/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>14194269
because /biz/ is full of speculative investors who view crypto as a get rich quick scheme and not anarcho-capitalists who view crypto as the beginning of the fourth industrial revolution and a means to restoring power and privacy to the people from tyrannical governments and unfair taxes by reintroducing the fundamentals of sound money principals to the modern computer era.

I believe so. If Monero becomes a common micropayments coin, it will absolutely smash it.

Because /biz/ isn’t based. Chainlink is not based. Nu/biz/ only cares about getting rich as quick as possible and essentially has a gamblers mindset. They don’t want steady gains long into the future they want a moonmission in a short time cause all your based coiners left after they got rich in 2017 and now you have the leftovers from that

>>14194509
red pill

>>14194269
but it is too big and and every node will have to buy another ssd for 100 bucks every 5 years to store the blockchain

>>14194269
who gets to deploy new mining algorithms and how can i trust them?

>>14194692
>what is pruning
Do your research before saying dumb shit

>>14194269
monero is a dead man walking. it will be B A N N E D sooner or later by governments and its value drop to zero. i really like it, but its eventually a death row inmate waiting for "the day". its not a privacy coin but a anonymity coin that allows terror financing, crime, money laundering and tax evasion. the day will come and it will be entirely worthless in just a few hours.

>>14194776
>terror financing, crime, money laundering, tax evasion
>useless

Pick one

>>14194794
if you don't get it i honestly recommend you put your money into XMR and get ready to "enjoy poverty" one random morning

>>14194776
>when the government bans things it loses value
KEK

Waiting for that fag who posts in every XMR thread about going to prison. I hate that guy but he’s actually right
>get caught using XMR
>government doesn’t like that
>say you’re funding criminals/terrorists even though you aren’t
>get 5-10years in prison
I think I’m going to stay away and just use usd like a good patriotic citizen. No need for anarchists money when I can use dollars. Hopefully others will see the light too.

>>14194619
This. We keep having these threads but the fact is most of this board is filled with moonkids that have no appreciation for how powerful Monero actually is. They'd rather rally behind some ERC20 token.

Most of /biz/ chases pumps like a divorced man desperate to pay alimony and child support for 10 kids... us monero-chads aren't speculators. I'm exchanging my worthless fiat for the currency of the future.

>>14194967
What a wuss. People were saying the same about BTC in 2011.

>>14194718
You don't have to trust anyone. Monero is an open book. Hell, you could probably help develop it if you had knowledge on creating the kind of algorithm they want to make.

>>14194776
>>14194794
does anyone remember when everyone thought that bitcoin was anonymous and regurgitated this same bullshit? (terrorists will use it, money laundering ect) at this point its all FUD anyway
see:
https://www.ccn.com/cryptocurrency-isnt-useful-for-terrorists-cash/
>>14194509
Based as fuck
>>14194718
its a community consensus just the same way bitcoin works
>>14194776
maybe, but Monero don't give a fuck
>>14194967
what makes people so eager to think that if you want financial privacy you're automatically doing something illegal? this is insanity to me. PRIVACY IS A BASIC HUMAN RIGHT
imagine if everyone in the whole world could peer into your bank account and see all incoming and outbound transactions - because that's EXACTLY what bitcoin allows someone to do.

>>14194718
forgot to mention, along with community consensus the Monero community funds audits of the code by multiple third parties to ensure that there are no major flaws that exist. this has become standard process now.

What's the best, most anonymous way to buy some?

>>14196251
Xmr atm or binance with VPN

>>14194980
And an ERC20 token that relies on 3rd party partnerships to be successful. Monero doesn’t need any help to keep going up

>>14196379
The VPN may mask my IP but surely the transaction logs would still be on my account, which is KYC'd. Or do you mean a fresh account with VPN? I would prefer an atm but there's literally none in my country.

>>14194269
no because it's (((theircoin)))

>>14196419
Agreed.
>>14196448
New account + VPN I think he means. Obviously you're limited to 2 BTC amount withdrawal in this case. Another option is the BISQ dex app.

>>14196448
Obv a new account. Who the hell does kyc for binance ?

>>14196474
>no because it's (((theircoin)))
It's quite obviously not.

>>14194619
that's why I invest in Cardano and XRP

>>14196489
>>14196491
Not KYC but they've got my email and 2fa account. Still all my on ramps are tied to my identity (cuckbase, wirex) and any new site I would have to use my card which obviously is revealing. Would a BTC mixer be the best way to get clean funds to Binance?

>anonymous board
>not all in on anonymous coins
>instead all in on a coin a kike can kill at the stroke of a pen by saying we are not using chainlink

Wew

>>14194509

This.

Bitcoin and monero are all that matters. Fucking shitcoiners ruin this board.

>>14194776
> will be B A N N E D sooner or later by governments and its value drop to zero.
Yeah sure anon, everyone knows how cocaine dropped its value to zero after it got banned by the governments. Everything that is banned and illegal becomes fucking cheap. All people who trade cocaine are fucking poor now.

>>14194818

You are retarded and need to leave crypto immediately.

Go invest in USD

>>14196574
>Would a BTC mixer be the best way to get clean funds to Binance?
Maybe, but I've read reports of picking up tainted BTC through mixers and then getting flagged/account locked by exchanges when you deposit to them. Is mining an option?

>>14196489
I'll look into BISQ too ty anon

>>14196588

This. Normies are flooding ouR BOARD REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

The fud against xmr reminds me of the cucks that hamstrung Gamergate... "muh pr!", "muh gotta stay credible in the eyes of mainstream media", "muh we gotta become good goys to achieve our goals".

I hate the slow redditification of this site into supporting the "acceptable", 4chan is supposed to be a gathering anarchic shitlords that want to see the current world burn.

>>14196671
I've not looked into mining but I know Monero is meant to be friendly for GPU mining right? I have a 980TI 6gb and an I7 4400k or something like that. Any miners know what kinda returns that'll get? Also is a pool the best option?

>>14196738
Don't worry, the only people who fud monero this way are paid bsv 15 rupee pajeets.

>>14196774
you can def mine with that HW. Monero is striving to keep mining as egalitarian as possible so that individuals can get their hands on some without having to invest in ASICS.

>>14194794
>>14194776

Did you mean Cash?

>>14196506
Mossad will confirm it's not

if you are a criminal or want to buy drugs then its your coin
if you want to make money then no. this shit will get delisted from everyone and dump hard. you wont be able to even cash out
>inb4 durr I dun even want to cash out

>>14196929
+15 rupees

>>14196846
Do you know where I can mine? Is a pool the best option or is there a client or something I can download? I'll research this more when I'm done waging but if anyone could point me in the right direction.

>>14196929
How do you stop a peer to peer electronic cash that’s private from cashing out if people can just trade paper cash for Monero by sending from wallet A to wallet B ?

The government couldn’t stop torrenting, they couldn’t stop alcohol or drugs, what makes you think they can stop Monero ?

>>14197114
haha yeah bro every time you want to cash out you have to find a random pajeet from the street to give you thousands in cash good luck with that bro

>>14197265
Oh you are so smart, u can proudly grab another 15 rupees.
Everyone knows that illegal things cost less. >>14196627 like cocaine, which has maybe the lowest return of investments. Or let's remember how cheap was alcohol in the USA while it was banned in 1920 - 1933.
So it's obvious that XMR price will dump hard if governments ban it.

>>14197003
supportxmr
follow the config generator on the site

>>14197003
>>14197003
Monero is still GPU-friendly to mine, at least for the next few months, and it looks like after the RandomX hard fork Nvidia GPUs will be alright.

You're going to want to use a pool. I have had good luck with minexmr. Download the latest Monero GUI wallet from github, get an address for yourself, download xmr-stak from github, then just fire up xmr-stak and answer the prompts and you're mining. Don't get too excited, you're only going to be mining about $1 of Monero per day with that hardware but hey it's something.

>>14197361
>poonero is just like drugs!!
>people will be addicted to poonero and seek to buy more!!
ahaahahah poonerotards are really this dumb and delusional

>>14194870
>>14195383
>>14196627
>>14196738

U faggots have no clue. First you should read thecaseforbsv.com , there is a small section in the middle on XMR that explains why it will go down. You kids cannot even understand the difference between privacy and anonymity. Bitcoin is legal and will stay legal (at least bsv) because law enforcement can TRACK IT. Which they have done plenty. Its by now ROUTINE for mid tier law enforcement to track Bitcoin payment streams. You cannot do that with Monero. DING DING DING. This pisses them off already since a few years. Once XMR crosses a certain awareness thresshold (price or some mainstream crypto news that gets this agenda on the table) Monero will get BANNED in one country after another. Thats a huge fucking problem for legislators and laws that this “””privacy””” coin is actually not private as Bitcoin is but anonymous. You really need to be Sub 80IQ or totally naive to think there is any other way. This happened with egold and liberty reserve before: one day they will go down to ZERO within moments. It’s inevitable. Im an old guy i know how this show is run. When you least expect it law enforcement and legislators will take it down.

>>14197503
How though?
>Law Enforcement: Hey, stop using Monero!
>Monero users: No.

>>14197503
If crypto gets banned, you're poo poofta coin gets banned too, retarded idiot.

>>14197503
>they did it to e-gold

This isn’t e-gold R tard. They shut down e gold cause it was a company they could shut down. How do you shutdown decentralized code ? You dont

>>14197579
U Fucking retard, read it on the website i quoted, i wont copy-paste spoonfed you from my phone

>>14197503
And this is bullish. Very bullish.

>>14197503
Lol exactly as I've said >>14196800

>>14197579
>monero users
>users
so.. what you gonna use your monero for? if its banned that means no store will ever accept it as payment except drug dealers LMAO

>>14197390
>>14197380
Cheers anons I'll check them out. So say I download the GUI then the xmr-stak, where does the mining pool come in?

>>14197579
In a nutshell: no one will want it cause you cannot buy real world legal stuff with it. Theres no use for a currency that you cannot exchange for real world goods or money. Why should i own this? Thats why the price will go to zero. A banned currency. Why the fuck should i exchange my btc for xmr if xmr is banned? At least i can cash out my btc to usd somewhere. You wont be able to do so with xmr. The price of XMR will go to zero cause every real world exchange that is certified for fiat will delist it. It will simply go down to zero cause it becomes USELESS. its not the coin ban itself that kills it, its the exchanges that cut it off from getting converted into fiat. You can convert every shitcoin into fiat one way or the other but you wont be able to do that with a banned currency. And good luck with a DEX: exchanging it there for other crypto assumes that you find someone who is so stupid to actually want this USELESS money. Get it now?

>>14197605
>i wont copy-paste spoonfed you from my phone
If Monero gets delisted from exchanges, it'll still have a street price, even if it's almost worthless. I mean, if you want to use it, it'll be there.
>>14197635
xmr.to. You can already use Monero everywhere bitcoin is accepted.
>>14197638
When you fire up xmr-stak, it'll ask you which pool you're connecting to (minexmr, supportxmr, etc.) and the pool's website is basically an easy to read interface for seeing when the pool found their last block and what your share is. Usually the free payout threshold is like 0.5 XMR or 1 XMR, so you might have to mine for a little while.

>pow as a choice
>main "dev" is a fat fuck, loves ponies, hasn't worked on anything for years and flashes his wealth on normalshit
>no real progress whatsoever on wallet software
>fundamentally unsound because why would you use a crypto only criminals use
>tons of bagholders yearning to dump on you
when you put it that way it is kind of the /biz/ coin
but it's not a sound investment, that's for sure

>>14197625
You will enjoy poverty, im certain of that.

>>14197727
>You can already use Monero
because its not banned yet moron

>>14197635
> drug dealers
U have no idea how much money are laundered with crypto by corrupt oligarchs and politicians.
While adoption increases and while offshore banking is under more and more pressure, it will be used more and more.

And drug dealers won't go anywhere too.
If Monero gets banned and delisted from cexes, these people will continue using XMR to hide their money. Eventually trading will be done on dexes and/or darknet exchanges.
I understand that u will continue arguing because otherwise u won't get your rupees, but if u are smart pajeet u should invest your rupees in Monero.

>>14197727
You kids are just retarded, seriously i will enjoy your tears. I shouldn't even redpill you faggots here, you all deserve to loose the little that you have when this shit gets the rope /saged

>>14197715
Idiot nucoiner. There are tons of ways to convert crypto to crypto, crypto to fiat and crypto to real-life-items without any bureaucracy.

>>14197745
>monero gonna crash da system! fuck the evil government and elites!!!
>monero is gonna help all the rich elites hide their money
topkek. you poonerotards will say the dumbest shit to justify your bags. enjoy your ride to 1 dollar pajeetoid

>>14197635
Monero can already be used for micropayments because it has lightweight wallets and cheap transactions.

>>14197423
>>14197715
>price will go to zero. A banned currency
Yeah pajeets everyone remembers how gold went to zero in USA when it was banned by Roosevelt.

>>14197503
Based
Been saving this

>>14197503
Except that I don't care to what fiat value Monero drops down to or not. It's the currency of the future and if it's ever banned to be purchased via fiat it will become infinitely more valuable.

1 Monero will always be 1 Monero.

>>14197802
>he doesn't know
lmao thanks for doing my arguments for me dumbass

Xmr threads here are the worst. Can't you guys fuck off into your link/bsv/shitcoin of the week threads?

Monero has left me financially ruined.

The only people who benefit from a tool like Monero are criminals

Cash is king if you want to stay on the DL

For everything else use Bitcoin, a private pseudonymous immutable ledger

Anti-Monero shills don't realize that there are already peer-to-peer exchangers that support Monero.. No exchanges, no KYC, even no DEXes.

Basically a service like ShapeShift except without KYC where you send BTC/LTC/BCH/ETH and get XMR back, and vice versa. Try banning Monero, they'll only become more widespread.

>>14197882
It was confiscated at price of $20 per oz, and after that gold price was immediately risen to $35.
Now guess what was real price on US black market, while all trading was forbidden?

>>14194967
good goy

>monero
Shit
Will
Never
Pump

I’ve hodled this coin for ages to see it bleed sats since forever ago. Just buy Grin.

>>14197988
the face price is irrelevant dumbass as it was still pegged to the dollar that time. only price adjusted with inflation matters as its shown on the chart

also, gold was never banned, it was simply banned from being hoarded as an emergency for world war, it was still accepted as payment from everyone and you still got cash back for trading it

poonero on the other hand will get banned from not only exchanges but from all stores, no store will ever accept it except drug dealers. If you can't spend your shitcoin then its worthless. If you can't convert it to cash its worthless. Enjoy your bags pajeetoid

>>14198042
> Grin
I've heard it's backed by (((Barry Silbert))).
Not sure if it's true though.

What's a good non-coinbase way to pick up xmr? I'd like to nab ~50 of 'em. I can go through coinbase the cheapest but don't know if there's any less documented options from fiat that don't charge too high a premium. Otherwise i'll just go ahead and use coinbase

>>14198042
Monero is the adoption coin rather than a HODL coin. It will pump when it gets adopted for micropayments, but it will pump really hard.

>>14198075
Grin is backed by lots of rich people who want to see it moon. Doesn’t change the fact that its motives, ideals, and goals are as pure as driven snow.

When will Filecoin and Chia likely launch mainnets?”

>>14198154
>jew detected

>>14198099
https://www.bestchange.com/bitcoin-to-monero.html
https://www.bestchange.com/ethereum-to-monero.html
No KYC, a small premium

>>14198060
> also, gold was never banned, it was simply banned from being hoarded as an emergency for world war, it was still accepted as payment from everyone and you still got cash back for trading it
Hurr durr
Honk Honk.
> Gus Farber, a diamond and jewelry merchant from San Francisco, was prosecuted for the sale of thirteen $20 gold coins without a license. Secret Service agents discovered the sale with the help of the buyer. Farber, his father, and 12 others were arrested in four American cities after a sting operation conducted by the United States Secret Service. The arrests took place simultaneously in New York and three California cities, San Francisco, San Jose, and Oakland. Morris Anolik was arrested in New York with $5,000 in U.S. and foreign gold coins; Dan Levin and Edward Friedman of San Jose were arrested with $15,000 in gold; Sam Nankin was arrested in Oakland; in San Francisco, nine men were arrested on charges of hoarding gold. In all, $24,000 in gold was seized by Secret Service Agents during the operation.

> will get banned from not only exchanges but from all stores, no store will ever accept it except drug dealers. If you can't spend your shitcoin then its worthless. If you can't convert it to cash its worthless.
But u will always be able to convert it to cash because of darknet, cash trades and dexes.
When Bitcoin becomes world's currency or when offshores will no longer exist (they are already being pressured very hard) how do u think people will launder money if not with Monero or other anonymous coins?
Not everyone is so cucked to be ready to pay 40% income taxes, and bribes will always exist too.

>>14194776
>>14194818
>>14197503
>>14197605
>>14197715
>>14197733
>>14197752
GET THE FUCK OUT OF THIS BOARD, FUCKING GOVERNMENT KEK!!!

>>14198177
Do not use this. It hasn’t been vetted by the Monero community

>>14198216
>But u will always be able to convert it to cash because of darknet, cash trades and dexes.

exactly dumbass. thats why it will always be a criminal coin. No normie will ever go on darknet or trade it for cash in real life. Only criminals would go through all that trouble. You are too dumb to realize this but the only reason all these shitcoins worth millions in mcap is because normies having been buying them from exchanges. When it gets banned all of these people will DUMP it on your face

>>14197503
bullish as fuck

>>14198267
>he thinks normies will pump his bags

Look who’s been pumping bitcoin, tether, which is run by criminals. criminals always have the most money

>>14198267
Retard, not normies are carrying the price with their $200 investments, but large money launderers.
Monero is currently at $1,65 billion market cap, imagine how it will moon if someone decides to launder as little as $1billion, which is more than half of Monero marketcap?
Normies will fomo in the time they will see how price increases.

>>14198151
Anyone who invested in Monero at any point in 2018-2019 got justed hard, if not by dumping in fiat then in opportunity cost by not investing in BTC, LTC, ETH, hell any well-established coin instead.

The joke is on the bagholders and I’m ashamed to count myself among them.

>>14198359
Are you retarded? You can’t launder money like that. The po po will just nab the criminal at the exchange.

>>14194269
dont forget the inflation will be less than btc's until the next halving.

>>14198359
> launder as little as 1bn USD
HELLO? SOME KID IS SEARCHING FOR HIS MOMMY TO PICK HIM UP

holy fuck this is the most retarded thread full of wannabes and clueless people i've seen in biz for at least a week. so many children and man children who honestly cannot 1+1 and try to sell their staggering incompetence as MUH PRIVACY COIN. XMR will go to ZERO and there's not a thing in the world you can do against it, especially not your retarded pseudo argumentation. Get a fucking education so that at least your figures come not off as totally batshit insane. "1bn in laundered money via monero. "Myass. What a braindead fucking retard.

>>14198359
>criminals will do KYC do launder their money
lmao dumbass. And even if they did, do you even know how money laundering works? after they convert to money they will immediately dump for cash. Literally a pump n dump for criminals

>>14198362
Ethereum is down from $1300. Percentage-wise about the same as Monero, even slightly worse

>>14198468
>>14198457
(((It’s scared)))

>>14194509
FPBP

>>14198545
hold on poonerotard... I thought poonero was all about rich elites hiding their wealth.. shouldn't (((they))) love it? you retards can't even get your dumb narrative straight lmao

>>14197503

>>14198457
>>14198468
U pajeet retards don't know how large is money laundering.
https://boingboing.net/2019/06/14/kyivland.html
When BTC replaces fiat, there will be no way to launder money without anonymous coins. So money will fucking flow into it and pump it to Mars. And even now it's easier to do launder money and send bribes via monero than via offshores.
> go to ZERO
> criminal coin
Cope harder. The only way it will go to zero while being used as criminal coin is if all crimes will dissapear. This won't happen because of human psychology. So u pajeets need to change ur fud strategy, it contains mutually exclusive conditions.

>>14198362
When will the pain subside?

I have a serious question. I'm an American with a very good credit score. What's stopping me from taking out a very large loan, transfering all my funds in XMR, moving it/converting it, and living the rest of my days in some 3rd world country? I have the means to take out a large sum of cash because of my work and saving, why can't i just retire early on this?

>>14196251
localmonero . co

>>14198606
so you admit this shitcoins entire usecase is just for criminals? lmao. enjoy your 1 dollar bags delusional tard

>>14198612
need to sell it quick: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2827989.680
calculate it ..21Mcap on this beauty

>>14198618
Literally nothing

>>14198618
if you like getting raped in prison go for it

>>14198618
Just because they won't be able to track what you did with the money won't mean they can't track you.

>>14197503
BSV is the official Boomer coin.

>>14198673
I wouldn't take out a federal loan. What can they do to me? Garnish wages and funds that don't exist? I'll never return to the US.

>>14198694
And? So what? I'll go to a place that won't extradite. Not to mention the bank can't do shit and in the eyes of the federal government I defaulted on a loan.

>>14198618
Theoretically nothing.
In practice, your family will get railed by the feds, and if you ever talk to them even once after that point, the feds will probably try to send them to prison for aiding and abbetting.
If you're totally alone and know another language (the Anglosphere will extradite you) you might be able to pull it off.

>>14198708
you will owe money to the bank. you either pay for it or go to prison
>>14198731
> I'll go to a place that won't extradite.
so you will go to North Korea or Iran?

>>14198633
> so entire usecase is just for criminals
Not entire, but maybe around 90%.
> 1 dollar bags honk honk
I don't even hold it atm, Monero needs to be banned first to rise in price. And it won't be banned until 2021 at least, so I have time to accumulate.
And now please again go to the article I provided and get understanding what kind of cash flow is potentially awaiting for Monero. 470 billion is almost 2x from entire crypto market cap, and it's only one case.
1 XMR will be enough for maintaining luxury lifestyle for the whole life of large family in the future.

>>14198738
What are you 12? Do you know how many people in the US default on their student loans, and can't escape them? Nothing happens. No jail, just garnishment. And as of right now you can put your funds into BTC as it's a legal grey area and the banks can't seize them.

>>14198780
There is a difference between defaulting on a loan and outright fraud.

>>14198753
>I don't even hold it atm, Monero needs to be banned first to rise in price.

imagine being this dumb. all other shitcoins pump when they get partnerships and adoption, but no, your special shitcoin will pump when it gets banned and becomes useless

>>14198780
>Do you know how many people in the US default on their student loans, and can't escape them? Nothing happens.
because they don't have money to pay them back dumbass. You will obviously have the money to pay them back, the fact that you will run away from the country is you admitting that you have the money. Bank will hunt you down like a bird. Also, how big a loan you think you can even get if you don't offer any asset as backup like mortgage?

>>14198618
Fear.

If monero gets banned it will only rise in price. Wtf do you retards think the coin is made for ?

>>14198981
>rise in price
do you even know how pricing works? price discovery happens through exchange trades. if it gets banned from exchanges there will be no price discovery. if two retards send each other poonero from their wallets it will have 0 effect on the price

>>14198846
Learn some economics pajeet.
Coins pump when there's demand for them. All these partnership news move price higher because they make the coin more desirable for people who believe in this news. So they go and put their money into this coin, demand starts overpoising bid, and thus the price rises.
So the price of a coin depends on the amount of cash that can be flown into it.
U admitted that XMR is criminal coin, and I pointed how large is criminal cash that is ready to be put into Monero.

>>14198735
>Feds will raid Joe Schmo for not paying back a loan.
Possibly one of the dumbest posts I've ever seen on biz.

>>14199037
learn some basic logic ranjeesh
if it gets banned demand for it will fall. Access to your shitcoin will become extremely hard. If criminals aren't using it now that its legal and easy they certainly wont be using it when it becomes 1000 times harder to use it and trade with it. Enjoy your criminal bags

>>14199009
It will be banned from exchanges, but only from centralized ones. But there's darknet and there are dexes and more and more of them will appear in the future.
Also there's possibility that not all countries in the world will ban XMR, so we will simply trade it on exchanges located in countries where Monero is legal.
XMR will replace offshores.

>>14199111
>OTC trades don't affect the price

>>14199133
>Also there's possibility that not all countries in the world will ban XMR
like what countries? countries that hate money and dont want to get taxes?

>>14199148
they don't moron. learn what price discovery is. two pajeets sending each other poonero from their wallets has 0 effect on the price

>>14199148
They don't. Isn't that the entire point?

>>14199111
> if it gets banned demand for it will fall
No it won't fall.
Please tell me what's the way to launder money in the world where fiat will be replaced with Bitcoin, if not via anonymous coins?
> criminals aren't using it now
They already are.

>>14199168
Shut up, imbecile nucoiner. You have no idea of what arbitrage is and got into crypto in late 2018.

>>14197954
>pseudonymous
>private
Pick one.

These threads always smell like pajeets and CIA psyops.

>>14199212
>in the world where fiat will be replaced with Bitcoin
retard
>>14199219
seethe more bagholder. see ya at 1 dollar

>>14199168
> like what countries? countries that hate money and dont want to get taxes?
Countries that are centres of offshore banking today.
Bagamas/Belize/Cyprus etc.

>>14199255
offshore banking is legal. money laundering is not

>>14199243
>no refutation, just blunt insults
Whatever nucoiner

>>14199289
refuge what dumbass? that you are going to be even poorer than you are now? you are obviously too dumb to be in this market

>>14199230
Pick both. Monero isn't private, its anonymous.

>>14199309
That OTC trades don't affect the spot price due to arbitrage. You don't even know that word lol

>>14199332
they don't moron. the fact that keep insisting it does just embarrass you more. those "otc" trades that pump the price is because the ones who sell em still had to buy them through exchanges and then resell them otc. Learn how markets work before embarrassing yourself again poorfag

>>14199243
Cope harder faggot, even bankers already know fiat is going to be replaced.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-08-02/bitcoin-needs-to-hit-213-000-to-replace-money-supply-ubs-says

>>14199404
read the article again retard

>>14199329
>he thinks there’s a difference between anonymity and privacy

You’re like the retards who think there is a difference between sex and gender

>>14199376
Fucking nucoiner. Do you realize that arbitrage doesn't even require transfer of funds? It's literally the way the market synchronizes itself. Whenever there is OTC demand, it's just a matter of time before the spot price synchs. The spot price is just a reflection, it does not cover the whole demand.

>>14199068
Depends on the size of the loan, desu. It's not just his credit score that matters but his income, and for WHAT he's getting a loan for. He can have a credit score of a perfect 850 but only make $40k a year and they'll only loan him an unsecured personal loan of 20% of his yearly income...

So he'll be fleeing the nation and live the rest of his life on... 8000 dollars, I'm sorry that's not even enough to live comfortably in Nigeria. For him to actually get "fugitive money", he'll need to be making something like a million USD a year, and at that level, what's the point in running?

>>14199476
yes moron and pricing only through OTC makes the asset extremely volatile, which will make your shitcoin even more worthless. stay poor

>>14199536
LMAO, switched to whining about volatility. BTFO.

>>14199570
>haha my shitcoin will become extremely volatile and useless! BTFO!!
lmao this is why you dumb pajeets will always be poor

>>14199536
Dumbass entire crypto is volatile.
>>14199448
> read article again
No u.
$213k per BTC is enough for it to replace fiat. It's obvious that we will see $213k or even more in the next few years. What's your problem pajeet?

>>14199626
>volatility bad
Yeah, I already see you're a nucoiner, a very late arrival.

>>14199570
Well at least now that paid shill agreed that XMR won't go to 0, lol.

>>14199626
>25 posts ITT
Craig you can stop posting now.

>>14199475
There is a difference though.

>>14199668
>volatile currencies are good
this is what happens when 30 IQ retards are allowed to use computers. stay poor
>>14199708
>10 posts by this ID
your bags wont get pumped by shilling ranjeesh

>>14199673
never said it will go to 0. I said it will go to 1 dollar. I guess 1 dollar bags must still worth something in India so you are good