/biz/ - Business & Finance

Remember to only create new threads AFTER the old one has reached its bump limit of 300 posts.

Exchange - Current Price 191 Satoshi:
https://coinedup.com/OrderBook?market=DOGE&base=BTC
https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/132
https://vircurex.com/welcome/index?alt=doge&base=btc
https://bter.com/trade/doge_btc
https://coinex.pw
https://www.swisscex.com/market
http://www.reddit.com/r/dogemarket

Buy DOGE with fiat:
http://vaultofsatoshi.com
https://www.kraken.com

Mining guide:
http://doges.org/index.php?topic=592.0
https://litecoin.info/Mining_hardware_comparison
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AlhSF602y9DSdHRneWVZcjJLWmhjaVBMTHVCR3l4eHc
http://rumorscity.com/2013/12/09/how-to-modify-video-bios-to-undervolt-gpu-in-linux

Pools:
http://fast-pool.com
http://doge.poolerino.com
http://doge.netcodepool.org
http://ypool.net
http://shitpost.asia
https://suchcoins.com
http://hashdogs.org
http://bigcryptopool.com
http://doge.st

Useful sites:
Blockchain:
http://dogechain.info/address/address.goes.here

Free doge:
http://kentbrew.github.io/dogefaucets

Miscellaneous:
http://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/cryptsy/dogebtc
http://dogemonitor.com
http://doge.yottabyte.nu
http://bluecoinstock.com/public/market/1
http://www.coinwarz.com/exchange-charts/dogecoin-exchange-rate-chart
http://www.dogetools.com/calc
http://cryptmarketcap.com
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogecoin
http://dogecoinpaperwallet.net
http://dogeprice.net
http://www.reddit.com/r/DogeNews
http://saydoge.com
http://flappydoge.net
http://www.dogebiz.net
http://www.dailydoge.org

Want the DOGE coin to succeed? This is how you can help:

Ask btc-e to add DOGE to their exchange:
http://hdbtce.kayako.com

Donate to the original doge owner:
http://www.reddit.com/r/dogecoin/1w7ouk

Join #do/g/ecoin at Rizon now.

UPDATE YOUR WALLET TO THE NEWEST VERSION(1.5.2): http://bamboohouse.info/release.zip

Bitcointalk: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=464476.0
Twitter: @panda_coin
Facebook: /pandacoin
Reddit: www.reddit.com/r/therealpandacoin/

Want to help PND?
Mintpal voting: https://www.mintpal.com/voting <- 3 votes/6 votes registered allowed per hour
Coin voting for charity: https://www.coinpayments.net/vote <- Vote for PND using BTC/LTC/DOGE
Coinwarz contact: http://www.coinwarz.com/contact <- Contact to list PND

Website: http://thepandacoin.net/

Released since: February 15, ~21 GMT

Wallet:
Binaries: https://github.com/pandacoin-official/binaries
Source: https://github.com/pandacoin-official/pandacoin

Pools:
http://bamboohouse.info - amDOGE's official pool (0.8% pool fee)
http://pandacoin.scryptominers.com (1% pool fee)
https://www.pandapool.info (0.5% pool fee)
http://poolesclosed.net/ Poole's Closed (0.5% pool fee)
http://wolongsucks.tk (1% pool fee)

Exchange:
https://www.swisscex.com
https://cryptorush.in
http://kryptokursy.pl/PND

Faucets:
https://www.pandapool.info/index.php?page=faucet

Mining Guides:
http://doges.org/index.php?topic=592.0
https://litecoin.info/Mining_hardware_comparison
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AlhSF602y9DSdHRneWVZcjJLWmhjaVBMTHVCR3l4eHc
http://rumorscity.com/2013/12/09/how-to-modify-video-bios-to-undervolt-gpu-in-linux

Mining Resources:
https://www.litecoinpool.org/minerconfig
http://bamboohouse.info/pandacoin.conf
http://pandachain.net

IRC: #officialpandacoin@freenode (webchat.freenode.net)

Rate my portfolio

>>143593
It's cute.

>>143593
Are these from faucets?

>>143593
Diverse but not worth much at all. I am worth more with only 3mPND.

>>143593
i like the diversity but not the amounts

>>143596
>getting #rekt by amDoge
nice

>>143588
>はい、はい!モナーコインは月を届きます!

Yes,! Mona Yes coin will reach the moon!

thats the spirit :3

>>143596
Thank you.

>>143598
I bought them with 0.00708073 BTC.

>>143601
What do you sugest?

>>143593
>Not having Doge,PND,Vert,Mint and Nyan only

>>143593
You can't even sell or withdraw that

>tfw we now closer to iCoin than Klondikecoin is to us.

I CAN TASTE THE VICTORY.

>>143607
Can you mine?

>>143607
what do you mean?

>>143603
>using rising sun flag

It's like you don't want chinks to buy Doge and drive up the price.

>>143613
Where can I vote again?

>>143620
https://www.coinpayments.net/vote

>>143614
I have 600k Doges, 200k PND and 0 Nyan.

>>143616
I have a 5870.

>>143617
What amount is necessary in each of those?

>>143603
>Dat google translate

>>143620
https://www.coinpayments.net/vote

If you can't pay, post a link for your transaction on pastebin.

I lost the ispiration at the end

>>143624
Get them worth at least .1BTC each otherwise they are kind of pointless.

>>143620
https://www.coinpayments.net/vote

It asks for ~530DOGE.
If you can't afford it or don't want to pay post the site containig the qr here or in a pastebin.

hello my name is sakamoto miharu.

if i want exchange of wealth monacoin to dogy coin how do i perform

great wishes
sakamoto miharu

I just voted. feel free to pay the sheckles because i can't. best I could do. :^)

ATTN MODS: This is not begging, we are voting for our coin and this site charges a voting free.

>>143642
I'm on it

>>143642
Wait, that's bitcoin.
I can only pay with DOGE, someone else do this.

>>143640

honorable sakamoto-san, you bring many shames by wanting trading glorious mona by waittu-piggu doge gaijin-coin, please don't return home

>>143642
I CALL ON GLORIOUS amDOGE TO PAY FOR THIS :3

>>143623
Thanks, voted.

>>143640
>sell mona at monatr.jp for btc
>send btc to cryptsy
>buy doge at cryptsy

>>143642
Make a new form for doge.

>>143672
Hold on.

Can anyone cover this? I can't ;_;

>>143651
死ぬ、バカ外人。

please provide only the reality answer

I really like paying vote for charity.
We profit and also do something good

>>143675

>Die, stupid foreigner.

1.5.3 is out.

>>143690
Changelog?

>>143675
ばか。。。失礼なことない下さい

>>143690
Did you manage to build it for OS X?

>>143593
too many round numbers.

>>143570
>what exactly is to prevent a regular scrypt asic from mining adaptive-n scrypt at roughly the same performance hit gpus get?
still curious about that question of mine.

>>143646

You got it? Let me know if you didn't so i can make a new form for doge.

>>143696
Nothing major. Just the bsize fix and a fixed locale.

>>143704
No, make a new form, I don't have any BTC offline.
Sorry, I should have made it clearer.

>>143707
Sadly not. I'm looking into gitian at the moment but that can take a while until I'm familiar with it/know how to use it.

Pay attention to our exchanges guy! We got a big ass wall on cryptorush@5 satoshi.

Thought you guys might like this

>>143728
Wait... Did they actually fucking do that? That is awful... Good for publicity, but awful...

>>143642
Made a new form to pay with doge. :^)

>>143728
>#getcovered

>>143712
Shame. Good luck!

>>143746
sent ;)

>>143737
Aaaaaand i forgot the screencap...

:^)

>>143698
阿呆ならば阿呆と呼ぶだろう.. 何か文句あるだ?

>>143669

thanks i will test to try this upon arrival (>.<)/

We were doing great on SwissCEX last night. Now there's a short wall on 6 Satoshi again. Friendly reminder<3

UPDATE

We are 1 vote behind iCoin now! Get to voting!
https://www.coinpayments.net/vote

>>143728

>>143751
These are short term changes. Let's see what happens when we coinpayments, exchanges and various other initiatives.

TIED WITH ICOIN.

WE MOON NOW.

>>143728
>dogecoin not mentioned in a word
people should stop thinking that posting a doge meme = publicity for dogecoin.

>>143768
WE PASSED iCoin! WE MOON NAOW

>>143756
It got there safe and sound as you can see. :^)

wich website do you use for exchange?

>>143769
it may not directly build publicity for Dogecoin, but it does make people think Doge is awesome, and when they find out it's a pretty successful coin, they'll be much more likely to accept it, because it'll basically be a household name.

>>143768
we 4 now

>>143778
Cryptsy,cryporush and swisscex.

Why do you ask?

coinpayments.net thing

http://pastebin.com/qQ0Hnikr

>>143797
I got this

>>143788
He's going to hack you :^)

>>143797
sent ;)

>my money finally arrived today on kraken
>price of doge went 20 sathoshi up, compared to yesterday

Fuck that shit, now I have to wait again. Thanks kraken

Mornin', gents.

>>143816
M'Fedora *Tips Lady*.

>>143811

Current windows build is available at:

http://bamboohouse.info/bin/pandacoin-qt-win32_1.5.3.zip

md5 checksum is 48b68cfc8db72a90ae01bbef6b8edb03 (http://bamboohouse.info/bin/pandacoin-qt-win32_1.5.3.md5))

This thing should fix most stuck transactions / late payouts.

Bye bye belicoin.

93 votes now

Would it be worth selling my PND for Doge because Doge is on the rise?

>>143776
>coin payments
>misread it as goim payments
Fucking /biz/.

>>143860
Right before PND gets on CoinPayments? I wouldn't advise it.

>>143856
Ouch

>>143856
always sad to see a coin die

>>143856
That didn't take long.

>>143887
>>143877
>>143875
>>143856

Guess you could say it's value beliflopped.

I just want to say beautiful work on the voting guys we're in 4th place at 93 right now! When I checked before bed we were at 13 or something. We probably need to be over 150 or so to truly be safe though, on that note I'm willing to donate enough to back 10 votes myself. Has amdoge put up an address for donations or anything yet?

>>143860
consider this,
for a 10% increase in doge at 200, it would need to go to 220 satoshi
at 5 satoshi for a 17% increase in PND, it would need to jump 1 satoshi.
one satoshi
one... satoshi.
one satoshi for a 17 % increase.

>>143902
Just claim people's votes when they post them.

>>143898
This. With all of the hype PND could well be worth 20 satoshi by this weekend.

Are we e-mailing moot about the "begging" rule?

Original artworks have dried up due to mod retardation.

Why the fuck is this shitty pleb tier altcoin associated with Doge threads?

>>143902
We donate sporadically whenever someone posts a link.

>>143917
amDOGE made it and we all contribute to pump it

>>143917
Pls. PND is battle hardened, having defeated Wololong.

>>143917
We're the coin that eats wolong for breakfast.

>>143917
We were created to protect DOGE from Wolong you dense cunt. Get on the train or get the fuck out

>>143932
wwwwwww

>>143917

>implying doge was never a shitty pleb tier altcoin

>>143788
wantetd to know if im the only one using mintpal

>>143942
楽しいです :3

Why does the bamboo house suck at finding blocks? Even with the new servers it sucks.

reddit community of PND wants to change the logo, if you guys are for or against, post.
I think we wan't a logo change but the right logo hasn't been created yet.

http://www.reddit.com/r/therealpandacoin/comments/1yzr3q/can_we_change_the_damn_coin_image_already/

>>143917
The divide between the DOGE and PND community has dissipated. We are partners, now. Abandon your stubbornness or kindly fuck off, Woloser.

Do you guys see this coin going up in value simply because the Chinese can relate to it moreso than Doge?

Hey, Whats everyone mining right now?

I've kinda lost track of what's good to mine.

Why is DOGE rising right now?If anything i tought it was gonna fall even harder with all the Mt Gox fiasco but instead both BTC and DOGE are rising, why is that?

>>143957
A new logo might not be a terrible idea, but all of the ones that have been made so far are shit. If someone with graphic design talent made a nice one I would be all for a change in logo.

>>143957
I don't think it's time to change yet. amDoge and another anon convinced me yesterday that we can still sell the coin with it's story. Maybe once we get bigger, but for now, the current logo could actually help us.

>>143967
asking why a coin does something is like asking why a dog does something

>>143975
I've been mining mainly PND with a little MONA on the side. Gotta give Japan a little love too.

>>143972
If that is true we need some copypasta to pass around that explains our coin.

>>143953
Yes, most likely.

>>143961

No not at all. I think its stupid to expect the Chinese will back it purely because you put a panda on it. That's like expecting American's to throw money hand over fist at BurgerCoin

>>143967
Because the panic is over. It dipped to $400 and is now rising. The dip was probably manufactured by the whales anyway. Nobody cares, really.

assistance needed

>>143983
How to mine Mona?

>>143986
THIS.

>>143995
>chinese developed BurgerCoin

id mine that with the force of a thousand suns

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=407705.7220

Top lel. The guy who runs Coinpayments posted in the Klondikecoin thread.

>>143975
PND has a lot of room to grow, I would mine it for a good while yet. It feels a lot like the early days of doge to me.

>>143998
is mintpal bad?

>We beat Flappycoin on Cryptsy.

About fucking time.

Cancercurecoin next.

>>143998
i like this picture

>>144009
It isn't bad but it isn't nearly as good as, say, Cryptorush or Swisscex

>>144007
Well, Klondikecoin is finished. Didn't take much.

>>143963
Lets make hundreds of different Big Vern Loves PND

>>144003
;_;
Should be long online again though.

>>144006
sent ;)

>>144000
Same way you mine anything else, find a pool, configure your miner.
>>143986
I thought there was an infograph on Reddit that did that...I could be wrong.

>>144022
what are the pros and cons?

>>143967
Because the democraps control the news mediums!

Pic is extended family.

So if I wanted to mine ANY decent amount of bitcoin what kind of rig would I need?

>>143986
This.

The world of cryptos is unregulated and volatile.

With crashes and theft commonplace, many people (media?) choose to focus on what's wrong with this world rather than the things that are so good about it.

Wolong stands for the drawbacks: scams, manipulation, lies and deceit.

PND is the counter. 0% premine and a fair launch, a supportive community and a strong message to wolong and his ilk that their mischief will not be tolerated, not without a fight from those on the good side.

>>144039
Higher trade volume. That is all you need to know to choose cryptorush over Mintpal

>>144052
several thousand dollar ASIC mining rigs. Unless you have some serious money to spend, it isn't really worth the effort. The difficulty is up into the billions.

>>144034
thanks nerd

>>144052
You can't unless you want to invest hundreds of thousands of dollars

>>144045
http://i.imgur.com/3yLFlOY.png

>>144063
Well that's not very nice.

>>144061

So an apt metaphor would be that PNDcoin is like a few bits of copper stored inside an egg shell and BTC is like a 50 meter cubed lump of titanium with a single 1 centimeter cubed lump of platinum in it?

>>143607
>What do you sugest?

invest in Doge and PND if you want

>>143957

It's confusing the shit out of people and hampering our progress, please for the love of god change it.

>>144075
I guess you could say it like that. Or you could just say "PND is a lot easier and more profitable to mine than BTC" haha

fuuaarkk we 4th now

Guys, what kind of specs do you need to mine coins well?

>>144063
why would you publicly proclaim yourself as a faggot?

>>144085
In the early days I thought that we should keep it, but I agree with this point of view now. I think we would more easily milk the wolong shit if we put it behind us and act like phase 2 already.

Plus this logo is fucking ugly.

We would need some talented folk on this to make a difference.

>>144039

Yeah mintpal is a ghost town. Last time I logged in a tumbleweed rolled across the screen. i wish them well though.

>>144063
reported for scamming

>>144087

Post speccy.

>>143895

Wait shit I got better!

More like belisideupcoin, AMIRITE?

>>144060
Well perhaps a copy pasta about our STORY wouldn't hurt then. That infograph helps with logical factors, but a little appeal to safety couldn't hurt.

>>144085

This is a good point actually

If we want less confusion for our coin we should try and make it more unique

>>144063

You got picked on again in school today, didn't you?

EVERYONE DON'T STOP VOTING ON COINPAYMENTS.NET

KLONDIKECOIN IS CATCHING UP TO US AND IS ONLY 5 VOTES BEHIND

I can't into photoshop/gimp but will donate generously for a well made logo.

Bout to trade 10000 doge for Panda, how much should PND should I be able to get with that?

>>143995
>That's like expecting American's to throw money hand over fist at BurgerCoin
>BurgerCoin

:-DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

>>144117
I guess I could get to work on one... I am not very good at logoing but I could give it a try.

>>144116
Klondikecoin is probably going to get disqualified because they were a little too arrogant with their vote brigading.

>>144022
>it isn't nearly as good as, say, Cryptorush

i heard cryptorush is worse

>>144123
about 10kDOGE worth of PND

>>144130
Play it safe now instead of being buttsad later

Convince me that PND ain't dead yet...
Not a troll, just curious.

>>144110
I'm a terrible storyteller, but it would be awesome to have a 3 paragraph story on the origins of PND and how it's evolved to the coin it is today

>>144103

i have a shitty laptop but was thinking about getting a nice PC.

i want to know what you guys have or what would be good enough.

>>144123

You get a better exchange rate deal if you convert the doge to btc then into pnd.

You can do all this on swisscex.com in a matter of minutes.

>>144134
It has higher trade volume... Also, I suggest you remove your PND address before you get b&

>>144138
>Gaining hype outside of 4chan
>About to be on Mintpal in 2 days
>Will be able to buy stuff directly with PND soon (Coinpayments)

Bro we're just getting started

>>143853
>>143853
>>143853
>>143853
>>143853

Remember everyone, upgrade your wallets.

>>143995
>I think its stupid to expect reddit will back it purely because you put a meme on it

oh wait

>>144149
No trades on known to me markets, its line is flat as a dead hobo's, therefore i see no interest for it in ppl.
Mintcoin seems more viable.

>>144088
>>144102
>>144115
|:-^)

>>144162
Volume on cryptorush has doubled in the last 24h.

>>144162
Why is Mint viable?
Sell it to me.

>>144139
A person going by the handle wolong built notoriety over the course of several months. Using capital from his friends, he manipulated cryptocurrency markets to his own gain. His efforts increased over time, as did his infamy on various sites including twitter, 4chan, bitcointalk, and on IRC channels. Some chose to follow him, and among them were winners and losers. Most were unaware, and caught blindsided by his manipulative antics. Eventually he developed a cult-like following, even having his new followers have to pay him just to enter his IRC chatroom! His options for manipulating markets was limited by his friends' capital, and by the fact that there were many other players in the markets. He thus decided to create/attach himself to a new coin, a coin named Pandacoin. This brought him attention he did not expect and did not want.

[cont'd]

>>144033

i only have 3000 PND. is this enough?

>>144170
Well, i'm not good at convincing people. However, it has better name and no confusion with three other currencies of identicla one, as it is with panda.
More people play with it (considering same time slot from their starts).
I like PoS a lil' bit more and mint coin deflation scheme (destroying fee instead of keeping it for the network).

>>144157
no

>DOGE IS KILL

>>144186
>it has better name

:3

http://pastebin.com/ugLnXinN
Coinpayments vote.

>>144172
Short term spike for me, we experienced those alreayd a few times.

Also I'm not against panda, I am with you with whole my small wallet. Just a bit sceptic.


What is a good GFX for mining Scrypt now? in terms of power efficiency, heat dissipation and initial price, i thought about 7950.

>>144206
I'm on it

>>144183
A group had been watching him manipulate markets and brag about it. We are that group. We did not like his tactics; they are toxic to the rise of cryptocurrency validity. His tactics are akin to the underhanded measures taken by those in control of the stock markets, FOREX market, precious metals market, and fiat currency in general. We noticed that there was already a Pandacoin in existence. It seemed a silly and foolish move for him to release a coin with a name already in existence, and it just so happens to be that silly is right up our alley! We decided to literally one up wolong and create the third Pandacoin.

[cont'd]

>>144206
Sent

>>144197
Normal ppl (and stupdi investors) won't put their money into SexCoin, they like their names. don't you think? Panda sounds a little bit childish.

Shitty attempt at replacing the fat panda ._.

>>144211
It's better than nothing but I don't really dig it... needs more emphasis on Wolongs profile as a scammer (criminal record) and manipulator (of people, not just of markets). And wishing for people's children to die.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-prosecutors-investigating-bitcoin-businesses-151635667.html


Oh snap

>>144218
No, people that pick investments based on names are senile and don't like money.
A clever investor researches their shit before buying.

>>144209
750 ti

>>144234
Exactly, but majority of our society, who supplies market with considerable amounts of non-return money, are those stupid fat ppl who believe in e-mail stock spam and put their life savings into it.

>>144225
What is that, a coin for ants?

>>144211
Also forgot to add, that Wolong wants to destroy DOGE (see twitter) and we created the coin to protect it.

>>144225
Wrong file

Should I sell 30k DOGE to get 1m PND before the price goes up?

>>144241
What is he so unhappy about?

>>144245

Jesus, you haven't done this yet?

>>144248
His species was used as a selling point for wolong's coin

>>144241
I really like it, did you draw that yourself or is it taken from somewhere and edited?

Some suggestions, maybe make the coin less yellowy and a little more goldy/bright or make the panda fur brighter/whiter

>>144211
We have seen, over and over, the creation of new cryptocurrencies with premines and IPOs, only to have the developers and first adopters quickly dump the entirety of their coins when they were added to an exchange. This damages the community as a whole, and a lot of people end up losing money over this. That is why our Pandacoin had zero premine. Zero premine is fair and prevents such greedy exploitation. We knew what wolong and his ilk were all about - manipulating the markets for their own short-term gain. It was obvious that they would not be able to remain cohesive and create a real currency with any semblance of community. It played out exactly as we expected, with the developers, wolong, and initial adopters turning on each other and dumping their coins, absolutely wrecking the price that they had inflated. They couldn't hold it together a week!

[cont'd]

>>144211
>they are toxic to the rise of cryptocurrency
>toxic
Old-hat. Rev up your buzzword machine and find a new one.

>>144245
DOGE is going up now, you need to make your own decision.

>>144236
Huh? I was told by many that Nvidia cards aren't good at all for minign purposes.

>>144258
Oh. I understand him.

>>144129
Someone get on this shit

>>144264
Oh it's that new cards, i see. Howeve ri look for something a bit older - cheaper that is so it will return faster.

>4th PND PandaCoin 97
>5th KDC KlondikeCoin 96
>5th ICN iCoin 96

We need more votes.
They're one vote apart from us.
Also iCoin suddendly going up that much is just bullshit.

i now own 2,5 million DOGE and 8 million PND


am i going to the moon?

>>144264
They weren't, but apparently Maxwell is pretty decent at it, and the card consumes far less than AMD's equivalent
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2014/02/20/nvidia-is-about-to-steal-the-cryptocurrency-mining-crown-from-amd/

>>144146

i cant mine, so i risk a ban

>>143917
Do/g/e is kill, reddit people used to frequent Doge threads, now they all left, only casual 4channers left shilling their shitcoin to each other

>>144279
And iCoin is up to 100.
Shit's rigged.

>>144271
>not putting everything into PND before it hits a big exchange
>not buying 69 million more PND

Dumb.

>>144227
I'm an pleb English major. I'll work on one a after class.

>>144289
:^) you aren't holding a bag so don't act like a shill

>>144289
I wouldn't completely agree. I'm gonna be buying equal parts PND and DOGE.

>>144254
Our initial goal was solely to expose wolong and his cronies for the cretins that they are. We had watched them mess with several coins which negatively affect many honest miners and traders. We have documentation of his twitter feed, bitcointalk posts, and IRC logs regarding his manipulation of dogecoin and other coins. He had no interest in fostering a community or building a long term viable currency. His only interest was in himself, and similar minded people followed him. We wanted to point this out to people who were not aware of his past so that they would not be bamboozled and lose money and time. Some took note of our warnings, but unfortunately many did not. In retrospect, we were clearly right, and our intitial goal was attained. Why stop there? We can do more! We have fostered a grass roots community of miners and traders who want an honest coin, without premines, without IPOs, without shady developers, without all of the toxicity that has sprung up in the cryptocurrency world.

[cont'd]

amDOGE how often do you roughly switch the coins you are mining? Do you switch short-term when a coin becomes profitable even if it's only for a few hours or do you generally stick with something for an extended amount of time?

>>144293

I have 44 million PND, so yes I am.

>>144253
I modified a pic obviously, but added the black line myself.

EVERYONE PANIC
iCoin JUMPED AHEAD OF US IN COINPAYMENT.NET AND WE ARE TIED WITH KLONDIKECOIN!
GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER

>>144277
Oh snap, it's even cheaper than 7950.

>>144183
>>144211
>>144254
Thanks lad

>>144227
It gives us a good platform to build on.

>>144299
o-ouch...

my condolences.. i will vote on coinpayment.net in your memory

>>144306
I try staying with coins I think that are good. Like litecoin, doge, mona and now panda. I sometimes switch to newly created coins to just have the first-in-line bonus.

BTW Guys, I have a very skilled friend artist, I could possibly get her to make us a hand-drawn unique coin design. I've had her work for me in the past for projects like private video game server loading screens and such.

She will probably not do it for completely free but if we gather some DOGE for her to exchange we should be fine.

I'm not sure if linking her deviantart here is a good idea though?

>>144321
>her

probably not.

>>144233

what if this helps legitimise bitcoin by letting it getting taxed

>>144321
>hand-drawn
not to confuse anyone, obviously she draws it digitally, what I meant with hand-drawn was original content

>>144320
I see, thanks! It's good to know I've been following the same strategy as a pro-miner

>>144331
We want a decentralized currency. If it is taxed, we lose that holding point

>>144330
Y so sexist? If anything, females are known to be better at creative/artistic work whereas males are better at that other shit (I forgot, something to do with which half of your brain is used more)

>>144335
>pro-miner

>>144296
The centralization and manipulation of monetary markets has created global problems. Wars have been fought. Poverty has been induced. We have been enslaved to debt while a select few families live in obscene opulence. Cryptocurrencies are a possible solution to this grave issue. Cryptocurrencies can restore the power to the people, to me, to you, to us.

Our Pandacoin is a step in that direction.

>>144320
amDoge
Can you make BurgerCoin?

>>144321
>linking her deviantart here is a good idea though?

if it has pics of herself then no

on the other hand its already public so i dont see the poit of not posting it anywhere

>bitcoin gets taxed
>everyone dumps their bitcoin and turns to dogecoin
>dogecoin now worth 1$

Hm. Think we could get the japs going along with us on pnd and doge?
mona could use more traction, we could use more support

>>144349
I'm surprised this doesn't exist already. At the moment I prefer getting to know pnd better.

>>144342
>y so
not reddit
>sexist
no, i meant it's probably a bad idea because sweaty neckbeards from 4chan will know how to contact her

>>144352

[facepalms internally]

if bitcoin gets taxed, EVERY coin gets taxed.

btw you have to pay taxes anyway, even now.

>>144352
they'll just tax cryptos on a whole anon

>>144342
>be me
>be trying to think of famous female artist
>cant think of any
>realize that every great artist was a man
>realize that most great chefs are men
>realize that men are better then women at everything, except maybe cleaning

>>144331
>what if this helps legitimise bitcoin by letting it getting taxed

>implying taxation as it stands is legitimate or necessary

>>144241

I kinda like this.

These are wastelands that need content:

http://www.reddit.com/r/girlsgonepandacoin/
http://www.reddit.com/r/boysgonepandacoin/

Shake your moneymakers.

>>144340

It will remain decentralized in most ways even if it gets taxed

>>144350
I guess you're right, don't do anything mean please, she's nice

Check out her "squishies" sub category or whatever, it's like chibi but drawn more realistically and less anime-ish, I think a Panda in that style would be perfect for a coin logo

http://tirael.deviantart.com/

>not buying this

>>144371
The second the government controls anything involved with the coin it becomes centralized.

>>144321
I'm pretty curious about her work now actually

>>144262
Does he appear a little less sad now?

>>144375
Link?

>>144366
That logic doesn't really work... just because an artist is famous doesn't mean he's skilled.

What if he got famous BECAUSE he was male in the first place? Especially in the early years, sexism was a huge thing, maybe there were tons of female artists that were just as good or better, but they didn't become popular because of their environment

I'm not a feminist btw, I've just observed females being better than males at drawing all my life (kindergarten, school, the internet)

5sat has fallen.

How are we on the votes situation? I'm still here to pay some doge, you know.

HOW MANY PANDAS DO YOU HAVE EVERYONE

inb4 thousands of millions :I

>>144283
atleast santa is still here

>>144375
100 doge to 1 troy ounce silver... no... i'd sell 100 doge for an oz of silver but no one would do that.

>>144389
>muh patriarchy

>>144392
5,000 :/

Today i finally got to half a million thanks to people tipping my OC :D

>>144392
150k
I only mined for a few days

>>144385
I think it has something to do with the eyes.

>>144392
1.6 million

>>144372
I think those look pretty good, I'd like to see her take on the logo as long as don't trust wolong stays. I can offer 5k doge towards this

>>144377

how are they gonna control something of which they have no power over

They can neither track transactions nor curb its supply. They can at most make it illegal in their own country

If they make it illegal then they stand to lose money a lot. But if they tax the Bitcoin conversion of fiat then they stand to make some money out of it

DAILY REMINDER THAT YOU HAVEN'T TAKEN YOUR DAILY DOSE IN A LONG WHILE

DON'T FORGET HOW FUN DECEMBER WAS, /g/oy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=H3oiThw2RxE

>>144392
3.5mPND

>>144375
i was thinking about how turning crypto into bullion could actually be a loss in long term should the value of the crypto grow exponentially more than that of the bullion

Relevant

http://www.reddit.com/r/CoinedUp/comments/1ylq9d/please_add_pandacoin_pnd_to_coinedup_0_premine_3/

amDOGE, please consider adding this to the OP for people to shill here. Could go a long way.

>>144385
>>144415

WHERE IS THE FUCKING CORRECTION?

>>144421
That is what people *don't* want. People want a currency that the government has *no* foot in. We don't want the government to be making money off of us. All they do is use it to help further the divide between the working class and the money hungry billionaires.

>>144415
Mmmh. I understand. Maybe there is a reason the expression "sad panda" exist

>>144427
TOP KEK

>>144430

Should I tip every one of those posters 1k panda or would that be tacky?

>>144438
people dont want this at all, fedora wielding autistic libertarians do. the majority of the world seems pretty content with the pseudo democratic social democratic oligarchy we got running right now

>>144419
Right, I'll throw the idea around for a while and see what other people think, if a logo change is to happen it should be a community decision

Can we have a monochrome Panda roaring for our logo?
You know like a sport's team's logo.

Anon here from last night with the 8 bit Dogecoin, but I made a PND coin too!

>>144444
>dem quads

>>144388
Soon on shibemint

>>144456

NIce! ...and sent ;)

>>144392
1.4 mil in one wallet
alot more in another

>>144438
if they dont legitimise it then bitcoin will be stopped by making it illegal to make transactions in it

exchanges would be inducted as well

>>144241
Post this on the subreddit right now. This is as good as it's going to get and it will never get this good again. I like it.

>>144427
precious metals markets are heavily manipulated.

i've seen estimates taking a $20 oz of silver to $1000, and i've seen a logical case made for $6000. silver is rarer than gold due to silver actually being used up for shit like tvs and missiles.

>>144469
The government wont do that though. They are in love with BTC just as much as anyone else. In fact, the FBI currently owns the largest Bitcoin wallet right now.

>>144422

I will NEVER forget the great doge december and even though I have some PND and some shitcoins of several flavours besides my doges, I will always be a shibe.

>>144473
Silvers time to shine (lol) will come when its scarcity rises... but I have no idea when thats gonna happen

I own like 25oz only :(

captcha searzak scarcely

>>144389
>maybe there were tons of female artists that were just as good or better, but they didn't become popular because of their environment

holy fucking shit people actually believe this?

this better be b8

>>144469
do you know what happens when they make the transfer of something between two consenting parties illegal?

it makes the price spike.

>>144479

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-prosecutors-investigating-bitcoin-businesses-151635667.html

>>144392

>>144480
mah nignog

[I AM IN NO WAY AFFILIATED WITH SANTA DOGE, PLEASE DO NOT GET BANNED FOR MY SAKE]

>>144392

>>144492
They are using that as an excuse to get more intimate with BTC. If they find that they "need to regulate BTC" they are in for a HUGE profit.

>>144486
sure, but where are you going to trade it for fiat

when you have no places to easily trade it into fiat demand drops

you can see this in the case of mt gox

>>144392
7million and counting.

>>144493
;____;

>>144392
I-It's not much...

>>144501
Speaking of fiat
What about moolah?
Any updates?

I bet you all forgot that mintpall still exist
https://www.mintpal.com/voting

It seems we are safe for now though

>>144502

>>144516
>>144516
>It seems we are safe for now though

that kind of attitude let ultracoin beat us last time

>>144501
with regards to cryptocurrencies, if all you care about is fiat, you are doing it wrong.

do you know how many billionaires exist? do you even know that there are trillionaires? do you not realize that they can come in at any given moment, buy up very large swaths of btc, and buy out alt coins at their leisure?

i realize it's like entering a sewer up to your neck, but spend some time in /pol/. i don't think you realize how the world works.

>>144522
>with regards to cryptocurrencies, if all you care about is fiat, you are doing it wrong.

BTC only has value if it can be exchanged for fiat as of now

if it cant be exchanged for real money then its worthless

>>144522

Wouldn't most people start abandoning cryptocurrencies if big wigs stepped in and started buying everything, devaluing the currencies until they're all effectively dead?

>>144392

BurgerCoin when?
:DDDDDD

what do you think of flappycoin?

>>144535
Abandoning? Hell no. If these filthy rich goyim wish to buy them all at any price, I'd hold for a while and dump everything I have at them for a good price.

>>144534
This hasn't been true for a while m8

you can buy cars, houses, etc directly with BTC.

>>144498
holy shit

>>144534
you don't know the difference between price and value. exchanging crypto for fiat is the price. for value, you need tangible goods and services. who gives a fuck if you can't get rothschild fiat for your cryptos if you can get food, clothing, and entertainment for it?

>>144535
yeah, that's kinda the reason for cryptos to begin with, as devaluing currencies is precisely what they've been doing to the us dollar and other fiats. that's why if i were to make a serious coin, i would not want it anywhere near fiat or btc. fbi owns a shit ton of btc, as do the winklevoss faggots.

let me engage cruise control for a moment. TANGIBLE GOODS AND SERVICES.

that's where it's truly at.

TANGIBLE GOODS AND SERVICES.

>>144557

Well yeah people would cash out but nobody would want to be in bed with a bunch of jews like Virgin Media, Bank of America and Google.

>>144534
BTC has a shitton of value on its own. That's the whole reason why it's worth so much in fiat. Can you not buy a 4Chan pass with BTC?

>>144567
thats pretty much where doge is going thankfully

I can already get amazon coupons for doge, and in my country amazon literally sells EVERYTHING, Id never need to buy anywhere else again (unless I want to catch a deal on something on another site)

>>144576

Scrub question:

What's a fiat? I take it we don't trade BTC for cars.

>>144562
>you can buy cars, houses, etc directly with BTC.

>>144567
>who gives a fuck if you can't get rothschild fiat for your cryptos if you can get food, clothing, and entertainment for it?

The only reason you are getting those things is because the seller believes he can get it in exchange for fiat, or hoard it for more fiat

Once you remove the ability to turn Bitcoin into fiat, you will find noone wanting to trade with it for goods or services

>>144469
Even if they try, it won't be hard at all to move cryptocurrency exchanges to the deepweb.

>>144587
>What's a fiat?

Paper money i.e regulated by each nation with its own currency

>>144587
fiat currency = actual money

>>144571
>ell yeah people would cash out but nobody would want to be in bed with a bunch of jews like Virgin Media, Bank of America and Google.

virgin, BoA, and jewgle are small fries.

federal reserve, ECB, BIS, those are the bigguns, and there are serious consequences for going against them. pic related.

you know those "dictators" we went and murdered in africa the past few years? guess why!

>>144598

deepweb sites can get closed once they become somewhat popular

>>144609

>>144599
>>144600

So why don't we just call it "real money"?

>>144589
>Once you remove the ability to turn Bitcoin into fiat, you will find noone wanting to trade with it for goods or services

no, people only want fiat because they can exchange it for goods and services, so if they accept crypto for their goods and service, and they can exchange that crypto for goods and services that they need, fiat can go fuck itself back to hell with the rothschilds et al.

>>144600
fiat is currency, legal tender, it is not lawful money.

>>144612
Because it's not real

>>144612

because i am too lazy to type two words everytime, fiat is just 4 letters and i can type it faster

>>144614
>fiat is currency, legal tender, it is not lawful money.

I don't even. So if I have fiat money and I try and spend it I'll get kicked in gnads by the police?

So how do I cash out a BTC into USD or GBP?

>>144609

Because they were maniacal fuckbags who gave children guns and demanded they shoot the white devil?

Yeah I'm kidding. I'm assuming they owned diamond/oil rich land and AMURRICA went in to "liberate the people" and also make off with huge buckets of precious materials.

>>144587
Don't listen to >>144600
That's terrible ideology. Fiat is the money that is regualted by governments (USD, EUR, Peso, Yen, etc.). Cryptocurrency is not regualted by government, which is why we want it to be considered "Real money", as Kupbihp over here put it, by merchants and consumers.

>>144375
>mfw 100Doge is worth 1oz silver soon

>>144614
>people only want fiat because they can exchange it for goods and services, so if they accept crypto for their goods and service, and they can exchange that crypto for goods and services that they need

hmm i think i am getting your point, but it ends up becoming sort of like a barter system. The value of BTC would become increasingly difficult to ascertain without fiat.

and its already difficult to ascertain it with fiat as it is

>>144624
Good lord that post was a mess. It took all of my laziness not to fix it.
*regulated
*regulated
*"actual money"

>>144308
lightningasic

>>144236
can I expect lower hash when I run cudaminer and cgminer for amdcards at the same time?

Are we going to need to ask /b/ to help us vote and post payment info?

>>144635

But if I go to a fiat trading site and give them a BTC in exchange for fiat currency then it becomes legal money I can actually use and can be taxed?

>>144641
>Can't "actually use" BTC
>BTC is a bad investment because it isn't taxed
>Implying implications

>>144621
>I'm assuming they owned diamond/oil rich land and AMURRICA went in to "liberate the people" and also make off with huge buckets of precious materials.

kennedy was killed for pic related. red seal united states note. this is a lot to get into, but i'll try to summarize. bankster families did a form of coup with the federal reserve act. what they do today, is magic up money from nothing and loan it to the us government AT INTEREST. kennedy had bypassed the rothschild/rockefellers/warburgs/etc and created a currency that was not based on debt. the dollars we use in america? those are based on debt. that's not money. true money is not debt.

when the usd was taken off the gold standard, it was tied to oil, thus the term petrodollar. what some of the guys in africa/middle east were doing was bypassing this system. there was an agreement forged with oil rich nations to exclusively trade oil for USDs, thus proping it up worldwide. the african/middle east leaders were started to take gold or other currencies for oil. this leads to knife in anus.

>>144660
>>144660
>>144660
>>144660
>>144660

>>144632
>but it ends up becoming sort of like a barter system.
that's exactly what fiat is. idk if you're a fellow americlap or if you're bongistanian, but check out related pic. forgive the crappiness, i don't own a good camera.

paper money was an IOU for real constitutional money - gold and silver. that's how paper money came to be - iou's for precious metals, which unfortunately led to fractional reserve banking and the rise of the rothschild banking cartel. the 1934 $5 bill i have says FIVE DOLLARS IN SILVER PAYABLE TO THE BEARER ON DEMAND. the actual dollars were the silver, the paper was just a convenient means to carry and redeem. it also says that it certifies that the silver is there on deposit. real stuff was there, it was not fiat. fiat is backed by nothing but faith.

the 1950 $20 bill says WILL PAY TO THE BEARER ON DEMAND TWENTY DOLLARS. again, it's an IOU. it's a NOTE. a federal reserve note.

today it's just pure NOTEs, backed by nothing really, operating on faith. it might seem convoluted and nonsensical, because it is. there are legal definitions for money, legal tender, notes, and all that. it's a lot to get into and it's crazy.

We 3GH again

>>144392
4.7m

How BTC do I need to be elite?

PrettyShitty time to introduce panda to the world when MtCocks just so much fucked up...