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How do you cope with this fact?

>> No.1424681

I mean we have to operate under the assumption that today isnt our last day on earth

theres shit thats got to get done

being rich or poor has nothing to do with it

oh yeah and god isnt real

>> No.1424685

this isn't a fact

Why do you keep making troll threads

>> No.1424687

>>1424678

>>1424681

This
>oh yeah and god isnt real

>> No.1424691

What does this even mean? "You could die at any moment so don't plan for the future?"
This doesn't have anything to do with wealth.

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>>1424681
and lying to yourself like that helps you cope?


Psalm 19:1King James Version (KJV)

19 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.


5 “Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink; or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothes? 26 Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they? 27 Can any one of you by worrying add a single hour to your life[e]?

28 “And why do you worry about clothes? See how the flowers of the field grow. They do not labor or spin. 29 Yet I tell you that not even Solomon in all his splendor was dressed like one of these. 30 If that is how God clothes the grass of the field, which is here today and tomorrow is thrown into the fire, will he not much more clothe you—you of little faith? 31 So do not worry, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’ 32 For the pagans run after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them. 33 But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well. 34 Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.

>> No.1424693

>>1424678
How do you cope knowing all stocks eventually end up zero?

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>>1424693
my faith in christ has never left me wanting for anything that i genuinely needed.

>> No.1424698

>>1424678
Even if you don't believe in God it's a good parable. It doesn't matter if you have all the wealth in the world if your life is meaningless.

>> No.1424699

>>1424697
>>1424692
t. guy who thinks the scientific method is freshman philosophy wank

>> No.1424703

>>1424692
>>1424697
The bible has so much contradicting shit in it that pretty much no one is actually living as G*d describes.

>> No.1424704

>>1424697
Sex is the best feeling in the world, though with god you have to abdon sex aye?

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>>1424699
plenty of scientist have and still do acknowledge the existence of God. You would know that if you had the curiosity to study a bit beyond your first year community college philosophy curriculum.

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>>1424704
>>1424703
4 What then shall we say that Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh, discovered in this matter? 2 If, in fact, Abraham was justified by works, he had something to boast about—but not before God. 3 What does Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness.”[a]

4 Now to the one who works, wages are not credited as a gift but as an obligation. 5 However, to the one who does not work but trusts God who justifies the ungodly, their faith is credited as righteousness. 6 David says the same thing when he speaks of the blessedness of the one to whom God credits righteousness apart from works:

7 “Blessed are those
whose transgressions are forgiven,
whose sins are covered.
8 Blessed is the one
whose sin the Lord will never count against them.”[b]
9 Is this blessedness only for the circumcised, or also for the uncircumcised? We have been saying that Abraham’s faith was credited to him as righteousness. 10 Under what circumstances was it credited? Was it after he was circumcised, or before? It was not after, but before! 11 And he received circumcision as a sign, a seal of the righteousness that he had by faith while he was still uncircumcised. So then, he is the father of all who believe but have not been circumcised, in order that righteousness might be credited to them. 12 And he is then also the father of the circumcised who not only are circumcised but who also follow in the footsteps of the faith that our father Abraham had before he was circumcised.

13 It was not through the law that Abraham and his offspring received the promise that he would be heir of the world, but through the righteousness that comes by faith. 14 For if those who depend on the law are heirs, faith means nothing and the promise is worthless, 15 because the law brings wrath. And where there is no law there is no transgression.

>> No.1424710

>>1424705
>plenty of scientist have and still do acknowledge the existence of God

They acknowledge a God, as in a creator, yes. But not a specific one

I believe in a God too but I don't think he cares if people are gay or help others, he's just a creator who doesn't care about what people do

>> No.1424712

>>1424705
I'm not an atheist and I've never taken a philosophy class.
You post comic panel edits where Mickey Mouse uses solipsism to dispute Donald Duck's assertion that all of life is chemical.
I'm the winner here, bro.

>> No.1424713

>>1424709

16 Therefore, the promise comes by faith, so that it may be by grace and may be guaranteed to all Abraham’s offspring—not only to those who are of the law but also to those who have the faith of Abraham. He is the father of us all. 17 As it is written: “I have made you a father of many nations.”[c] He is our father in the sight of God, in whom he believed—the God who gives life to the dead and calls into being things that were not.

18 Against all hope, Abraham in hope believed and so became the father of many nations, just as it had been said to him, “So shall your offspring be.”[d] 19 Without weakening in his faith, he faced the fact that his body was as good as dead—since he was about a hundred years old—and that Sarah’s womb was also dead. 20 Yet he did not waver through unbelief regarding the promise of God, but was strengthened in his faith and gave glory to God, 21 being fully persuaded that God had power to do what he had promised. 22 This is why “it was credited to him as righteousness.” 23 The words “it was credited to him” were written not for him alone, 24 but also for us, to whom God will credit righteousness—for us who believe in him who raised Jesus our Lord from the dead. 25 He was delivered over to death for our sins and was raised to life for our justification.

>> No.1424715

>>1424712
this was never a competition .

>>1424710
Why would a God of order and justice who created the laws of the universe not have concern for the law and wellbeing of man, his most complex creation?

>> No.1424718

>>1424715
>Why would a God of order and justice who created the laws of the universe

Because I don't think he did and I'm not convinced

>> No.1424721

>>1424715
Why would a God of order and justice allow Satan to lead men astray? That's not free will, it's entrapment.
If God is so insistent we follow His laws, why doesn't he send another profit to prove that he's real?

>> No.1424722

>>1424710

>They acknowledge a God, as in a creator, yes. But not a specific one

that is so ill informed btw.
a simple 5 seconds on google is all it took to refute that.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christians_in_science_and_technology

your apathy will never spare you from the consequences of your ignorance.

>> No.1424726

>>1424721
he sent me.

>> No.1424727

>>1424703
lol post 1 example of direct contradiction? please do it. I'll wait. Keep in mind, many common words meant very different things back then.

>inb4 you post a surface contradiction because you don't understand the meaning of the translated text.

>> No.1424728

>>1424721
He sends sick profits on Crypto all the time, Anon.

Unless you mean prophet, in which case perhaps he has. Anybody that claims to be a prophet of God now is looked upon with ridicule by Christians for some reason, as if it HAD to be in the past to be credible.

>> No.1424729

>>1424722
>your apathy will never spare you from the consequences of your ignorance.

i'll take my chances

There's so many contradictions that you never know whether masturbation or lust or eating shellfish will be the real one that damns you to hell

>> No.1424730

>>1424726
You're not a prophet and fuck me for misspelling it earlier.

>> No.1424732

>>1424728
A real prophet would be able to perform miracles, or at least divine the future in detail.
An omnipotent, omniscient God has no reason to send anything less, because nothing less would convince anyone of anything in the modern world.

>> No.1424737

>>1424727
>>inb4 you post a surface contradiction because you don't understand the meaning of the translated text.

With that you can twist words around to any interpretation you want, as people often do.

>Well he didn't really mean this one literally... he meant something totally else, it's obvious! Just look, each word is a metaphor for something else and he intended something totally different!

>> No.1424741

>>1424737
and you can do the same with two perfectly congruent peaces of text.

>>1424732
how do you define a miracle.

the fact that you have eyes to see is a miracle.

>> No.1424744

>>1424741
>and you can do the same with two perfectly congruent peaces of text.

Yeah exactly so how is this an argument?

if you believe in God good for you, why do you need to convince everyone else of it too?

>> No.1424746

Reluctant Christian here.

The bible is full of contradictions. Just take some of the big lessons of the bible and use them for what they are worth in your own life.

As for the old money =/= Christianity debate, like almost everything in Christianity, it's a balance. If you are 100% about making money despite any wrongdoing you're gonna have a bad time.

>> No.1424748

>>1424741
>how do you define a miracle.
Something that is both unexplainable by science and certainly not a hoax.

>the fact that you have eyes to see is a miracle.
It's not. Eyes can be explained by science.
So can sunrises, life, and beauty.

>> No.1424749

>>1424744
i am just curious about how you cope with the fact that no matter how hard you toil , all you work for will be completely worthless to you in the grave, and dare I say , even more worthless at the judgement of souls.

>> No.1424750

>>1424749
>i am just curious about how you cope with the fact that no matter how hard you toil

I cope with it very well by earning more money and spending it on things I enjoy


How do you cope with the fact that you as a God-fearing Christian man need to come to an anime imageboard and pretend to be a christian by making b8 threads

>> No.1424759

>>1424750
i don't see any anime.
this is a popular business forum.
this isn't the deep web.
I made a christian thread.
you're the belligerent keyboard warrior who cant cope.

>> No.1424774

>>1424759
But this is the way I cope

Are you by any chance the OP of the "How do you cope with these chads at mcdonalds" threads?

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>>1424692
>god is real because it says so in the bible

>> No.1424779

>>1424678
Op, the Bible says somewhere that we shouldnt ear rabbits bc they chew their own cud. And if you look at a rabbit, you might see it moving it's mouth like it is chewing some shit it puked up. But through biology and the scientific method study of animals we've learned rabbits in fact DO NOT 'chew their own cud'. In fact, the Bible is completely flat out indisputably fucking wrong about rabbits. Should we really believe in an impotent shithead God like that? That's incompetence plain and simple. Your God would be fired (if it existed)

>> No.1424780

what the fuck is this shit doing on this board?
saged.

>> No.1424782

>>1424775
God is real by definition.

>> No.1424786

>>1424779
*citation needed.

also.
http://www.vetstreet.com/our-pet-experts/why-does-my-rabbit-eat-his-poop

>> No.1424794

>>1424779
Rabbits actually do chew on their own shit for pretty much the same reason cows chew cud.

>> No.1424797

>>1424786
Lev 11:6

>> No.1424800

>>1424678
Ignoring the God bullshit, actually, there's something interesting in it - the question when should you "cash out" and live on whatever you've made.

I personally believe that you should never cash out, as that's a form of you not having control of yourself and letting an instinct (the ego and the desire for status mostly) control you, and that you should fully dedicate your entire life to being as efficient as possible with the money society has entrusted in you. No unnecessary items like expensive cars or houses, full and optimal compounding reinvestment instead.

>> No.1424803

>>1424794
sounds like one of those twisted, nefarious translation tricks us apologist like to use to force the masses to be more well behaved .

>> No.1424808

>>1424800
I don't think there's anything wrong with spending on luxuries in moderation, but I think it's better to buy things like travel to foreign countries or total freedom from wagecuckery.

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1424813

How do you cope with the fact that Allah is the one true God and Muhammed is his prophet?

I think you might be going to hell OP...

>> No.1424823

>>1424794
>>1424803
>Christian humor
So we're pretending that 'chewing cud' and eating shit are the same thing somehow merged by translation? You realise what a fucktard lunatic you sound like, right? You're no different than a Muslim terrorist going apeshit: you need a bullet on the head

>> No.1424830

>>1424823
This is weak bait.
Rabbits eat their own shit for exactly the same reason that cows chew cud.

>> No.1424838

>>1424678
That parable doesn't mean that you shouldn't prepare for the future, it means that earthly wealth shouldn't be all that matters.

>> No.1424841

>>1424808
>I don't think there's anything wrong with spending on luxuries in moderation

But why? Why would you do the illogical and inefficient act of satisfying your body and ego with money you could otherwise efficiently reinvest for more money?

Spending them on stuff you don't need, while having the knowledge you should be doing the opposite, is a major sign that you don't have control over yourself and is in fact also penalized by having the money you have obtained be taken from you and redistributed to the system without you exercising any beneficial control.

If looked from a physical point of view, you're quite literally applying unnecessary entropy to your own system and having it (and the control it has accumulated) disperse faster.

It's mindblowing how pretty much every single person fails to realize that and succumbs to their instincts and desire for status. But hey, in the end, their money do get redistributed back to those smart enough to be there for him when he's ready to spend, so in fact, his money does find its way to the smarter and more efficient controller.

It all really depends on what you define as a "luxury" and the impact it would have on your life if you have it, or don't.

>total freedom from wagecuckery
That's debatable but I somewhat agree on that.

>> No.1424842

>>1424813
because i know Islam is a rebellious spin off of abrahamic Judaism , and mohammed didn't offer his life as a sacrifice for human sin after living a sinless life?
isn't that obvious?

>> No.1424846

>>1424813

Easy.

Muhammed was not a prohpet.

I shit on his name and memory. Come at me faggot pedophile Muslims, you all can eat a bag of dicks in hell with your master.

>> No.1424848

>>1424830
>2 things done for the same reason are the same
So your dad fucks your ass for the same reason he used to fuck your mom before she left him for her Muslim rapists. They're the same thing I guess...

>> No.1424850

>>1424693
>all stocks eventually end up zero
Sure they do.
Wait, does this include the ones that get bought out?
Because that sort of invalidates your whole premise.

>> No.1424852

>>1424692
>>1424678
>look at my fairy tale jewbook it says I'm right

ayy lmao

>> No.1424855

>>1424813
Allah, God, and YHVH are all the same deity.
Muslims accept Jesus as the Messiah.

>>1424842
It's more like a spin-off of Christianity, like Mormonism.

>>1424841
Happiness is an intangible benefit that you can obtain by spending money on things you want, even if those things aren't necessary.
There's also value in conspicuous consumption to assert your higher social class, which can make life easier and help in finding a mate.
The key is moderation.

>> No.1424860

>>1424842
>>1424846
Nice copes

You're going to hell

>> No.1424873

I think some of you people need to check out trey smith on Youtube. Some people can't tolerate his methods of making videos but they consist of extremely viable explanations of the world in itself. If you can get past the fact that his face is literally right in the camera the entire time.

>> No.1424875

>>1424873
can you summarize the profound points for us?
most of those videos are longer than Speilberg films.

>> No.1424876

>>1424678
The best part about this is that OP spent a significant amount of time and effort looking up bible-shit just to (unsuccessfully) troll a shitty business forum

>> No.1424879

>>1424875
you're going to hell

Either accept Muhammed as the prophet you enjoy damnation for eternity

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>>1424879
you don't honestly believe that . you're just being a rebellious, saddlesore troll .

>> No.1424892

>>1424884
Nice cope, you're still going to cope though

The Holy Qu'ran says you're wrong

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>>1424884
Try coping with pic related faggot

>> No.1424900

>>1424875
nah, there's over 10+ hours of video. Can't really summarize it. He basically talks about stuff like Noah's Ark, Demons, Nephs, Dinosaurs, Explains how all religions and their applicable texts and beliefs are basically derivatives of the bible and christianity

>> No.1424902

>>1424898
>>1424892

So, do Christians and Muslims worship the same God? A better question is, “Do Christians and Muslims both have a correct understanding of who God is?” To this question, the answer is definitely no. Because of crucial differences between the Christian and Muslim concepts of God, the two faiths cannot both be true. The biblical God alone addresses and solves the problem of sin by giving His Son.

“For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son” (John 3:16-18).

>> No.1424907

>>1424898
>>1424892

A Muslim may love Allah and wish to please Allah, but the question in his mind will invariably be “is it enough? Are my works enough to merit salvation?” Christians believe that God sent His Son, Jesus Christ, to provide an answer to the question “is my work enough?” The answer is, no, our work is not enough (Matthew 5:48). This is shocking to anyone who has been trying on his own to appease God. But this was the point of Jesus’ famous Sermon on the Mount (Matthew 5:1–48). The Jews that Jesus spoke to, just like the Muslims who follow Allah, were trapped by the knowledge that nothing they did would ever meet God’s perfect standard. But Christ’s perfect life, atoning death, and resurrection did meet God’s standard (Hebrews 10:10; Romans 8:1–8). Jesus’ message to the Jews and His message now, to Muslims and everyone else, is “repent and believe” (Mark 1:15). This does not mean “stop sinning” and “believe that God exists.” It means “turn from sin and stop trying to please God by your own ability” and “believe that Christ has accomplished everything for you.” The promise to those who trust Christ is that they will become the children of God (John 1:12).

>> No.1424911

>>1424907

Allah offers no such promise. Muslims believe Allah will be merciful to them based on his evaluation of their performance. But salvation is never sure; it is never a promise. When the Western world looks with horror on things like jihad and acts of Islamic terrorism, they get a glimpse of the powerful fear that Allah instills in his many of his followers. Faithful Muslims are faced with a terrible choice: obey the violent commands of an omnipotent deity whose mercy is given only to the most passionate and devoted followers (and perhaps not even then), or give themselves up as hopelessly lost and headed for punishment.

Christians should not regard Muslims with hatred, but instead with compassion. Their god, Allah, is a false god, and their eyes are blinded to the truth (see 2 Corinthians 4:4). We should be praying for Muslims and asking God to show them the truth, revealing His promise of mercy and freedom in Christ (2 Timothy 2:24–26).

>> No.1424912

>>1424902
>>1424907
My book says your book is wrong

BTFO, nice cope faggot

>> No.1424913

>>1424900
>>1424875
I guess I shouldn't say that other religions are direct derivatives of the bible but they do coincide with each other and are linked with the fallen angels coming to earth to play "gods" on God's creation.

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>>1424912
its more than a book. its historical facts and figures.

just as you look to the history of stocks to judge how you should act on their basis, you should do even more diligence with the world you live in , especially concerning matters of the soul.

>> No.1424927

>>1424913
>the fallen angels coming to earth to play "gods" on God's creation.
Look up Interpretatio Romanum.
There's nothing particularly impressive about Christianity coming up with a post-hoc explanation for other religions because the Romans and Greeks had decided centuries before that everyone everywhere worshiped different aspects of the same gods under different names.
In fact, early Judaism wasn't even monotheistic, and simply insisted that YHVH was the best god, not the only one.

Actually, the Greeks and Romans were sort of right in that most Indo-European cultures are believed to derive their native pagan religions from a common, ancestral pantheon.

>> No.1424938

>>1424916
>its more than a book. its historical facts and figures.

Exactly.

My historical facts and figures say that yours are wrong. Beat it faggot

>>1424916
>just as you look to the history of stocks to judge how you should act on their basis

Jokes on you I buy cryptocurrency based on the word of my fellows here on /biz/

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>>1424938

>> No.1424942
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>>1424941
No you're wrong

my book said so

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>>1424941
No argument?

Typical. Looking up some more copes?

>> No.1424974

>>1424967
>>1424942
so this is how you cope?

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>>1424974
Is your way of coping asking if i'm coping?

Looks like you're incapable of coping.

>> No.1424985

>>1424980
so this is how you distract yourself from the inevitability of death and ordered judgement by the perfect divine programmer of life?

with silly jokes?
what about when the jokes run out and you once again are faced with the hard facts ?

>> No.1424986

>>1424841
What's the point of acquiring more money if you'll never spend it? I'm not saying massive amounts of consumerism are appropriate, but one should take pride in enjoying the fruits of his labour.

>> No.1424989

>>1424986
>What's the point of acquiring more money if you'll never spend it?

Financial security and making more money.

Spending money needlessly when you're not very rich is retarded, it's better to invest that money to make more. But when you get to millions it's better to spend some of the profit you're making from your investments.

>> No.1424991

>>1424985
Is this how you cope?

By telling yourself you chose the right God to worship out of thousands?

Nice. Cope.

Pathetic really, can't wait until you're in hell with all the other fools while im in Heaven.

The true God is wealth and the only way to get to his kingdom is lots and lots of money

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>>1424991
23Then Jesus said to His disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is difficult for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.” 25When the disciples heard this they were greatly astonished and asked, “Who then can be saved?”…

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>>1424996
Yes. Allah has sent down miracles, revelations and messengers to give clear proofs He exists and more important, what we should do once we come to this realization.

Allah has sent prophets and messengers with many proofs throughout the ages for people to be able to clearly see with their own eyes and to be able to use their own senses the miracles and proofs pointing to the fact, Allah does in fact, exist.

Miracles of prophets and messengers of Allah have come to people through the ages. Moses (peace be upon him) showed many miracles to pharaoh and to the children of Israel. Plagues, locusts, water turning to blood, his stick becoming a snake, the voice in the burning bush and the parting of the Red Sea are clear miracles for the people of Moses time.

Again, Allah sent Jesus, the son of Mary (peace be upon him) with clear miracles for the people of his time. Speaking from the cradle while still a new born infant, creating birds from clay, curing the sick, giving sight to the blind and even bringing a dead man back to life, were all clear signs to the people to know Jesus (peace be upon him) was a messenger of Allah as was Moses before him.

Muhammad (peace be upon him) was the last and final messenger of Allah, and he was sent to all of mankind. Allah sent him with a number of miracles, not the least of which was the Quran. The predictions and prophecies of Muhammad (peace be upon him) have come true even in this century and the Quran has been used to convince even scientists of the existence of Allah.
[Please visit "Science Proves Allah": Watch video of famous scientists admit Quran is from Allah and even accept Islam]

The Quran is the best of proofs for the existence of Allah and today over one and half billion people memorize and recite from the exact text, in the exact same language it was revealed in; Arabic. More than 10 million Muslims have completely memorized the entire Quran from cover to cover, and can recite it from memory without looking

>> No.1425006

>>1424996
I actually would like this verse if it wasn't so abused by churches. It's become a way to guilt churchgoers into tithing more than they can financially handle. It's a sad day when a pastor who lives in a mansion and drives a lexus and mercedes is pilfering one of his poor attendants for every last dollar they own. Isn't it supposed to be the other way around? When do churches ever give any money back to their congregation?

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>>1425002

>Again, Allah sent Jesus, the son of Mary (peace be upon him) with clear miracles for the people of his time. Speaking from the cradle while still a new born infant, creating birds from clay, curing the sick, giving sight to the blind and even bringing a dead man back to life, were all clear signs to the people to know Jesus (peace be upon him) was a messenger of Allah as was Moses before him.

John 14:6English Standard Version (ESV)

6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

>> No.1425011

>>1425006
2 Corinthians 9:6-7English Standard Version (ESV)

The Cheerful Giver
6 The point is this: whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows bountifully[a] will also reap bountifully. 7 Each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.

>> No.1425023

>>1424737
lol why didn't you just post a legit contradiction from the bible? seems like that'd be the quickest way to discredit me. I guess I'll wait on that a little longer.

>> No.1425031

>>1424748
>>the fact that you have eyes to see is a miracle.
>It's not. Eyes can be explained by science.
>So can sunrises, life, and beauty.

whelp. heres your miracle.

http://listverse.com/2015/04/10/10-fascinating-mysteries-of-life-that-science-cant-explain/


be careful buddy . you only get 2 more wishes ;)

>> No.1425035

>>1424678
I mean I'm not even "rich". I'm about as broke as they come, living paycheck to paycheck with less than $1000 in my savings account.

If I ever become rich, how do become "rich towards God"? I don't understand. Give to the poor? Well it's not like any rich people just give stuff to me when I'm poor. I don't see God punishing them.

This whole animosity towards wealth in the Bible always confused me, because in other parts of the Bible there are stories of people that pleased God and were blessed with tons of wealth.

I guess if I ever become rich I'll have to keep this in mind and try to figure it out. But for now, I can't waste time trying to decipher it because I'm too poor for it to be worth my time. :(

>> No.1425037

>>1425011
I'm not debating the point of the scripture. I am telling you how it is misused by greedy pastors.

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>>1425037

>> No.1425050

>>1425035
Question: "What does it mean to seek first the kingdom of God?"

Answer: Jesus said to seek first the kingdom of God in His Sermon on the Mount (Matthew 6:33). The verse’s meaning is as direct as it sounds. We are to seek the things of God as a priority over the things of the world. Primarily, it means we are to seek the salvation that is inherent in the kingdom of God because it is of greater value than all the world’s riches. Does this mean that we should neglect the reasonable and daily duties that help sustain our lives? Certainly not. But for the Christian, there should be a difference in attitude toward them. If we are taking care of God’s business as a priority—seeking His salvation, living in obedience to Him, and sharing the good news of the kingdom with others—then He will take care of our business as He promised—and if that’s the arrangement, where is worrying?

But how do we know if we’re truly seeking God’s kingdom first? There are questions we can ask ourselves. “Where do I primarily spend my energies? Is all my time and money spent on goods and activities that will certainly perish, or in the services of God—the results of which live on for eternity?” Believers who have learned to truly put God first may then rest in this holy dynamic: “…and all these things will be given to you as well.”

>> No.1425054

>>1425050

God has promised to provide for His own, supplying every need (Philippians 4:19), but His idea of what we need is often different from ours, and His timing will only occasionally meet our expectations. For example, we may see our need as riches or advancement, but perhaps God knows that what truly we need is a time of poverty, loss or solitude. When this happens, we are in good company. God loved both Job and Elijah, but He allowed Satan to absolutely pound Job (all under His watchful eye), and He let that evil woman, Jezebel, break the spirit of His own prophet Elijah (Job 1–2; 1 Kings 18–19). In both cases, God followed these trials with restoration and sustenance.

These “negative” aspects of the kingdom run counter to a heresy which is gaining ground around the world, the so-called "prosperity" gospel. A growing number of false teachers are gathering followers under the message “God wants you to be rich!” But that philosophy is not the counsel of the Bible—and it is certainly not the counsel of Matthew 6:33, which is not a formula for gaining wealth. It is a description of how God works. Jesus taught that our focus should be away from this world—its status and its lying allurements—and placed upon the things of God’s kingdom.

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>>1425023
>lol why didn't you just post a legit contradiction from the bible? seems like that'd be the quickest way to discredit me. I guess I'll wait on that a little longer.

http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_meritt/bible-contradictions.html

>> No.1425066

>>1425050
yeah but all I really want is to be free from this godawful wage slavery. I've worked hard manual labor every single day since I've graduated high school and had to watch all my friends go to college because their parents supported them through the whole thing. Now that I'm finally able to go to college I still have to do this shitty manual labor.

It's just killing my soul and making me feel dead inside. Kinda hard to care about "the kingdom" when all these other people don't "seek the kingdom" and they all just basically get shit handed to them while I try and try and try to succeed but still fail.

>> No.1425067

>>1425066
he's just copy pasting answers from a christian website lol

>> No.1425072

>>1425066
Matthew 6:25-34New International Version (NIV)

Do Not Worry
25 “Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink; or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothes? 26 Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they? 27 Can any one of you by worrying add a single hour to your life[a]?

28 “And why do you worry about clothes? See how the flowers of the field grow. They do not labor or spin. 29 Yet I tell you that not even Solomon in all his splendor was dressed like one of these. 30 If that is how God clothes the grass of the field, which is here today and tomorrow is thrown into the fire, will he not much more clothe you—you of little faith? 31 So do not worry, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’ 32 For the pagans run after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them. 33 But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well. 34 Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.

>> No.1425074

>>1425067
yeah i figured lol. I just kinda wanted to vent because I still kind of believe there is a God (I was raised Christian) but life is just so difficult and it always makes me wonder.

>> No.1425079

>>1425066
◄ Galatians 5:1 ►
Parallel Strong's
Holman Christian Standard Bible
Christ has liberated us to be free. Stand firm then and don’t submit again to a yoke of slavery.

New American Standard Bible
It was for freedom that Christ set us free; therefore keep standing firm and do not be subject again to a yoke of slavery.


Luke 12:33
Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide yourselves with purses that will not wear out, an inexhaustible treasure in heaven, where no thief approaches and no moth destroys.

>> No.1425082

>>1425046
Are you sure that all of them do and are though?

>> No.1425085

>>1425074
Just focus on yourself and specifically what you want in life.

Do everything for it. Make a list of goals and some "sub-goals" that you need in order to get to your main goals. Do everything towards that, don't do anything that doesn't get you closer

You will be successful.

What needs to change is your self-image. We all know what we need to do to be successful but we don't do it, why? - because we don't see ourselves doing it.

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>>1425074
Jesus Counsels the Rich Young Ruler
16 Now behold, one came and said to Him, “Good[a] Teacher, what good thing shall I do that I may have eternal life?”

17 So He said to him, “Why do you call Me good?[b] No one is good but One, that is, God.[c] But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.”

18 He said to Him, “Which ones?”

Jesus said, “‘You shall not murder,’ ‘You shall not commit adultery,’ ‘You shall not steal,’ ‘You shall not bear false witness,’ 19 ‘Honor your father and your mother,’[d] and, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ ”[e]

20 The young man said to Him, “All these things I have kept from my youth.[f] What do I still lack?”

21 Jesus said to him, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.”

22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful, for he had great possessions

>> No.1425100

>>1425082
Jesus Promises the Holy Spirit
…22Judas (not Iscariot) asked Him, “Lord, why are You going to reveal Yourself to us and not to the world?” 23Jesus replied, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word. My Father will love him, and we will come to him and make Our home with him. 24Whoever does not love Me does not keep My words. The word that you hear is not My own, but it is from the Father who sent Me.…

>> No.1425107

>>1425074
Colossians 3:23-24New International Version (NIV)

23 Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for human masters, 24 since you know that you will receive an inheritance from the Lord as a reward. It is the Lord Christ you are serving.

>> No.1425126

>>1425100
So no pastor is just faking it?

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>>1425126

>> No.1425134

>>1425132
My point.
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Your head.

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>>1425126

A New Heaven and a New Earth
…7The one who is victorious will inherit all things, and I will be his God, and he will be My son. 8But to the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and sexually immoral and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their place will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur. This is the second death.” 9Then one of the seven angels with the seven bowls full of the seven last plagues came and said to me, “Come, I will show you the bride, the wife of the Lamb.”…
Berean Study Bible · Download
Cross References
1 Corinthians 6:9
Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who submit to nor perform homosexual acts,

>> No.1425141

>>1425135
http://www.gotquestions.org/effeminate-men-masculine-women.html

>> No.1427140

>>1424782
cope

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>>1424678

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>>1427140
yeah that's what you'll have to learn to do as you burn for an eternity in the lake of fire, for being such a coward on this earth.

>> No.1427180

>>1424697
The prosperity gospel is heresy

>> No.1427187

>>1427180
your entire life is a heresy.

>> No.1427217

>>1427187
Everyones life is heretical. Even Christians.

>> No.1427218

>>1427217
Children of God
…6No one who remains in Him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has seen Him or known Him. 7Little children, let no one deceive you: The one who practices righteousness is righteous, just as Christ is righteous. 8The one who practices sin is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the very start. This is why the Son of God was revealed, to destroy the works of the devil.…

>> No.1427228

>>1427218
1John:8 If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

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>>1427218
2 Corinthians 6:14
>"Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness?"

>mfw yoked

>> No.1427233

>>1427228


God's Judgment on the Ungodly
3Beloved, although I made every effort to write you about the salvation we share, I felt it necessary to write and urge you to contend earnestly for the faith entrusted once for all to the saints. 4For certain men have crept in among you unnoticed — ungodly ones who were designated long ago for condemnation. They turn the grace of our God into a license for immorality, and they deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ. 5Although you are fully aware of this, I want to remind you that after Jesus had delivered His people out of the land of Egypt, He destroyed those who did not believe.…
Berean Study Bible · Download
Cross References
Acts 11:23
When he arrived and saw the grace of God, he rejoiced and encouraged them all to abide in the Lord with all their hearts.

Galatians 2:4
This issue arose because some false brothers were brought in under false pretenses to spy on our freedom in Christ Jesus, in order to enslave us.

1 Timothy 5:8
If anyone does not provide for his own, and especially his own household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.

2 Timothy 2:12
if we endure, we will also reign with Him; if we deny Him, He will also deny us;

2 Timothy 3:6
They are the kind who worm their way into households and captivate vulnerable women who are weighed down with sins and led astray by various passions,

Titus 1:16
They profess to know God, but they deny Him by their actions. They are detestable, disobedient, and unfit for any good deed.
2 Peter 2:1
Now there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies that even deny the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction on themselves.

2 Peter 2:2
Many will follow in their depravity, and because of them the way of the truth will be defamed.

>> No.1427248

>>1427233
Romans 2
2 You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge another, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things. 2 Now we know that God’s judgment against those who do such things is based on truth. 3 So when you, a mere human being, pass judgment on them and yet do the same things, do you think you will escape God’s judgment? 4 Or do you show contempt for the riches of his kindness, forbearance and patience, not realizing that God’s kindness is intended to lead you to repentance?

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>>1427248

>> No.1427253
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>>1427248
or if you think old testament God Aint worth nuthin.

>> No.1427256

>>1424678
>god
>real

lmao

>> No.1427260

>>1427251
>>1427253
Matthew 23
23“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former. 24You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel.

25“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. 26Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean.

27“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean. 28In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.

>> No.1427265

>>1427260
Matthew 23
Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: 2“The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. 3So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach. 4They tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them on other people’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them.

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>>1427260

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>>1424678
>Be productive
>Create wealth for you and your people
>Store grain for times of need
>Do it knowing your descendants will inherit the product of your hard work
>Be respected and admired for everyone for your productivity and ingenuity
>Be a pillar of the family and your local community to whom you provide grain because of that

>Despite all be considered a "fool" because you don't belive in the preachings of the local monk
>Some people will believe you deserve to be murdered by God because you spend your life working instead of praying to him and giving your hard-earned gold to the church.
>tfw victim of the envy and ignorance of the low-class scum
>tfw God actually murders you
>why.jpg
>tfw it was a diabolical God all along and you were always right by not praying to him
>tfw you actually end in heaven, revered by everyone for all the goods you did while on earth.
>Look down on Earth, tfw some people still use this metaphor unironically.

>> No.1427275

>>1427270
Matthew 7
1 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

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lol , why do u keep making excuses for sin ??????

just screw off and go live a sinful life. and see what happens.
stop trying to convince me to gamble with the grace of God go to hell with you.


A Tree and its Fruit
…22Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ 23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness.’ 24Therefore everyone who hears these words of Mine and acts on them is like a wise man who built his house on the rock.…

>> No.1427281

>>1427275
Matthew 4:1-11New International Version (NIV)

Jesus Is Tested in the Wilderness
4 Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted[a] by the devil. 2 After fasting forty days and forty nights, he was hungry. 3 The tempter came to him and said, “If you are the Son of God, tell these stones to become bread.”

4 Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.’[b]”

5 Then the devil took him to the holy city and had him stand on the highest point of the temple. 6 “If you are the Son of God,” he said, “throw yourself down. For it is written:

“‘He will command his angels concerning you,
and they will lift you up in their hands,
so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.’[c]”
7 Jesus answered him, “It is also written: ‘Do not put the Lord your God to the test.’[d]”

8 Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor. 9 “All this I will give you,” he said, “if you will bow down and worship me.”

10 Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.’[e]”

11 Then the devil left him, and angels came and attended him.

>> No.1427283

>>1427279
Matthew 23
13 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people’s faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to. [14] [b]

15 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when you have succeeded, you make them twice as much a child of hell as you are.

>> No.1427287

>>1427283


3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

Matthew 23
23“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former. 2

25“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. 26Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean.

27“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean. 28In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.

Romans 2
2 You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge another, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things. 2 Now we know that God’s judgment against those who do such things is based on truth. 3 So when you, a mere human being, pass judgment on them and yet do the same things, do you think you will escape God’s judgment? 4 Or do you show contempt for the riches of his kindness, forbearance and patience, not realizing that God’s kindness is intended to lead you to repentance?

>> No.1427288

>>1427287
Matthew 9
9As Jesus went on from there, he saw a man named Matthew sitting at the tax collector’s booth. “Follow me,” he told him, and Matthew got up and followed him.

10While Jesus was having dinner at Matthew’s house, many tax collectors and sinners came and ate with him and his disciples. 11When the Pharisees saw this, they asked his disciples, “Why does your teacher eat with tax collectors and sinners?”

12On hearing this, Jesus said, “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. 13But go and learn what this means: ‘I desire mercy, not sacrifice.’a For I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.”

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>>1427288

get real.

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>>1427288

>> No.1427303

>>1427293
Romans 7
14 We know that the law is spiritual; but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. 15 I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. 16 And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. 17 As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. 18 For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature.[c] For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. 19 For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do—this I keep on doing. 20 Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.

21 So I find this law at work: Although I want to do good, evil is right there with me. 22 For in my inner being I delight in God’s law; 23 but I see another law at work in me, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within me. 24 What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body that is subject to death? 25 Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord!

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>>1427303

>> No.1427311

ispute Over Jesus’ Testimony
12 When Jesus spoke again to the people, he said, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.”

13 The Pharisees challenged him, “Here you are, appearing as your own witness; your testimony is not valid.”

14 Jesus answered, “Even if I testify on my own behalf, my testimony is valid, for I know where I came from and where I am going. But you have no idea where I come from or where I am going. 15 You judge by human standards; I pass judgment on no one. 16 But if I do judge, my decisions are true, because I am not alone. I stand with the Father, who sent me. 17 In your own Law it is written that the testimony of two witnesses is true. 18 I am one who testifies for myself; my other witness is the Father, who sent me.”

19 Then they asked him, “Where is your father?”

“You do not know me or my Father,” Jesus replied. “If you knew me, you would know my Father also.”

>> No.1427312

>>1427311

23 But he continued, “You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world. 24 I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am he, you will indeed die in your sins.”

25 “Who are you?” they asked.

“Just what I have been telling you from the beginning,” Jesus replied. 26 “I have much to say in judgment of you. But he who sent me is trustworthy, and what I have heard from him I tell the world.”

27 They did not understand that he was telling them about his Father. 28 So Jesus said, “When you have lifted up[a] the Son of Man, then you will know that I am he and that I do nothing on my own but speak just what the Father has taught me. 29 The one who sent me is with me; he has not left me alone, for I always do what pleases him.” 30 Even as he spoke, many believed in him.

>> No.1427317

>>1427306
8 If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us

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What a bunch of preaching retards with their stupid quotes from stupid goat-herders in the Middle-East from two thousand years ago with their stupid intentional old English writing. Bunch of absolutely delusional submissive pussies praying to a God out of fear of his punishment AFTER they die. Holy fuck how much of a retard can you be, if you just at least kept it to yourselves it would be ok, there are people for everything, some people like to eat dicks and other people like to pray to their local and unequivocal version and denomination of God, but it's all this preaching wich makes you people truly unsufferable. You are repulsive to the core.

>> No.1427319

31 To the Jews who had believed him, Jesus said, “If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples. 32 Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”

33 They answered him, “We are Abraham’s descendants and have never been slaves of anyone. How can you say that we shall be set free?”

34 Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, everyone who sins is a slave to sin. 35 Now a slave has no permanent place in the family, but a son belongs to it forever. 36 So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed. 37 I know that you are Abraham’s descendants. Yet you are looking for a way to kill me, because you have no room for my word. 38 I am telling you what I have seen in the Father’s presence, and you are doing what you have heard from your father.[b]”

39 “Abraham is our father,” they answered.

“If you were Abraham’s children,” said Jesus, “then you would[c] do what Abraham did. 40 As it is, you are looking for a way to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. Abraham did not do such things. 41 You are doing the works of your own father.”

“We are not illegitimate children,” they protested. “The only Father we have is God himself.”

42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me. 43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don’t you believe me? 47 Whoever belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.”

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>>1427317
John 3:16New International Version (NIV)

16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.


>she is repeatedly going back to taking the message of the Grace of christ out of context, and out of its timeline

yea good luck with that.

testify to everyone who hears the words of prophecy in this book: If anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. 19And if anyone takes away from the words of this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.…

>> No.1427325

>>1424678
I think this dilemma is solved by the idea of estate planning. You build wealth to enjoy your life, but also so that you can groom your offspring to carry on your empire. You will die and your surplus wealth will not follow you to death, but you will die knowing that you are now the patriarch of a powerful lineage of sons.

This is especially important in today's turbulent times. Get rich, but also have at least two children with a woman of your same race to carry on your business and your name

>> No.1427329

>>1427318
8 The Jews answered him, “Aren’t we right in saying that you are a Samaritan and demon-possessed?”

49 “I am not possessed by a demon,” said Jesus, “but I honor my Father and you dishonor me. 50 I am not seeking glory for myself; but there is one who seeks it, and he is the judge. 51 Very truly I tell you, whoever obeys my word will never see death.”

52 At this they exclaimed, “Now we know that you are demon-possessed! Abraham died and so did the prophets, yet you say that whoever obeys your word will never taste death. 53 Are you greater than our father Abraham? He died, and so did the prophets. Who do you think you are?”

54 Jesus replied, “If I glorify myself, my glory means nothing. My Father, whom you claim as your God, is the one who glorifies me. 55 Though you do not know him, I know him. If I said I did not, I would be a liar like you, but I do know him and obey his word. 56 Your father Abraham rejoiced at the thought of seeing my day; he saw it and was glad.”

57 “You are not yet fifty years old,” they said to him, “and you have seen Abraham!”

58 “Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!” 59 At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds.

>> No.1427332

>>1427323
Matthew 18
Dealing With Sin in the Church
15 “If your brother or sister[b] sins,[c] go and point out their fault, just between the two of you. If they listen to you, you have won them over. 16 But if they will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’[d]

>> No.1427337

>>1427332
>14 Jesus answered, “Even if I testify on my own behalf, my testimony is valid, for I know where I came from and where I am going. But you have no idea where I come from or where I am going. 15 You judge by human standards; I pass judgment on no one. 16 But if I do judge, my decisions are true, because I am not alone. I stand with the Father, who sent me. 17 In your own Law it is written that the testimony of two witnesses is true. 18 I am one who testifies for myself; my other witness is the Father, who sent me.”

>> No.1427338

>>1427323
2 Timothy
8 So do not be ashamed of the testimony about our Lord or of me his prisoner. Rather, join with me in suffering for the gospel, by the power of God. 9 He has saved us and called us to a holy life—not because of anything we have done but because of his own purpose and grace. This grace was given us in Christ Jesus before the beginning of time,

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>>1427329
I'm not reading it. I didn't read a single line of your shitty quotes. I don't give a shit about you and your fucking jews from two thousand years ago and their goat-fucking circumcised dicks. Fuck off with your jewish God already.

>> No.1427344

>>1427338
nice cope hellbound sinner.

>> No.1427347

>>1427343
>came to the thread.
>to not read it.

and lying to ppl online helps you cope?

>> No.1427350

>>1427344
James 4
8 Come near to God and he will come near to you. Wash your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded. 9 Grieve, mourn and wail. Change your laughter to mourning and your joy to gloom. 10 Humble yourselves before the Lord, and he will lift you up.

11 Brothers and sisters, do not slander one another. Anyone who speaks against a brother or sister[d] or judges them speaks against the law and judges it. When you judge the law, you are not keeping it, but sitting in judgment on it. 12 There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy. But you—who are you to judge your neighbor?

>> No.1427353

>>1427350
>>1427337


Paul Confronts Cephas
…19For through the Law I died to the Law so that I might live to God. 20I have been crucified with Christ, and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself up for me. 21I do not set aside the grace of God. For if righteousness comes through the Law, Christ died for nothing.”…

>> No.1427356

>>1427353
16 nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we may be justified by faith in Christ, and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law shall no flesh be justified. 17 But if, while seeking to be justified in Christ, we ourselves have also been found sinners, is Christ then a minister of sin? May it never be!

>> No.1427363

>>1427356
i talked to god.

he said ur full of shit a peice of shit. and a hell bound liar.

>> No.1427368

>>1427363
Luke 12
12 Meanwhile, when a crowd of many thousands had gathered, so that they were trampling on one another, Jesus began to speak first to his disciples, saying: “Be[a] on your guard against the yeast of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy. 2 There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, or hidden that will not be made known. 3 What you have said in the dark will be heard in the daylight, and what you have whispered in the ear in the inner rooms will be proclaimed from the roofs.

>> No.1427370

>>1427368
hey zooey. i talked to god.
he said ur a liar who perverts his word.
that i am in his perfect will
and that you are going to burn in hell for eternity.


that enough for ya?

>> No.1427375

>>1427370
James 2
8 If you really keep the royal law found in Scripture, “Love your neighbor as yourself,”[a] you are doing right. 9 But if you show favoritism, you sin and are convicted by the law as lawbreakers. 10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it. 11 For he who said, “You shall not commit adultery,”[b] also said, “You shall not murder.”[c] If you do not commit adultery but do commit murder, you have become a lawbreaker.

12 Speak and act as those who are going to be judged by the law that gives freedom, 13 because judgment without mercy will be shown to anyone who has not been merciful. Mercy triumphs over judgment.

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>>1427375
ur going to hell clown.deal with it.
and stop talking to me . i dont like you ,or approve of your life style of deceit.
i dont want anything to do with you. and take joy in your eternal damnation.

>> No.1427381

>>1424678

This is a metaphor for Obama hating your white middle class savings and stealing it by whatever means possible.

Obama and the Jews.

>> No.1427383

>>1427376
Romans 9
14 What then shall we say? Is God unjust? Not at all! 15 For he says to Moses,

“I will have mercy on whom I have mercy,
and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.”[f]
16 It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God’s mercy

>> No.1427385

>>1427368

>3 What you have said in the dark will be heard in the daylight, and what you have whispered in the ear in the inner rooms will be proclaimed from the roofs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJlN9jdQFSc

Good thread, glad I opened it.

>> No.1427386

>go into thread expecting discussion
>instead it's a "bored faggot from /sci/ or /lit/ tries to shitpost with Biblespam on a cryptoshill board" episode
>gets out fucking played by someone who is better at Christposting than he is

kekek, thanks for the chuckles.

>> No.1427390

>>1427386

>>1427383

nothing u can say is more powerful than knowing and hearing from The creator of the universe the truth.

but u can keep trying if it helps you cope.

>> No.1427391

>>1427390
>giving up on finding Bible quotes because the other guy was wrecking you

sad

>> No.1427392

>>1427390
John 10
10 “Very truly I tell you Pharisees, anyone who does not enter the sheep pen by the gate, but climbs in by some other way, is a thief and a robber. 2 The one who enters by the gate is the shepherd of the sheep. 3 The gatekeeper opens the gate for him, and the sheep listen to his voice. He calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. 4 When he has brought out all his own, he goes on ahead of them, and his sheep follow him because they know his voice. 5 But they will never follow a stranger; in fact, they will run away from him because they do not recognize a stranger’s voice.” 6 Jesus used this figure of speech, but the Pharisees did not understand what he was telling them.

>> No.1427401

>>1427392
please run away and never comeback.
take a hint already >>1427391

kill yourself and your misery on this earth will be forgotten .

>> No.1427404

>>1427401
>being this unwilling to Google/copypaste for the Lord on a Chinese cartoon imageboard

Isn't sloth a sin? What would Jesus think of your lack of effort?

>> No.1427406

>>1427404
stop stalking me on the internet. i dont like you i dont want u to have anything to do with my life.

go lose your virginity . you aren't wanted here

>> No.1427408

>>1427406
This is what it must feel like to watch a rap battle and have one of the rappers get BTFO so badly he quits.

kek

>> No.1427410

>>1427401
Ephesians 4:31-32
Let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor and slander be put away from you, along with all malice. Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you.

>> No.1427417

>>1427408
>>1427410
quit stalking me .

i know who u are . its pathetic. get a life.

>> No.1427422

>>1427417
1 Timothy 6
11 But you, man of God, flee from all this, and pursue righteousness, godliness, faith, love, endurance and gentleness. 12 Fight the good fight of the faith. Take hold of the eternal life to which you were called when you made your good confession in the presence of many witnesses

>> No.1427424

>>1427417
>making up a flimsy excuse about being stalked on an anonymous imageboard in order to stop trying
Your butt must be so bright with humiliation and regrets right now.

Also I was scrolling up and found this gem (You) wrote here at >>1425107:

23 Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for human masters

:^)

>> No.1427425

>>1427417
1 Corinthians 13
13 If I speak in the tongues[a] of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. 2 If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. 3 If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast,[b] but do not have love, I gain nothing.

4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears. 11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me. 12 For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.

13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.

>> No.1427426

>>1427425
>>1427424
>>1427422
i know who u are

leave me alone
get a life

god doesn't like u
i dont like u .


grow up .

>> No.1427429

>>1427426
kek

>> No.1427430

>>1427426
Matthew 5:43-48
You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? And if you greet only your brothers, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same?

>> No.1427433

>>1427430
God's loving ur ass right into hell .

maybe he'll let you take ur bible with u as a reminder.

>> No.1427442

>>1427433
Jude 1:21
Keep yourselves in the love of God, waiting for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ that leads to eternal life.

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>> No.1427475

>>1424692
I think you're the one lying to yourself to help cope with the pointlessness of life.

Look into two worlds philosophy. Most religions focus on how our present world is shit and imperfect, while the one awaiting us after death is great and perfect.

I'm not privy to all of the philosophers, but Nietzsche was one who chose to stick to one world alone and not be delusional. He writes about becoming the best version of yourself on this earth, not because it is life's point, but because it has no point and you're being handed a point.

>> No.1427486

>>1424678
>plan to retire using the well-deserved sustenance from my rightful property
>God says "lol you didn't pay my tax, go die."
>tfw i get killed that night because peasants think this is their retribution
>tfw my life and property are stolen from me by slothful niggers that never worked a day in their life
>tfw this is justified by an imagined being called God

>> No.1427644

>>1427475
>best version of yourself

>nihilistic troll on 4 chan


keep coping .

>> No.1427687

>>1424678

Really.

Do you want to make a statement that Christianity is pro-Capitalism when it specifically forbids usury in the Bible in the old and new testament?

>> No.1427727

>>1427687
The Seventh Year
…5if only you listen obediently to the voice of the LORD your God, to observe carefully all this commandment which I am commanding you today. 6"For the LORD your God will bless you as He has promised you, and you will lend to many nations, but you will not borrow; and you will rule over many nations, but they will not rule over you. 7"If there is a poor man with you, one of your brothers, in any of your towns in your land which the LORD your God is giving you, you shall not harden your heart, nor close your hand from your poor brother;…

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quit taking the justice of God out of context , senpai.
>>1427248


Study Bible
>>1427248

1If any of you has a grievance against another, how dare he go to law before the unrighteous instead of before the saints! 2Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if you are to judge the world, are you not competent to judge trivial cases? 3Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more the things of this life!…

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>>1427733

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>>1427735
btfo

>> No.1428201

>>1427743
Revelations 20 2:5
And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years, and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he might not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were ended. After that he must be released for a little while. Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended. This is the first resurrection.

>> No.1428206

>>1427733
Romans 4: 1-13
As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions. One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables. Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, for God has welcomed him. Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master that he stands or falls. And he will be upheld, for the Lord is able to make him stand. One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind.

>> No.1428209

>>1427735
John 8:7
And as they continued to ask him, he stood up and said to them, “Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her.”

>> No.1428220

>>1427735
Titus 3:2-7

To speak evil of no one, to avoid quarreling, to be gentle, and to show perfect courtesy toward all people. For we ourselves were once foolish, disobedient, led astray, slaves to various passions and pleasures, passing our days in malice and envy, hated by others and hating one another. But when the goodness and loving kindness of God our Savior appeared, he saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit, whom he poured out on us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior

>> No.1428222

>>1427644
James 1:26
If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person's religion is worthless.

>> No.1428226

>>1427401
Romans 12:16-19
Live in harmony with one another. Do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly. Never be wise in your own sight. Repay no one evil for evil, but give thought to do what is honorable in the sight of all. If possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all. Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.”

>> No.1428237

>>1424884
Galatians 5:22 - 6:5
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law. And those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. If we live by the Spirit, let us also walk by the Spirit. Let us not become conceited, provoking one another, envying one another

>> No.1428245

>>1427187
Luke 18: 10-14
“Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee, standing by himself, prayed thus: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I get.’ But the tax collector, standing far off, would not even lift up his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me, a sinner!’ I tell you, this man went down to his house justified, rather than the other. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but the one who humbles himself will be exalted.”

>> No.1428249

>>1424759
2 Timothy 2:25
Therefore, if anyone cleanses himself from what is dishonorable, he will be a vessel for honorable use, set apart as holy, useful to the master of the house, ready for every good work. So flee youthful passions and pursue righteousness, faith, love, and peace, along with those who call on the Lord from a pure heart. Have nothing to do with foolish, ignorant controversies; you know that they breed quarrels.

>> No.1428251

>>1427344
Romans 2:21
Therefore you have no excuse, O man, every one of you who judges. For in passing judgment on another you condemn yourself, because you, the judge, practice the very same things.

>> No.1428252

If you are not a Fool, money is your slave and servant.

If you kind to my servants and thus they grow forth and multiply and bring you endless joy.

A fool is someone who treats his subjects with reckless abandon, and ends up living a life of misery.

this is the Gospel of /biz/, give thanks for your servants and treat them well.

>> No.1428257

>>1425059
Genesis Ch2 verse 2 Then God said, “Take your son, your only son, whom you love—Isaac—and go to the region of Moriah. Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on a mountain I will show you.”

>whom you love
That's not contradictory