/biz/ - Business & Finance

Can't wait to lose money tomorrow

>>14186335
>Also the correct analysis of the alien/UFO phenomenon is two parts Jung to one part Jacques Vallee.

explain, pls, I'm a boomer and I don't have the imagination of you young bucks

>>14186369
Yes, the econ department who graduated here should be stripped of their credentials

>>14186387
*here = her

>>14186322
have you ever been choked IRL?
have you ever choked anyone?
(with bare hands)

WINNING

>>14186422

By all means necessary.

>>14186450
I mean the girls are nice but what are you holding into Sunday futures/Monday open?

I turned 21 in late May btw 2scoops
You asked how old I was like 2 months or so ago

>>14186266
If rape kike, then de-shekeling commences.

>>14186253
I haven't watched that movie in probably close to 20 years. When I was in highschool I saw a DVD of it for sale, but the store wanted like 40 bucks and I was like fuck that.

>>14186483
All my gambling money is tied up in a BYND put option. That shit better gap the fuck down on Monday so I can cash out and move the shekels into some Uncle Powell plays.

>>14186387
essentially that the UFO phenomenon is not new or unique, and most likely is not representative of literal ayylmaos from space coming down in literal spaceships. Human history is chock full of people seeing visions of lights and flaming symbols in the sky, usually before momentous historical events or preceding spiritual/psychological revelations. Look at Constantine seeing the burning Chi-Rho before converting Rome to Christianity, Ezekiel seeing the burning chariot in the sky, or the burning Vimana from the sanskrit Vedas. Jung and Vallee both argue that people seeing these things as aliens is very new and corresponds exactly to the post WWII boom of sci-fi fiction and the collective western fascination with space and technology. Essentially people have always seen these motherfuckers in times of weirdness, and only lately has the assumption been that they're ayys. What's more likely, that seeing lights in the sky and experiencing contact with what feels like a higher presence is a psychological/mystic affectation humans have always had, or ayys just happened to find us in the last 70 years and have special ships which can violate the laws of physics?

>>14186526
Did you do something fun? Go to Vegas with friends or just get a free drink with some buds at the local college bar?

>>14186483
"He bought?"

Yes Mr. Xi, he went all in.

"Dump our US treasuries"

>>14186552
Nope, I just treated it like any other day expect that I could buy alcohol

I'm going to get some sleep, i've been sobering up all day from my week long bender and feel like calling it an early night. There's like absolutely no fucking volume on these futures because everybody is out eating overpriced Italian food. G'night everybody.

>>14186566
stay awake u bitch u got dubs
take another bump lets go

>>14186422
2900 points

So when is the market crashing?

>>14186483
>he hasn’t bought? Let’s give him more cheapies after the summit, mr. Prezdident.

>>14186691
When the boomers start dying off

>>14186387
She’s a politician, and she got a BA in a meme degree called “international relations and economics”

She’s not a fucking economist for chrissake. Next you’ll be saying that people who suck at social media should have their communications degrees revoked...

Undergrad Econ, from what I could tell, was pretty basic and not very useful, just models on supply and demand to begin with, not sure how deep it gets into monetary policy, trade, debt, or even personal finance.

She’s a fucking politician playing to her base. It’s a good rule of thumb to assume that politicians don’t mean what they say, and that they overpromise and underdeliver.

>>14186565
Jeez. I did that for my 25th, just took my midterm, got lunch with my gf, then went back to my apt to study. But 21... you only turn 21 once. Maybe plan ahead for your future birthdays so they can be a little bit fun. That way you can have some memories to look back on fondly, and at least experience a little bit of “fun” and friendship/comradery.

>>14186322
Dubs!

Would RKG rather choke a person, or be choked?

>>14186549
>and most likely is not representative of literal ayylmaos from space coming down in literal spaceships

aww cmon man

I love how everyone is so conditioned here that there is a picture of a woman literally being strangled to death in the OP but no one is saying anything about it.

>>14186824
if you haven't strangled your girl someone else has
they love that shit

leave your cope at the door kid

>>14186824
That’s a cartoon, chief.

>>14186736
Maybe I should, but I personally think it's arbitrary
The only thing that really changes is what you're legally allowed to do
Maybe I'll regret not having more fun on my 21st birthday later on, but I don't at the moment

>>14186736
Pendulum doesn't have any friends because of his social disability

>>14186874
Everyone should have frens, especially at that age

He doesn’t have a disability. He told us last thread he’s only pretending to be annoying.

>>14186938
>He's only pretending

>>14186938
>He doesn’t have a disability

he definitely has asbergers as fuck
for example last thread he just made because he could handle being wrong
he spends his days posting and reading these threads even though he just bought GALT and never moves real weight
we still love him though (no homes)

settling last threads argument

buy SQ

>>14187015
>>14186961
Not everyone who is attracted to feminine men is a mental defective...

>>14187307
exception to the rule

MY SPY PUTS IM RUINED NOOOOO. China was supposed to escalate over the weekend WTF happened.

>>14187307
>>14187307
>Not everyone who is attracted to feminine men is a mental defective...

being attracted to feminine men is most definitely still gay and a mental disorder.

The only acceptable thing (for a man) is fucking people who have completely given up and submitted to the masculine
as long at 'it', whatever 'it' is, submits fully under masculinity, I will release a fucc upon it
I will not be held responsible for any damages etc.

>>14187440
this is crab world
what do you think you're doing buying options on indices

>>14187440
China is a paper tiger. They're not going to do anything, literally. No retaliations. They're waiting it out until Biden gets into office.

>>14187440
>

>>14187528
You don't think a Buttgig/Warren ticket has a shot?

Should I sell my KO to buy KDP?

>>14187558
>You don't think a Buttgig/Warren ticket has a shot?

he thinks a faggot named buttplug and a fake indian from boston will be president.

>>14187605
if a fat orange man can do it, anything is possible.

>>14187582
honestly IMO go equal distributions KO/KDP/PEP/MNST
no reason to prioritize one over another imo

understand PEP has more 'solid' product (Frito-Lay)
Don't go too heavy into the sugar liquids overall. understand that whatever index u get will have some of these, if you want to get more of any outside of the indices, it'll be MNST or KDP

much love

>>14186824
Calm down son it’s just a drawing

>>14187633
Thanks friend

>>14187494
What is crab world

>>14187605
Bro, America is ready to make history with its first gay/woman ticket :^)

>>14187692
Sideways action

What are you wage cucks still doing awake? You're weekend is coming to an end and the boss needs a new addition to his guest house. Get to sleep and don't be late wagie

>>14187758
Okay dad

>>14187774
STOMP* *STOMP*
*CLAP*
*STOMP* STOMP*
*CLAP*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOkQJm_UGM4 [Open] [Embed]

NORMIE YOU'RE A WAGIE MAKE A BIG NOISE
SCRUBBING DOWN TOILETS, WANNA BE A MANAGER SOMEDAY
YOU GOT MUD IN YOUR RACE, A REAL BIG WAIST
DISABILITY PAYMENTS FUND HALF OF THIS PLACE, SINGIN'
WE ARE WE ARE WAL-MART
WE ARE WE ARE WAL-MART
MONGREL YOU'RE A WAGE SLAVE JEW SLAVE
GOTTA TAKE THE BUS, WANNA GET A RAISE SOMEDAY
YOU GOT ZITS ON YOUR FACE, A FLABBY WAIST
TOWING YOUR MOP BUCKET ALL OVER THE PLACE
WE ARE WE ARE WAL-MART SING IT
WE ARE WE ARE WAL-MART YEAH
VIRGIN YOU'RE A FAT MAN POOR MAN
STILL LIVING AT MOM'S, WANNA GET INSURED SOMEDAY
YOU GOT CRUST IN YOUR TAINT, 56-INCH WAIST
CORPORATE'S GONNA PUT YOU BACK INTO YOUR PLACE DO IT
WE ARE WE ARE WAL-MART YEAH YEAH COME ON
WE ARE WE ARE WAL-MART ALRIGHT LOUDER
WE ARE WE ARE WAL-MART ONE MORE TIME
WE ARE WE ARE WAL-MART YEAH

What will you buy when you get super rich /smg/?

I will buy shares on a couple major kpop companies and own all the idols and make them have lunch and dates with me.

>>14186824
Theres several trip fags that are into retarded sadist and gore fetishes, welcome to 4chan

>>14187787
Ok this is epic

>>14187692
ah let me try and explain the crab

throughout market history there are times of nice growth in equity prices, times of declines in equity prices, and times where equity prices sort of range sideways without any large coordinated moves up or down.

In times where prices bounce back and forth in a range, it is called a 'crab-like' motion, scuttling.
If you aren't familiar with watching the crabs, take a vacation to the sea-shore, or watch:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=crab+bbc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yo7Rpr_xyOU
https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph582927977725f

then you will understand how a crabs legs propel it back and forth.

so in economic times there can be a bull market, of long increases in equity value, where buying calls and shares is very nice.
or there can be a bear market, where things trend downward, when buying puts and shorting shares is nice.
In a crab market you have to be worried about options that you buy decaying to zero as the market lurches to and fro. More than that, right now, there is so much uncertainty about monetary policy.

[[continued in nexto posto]]

>>14187787
Jesus Christ almighty

>>14187787

>>14187558
there's only one guy who has a shot

>>14186322
So how do you screen for stocks to trade? Volatility? %chg?

>>14188031
The fundamentals are already priced in

Markets work on narrative, they work on story

Company that can control its story: long term hold
Company that's about to change its story: swing trade
Company that loses control of its story: sell sell sell

>>14187891
>>14187692

So attached to this post is a graph of SPX/USD for the last few decades
remember that in the time shown on this graph, the first human landings on the moon and many metallurgical innovations had already occurred.
SPX (in dollars !! tracks the value of stocks of the largest 500 US companies by market cap)
the economic growth that you are seeing comes from multiple places. In the US, the population of the middle class was still growing for much of the duration you can see. Also, the rise of the transistor and the personal computer occur, as well as the rise of the internet and the modern service-based economy.
All in all, one of the most interesting periods in human history. Please remember to savor every moment that you get to experience, it is an extremely unique and potent moment for any sentient species to experience times like the ones we are going through.

now, the picture attached shows several colors of wavy lines in the future of the SPX.

the negative case (in red) shows current monetary policy and government control failing, and even with money pumped in by the FED as a last resort, equity prices still fall.

the positive case (in green/gold) is the golden bull. maybe the fed and government and large corporations saying that everything is fine is enough to carry equity prices up. Or maybe the FED pumping money in again does it's job. either way, the indices advance upward.
The other possibility that takes us along this road is some technological breakthrough.
it seems as if the internet alone won't help sell any more product than it is selling right now.
but maybe a new superconducting material, neutron shield, super-neutron dense or super-proton dense material could really shake things up to the upside. Asteroid mining. genetic engineering. self driving, flying cars. Chinese weed companies in space. whatever you want to imagine, to fuel significant new buying

>>14188063
>>14187692

now the third case is the real one.
besides the bullish and bearish cases
awaits the crab
for as long as economic market indices have existed there has been a nice economic growth. OK great. But it doesn't mean it will always be so.

There is the possibility, for the next decade of two, that things will go sideways. This will be the result of the following:
no significant geopolitical unrest (world war 3, etc.)
no massive commodity shortage (oil or food runs out)
no massive ecological disaster (hard case global climate change)
no sudden technological breakthrough (asteroid mining, etc.)
no super unstable monetary policy, not enough to unleash massive growth but enough to prevent things from falling apart

in the crab case, things don't exhibit the same amazing growth we've seen for the past century. Properties don't become massively more valuable just by existing, companies can't sell 10% more product every year just for existing, etc. but at the same time, the global financial system keeps things 'on the rails' enough that we aren't all eating flesh and trading silver coins and cigarettes

Oh well, if the market shits next week, least your Divvy Friends will keep you safe. Then if you got spare cash on hand; take the gifts the market gives you and buy the fucking mega dip while it lasts! If Amazon shits down to under 1k, buy that shit up I say. You know it'll go back up over time. All the more Profit for you to take.

>>14186322 (dubs)
>It’s just a full days drive away... it’s just a full days drive away...

What’re you shorting bbgrl?

Will you choke me if I choke you too?

Satoshi is an Ayyyy and Butcoin is an alien intelligence invading from the future.

>>14188031
> to trade

anyone who trades intraday (only a couple people in these treads, only one or two who post and claim to make gains) do it based on the charts, and mostly based on something with enough volume and price movement to make the magic happen.

if you're talking about mix-duration trading, you can really screen based on whatever you can imagine


>>14188166
AMZN under 1k in a week is unlikely
love yield (Mr. Divvy and Dr. Divvy) and safety and a bit of cash right now. But yeah, cash can be challenged by that bittersweet QE. so not too much in paper

Jerome do your thing ~~


>>14188059
I like so many things about your post but I have to pick out the parts I disagree with
>The fundamentals are already priced in
mostly, hopefully not entirely.
'fundamentals' are all-encompassing. but for the 'simple' investor that comes in these threads, any 'simple' notion that you have about a stock or that you've read about in an article is already priced in, yeah.

>Company [....] its story:
the truth is: Company [....] its earnings:
numbers don't lie, money don't lie. at the end of the day, every quarter, year, whatever, these companies have to bring in dollars. if they don't, no story in the world is going to save the price of their stock.

>>14188166
Oh you know you could always Bag Disney stock. Disney will always be there long as Florida don't sink like a rock from the global warming shit.

P.S Global warming is true as shit. My state I've noticed it first hand. Pretty much actual winter is a thing of the past now. We have kinda cold days but nowhere like what we did when I was young. Hardly any snow either. We get now this; rain and heat mostly. No actual Fall weather either. (Live in KY btw)

>>14186691

Q1 2021

>>14187030

Spicy.

I hope all this shit surrounding TGT causes the stock to shit hard to $60 per. They recently hiked the Divvy to 0.64 per.

PLACE YOUR BETS NOW, WILL FUTURES BE GREEN OR RED MONDAY?!?!

only 30 more minutes until we find out!

>>14188788
Blue

>>14188300
clinically braindead post

Powell needs to raise rates and crash this market. It's for the good of the economy and for the good of my SPY puts. You know what needs to be done Powell.

>>14187750
>>14187891
>>14188063
>>14188150
GENTLEMEN. IRON CONDORS ARE THE WAY OF THE FUTURE IVE SAID THIS MANY TIMES.

>>14182749
>these days, there is influence on everything, especially on social media/high traffic internet places.
>so it will somewhat cancel out in the end in this case, the Chinese internet activism is certainly as strong as what the CIA can project. In the case of something like Libya, then sure the CIA can influence more sway than the local state.
About social media, why is Facebook and Whatsapp deleting activists account when people post messages against Chinese/Hong Kong government?
>If you could leave, with your family, would you?
yes
>>14183161
>Relatively speaking they hate China less than US, and there's a fine reason for that
They "hate" China less than the US because South Korea was backed by the US with their solider there, but China is a greater "threat" to both North Korea and an unified Korea, because of their geographical proximity and also the historical ties. Also it should be noted that the current border between North Korea and China is not recognized by South Korean government especially for the part related to the "Holy Mountain" (Mountain Baekdu/Changbai) so that could be a possible source of conflict after unification.
>> [pic related].
Which was because of North Korea's action
>Unified Korea would get lot more pressure from US, it'd be Chinafriendly (relatively speaking) economic giant with animosity towards Japan and US. That's not something US "indopacific security strategy" needs, if they want to kneecap China.
Even the situation between South Korea and Japan nowadays have been destabilized to a point where military conflict could happen in any minutes.

>>14189446
damn, stay safe HK bro

>>14186322
Why do you want to buy BDT? For burgers?

What are you shorting anyways?

>>14189007
talk shit about the T Babies poster = bad karma

>>14189446
>About social media, why is Facebook and Whatsapp deleting activists account when people post messages against Chinese/Hong Kong government?
because the Chinese government government pays them?
do you have a sister or daughter between the ages of 'at least 18'?
I can get you out of HK and into the land of the free (and prosperous :^) )

It would be great (and surprising) if the US could somehow maintain status quo in Asia

speaking of Mountain Baekdu/Changbai

what do you think the best course of action would be for western nations to take to allow peace and stability for eastern nations?
much love as always, thanks for all your posts :)

I hold $10k of AURORA CANNABIS in an IRA. Should I sell it all for a mutual fund? Weed stocks have done nothing but suck dick in 2019

>>14189446
What broker do HK /smg/bros use? (Going to work there for a few months).

>>14190054
Take this opportunity to learn a lesson about not going all-in.

Buy in controlled bursts, or tranches. Open your position, buy dips, sell when you've made good profits, or if the narrative has changed and you no longer believe in you're original thesis.

I don't like ACB personally, seems like CGC is the winner, HEXO is good as a spec, and CRON will benefit from its relationship with MO.

cannabis isn't hot right now, It's taken a beating from the FDA position on CBD. I'm selling on the pumps and buying on the dumps, but I'm bagholding to an embarrassing degree.

>>14189980
That post is straight stupid though. Why would you trust one observation of a seasonal oddity over years of objective data about the climate?

T-Babies poster may actually be slightly R-tarded. Not just because of this, he also doesn't seem to understand that dividends are to offset a lack of share-value appreciation.

He's not as bad as some other posters, like the R*rtard

Elon has gone crazy

>>14190186
I have lost $7k but haven’t sold ACB. It’s an awful company with the dilution and offerings

>>14190195
what the fuck

>>14186526
>Noted.

>>14190195
>it's real
what the fuck.

>>14190195
>>14190251
>>14190273
>No more boneheaded questions you guys. If you ask any bonehead questions I'm gonna just, I'll go on youtube and have my quarterly conference call regarding the financial state of tesla and the past quarter's earnings report on superchat, with random youtubers instead of financial analysts.

He's got a very high opinion of himself, and a cult like following that celebrates his antics. This is nothing new, it's all part of the Elon show.

>>14190306
>, I'll go on youtube and have my quarterly conference call regarding the financial state of tesla and the past quarter's earnings report on superchat, with random youtubers instead of financial analysts.

Based

>>14190139
>What broker do HK /smg/bros use? (Going to work there for a few months).
I just use the stock trading service in my bank account.

>>14190221
That's a bummer man, but it's important that you're in touch with your mistakes, and you're not pretending to be stoic despite your lack of experience.

I'm not following ACB, but I doubt it's near the top right now, so I'd wait until the sector rebounds from the HEXO disappointment. Not sure, market could be in for turmoil this week. Someone more insightful than me is needed to assess where the broader market is headed right now.

>>14190348
That's a rip-off isn't it?

>>14187528
The United States of America is simply a vehicle. A vehicle controlled by the highest bidder(s). China, Russia, European, Various Middle eastern groups, JEWS of course, Americans themselves etc. all fight for controll out whoever bids the highest gets controlled, Jews made it this way for themselves but other interests are exploiting it now. Look how much shit the Chinese do and get away with. Fucking feinstein was passing her limo driver intel for years and no one did shit about it

>>14190361
i get its a joke but jesus christ that thing is terrifying to look at

>>14189980
>speaking of Mountain Baekdu/Changbai
>what do you think the best course of action would be for western nations to take to allow peace and stability for eastern nations?
A question is, do you think stability = peace? Like what China have been doing at Xinjiang have bring stability and "peace" to the area, but do you think they are actual peace?
>>14190375
Indeed the trading fee etc. are higher, but too lazy to actually look up and register dedicated broker when I am not actually buying/selling that much

>>14190465
>do you think stability = peace?
Not the anon you replied to, but this is really interesting, especially when you talk about Xinjiang. What China has managed to do to the people there has made them completely unable to resist, they have become docile. China has "tamed" these people. But would I call that peace? No.

The people who suffer the most under tyranny are the people at the bottom, the poor and powerless. But who suffers the most during times of chaos, revolution, or barbarism like after the fall of Rome? Again, I think it's the poor, the peasants at the bottom with little to get them through those times.

So what is to be done for these people? What can be done?

>>14190514
>So what is to be done for these people? What can be done?
I don't really know.
In general, for such situation, leftist would think helping them financially, bridge them to world economy and boost their social development so that the government no longer need to suppress the people to keep them in order can help. But China have shown this doesn't work
Conversely, rightist would think sanction and military actions can pressurize countries accepting the world's rule and order. However Iran and North Korea have shown it doesn't work either
Another alternative is direct military action, but as you said it's always the general public that will suffer the most during this sort of time, and there's also no guarantee that western countries can create a responsible government that would upheld freedom in those countries after those military actions end as you can see in decolonized African countries. Same problem for sponsored civil unrest as you can see in Libya and Egypt.
A world government that have actual power to rule governments could be a way, but European Union have shown that such inter-government agency create more problem than it can solve, and UN have also shown that there's no guarantee such organization would follow western principle of freedom.

>Futures are (slightly) green
hooray!

but its june, so volume will be nonexistent for the next few months

so what hot new penny stocks are people preparing to gamble their life savings on?

>>14190862
> leftist would think helping them financially, bridge them to world economy and boost their social development so that the government no longer need to suppress the people to keep them in order can help

> rightist would think sanction and military actions can pressurize countries accepting the world's rule and order.

Great showcase of what a terrible distinction without difference these terms are in US political context; when they both aim for the same result (a more globalized world economy to work for US)

> A world government that have actual power to rule governments could be a way
as envisaged by Wilson, House and Grey.

You forgot the last one, which is contra American liberal imperialism, which is to do absolutely nothing. Of course such action escapes many big brains.

>>14190465
> too lazy to actually look up and register dedicated broker when I am not actually buying/selling that much

Hmm okay I opened an IB account. Had to do this 'mini-exam' for options which is just basic Series 7 shit. There was this other local broker that was really similar to Robinhood but now they have this weird fee structure so fuck that.

>>14186736
>>14186483
If China dumps treasuries, I'm going all in.

>>14191196
>If China dumps treasuries
Why would they willingly neck themselves

>>14191205

The only reason why they would do it is if they rationally think dumping treasuries would damage the USA more than it would China. Russia for example has drastically cut it's US treasuries but it also had a lot less to begin with.

This Hong Kong situation to the Chinese must reek of foreign interference to the Communist leadership and will be a further reason not to talk with Trump at G20.

If they don't sweat out even a tentative deal at G20 and Trump slams more tariffs...then I think the Chinese are going to finally respond in a way that will hurt Trump domestically.

The FANG stocks are vulnerable to a shock, they'll ban rare earth metals to the USA.

>>14191357
>Chinese bans rare earth
>fang and tech lead market down
>trump issues press conference: guys, this is just like last yearC remember when I told you all
To buy the dip and you made a lot of money if you listened?
>market pumps itself, maybe with a little PPT help
>oh my god America is great again
China btfo.

>>14191417

That could have turned into a complete rout if the Fed didn't pivot.

I remember being on /biz/ in late December and January with all the doom and gloom headlines, only when Powell backed off the rate increases did the market respond really favorably.

We've been riding on the fumes of a possible trade deal since then. The May/early June correction was off the back of negativity on Mexico/China. And then Powell was "ready to act" and Trump did a chickenshit deal with Mexico at the behest of his son-in-law.

No doubt the Fed still has tricks in it's bag, but they only have a small amount of percentage points to cut before they are back to zero and then they'll have to do QE9000.

See pic related.

is a Random walk down wallstreet a good book ?

>>14188300
>P.S Global warming is true as shit.
meanwhile harvests are shit around the world because of cold weather crop losses
btw buy corn, price going to 5.3

>>14191574
He is not cutting unless tradewar megafailure, see this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcTWUBWfVLI

>we have to act now to be prepared later
ie we have to "hike" now to be prepared later
if he is given the possiblity he will hike, so be deathly afraid of good news (on inflation rise or trade war or whatever), since they only encourage him.
on the other hand he seems to be more open to QE so we might have a weird QE+rate hike situation if things go half bad

>>14191650

There would be absolutely no purpose in hiking rates and doing QE. They only did QE because they couldn't cut rates further in 2010.

If China really blew up and inflation started ticking up due to the increased costs of Chinese goods, then he might be forced to hike. But he would have cut first to offset the initial downturn in stocks.

>>14191753
>There would be absolutely no purpose in hiking rates and doing QE
saving the boomers pensions is the obvious one
meanwhile rates need to be hiked to keep the dollar up

>>14191753
>>14191778
You might think im describing an unrealistic "eat your cake and have it too" scenario but listen to the speech
unconventional is about to become conventional dude

>>14191778

Hiking rates is restrictive, whilst QE is expansive. It makes no sense.

>>14191791

Unconventional just means Modern Monetary Theory and QE9000 m8.

What if Trump is engaging in a trade war with China to prevent the Fed from raising rates

>>14191809
>Hiking rates is restrictive, whilst QE is expansive. It makes no sense
it makes perfect sense
QE is only expansive for assets, see it as a targeted expansive policy coupled with a general restrictive stance (the later which Powell has already been shown to have a bias for)
it also solves the problems that the US would face in a prolonged trade war, where inflation goes up while not killing the stock market

it is the optimal boomer outcome and should be regarded as a possibility

>>14191847

Never thought about it that way. I always thought they'd use up their rate cuts first in an attempt to kickstart the economy before bring QE back.

>>14187787
Based and wagie pilled.

>>14191357
>if they rationally think dumping treasuries would damage the USA more than it would China

Which is false.

Buy amd puts now

>>14192125
Or at least by lunch, i see the waterfall tomorrow/aftermarket

When is the next target date for potential rate changes of the Fed?

>>14192275

Market has priced in 30% chance of a cut for June and 80% for July.

It would be glorious if they were disappointed for both. I have a feeling June won't be a cut, G20 meeting will shit the bed and the Fed will be under intense pressure to cut in July.

>>14192431
That wasn't what I meant, I was talking about the next date (like tomorrow or whatever) since everybody is talking about rate changes in this thread, which means the next target date must be near.

>>14192826
https://www.federalreserve.gov/monetarypolicy/fomccalendars.htm

>>14192836
Thx, Fren

>>14192275
also, although (as said in>>14192431)
>Market has priced in 30% chance of a cut for June and 80% for July.
is what is being pushed for in media etc we need to remember what happened in december and take our information straight from the source
ex see the april/may statement
https://www.federalreserve.gov/monetarypolicy/files/monetary20190501a1.pdf

>In determining the timing and size of future adjustments to the target range for the federal
funds rate, the Committee will assess realized and expected economic conditions relative to its
maximum employment objective and its symmetric 2 percent inflation objective. This
assessment will take into account a wide range of information, including measures of labor
market conditions, indicators of inflation pressures and inflation expectations, and readings on
financial and international developments

TL:DR
there are 4 variables that will shape Powells decision
>trade war
>inflation
>labor market
>stonk market

labor market is more or less a stable variable, so fokus will be on the other 3

for insight in what Powells stance is, see speech >>14191650 at 2:44
or maybe look at what happened in december

$VRUS 10-Q dropped.

153% increase in risk quarterly revenue from the same period last year.

Almost $3 million in revenue for Q2 2019.

Assets are higher than debt.

Yikes, imagine not having bought $VRUS.

>>14192125
>>14192179
the time to buy AMD puts was last friday

(well earlier last week would have been better time)

>>14193120
What's the catch though

Heh, Retarded am I? Well I dunno, I've manged to hang on to my investment money even with the market shits lately. Hell I'm up by 2.66%. So I must be doing something right. Least I'm not down in the debt shit hole by 20k or more. Actually my only debt period is my house.

Chinese President Xi will visit North Korea.
https://twitter.com/HuXijin_GT/status/1140575110333521920

>>14193120
Do you think that justifies their market cap?

UK launches Chinese ADRs and vice versa. Bong companies can now list on China.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/business-48658844

>>14193223
It's on the OTCPINX.

>>14193253
It doesn't matter. All it needs to do is run. The OTC is pretty much exclusively retail investors.

They hear good news, they buy the fuck out of it. It spikes.

That brings in the day traders, they buy.

It goes parabolic. Then you sell it.

>>14193361
I know how it works.... but how far do you think it'll run? it already has a pretty big market cap....

>>14193372
Again. The market cap doesn't matter.

What matters is if you think the people holding the shares are going to sell it.

If you look at $VRUS's chart it's held gains in excess of 800% for a year.

Partly due to the demeanor of the "longs" and partly due to it being almost 50% held by insiders and institutions.

I can see this hitting $0.1 before mass dumping takes place.

>>14193415
Market cap does matter though..... in otc share structure and market cap matter... how many more millions do you think can pour into VRUS?.. just trying to pick your brain on this one..

check out RBII it might make a good run here soon.. as well as SIML

>>14193447
Not in the way that is used to value the company.

A high market cap with a low price is indicative of a huge float.

A high market cap with a high price means that you missed the run.(I know you mentioned share structure but I'm spelling this out for spectators)

There are no toxic notes in the $VRUS share structure so you have to consider if the insiders and institutions are going to dump into the market.

I have good reason to believe through DD that they won't. So that's 50% of the float already "locked up".

Next are the "whale" retail holding huge chunks of shares. It's obviously not an exact science to gauge whether someone is actually married to an OTC stock or just pumping. But if you travel OTC message boards you can get a good feel for it.

For example I know the longs at $KBLB are married to the company. Which is why it was able to run from $0.06 to $0.51 with almost a billion shares outstanding.

MAXR

>>14191585
Yes

I bought amd at 32.50

Should i sell? Or am i already fucked

so that premarket got choppy fast, asia is greening up because hong kong backed down to protesters, but is iran about to throw another wrench into that? (10 days until IRAN surpasses their enrichment allowance)

whats the plans for today, open some shorts in the morning, flip to longs by the afternoon?

>>14193988
nice digits!

>>14194016
most of it is common knowledge if you know statistics well (or took a probability class that used integrals)
not at all a bad book though

>>14194031
already fucked if you are trying to swing trade it, but long term it probably will go up

might be a month or so before it crosses $32 again, so how patient are you?

>>14194069
Not very because all I've done is make bad calls for a while. Guess I'll just hodl and hope that the new hardware pushes it back up

>>14194031
It's going to rise back eventually. You might need to hold for a few weeks to months, though. And as >>14194069 said, swing trading is probably going to fuck you up even more. Just hold for now.

Both bull runs this and last year were on back of the expectations of Ryzen 3000 assraping Intel. In less then a month, it releashes, and it seems AMD is still sandbagging quite a bit in regards of it. I expect great things from it.

crash ett

I'm BYND fucked. Meatless meats are going to bankrupt me and I'll have to eat out of the McDonald's dumpster.

https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2019/06/17/1869579/0/en/VERUS-INTERNATIONAL-INC-REPORTS-153-INCREASE-IN-QUARTERLY-REVENUE-FORECASTS-RECORD-GROWTH-FOR-FISCAL-2019.html

God damn, they pull in 153% YOY revenue growth, $2.1 mil in profits AND schedule a conference call?

There is no way $VRUS isn't running today.

>>14194092
every time they pop up +10% they have a big pullback soon after

people like to overhype AMD, because they do have real potential to upend the major giants in their markets

the thing is, they cant do that to their competition yet (in the next few years, but not within the next few months)
people who like to FOMO into AMD tend to forget about that, then they sell their bags for a loss, even though DCA'ing would make them so much more money

AMD is a textbook stock where you sell the news, instead of buying into it

you sell when it goes up, buy when it goes down (like right now/ this upcoming week or two)

stop trying to time the market, you wont win in the long run, you arnt a big enough whale to win by going against the market

>>14194437

fair enough. Still irritating. Guess I'm gonna hold, maybe sell half and put it in my other tech darling during a pull back. Cheers fren

>>14194334
Have you had enough gay sex today?

>>14194528
Just be patient, and try not to do anything you'll regret in the future

>>14194564
I haven't had any gay sex today. That's enough for me.

>>14194334
eventually BYND shorts will win

its just a matter of how long they can go on like this

>>14194564
is that an offer?

Ror! Sorry I've been out guys. Work has been picking up. Plus crab market is boring. Will check in periodically!

Sell AMD so I can buy cheapies

i got a job interview.....no more neetdom for me....im going to put all my newly earned money into an etf like a good boy

>>14195029
Damn right when I was hoping you'd never come back.

>>14195065
Be grateful. It can get much worse.

IT'S GONNA BE A GREEN DAY BOYS

>>14195208
Not for me.. I need BYND to shred like 2 billion in market capitalization.

>>14191574
Jesus... damn.

Who else expects an outcome like this? If I had to guess, I’d say the most likely outcome right now is the bottom right, the red death corner

>>14195065
Seriously, our most brain damaged poster.

>>14195277
R
O
R
!

>>14194368
JFC... this is another one where I keep thinking it’s too late. But today, I’m now sure it really is too late.

some interesting trading going on with LCI...

Godspeed, AMD - Daddy needs cheapies!

>>14195350
Five million in volume in five minutes.

Fuck!

What a move! What a move!

$VRUS broke $0.03!

TONIGHT'S THE NIGHT BOIS

>>14192910
DO FEED REALLY CARE ABOUT NORMIE STUFF LIKE THIS?

> mfw ARRY

Aaaahhhhh Chewy, why?!
I gotta get someone to handle my money for me before I blow it all away.

>>14195527
What normie stuff? Fed is normies.

>>14195562
>WOAH A BIOTECH GOT BOUGHT OUT WOW

This happens all the time bud

>>14195562
wow, what's up there?

typical summer holiday volatility and volume nao. bitcorn unironically mooning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVpZckIRa4o

>>14195611
It got bought out

I'm BYND retarded.... Who knew that meatless Mondays was going to actually be a thing? Fucking stupid stock has gone full retard.

>>14195652
Pfizer, $10 billion

>>14195663
Your pain actually causes me pleasure.

>>14195562
first time eh?
thats why people gamble with biotechs, because even though most decay to nothing, some get bought out, if you hold long enough, and believe hard enough
>not really, but you get the idea

>>14195626
but mooning for how long? when is too late to buy? when is time to sell?

>and which "bitcorn" do you mean

>>14195663
>I'm BYND retarded
we know.....

>>14195503
$VRUS Bros how long you planning on holding?

why isn't the market crashing on bad economic news?

>>14195911
what if I told you the market goes up overtime and everyone has become wise to this so they no longer just sell as soon as they hear bad news..

>>14195911
pension managers moving blue collar worker money to prop up the SPY while the hedge funds exit long positions

>>14195911
We’re at the point in the rate cycle where bad news is good news.

>>14195626
Ataris were still making music in 2011?
Giving me them nostalgic feels bruh.

Glad I bought some BTC and ETH, wish I had taken less profits though... I didn’t believe and hodl.

>>14195949
>>14195950
>>14195976

clown market bro easy money betting on the down side

>>14195949
Hey brah, what's going on?

>>14195911
Jerome fucking Powell that's why.

>>14195911
Let’s see, Facebook got into crypto hodl 420 blaze it memes, this caused a irrational forward move on FAANG then Netflix hyped people up with tonight’s financial results released, this causes amazon and google to break their strong resistances which could cause the legendary golden bull.

>>14195911
who knows. this market has made me so fucking manic I just pulled the trigger and went all in on BYND. Fuck it, only thing that consistently goes up lmao

>>14196088
your crazy man

>>14196088
F

>>14195911
crash is scheduled for Wednesday, not Monday

>>14196088
This is literally the textbook definition of FOMO

>>14196116
Ford has been in a secular downtrend for like five years, GTFO of here with that shit

>>14196162
made me laugh anon

>>14196162
kek

THREADLY REMINDER THAT DIVIDENDS ARE YOUR FREN

what industries are most resilient to economic downturn and what are hit hardest?

I assume REIT's and financials get fucked hard

Am I the only person ITT that's getting BYND fucked right now? There had to be some one else trying to sabotage the moon mission.

>>14196247
based and divvypilled

>>14196247
Dividends are for pussies, weekly options are where the fun is at

>>14196261
consumer staples / consumer discretionary

>>14196271
I don’t fuck with cult stocks man. No Beyond Meat, no Tesla, no Chipotle.

>>14186526

>>14196271
You're one of the most retarded people here so yeah probably.

APRN is up by 1400% today

>>14196349
if you weren't retarded you'd see through the ruse

>>14196414
beat me too it, but seriously wtf

>>14196414
stock split my man it's up 2%

>>14196414
>>14196454
based retards

>>14196271
I will try and catch a short on BYND since it's obviously being manipulated, but my stop-loss will be tight as hell

>>14196314
u should be shorting chipotle right now (CMG puts or short)
look for BYND puts carefully, if no one is willing to sell you any without ridiculous premium, then don't buy ;^)

How are my pennyshit bros doing today? I'm up on my LCI and NAKD so I'm not doing half bad, but I thought there's be more buzz around NAKD earnings, hopefully volume picks up around mid day

Don't forget to buy your suicide bag of NAKD

>>14196487
As a retard, can I ask how the stock splitting would make the share value increase 1400 percent?

>>14196414
>>14196454
>they never heard the story of DRYS (the greek shipping company without any ships)
+1400% is smalltime for a good ol' PnD

Who here BYNDchad?

>>14196564
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/reversesplit.asp

>>14196560
True bottom on NAKD is 26 cents, I recommend buying in here and selling at 32-45 cents

>>14196582
I feel like a lean hog, butchered, and fucked in the ass.

>>14196629
ah, ty

>>14196564
reverse split: the share price increases but the # of shares decrease so that the over value doesn't change

split: number of shares increase while the price of the share decreases and the overall value doesn't change.

>>14196678
sounds like a joke my dad would use, desu

still funny but just reminds me of something he'd say

>tfw no TGT cheapies

>>14196662
I want NAKD to pump, I have a limit sell at 32 cents and I could really use the good fortune

GALT recovering

GALTMARINES

WHAT SAY WE

Who bought CHWY at the top?

what the fuck is chewy anyways? is it like dog food?

>>14196890
Yessir, yes I did. Chalking up another mistake.

>>14196839
It won't be today lad, it'll probably be tomorrow or wednesday morning

>>14196898
>what the fuck is chewy anyways? is it like dog food?
It's like the Amazon of pet shit I believe, anything and everything you could think of for your pets online, and membership discounts

>>14196864
about time

>>14196864
WE ARE THE GALT MARINES
AND WE WILL NEVER SELL


also last call for CMG puts, everyone buy these nice long dated CMG puts now

>>14196959
oh gotcha, thanks

>>14196959
How is that different from pets.com?

>>14196935
Thanks, anon

>>14196864
>>14196985
>>14196973
These seemingly large moves up and down are nothing compared to what will happen when we get real news
When we get real news (approved protocol for NASH-RX trial, possible IO partnership or BO, expansion of IO trial) then we'll see real upward price action (they already raised money for the NASH-RX trial with the RO, and there's no way a NASH-RX protocol, IO trial expansion, or BO/partnership could be seen as bad news)

>>14197040
They actually have customers.

Something like 90% of their purchases are subscription based, so they just keep repeating every month.

The reason they’re not profitable is because of their spending on getting new customers. Like amazon, if they wanted to become profitable, they would just need to decrease their spending. And they’re already close to profitable as is. Closer than most of the other IPOs.

>>14197040
It isn't in any way, I guess they just do pets.com well enough to be a competitor

This is a trendy recent IPO bubble, wait for it to pop

>>14197105
>it isn’t in any way
It’s been nearly 20 years and the world is a much different place.

E-commerce was just speculation with pets.com. Was amazon anything more than an online bookstore at that time? Certainly, we didn’t have Walmarts and targets making major internet plays.

Am I the only one here expecting a rate cut soon to prolong the bull market just a little.

>the stock market is taking heavy fire, we need a rate cut to keep it afloat!!

Uhhh... at what point are we overbought? When do I buy sqqq or tvix? Feels like it’s time for a pullback or a little bearing.

Cute rat?
Gore-fetishist ESL girl?

>>14197174
Man, I'd be really surprised if daddy P announced a rate cut. I think the prudent approach would be to say they are keeping an eye on things. If they cut now and the trade shit gets resolved, they look like dumbasses.

>>14197235
>Feels like it’s time for a pullback
very insightful anon, thank you

>CNBC reporting on “baby shark”
Fuck me, smg beat the MSM to the big story again

>>14197277
Don’t talk down to me, Dr. Peterson. I’m doing my best.

Nice dubs btw

Feels like it's about time for the premier mineless mining co (NAK) in the world to have another meme run to $3

>>14190195
Well, the stock seems to be squeezing now.

AMD getting raped

Ooh Cresco Labs you bounce so sexy.

>>14197497
AMD was overvalued based on hype, wait a bit more and grab those cheapies.

I swear to god there's some fucking big money player monitoring this fucking thread for the sole purpose of finding what ever my positions are so they can fuck me.

>>14195663
Did you get into BYND just for the puns?

>>14196568
They always had ships, but I'm pretty sure their CEO was using them for cocaine parties with prostitutes.

>>14197665
Baggie I'm sorry, I appreciate your sacrifice to this thread though, maybe shill the opposite of your actual position and see if your luck changes?

>>14197746
I thought he did that for one week though and actually made money

>>14197764
If that's true idk why he'd go back to losing money, weird coincidence tho

Bought some weekly call debit spreads on AMD

This is going to be my actual investment portfolio once I'm out of penny shit (minus Fiverr I just wanted to watch the IPO) what do you guys think? Additions or suggestions?

Halp plz. Need a medium to high IV stock in the $10-15 range to write covered calls on, can't seem to make up my mind.

>>14197811
Looks good, you might get some MSFT and PEP for nice growth/div stocks

>>14197811
I'd switch out ACB for TSLA if you want to go long on 420 stuff

>>14197809
Got a AMD short at 33.60, gonna ride it down to 16

> mfw AMD

I like where this is going. Probably waiting until the Fed announcement before deciding when to buy back in.

>>14197903
I don't think it'll get that low, but I'm rooting for you.

>>14197811
Why are you in penny shit?

>>14197903
Nice, my play assumes bears run out of gas and there's a small bump mid-week before it resumes downward. I was just looking to get in and out. Not sure about $16, but $24-$25 range is probable over the next month or so imo.

>>14195277
> the red death corner
yellow is actually the worst
and the most likely

>>14197852
FEYE?

Henlo frens, brainlet here. Can someone how Axon is getting hit so hard? I kinda wanna pick some up but too scared to buy in this environment.

>>14197811
I prefer Cisco to century link, CGC to acb, and NVIDIA to amd... but I do like amd if it goes down a bit more. Both have good management but too culnerable to tradewar, I’m waiting for a bigger pullback.

Not a bad port IMO depending on how you balance it. I hope you’ve got VTI or another index tracking fund too.

Oh and start smoking. Buy MO

>>14198127
looks like they're being sued

>>14198015
Shit. You’re right.
And I have no PM

>>14198184
Oof thanks

thoughts on VTI? for me it sounds like a good investment. 10% rentability on 5 years.

>>14191585
Yes

>>14198499
underperforms the SP500 with a higher beta

>>14198667
could you elaborate a bit?

>>14198696
No

>>14198667
>small cap will always underperform large cap
"no"

>>14198499
VTI is basically including small caps (russel 2000) which sp500 (VOO) wouldn't

small caps have underperformed lately

>>14198696
Do you want higher total returns or lower short term volatility?
VTI is not really great for either of those

>>14198696
He's saying (I don't agree with him) that you could get better returns with less volatility in SPY

>>14196568
tell me more about this PnD anon

Wobbly market these past couple of days. Everyone waiting for FOMC.

>>14198793
Or better yet USMV or SPLV

>>14198785
to be honest i want a safe long-term investment, so i don't really care about volatility but total returns on the long run, since i'm planning to hold on ETFs or maybe index funds. i don't know which is better yet.

>>14198886
>so i don't really care about volatility but total returns on the long run
Then look into leverd funds

>>14198886
People advicing against VTI are assuming USA will keep outperforming RoW in the long run. If you compare P/E ratio's of USA versus EM or Europe, you'll see this is a risky bet.

>>14198886
S&P up 15% this year 20% last year.. u decide

Ah feels good just waking up and checking all of my green investments. Your 15 minute (unpaid) lunch break is over wagies, get back to work, daddy needs a new boat.

>>14198915
you mean leveraged funds?

>>14190195
it's nearing the end of the quarter wonder how bad earnings is gonna be

>>14198953
yes

>>14198931
what is RoW?

>>14198915
Have fun paying higher fees and getting less return due to slippage.

What the fuck is wrong with the price of PLUG? I swear this stock makes no sense. Dumps on good news, will continue to bleed, but then suddenly will pump without warning

>>14198998
QLDs returns more than make up for it

>>14198991
Rest of World

>>14198972
No

Ok so why not just hit VOO if worried about US market?

>>14198972
>Leverage is a double-edged sword meaning it can lead to significant gains, but it can also lead to significant losses. Investors should be aware of the risks to leveraged ETFs since the risk of losses is far higher than those from traditional investments.

so normal ETFs and index funds are better?

This is BULL SHIT, fuck you Fidelity...

>>14199014
In an extreme bull market, yes. When market goes up less significantly or sideways (or even down) you're gonna get double penetrated.

>>14199035
>so normal ETFs and index funds are better?
They have less short term volatility

>>14199017
oh, so you mean that VTI has other better competitors on Europe? which are the main ones?

>>14199054
Sell options on you position to balance it

>>14199045
Nice chart fren

>>14199045
ironically 99% of the people in this thread think they can beat the market by picking stocks

Ratsu
GIS vs BGS?

This is Martin Shkreli's portfolio posted on his blog 23 May 2019 from prison... Only his shorts are good so far

>>14199060
Fuck nvm, I thought VTI was following MSCI/FTSE World. Anyways, get an ETF that follows the world index if you want best risk/return ratio.

>>14199121
Can't fit everything in this screenshot.
>Long positions:
ALXN
BMRN
REGN
ORCL
RGNX
GSK
SRPT
AMGN
SGEN
BOLD
ODT
RARE
ZGNX
PTCT
CRIS
AXGT
RYTM
UBER
AMZN
>-1.55% Average gain/Loss

>Short positions:
MDCO
VZ
CMCSA
T
ACB
MRK
ACAD
SAGE
TLRY
NBIX
RETA
RUBY
TARO
DIS
MRNA
FB
>4.59% Average Gain/Loss
>Total Gain/Loss 1.26% v.s. 2.52% SPY over the same period

>>14199123
FTSE World?

>>14199112
I have for the last 4 years.

>>14199123
>>14199216
VT is the global one. it's what i buy for my neices and nephews, real simple.

>>14199202
Martin's Total Gain/Loss should be 2.17% miscalculation sorry

>>14199010

>Ctrl + F "PLUG"
>He bought PLUG instead of REFR

i have a question

i thought ETFs didn't track/copy the markets, but select some stocks and invest the money they have.

am i wrong? aren't they specialized institutions that invest the money you give them?

>>14199638
if you're too stupid to use google you're too stupid to invest in anything, son

>>14199679
Based

Baking new braead

China said last year there were 25 thousands people consuming Marijuana, up 25% from previous year. They blame bad influence from North America as the reason.

New

>>14199785

>>14199785

>>14199785

>>14199785

>>14199785

>>14199785

>>14199638
ETFs are just an investment vehicle, it's not the investment strategy, which can be anything from active mgmt, tracking an index, or a specific sector, selling volatility, writing covered calls, etc.

>>14199326
What is this supposed to be trying to say? REFR is still just too unknown for me, and the only signs of life have been pumps and dumps imho.