/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>1471808
I make literally double what you do and I won the special olympics bronze medal of programming. It's not what you know, it's who you know. 10-20% raise coming up in the new market adjustments next week.

>>1471808
What do you sell?
In what language?
How long did it take?

>>1471808
I make $20 an hour plus tips as a mover,and i work when i want and don't have to learn anything.

I know Ruby, what can I make with ruby that earns money?

>>1471832

> Physical labor
> 2016

Inb4 robots

>>1471825

I don't like market saturation, but it has to do with privacy on the interwebs.

Backend is Python and user panel is php.

3 days front and back.

>>1471840
RoR bullshit of course

I make a dollar a minute for 8 hours a day

>>1471840

It's just a server side language, nothing you can really do with it as far as making a quick product and selling. It's like using Python for a front end. Why? That's the question.

>>1471846
Should I make applications using QtRuby or android apps with some framework? Or will the performance be shit compared to native?

>>1471847

Age?

>>1471808
How long have you been learning programming?

what's the BEST language to learn? I want to do web development & make scripts.

>going to college for a minor in cs
>actual computer classes just started today, yikes

>>1471897
I think Javascript, HTML, CSS, anyone else?

>>1471897
C++ or LISP

>>1471900
Don't be a dick, dude.

>>1471897

What >>1471898 said, and you should also learn Python, followed by Django. Alternatively you can learn Ruby followed by Ruby on Rails.

>>1471868

Going on 5 years.

>>1471897

Personally I'd recommend php and Python. VB.net doesn't hurt at all.

>>1471845
Python and PHP is easy I know full C++ and like 15 other languages. I'm pro at it but my AUTISM prevents me from making money with it. I do make money still from a video game I made 10 years ago and it still makes me 1500$ a month. But since then I haven't accomplished anything.

I'm the most scared pussy you ever met. I can't talk to anyone. That's why I'm poor despite my programming skills.

When I say scared, I mean I tremble when people talk to me, and I'm scared of my own parents and brothers despite living with them all my life.

>>1471944
>I do make money still from a video game I made 10 years ago and it still makes me 1500$ a month
What the fuck
What game was this

>>1471944
If anyone wants to know why I'm so scared it's because I was raised as a slave for the first 12 years of my life and beaten every day and forced to live in a chicken coop, wearing clothes 3 sizes too small. Til the FBI raided the complex with 20 cars, 3 helicopters and automatic rifles. The helicopters dropped cables and SWAT armored guys dropped down, and signaled us to come to them. Instead we ran into the woods out of fear. Later they found us anyway and took us away. This shit happens you know.

>>1471952
This game. http://www.byond.com/games/Lizard_Sphere_X/1

Although it looks like crap now, Super Nintendo level maybe, it used to be a big deal ten years ago. There was basically no such thing as Indie games back then and this game is Dragon Ball Z themed which hit its peak in popularity 10 years ago roughly.

It used to have 500 players at once but now its down to about 150. It used to make 3k a month but now 1.5k (I didn't property monetize it back then or it'd make more like 7k)

The game is basically a joke now I guess, but trust me back then it was pretty hype

>>1471845
So it's a standalone program? That is, you're making money off of purchases rather than ad revenue?

And what I meant by how long, was how many hours.

>>1471955
Were you part of an extreme Christian group? What led you to programming? Why do you still live with your family if they treated you like shit?

assuming i work 9-6 every day and have about 2-3 hours where i can study and practice programming after work, + weekends where i could technically spend 8+ hours a day learning.

how long would it take for me to learn enough python to automate a job that largely involves website clicking and transferring data from pdfs to excel spreadsheets? in addition to light webscraping and information gathering?

>>1472051
So Selenium plus, like three Python libraries?

If you have a single programming bone in your body, you could crank whatever the fuck out in a couple weeks.

>>1472059
fuck. i need to do something because work is fucking kicking my ass.

do you have a good place to start? something a bit more condensed than the MIT OCW course or is that honestly the best starting place?

>>1472060
https://docs.python.org/3/ + Googling "how do I do [X] in Python?"

>>1471944
>>1471955
>>1471958
>>1471961
A psychologist could really help you.

I'm a decent enough programmer, but have no good ideas and don't really know how to make gooeys. I have things like a twitter bot which maybe people would be interested in, but it needs to run of linux crontab right now.
Besides making websites how do you get inspiration?

>>1472075
The best business ideas solve problems. Problems for you or problems for other people.

Keep an open mind and open eyes, inspiration will come.

>>1471969

Yes a standalone.

38 or so.

>>1472075
Browse reddit and see what relevant shit people are bitching about.

>>1471808

graph looks like your viewership peaked in the first day and then declined to near zero in less than a month, followed by a 1 day spike (I assumed you advertised it on a Mongolian blowup doll forum or something). Sales have remained flat and you have grossed $49.50 to date.

Please explain how you are expecting this to generate $2,000/mo in the future (date?) and your reasoning behind valuing it at $30,000. Seems like a low number but I do not know how quick your income will decline once reaching $2,000/mo

>>1471808
what language(s) do you recommend?

>>1472117
English

>>1472111

Oh ya sorry.

I only sell on one forum. Like I said, I haven't advertised or added new products. Right now it only has one product that is direct to a certain kind of party. I plan to add another product that will open it to a larger targeted audience. As my audience isnt your average Joe or Facebook user as of now.

I want to make a simple image hosting site for experience and to see if I can make it successful. I can program from college but I've never done any web development. What should I start with could anybody say? Learn html or ruby or something? Broad answers very welcome and I appreciate any help ty

>>1472128

Please explain how you are expecting this to generate $2,000/mo in the future (date?) and your reasoning behind valuing it at $30,000. Seems like a low number but I do not know how quick your income will decline once reaching $2,000/mo

>>1471808
So does it go something like this?

> get into internet marketing and learn the ropes and learn a lot about what other internet marketers are doing and become active in the internet marketing community, learn its culture and how they go about doing their tasks.
> realize there are some tasks that internet marketers do that could be well served by a software solution, be it automated or whatever; or realize that a software product that internet marketers already use is shit and you could do a much better product.
> write the software
> you dont have to pay to advertise, just post it in the community you're already active in and a respected member
> profit

I was making 21 an hour plus commission at a fucking call centre. Programming really is a meme.

>>1471958
How the fuck do you make $1500/mo on a 10-year-old BYOND game?
I didn't even realize people still used BYOND for things besides SS13.

what a bunch of shitties in this thread

i along with most friends my year make >$20/hr after freshman year at internships, with some people making 30-40+ if they have lots of prior experience or are IOI/IMO..non-shit programmers from non-shit universities in engineering/math/cs are basically guarenteed >100k/year salaries with pretty lax hours after graduating

>>1472064

Basically this. You dont need to "know" everything, you don't have to BE the library, just use the already coded librarys and read their documentation. The rest is just your idea.

>>1472140
So you want to be like imgur? Youre gonna need lots of shekels to pay for servers and bandwidth if it scales

>>1472348

This.

How are you making dough off of Byond?

>>1472141

Cause' the products I'll be releasing shortly will generate that income. Generating income is simpler than you think. $2k will take about a year or two to achieve easy. And selling it for $30k, takes into account only 1 year into account.

$2k * 12 = $24k

An example right now is I'm about to be affiliated with the PokemonGo community. That within itself will give me a foundation of users of my product. It will also give me a good marketing base as well.

If you factor in about 38 hours of work total, with the $50 I'm generating a week without pushing advertisement - $2k is reachable without a doubt.

>>1472140
A friend of my brothers created one, post image and you got a link very simple. It was a hit with the slakhuset/new dawn sa:mp servers until the Chinese used it to host images for a porn site shutting him down. Hotlinking to pornsites is a problem you will likely face apparently.

>>1474703
the friend of your brothers is retarded. he could have blocked said chinese very easily.

the only ""big"" thing I've programmed failed hard. practically no one uses it.

>>1474742
Had they kept the same IP when uploading and not hotlinked then yes he could have, however, it was not that simple. Or maybe it was, I don't know, I am a c++ programmer not a web Dev. Iirc one thing about it was that they used an absurd amount of bandwidth and he could not afford it.

>>1471808
Yo I need a programmer for my site. What languages you know fag?

What is easier for making money? Programming for apps (java/swift) or web apps/software?

>>1475068
Whichever you can think of ideas for. Programming is easy, coming up with good ideas is the hard part.

>>1475051

You know, fag languages of course.

>>1473425
My opinion anon. Of course, pure speculation, but Pokémon Go won't be as popular in a year's like even if they release the new roster of Pokémon. LONG time friend still wants to work at a gamestop here in town. Period. Won't change. Doesn't want to. Anyways. He works there and always talks to the owner who obviously goes to gamestop conferences.. which talk about gamestop products. They have been having issues with the poke watch because it's purely not worth it considering the trend of its popularity. I forget where I saw it, but there's s chart somewhere that shows the drop off in usage of the average Pokémon go player and it's declining at an alarming rate. And then having to produce a watch that theoretically would sell well would seem like a good idea... so why are they holding off on pumping it out if it's so hot? I feel like the reason it is still alive is because they were releasing it in x amount of countries then y amount then in a possible final z amount of countries which only present new clients rather than keeping the ones that are around playing.... not sure anon. I agree if you get it to 2k a month. Sell it the first moment you find a buyer of 30k. That's a time bomb waiting for the flop explosion.

I'm a bioinformatics researcher in the summer, so I make a whopping $4k a year. I need to get more into programming. Is there a big market for R packages? I'm writing a publication on comparative analysis with different RNA-seq tools and a corresponding package that will perform the comparison much more efficiently.

>>1472060
>>1472051
> break down the task into steps
> find out the functions needed to do each step
> automate the steps, automate the task

>>1476873
Nigger nig, you can't pay for something in CRAN. People smarter than you write better libraries just to help people because they're not Jews.

>>1472051
I took the code academy course over like two days. It's a good way to get the basics down.

>>1476896
haha, that's what I was wondering. A lot of my code was just optimizing other packages anyway.

>>1476904
> Publish libraries for free like real nigga, contribute to community
> Work on projects you want to work on
> Build relationships, network, make cool stuff
> Have portfolio of projects you have finished / worked on, self-taught, etc etc
> You are optimal candidate for whatever job you want, dev job as fallback

>>1472075

You still there anon ? I'm pulling up a network of porn sites which all cross-polinate by promoting eachother (they are all different niches) on social media sites.

The problem I have: How to write tons of tweets that are niche-specific, and then get them queued on socialpilot/hootsuite.

I'm currently researching how to learn programming in order to create a script that poops out say 10 tweets that basically say the same thing but randomly replace certain words.

For instance 'Wow I didn't know XX come in the shape of YY, ZZ!
and then randomly for XX the script inserts (tits, asses, cocks, etc) for YY it inserts a fruit or smth, and for ZZ it inserts something like 'holy omly!'

just stupid shit to populate social media platforms with, but I need to avoid it being repetitive.

Can anyone help me? Should I hire or learn? I'm more interested ni learning.

>>1476969
have you looked into hiring someone from Fivver to write out hundreds of tweets for you?

I am a programmer but I've never made money with it. No local market and find online work.

>>1476969
This is kiddie bullshit. I literally have this script already from years ago. Mind you Twitter has a tweet limit but it's very generous given the nature of the platform (something like 1,000 a day, 100 an hour).

>>1477038
and can't find online work*

>>1476969
There's programs out there that literally do this for the marketing/SEO people.

Fuck, I could probably make such a thing right now to shit out tweets in a way that you could feed into your twitter bot or whatever.

Getting paid $50/hour straight out of undergrad for programming shit as a contractor.

Got offered full time, but I can't commit to that since I need to prepare to register for med school.

>>1477032

Honestly I don't think they would do a good job. I need the tweets to be somewhat intelligent. Before hiring some pajeet I'd do it myself

>>1477047

yeah i figured this would be very easy. iodeal to get my feet wet! where to learn though, lol. codeacademy?

>>1477058

that's the main challenge for me. I need to figure out a good way to put the tweets into my marketing service thing. copy pasting every tweet individually would take too long. this is really just worth doing if you can automate it entirely and in a way that is robust and stable.

is it possible to connect the tweet-creation script to a website so that it queues the tweets into hootsuite for me?

>>1471955

>>1477074
l2api

https://dev.twitter.com/rest/reference/post/statuses/update

>>1477074
Why are you so dumb?
>write PHP page for your own website that tweets whatever you tell it to, super easy. the php script does all the legwork, when you visit your.site/shit.php?tweet=dicks the page will tweet "dicks" on your account. So you just plug in whatever from that side.
Google Apps Script lets you schedule your JS script to execute every here and there. In JS script assemble your random selection of phrases and the program tweets one at random, by sending a request to your php script. Google handles all the costs, you can get a shitty ass website / server for free (I use 000webhost), $0 cost. Zero. Dollar. Cost. There is a Twitter bot I made to make fun of my girlfriend's ex-boyfriend that has his face and tweets dumb shit every hour, has for months. Too lazy to turn it off.

>>1477074
So just to clarify, you have a Twitter bot running and tweeting every x timeframe for $0 down, because you have two constantly running servers that cost you nothing. And you learn some shit.

>>1471808
>$20 an hour
>41k a year @ 40/wk
>kek