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the thread that died >>14395442

>> No.14411587

micron ruined me.

now im all in acb.

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>>14411587

I dunno if ACB is gunna do ya much better but good luck.

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OFFICIAL /smg/ IRC @ irc.rizon.net #/smg/

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Fugg

>> No.14411658

so the thing about dividends is not to look at the yield but at the growth of it.

so i should invest in a company NOT because of the yield but because i know that it will grow and give me more dividends?

>> No.14411660

>>14411587
>micron ruined me
How? Did you short it or something?

>> No.14411678

just tell me what to do with my money

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>>14411658
>so i should invest in a company NOT because of the yield but because i know that it will grow and give me more dividends?

Kinda yeah. The yield shouldn't be stupid low to begin with though. You're just looking for strong established big boy companies, with durability to weather troubles in short to medium term future, and a history of increasing their div regularly.

>> No.14411732

>>14411678
Put it in an index, set dividends and capital gains to reinvest, set an automatic transfer every month and forget about it until 2050.

>> No.14411743

Brainlet here. If bitcoin is back does that mean nvidia will eventually bounce back too, or is amd running the show now?

>> No.14411749

>>14411660
yeah, earnings was tuesday. i thought they were going down, buncha options about to expire worthless

>> No.14411856

Are we watching part 2 of the commie debates tonight boys?

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>>14411856

I had enough of the gong show yesterday. I'm baffled this crew is the best the dems have to offer at the moment. If they truly have somebody squirreled away somewhere with some vision and charisma, perhaps the election will be competitive. At this point all they've got is a cardboard cutout that says 'not Trump' and also 'never gonna be president' in fine print at the bottom.

>> No.14412026

>>14411856
I don't want to drink after last night's circus, but I'll watch it.

>> No.14412039

>>14411939
Yeah it was awful. I got to the gun grabbing topic before I called it quits.

>> No.14412043
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14412043

Guys lemme just shill real quick
>SNSS
Company about to release second phase 1b trial of very valuable drug, set to increase stock price during phase 2 by 300-1000%
>PTN
They just got what is essentially THOT-aide, a female viagra, approved by the FDA. They are still sorting out international distribution for their actual release, but you can expect a powerful increase in share price that will come gradually due to the ridiculously high trade volume this stock already has.

Both are relative cheapies right now. Good luck fellow anons.

>> No.14412090

>>14412043
>PTN
My first maymay stock I bought. Made some money from it but was bagholding it for a long while. Hard pass

>> No.14412168

>>14411939
Tonight is Andrew Yang's chance to get some notoriety since nobody knows who this guy is. He's probably going to walk away as the winner. Everybody has already heard Bernie and Biden, they've only got room to fall unless something drastic comes from the show tonight. Buttfucker and the blonde bimbo from NY aren't going anywhere, but this could be a chance for Carmella to pick up some more of the polls as well... I'm guessing Trump and Yang come away from this one in better shape, but honestly I wish they'd just cover G20 instead of distracting us with this garbage.

>> No.14412217

>>14412043
What kind of time frame am I looking at on this SNSS shit?

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Am I cool yet

>> No.14412356

>have stock of company X
>went down -0,64%
>there is this holding who is basically a family holding to control company X
>90% of holding Y earnings is because of stock of company X
>holding went down 5,41%
>all other stocks owned by holding Y went up

This makes no sense to me. Why would it go down so much? Is it just someone selling their stocks for cash?

>> No.14412399

Redpill me on options. What's the big deal about them? Why should I trade them? (I have a basic understanding on them)

>> No.14412400

>>14412168
Miss Hawaii won the first debate

Iron “Segregation” Joe will win #2

Bernie made Clinton lose 2016 so he is persona non grata amo

>> No.14412414

>>14411568
AMD, NVDA and MU are going to skyrocket once the trade-war is "won". Obviously China won't give any concessions but Trump is gonna declare it a shut case to pacify his base

>> No.14412620

>>14411620
Based and IRCpilled

>> No.14412622

>>14411587
ACB will go lower in the short term.

>> No.14412633

>>14412399

The big deal is leverage. You can make (and lose) a lot of money on options relative to a fairly mild move by the underlying stock the options are for. Alternately you may want to buy some as a hedge against an existing long position with common shares of a the company; meaning buy puts in case the price falls to decrease your loss risk.

>> No.14412642

>>14412236
Very cool anon, can't wait until your first 10% loss to put some hair on your balls

>> No.14412643

>>14412622
Been holding since last year's weed craze, I'm not doing well

>> No.14412680

>>14411658
Yeah, usually this, but look at T, it a high yield with a good chance now for capital appreciation.

>> No.14412738

>>14412633
Thanks. It sounds like a very useful gadget for pro traders (those hedges and reverse hedges are pretty cool), but I'm a small time trader and not sure I should mess with them. I mostly open non-leveraged longs, some of them leveraged, and swing trade.

>> No.14412783

>>14412643
You may want to begin defining your entries and exits; determine where your mental stop is when you enter, or before.

>> No.14412794

>>14412738
You can paper trade them to get a bit of a feel for how much they move. It's not good practice as you won't have the real money stress aspect but still it will show how they behave.

>> No.14412910

Paper trading is useless the best way to learn is to lose money

>> No.14412925

>>14412910
Yeah, pay your tuition.

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>>14412925

tell me about it

>> No.14413062

Is QYLD a buy or what?

>> No.14413091

shoutout to office depot guy on irc for shilling his stock to me and making me fat stacks today

>> No.14413124

Stupid fucking stockfags can't even keep a thread going..

>> No.14413172

>>14411721
but is investing in div companies like MSFT or AAPL or funds for their ACTUAL dividend smart?

or do i really have to think that once i buy the share, it will go up and pay more dividends?

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>>14412236
yayayaya anon!

>> No.14413211

>>14412236
yes

>> No.14413232
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STONK PICKING WAS A MISTAKE!

>> No.14413298

>>14413172
It has to go up. Who cares if it pays 10% in dividends if the price is crashing by 35% each year.

>> No.14413310

nuuuu ;_; why me sell spxl
nuuuu me knew it was going 2945

>> No.14413318

>>14413298
and what if it stays where it is?

>> No.14413325
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>>14413062
Yes buy and hold that shit. Also buy AMD and T.

>> No.14413332

yo dude wtf is up with this robinslut app it wants to fuckign jew me out of 1000$ for me to trade right now

>> No.14413344

dividends are a nice bonus, but they won't ever be significant unless you have hundreds of thousands of dollars invested into divvy stocks. I would rather see it as a modest discount on a stock provided that the company and industry are well established. A dividend on a growing company that you believe in can be very good long term if the dividend increases, as you will receive an even greater discount on the original shares that you purchased.

As long as the dividend doesn't get cut then it is considered good.

>> No.14413411

>>14413318
Inflation is 2.5%. And that's if you believe the government statistics. (see shadowstats.com) So you need to at least beat that, dividends included, unless this is a short term cash position.

>> No.14413530

>>14413411
true. though, what if i live in europe? do i have to beat europe's inflation?

i guess i'll have to beat dollar inflation because that's what i'd trade with for US stocks

>> No.14413560

>>14413344
and does this happen for every stock in the market? because maybe this is true for some div stocks like MSFT or T, but what happens with funds? are their dividends as useful as ''normal'' ones (MSFT, etc.)?

>> No.14413746

>>14413560
i'm not sure i understand the question

>> No.14413843

>>14413746
index funds or ETFs for example have a much more interesting dividend offer than stocks like MSFT because that's what they're made for

>> No.14413946

>>14413843
you would have to consider the individual ETF, as they can have drastically different strategies, fees and holdings. What ETF are you looking at?

>> No.14413968

Without dividends, there is literally no point to owning a stock outside of speculation.

>Want to buy a stake in my company, goy?
>What do I get?
>Uhhh... Voting rights?

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>paying 1.12% gross net fees for THIS

>I’ve held this for at least 10 years and never touched it

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH

I think it’s time I sell it, just take the tax hit, and use it to make my IRA contribution.

Taking suggestions for ETFs, or other opinions on why I should just let it sit.

>> No.14414041

>>14413946
vanguard ones like VSTAX or VTI. if i'm honest with you, i only know two more funds. TQQQ and QQQ

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>>14414024
SGMO on the road to $25 and beyond
NWL back to $20, paying tasty divv the whole way

go all in on 2020 CMG puts and have a name ready for your yacht
buy gold, the original and most valuable cyptocurrency

deff sell the mvalx

>> No.14414102

>>14414024

>Actively managed mutual funds
>Not based Buffet-approved index funds

You deserve this, boomer.

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>>14414102
Ackshually, this was bequeathed to me by my grandmother, a woman of the GREATEST GENERATION. Show some respect, they won the Great War, (and managed to raise the worst generation).

>> No.14414184

>>14414092
I don’t fuck with options.
I don’t bet on cult stocks (Tesla, Chipotle, Beyond Meat)
And I’m trying not to chase. I missed the free money in NWL, so now I just have to live with that fact.

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*sniffle* Conagra

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Fuck Bernie, fuck socialists, fuck commies and FUCK NIGGERS

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Requesting Your input, Rat. I’ve never heard your take on ETFs/MFs besides buying the SPY. And even that is more about trading than investing.
>>14414024

>> No.14414483

>be Andrew Yang
>get asked no questions
>have said nothing after 15 minutes of “debate”

>> No.14414499

>>14414157

Oh, in that case why not:

>Roll it over into an IRA
>Then sell it and buy shares of a more reasonably priced index fund, avoiding the cap gains tax

>> No.14414510

>>14411658
A dividend focused portfolio does not outperform the index over time. It was called the dogs of the dow and was very popular a decade or two ago. The idea was you could just hold the best dividend companies in America and you would outperform, it wasn't true at all, because while you had big dividends you had no yield, losing out on the growth of the market.

Holding the SP500 and sitting on it for decades makes you better than 99.99% of investors including all retail, professional and major equity investors. You could literally count on your hands and toes the number of people who over a 20+ year period were able to beat the index, furthermore its less likely you are beat the index these days since passive investing has removed the wild volatility that was around during the days when the big legends (Buffet, Dalio, ect) were investing and taking advantage of price to value differences.

Its funny because what makes you in the 0.01% is pretty consistent around the world, its a 20% compound yield year on year. Thats what Buffet achieved, Dalio a little less, even many of Goldmans best equity groups in the world only achieve that or a bit less, sometimes less because they dont compound as much usually operating in 2 year time frames for holding companies.

>> No.14414515

>>14414401
for long term investing you should stay out of any Gimmick etf. they only exist to fee you.
Ark does well but its still relatively new. Just buy all American index and maybe put 10% into a Japan/india index

>> No.14414577

>>14414510
Dogs of the dow still beats the market to this day

>> No.14414639

>>14414041
VTI's divvy seems to fluctuate a lot. Being that it tracks a wide range of equities, it cuts the payout when the market has a downturn. As long as you think the future looks good for the overall stock market it looks solid, but you can't count on the divvy like you can count on, say, an AT&T divvy payment.

Holding VTI long term is a very solid investment nonetheless

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this whole debate format seems like it was set up to make the democrats look like clowns

they just get like a minute each for every answer, so they spend their time (no matter what the question is) with a word salad that tries to get as many good soundbites in as possible. The answer almost never forms any sort of suitable or coherent answer to the question they were asked.
time to get groceries


>>14414639
>you can't count on the [VTI] divvy like you can count on, say, a [single company] divvy payment.
But you can count on it not to get cut to zero suddenly (or $0.01 for GE), so it has a that benefit :)

>> No.14414686

>>14414024
dawg how do i see shit like this and what does it mean im trying to make some fucking money

>> No.14414711

>>14414678
good point

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Thanks for your help, frens!

Biden:
>freeze student loan debt for people making less than $25,000 a year
Wait... that actually makes sense to me. What am I missing here? Certainly makes a lot more sense than complete loan debt forgiveness. But makes it REAL shitty to earn $26,000 a year.

>>14414515
Ark’s love of Tesla spooks me. Thanks for your input though. Any India/japan ETFs you like?

I wasn’t thinking about a meme etf, just debating schwab’s ETFs, whether to do broad market, large cap, large cap value, large cap growth, large cap divdend, etc.
>>14414499
Wait—what? I don’t think I can just put stocks into my IRA directly, can I? I’ve got to call my broker... if I could put them in an IRA directly, especially a Roth, seems like that’d be cheating.

>> No.14414755

>>14414713
>be a bank
>loan money to person believing it will be paid back
>government tells person not to pay you back
sounds fair

>> No.14414791

>>14414755
Are you deliberately misunderstanding, or just not understanding?

The only thing you’re not paying is the interest on that loan until you start actually making money.

>> No.14414833

>>14414791
i didn't hear what he said, but by the way you wrote it that's certainly what it sounded like and the way young people are so ungrateful and entitled i wouldn't be surprised if that's what he meant and what people heard.

>> No.14414943

>>14414713
>Any India/japan ETFs you like
I think all the indian ones are the same, theyve performed better than other emerging markets

For Japan, I only know of EWJ and it underperforms the nikkei by a lot. theyve come out with some variations a few months ago so have to wait and see

Russia has an amazing index called the IMOEX and is not available anywhere, they only sell the shit index. If they ever sell the MOEX thats a good thing to buy

>> No.14414955

>>14414755
>be a bank
>loan money to someone with no assets or income so they can buy a degree in critical meme studies
>never get that money back
yeah that'll happen, that's the risk of making stupid loans. what did you think risk only existed on one side of the table?

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>>14414833
>the way young people are so ungrateful and entitled

oh man the way you wrote that just sprung an idea into my head
(if) a democratic president wins, I can just see all these people my age with all their debt being SUPER excited for like a month until they find out that no, not all their debt is getting forgiven, and it will be something like a partial interest freeze.
I can just imagine , I can vividly see, all these mid-20's and 30's year old kids throwing tantrums all over social media and in real life when it happens. I can almost recite the future whining reddit posts now.
Because certainly as 2020 gets closer all these politicians will keep falling over each other to try and pander harder, and to pander more comprehensively to everyone they can. And these people with student loans, or expensive health issues, etc. will all start seeing dollar signs in their eyes, just like the way people on this board get hopeful for link $1000 EoY or LCI to $30 any day now.
And then, these people will have to eventually face the reality that their student loans aren't getting paid for, that their health problems are expensive because they're fat, that either Donny T is president again or some democrat who doesn't need to pander to them anymore. This kind of stuff already happened around the Bernie campaign in 2016, but I see it being so much more pronounced this time around.

Basically this whole election cycle will do a good job of showing the entitlement of not only the boomers (their entitlement is omnipresent, it's almost background noise at this point), but the rising whine of the indebted millennial will become a howl. And then the best part, even IF they do get something, it surely won't be enough, it won't be what they imagined or what they thought they were "promised".

>> No.14415047

>>14414955
the difference is having the government tell you that you can't collect your money. that is not a risk that any sane person factors in.

>> No.14415048

>>14414577
That’s assuming dividend reinvesting for them compounding gains, right? But one of your teachings is that DRiP is a scam, is that not so?

>>14414943
Thanks. Will certainly be looking into this more.

>> No.14415062

>>14414577
Wrong. Long term it returned 9%, Vanguard SP500 return is 13.5%.

Additionally the DotD has a key flaw which is it forces you to sell, meaning you cannot compound effectively due to fees and tax. Holding the index returns are far higher for you since you will only pay tax on the dividends, not on any extra fees for repurchasing or have any capital gains events.

>> No.14415116

>>14415062
Also, if you held QQQ from 1999 to now you made roughly 1000% your initial investment

>> No.14415213

>>14415042
It will be the entitlement to the millenials what social security and Medicaid are to boomers.
>muh gibs

>> No.14415219

>>14415048
>That’s assuming dividend reinvesting for them compounding gains, right?
DotD is a shit strategy, it was promoted by one guy (O'Higgins) during the 1970s to sell his shitty 'beat the market!' book. It has multiple flaws in it which obliterate your returns. You are forced to sell and rebuy your portfolio every year. Half the companies in 2018 DotD are not in the 2019 DotD list, meaning you have not got hit by capital gains on half your previous years profits.

Its boring. Its simply. Its mathematically the single best way to make money and its just holding the SP500 and calling it quits. I prefer Vanguard because they don't have shareholders but other companies offer the same product if you want that, its all the same shit (assuming fees and tracking errors are identical). Stop trying to 'beat' the market when 99.99% of people will never achieve that, even all those fancy faggots in suits in large equity firms. Did you know that if you take all the equity funds which existed in the 1970s and track their results vs the SP500 only TWO beat it, both were fidelity funds, they beat the market by 1-2% annually.

TWO equity funds, out of hundreds.

>>14415116
Compounding dividends and avoiding capital gains makes you a richboi very quickly. Americans and Australians live in the best countries in the world to harvest their indexes and get filthy rich from it.

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>>14415062
then you can buy a Dog of the DOW etf/etn and hold it, it outperforms as well

>>14415048
thats because if one Dog gives me dividends I might want to buy more of another dog not the same dog

>> No.14415289

>>14415225
That image is empirically wrong and those numbers false.

https://www.money-zine.com/investing/stocks/dogs-of-the-dow/

Additionally, none of that takes into account taxes or fees. Someone sitting on 100K dividends reinvested for VOO will outperform someone reshifting their portfolio to match a 100K DotD.

>> No.14415502

>>14415219
How can you avoid capital gains tax???

>> No.14415530

>>14415502
Sell at a loss relative to capital invested

>> No.14415561

>>14415219
You seem very knowledgeable.. So I just had an idea to focus most of my money on using a trend following strategy on the sp500 with 3x leverage. It would involve moving in and out of the sp500 maybe once every 1.5 months..

Would taxes ruin me?

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me so high on painkiller
this must be like heaven feel like

not care that sold spxl too soon ne more O_O

>> No.14415576

>>14412168
> distracting us with this garbage
By the time most primaries happen, most of them will have dropped out anyway. People in IA, NH, and SC are the only ones who really get to choose.

>> No.14415579

>>14415502
you can't avoid it in the long run, the point is to not pay it until you absolutely have to
if you pay cappy gains on your holdings every couple years it cuts into your compounding
if you just pay it at the end of an investment of say, 50 years, that makes a huge difference.

the only reason you would pay cap gains sooner is if you thought that the cap gains rates might be raised, and you wanted to pay the current rate against your current gains and lock in a new cost basis.

compounding really is everything in the long run, it's mathematically the strongest factor that everything else works around, even your tax strategy

>> No.14415588

>>14415530
Then what you mean is buy only SPY or a mutual fund that tracks only the s&p and sell on dec 31st of any down year then buy back in on Feb 1st and that strategy beats everyone? Then why doesn't everyone do it?

>> No.14415601

>>14415588
litterally everyone does do this though >_>
especially big money
buying SPY how they balance risk

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>>14415289
I suppose I cant argue with that

>> No.14415699

>>14415561
you'd ruin yourself before the IRS gets a chance.

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>>14415219
you're attitude is markets is correct, but I don't know why just US equity is being pushed so hard.

>> No.14415792

>>14415502
You cant avoid them because thats illegal silly. No but really, you cant. But you can delay them indefinitely. There are two types of taxes you will need to deal with while investing in stock markets, capital gains and income.

You cant avoid income tax, every time you get a dividend payment it will be taxed as income. The only cost effective thing here is to ensure you set up dividend reinvesting, you still get taxed, but there is no brokerage fee. Yeah that small $10 payment seems like not much, but over 20 years it adds up to a lot.

The second tax, capital income tax, cant be avoided either. Once you transfer or dispose (sell) your shares you will be forced to pay capital gains. Some countries have it so that if you hold for longer than 1 year, you get a 50% discount, this is a HUGE benefit for investing in capital assets that cannot be overstated enough. But the real way to avoid capital gains? Dont sell.

>>14415561
Yes, it will ruin you, along with fees and inevitable mistakes. I can explain everything in detail, but the simple fact is you will do better than 99% of all humans if you just buy VOO and hold it. And that isnt some made up percentage, I literally mean 99.99% of all people who put a cent into the stock market, fail in the long run to beat the average.

The best thing you can do when investing is realize you're not in the 0.1% of people like Buffet, Ray Dalio and Goldman/UBS/ect managers.

Compounding off an index is good enough. Be smart not greedy.

>> No.14415796

>>14415767
US has outperformed international super hard in recent years
I don't agree that the trend will necessarily continue for much longer
I do see opportunities in certain places
that said, I see European business as weak, misguided, and uncompetitive so I would only undertake an international investment strategy that specifically underweights Europe. sorry europe :)

>> No.14415858

>>14415767
QE, capital flight/flight to safety, dollar supremacy, and possibly too big to fail?

>> No.14415898

About a month ago someone decided to post something, either a picture or whatever words. It basically is hard to remember any particular line but it essentially boiled down why so many people fail at investing. Does anyone have such a post cap saved? Or remember the post or thread it was in? I cantfind this hopefully copypasta on my own

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>>14415767
Index investing is the child of John Bogle, who dedicated his life to finding the best way for people to invest when it comes to bonds, sharemarkets and bank accounts. But his studies into investing were only in the US, he never looked at international indexes. Not sure why other than it was a lot of work just to look at one country, let alone other countries as well. He literally spent his whole life studying equity funds, retail investors and everyone who touched stocks to figure out whether his hunch was right, that indexes were better than stock picking.

I only know that Australia also has exceptional returns, on par with the US, because i took an interest with Bogles work and did my own for Australia to see if I could invest at home rather than internationally. Thankfully, due to different reasons than the US, mainly franking credits and a high dividend culture, Australia is actually the perfect index country to just hold and let it compound. I dont know about other countries than the US and Australia though. But you could figure it out yourself if you wanted.

If anyone wants to learn more go order The Little Book of Common Sense Investing. Its the only investing book you need to read and its short and to the point. Just force yourself to do it.

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trust fund babby here, are stocks a good way to make more income assuming that i have enough money to start and i learn what i need to know?

>> No.14415971

>>14415898
I fail at investing because I have suicidal tendencies which cause me to do things that I know will hurt me

>> No.14415997

>>14415958
Yes, the proper starter portfolio is:

-DRYS
-NAK
-JCP
-UVXY
-LCI
-GE
-Any other triple leverage etf you want to buy!

>> No.14416010

>>14415958
Go read The Little Book of Common Sense Investing then put it all into Vanguard VOO.

Not a meme reply, this is actually the best thing for your financial future.

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>>14415792
you already dead inside if you not believe you next .01%

>> No.14416013

>>14415958
Stocks only work for income if you're good, willing to work hard and constantly read up on companies. Patience is key, as well.
Don't put money in stocks that people here tell you to put money in. 80% of it is a meme and the other 20% are people trying to scam you.

>> No.14416041

>>14415997
*ahem*
All in on ITOT

>> No.14416062

>>14416041
stay away from that shit stock

>> No.14416063

Sell the index, Market Buy Bowl America

>> No.14416078

>>14415958
Put everything in an index fund.
Set it up so that everything is reinvested.
Go live your life.

>> No.14416183

>>14416012
Are you like Buffet? You're posting anime on a basket weaving forum, we both know neither of us are.

The people who are .01% would not come to /biz/ in the first place because they spend literally all day and all night reading books on investing or company annual reports. They would also work at one of the top banks or be running their own investing company to reduce tax which they would have funded with their returns. They never need to talk to anyone else or want to do anything else but invest. I remember one article of a former UBS investment banker who moved to Hong Kong, he set up his own little company, a one man show, and gets 20% compounded return every year. Does that sound like something you will ever do? I know I wouldnt. I waste too much time on life.

Buffet and Dalio just as examples would wake up first thing in the morning and read 3+ newspapers, spend all day reading annual reports, and even when they got home would spend all night reading. There are endless photos of Buffet at the table at dinner; reading another report or newspaper. That level of dedication is beyond most mortals.

Even if you just spend a few hours a week playing games, or working out, or going on dates. You're not the .01%. The amount of knowledge, time and energy required to actually pick the right stocks is a life times worth of effort, not a few hours you throw down here and there. And anyway, most people are not born with that level of skill or temperament. You need to be in part soulless, unmovable to what everyone else says or thinks, able to make a decision based off logic and stick with it for years or even decades to return.

I know im not that person, but thankfully you can get filthy rich by being lazy with indexes. Buy one index tracking ETF, put as much savings into it as you can, set dividends to reinvest and hold no matter what. I can already tell you that in nine years ill have a millions dollars saved.

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>>14416010
i'll give that book a read

>>14416013
i have all the free time in the world as of now and enjoy having something to be dedicated to. where should i start in terms of learning?

>>14416078
would rather actively manage funds, i'm set on passive income

>> No.14416285

>>14416012
>>14416183
Damn character limit. Anyway, I already know when ill make my first million dollars.
>138,000AUD
>60,000 annual contribution
>9.56% yield annually
>0.14% fee
After nine years ill have $1.1M with 9,500 in fees, not including any other assets/fiat I will have. From that point, the next million will take less time, that's the joy of compounding. The more money you have the more money you can make.

I dont even need to think about it. Recession, boom, doesn't matter. In the long run countries grow. Even through multiple world wars, depressions and everything the SP500 grew, as did the ASX. The beauty of an index is that its investing in the best of a country, and as long as that country is around and growing it will be fine. Sure, GDP is slow right now globally, its been slow before, it might get slower, it might get faster. I find that people who make a life in trying to predict the future dont have a very long life, I know that through some of the worst catastrophes of the last hundred years markets have always recovered. There is a sovereign risk of something going horrible wrong for sure, but that risk is very small considering the disasters which stock markets have weathered. Had you purchased on the day before the 2008 crash, you would have recovered everything and then gone on to make hundreds of percent in yield, I think it was around 700% up to today.

I think fundamentally envy drives people to be greedy and markets will be around forever because of that, or at least as long as im alive. And shit once im dead I wont care anyway.

>> No.14416294

>>14415931
>>14415858
>>14415796
it's not one or the other. there's solid evidence behind the long term benefits of international diversification. it's on Bogle's website.
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Domestic/International

>> No.14416391

>>14416192
>i have all the free time in the world as of now and enjoy having something to be dedicated to. where should i start in terms of learning?
Well if you like reading

Benjamin graham, the intelligent investor (this is the book Buffet based his whole life on, Graham was his profession in college)
Bogel, the clash of cultures investment vs speculation
Philip A. Fisher, common stocks and uncommon profits
Graham and Dodd, security analysis

There are three guys you should read everything you can find about, Warren Buffet is obviously one. Ray Dalio manages one of the largest and most successful funds in the world. John Bogle invented index investing and pissed off the entire investing world by proving they were full of shit, guy is a hero for the average investor. Charlie Munger is also fucking amazing, hes the most no-bullshit person I have ever seen. Hes Buffets business partner.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c31Iu8ZXsbw
This is a short version of one of his lectures, the hour long version is on youtube.

Google them, read about them, learn everything you can. These three guys are just down to earth honest and give solid advice whether it benefits them or not. Investing is a world filled with charlatans and hacks, start with these three so you recognize what real investors are.

>> No.14416476

>>14416294
Thats not his website, its a fan website.

He himself never promoted the idea of investing in foreign countries.
https://www.morningstar.com/videos/885739/why-jack-bogle-doesnt-own-nonus-stocks.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvgptl5-Kcc

Of course you can put some money in a international ETF, but its not necessary if you're comfortable your domestic choice is better. Tax and currency are key issue here as well.

>> No.14416519

>>14416476
>>14416294
I mean I guess ironically I have to point out im invested only in Australia. But that's because tax/currency wise I will be far better off sticking here than investing in the SP500.

But if I was American I would just dump every cent I owned into the SP500 and call it quits. You lucky fuckers have the best economy in the world in terms of diversity, growth and future potential and you get it at a fee of god damn 0.03% P/A. I have to pay 0.14% P/A for my equivalent.

Man all we have is rocks, banks and emus down here.

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I agree

FUCK other countries

>>14416519
is there some kind of Emu investment vector I can take? some kind of Emu farming company I can buy OTC? I feel like I'm sitting on NO Emu exposure right now, meaning I'm not properly diversified

>> No.14416627

>>14416183
The poster you are responding to is a third rate impersonator of a thread personality. It should not be acknowledged or responded to. If it used a trip it could be filtered, but sadly this is not an option.

Do not waste your time. You are hurting us all by giving it (you)’s, even though your intentions are good.

>> No.14416662

>>14416519
>>14416391

There are points in time where buying stocks is a bad idea.

1929.

1970s.

2007/2008.

In the first two instances, you would have been holding for a decade just make your money back. If you bought the ASX 200 in 2007, you still wouldn't have made any money.

We have to use metrics of historical valuation for stocks as an indicator on when to buy, and historically stocks in the USA have never been this high EXCEPT for the tech bubble of 2000.

When these once-in-a-decade events happen, markets get bent to the negative sentiment and provide opportunities for those quick, lucky and smart enough to be in a particular trade.

You never know when a top is in and you'll never know when a bottom is in. All you can do is an educated guess based on previous metrics.

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>>14413232
lmao just buy exceptional companies for a reasonable price

>> No.14416778

>>14413172
Look into what “yield on cost” is

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>>14416063
Nikkinikki my 15.00 limit sell for BWL/A (which I forgot about) hit and now my shares are gone! I profited but wtf now I have to go through the hassle of buying more! I didn't think it would hit, god damn it

>> No.14416863

I keep reading about QYLD and it seems like it's a solid investment to keep throwing money at. It doesn't grow as much as ETFs that mimic an index like spy but the dividend yield seems to cover that since the dividend yield is around 10%. Should I just put money in that instead of an index like voo, spy, or something similar. I'd reinvest the dividends back into QYLD for that compound interest of course. I'm turning 25 next month so I'm looking for some long term investing options.

>> No.14416880

>>14411568
You spelled her name incorrectly and that gun is going to hit her square in the face.

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>>14416730
no

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>>14416863
short term:
QYLD
long term:
VTI

just buy both, and gold, sliver, productive real estate, SGMO, and CMG puts

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>>14416843
yes, everytime my Bowling ball sells go through I feel like pure garbage

but, the buy orders will go through again when you least expect it, followed by Euphoria

>> No.14417004

>>14416662
Yyou're looking at the value of the market rather than the accumulation value of the market.

The ASX for example is many times higher than it was, had you purchase 2008.

>> No.14417011

>>14416908
Why not go long term on VQLY? Wouldn't the compounding interest be worth it in the long term? I'm not disregarding your advice I'm just curious and want to learn some more.

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Rip in peace

>> No.14417032

>>14416546
>is there some kind of Emu investment vector I can take? some kind of Emu farming company I can buy OTC? I feel like I'm sitting on NO Emu exposure right now, meaning I'm not properly diversified
There is the EMU index but unfortunately only Emus can find it, let alone invest in it. Its very racist I know.

>>14413232
>>14416730
>>14416902
Kek

But seriously though. Stock picking is a losers game.

>> No.14417034

>>14412168
This post aged badly. Yang did terrible. He got laughed at by the audience.

>> No.14417042

$2000 bucks, don't really know, don't really care, I'm basically done with life. Give me a meme

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>>14416519
>>14416476
I completely forgot he said that since it doesn't seem to line up with the rest of his legacy. the revelation that index funds brought was that people are shit at picking winners better than the market, and international stocks are a part of the market.
then there's the "free lunch" of diversification which is backed by it's own body of research. but I guess Bogle never looked into anything past what he created.
>Man all we have is rocks, banks and emus down here.
doesn't your country hold the record for longest consecutive period of economic growth or something like that?

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>>14417034
should have just yelled the lyrics of rack city bitch before producing wads of hunnits from his pockets and throwing them into the audience. Trump has proven the election is nothing more than showmanship and hucksterism, Yang had the chance to unleash a new political paradigm. Wtf was that bullshit about Russia being our geopolitical enemy?

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>>14417011
VQLY isn't a ticker

QYLD is kind of difficult to backtest, and doesn't have even 10 years under it's belt, but suffice to say it should underperform QQQ in the long term.
QQQ or SPY still gives compounding gains, it's just that more of that compounding is growth in the company value and less is dividends.
However in the short term we have a lot more crab market ahead of us.
Feel free to disregard my opinion on anything, it is fine :)

>>14417032
>EMU
>It's European Index

Ewwwwwwwwwwwww European equities gross

>>14417042
SGMO and 2020 CMG puts, equal weight
we'll show you how to live again ! I believe in you !

>> No.14417113

>>14417097
Can I do puts on Fidelity? I haven't even tried, my gambling account is normally on Robin Hood

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>>14416183
Me no want trip on you guy
The fact you think me imposter RKG just shows how far me come from pathetic death bed girl to LITTERAL human manespgeststion of the market me am today.

DONT DISCOUNT YOURSELF
comfy
Obsessed
Ratsu
Pandicklum
Even freaking LCI gut

THEY ALL POSSESS POWERS IN THE MARKET GREATER THAN MOST
Me no discount seld just for posting here
We are greatness that am never going be understooding

Me /am a god/ who haven't had SINGLE losing trade in 5 months
Me SHIT on Buffet
Me currently winning profit % am in 100000000
Have made more money last month than most world sees In life

ME AM THE MARKET
ME GAINED THIS PRIVILEGE FROM USING ALL SOUL BETWEEN LITTERALLY LIFE AND DEAD FOR PURE LOVE AND GRATITUDE OF TRADING

WHEN YPU TALK TP ME YPU TALKING TO GOD INCARNATE

Me no longer human
Death am where me live
Horror and despair me comforters

Me exist is maggot filled world of probably, blood, percentage and greed

When me post you should threat me words like holy relics because me greater than .o1%
Or even .00000001

Me tetrations beyond human understooding

>> No.14417147

>he doubted GALT

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>>14417113
>Can I do puts on Fidelity

I don't even have fidelity but I'm pretty sure the answer is yes
https://www.fidelity.com/customer-service/how-to-add-options-trading-to-your-account
https://www.fidelity.com/learning-center/investment-products/options/buying-puts-video

>> No.14417157

>>14417147
They caught the GALT man
https://www.kttn.com/galt-man-arrested-on-tampering-allegation/

It's all over now, the GALT tampering is finished. GALT to 30 EoY

>> No.14417162

>>14417114
yeah you tell em girl
this is Stock Market General,
not Basics of retirement General

>> No.14417201

>>14417079
>doesn't your country hold the record for longest consecutive period of economic growth or something like that?
TWENTY SEVEN YEARS BABY

Even ignoring those twenty seven Australia did really well though. Thats why im fine with its index. Also every single cent of our forced retirement funds are now tied into the stockmarket, if the market goes down the total retirement equity of everyone goes down too, no Australian government can afford to do anything but grow the market as much as possible or they are fucked.

Basically I have a free guarantee from every single future government that they will make sure the stock market goes up, or else.

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>>14416662
>In the first two instances, you would have been holding for a decade just make your money back. If you bought the ASX 200 in 2007, you still wouldn't have made any money.
Forgot to post this.

Important lesson of the day: There are two main types of indexes, the one you look at all the time is the price index, which only tracks the price. But the actual value of a nations index is shown better in the accumulation index which includes reinvested dividends.

Also important lesson: tax advantages, franking credits and other benefits are not included. Had you purchased the ASX300 on the peak before the crash you would have actually made your money back sooner than this graph shows because it does not take franking credits into account (all dividend income taxed over 30% is refunded back to you).

>> No.14417334

>>14417097
Don't know why it auto corrected to that, sorry. I appreciate you taking the time to write that out, I'll keep your advice in mind. Thanks!

>> No.14417498

>>14417034
>got laughed at by the audience
When?
For what?

He really did terribly though, I will now have to stop telling people that I like him. He must really not care about the election if he didn’t prepare some other talking points besides the freedom dividend.

I like the trickle-up economy theory, it makes a lot of sense, even if it’s a terrible metaphor. Should be reworked, Like a plant drawing water up through its roots, something like that.

Goddamn, seriously why was he so disappointing.

Everyone today sucked I’ve now decided I don’t dislike warren nearly as much. I mean, she can’t be as bad as gillebrand or that guy who kept insisting that Biden is too old and saying that his generation is ready to take he wheel. Jesus dude, we got it, he’s old, now tell us what the fuck you’ve accomplished instead of trying to use your youth to your advantage.

Terrible crop of candidates. Terribly disappointed that this is the best they could do. So disappointed in Yang.

>> No.14417565

>>14417096
Oh yeah, I forgot that part where he said we should be working together with China on AI or something.

Wow dude, way to seem like a plant. Absolutely not what I would do if I were the ONLY Asian American candidate.

And just really offputting since China is trying to challenge us for global hegemony.

>>14417114
Post proof of remission

>> No.14417634

>>14416391
will get my hands on a copy of these books, thanks a lot man appreciate it

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>futures

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>>14411587
i've been longtime acb and now i'm scared

>> No.14417704

Here's a HOT TIP that I haven't seen anybody post about yet. Guangshen Railway. I saw a Chinese guy speak well of it on YouTube. Personally, I think the idea of owning railway stocks is really comfy.
https://youtu.be/woy1p4Rv3pM

A Morningstar analyst gave it a $37 fair value price if you want an outside opinion. I'm planning to do some more reading about it in the meantime while I save up money over the next month or two for stocks. I expect there will be plenty of time to get in.

>> No.14417786

>>14417079
>doesn't your country hold the record for longest consecutive period of economic growth or something like that?
Yes, because we've been a testing ground for modern experimental economic theory about a decade ahead of the rest of the world.
And it's worked excellently according to the metrics the policy is designed to manipulate.
But cost of living is way up and GDP in per-capita terms is a disaster.

Gold reaching a new all time high is a bad sign.

>> No.14417808

>>14417786
>gold reaching a new all time high
What? When?

Also I’m pretty sure your ceaseless economic expansion is due, at least in part, to your government criminalizing DFC and making sure all grown men chase big tiddy hucow prime breeding material.

>> No.14417864

>>14411732
boomer detected LOL. If you guy index funds you're a retard! Put all your money into crypo boomer man! It's gonna be $100k EOY, and LINK is gonna be $1k EOY! Boomer COPE lol. Buy the dip and never sell! We're all gonna get lambos except you, boomer!

>> No.14417914

>>14417864
Boomers literally don’t save or invest their own money. They are why we have a mounting national debt. They voted for loose monetary policy. They voted for the lax financial regulation that led to the financial crisis. As they retire, you can expect that they will vote for increasing government spending on their social security and Medicare, and leave the next generations with the bill.

Boomers are going to be the greatest recipients of gibs the world has ever seen. Mark my words, crypto child.

>> No.14418000

>>14417498
Swallwell, that guy, he should’ve just shut the fuck up.

And the author woman? What the fuck? Who let a child on to the stage while the adults were talking?

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>>14418000
>while the adults were talking
I only watched the first 10 minutes or so but I wouldn't characterize it like that lol

>>14417914
>>Boomers are going to be the greatest recipients of gibs the world has ever seen.
in many ways they already are

>> No.14418146

>>14417808
>What?
In Australian dollars.

inflation cost of living dollar collapse
bitcoin and gold are my only escape

>prime breeding material.
I guess that's why our population growth is outpacing our nominal GDP.

>>14417914
>They voted for the lax financial regulation that led to the financial crisis.
To me it seems like the govvy guaranteeing deposits created a nasty moral hazard. And first home buyer schemes pushed them over the edge.

>> No.14418213

>>14418146
>our population growth is outpacing our nominal GDP.
God. The US and Japan would KILL for that. Japan is actually trying to court immigrants to solve their demographic crisis.

I thought it was the subprime mortgage lending combined with credit default swaps that fucked us up, or something like that.

>> No.14418333

>>14418213
Yeah, the banks were taking on way too much risk.
Once deposits were guaranteed, consumers have no reasons to store their 'savings' with a solid bank. The banks can do as much as they want without scaring off customers. So they drastically increase the portion of high risk loans and other activities. Then first home buyer schemes required the banks to increase their already high proportion of high risk loans even further.

We have a similar situation here in Aus, we just got out of a Royal Commission into banking. One of the outcomes was that one of our big 4 banks had as many as 50% of it's home loans as 'interest only' loans.
Everything here is way more leveraged than it was in 2007.

>> No.14418407

>>14418333
Trips of trips!

Just remember to keep buying on the way down when it all goes to shit.

>> No.14418658

>>14418333
checkem

> One of the outcomes was that one of our big 4 banks had as many as 50% of it's home loans as 'interest only' loans.
Imagine when there is even the slightest downturn in industry or retail, people lose their jobs, and cant pay the interest. Then it will be clear that these loans are worth nothing, and the banks will need to be bailed.

>> No.14418781

Dow futures neon green. No idea why Boeing/Dow is bouncing back so hard. They fucked up so hard that it’s actually going to present a real problem for the Us economy. One of those planes is what, thousands of cars worth of GDP/Exports?

>> No.14418827

Any updates from Hong Kong anon lately?

>> No.14418845

>>14417261
If you're looking at accumulated charts the SP500TR broke even about 2 years before us. It also doesn't help that most of the ETFs for our index don't even pay fully franked dividends.

There are some good companies here and there in Aus (NEA or NWH for me), but a fair few are either heavily dependent on China or just trudge along with no attempt to make their business better (Telstra). Doesn't help we've got a bunch of shitty apartments that have gone up everywhere that might end up worthless like in Mascot.

>> No.14418890

>>14418827
nothing for a few days, I think he's still outside of Hong Kong for a few days?

>> No.14418977

any canadians here know a good site for a brokerage account?

>> No.14419233

>>14416183
>>14416285
Well you're the 0,1% of this board, I'll give you that. 99,9%of biz can't formulate a proper sentence that's longer than 5 words excluding the word chainlink. It seems like you've got it figured out, good luck!

>> No.14420120

late night page 9 bump

>> No.14420202

>>14418845
>It also doesn't help that most of the ETFs for our index don't even pay fully franked dividends.
I dont know about other indexes, but Vanguard pass on every franking credit they receive to the ETF holders. They give them out just before the next income tax is due so people can cash in the franking credits. I think about 30 to 40% of the ASX300 gives franking credits at varying levels. I would not like to be the guy who has to set up that excel spreadsheet, either way you do get them through some ETFs, just check which do and dont, and make sure you pick the ones which do.

I have set up my fathers investing account with more franking credit heavy stocks because hes in the top 45% tax bracket. He literally cant cash out without losing half his money to capital gains which is a real bitch. We had a 150k investment in Fortescue which double in value in a few months, but cashing it out would have been pointless because of the tax. But hes still predominately in VAS, just weighted towards high franking credit but reliable companies.

All up we've gotten his account up 20% in nine months for a $400,000 increase and $100,000 in dividends (reinvested). Not shabby for a 25 year old investor.

Heres hoping G20 is good, otherwise I reckon we're going to crash hard. Not that it matters too much since it'll recover eventually but still it would be nice if Trump got his thumb out his ass and stopped this trade war.

>> No.14420294

>>14418333
>Everything here is way more leveraged than it was in 2007.
What we dont have is a CDO or synthetic CDO scene though. The US was not just debt heavy, it had debt on its debt taking what was standard loans to massively leveraged positions, sometimes as much as 50 times.

Assuming there was a housing crash, and people stopped being able to pay their loans, the damage would be limited to the value of the debt current held by the banks and the onflow effect from them not releasing any new capital. We wouldn't have the nuclear detonation coming from the CDOs exploding whereby large institutional banks literally go from billions in assets to negative billions overnight as well. Apparently the total housing debt is 23 billion, its not actually that much money. Our GDP is 1.3 trillion, and while GDP is slowing (as it is globally) we have larger than expected population growth still which will keep our heads above water for a long time as long as that keeps happening. We also have a secret weapon which is the whole superannuation system, there is nothing stopping the government pulling up to 2 trillion dollars out of the super system and using it to prop up the market, promising to repay it later. Its one of those sovereign risks you have to always remember could happen.

>> No.14421063

>>14420202
Yeah Fortescue has been pretty good to me as well, especially with those recent dividends. You are right that on average the ASX has done pretty good now that I'm looking at it, still have some personal qualms about how the economy is weighted.
And even if the trade war gets pulled, if Trump gets what he wants it'll likely be a little bad for Australia. Ergo, China purchasing in the short term more from America than us, but that could be minimal.

With household debt, I think you're a bit off. I can't find a reliable single figure but take CBA, they've got ~450B in real-estate mortgages on their books from 2018 (https://quotes.wsj.com/AU/XASX/CBA/financials/annual/balance-sheet).). I suspect the total value is close to our GDP or above, ~1.5 trillion at a guess. It likely doesn't help most people who bought after 2016 are in negative equity.

Still, good to see some more aussies on this general.

>> No.14421113

33 dollar AMD calls are free money

>> No.14421281

>>14417864
How do you buy the lambo if you never sell?

>> No.14421313

Green Bull 30k!
D
O
W

Reply in this thread to spin the wheel of fortune and hope for the Green Bull to send the DOW to all-time high!

>> No.14421326

>>14417032
>Stock picking is a losers game.
How the whole game gonna be for losers? You don't even know how games work. Dumbass.

>> No.14421417
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>stocks

>> No.14421438
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14421438

>white people

>> No.14421583

>>14412217
Sorry, I went to bed, we're not actually totally sure when the results of the phase 1b 200mg trial are releasing but we do know phase 2 is set to start before Q4

>> No.14421678

>>14421417
gwim

>> No.14421802
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14421802

FUTURES

>> No.14421814

>>14420294
What is a CLO

The problem is now the fed is signaling they would rather go crab for 30 years like Japan rather than clean out the rotting unproductive firms.

>> No.14421931

Hey LCl guy, buckle up https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/lannett-enters-into-distribution-agreement-for-dantrolene-capsules-commences-product-launch-300876523.html

They got their distribution agreement

>> No.14421947

>>14421063
>still have some personal qualms about how the economy is weighted.
Cant wait until we run out of minerals thats going to be real great

>>14421326
Simply put you're too stupid for it. If you posted all proof of all transactions I could mathematically prove you're doing worse than the index. I know that because in a 15+ year period less than 0.1% of investors outperform the index. Its called the regression to the mean, and a combination of tax and fees slaps you below it.

>> No.14421974

I thought we were supposed to get a trade deal today.

>> No.14422027

>>14421931
This will surely contribute 1-2 cents to the price, very exciting

>> No.14422055

>>14417688
is that ben "al haddiqi" shapiro?

>> No.14422074
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>>14421974
I thought the meeting was ~19 hours from now
It's Friday night 10PM in Tokyo now, the meeting is a dinner meeting on Saturday


>>14422027
there is a background to that kind of deal. That is, LCI can give 'Elite Pharmaceuticals' some kind of assurance that they aren't going to go bankrupt in the next couple of weeks, which can be seen as good news for LCI.
Now that doesn't mean that they can't go bankrupt suddenly any time, but just that they probably won't

>> No.14422131

>>14422074
Well fuck, where's SNSS shill, what's the time frame we're looking at on this fucking drug trial?

>> No.14422140

>>14414364
it's never gonna happen so i wouldn't even bother worrying about it

>> No.14422146

>>14422131
See >>14421583

>> No.14422174

>>14415042
>As if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happned.

>> No.14422481
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>>14421947
>hurr durr everybody who plays this game loses
Whatever, retard. I'm sure that's how games work.

>> No.14422499

IT'S GONNA BE A GREEN DAY BOYS

>> No.14422500
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>>14411678
All in YRIV lets do this

>> No.14422520

>>14421947
C O P E

>> No.14422711

I told you faggots to buy MPAA a week ago! Hope you listened!!!

>> No.14422734

where is the VRUS poster? we're up big time today

>>14422711
I did not listen :)

>> No.14422768

>>14422711
>I hope you listened to some stranger on the internet and bought a stock you know nothing about for no reason without doing any research of their own

I hope nobody did this

>> No.14422787

>>14422768
your own*

>> No.14422828

>>14412043
PTN is gonna go through the roof my man. Second approved thot medicine of which the first was a flop. Hope this one's gonna do better even though they had a small increase in libido in the clinical trials lmao. I honestly have no idea how this was approved.

>> No.14422852

Welp, there go my AMD gains for today.

>> No.14422855

>>14422828
One thing to keep in mind as well is that Vylessi is an injection, not a pill
The idea is that it's injected once a week and the effects last throughout the week or something like that

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>>14411568
Absolute state of Trump.

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14422939

Tell me you guys listened when I shilled this earlier

>> No.14422960

>>14422896
This will get worse the higher corporate tax rates and stricter regulations become in the U.S. For now, Apple will just move its production to a country not affected by tarrifs.

>> No.14422985

>>14422896
that's like .001% of their business

>> No.14423041

>>14422768
are you an insufferable faggot in real life or is it just a larp

>> No.14423054
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14423054

IQ

>> No.14423066

>>14423041
Also IRL

>> No.14423075

>>14422939
volume is very low as well as price. I hope you sold or sell soon anon.

>> No.14423083

$SNSS LOXO's former CEO's hedge fund AISLING owns 7.6 million shares in this BTK Inhibitor stock. Going to $3 soon. Boston meetings must have gone well.. Expecting $3.00 stock in July...$ARQL

>> No.14423090

>>14422481
Your attempts in picking stocks proves me right and you know it.

>> No.14423095

CRAB DAY!

>> No.14423112

>>14423066
figured
>>14423083
This is what botposting looks like

>> No.14423121

>G-20 Preview
>9:31 AM ET, 06/27/2019 - Briefing.com
President Trump will meet with Chinese President XI at the G-20 meeting on Saturday. Mr. Trump will attend the G-20 with Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin, USTR Robert Lighthizer, Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross, and trade hawk Peter Navarro. ... If Mr. Trump decides to move forward with the tariffs, China will likely respond by putting tariffs on the rest of US exports to China, which will cover approximately $66 bln in goods. This would be negative for the following tickers along with the overall market: DF, LWAY, PM, MO, NKE, PG, NUE, X, AKS, AA, KALU, MAT, HAS, BG, ANDE, ADM, DE, WHR, M, WMT, XRT.President Trump will hold a press conference Saturday evening following his meetings.

What the fuck does china tariffs have to do with MO?

>> No.14423124

>>14423083
ARQL is currently $10.95 a share though. So it's going to fall to $3?

>> No.14423140

>>14423124
No sorry the ARQL there is because the guy wanted his post about SNSS to show up at ARQL as well to tell ARQL investors about it

>> No.14423141

>>14423112
this

>> No.14423159

>>14421814
See, the rotting, unproductive firms all donate to the right politicians so why would the politicians upset the slop bucket?

Japan is returning to a centralized, zaibatsu economy in order to prevent total de industrial implosion (aka Chinese Middle Kingdom mercantilism)

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>>14423121
What do Chinese Tariffs have to do with DF?
are they really exporting a significant amount of milk to China? can their share price really go any lower?

>> No.14423180

>>14423121
I guess they export cigs?

>> No.14423201

Is investing in tech-focused ETFs a good idea right now?

>> No.14423208

>>14423090
You have no information about my attempts picking stocks, so you're just talking out of your ass. Also, changing the subject since you started off talking about investing in general and now it's the imagined port of some rando on the internet. The absolute state of normie fud, lol. Bullish af

>> No.14423210

>>14423141
I am not a bot, I'm just an enthusiastic jackass who is making money and wants to give you guys a chance to do the same

>> No.14423221

>>14423180
But Altria (MO) is their US segment
Phillip Morris International (PM) is their international segment

>> No.14423228

>>14423210
So is SNSS the stock of choice?

>> No.14423281

>>14423228
I'm the guy who posted this >>14412043
but I'm at work instead of home now so my ID is different. SNSS is certainly my stock of choice right now, along with PTN, LCl, and DSKE, the last 2 because they are being artificially held down by bears and that is going to end soon. All 4 are green for me right now.

>> No.14423287
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14423287

>evangellion is on netflix
is it too late to long NFLX?

>> No.14423296

>>14423208
I know you're been unsuccessful because you refuse to post any evidence otherwise. You know once I look at your mismanaged use of funds, continuously buying and selling, losing to fees and taxes that you haven't achieved anything. And im not changing the subject, you claimed stock-picking was a winning strategy and it isn't. I can literally prove it to you with Little Book of Common Sense Investing, but I bet the last time you read a book was in school.

Maybe you should actually learn how investing works before you post next time kiddo, here is your last (you).

>> No.14423336

>>14423281
Neat. Bought 20 of each. Thanks anon.

>> No.14423355

Can someone please repost that copypasta about how I've come to the conclusion that none of you have any idea what you're doing, etc.?

>> No.14423363

>>14423355
warosu.org

>> No.14423365
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>>14423287
I would go short on NFLX at these prices, regardless of NGE
competition mounting from all corners

also 1.0+3.0 next year (supposedly). I need to re-watch the three rebuilds sometime this year


>>14423296
Ausbro, even if all the others in the thread are against you, I support your boomer message


>>14423355
I have slowly come to the terrible revelation that none of you know what the fuck you are doing. I have a Master's in Accountancy with a minor in Finance. I work for a fortune 100 as a corporate accountant with a CMA and CPA. I used to have some faith in anon. None of you know how to actually value a company. You can't read financial statements. For fuck's sake you think TA works and the entire field of decision science churns out dissertations every other day highlighting their absolute dismay at the fact that brainlets ever consider using it. You have no idea what Dunning-Kruger is. You don't know what survivorship bias is. You are fucked.

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>>14423365
>>also 1.0+3.0 next year (supposedly). I need to re-watch the three rebuilds sometime this year
it gets off the rails after he causes third impact (again)

first and second rebuild are fantastic though

also I'm halfway through first episode, i swear half the voice actors are wrong, or maybe its because its been years since ive seen it, idk

>> No.14423448

>>14423403
Anyone who thinks the rebuilds are (not) a continuation can choke on my Spear of Longinus and swallow my LCL.

>> No.14423465

>>14423296
>because you refuse to post any evidence otherwise
I don't have to post anything. You started off talking about stocks in general and then made up some shit about me personally. All you do is make shit up and change the subject and demand other people prove you wrong. Thanks for the (you), though.

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>>14423448
What's this about buying LCl?

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>>14423448
/spoiler/ I kind of like Mari (although she is no Misato)


Rebuild movies are great though, idk wtf movie number four is going to do though, making more EVA;s from angel corpses?

>> No.14423505

>>14423403
>also I'm halfway through first episode, i swear half the voice actors are wrong, or maybe its because its been years since ive seen it, idk
They changed the voice actors on netflix
https://www.gamespot.com/gallery/neon-genesis-evangelion-on-netflix-9-things-change/2900-2899/5/

>> No.14423545

>>14423201
Tech focused etfs basically track the nasdaq 100, it's definitely not immune if the us sharemarket shits the bed

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14423591

>>14423505
fuck i knew it, shinji sounds like even more of a whiny bitch (which i didnt think possible...)

all of them?

also, no frank sinatra for end credits? wtf

>> No.14423608

With this China swine flu thing are hog futures gonna go up?

>> No.14423633

>>14423608
Only if we get a trade deal and the chinks are allowed to buy our lean hogs again.

>> No.14423635

>same thread from yesterday
Stocks are a dead boomer meme

>> No.14423689

>>14423635
short /smg/

>> No.14423723
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14423723

Anyone still hodling LPTX? In with 1.66 average looking for 2.50

>> No.14423744

Apparently shorters are doing 100 lot sells below market price over and over again on SNSS to try to keep the value down because they are getting killed on it today.

>> No.14423757

>>14423545

Tech has the furthest to fall or the most to gain. It all depends on Trump's dealings with Xi this weekend.

If they kiss and make up, it's gonna be very green Monday.

If China tells Trump to get fucked, the opposite is true.

I think a 3% or 4% move in one day isn't off the table for the NASDAQ 100.

>> No.14423808

>>14423757
They're going to blow each other and the market's going to watch and cum shotted all the way to 3000 S&P 500.

>> No.14423824
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14423824

HOW TO PROFIT FROM RUSSLEL REBALANCE?

>>14423365
Now this anon is BASED AS FUCK.
Thanks fren.

And Bogle has an excellent argument and his wisdom should be heeded. My current thinking is that wealth should be allocated thusly:
60% Lowest fee Index funds, as much as possible in a Roth IRA
~10% Gold
~10% Cash (liquidity for buying dips and other opportunities)
<10% Crypto
<10% Stock Picking

However stock picking is fun and educational, and people are prone to want some control over their financial destiny.

>>14423363
This isn't my first day here, I already checked there. Couldn't find it because I couldn't remember the correct words, like revelation instead of conclusion. Thanks for nothing.

Warosu is better than archived.moe and yuki.la tho

>>14423723
I am, but I didn't DCA down after a point. You'll actually make some big money with an average of 1.66... I'll be lucky to break even.

>> No.14423885
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The market just looks so bullllish.

>> No.14423890

>>14423885
Coin flip on news this weekend

I'm full cash right now

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>>14423210
Oh, yeah. I didn't notice that you had more than one post. I was mostly saying it in jest so no worries.

Personally desu senpai, I think IQ is going to go up 100% in value this year at some point. So I would highly recommend that as well. It's a bigger company based in China, their version of netflix. I've been telling people on this board for about a year to get in or out of it. But maybe wait for the end of today to buy or Monday because Trump and Xi are going to be talking tomorrow about the trade deal. Hopefully good news.

I'll consider SNSS, but the low volume and price does concern me. I'll have to read more about what they do. You should look into Amarin. They're making a fish oil pill that has shown to decrease the risk of heart disease by 24% more than their competitors. That's a pretty big market, and I would imagine a lot of boomers will be taking their fish oil pill in the years to come. Only 6.19 billion dollar market cap, so it has room to almost double in the coming years.

>> No.14423909

>>14423633
FUCK DRMUP

>> No.14423917

>>14423808

If they do, Trump won't get his interest rate cut and he'll likely look weak on China.

I think he genuinely thinks tariffs are a good thing for the USA. He has been saying it for 30 years. I don't think he'll make a deal unless the Chinese give him what he wants.

God help me if I'm wrong.

>> No.14424011

Scenario;

>G20 inconclusive
>mid July
>Trump slaps more tariffs on China
>market shits itself
>next Fed meeting, Powell cuts rates
>maybe twice before December
>Trump does a Q4 deal with the Chinese
>market shoots off like a rocket

Trump knows he needs to juice the market during an election year.

>> No.14424047

God damn it. I blew my wad on MO waayyyyyyy too early.

>> No.14424062

>>14424011
Powell won't cut rates. He's got something to prove. He crashed the market last October and he'll do so again. The man is obviously incompetent.

>> No.14424096

Holy fuck this thread gets worse and worse every day.

>> No.14424116

>>14424096
That's why we have an IRC

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>>14424096
every week now...

>> No.14424222

>>14423824
We'll make it on LPTX man. If it hits 1.40 again I'm buying more otherwise just gonna ride it out

>> No.14424261

GALT, MRKR, and CATS are among the stocks I like that are being added to the Russell

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>>14424261
>Russell
russel 500, russel 2000, russel 50, russel 5000?

>> No.14424319

Fuck Cantor-Fitzgerald. ARWR was supposed to hit $30 today, not lose almost $2 after news yesterday of getting a drug fast tracked by the FDA.

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https://usda.library.cornell.edu/concern/publications/j098zb09z

acreage report in 1 min, any foodchads exited?
corn is poppin but i think it might be a trap

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>>14424096

>> No.14424633

>>14424503
Corn and wheat ftw

>> No.14424640

>>14424096
go all in an NAK

>> No.14424663

Yo what the fuck time is Kraft having their earnings call this is bullshit

>> No.14424671

>>14424633
>https://usda.library.cornell.edu/concern/publications/j098zb09z
i cant check it, bad internet
but corn is fuck super volatile, so that is nice

>> No.14424672

>>14424316
2000

>> No.14424700

>>14424515
LOL
>>14424663
It was supposed to be today but those ketchup bastards pushed it back AGAIN to July 5th. Short that shit

>> No.14424701

>>14424671
Corn acres went up. Loool

>> No.14424760

>>14424701
Forgot data was from June 1. Buy the dip!

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market might just puke after vertical climb marathon maybe hedge not bad idea... also especially for weekends would be long bitcorn (best trades usually pain trades)

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>>14424701
kinda makes sense considering what the USDAs policy has been this year. People planting even when the outlooks are slim
because hey, if the frost is late we have a normal harvest
and if it isn't then atleast they get the disaster money (usually more than pp lol)

>> No.14424826

>>14424760
wait now im confused, still getting "bad gateway" on the pdf...

>> No.14424853

>>14424826
Get the txt

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>>14424853
i wasn't in a hurry, so i figured out how to get the pdf
https://www.nass.usda.gov/Newsroom/Executive_Briefings/2019/06-28-2019.pdf

Planted Mil Ac 91.7
change from last estimate -1.2
change from last season +2.9

pic related kinda says it all imho desu
>nass is five miles high

>> No.14425082

>>14424774
Last weekend everybody bought bitcorns, this weekend everybody will sell bitcorns, 4th of July Bitcorns will be on sale for the low low price of 5 thousand dollars. It is at this time you should purchase these bitfuckers with the intention of selling them later for more money.

>> No.14425130

>>14425082
Are these bitcorns going any lower fren? Also what about chickens, should we buy those too?

>> No.14425132

How can we make money off of the deepnude phenomenon

>> No.14425206

>>14425130
chickens are at a low right now. the king is selling nuggets of chicken for the low low price of 10 for a dollar fifty. he's literally crashing the chicken prices to drive out competition. the colonel is fucking pissed, he's had to partner up with the cinnabon lady to sell biscuits to stay afloat.

>> No.14425235

>>14425132
It's time to short the thot index

>> No.14425238

>>14425132
long cock

>> No.14425255

>>14425082
10/10 post

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14425391

I did it, guys. I've finally broken even since I opened my Robinhood account at the end of April!

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Anons, what stock do I buy to hedge against China deal going wrong?

>>14425391
congrats fren! You're on your way to making it. Don't let bobo get you

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14425442

I did it, guys. I've finally broken even since I opened my Robinhood account at the end of April!

>> No.14425458

>>14425206
big if true

Heathcare for illegal immigrants will solve this issue though

>> No.14425467

>>14425436
That's strange, I was replying to this post.>>14425442

>> No.14425493

>>14425206
based

>> No.14425515

>>14425467
TIME LOOP

>> No.14425555

>>14425436
GLOB

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>>14425467
>>14425436
I posted the wrong image, so I deleted my first post and re-posted. You're not crazy. and thanks for the encouragement. We just need to keep this up, so 20 years later we can post back in the thread, showing that annoying Australian poster that we did end up beating the S&P 500 over the long term.

>> No.14425583

>>14425515
Shit we just shifted timelines to the one where everyone dies horribly

>> No.14425612

>>14424011
The Donald comes through with a deal. It's neither terrible or amazing. Market heads to new highs.

>> No.14425649

>>14425515
It is NOT a time loop. I am a perfectly ordinary poster, and I have a perfectly logical explanation for why those posts are out of sequence.

>> No.14425660

>>14423095
Rising snib.

>> No.14425664

>>14425583
Inb4 evil RKG

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>>14411568
>>14411609
That chick seems cool. Did Manson have her killed tho?

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>>14425649
> I have a perfectly logical explanation for why those posts are out of sequence
there is always a perfectly logical explanation
>deja vu
>misstake
>blindness at the gates

what you don't understand is that you were possesed by the time spirit and that those memories are not your own
you actually didn't post and delete, you have only been made to believe that
this is a pivot anons, something will happen (and soon) and it will change the world as we know it. It will all seem strange at first as we remember the original timeline (hell it wasn't even that) but soon those memories will be replaced
You will change and mold to fit this new timeline and the path it has for you

>> No.14425902 [DELETED] 

>>14425578
And thank me later

https://imgur.com/mFEIOP5

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>>14425442

>> No.14426462

So put everything into short calls ya?
On spy?

Now?

>> No.14426488

>>14426462
On a Friday afternoon? Why?

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>>14426488
Oh ya it is Friday. Ok but crash next week then??