/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>14640913
sell and buy confido

>this is how OP spends his time

>>14640913
Fuck panic sold it all

>>14640946
Ad hominem instead of attacking the legitimate concerns, classic faggots

>>14640913
I keep telling people this, and they don't believe me. It will go to $20-30 this year, but anything above that is a big risk. LINK has inherent limitations, especially in cross-chain technology--which will be the next thing, and LINK will not be the prime movers on it.

>>14640913
wtf I bought a lot of these things but I have no clue what any of this means. I don't even know how to read code, I wax floors for a living. Is all this true? should I sell??

>>14640913
thanks just sold 100k

>>14640977
LINK is in FOMO territory now, and will moon still. But like many other projects, it will correct.

>>14640913
you smell of redit and are looking for a handout so you can buy you little shit stack lol

>still fudding chainlink
Not gonna make it

>>14640913
Yeah it's a terrible project.
Make sure you sell your whole stacks (if you have any.)
Also you can use the filter system on this sub to filter out a whole bunch of stuff. I'd recommend things like "linky" "chainlink" "sergey" etc. It stops you from being overloaded with this shit so that we can focus on the discussion of projects with an actual future like nano and vechain.

>>14640913
wtf just sold 100k thanks

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>>14640960
Do you have any suggestions for what I should diversify my stink stack with?

Amoveo oracle design is much better

The OP's point still stands. How will Link solve sybil attack in decentralized node?

>>14640957
I didn't even use an ad hominem you stupid faggot, go flaunt your nigger brains somewhere else you objective subhuman shitskin

>>14641066
TEE

>>14640913
>Trusting some literallywho NEET's node over the provider themselves

>>14640913
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>>14640913
the worst part of the whitepaper was its assertion that trusted hardware from fucking intel will solve these issues.

The entire whitepaper, is baffle with bullshit, vague your way through it, and footnote the important parts, and then don't explain the apparent masterful solution in the very footnote that is supposed to provide the solution to oracles.

linkies. I commend you on your pump. its gone above and beyond everyone's expectations. it could even go further, just so long as this bullshit is in development and your meme power saturates this board.

but don't think for a second you've invested your monies into something that will work.

it utter vapoware to the core. so please, take profit, and at least recover your initial investment. then just ride the train if you want to play this retarded game.

but i promise you, those unrealized profits will burn your fucking mind clean of all your delusions when this thing goes back to top 200.

so take profit, cash out at least your initial investment x2 to retain some sanity when this thing inevitably implodes

>>14641051
>google
>oracle
>swift
I know you own link and I hope you sell early and kys you subhuman attention seeking discord tranny

now go dilate

linkies on suicide watch

>>14641066

They’ve discussed this. Extreme valuation of the token will make a Sybil attack threat essentially void. You couldn’t gather enough LINK under a common banner to do it, and even if you could the amount of money you’d have to risk to do it would be insane already there’s no reason for you to try to scam a contract.

$1000 is fud, literally.

How can you morally justify profit of a scam in the course of your lifetime? Just because others did it is not a valid argument?

>make a token that incentivises "decentralized oracles", hence, decentralised data collection
>the data collection still has to come from a centralised API
>introducing a method to make data aggregation "trustless" when the initial data isn't even trustless at all and can never be trustless no matter the aggregation process
>/biz/ thinks banks and enterprises won't spot this circle-logic retardation in one glance at the whitepaper

It's fucking hopeless at this point.

>>14641066
If the team can't answer this question I don't believe some random anon on a mongolian basket weaving forum could do that.

>>14640913

now you go dilate and shit in a street

>>14640960

You're funny Anon. Actually really funny, made me laugh, thanks.
> t will go to $20-30 this year, but anything above that is a big risk.

The big risk is investing. Not how much money it might bring, if successful.

>>14641124
oof except it's already been answered here - https://www.reddit.com/r/LINKTrader/comments/8x553t/attack_by_nodes_security_of_using_cl/

you should already be aware of this information though since you come from rebbit

it's kind of funny how no one has read the whitepaper despite thousands here being in the cult. This is answered within the first three pages.
Data is provided in a commit-reveal process so that oracles can't cheat by copying other oracles to get free money. The "truth" is defined by the creator of the contract, and LINK provides some default aggregating functions. It could be a simple "yes no" response, or averaging the numerical responses of the oracles
I believe the oracles are chosen at random, so you would need to own a something like 30% of the nodes to even have a small chance of rigging the answer. for corrupting 4/5 oracles that's .3 * .3 *.3 *.3 = 0.8% Given there is a reward there will be more people competing for oracles and you're not going to corrupt them all.
also, at the end of the day of all the oracles coordinate to give fake data, people stop querying chain link because it doesn't work, and the golden goose disappears.

the responses are signed using public key cryptography, so you have immutable proof that an oracle gave a faulty answer, so their reputation score lowers. I assume that also lowers their chances of being picked.
t. nolinker

https://github.com/zack-bitcoin/amoveo/blob/master/docs/other_blockchains/chainlink.md

>>14640913
its 2019 and swingies still use the its a scam card

>>14641117
This. The data has to come from a centralized source

>>14640913
All in brapper

>>14641066
I already know how link posters will answer this.

They will claim that it will use proof of stake and a collateral. The only problem with this answer is that a real proof of stake design require a way to do decentralized randomness to choose a random node, which is very complex (don't think it's ever been done anywhere) and not explained how they would do it in the white paper. There's also a multitude of unanswered questions like who decides what's valid data, what's the penalty, where all this state is stored, is it on Ethereum? Is it on some "Chainlink blockchain"? What happens with the 65% owned by the team, wouldn't they have absolute power in a PoS system? The white paper is purposefully vague in an attempt to deceive.

They might also mention TEEs, which really do nothing to fight sybil attacks or contribute to the actual decentralization.

>>14640913
That vitamin c bit made me kek

>>14640957
you had two years incel

>>14641173
>>14641173
>it's kind of funny how no one has read the whitepaper despite thousands here being in the cult. This is answered within the first three pages.
>Data is provided in a commit-reveal process so that oracles can't cheat by copying other oracles to get free money. The "truth" is defined by the creator of the contract, and LINK provides some default aggregating functions. It could be a simple "yes no" response, or averaging the numerical responses of the oracles
>I believe the oracles are chosen at random, so you would need to own a something like 30% of the nodes to even have a small chance of rigging the answer. for corrupting 4/5 oracles that's .3 * .3 *.3 *.3 = 0.8% Given there is a reward there will be more people competing for oracles and you're not going to corrupt them all.
>also, at the end of the day of all the oracles coordinate to give fake data, people stop querying chain link because it doesn't work, and the golden goose disappears.
There's many problems with your answer. How are they gonna do decentralized randomness? That's an entire problem in itself. How are they gonna prevent people from creating infinite amount of nodes? If it's by staking, what's preventing me from having more stake and stealing your collateral? The mere fact that these questions are still unanswered 2 years after raising $32mil makes Chainlink a proven scam.

>>14641092

To be fair, Bitcoin was all vague too in the beginning.

Not shilling for Link here.
It must and will fall as of a few hours ago.

It will be able to make a bit of money again though, I think.

Just the illusionary 100x 1000x these kids dream of

2 years you guys had, and you guys are still sitting on the sidelines, listen here you uneducated fool, we are never ever fucking selling do you hear me ? now go wagie wagie in your cagie cagie

>>14640913
Just buy a grip of EVE and throw it in cold storage for 6 months. unironically only need 100k tokens to make it.

>>14641302

You are selling already

As are Chainlink themselves

>>14641173
That sounds very expensive. If you are going to do that level of verification, why not provide a cryptographic proof of the validity of the data at the source. Say my dentist sends my dental records to a smart contract, my dentist should then use her private key to verify that the data is correct. That would be much cheaper than sending the data to 10 different oracles that would all want to get paid in LINK, and that would compare the result among themselves.

>>14641099
that's a nice house of cards system anon
wonder who of the giant node clusters will get weak hands first

>>14641301
I'm not sure if you're purposefully lying but this is not true. The bitcoin whitepaper explains every non obvious concepts needed to created bitcoin https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf . So did the ethereum yellow paper.

The Chainlink whitepaper is vague in order to deceive.

>>14640913
this is the most stupid FUD i ever read since two years(im a 100% all in linky since si os 2017) im also a software enngineer and been doing ut for 10 years.

this FUD makes no sense, because you are implying no source can be truzted. as in imagine i use a google API for geohashing and google just lies on the data and gives me fake data. how in the world am i going to verify that google lied? ohh yeah let me guess your answer, you're gonna say ohh i'll just query another geohashing service and verify googles answer... oh? really? what are the chances that the api you are using to validate is more trustable than google? well guess what? this fud is just that FUD to try to create fear in the inveztors, iin the real world the data providers selected by the smart contracts are written i. the terms of the contract. the client will HAVE to accept those terms. if a smart contract uses 3 nodes that are trustable youll just have less chances that the 3 nodes will lie than use 1 source of data you dumb fuck. the more sources you use (the more nodes) the more security you get.

>>14641302

Basically, it goes down till tomorrow and then at I don't know, maybe 2 dollars, it will pick up again till 5 dollars. And then the whole thing starts over again Anon.

If you want to become a multi millionaire by investing 10 dollars, you will dream on for a long time, I'm afraid.

>>14641416

Yes? Does that mean it can't make money?

For fucks sake Phillip Morris makes money

>>14641418
Then why have the middle man? They’d just use the API

>>14641449
you cant, imagine that the geohashing api gets its signature updated or the format of the response changes or the server hosting the api moves. you cant hard write the url of the api in the smart contract, the smart contract is immutable. you need a third party that xill migrate to the new server or process the new data format.

>>14641418
>iin the real world the data providers selected by the smart contracts are written i. the terms of the contract. the client will HAVE to accept those terms. if a smart contract uses 3 nodes
I'm not sure if you realize but the design you've just described is not decentralized. It's just a normal centralized oracle. Except there's 3 and you average them out. It's also extremely trivial to implement as a developer. I could do it in maybe 50 lines of code. Why would I use Chainlink? How is this not a scam that a project has $4bil valuation for this?

>>14640960
what do you think of hypercash/hxchange

>>14641416

Look at it this way: even if it was built to create highs and lows and make some kids money like from 29c to 3,5 $
Why not be smarter about it and let it run?

>>14640913
Problem here is you assume crypto isn't all about scamming. The space is entirely digital rent seekers looking for nothing more than to pump their bags. Even some of the more "promising" projects have coins that are in fact completely useless

>>14641416
why the fuck does blockchain tech need to be transparent?
which fucking industry is transparent on the solutions it provides?
wtf boy

>>14641472
>e format of the response changes or the server hosting the api moves. you cant hard write the url of the api in the smart contract, the smart contract is immutable. you need a third party that xill migrate to the new server or process the new data format.
Why can't the API operator run his own oracle to do this?

>>14641280
>infinite number of nodes
nodes require staking link, which is finite
>randomness
first your node has to satisfy the contract also reputation plays a part, and if you never provide the right answer, it doesn't matter how many nodes you have, none of them will receive jobs. decentralized randomness is not so hard as you think, it can be coded in the contract.
>That sounds very expensive
public key cryptography is free, and should only take less than a milisecond for signing.
> my dentist should then use her private key to verify that the data is correct.
If the oracle signed the data, that is proof that the data is from that oracle. what you're talking about is not a good usecase of link because the data can only be from one source. Link is better suited for derivatives gambling. What is the price of LINK at Jan 1 2020? Link can not be used to make private orgs give up private data.

>>14641563
Thats exactly what they'll be doing, retard. They'll be selling their data that gets requested via smart contracts for stinky linkies.

>>14641556

Why even go blockchain with that argument? Look broader. Google definitely are completely transparent, as we all know XD

>>14641500
>except there are 3 and you averafe them
yes thats how a decentralized node network works. the 3 or 50 nodes or 1000 nodes you query are completely unrelated entities.

>>14641556
>why the fuck does blockchain tech need to be transparent?
Because all legit projects have been transparent so far. Because this is academic level shit that requires peer reviews. If you're not transparent, you're scamming. There's no excuse. Simple as that.

>>14641280
>How are they gonna do decentralized randomness?
With an RNG.
>How are they gonna prevent people from creating infinite amount of nodes?
Nodes are hardware and not software.
>If it's by staking, what's preventing me from having more stake and stealing your collateral?
Nothing but you only do that by being right 100% of the time, thereby fulfilling Chainlink's goal of nodes being incentivized to do the right thing.

Ah Chainlink. The Enron and Pets.com of crypto.

>>14641563
the you are not decentralized and you are not trustless. because the contractor would have to trust the company histing his smart contract. you would lose the whole purpose of trustless decentralization brought by blockchain. at this point just use a database annd write your contract with jjava code thats enough, no need to sell to your clients that you are using the blockchain

>>14641629

But muh Google! They've never been transparent. Yet wouldn't you fucker like to hold 1 percent of their shares?

>>14641191
>who decides what’s valid data
Majority consensus
>what’s the penalty?
Loss of reputation
>where all this state is stored
?? Don’t understand the question
>is it on ethereum
Blockchain agnostic. Using eth is temporary for now
>is it on some Chainlink blockchain?
Blockchain agnostic it can be used on any blockchain existing or to be created.
>what happens with the 65%? Wouldn’t they have absolute power?
Nodes are chosen randomly. It’s not always going to choose their nodes.
It’s not purposefully vague you just have to be smart reading it.

>>14641571
so where is the design for all this? You're being just as vague as the whitepaper. You need to understand that there's infinite amount of possible flaws for this design you're talking about. No specs = the team is scamming.

I really don't have time to argue about vague theoretical designs. Show me specs, and we will tell you if there are flaws or not. Show me no specs after 2 years, and we know you are a scammer.

>>14641646
Exactly, it seems like it just adds an unnecessary middle man. If the enterprise itself is running the node, how does this add an extra layer of trust

>>14641646
So Chainlink is really for cases where you're getting the same data from multiple API sources?

>>14641640
You cannot use RNG to do decentralized randomness. Again, show me specs, or the team is scamming. There's no point in arguing about high level vague design. This is exactly why Chainlink is a scam.

2 years + 32 mils + no specs = scam

>>14641685
That would be redundant though .. if you were gathering the same data from multiple APIs that would be just as trustless as LINKs proposed function

I actually tried to tell you all this 3 nights ago, when I was sitting here drunk as fuck. Nobody listened.
I'm sure it is in 4chan's storage now.

Chainlink is not a lost thing though. It will keep generating money, as I said. Just not the wonder pill make me a billionaire type.

>>14641104
I don't, pussy.

>>14641660
>>who decides what’s valid data
>Majority consensus
Means literally nothing. Just as unspecific as the scam white paper.
>>what’s the penalty?
>Loss of reputation
Means literally nothing. Just as unspecific as the scam white paper.
>>where all this state is stored
>?? Don’t understand the question
>>is it on ethereum
>Blockchain agnostic. Using eth is temporary for now
Means literally nothing. Just as unspecific as the scam white paper.
>>is it on some Chainlink blockchain?
>Blockchain agnostic it can be used on any blockchain existing or to be created.
>>what happens with the 65%? Wouldn’t they have absolute power?
Means literally nothing. Just as unspecific as the scam white paper.
>Nodes are chosen randomly. It’s not always going to choose their nodes.
Means literally nothing. Just as unspecific as the scam white paper.
>It’s not purposefully vague you just have to be smart reading it.

You are a literal retard my friend. It seems specific to you because you're not a programmer.

How do you think programs are made?

int consensus = "majority"

BOOM. WE'VE SOLVED IT GUYS

You are a literal retard and have no business talking about software.

>>14641740
Price predictions? Say, by EOY 2020?

>>14641777
What are you invested in friend

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>>14641629
This. Bunch of 4channers tried to force it as /ourcoin/, during the presale ico phase of chainlink there was a minimum requirement of 300eth to enter the presale. Bunch of anons pooled up together and shared presale links to fill them with their eth. Coin continued to get shilled and pumped up and hyped for the sibios event that link was attended, whole event turned out to be a flop chainlink had a presentation in a room of like 18 people next to the public toilets, literally no news or partnership came from the event and the coin dumped back to below ico prices and created 1000's of bagholder anons. Now during this alt bull run lots of anons and took advantage of this and shilling this coin to all the new money and newfags that joined in december and don't know this story. The coin is HEAVILY manipulated and the supply is dried up from huge whales who accumulated below ICO price to create a artificially lower supply (a lot like REQ) and these people have so much room to dump on all of you faggots to still be in profit when the time comes. In regards to actual project that chainlink aiming to achieve it's nothing more than a basic json parser for smart contracts, would take like a day to add to ethereum by itself.. literally making links whole concept pointless and definitely no need for a token. Would take a lot longer to get it working with bitcoin but the bitcoin core devs would be able to work out the solution a lot quicker than chainlink will, think that's something worth noting that literally nothing is completed and you're literally just buying a whitepaper, they have only 2 developers and they don't communicate at all with no proven background on either, in fact sergey was involved in a project before chainlink called NxT that he since been abandoned until it was took over by a new developer team

>>14641670
there's nothing vague about what I said, you're just a retard. it's pretty clear you didn't even read it if you have basic questions like this.

>>14641571
So Chainlink is a network for data validation and aggregation, like a data repository that different blockchains could use. I could see that being useful, but perhaps, as the complexity that smart contracts is able to perform increases, data could be sent directly to smart contracts and aggregated within the smart contract, and the logic of the smart contract could solve the correctness, so that people would not have to pay the Chainlink network. But yeah, it is probably easier to just connect to chainlink for now.

>>14641678
unecessary middle man? no, you are literally implying that the blockchain is useless and legacy systems is the way to go retard stop acting like you are actually trying to be relevent when youre just fudding

>>14641779

It is hard to predict. But I'd say it will keep going back and forth between 2 and 5 or even 6 dollars, which is a huge win span anyway if you compare it to traditional, safe and sound stock.

It amazes me that people believe in the idea of winning the lottery, just because it happened once.

Rather look at it this way: continuously keep winning the small lottery

>>14641191
>a way to do decentralized randomness to choose a random node, which is very complex
Like using an oracle network with TEEs on each node to generate random numbers according to your favorite random number algs and then aggregating the results? kek

>>14641804

DO NO INCLUDE ME M8

I NEVER FORCED IT ON ANYONE

In fact, I always was critical

>>14641777
What’s your question here? Yeah consensus means the majority but you still have to get the value for it, which is what Chainlink is going to do.

>>14641615
>yes thats how a decentralized node network works. the 3 or 50 nodes or 1000 nodes you query are completely unrelated entities.
OK but that's completely useless. How do I know which oracles are reputable? How do I know which oracle is "Google"? Because they've KYCed with Chainlink? How is that decentralized? What if Google decide to cuck me and my contract? Who decides what's valid data? How do I get Google's collateral if they cuck me? What if they have more LINK than me?

This is not decentralized or well designed at all.

>>14641804
Doing God's work anon

>>14641777
Your response
Means literally nothing.
You're not making counter arguments here.

>>14641685
no, chainlink is just necessary for smart contracts to function. if a company doesnt want to use blockchain they can write their own code and maintain it and sell to their clients that they are the ones that define what the contract doesi dont have a problem with that. but if a company wants to automate processes and contracts using the blockchain, then they will HAVE. to use chainlink.

chainlink is a necessity

>>14641892
thats why chainlink has a reputation system. refer to the whitepapet

>>14641877
>unironically responding to 2 year old pasta
how fucking new are you?

>>14641864
>>a way to do decentralized randomness to choose a random node, which is very complex
>Like using an oracle network with TEEs on each node to generate random numbers according to your favorite random number algs and then aggregating the results? kek
That again, is some vague bullshit. Where are the specs? I don't really care about your vague ass theories. Where's the proof that TEEs can do decentralized randomness? I highly doubt that it's true. You just pulled that shit out of your ass, just like Chainlink did with their white paper.

And it will keep making money.

Just hate to see these kids here thinking they will be rich because of it. That is not so.

>>14641910
So Chainlink will provide decentralized AND centralized oracles then?

>>14641934

I didn't even read it (you would have noticed that looking at timestamp) just saw you including me/my posts

>>14641825
for data that is publicly owned, there is an incentive to give incorrect data.
that is the problem link is designed to solve through crowd sourcing.
if your smart contract's data has no off chain data that needs tamper protection, you don't need link

but if you're executing derivatives payouts based on smart contracts... you want protection

>>14641887
If you think "majority" is an acceptable consensus algorithm, there's really no point in talking to you kek. You're basically a monkey

>>14641892
Huh, I actually don’t know the answers to these. Some of them I do, like if Google tries to cuck you then it loses its LINK. it doesn’t matter if Google has more LINK than you, you’re paying other nodes to verify your data. So let’s say both of you only pay $3 worth of Link to assure the validity of the contract. It doesn’t matter if Google has $300,000 worth of LINK since both of you are only paying a small price for the contract. And the result doesn’t always choose googles nodes since it is random.
I don’t know the answers to your first few questions but I imagine that’s why the white paper is vague, if they don’t have the answers yet but they have a general idea of the solution. I imagine that’s why it’s taking 2 years, they’re trying to find solutions to your questions, not because they’re dodging them and being scammy.

>>14641777
>majority consensus means literally nothing and is unspecific
Yeah it's called a blockchain m8. Please learn the concept first.

Good effort though. Also appreciate the autistic coding purist touch, take it to /g/ and you'll be treated as a demigod there.

>>14641191
>Lottery & Randomness - Many applications need randomness to facilitate some type of action, such as lotteries and game shows. Chainlink oracles can provide Dapps with reliable and tamperproof ways to connect with software that simulates pure randomness. Using multiple oracles, multiple randomness sources, or trusted hardware, Dapps can leverage some of the most secure sources of randomness possible. Chainlink already provides an external adaptor for obtain randomness through the Random.org web API.

>>14641931
>thats why chainlink has a reputation system. refer to the whitepapet
The reputation system described is not decentralized or sybil resistant. So to use their "decentralized" oracles I need to use their centralized reputation? How is that decentralized?

>>14640913
I see the discord trannies are at it again

>>14642010
There’s no need for name calling m8 I’m trying to learn too from other responses and your questions. I think consensus as majority is a bretty good solution, there’s no way an attacker has enough resources to cover 51% of nodes.

>>14642068
>>Lottery & Randomness - Many applications need randomness to facilitate some type of action, such as lotteries and game shows. Chainlink oracles can provide Dapps with reliable and tamperproof ways to connect with software that simulates pure randomness. Using multiple oracles, multiple randomness sources, or trusted hardware, Dapps can leverage some of the most secure sources of randomness possible. Chainlink already provides an external adaptor for obtain randomness through the Random.org web API.
dude you are a literal moron. You're talking about using some centralized API random number generator to VALIDATE the data in the network. Are you fucking kidding me? How is that DECENTRALIZED randomness?

You're basically saying, Chainlink will use its own decentralized data to validate its own randomness, but the data needs randomness to validate itself.

Holy shit the fucking state of retarded link holders.

>>14641955
it literally isnt vague, youre just too stupid to understand it, go back t.o reddit you retarded fucking mongoloid, as least your semi-smart sounding words will get rid of the weak reddit hands ITT

But look, what speaks against making 4 dollars out of 40 cents?
It is more than Apple, Coca Cola, Bayer et al will give you.
I guess what I am trying to say is: be happy to make a quick buck, and that your gamble paid off.
If you expected to become a billionaire, I have news for you that will hold true for the rest of your life: You won't.

>>14640913
Have you seen how rich people get from scams in this space? How can you not invest in the most elaborate scam in the space. We hold until LINK gets shilled to the masses and then dump of course.

>>14641804
topkek

>>14642100
lmao you asked me earlier how would you know a node reputation and i answered your question, now you went back to the original statement.
your just fudding your not trying to get anzwers

>>14642192

Rich people are too scared of this shit to put in more than small change for fun.

>>14642165
IT IS VAGUE. You're just too dumb to know. This is what acceptable specs look like https://ethereum.github.io/yellowpaper/paper.pdf

To you, a non programmer, some vague high level ideas are specific. And this is why Chainlink can scam low IQ retards like yourself.

You can basically pretend that any kind of technology will work with vague ideas. (What Chainlink is doing) But real computer science has limitations. A design cannot be vague, it must be specific, especially when you're claiming to do something revolutionary like decentralized oracles.

Damn, best chainlink fud thread I've ever seen. Buy RLC under 40 cents

>>14640913
>There is no validation, there is absolutely nothing on chain to validate or verify this data and there is no plan to ever have that
Lol dude, I mean this FUD is actually really good for the redditors who fomo'd in and didnt read the whitepaper but if you actually read it, you understand this is complete nonsense, the entire point of having decentralized oracles is to verify that data. If your goal was to shake redditor hands I commend you.

>>14642192
Apparently there are some people in it for the tech. Which is just cope desu

>>14642216
Your answer is a non answer. Your answer confirms my point that Chainlink is a centralized scam. Pure vaporware. It requires centralized reputation to do anything.

>>14641955
>TEEs can do decentralized randomness
That's not the claim, but we all know your game is to dispute things that haven't been said so that you can mime incredulousness and string along a misleading conversation.
TEEs don't affect decentralization, they increase tamper resistance of executed code and its outputs. The number of nodes reporting outputs to be aggregated is what affects decentralization.

>>14642265
How is this data being verified decentrally? (hint: it's not)

>>14641117
>the data collection still has to come from a centralised API
Gee, it's almost like the weather in Minnesota is centralized to Minnesota.

>>14641178
No fucking shit. see>>14642313

>>14640913
Ummm then why did google work with them faggots?

But you know what? Tomorrow, the day after or in 3 days, when Chainlink is under 2 dollars yet again, people will buy again. And it will go up again. It is one of those things.
You can earn a bit of money with it.

>>14642365
to promote their cloud services. They release hundreds of blog post per year to promote their services. This was one of those hundreds. Same with oracle

>>14642365

Because they liked the non-transparency of course ;)

>>14641892
>How do I know which oracles are reputable?
you dont have to, because the oracle nodes are penalized for giving non reputable answers

>>14642100
>just call it centralized and it will be true
not an argument

>>14642365
>People in positions of power never abuse that power to make money

>>14642063
>I don’t know the answers to your first few questions
the same answer to the one you answered first
>I imagine that’s why it’s taking 2 years, they’re trying to find solutions to your questions
holy fuck you are dumb, the whitepaper answered all these questions, theyre taking two years to actually implement the idea you mong

I'm never fucking selling.

>>14642281
the reputation system is not centralized, there will be many reputation services ran by third parties linkpool is one of them. others will come. thomas confirmed that they will support multiple reputation providers for a smaart contract

>>14642164
>Holy shit the fucking state of retarded link holders

/thead

>>14642509
nope, they don't answer them. They just hint at possible solution without actually talking about the specific design of them (because they are scammers).

>>14642516

Then I hope you used only money that really doesn't hurt you if lost

>>14642164
the article from which that was quoting was showing one specific example of a good API, how can you be this much of a drooling retard to think references to a specific website like random.org will be hard coded into it? youve had a good run buddy, just give it up already, youre only fooling the people who shouldnt be here

>>14642516
same. Why the fuck is /biz/ so shit on sunday

>>14642537
>>14642537
>the reputation system is not centralized, there will be many reputation services ran by third parties linkpool is one of them. others will come. thomas confirmed that they will support multiple reputation providers for a smaart contract
That is literally the definition of centralized. Having 2-3 or even 10 centralized options isn't decentralized. They can all censor you easily.

>>14642250
only someone who does not understand programming or is intentionally FUDding in his free time would call abstract theories vague. I understand 2 programming languages. Anyway I have to go, wow I'm surprised this tier of fud is actually back on /biz/, makes it worth visiting again

>>14642583
look we know you're hurt because you missed out on the 20x but it's just embarrassing now. Get over it faggot.

>>14642573
>as quoting was showing one specific example of a good API, how can you be this much of a drooling retard to think references to a specific website like random.org will be hard coded into it? youve had a good run buddy, just give it up already, youre only fooling the people who shouldnt be here
Dude, you're literally talking about shit you have no CLUE about.

You're talking about using chainlink's oracle to rng its own oracles. But how do the randomness oracles get their own rng? They git it to themselves? That's fucking retarded. You shouldn't fucking talk about what you don't know retard.

As soon as it hits 2 dollars again, I will go in myself, which I have never done before. And even I will only use a few thousand. Money that doesn't hurt.
That's the key.

And when I see these shills here on 4chan advising to take loans, sell everything, put everything you have in a single crypto trap... seriously guys? That is bad advice to your fellow anons

>>14642281

>>14642616
This is technical specifications: https://ethereum.github.io/yellowpaper/paper.pdf

The Chainlink whitepaper describes literally nothing about how they plan on implementing anything. You are a retard and don't know shit.

>>14642164
You are doing the god's work here anon. I know how frustrating it can be. I had some fun with Vechain bagholders a year ago, the responses were exactly the same as you get now. I guess stupid money never learns.

BTW you are only talking about technical perspective. Which is pretty important as the devil's in the details. I am still trying to get my head around the economics of this token. Cult members say it is gonna save a lot of money for companies but never tell how it's going to happen in reality.

I think this shitcoin has some pretty good FOMO moments in future but eventually it is gonna have the same fate than hundreds of other shitcoins that fell into oblivion. But it's gonna take some time because
>The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent

>>14640913
>22 posts
go have sex

>>14642305
not spoonfeeding you or the redditors reading

>>14642509
It’s been a minute since I’ve read it
Also just finished reading the reddit post where a CL team member answers the sybil attack question.
After reading what he says about reputation, it seems OP has a point. They’re suggesting that they’ll use a third party reputation evaluator? If I got that correct? That would be centralized wouldn’t it?

>>14642622
>chainlink's oracle
everybody point and laugh

>>14642677
already answered that question elsewhere in the thread. sell all your link, you dont deserve it. goodbye yall, have fun missing out

>>14642650

>>14641387
>guaranteed passive income
>selling ever

made me chuckle

>>14642700
No you didn't. You claimed that have several centralized services make it decentralized. It doesn't. Even if there were 10, they could all collude to censor you. Plus there's never 10. It always ends up being 1. The big ones kill the small.

>>14642631
Cringe

>>14642705
>no one responds
>26 posts
:(

>>14642736
i just followed all your 25 posts and not a single one of them makes sense, you just keep coping and seething all over your keyboard. maybe have sex?

>>14642789

Haha ^^ I remember u faggot. Explain cringe

>>14642818
and every retard who actually replied got BTFO

>>14642736
If the reputation provider keeps recommending faulty nodes, it would lose its reputation too. Meta-reputation kek. But seriously after a couple of jobs anyone can see the nodes it pushes would be faulty and stop using the nodes they recommend.

>>14642831
It doesn't make sense to you because you're too low IQ to understand. Too bad, you're gonna get rekt later

>>14642859
My point isnt that centralized reputation wouldn't work. My point is that it's CENTRALIZED. Why are centralized oracles worth $4bil? They're not.

>>14642736
based fuckin anon destroyed whole fuckin board. Just look at those shills running.

What do you think the ratio of actual shills, who are not complitely retarded and know what they are doing - trying to scam other people in to buying this shit to actual decieved retards?

>>14642836
>seriously guys? That is bad advice to your fellow anons
This statement within a chainlink thread on a Siberian bird watching forum.

>>14642915

Oh well, I do have a soft heart.... sometimes

>>14642892
>28 posts by this ID
You've invested an awful lot of attention in this scam, kek.

>>14642892
Isn’t the decentralization part reserved for just verifying data from the oracles is accurate? And whether or not the reputation providers is centralized or decentralized is another question, but not relevant to what Chainlink is trying to provide with its decentralized solution. You could keep going with “Well but this part is centralized” all the way down to, “Chainlink can’t be trusted because it’s an idea from one guy which makes it centralized. Sergey must be decentralized.”

>>14642915

And keep watching birds friend

>>14641094
The battle cry of the deluded linkie. Nigger none of those companies are touching your shitcoin with its unfinished whitepaper. Sergey has never delivered a working product before, he walked away from two old ones the guy is a fucking seasoned vapourware salesman. How can you have before you, the man’s history, a shitcoin ERC token that doesn’t even do anything, a joke whitepaper which has no technical information on how to get decentralized oracles working, an illegal ICO which has already burned through 32 million dollars in 2 years, as shown by the need to actually SELL LINK from dev wallets to pay wages. What the fuck more do you need to know?

Linkies are truly the dumbest fucking NPCs in existence here. If you make the same thread and have a few pajeets reply to it for a year they’ll believe anything you say. You people will believe anything at all, because you lack the skills to investigate claims, because none of you know anything about tech.

Sergey is a low energy walrus fuck and I’ll punch him in his faggot face if I ever see him for spamming my board with his shitcoin.

>>14640957
>legitimate concerns

>>14643012
If it’s a scam why would they sell their own stuff to hire more developers? Wouldn’t they have just disappeared with our money instead?

I'm scared anons. I've bet a lot on link.

>>14642863
i took my initial investment out already, all my links are now "free" could care less if goes to $1000 of zero. cope harder mr. low iq fudder

>>14643012
>lie in every sentence
impressed to be frank

>>14643051
Fret not fren, it's just fud. Infuriating because it tries to talk over your head, but to those that understand it it's just retardedly wrong.

>>14642959
No. If you cannot choose the oracle decentrally (without decentralized reputation), then all you have are centralized oracles, which has no real value because it's so easy to make yourself and doesn't require the LINK token.

>>14640957
You can ad hominem my nuts, faggot.

>>14643043
<actually believing this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPyOhP1GTRQ

>>14643071
It better be. This stuff is very convincing to me, a crypto normie. I used to program but I never went in deep into any language so my understanding is limited but the parts I do understand are concerning.

>>14643072
Okaaaayyyy now I know this whole thing is a LARP lay off the LSD, kid.
I’m the idiot now for bothering to even reply to you.

I know this is just made up fud, but the way you mitigate the sybil attack is by making it economically bad to try and do this attack, which is staking and reputation. 90 nodes(randomly selected nodes with some min requirements like 3 months of good work) say the price of corn is $1 and 10 say it's $0.5. All nodes stake $1k. The 10 nodes lose $1k and get blacklisted which means they won't probably ever get selected for jobs again(depending on the min requirements).

OP's pic says the whitepaper is vague while the god damn fud is vague. Although I gotta say the fud is a really good one. I think it was about 6 months ago when I saw fud as good as this.

I'm never selling

>>14640913
Jump on this with 20/10% incentives.
Only 21M max

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2827989.msg51629410#msg51629410

>>14642735
until a better solution comes along
i recall the enigma dev stating chainlink was a temporary bandaid on the oracle problem
well here is the permanent solution
>https://medium.com/@_unwriter/the-metanet-starts-84f255a65782
>https://neon.planaria.network/#/

>>14643139

Actually, it is not.

You guys just wish so much for link to be your train to heaven that is deludes your clear thinking.

Again, I am not here to shill for or against whatever lottery you retards play. I am here to tell you, to check your expectations.

>>14643139
>the way you mitigate the sybil attack is by making it economically bad to try and do this attack, which is staking and reputation
The reputation described in the whitepaper is centralized and not sybil resistant. You cannot just sweep this HUGE problem under the rug. Decentralized reputation has NEVER been done. You're not gonna solve it in one vague paragraph. Either you have a fully spec-ed out white paper, or you're a lying scammer (they are).

>>14641091

damn, you shitting bricks by now.

Good luck india.

>>14641097

kek

>>14643198
>Decentralized reputation has NEVER been done
It's called BFT consensus, and it's been done plenty of times.

>>14643072
>>14643198
>google
>swift
>oracle
if you keep screeching like the subhuman shitskin you are you'll finally be able to convince someone

>>14643012
thanks for the input subhuman but I don't take advice from niggers with sub 90 IQ and aren't sentient

>>14643043
>Wouldn’t they have just disappeared with our money instead?

Because that’s the dumb way to scam, you stupid fuck. To pull off a real crypto scam the idea is simple; promise bug, revolutionary things that have never been done before, like solving the computer science problem of decentralized trustless information, then spend years slowly doing not much other than putting out a few tweets and doing the same ChainLink 101 presentation to a crowd of 6 people next to the fire exit. Keep doing this. Keep doing just enough to be visible and appear to be working. Keep doing this until fucking everyone has forgotten about you, until everyone has stopped thinking about you, at that point you can silently slip away.

Understand now, dumb fuck? What did you think sergey did with his last 2 ventures that failed? Did he exit sharp with bags of cash, or did he slowly wind down ‘development’ then later make some excuse and waddle away? Fucking hell, no wonder linkies are getting scammed, they can’t even recognise the damn thing in progress. Chainlink will still pump and shit, until it doesn’t. The graph will look like one of those actual exit scam shitcoins except the bleedout will be much slower.

>>14643066
>replying to me while refuting nothing

You realize you’d look better if you just pretend you didn’t see it, right? Now you look like you’re angry but can’t say anything to counter me. Well done linkie. Out-tarding yourselves constantly.

>>14643218
yeah dude shitting bricks over the only project in crypto partnered with google oracle and swift. please kys shitskin it's so tiresome reading your sub 90 IQ posts

>>14643287
>google
>oracle
>swift
keep trying shitskin you're adorable sweetie

>>14643286
>>google
promoting their own cloud services to linkies
>>swift
promoting their own public APIs that anyone can use, which Chainlink used to create something
>>oracle
promoting their own cloud services to linkies

You're too stupid to understand that though. You think those companies are actually using Chainlink kek

>>14643287
>The graph will look like one of those actual exit scam shitcoins except it won't.

>>14643286
Do you repeat those 3 names while you rock back and forth in the corner of your room while the landlord bangs on your door? Don’t you have any self awareness to see how cringey this is?

>here’s an argument why Chainlink is actually fucking shit
>google swift oracle
>these are the technical reasons why the system still isn’t working yet
>GOOGLE, swift oracle
>Chainlink does not have a network of decentralised oracles
>GOOGLESWIFTORACLE
>GOOGLESWIFTORACLLLLLLLEEEEEEE
>GOOOOOOGLESWIIIIIIIFTORAAAAAACLLEEE

Are you legitimately fucking autistic or something? Can babby say more than 3 words?

>>14643324
come on keep talking shitskin these are great pumpkin. it's okay your shitcoin is worthless and isn't partnered with oracle, swift or google :)

>>14643340
mmm yes I love nolinker cope that your shitcoins aren't partnered with google, oracle or swift. it's okay sweetums you were too stupid to understand link :)

Who's buying more link? 3.36 is honestly a fucking bargain considering 1k eoy is a modest estimate.

>>14642789

There ain't no cringe about it really

If any of you guys are sub 100 IQ linklet bros and actually believe this shit, just read what i posted in another thread.

>>14642639

lol at the stinkies. Thank fucking god I sold at 4 bucks. Fukcing idiots

>>14643371
im debating it. I kinda wanna get it below that tho $3 i only have about 201 chainlink right now tho

>>14643296

Calm down little boy.

You can build a house with your bricks

XD

>>14643401

Would sell God too for 4 bucks

>>14643400
I already know it cannot withstand Sybil attacks. If they could, they would have published a design that does so already. It will remain centralized forever.

And the problem with centralized oracles is that no one really needs them, and they are valueless. So no dev will ever adopt Chainlink, which will inevitably kill the price once the fake partnerships run out of steam.

>>14643454
Well, mainnet is decentralized already. read the news sometimes.

>>14643412
keep trying shitskin you can't fud oracle, google and swift :)

He only wanted hookers.

NXT was not up for that.

So he moved on .... with links

LINKIES/MARINES or whatever .. are just his private wallet for hookers and blow .

>>14643470

"Oracle,Google,Swift" xD

Are you stuttering inbred?

>>14642412
Oracle is spending hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of man labor and resources in order to promote what exactly?

>>14643471
>he only wanted to be a real sentient human
>unfortunately he was born a subhuman shitskin
it's okay, you share the fate of billions

>>14643400
THOSE ARE SOME WELL-WORDED POSTS, BUDDY
if I was into shilling, I would screenshot them.

I can't believe fat image board NEETs are smarter than Google and Oracle. What a world

>>14643495

Im white and I see Northern lights all the time.

Shit stain.

>>14643487
you're mad your shitcoin isn't partned with oracle, google and swift :)

I love this thread. Reminds me of before mainnet. You can see all the weak hands who dont even know what they're invested in. I'm almost convinced at this point this guy is a CIA/Google glownigger tasked with decoupling the rayciss alt right from the project. Too bad it's just weeding out the FOMO redditors

t. 10k LINK

>>14643470

Try me.

>>14643512
objectively false, seeing how only niggers and other shitskins were too stupid to invest in LINK :)

it's okay you're not sentient

>>14643515

Does the retard put words together now?

wow

>>14643365
well Chainlink is not actually partnered either. Google is clearly not a partner, they actually announce their partners. Neither is Swift. They never announced it. They clearly use the word "partnership" in all their partnership announcements.

Oracle did announce a "partnership", but it was to "help 50 start ups integrate Chainlink". Not sure what would be the point of that, integrating Chainlink is easy as fuck, there's just no reason to do so cause it's centralized and doesn't really offer any advantages. If Oracle decided to actually use Chainlink in some way that would actually be cool, but it is not the case. They're just pushing 50 start ups to use it, which is pretty weak.

>>14640946
this is really fucking lame. I can't believe linkies were scamming us all along.

>>14643538

It's okey being slow, you will eventually get there.

>>14643546
If you had watched the presentation you would know that they are not just "helping them use chainlink" but helping them use blockchain technology via chainlink.

>>14643527
why? you've already proven you're a subhuman shitskin

>>14643546

You need at least 80 IQ to understand this.

Don't expect much from these "marines"

>>14640977
>I wax floors for a living
Thanks Anon, I appreciate it.

>>14643573

Says the pooping Indian ranting on his phone on the streets multitasking with his inbred siblings.

>>14643465
It is not decentralized. You've been fooled. I've already proven that.

>>14643491
Their cloud services. But you're probably too stupid to know what that is, so it's normal you think this is a real partnership, you have low IQ.

>>14643505
Not really, Google and Oracle got their money's worth. They got a bunch of exposure to their cloud services. This is what they wanted. They literally make hundreds of articles, videos and events to promote their cloud services. Chainlink is just one of the hundreds of gimmicks they used. They didn't fool Google and Oracle. Those 2 got exactly what they wanted.

>>14643573

I meant try me on your claims that we can't put down big internet conglomerates. You know what I meant.

Cringe

>>14643495
>>14643515
>>14643538
>>14643573
Are you shaking IRL? I understand it's hard for you to tell, but you're sperging really fucking hard here. The giveaway is how your posts are hardly related to what the people you're replying to said.

>>14643610

Let him have fun. I am enjoying it

>>14643610

Like I said, he is multitasking pooping with his siblings.

Give him some time ... phone filled with poop fucking up his touch screen...

>>14643568
that's actually worse, it's not even Chainlink focused, it's blockchain focused with a bit of Chainlink. The devs will probably not use Chainlink once they get familiar with the blockchain space.

>>14643600
>But you're probably too stupid to know what that is, so it's normal you think this is a real partnership, you have low IQ.
You mean how you're too stupid to know what Galois theory is, because of your low IQ? Yeah I guess.

Mate this is like the 4th time I've reminded you that knowledge doesn't equal intelligence. You are not more intelligent than someone that can't code, it'd be like me claiming I'm more intelligent than you because I speak German, or because I know complex analysis. It's not how it works. You look very stupid when you act this way.

>>14641091
Hodlers own 35% of the supply not selling will have no effect

>>14640913
Btc. The only coin that is not a scam

>>14643544
no I'll just keep repeating those three companies names since you're sub 90 IQ doesn't have the capability of understanding much so by repeating 3 of the largest global companies have partnered with link maybe you'd understand it' the only project in crypto that matters

>>14643546
thanks troglodyte keep gaslighting, do you also have trouble sleeping at night knowing you're going to be poor forever because your nigger brains were too stupid to understand LINK?

>>14643562
>it's okey being slow,
no it's not, fuck retards like yourself with sub 90 IQ

>>14642631
>I will go in myself
but how?

>>14640913

nothing.

There's organized group of anons. They picked a coin by some fancy name. Shilled it here for years everyday taking shifts.

Chainlink is powered by the power of shills you cannot stop it.

>>14643649
You are arguing about the validity of software with a software engineer, while knowing little on the topic yourself. That alone is low IQ behavior.

Don't mind me

>>14643649
>spent hundreds of hours studying pure math which is unironically useless for all possible applications of making $$$
>calls others retarded
would kek but made the same mistake myself :(

>>14643680

Wrong. The only coin that as a scam succeeded really hardcore.

>>14643682

KEK

You have poop in your mouth, not nice for everyone else.

You are very slow actually or probably just trolling cause of all the houses of bricks you make.

>>14641173

Except nothing you just said is true at all. You can read their fucking contract code yourself and see that the data comes from an opaque address that is specified by the contract creator. There is no consensus system at all. Their references to a decentralized system are all bullshit hypotheticals

People do tend to buy dreams and then defends it with stupidity.

Like this thread

>>14643682
I've presented facts, you've presented nothing, hence I won.

>>14643594
ah yes there it is, finally the inferiority complex of being a subhuman shitskin rears its head

>>14643609
yeah fudding link is pretty cringe

>>14643610
no I'm only hot and bothered. and stfu faggot, imagine being so low IQ like yourself you take these people seriously and give them serious replies, actually engaging with retards in debate about something that's already been debated about for the past 2 years and isn't a problem for chainlink. you give validation to their retardation, congratulations.

>>14643632
plebbit is calling, you seem like the type of guy who really needs to have his opinion validated via upvotes and popular opinion

>>14643728
>can't find in in a smart contract
>doesn't exist
The problems lies in you. No need to froth at the mouth more.

>>14643764
>declaring victory
impotent, butthurt loser detected

>>14643767

Did the inbred larping indian say anything?

Does mum still wipe your inbred ass?

oh she drowned in the poop river ?

>>14643767

>>14643609 (You)
yeah fudding link is pretty cringe

Nigger trust me, I am whiter, richer and better informed than you. I like you though, I think you're funny.
Entertaining really

Thanks anon just sold my bags at a 14x return. Will buy back after this fud gets link back to sub $2

>>14643712
Others might be, I myself am staying within my bounds of knowledge. And come on, don't act like a child caught redhanded now. You aren't calling people low IQ for acting like they know shit about a topic they're clueless in, you're calling them low IQ for not knowing coding. Don't try to pretend differently, that's also the reasoning you used for calling yourself intelligent, "because you can code." It's not how it works. This is where I could go "and if anything's low IQ behavior then it's to keep telling people they're low IQ for lacking knowledge in something they never bothered learning," but I understand that you're just a little heated here.

>>14643714
Nah, Galois theory was just one lecture I took for my industrial maths degree.

>>14643814

Did you just change the channel and started on a new larping journey :O

oh my

>>14643727
no I just enjoy calling nolinkers subhuman shitskins because objectively that's the only way you could have missed this boat is if your sub 90 IQ couldn't understand LINK.

how often do you think about us sweetums, nolinker syndrome isn't good for your health, you shouldn't get so upset that some people were smart enough to make a good investment but you weren't

>>14641418

Congrats on reaching your second year of being a web developer sirs.

The reason what you said is idiotic is because you lack any understanding of blockchain engineering and smart contracts specifically. While it is unlikely for googles API in your example to lie randomly once there is an actual financial incentive that exists relying on that data there is effectively a price on either manipulating it or controlling enough of the network to manipulate it.

No software or software company is going to accept this blanket intractable risk when developing shit like contracts to handle derivatives with millions at stake. If they were going to point at 3 random nodes why wouldn’t they just fucking set up a data feed they control you idiot. There is 0 reason to add the complication and risk.

>>14643848

What?

Are we still on the high horse pretending?

Im enjoying watching fake marines larping

>>14643843

No, I have the same IP since this conversation started, if that is what you are asking. I live in Vienna, Austria, and I do not need to hide myself from the likes of you. Happy now?

Who's the jokester

>>14643838
What's low IQ is not not knowing programming. It's talking about the validity of software or computer science principles like you do, when you don't.

>>14643894

Vienna, such a nice dream.

Never stop dreaming anon.

Never!

>>14640946
fucking based.

>>14643799
ooga booga, sorry did you say something nigger brains?

>>14643814
i'm just here to make people mad and feel bad about themselves for being smug cunts


>>14643814
whatever helps you sleep at night munchkin

>>14643920

I was being honest

>>14642265

You can read the contract yourself faggot there is nothing to validate it once it’s on chain and once it’s on chain any damage from a dishonest source is done

>>14643936

I don't speak Chicago.

Frizl, when did you get out of prison? I haven't seen you since Ariel Casto offed himself

>>14643942

Strong larp.

strong indeed .. one day I will send you a Vienna post card (:

>>14643883
>high horse
we're not discussing morality you pee brained milksop subhuman

if you enjoy fake marines larping is that why you're larping as a sentient White man who thinks he's intelligent by not investing in the only project in crypto that matters? because that would be the ultimate fake marine larp

>>14643901
Correct.
So stop calling people unintelligent for not knowing programming, something you've done numerous times in the past. I'm just trying to help you avoid making yourself look like a dumbass man.

>>14643958
excuse me nigger it's called Chiraq you uncultured swine

>>14641173
You sound fucking smart. What crypto do you have?

>>14643972

:O

Did I ever buy LINK?
Did I ever Sell LINK?

hmmmmmmmm

>>14640913
5 year JS & Python back-end programmer here, this is definitely a legit concern. I'm currently back-engineering the Intel SGX maltoid practice via the cmd chain in an anonymous node centre, I can't say for sure if the data integrity has been compromised yet but I'll know within 48 hours. All HTTPS parsing methods look ok so far.

>>14643992

Excuse me larp

save someone for real.

Do it.

>>14643970

Retrd. I studied in the US for 4 years, got married, divorced again after another 5 years. In Los Angeles. I am actually Austrian. And I am not lying here. You can go suck my dick.
This is what happens when you are honest on 4chan.. they won't believe

>>14644010

48hours

I smell inside trading.

>>14643983
How would you know my internal reasoning for calling someone low IQ? Everyone in this thread that is pro chainlink is a non-programmer arguing about software, hence all low IQs.

>>14644041

wow

detailed larp

you got it almost, forgot the cat.

>>14643970

I can't fucking wait

>>14641678
Well what about the examples Fernando "ribbed for her pleasure" Ribeiro gave. Such as b2b uses like businesses selling their .api s to each other

>>14644067

And that is the thing too... I am not larding at all. I am not like many here trying to sell you some coin or make you not buy another. I am just being honest. All of that crypto investing = lottery

>>14644075

Here you go!
No reason getting it dirty sending it to india

>>14644103

Crypto Realm is chaotic .. too much larp not enough time.

>>14641629
>Implying they don't have one of the most rigorously reviewed code bases

Just because they aren't being transparent to nobodies on a Siberian cup-stacking forum doesn't mean they haven't had their code tested and approved by pros at Facebook, Google, Oracle, Swift etc. You aren't entitled to know shit, LINK isn't for you.

>>14644133

IQ is not for you.

>>14644004
of course you never bought link, you're a subhuman shitskin we already went over this

>>14644023
stop plebbit spacing nigger, do it.

>>14644057
>You aren't calling people low IQ for acting like they know shit about a topic they're clueless in, you're calling them low IQ for not knowing coding. Don't try to pretend differently, that's also the reasoning you used for calling yourself intelligent, "because you can code."

>>14644146
as a subhuman nigger how are you qualified to lecture people on IQ?

>>14644149

LINK this LINK that I have LINK

hehe

A true hodler stresstest everything.

regardless the moaning and bitching from inept inbreds.

>>14640913
Not selling nor reading that crock of shit you posted fudboy.

>>14644163

Im black now?? haha

Projecting are we?

God you stink.

>>14644133
The code is open source. The problem is it's not code for decentralized oracles. And like I said, there is only one reason to not publish your specs, because you're lying and you don't have any. Literally every legit projects have done that. Link has not.

>>14643764
oh I missed this
nope sorry bucko you've presented nothing besides your low IQ and inability to understand LINK, maybe go read the Whitepaper and have sex then MAYBE, just MAYBE your sub 90 IQ could understand

>>14644010
Did you try counter signaling the mainframe to 1.21 jiggawatts?

>>14644128

Look, if I want to have fun I go /b/ and make the pornfags suffer. I want to have another sort of fun, I go raid YouTube channels with /pol/

What I am here for is to see what everyone is talking about... chainlink... and once I saw... seriously, how much unfounded, unproven, we will all be rich, bullshit do you need to get fed to believe it?

Like I said. protect the innocent dear anon. Do you want some kid to lose his 10k dollars?

>>14644181

Read everything.

Don't be a stuttering inbred indian screaming oral nosebook and black goo all day long.

>>14643198
Reputation is optional. If you want nodes verified by some organisations then you can select that. However if their track record is sufficient, then you can just go with nodes that have no verified "reputation". In the end it's all about the likelyhood. How likely is it that from 100 nodes with perfect 3 or 6 months track record, over 50 will now suddenly misbehave? Near zero in theory, but we will see it in practice. Ofc atm this "mainnet" isn't finished completely.

>>14644192
Link is a legitimate project and didn't, which proves you wrong

>>14644161
How would you know? Seems to me like you wanted to argue for the sake or arguing, then you got BTFO, and now you're butthurt. Which actually means you're pretty low IQ yourself.

>>14644187
>29 fucking posts
would you just fuck off already? head back to whatever reddit shithole you came from. Or you could yo uknow instead of complaining buy into link while you still can

>>14644193
>nope sorry bucko you've presented nothing
incorrect, you're just too dumb to comprehend what I've presented. Too bad, you will get rekt later, the smart people are selling (their own devs kek)

>>14644205

Kids with 10k

Explain that

they wagecuck ??

Sob stories are cringe these days.

>>14644187
>>14644165
I've been calling you a nigger and subhuman shitskin this entire time though, are you selectively reading like a nigger and ignoring what I've been saying? how dare you tyrone

>God you stink.
yeah boi my linky stays supper stinky $1000 EOY

>>14644211
You shouldn't be wasting your time arguing with the coping nolinker

>>14644212
How is it legitimate? They raised 32mil for decentralized oracles, it's been 2 years, no decentralized oracles in sight.

How does it feel to get BTFO every time you post? Must feel pretty bad.

>>14644057

This is objectively true and anyone who believes otherwise should consider the absolute lunacy required to think that way.

Imagine you all had invested in a factory to make gears for use in airplanes. Now imagine someone who works in aeronautical mechanics comes in and explains that the gear prototype they spent 2 years and 32 million on is actually just a mold to make an already existing gear design and they have no factory at all.

Now imagine all the shareholders start getting angry at this and convince themselves these amazing gears they’re not producing will enable FTL travel. That’s what all this is like

>>14644223

Omega-3 will suit you real good.

take it

and btw my spacing is for my dog so he can read.

Does anyone have that write up that was posted recently using pic related for the thread? It BTFO's any argument for sybil attacks quite thoroughly. I can't find it on warosu?

Sybil attacks literally aren't an argument when you realize that trust systems existed BEFORE crypto, hence why nodes are only being given to trusted users and kyc currently. Don't feel like writing it all out again but eventually it'll come to a point where there's no incentive to lie.

>>14644234

Like I witnessed here all day: Shills for link animated everyone to sell everything they have, take out loans, and so on

>>14640913
>Chainlink has been proven to be a scam
Imagine...
>pic related
>proof of work
>invented in 1999 by Ari Juels
Hmmm...this gives me the big think

>>14644245

tyrone? niqqer? subhuman? shitskin?

Damn your whole family is here shilling??

:O

notice how that 42 faggot is mysteriously missing from this thread, uncle oldfag is truly a pathetic human being, if you can call him that

>>14644263
>>14514053

>>14644232
sorry bucko but I just had sex for the 3rd time today and reread the Whitepaper for the 777th time, maybe if you had as much sex as me and read the Whitepaper you'd realize you're objectively false and how ashamed you'd be at yourself for your nigger brains' inability to understand LINK and how it can't be sybil attacked

>>14644283
>notice how that 42 faggot is mysteriously missing from this thread,
SURPRISE MOTHERFUCKER

>>14644289
thanks 42, you're absolutely based.

>>14644266

I sold nothing, moved nothing, just jumped in.
I only have crypto ;)

Those who took up a loan, that's on them.

Fucking victims everywhere regardless if it's themselves doing it.

>>14644249
Just trying to help some newlinker lurkers understand better since I was one of them some long time ago(1.5y).

>>14644267
>proof of work
>invented in 1999 by Ari Juels
Hmmm...this gives me the big think

>>14644277
>niqqer
lmao oh no, tyrone is too afraid to use the naughty word. call your boy jamal and girl shequanda over and maybe the three of you put together will finally have a high enough mean IQ to understand LINK

>>14644254
>Imagine you all had invested in a factory to make gears for use in airplanes.
In this analogy, gears do not exist yet and have only been hypothesized in a foolproof way by the people who own that factory, which is why you've invested in them.
>Now imagine someone who works in aeronautical mechanics comes in and explains that the gear prototype they spent 2 years and 32 million on is actually just a mold to make an already existing gear design and they have no factory at all.
Except they do have a factory but they have been working to actually manufacture the gears to follow the blueprint as best as possible.

>>14643365
>”B-BUT I SAID GOOGLE
WHY WONT YOU LISTEN TO ME I SAID GOOGLE!!! I SAID SWIFT AND ORACLE TOO! WHY DIDNT YOU STOP ARGUING WHEN I SAID THOSE 3 THINGS OMG THIS SPELL DOESNT WORK IM ASKING HARRY POTTER FORUMS WHAT IM DOING WRONG PLZ MAKE ME RICH CHAEINLINK IM BROKER THAN BROKE”

>>14644309
No problem friend, always glad to lend a helping hand to a fellow marine
<>;-)

>>14644200
The power-controls are blocked by the Syblix firewall surrounding the mainframe. I suppose we can double-trace the line-signals for an extra jW injection but then we need access to the JSON parser sideframe area which is triple salted with a hashbyte framework lock.

>>14644211
>Reputation is optional. If you want nodes verified by some organisations then you can select that. However if their track record is sufficient, then you can just go with nodes that have no verified "reputation". In the end it's all about the likelyhood. How likely is it that from 100 nodes with perfect 3 or 6 months track record, over 50 will now suddenly misbehave? Near zero in theory, but we will see it in practice. Ofc atm this "mainnet" isn't finished completely.
Ok but you are literally RETARDED.

A reputationless node cannot be trusted, hence it cannot be used. The only usable nodes use a CENTRALIZED reputation system. How would you know what is missbehaving? Where is this data stored? In a CENTRALIZED reputation database. Or is it store in a decentralized reputation system? What are the specifications for this system? Because this has NEVER been done and the one paragraph on it in the white paper doesn't explain even 1% of what would be needed to know to make such a system.

How does it feel to be sub 100 IQ? Must feel pretty bad. Keep replying I'll keep BTFO of everything you say until you rage quit.

>>14644256
I already take omega-3 m8

>>14644283
How does it feel to always keep getting BTFO?
>rhetorical question

>>14644313
>newlinker lurkers
They're redditors, just let them stay poor fren

>>14644335

You only believe this because you’re in a cult. In reality gears have existed from the beginning and what they have made is not what thy promised not is it anything anyone would use. That is what we’re trying to explain but you refuse to accept it

>>14644332

Did you just do that?
Whole family tucked together now with a LINK blanket

hot coco also ?

Cute nigger family larping their way out of the ghetto.

>>14644253
I can't imagine having this little patience. The oracle problem is not something that you just fix overnight. They are laying the groundwork first, initially working with a few trusted node providers. There are still many more building blocks that will need to be built, but it will take lots of time.
Also decentralised reputation is pretty fucking trivial, maybe look up BFT consensus instead of embarrassing yourself like the stuttering pothead you are.

>>14644313
>he thinks he understands software
kek

>>14644283
>42
>mysterious
Mfw

>>14644376
some of us caught wind of this about 1-2weeks prior to the redditor shit or whatever. a bought in at $1 but didnt buy very much some kind anon on /pol/ clued me in

>>14644340
COPE

>>14644379
Oh, really, then tell me what platform enables smart contracts connected to external data, sweetie
>cult
Not an argument, literally read the whitepaper. COPE

>>14644414
>some kind anon on /pol/ clued me in
We’re trying to spread the good news far and wide for those with the eyes to see and the ears to listen

>>14642583
So switch reputation providers. Everyone would be able to see a reputation provider's actions on-chain. This is the compromise to get enterprises on board. They will not adopt a public blockchain without service guarantees, which is exactly what reputation providers... provide.

>>14644414
Same, I got in late April from pol.

>>14644422

> Manual contract data entry
> Price oracles from constant product decentralized exchanges like uniswap
> Generic prediction validation oracles like Augur or Hivemind
> Centralized feeds of all sorts

You have no idea what you’re talking about at all. I know it feels bad but you should. One to terms with just being in a pump and dump scam. This isn’t a legit project

>>14644445
thanks m8 hopefully i can make it or make a good amount with 200
>>14644464
will make it

Made a thread to answer >>14644428

>>14644475

It's legit for the hookers.

>>14644457

They don’t need any of this. They can just enter data into contracts themselves. You guys have no idea how smart contracts work at all

>>14643633
>that's actually worse, it's not even Chainlink focused, it's blockchain focused with a bit of Chainlink.
Top fucking kek that is literally Chainlink's whole usecase. You don't understand a single thing about Chainlink do you? LMAO
Absolute brainlet tier fud. I pity the nulinkers that fall for it

>>14644384
>I can't imagine having this little patience. The oracle problem is not something that you just fix overnight. They are laying the groundwork first, initially working with a few trusted node providers. There are still many more building blocks that will need to be built, but it will take lots of time.
>Also decentralised reputation is pretty fucking trivial, maybe look up BFT consensus instead of embarrassing yourself like the stuttering pothead you are.
Absolutely FALSE.

All real projects at least know the fundamental tech needed to be decentralized BEFORE they raise money/start coding. Example, BTC, ETH, EOS. GRIN.

Chainlink literally raised money having no clue how to do decentralized oracles, then took 2 years to build something fucking TRIVIAL.

Look, they've took 2 years and 32mil and have made ZERO progress towards decentralized oracles. They've published 0 papers and produced 0 code that is actually working towards decentralization.

You're fucking coping

Also, show me one example of sybil resistant decentralized reputation working in production you god damn brainlet. YOU CANT. You're gonna show me some fucking permissionned bullshit that you don't even fucking understand yourself because you're dumb as fuck.

You think that what Chainlink have done so far is IMPRESSIVE and you think that decentralized reputation is TRIVIAL. KEK IT'S LITERALLY THE OPPOSITE. HOW FUCKING DUMB ARE YOU?

>>14644340
>oracle
>google
>swift

lmao u mad shitskin, get fucked loser you wish your shitcoins were partnered with them

>>14644380
>regurgitates my banter for the 7th time
thank you tyrone, very cool of you to keep displaying your sub 90 IQ for all of us to chuckle at

>>14644457
>So switch reputation providers. Everyone would be able to see a reputation provider's actions on-chain. This is the compromise to get enterprises on board. They will not adopt a public blockchain without service guarantees, which is exactly what reputation providers... provide.
So Chainlink is centralized and no dev will ever use it... cool... remind me why this is valued at $4bil again?

>>14644500

Please do explain, it might be informative.
But also, it is no way to seduce the retards into thinking they will be all rich if they only buy whatever you sell.
That being said, I can't wait for your information.

>>14644475
>oracle
>google
>microsoft
>not legit
keep trying sweetie pie

>>14644555

I see projecting and that's it.

I pray for you anon

>>14644522
No. I know exactly what I'm talking about. Chainlink's oracles are centralized, and any dev will know that Chainlink adds no value after a few hours of coding around with it, and decide not to use it in their final project.

>>14644579

What is there to explain? As a company I have a contract on chain. It needs a price of some off chain asset. I write the contract with a function so that as the uploaded I can call it and specify the price. It’s that simple. Why the fuck would I set up a chain link oracle contract and pay myself link to run a server to to take that link and do a more expensive contract call to enter the data?

>>14644586
>muh projecting
mm yes what other psuedo-intellectual psychological concepts are you aware of tyrone? do you also believe people who are a afraid of spiders secretly want to fuck them? it's not your fault you were too stupid to understand LINK, IQ genetics are a lottery and it's completely fine you didn't win

All you have to do is repent tyone

>>14644662

You really don't read anything do you?

typical larper

>>14644584
>Real partner sirs trust us
>more than blog post
>don’t worry partner is real sir
>big macrosaft pennis in Chainlink ass strong partnerings

>>14644662

btw spiders and fucking?

what's wrong with you?

LINK the only one that is red in portfolio

that's real cute.

>>14644724
https://youtu.be/3MdIri5ji68
I’m at 42 and you’re at 3

>>14644636

Right. And why do I not do this myself as a company that has to pay for lawyers anyway?

>>14644769

Got the Guide? I got my towel.

John 3:16

Good luck anons

>>14644414
I only came on /biz/ once in a while since way back when ETH was $15, figured I just missed out on everything so I never paid any attention to link. Did some reading passively and understood the scope of the project so I went all in after mainnet

>>14644829


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQc2WNmDgvk

>>14644483
I'm sorry but you are too late, 1k is the minimum for a suicide stack. I have 10k, the minimum for a make it stack.

>>14644844
> I went all in after mainnet
Chekked and based

>>14644483
Keep accumulating
You’re good through all of 2019
>seeing as you posted that pic you might appreciate this video
https://youtu.be/W9XLr3lxeH8

>>14644783
>got the guide?
You know it friend

>>14644954

<3

>>14644723
Hes referring to how liberals say "homophobes are secretly gay" and then applying that logic to arachnophobia, dont know why hes applying that to you though

>>14644776
Cheaper

>>14644724
lmao mmmm tasty cope, keep trying sweetie cakes

>>14644695
>larping
it's not my fault you don't like the objective reality of you being a subhuman nigger tyrone and being too stupid to understand LINK. now give me my next (You) boyo

>>14644723
don't pretend with me tyrone

>>14644979

Maybe one day he will find his luck.

>>14645017

You are still not reading anything.

Hilarious.