/biz/ - Business & Finance

Permanently stored historical weather records are actually pretty useful. During my PhD in atmospheric physics I had to pull a lot of strings to get access to them.

>>14334897
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKu9zSF52x4

>>14334897
Is this the end of Drumpf?

>>14334897
I just looked into this and although it's not 98%, it's more like 95%.
With that in mind.. I'm selling half of my BSV holding until they have other stuff going on. This feels too scammish for me.

Sirs I need to be having the weather so I know when to poo outside and avoid monsoon rains.

>>14334897
I bet it's pulling the weather in Mumbai too

The "weather app" is legit pretty dumb. They present it as some great achievement which is pretty pathetic desu

>>14334943
Historical records are already public

>>14334897
Even funnier is the fact the BSV sheep are bragging about this like it's revolutionary.

>>14334897
kek

Bitcoin Satoshi's Forecast

>>14334943
the absolute state of bsv shills

>>14335067
Hahaha. I can't imagine owning and supporting this absolute shitcoin.

>>14334897

Headlines soon: "98% of BSV's activity comes from a dumb server logging app.... EDI system... firewall service... IoT control system... voting system... sure they have TB blocks now but it's from some dumb media streaming company..."

>>14335067
top kek

>>14334897
As opposed to 98% of BTC's activity which is shitcoin trading. At least this is something with utility.

>>14335040
>it's not 98%, it's more like 95%
CREG SHALL SUE FOR THIS DEFAMATIUN
actually thought everyone knew this already, but then again, I appear to know more over this over-shilled POS pajeet-token than is absolutely necessary for any man. Roll on Friday. And The Beginning of The End. Fucking Finally

>>14335067

>>14334943
Post timestamped PhD larping faggot

>>14335052
>They present it as some great achievement
No, its just kinda neat.
>Historical records are already public
But not immutable, continue missing the point of Bitcoin though.

>>14335139
Writing 'I have a PhD' on his double D's won't really prove anything.

>>14335091
This guy gets it.

>>14334897
Miners don't care where transactions are coming from as long as they profit

>>14334897
It’s over goyim creg blight is finished

>>14335091
Storing things on the blockchain is a hype. Each time you submit something, you have to pay. Even if it's just cents, it adds up exponentially with heavy use. It's also slow because you're sending data over an internet connection instead of writing it directly to the database. These factors make it inefficient for professional use. Clearly a hype.

>>14335157
You receive them from a trusted source in both cases, so immutability doesn't matter. It matters in very specific cases (i.e. for content that is too dangerous to store elsewhere)

BUT CREIG IS SATOSHI!!!!!!!

I enjoy the weather app. I also increased my stack by posting asses on SV, kek.

>>14335230
Clearly. As long as you know.

>>14335230

With lightning network yes... with mesh layering wrong.

>>14335194
and whos the biggest (only) miner of this shit again, remind me ? Mr WeatherHIV app DGAF, he saf aint paying for dumping this shit. Be interested how much this fun would cost at 'commercial rates' tho
>And here ends WeatherHIV

>>14334943
Creg?

>>14335230

With bsv you’re only 2 transactions away max from any other transaction

>>14335230

There are a bazillion reasons companies need immutable data storage. EDI alone is a huge business. At scale the rate of writing data to the blockchain will be very cheap and more and more companies will want to use it over traditional web hosting. You could host all of youtube on it and they would save money.

It's not just the data storage costs. That is just one part of running a business. BSV takes care of so many things that companies spend a lot of extra money on.

>>14334897
Surprising to absolutely nobody.

BCH is a shitcoin, and BSV is spawned from a shitcoin. A shit that took a shit.

>>14335275
>You receive them from a trusted source
Those records can later be altered. The point is its stored forever on the blockchain where it can't be altered. Weather is just a simple implementation of things that can be stored. The fact that the information comes from a trusted source doesn't matter.

So for example: a police department is logging evidence from a crime scene. Each time an item is logged there is a hash/timestamp with a signature of the officer who logged it. This is invaluable to courts because they can go through and audit the evidence with full confidence that the evidence hasn't been fucked with and if it has it'll have the signature of the last person who did. Doesn't make it bulletproof, but you now have an immutable audit trail.

That's just off the top of my head. Apply that to anything else.

>>14335230
>be accounting firm
>log records into Bitcoin
>building burns down, get hacked/literally anything else that could compromise data
>lose nothing because everything is on the blockchain
>in fact don't even rebuild the office, just take the insurance money and have your employees work from home because your database is on Bitcoin and accessible from anywhere anyway

>>14335583
stop insulting shit. It's a valuable commodity in farming

>>14334897
Congrats on starting another FUD thread, it's not really making it any cheaper to buy in though.

Blockchain weather was always satoshis ultimate vision for bitcoin

>>14335517
Immutability is needed when the data is too dangerous to trust to anyone at all (even yourself). The obvious example is financial records, there are a few other use cases but they have nothing to do with "LMAO just store the internet as a side chain". For all other purposes there are cheaper and faster solutions.

Writing data to the blockchain will never be cheap (assuming that a few cents are still expensive for a single I/O operation) nor fast due to the nature of the blockchain. So these talks are meaningless.

>>14335104
Oh my god. My sides. How’s the weather in fucking delusionsville?

>>14334897
i hope the BSV moon bois sold their bags before it reaches zeros.

If its just one app why is the chart growing? Don't say the weather is changing more frequently lmao.
Corecucks are so desperate to fud.

>>14335598
To sign files cryptographically you don't have to upload them to the blockchain. If a file has been signed, you can verify that it hasn't been altered without gimmicks.

>>14335719
What's the zip code?

>>14335775
>tfw its only one app doing this
It's like the early days of smart phone apps. Just imagine the amount of transactions that will come with apps built with a two gigabyte blocksize coming next month.

>>14335778
I can't access those files anywhere in the world. Also if I use your method I have to store them. I don't want to store them. I also don't want to be responsible for securing them. I'd rather just pull the data from blockchain when I need it and not ever worry about maintaining said data.

>>14335881
I'm talking from the perspective of enterprises, they can't afford to spend several cents per I/O operation and deal with high latency for the questionable benefits of "being accessible by everyone everywhere". It's horribly inefficient.

>>14335881
This man is reaching levels of cope never before seen in this modern age.

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>>14336011

Why does biz and Reddit agree on this one thing, but nothing else? Is it not strange that vehement hate is shared by both factions?

>>14336024
have you got that one with 'we'll give 500 million Africuns custom smartphones, then, they'll all work for us ?'. I lieked that one. Truly, a visionary amongst us

>>14335702

I don't think people understand what happens when the internet becomes tied to a network like Bitcoin.

One of the major problems on the internet is actually finding useful data. Companies like google are already manipulating results for political reasons, social media companies are full of trolls and russian bots, fake news is everywhere.

With Metanet, every packet becomes assigned monetary value. The result is that the signal to noise ratio improves dramatically. You actually get the information you request instead of a bunch of ads, bots and invasion of privacy.

People ask, "who would pay money to use Twitter?" What they're not getting is that you actually make money now, provided you aren't a troll and make something of value.

Metanet/BSV will change literally everything that is done online.

>>14334897
toppest kek. Meanwhile you can buy a 4chan pass with BCH

>>14334943
cope.

>>14335054
BSV shills are low IQ. They read CSW and unwriter articles and it sounds academic to them but they don't really understand it so they think it must be genius

>>14336039
because they (creg & Calvin) are, at heart, all memes and jokes aside, a pair of wankers

>>14335967
It's not though. In the future all processes will likely be done on chain, but for now shit can be done locally and then saved on chain. The interval depends on the firm and the significance of the data.

If companies don't have use for it, then they don't have use for it. However EOD operations for a multinational or even regional could be made far less cumbersome with a simple transaction made by the branches instead of maintaining databases. Maintaining databases is a lot of overhead and headache.

>>14335230
I've worked in the noc for a large CDN and its unfathomable to me how anybody things "metanet" is a legitimate way to store your data. Its inefficient and slow and can never compete with a professional setup in speed or price.

>>14335778
>Just sign the altered file and replace the sig
Storing the sig on a blockchain makes it immutable and permanently accessible

>>14336171
This is an example of incredibly shallow thinking. "One of the major problems on the internet is actually finding useful data" - you can't philosophize about the blockchain with that level of argumentation. "Every packet becomes assigned monetary value" - it's the natural forces of the market, you can't direct it with wishful thinking. The masses clearly flock to free and easily available content over the alternatives.

>>14336248
my bad I thought this was a vidt thread
carry on

>>14336171
this is useless babble. If metanet succeeds you still need someone like google to index it in an actually efficient & fast database to search it

>>14335049
Underrated

>>14336216
Immutability. Somebody can remove something from a server through various means.

Once something has been put on a blockchain, that's it. It's not going away.

>>14336263

People can sell their data still and get a "free" experience. But, it will begin to become apparent to everyone (even "the masses") that there is no such thing as "free". The internet changed the way people think, this will too. Bitcoin won't fix everyone's lives but it will enable people to be more creative and productive online.

>>14335719
You know what’s funny about you corecucks? Tether can print 1 billion bitcoin tomorrow and your faggot ass wouldn’t utter a word, yet every little thing Craig does you look criticize like some broad on her period.

>>14334897
holy shit its a real website

>>14334943
Oh, you're a comedian

>>14336312

Bitcoin as a network is actually very efficient. It just uses a different way of processing information. Bitcoin is more like a biological system than the traditional computer networks we have seen in the past. From a certain point of view the human brain is incredibly inefficient and redundant, but it is ultimately much more powerful and robust than anything humans have designed in terms of computers.

The real efficiency that Bitcoin brings is one driven by economic forces and having everything connected to everything else. It is a completely different computing and information paradigm than we are used to.

>>14336329
so what? Do you thing instagram cares about immutability or on paying 1000x more for storung pictures? Big boys like cloudflare are literally laughing their ass off at this pipedream.
Once a file is on muh blockchain you still need a CDN to fetch and cache and deliver it from normal infrastructure. You pay orders of magnitude more for storage and still have to pay for bandwidth.

>>14336312
No shit, Sherlock. The difference is a premium service that doesn't control your data/shill ads to you. Alternatively you could opt for the "free" option, but if you haven't realized already nothing, not even 4chan is free. If you haven't bought a pass then you're working for Google for free.

>>14336438
You have no idea what you are talking about. For full text search on terabytes of data you need everything in ram at one location. If metanet actually succeeds(lmao) there will be services just like google indexing it.

There are amazing usecases for immutability, but storing every brainlets blog on it is not it.

>>14336447

At scale the cost to store data will be actually pretty small; on top of that, once a file is uploaded it can be accessed anywhere and won't need to be uploaded a second time. Compression techniques will be able to serve metanet pages with mere kilobytes of data.

With Metanet there is an incredible amount of savings due to no longer having to worry about DDoS protection and many, many other security and data protection issues. It just will work and its robustness will more than makeup for the cost of data storage.

>>14336463
It will still shill ads to you. Metanet would not change this

>>14336537
You still have to pay a CDN and those still need DDoS protection and everything that comes with traditional hosting.
Nobody will deliver a petabyte-sized blockchain for free. Once you upload something it will be there (for higher cost than normal hosting) but to fetch it will cost as well.

>>14336438
>>14336361
This is just PR talk. Not even related to the tech, in fact. Normies already have such things as Paypal, subscription sites, Patreon etc. I'll tell you one thing: people don't like paying for fluff, they like paying for hard, tangible goods. Otherwise every single site would have already had the "Pay with PayPal to access this content" button. Sorry, you've been promised shit that's pure baloney.

>>14336618
this

>>14336563
Why? Google would make more from people paying a 10th or maybe even a 100th of penny from each search than shilling ads. The ad market is actually extremely inefficient.

>>14334897
I agree storing arbitrary data in the blockchain is just dumb and wasteful. we don't need every piece of junk data logged forever for all to see. this is a shortcoming of bitcoin though it should have been made from the start to block crap like this from ever happening.

>>14336652
Nobody will pay for search, ever. If google introduces it users will go elsewhere.

>>14336713
we should have gigamegs and use them for applications that actually need immutability.

>>14336739
I said it would be optional. Google likely won't be the first to implement it anyway.

I'd happily pay a low fee for searches. Beats having all my data sold to kikes.

>>14336771
the truth is i think bitcoin (all variants) are doomed. they don't scale. there is no such thing as digital gold. it either can be used as money or it can't plain and simple. this shit is all just useless dead end tech that as far as i can tell has no other use outside of being a western union replacement at best. the only reason why people shill bitcoin so hard is because they are usually bag holders and they are just protecting their bags.

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I swear it is the same 3-4 people who fud BSV constantly on this board and that they are obviously paid blockstream discord trannies. Why would they else post here and fud every god damn day if they werent getting paid to do it? Its literally these guys jobs to try to psycho fuck with your head you into believing corecucks narratives. They know that the sentiment on boards like these matter because it spreads to Reddit and pleb social media sites(like all the link fud) , and if the general sentiment is that aussie man bad is not so bad after all on this board, then they are out of jobs and their discord Chanel will dissolve, and their employers net worth will go to zero or probably not since they are already soon going into BSV which is the real Bitcoin

>>14336913
topkek I keep having to hide low-effort pajeet threads by BSV streetshitters.
nice try

some day all of mankind's information will be stored within a single BSV block

>>14336739

They will pay a 10th of a cent if the results are actually higher quality and save them 1/10th of a cent of time. In all likelyhood, it will save them much more.

>>14337301
Something tells me you never use double quotes and other search syntax when searching for stuff, the way you complain about "poor search results" when talking about a completely unrelated matter kinda hints at that

>>14336913
bsv shillers are more delusional than bcashies
we are still waiting for BCH 1:1 parity with BTC
Imagine BSV which is half of BCH

>>14336171
>>14336438

Absolutely based

>>14336608
>>14336563
>>14336533

Fuck off Greg, think bigger for once

>>14335025

>>14336137

>>14336369
Because they are paid to. Attacking Craig is literally their jobs.

>>14337301
>>14337416
when i search white people on google i get pictures of black people
same for white courples i get mixed black/white couples
jewgle is low quality

>>14337605
Search “American inventors”

>>14334943
Muh global warming

>>14334897
Why do you care about BSV so much? I won't touch that project with a 10-foot poll but I dont go around talking about it?

>>14336618
No because Paypal can't do microtransactions. This is what you don't get. The future business model of the internet (ie Metanet) will be microtransactions. So every search you do will cost $0.05 . Every news article you read will cost $0.2 etc. Everything is going to be monetized and run on the Blockchain, which in time will replace the ad revenue business model completely.

This type of payment system is impossible with Paypal, in fact it is also impossible on cripplechains like BTC.

>>14337618
ye you just get pics of the peanut butter nigger

>>14336618
>I'll tell you one thing: people don't like paying for fluff
This is disproven entirely with one example: the existence, popularity, and profitably of video game loot boxes.

There are plenty of other examples but that's one of the most egregious.

>>14337737
Life is going to become Fortnite, people are going to beg for it, and it's going to run on BitCoin. (BSV)

Might as well accept it and make some money.

>>14336618
Nah honestly I would consider paying a cent or half a cent to read some exclusive article if it was good.
This is about having the free market decide what information has value.
Just look at any YouTube videos comment section, its filled with the most retarded shit and people, now lets say you had to pay .001 cent to post there, it would be filled with high quality high value comments.
It doesn't matter how little the micro payments cost, just that its not completely free. Imagine ad companies having to pay you in order to display ads or only getting something your actually into

>>14337656
BSV LIVES RENT FREE IN THEIR CORE KEK HEADS. ALL THEY CAN EVER THING OF IS HOW MUCH THEY HSTE CRAIG AND HOW HES NOTHING BUT A FRAUD. AHHHAHAJHAHAHHA

i'm gonna miss you vishnus

>>14337675
Websites do it by introducing user balances. You top up the balance with PayPal and then "spend" it. In reality, it doesn't work well: no one wants to pay for reading content, search queries etc. There are a few subscription sites here and there, but it's not getting massive traction. If it worked, you wouldn't need "Metanet" for that, it would have already been around.

>>14337789
Life is not video games.

>>14337812
There used to be social networks, forums etc. with paid membership, they're simply never getting traction. If this model was effective and profitable, everyone would have already implemented it just with PayPal.

>>14337940
It's not video games but it always was a game. Increasingly, wage slaves will see their work and associated compensation broken down into individual transactions. It's already happened and will only get more common. "Gameification"

>>14337940
Again, paypal can't do microtransactions. Nobody wants to pay 2 dollars for something trivial, but 2 cents is different. Not possible with paypal where everything below like $1 is not really feasible because of fees.

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>>14338063
I explained how it works: you top up the balance in your account in one click and then spend your cents on commenting and whatever you wish. As you can see, you don't necessarily need crypto for that, let alone a gigantic storage.

>>14338041
Whenever you can profit from gamification or otherwise premium features (like premium forum membership or paid listings on craigslist), you can get along without crypto, let alone "Metanet". That's the point.

>>14334943
Yes but it could just be a torrent

not satoshi

>>14338138
That doesn't actually work. You can't just spend a few cents in paypal. You have to transfer a balance from your account to the account of the seller. This transaction between two independent parties is what incurs a fee.

On Paypal it's somewhere around 50 cents to $1

On BSV it's $0.0005

>>14338597
Yes, a Paypal transaction incurs a fee (it's not fixed but rather a percentage), but it doesn't matter to normies. Whenever a website/app/game wants to implement some sort of gamification or premium content, it does the job.

>>14338664
paypal doesn't work everywhere pleb. where i live i can't move that shit to my bank account and it's not accepted on anything in the local market so nobody uses it.

>>14338693
That's the problem of the second/third world. It doesn't matter to businesses.

>>14338138
>just use fiat

Corecucks, everybody.

>>14338733
Well, you thought you're an innovator, I showed you're full of shit.

>>14334943
everyone is laffin, but this was my idea too. Shills underestimate the hard value of real world data.

>>14338755
>using paypal or visa is the same as using Bitcoin

Seriously, guy?

>>14338828
To normies, it is. They don't care about decentralization, untraceability and fees.

>>14338863
>They don't care about decentralization
I can't believe the retards I argue with on this Mongolian basket weaving forum. Pick related. The cost of centralization is war, high cost of living, market manipulation and control (basically communism, in fact central banking is a plank of communism). These are the things people complain about all the fucking time.

>untraceability
Again, you're retarded. Bitcoin is highly traceable.

>fees
Yes generally speaking people go out of their way to pay higher fees when they can. Give me a fucking break.

>>14338967
Get a life, fag. You're seething over trivial bullshit.

>>14337605
>when i search white people on google i get pictures of black people
It's almost like there's a show called "Dear White People" filled with black people that has infinitely more interest than generic searches for white people.
>same for white courples i get mixed black/white couples
Because there's a lot more interest in "white couple gives birth to black baby" or "black couple gives birth to white baby" than generic searches for white couples.
>>14337618
>Search “American inventors”
Maybe because "African-American Inventors" includes "American Inventors"? All search engines have shit like this, and if you search those terms in other languages i.e. "Inventor Americano" you get more white people.

>>14338997
>gets btfo
>g-get a life

>>14334943
SHUT THE FUCK UP AUSSIE MAN BAD REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>14338727
you think businesses don't want to use these services? i'm from the first world trying to do business here and it's a pain in the ass. your cope is showing

>>14337812
I watched an interview with jack lu or what ever of float SV. The interviewer was an older guy asking questions, he used the analogy of turning on your light switch. People pay for it without even caring. It will be the same. Jack was saying bringing your tray to the garbage would earn you some money. Like McDonald’s paying you maybe like .05$ or whatever for remedial tasks. Imagine doing trivial things and earning money constantly. There’s an app right now where if you see a “hiring now” sign you take a pic and get paid in amazon bucks. A bunch of shit will be like this. Bitcoin is the path to a new future. Any one disagreeing will be laughed at by the new generation. It’s like current gen laughing at computer illiterate boomers. Getting paid for doing a task, having a record of everything, no more paper verification, and a global computer called BitCoin. Money isn’t a store of value. Money is a denomination of the value created. Soon everything will have a price tag. Soon more things will be honest. Good bye future mom and pop shops that accept cash only. Good bye fraud yelp reviews. Good Bye criminals. Welcome to the next revelation in human history. Welcome to a better world. BitCoin.

>>14339187
B & R

>>14334897
Sweet ganesha what a shitstorm sirs

>>14334897