/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>14419127
Didn't you get the memo?
BCH is dead.

The node software is shit. It can't scale beyond a few tiny Megabytes.
Devs beg for money and would sell it to VC if they could.
Tech debt is massive.
Full of bugs.
It's a dead fucking project.

>>14419163
>It can't scale beyond a few tiny Megabytes.
You missed the memo where they mined 1GB blocks in a test net.

>>14419127
Why would you choose bch over dash though? Aren't the two coins almost identical except dash isn't targeted by a 3 letters agency?

>>14419163

lol are you serious? Dead project? It's got more development activity than 99% of coins out there: https://cash.coin.dance/development

>>14419528

Because Dash did a really shady pre-mine and isn't nearly as technologically interesting as BCH.

>>14420266
>Because Dash did a really shady pre-mine and isn't nearly as technologically interesting as BCH.
Dash doesn't suffer from such a bad rep as bch. Did you eve see people care dash is a scam? No. But every crypto news site out there tarnishes bch every time, plus it has to withstand attacks which are meant to provide an endless stream of negative headlines, like the last 2 block "reorg".
Face it, nobody cares LTC/Dash and a hundred of other coins started as a useless get rich quick scam for the founder, but everyone cares about bad rep everywhere in the media.

>>14419480
Mining a 1 GB Block is not the problem. Propagating it trough a truely decentralized network (BCH Aint it) is the problem.

>>14419127
have already longed 1500 bch :)

>>14420418
That's why the block cap is set to 32MB and not 1GB...
Anyway, making 1GB blocks propagating without being vulnerablel to attacks is several orders of magnitude simpler than implementing a secure LN.

>>14420421
At what price did you get in?

>>14419127
Bitcoin CASH

>>14420689

>>14419127
>> Added schnorr signatures before BTC
What's it like being BTC's other testnet?

>>14420798
You're confusing BCH with LTC.

>>14420804
That's why I said 'other'. If your reading comprehension is indicative of BCash quality then you should report back to Roger that he's fucked. He'll give you your pic related

>>14420492
0.037 something

>>14419127
>Currently processing 20% the transactions of BTC
ethereum processes 2-3x more transactions than btc for 2 years now
>#2 coin in terms of USD transacted per day @ $5bn/day
value transacted statistics are extremely inflated for utxo coins because of change addresses.

ethereum is the only coin that can flip btc

Are we being raided

https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/bodog-and-4-canadian-individuals-indicted-conducting-internet-gambling-business

>>14420937

Ethereum suffers from similar scalability issues and high fees. Average fee is like 27 cents right now. Think what that means for all the ERC20 tokens.

BCH does tokenization better with the Simple Ledger Protocol. Post an SLP address here and I'll send you some (worthless) tokens.

>>14419528
> Aren't the two coins almost identical except dash isn't targeted by a 3 letters agency?
Kind of. Dash is super legit and yes both coins are nearly identical. However Dash is the less popular one, which is the only reason it isn't targeted by a 3 letter agency - the moment it becomes more relevant it will be.
Also crowdfunding for protocol development sounds like a better idea to me than mandatory 20% tax rate. But I could definitely be wrong, Dash is spending the "tax money" very well for now.
>>14420404
> Did you eve see people care dash is a scam? No.
Technically there's more reasons to think Dash is a scam than BCH (none of them is but that's besides the point). BCH is seen as a scam due to shady tactics by the uppermentioned 3-letter agencies. As soon as Dash becomes as relevant as BCH it will suffer the same troll attacks and it will also be seen as a scam.
>>14420418
> Propagating it trough a truely decentralized network (BCH Aint it) is the problem.
The test included propagation though. Read up on Rizun's work, it's the only scientific work on scaling we have. Also BCH is just as decentralised as BTC (on a network level) and significantly more decentralised when it comes to development.
>>14420798
Schnorr is a relatively simple and risk-free change when introduced via hard fork, which doesn't need a lot of testing. BCH beat BTC to it because BTC's stance on hard forks ensures it will be years behind its competition.
>>14420937
>ethereum is the only coin that can flip btc
Ethereum looks like the first one to flip BTC, but once it does, there's no reason why BCH can't flip BTC as well.

>>14421440
>BCH does tokenization better with the Simple Ledger Protocol.
I'm an early bitcoiner and one of the few BCH defenders here, but this is a stretch. ETH offers far more flexibility with their tokenisation. BCH relies on simplicity, to prevent blockchain littering, additional scaling bottlenecks and bugs.
It's arguably better if your network's main purpose is being money (as in BCH's case) but I wouldn't call it better overall. And both have their place in the ecosystetm.

>>14419127
No crypto has more adoption in actual payments than BCH. BTC has more but is crippled by fees.
Cashshuffle makes BCH reasonably private without overdoing it. Its fast and cheap to transact and has a cultish following and you can buy actual stuff for it.

BSV has a cultish following as well. BSV is right now primarily attacking the storage niche and storage of apps with metanet. Whether this will gain real industry adoption remains to be seen but it is HIGHLY shillable since you can just send somebody a link of a website or app "hosted on muh blockchain". They have great PR and paid shills and the most delusional real shills of all. highly agressive. Unwriter is a real asset as well

- They are competing for different markets for now
- They both will have a halving soon
- They have absolutely delusional communities and nicely shillable products


Anons who do their research hold both bad aussie and deluded ancap Bitcoins. BSV and BCH will be the largecaps with the hardest pumps this bullrun. They are the perfect middleground between high risk shitcoins and boring largecaps. Higher gains and higher risk but not suicide shitcoin risk. They aren't going to die anytime soon and have deluded shills and are usable for things.
Its the perfect storm for massive gains.

TLDR; Buying both corn forks is the perfect choice if you want to outperform BTC and dont go for shitcoin-level risks.

>>14422025
Props on the level-headed non-zealot post btw.
BCH is massively oversold (and it's already the biggest gainer since the bottom), BSV has billionaire crooks backing it and they're accumulating at low prices to remove the float, making it simple to pump and dump.
I'd also add ETH to the mix, I've been following ICO wallets and the vast majority of dumping pressure is behind us. The Ethereum foundation has also sold most of its ETH, and Ethereum 2.0 is coming just as selling pressure is getting exhausted.

>>14422172
Exactly. Its funny when I voice this to BSVers they hate me more than anti-BSV people. They hate it more when you are in but not all-in.
I agree ETH is a good pick as well. There is literally no need to gamble on shitcoins in the early phase of this cycle.

>>14419480
This was BSV

>>14422295
they both did

>>14422295
Nope, this was Peter Rizun, whose favourite past time is destroying faketoshi on twitter lmfao.

>>14422311
correction BCH did it on testnet. BSV did it live

>>14422319
BCH mainnet literally hasn't propagated a block larger than 3MB this year. It's garbage, and will never scale.

>>14422789
You can buy a 4chan pass with BCH today. whats the last thing you bought with BSV?
They are competing for different markets right now. p2p cash versus on chain weather data

>>14422815
It's irrelevant, because BSV has the exact same technological capability for payments as BCH does, except BSV actually has even lower fees. The only thing that matters is who scales first, and BCH is dead in the water, they aren't even trying to scale. Which means they WILL lose adoption for big businesses who are waiting to onboard a stable protocol that can scale. All the adoption for BCH happened before the split when the coin benefited from all the work Craig and nChain were doing. Now that they are gone, BCH is floundering like a fish out of water. No vision, no funding, terrible leadership, terrible philosophy.

Also

>what is moneybutton

I use BSV to archive shit all the time on the blockchain. The beginning of actual recorded history starts now with BitcoinSV. Immutable and stored with humanity forever going forward.

>>14422815

bullish on onchain weather data

>>14422973
>t's irrelevant, because BSV has the exact same technological capability for payments as BCH does, except BSV actually has even lower fees

Too bad Craig has made everyone his enemy and BSV has 0% chance of seeing any real mainstream adoption

>>14419127
no cares about bcash u faggot, go back to sucking rogers ball sack. kys

>>14419127
Made irrelevant by the existence of BSV just like blockstream coin.

>>14423452
Nobody in the business world gives a single fuck about the anarcuck and commie crypto leddits where Greg and Roger LARPs with their kike friends.

Businesses want solutions that can help them make money. That's it. If BSV can shave percentages off on their operating costs, especially if they have very narrow profit margins, they will adopt, no matter how much fake FUD and altered documents Greg maxwell puts on his blog.

>>14422973
>they aren't even trying to scale.
This is a lie. BCH is scaling by both protocol and hardware while BSV just throws hardware at is.

>what is moneybutton
Overhyped as fuck wallet made by a whiny schizo with 0 successful projects under his belt.

I still hold more BSV than you by the way so why so salty?

>>14423711
>I still hold BSV
im sure you do lmfao. let me guess u bougt the exact bottom?

>>14423750
held through fork and kept DCAing both. Both BCH and BSV are high IQ holds see >>14422025

>>14423750
I shit on BSV before but I did buy the exact bottom, it was a pretty stable one, it stayed at $60 for days.
Sold at $120 tho

>>14423779
so why do u shit on bsv if u hold it dumbass? dont u want it to pump? or are you a cringy anarchist faggot?
>>14423785
i bought at 55-60 too except i still hold all mine :)

>>14423812
>so why do u shit on bsv if u hold it dumbass? dont u want it to pump? or are you a cringy anarchist faggot?
I'm not deluded. It has potential and big risks and is nowhere near as a surefire thing as deluded shills like to pretend. Are we here to talk about stuff or just relentlessly shill our bags without logic?

>>14423854
I know what im buying but dont pretend this isnt a "pump my bags" market. why dont u post proof of your "holdings" and il do the same

>>14423877
>>14422236

>>14423877
>I know what im buying
No you don't. You're an absolute retard that can't handle people being reasonable.

>>14423900
>translation: i dont have any bags i just larp to make myself feel better

>>14423711
>This is a lie. BCH is scaling by both protocol and hardware while BSV just throws hardware at is.

Enjoy your 32MB blockcap. It's never actually going up. ABC is Blockstream 2.0.

>>14423962
I announced your butthurt. Enjoy that balanced risk management of your 1000 United states Dollar portfolio

>>14423900
all u have to do is screenshot your balance cause you did dca right? i mean its really simple. you post proof and il shut up and fuck off

>>14423976
Post your stack faggot or shut the fuck up.

>>14423976
is a screenshot really that hard? lmfao

>>14423985
I love it when an all in BSV cuck demands proofs

>>14423985
>>14423989
>>14424007
Nice samefagging. I'll post proofs when Craig dies

>>14424027
does*

>>14424013
i love it when bcashers larp about their poorfolios to make them feel better about missing out on gains

>>14424027
No stack then. I knew it. Bad LARP retard I knew you were just another paid kike.

>>14424048
Damn you're so butthurt. I announced my belief BSV is a good buy in this thread and it triggers you this hard.

BSV cucks are the best. People like you are a big reason why I'm in BSV. The more deluded the community the better

>>14423985
>>14423989
>>14424007
>>14424013
you guys are all faggots and Im larping as a bitcoin core maximalist every day on this board to pick up more BSV. its actually really hard because theres barely anything bad to say about it.

>>14424074
>0 BSV: the post
yikes

Shoo shoo

>>14424083
nice stack

BCASH makes me so angry REEEEEEEEEEEREEEERRRRREEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>14424083
Kind of useless friend, as BSV is immune to PoSM. The only way you can stop it is by somehow derailing nChain and their filing of patents which nobody on /biz/ has the power to do.

>>14423989

Suck my dick BSV fgt

>>14424333
Oh yeah? Here's mine faggot.

>>14424457
Utterly btfo. Fuck poorfags.

>>14422973
>>what is moneybutton
Moneybutton is a CENTRALIZED PAYMENT GATEWAY. You're supposed to place a 3d-party widget on your website to receive payments/donations and you have to fully trust your funds to that service.

It's not decentralized.

>>14424457

Nice photoshop, cuck. Same filename, same # of accounts. Exact same graph that does not show +22%. Typical BSV PoSM routine

>>14420798
Schnorr signatures have been added to Nimiq like 1 year ago kek.
Literally bragging about old tech.

>>14424457

You just added a 9 in front of the balance. BTFO

>>14424552
You missed the point cucklord. Posting a random image that anyone can alter in paint, and without timestamp is as useless as lukewarm dogshit.

Also, it's not a picture of a BSV stack, and secondly you are not even the guy I asked.

So kindly KYS brainlet.

>>14422973
>BSV actually has even lower fees.

which lower miners incentive and thus hashrate. no wonder calvin is the only guy mining it - which is hilarious in itself because he doesn't even support bchsv on his gambling sites, only bch and btc. absolute shit tier centralized altcoin that the backer doesn't believe in enough to take as money for his business.

>>14423967
>ABC is Blockstream 2.0.

and nchain is blockstream 3.0.

>>14424938
>>14424973
I hope you are wearing a helmet in your daily life, nobody can legit be this retarded.

>>14425017

lmao you can't even attempt to rebut the facts. pathetic excuse of a shill.

>>14425069
>0 facts detected

Craig has fired up the waterworks at the courthouse in Florida

https://twitter.com/thatcryptoguyyy/status/1144639191164358656

>>14422025
>>14422172
Baste postse.