/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>14129040
>List of basic stock market terminology for newfags:
>https://pastebin.com/VtnpN5iJ
How does this not have an entry for "leverage"?

Should I load up on Google stocks because of the LINK partnership?

Threadly reminder that chili dogs are your fren

Dark Pools are opaque stock trading platforms operated by the largest Wall Street banks and other firms. They are, effectively, stock exchanges but have been given exemptions by the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) from having to register as a stock exchange or to submit to more rigorous oversight by the SEC.

The rationale for the existence of Dark Pools owned by the mega banks has escaped the public since these are the same banks that are serially fined for abusing the public’s trust and rigging other markets like foreign exchange, Libor, and the Nasdaq stock market in the 1990s. Their conduct was so bad in the Nasdaq matter that they were forced to submit to having their trading phone calls taped and reviewed by regulators.

Dark Pools are referred to as “unlit” markets because the public can see very little about what is going on. In a speech delivered by Brett Redfearn, SEC Director of the Division of Trading and Markets on June 3 of last year, he said that dark pools “in aggregate,” are responsible for “14 percent of listed equity volume.” That figure does not include over-the-counter stocks. According to a report in the Wall Street Journal using data from the Tabb Group, “the share of U.S. stock trades executed on dark pools and other off-exchange trading venues rose to 38.6 percent in April, the highest level in more than a year,” which was “up from 34.7 percent in December.”

Remember when people got laughed at for fomoing into AMD at $14? I remember.

>>14129218
i member

Where is all of this volatility coming from? I'm getting fucked like a fridge over here.

This is the reddest day I've had so far since starting trading stocks

>>14129269
your mom

>>14129200
Yeah, I mentioned I'm listening to the audible book Dark Pools atm in another thread. Learning about their history is pretty interesting.

THREADLY REMINDER THAT DIVIDENDS ARE YOUR FREN

>>14129366
It’s running right now at 288.88

the face melting hour of power rally can start now....

>>14129436
Recommendations for Canadian divvie stocks? I was thinking 50/50 into VDY and XDIV ETFs.

>>14129436
based and divvypilled

>>14129698
i don't have any because I'm US but here's a list of some canadian dividend blogs:

https://blog.feedspot.com/canadian_dividend_blogs/

>>14129698
SNC.TO

>>14129618
KYS

reminder that companies only pay a dividend if they can't use that money to continue growing

aka they may not exist in the next 20 years

>>14129618
the crab is heading down the conveyor belt to the saw and a Bull will emerge from the shell.

>>14129831
Imagine being this wrong.

>>14129833
It's going to crab until the 2020 election.

/smg/ Telegram channel (pastebinned to evade spam filter) https://pastebin.com/6smJMEJP

>>14129890
you really think companies like walmart won't be raped by amazon in the next 20 years?

>>14129316
When did you start, yesterday?

>>14129911
You really think companies like Amazon won't be raped by anti-trust litigation and will still be around in 20 years?

>>14129946
yes, because the Jews won't let Amazon get busted up. they have too much money in the system

>>14129909
join'd my fellow fed

>>14129971
theres room on this planet for both amazon and walmart to exist

>>14130060
>one company using technology to revolutionize logistics and purchasing goods
>one company just exists, for now

>unironically buying stocks

dude Chainlink is basically gonna delete the stockmarket

>>14130095
Confirmed for not knowing shit about Walmart.

Savage Isaac

i don't get index funds' way of working. what does it mean to ''mimic'' the market? is it that each time something is bought that the fund will buy it too?

>>14129911
You think bigbox retail is the only thing that pays a dividend?

You think Cisco won't be around in 20 years? You're stupid.

>>14129928
3 weeks ago

>>14129040
anyone else make some money off the pop in oil?

Or am I the only commodity trader on /biz/

>>14129909
IRC or nothing for me :/

>>14130060
I didn't know Walmart owns a big stake in jd.com until today

>>14130190
yes. there are some minor mechanical things the funds to do make re-balancing and buys/sells more efficient, but you don't need to know about those.
Just pay attention to the fee that the fund is charging and get the lowest fees possible :)

everyone knows that growth stocks pay more over time than dividend stocks, any growth ETF will beat a dividend ETF in any 20 year period

its your money, not mine

>>14130128
Why should anyone buy Chainlink? Isn't it just the latest pump and dump? Virtually all crypto trading is manipulated, especially low vol shitcoins

>>14130247
Get a load of this retard.

>get home from work
>lets see how smg frens are doing
>candycorn edition AGAIN
AUGHGGHHGGH

>>14130241
heard a lot of good things about vtsax aka vanguard. is it really an index fund or an ETF?

>>14130272
ok, i'll buy amazon and google and you can buy walmart and cisco, we'll see who has more money in 20 years.

also, stop using ad hominem arguments when your going to lose, kid

>>14130282
dont you guys like sweet candycorn

>>14130297
>vtsax
VTSAX is an mutual fund and an index fund
VTI is basically the same thing, it is an ETF and an index fund


(There is always some SPICY discussion in these threads whenever people bring up index funds, mutual funds, and ETFs all at the same time. lol)


CMG puts are for real

can i take part on the american stock market living in europe? will the fees be higher for this?

These boomers keep trying to keep AMD down and it's pissing me off. They're going to be sorry when we hit $50 EOY.

>>14130345
yeah. i remember asking about index funds and etfs and it was fucking chaotic indeed.

i do understand that it's an index fund because it indexes the market aka it copies what it's doing.

but why is it a mutual fund too? is it because people sign a contract that says that if you leave X money for Y time they'll give you more after that time?

>>14130313
Idiot moving the goalposts lmao.

Notice how it went from "they won't exist" to "hurrr durrrr they mayk most munny!".

>>14130353
https://global.vanguard.com/portal/site/home dunno about higher fees, but vanguard is legit

>>14130451
>>14130247

You know instead of sitting here bitching about weather or not Walmart is going to make money we should be collaborating to get some fucking micro-cap shit stocks product to be featured in some viral zoomer meme shit like the fucking tide pod challenge, and make a fuck load of money when their shit spikes.

DAMN, anyone else see that FATTY last minute candle

>>14130437
might as well just read about it a bit.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/mutualfund.asp

an index fund is just a sub-type of a mutual fund (but index funds could also be ETFs)

I wouldn't worry too much about it, I don't know if you can get vanguard in Europe and buy VTSAX but you should be able to buy VTI. The specific definitions of mutual funds and ETFs aren't really essential to know if you just want to buy them to save for retirement. At the same time, I would advise reading about them to be informed.

>>14130313
value stocks have sucked since the 2008 crisis, but that doesn't mean they will forever. investor interest in value vs. growth ebbs and flows.

Ding ding ding! How did everyone do today? I'm up .19%, slightly undeiperforming spy still, doesn't really matter as it's yet another nothing day with no trades. On the plus side my BWL/A is now strongly profitable, all 4 shares of it. How do I go about selling it?

>>14130533
>>14129831

That BIG GREEN DICK at the end.

How the fuck did FVRR jump so high? Do these people not research what they're buying?

>>14130587
$SQ call spread was a decent play. I'm up 1.77%. Probably keep it fairly low-key tomorrow.

>>14130605
friday looking good already

>>14130557
what is VTI? it's a fucking pity that i can't buy vstax. i thought there'd be a way online to take part on american economics. i guess not everything is connected

>>14130587
I'm +.22%... not going to fucking make it.

>>14130606
Nope, it’s FOMO after BYND and that cloud shit. Low float set to run.
Disclosure: I’m swinging this shit.

>>14130593
at the end of the day, i'll be rich and you'll be poor. and you'll look back on this day and remember how your pride cost you thousands of dollars

>>14130587
+0.91%

It's been a weird month for me
But I think I'm starting to stabilize a bit
like, in my mind
I just need to be smart, not make dumb decisions that I KNOW are dumb, and perform.

I will buy more CMG puts tomorrow, this one is sure for me


ALSO I was able to buy my VRUS! it was down all day. But at least I could buy it ;)

>>14130632
VTI is like the same thing. just google it. you should be able to buy some sort of low fee S&P exposure from a European broker
You should move to America ;)

>>14130656
If you tilt your head to one side does your brain roll out of your ear?

>>14130630
Based

>>14130587
Up 1.15%. Any day that's not a red day is a-okay with me.

>>14130353
Check the tax implications, I think you might have to fill out a W8-BEN form

>>14130695
if you aren't going to provide proof of your side of the arguement, I reccomend you stop doing ad hominem attacks

>>14130587
up 8% this month so far.
a hero market bought into bwl.a today, Ill never forget his anonomys face
>How do I go about selling it?
You market sell for 16

>>14130727
I hope you're right.

You're going to need the money for the brain transplants they'll have in the future.

>>14130805
>>14130727

>>14130690
but isn't VTI an ETF compared to VSTAX being an index fund? i've read that index funds are a much better option than ETFs specially long-term

>>14130727
what's that? searched it and understand nothing

>>14130811

>>14130587
Up 0.9%
Still not sure if touching top of crab market cycle or about to begin going up

>>14130826
VTI is am etf based on the exact same thing as vtsax. So holding it long term is the same. And actually better because VTI has a lower expense now. Only 0.03 to vtsax 0.04

I think I'm going to scoop up some shares of that titty bar company. RICK looks like its at a great price for accumulation.

>>14130587
Up 0.31% today, pretty flat and boring desu. Why do divvy stocks have to be so slow I just wanna retire already...

>>14130893
yo I already have been buying RICK for a while now
had to average down into whatever it's doing now. Wish I had sold when ti was 26, but W/E

literally can't go tits up
great investment

>>14130866
thanks, im glad we've come to an agreement

>>14130879
>VTI is an etf based on the exact same thing as vtsax

but vtsax is an index fund right? i'm asking dumb af questions and thank you for answering

plus, why can vti be bought in europe but not vtsax?

>>14130893
Hooters waitresses get free gym and tanning membership at local gym and/or tanning salon
And their spicy garlic sauce is the best

Idk what these mean for stock though

>>14130942
Oh so you've come around to how fucking dumb you are?

>>14130934
>I just wanna retire already...
same. 3 more years

>>14130587
.69
Pretty gay day.

>>14130972
i would consider myself to be rather intelligent (took an online IQ test, got 130)

also, my investments in cloud stocks are nearly up 25% in the last three months.

>>14130958
Vtsax is the index fund version. VTI is an etf based on the same holdings as vtsax. They are almost entirely identical.

VTI will update it's price moment to moment during the day to potentially time the market if you wish. I don't know why only VTI would be available but it's better anyway.

>>14130587
Up 1.51% again. I literally cannot hold all these gains.

>>14131012

No one look at semis. Especially AVGO.

RIP semiconductors

>>14131016
I think some anon pointed out VTI has a lower expense ratio, so you should usually do VTI. The only downside I could see is that you could enter in at a shitty price above NAV since it is an etf, not like that matters on time scales after 4-6 months though.

>>14131016
ok, so vti buys the same things as vtsax. but why update its price? doesn't the market, not the company itself change the price?

>>14131062
what's NAV? why wouldn't that matter after months?

>>14131080
unless you plan on retiring in the next 5 months and need to preserve capital I reccomend you buy a cloud ETF

remember that Amazon investors who bought in during the top of the dot com bubble still 20x their money in 20 years

Proposal to add the following stocks to the OP of the thread when created, I recommend everyone hold these stocks in at least 50% of their portfolio:

T
LCI
GALT
AMD
VRUS
NAKD

Down 5.7% for the day. So, uh, ouch.

>>14131093
NAV = Net asset value. VTSAX is a real fund, VTI just tracks it. You can buy shares of VTI, you don‘t (by definition) buy shares of VTSAX. VTI can therefore adjust in price due to supply and demand. It‘s possible to actually overpay/underpay for VTI more than what the Vtsax fund is worth as a result.

should i gamble my life savings on options or what

>>14131166
Of course

>>14131080
The updated pricing is reflecting the underlying holdings. Unlike the index fund, the ETF version (VTI) could be timed intra-day. Buy in the morning, sell in the afternoon. The index fund (VTSAX) buys and sells at the end of the day after the market is closed.

If you are buying and holding then both are great. VTI is just more versatile.

>>14131039
>AVGO
that's not that bad

>>14131155
what stock(s) hurt you?

>>14131166
depends how much you've got

TIME TO CONFESS

>>14131181
thank you this was the sign i needed

>>14131215
30k in leaf money

>>14131226
I listened to stock advice from that bag holding tripfaggot

>>14131204
AMD and NAKD

>>14130993
3 more years? how much do you have invested and/or passive income you generating?

i'm at $400K with about $20K+ in passive income. More than half id capital gains so i don't know if I'll even get those throughout the year. probably can't quasi retire until I get $50K and growing passive income.

>>14131253
All in $VRUS.

>>14131106
but why is a cloud etf better than an index fund for long-term investments?

also, what happened with the dot com bubble?

>>14131256
You made money right?

>>14131184
more versatile? what do you mean?

also, i watched a chart that said that index funds gave much more benefits than ETFs on the long run

>>14131285
how the hell do you get 50k passive when dividends give so fucking little, even when having lots of shares? you invest in funds?

>>14131342
Index funds restrict you from trading on it a lot. Too many sells and they make you wait. You also have no control over the end of day pricing.

ETF's are designed to be actively traded. They act like a normal stock with being able to buy during market hours and set limit orders.

If you invested 10k into VTSAX and 10k into VTI you'd be slightly ahead with VTI due to it having a lower expense. They track the same stuff. You want VTI here. Trust me. Unless they drop the expenses to be the same, there is no reason to be in VTSAX over VTI.

>>14131285
$400k in my 401k, target retirement fund
$85k short term bonds (cash)
$75k longer term bonds
$75k high div stocks
$500k S&P500 and non-US indices

i think i have around $18k expected income from divs in my non-retirement account, which is around where i want to be when i retire so i can take advantage of the ACA and the retarded income based rules established with it.

the 3 years comment is so i can milk a few more bucks out of my company to be a little extra comfy.

>>14130587
Realized a gain of about .45% on my margin max'd SCHB sold at the very end of the day, nearly at the top. Underwater on USO calls for the time being. TQQQ position slowly clawing back towards breakeven. Overall not a bad day. Still a ways to go to recover from shitty AMD calls dumped yesterday. Fuck options desu.

>>14131461
too many sells? i thought index funds couldn't be sold or bought.

it does make sense to invest in vti though. but still, that chart showed index funds were much better. do you really think that for that 0.01 difference ETFs will outwork index funds, even when index funds provide much more benefits long-term?

what do you guys think about AMD? looks like it's going downwards. was the e3 not enough?

>>14131583
Don't touch semis until China stuff is sorted out.

>>14131616
semis? what?

how does china affect AMD? is it because of the trade-war?

>>14131547
Just think of VTI and VTSAX as being identical. They are 99.9% the same thing. VTI only wins because its expense ratio was lowered due to competition with other similar ETF's.

Without knowing what index funds and etfs they are comparing its not fair to say.

>>14131640
What the fuck. How new are you?

Are you just trading blindly and not reading geopolitics?

>>14131640
>how does china affect AMD
dude...

>>14131640
lel

>>14131039
If Broadcom hits $200 again, I'm loading up.

>>14131691
>>14131694
just trying to learn a bit. don't even know what the guy meant for semis. a dumb quesiton, probably.

>>14131640
Semiconductors. You're better off buying VTI and not attempting to buy individual stocks like AMD until you watch the market for a while and get a feel for it.

Threadly reminder, nothing is going on in Hong Kong, and the Trump and Xi show is going to have a happy ending with a BIG trade deal at the big G2 (yes G2, the other 18 countries in attendence don't even matter) meeting at the end of the month.

>>14131751
ooh okay. yeah not trading any individual stock for now. thanks for answering

>>14131746
Oh okay. I suggest paper trading for a year or two and reading up on Investopedia or something.

>>14131226
My portfolio is too heavy with shilled memestocks (16.27%).

>>14131746
it's o.k. frend I didn't mean to be mean 2 u. It's just that Chinar is kind of important for semis trading

>>14131814
yeah tried the simulator but was incredibly strange. paper trading seems easier, i don't think i need a simulator for something i can write on a paper. though, i have no idea where to find info like dividends or payments.

>>14131137
>NAKD
????
I am literally the original NAKD poster and I thought the bottom would be at .29C, dont buy this fucfking garbage

>>14131868
yep, totally makes sense. i thought you used a metaphore and talked about semis, a roman coin

Another green day!.

Go AMRN, Go AMRN!, Go.

Aside note: GE looking like it's heading back up! New price target is $16. Guess who bagged it at the bottom? Yeah, Me. Profit incoming!

P.S; T Babies still kicking ass today heh.

>>14131814
plus, trading makes me a little afraid. i've never invested anything, and have like 200 euro saved. probably vti is the best option for me

2nd year in trading, just curious on how you guys come to terms of when to hold and sell? When i first started i assumed just holding forever was a good strategy then got burned last summer and now i feel i'm leaning to weaker hands which gets me nervous and lose aswell. How can i time the market /smg teach me.
Any good strats i can follow? Or some source material i can latch onto to guide me.

>>14130247
>stocks meant to grow during a bull run are performing better than stocks meant to supply steady income during bad times, just look at the past 20 years aka constant bull market

>>14131998
Just buy while it's going up and sell when it goes down.

>>14131998
I hate losing so much that I'd rather hold a losing position to the bitter end than realize losses, this gives the me iron grip needed to hodl LCI and NAKD until they turn profit or I lose my starting capital

>>14132032
but what if right after buying it stops going up and changes to the go-down phase?

reminder that flimsy Bandaids are going out of style. Hospitals and doctors bandage you up using Nexcare by 3M

>>14131998
Like look at a fucking chart, when you see something you like you get in, have a tight stop, then when it takes off you ride it with a trailing stop. Eventually you just take profits or get stopped off for a manageable loss.

>>14132033
I felt that way aswell last summer but i held onto meme shit that never recovered even now, aka IQ and MU

>>14132058
They your stop will trigger and you've got to fucking eat the loss, wait for some other kind of pattern to form on the chart and try again.

>>14132069
Then don't invest in memes, make a nice divvy portfolio and just never fucking sell, drip that shit until the day you retire

>>14132032
Pretty sure its supposed to be the other way around

>>14129831
>dangerouslystupid.png

>>14132062
How do you remember all of the technical chart formations, or do you just have a picture guide beside you?

>>14132192
Baggie is our guide. We do the opposite of what he says. And we make it.

When he shorts LCI or GALT is when we go big time.

>>14132192
if you understand what the picture guide is trying to teach you, you'll understand what you're actually looking for and when you see what you want, you fucking get in, and when you see what you don't want, you get the fuck out. I mean there's really no reason to over complicate this shit, just follow the fucking trend and ride the fucking wave.

>>14132192
yeah

< this is my picture guide

>>14132229
is this the stock markets secret? Is B*ggie a secret stock market retard genius?

>>14132192
>>14132229
I genuinely, unironically just do the opposite of what baggie says, all his moves are calculated but hes just an unlucky fucker so I bet against him always

>>14132192
TA is a meme. Just fap on company time to release your built up stress and you‘ll be trading like a God. Avoid the porn jew tho, this means only hentai or furry is allowed.

>>14132257
he is an ididot svant but not really for stocks
He's really ~50% on his calls, then people either remember the bad ones or the good ones and think he's always right or always wrong


>>14132275
this is good advice but you can do porn on a Friday night as long as you sleep the rest of the weekend and pray on Sunday

>>14132192
Yes here's mine (explains everything)

>>14132343
>>14132192
And here's mine

>>14132343
based schizo poster

>>14132343
wut

what's the minimum amount for starting investing? ideally on mutual funds

>>14132343
What a waste of autism. You‘d do well learning set and group theory if you can even bother to remember those patterns. Here‘s a free pdf textbook I‘m going through.

>http://abstract.ups.edu/download/aata-20150812.pdf

>>14129040
Should I use a retirement account for my stocks, or just a regular taxable account, or both? What advantages do each give me?

>>14132343
What did Oberlin pay for

Is big five guy still alive?

>>14132435
Any amount really, it's best to get your feet wet with real money fake trading is worthless imo

>>14132471
Encouraging students to attack a local bakery. Because the bakery reported black people that were robbing it.

>>14132471
They made up some bunk claims about a grocery store racially profiling some students who got caught shoplifting and proceeded to beat the shit out of the owner. The college endorsed and paid for a big unruly protest and now owes them 33 millies, good deal if you ask me

>>14132507
Pretty shitty thing to do

>>14132501
it's fucking terrifying. my starting capital would be something like 200. enough for 2 VTI shares. or maybe i should invest in something more volatile? i know vti and mutual funds in general work best with long periods of time.

>>14132519
All of those left wing universities are fucking cancer

>>14132435
depends on the fund. some have no minimum.

>>14132519
Glad that they had to pay the bakery back

>>14132544
your first go around consider it a tuition, worst thing that can happen is you have a big winner and think trading is ez

>>14132564
so considering it some sort of pilot-chapter investing right? just to get the grasp out of it?

>>14131469
nice. well done anon

>>14131376
dividend reinvestment + dividend growth + consistent influx of new capital to create a larger dividend that then becomes reinvested.

>>14132060
The fact that you said "band aids" means I should go with JNJ instead. Their brand of bandages is so popular that it's become genericized.

>>14132544
>>14132593
$200 is nothing, and nothing is perfect for learning. Buy some shit and get a feel for how it works. You aren‘t going to walk away with shit on $200 capital, a 1% move is only $2. You also won‘t lose shit either - you mess up and accidentally -10% yourself its no big deal just $20. The key thing tho, is at one point you have to stop learning and go for real. I recommend doing this over time, contribute like $100 every week into your port. Especially if you mess up big time, you should still contribute more capital. It‘s easier to make more money with more money. Good luck and Godspeed.

When u become pro, start writing covered calls.

Oh shit guys I just figured something out but you won't believe me because I've been crying wolf and lying about the same shit for the better part of a month:

Amazon buys NAKD outright

Reminder to cut your loss on galt if you haven't already.

>>14132698
I was referring to JNJs flimsy brand.
When little Jimmy scratches his knee you give him bandaid

When Mike gashes open his leg you can only trust Nexcare Gauze and Pads, with trademarked Scotch quality stickability

>>14132441
But dobby I need to use my solar techno-Vajrayana to cause time to move backwards around me. I'll become more than lightning and sun combined and take the throne of God (Ur-Capital) as my divine right. I won't need profit then, I'll be profit.

>>14132665
dividend growth? if i'm not wrong it means that each year a share gives you more dividend to make you keep the stock. is that right?

>>14132724
thanks anon.

>>14132810
>Implying Ur is god-tier powerful
As frightening as Ur is, all you‘d have to do is call upon the LORD ALMIGHTY YOUR GOD JESUS CHRIST and have him bless your fists with the divine holy powers of righteousness. And then you beat the everliving crap out of him.

when would it be a good time to buy vti? or any mutual fund

>>14132955
yesterday

>>14132963
why?

>profiting off AKS and CHK trades
me scared

>>14132982
The paths of health, wealth, and righteousness wait for no anon. You must take these matters upon yourself if you wish to have them.

I'm sick of losing money. I fumbled a few AMZN calls and currently 6k in the hole... having a hard time justifying throwing more money at it... but my hands are itching

I should open a simulator account and join 10 games simultaneously, using a different trading strategy in each game and compare how each style fares

I'll try again with real money only after I nail down a suitable strategy to the tee

>>14132797
Mike Roman? Is that you?

After Hours just turned my -5.7% day into a -4% day so thank goodness for that

>>14133040
Bullish debit leap spreads for you, buy itm. Minimum 6 months out, better the longer you go. Don‘t do paper trading, it‘s literally worthless. Set a mental stop loss on the spreads - if you lose you‘re destined for a boring life of buy and hold etfs.

so let's assume i buy 1 stock of vti. after one year, how much money would that share give me? and after 5 years? 10? how does the dividend growth work in here?

>>14132788
Explain your reasoning.

>>14131616
What exactly happened this time because Semis are tanking in the aftermarket?

Not that I'm complaining about future AMD cheapies.

Where would i go to keep an eye on low cost stocks with high volume/market cap??

>>14133131
AVGO who supplies Apple and other companies, just shit the bed. They stated outlook not good this year, suppliers decreasing, sales decreasing, which will accelerate with China shenanigans.

They are taking a bearish defensive stance.

>>14132825
it means the company increases its dividend (usually on an annual basis). The dividend % changes daily with the change in price, but the actual payment (ex $0.50 per share per quarter) is what increases. see pic of ITW's dividend increase which more than doubled over the span of 5 years.

Should I feel guilty about feeling happy about this? I've been so /OIL'd/ lately.

>>14133248
oh, so dividend growth happens not to make people hold the stuck but because the price of the share gets higher.

now, for a 150$share, to give 1$ on dividends. isn't that just too little? like, how will dividends ever help? you'd have to wait 150 years to pay the initial buy. i've never understanded this.

>>14133309
Wars are good for business.

>>14133308
Take a look

futures are red as fuck, we're so screwed tomorrow.

>>14133308
both. people hold dividend growth stocks because their yield on cost becomes much higher than the actual yield. Warren Buffett's yield on cost for his KO stock is like 70% and will likely reach 100% before he dies (meaning he gets his initial investment in dividends every year and still keeps the stock). It also goes up to with the company's profits. its a way to ensure a company doesn't misuse profits for stupid ideas just because the money is there. it also helps compound growth.

And it starts out as little but much of the S&P 500's growth is the compounding effect dividends produce when reinvested.

>>14132932
uhhh, sorry. Just proved that's not true

>>14133366
ok, so you buy a share of USAC for 17.07$. then, annually it gives 2.10$.

but why does an ITW share, worth 150$, give such a little dividend compared to USAC?

>>14133386
but man, it's such an incredibly insignificant amount. i still don't fucking get it. a stock gives like 0,001 of its buy price on dividends. it can't be profitable on my eyes. how can you profit with this?

>>14133308
Dividends increase with profit growth.

It has nothing to do with share price other than the fact that the share price is going to sink if the company is doing poorly.

Correlation doesn't equal causation.

>>14130606

Tech bubble. I seen this shit a mile away and sold at the end of the day..I'm expecting a huge drop tomorrow. Be ready for the grocery outlet IPO in the coming days. This is your chance to be part of the pump and dump market. Also, make sure you hedge your bets with silver and gold. JP Morgan has been devaluing silver whole they stock pile it.

The more you know

>>14131939

GE?!?!?

>>14133426
because its a better company and the risk of the dividend being slashed or discontinued is significantly less.

ITW's dividend growth will beat USAC's dividend growth and the yield on cost will likely surpass 17%.

Also ITW has significant more upside with share price appreciation.

There's always a trade off. If a company has a dividend over 4% and isn't in oil, telecoms or a REIT, its usually a bad sign

>>14133512
that's true. dividends only happen if the company has had profit in the year. but then companies need to have an incredibly good year to yield more than 0.01$, right?

>>14133495
reinvesting the dividends to get more shares to get more dividends to get more shares to get more dividends to get more shares to get more dividends to get more shares to get more dividends to get more shares to get more dividends to get more shares to get more dividends to get more shares to get more dividends etc. etc. until I have a consistent flow of passive income from high quality stocks that will increase their dividend to outpace inflation year in and year out regardless of recessions

>>14133553
>ITW's dividend growth will beat USAC's dividend growth and the yield on cost will likely surpass 17%.

can you explain this a bit? also, what's that trade off?

How in the fuck did the kneepad and rats know to buy the oil companies yesterday?

>>14133524
>Grocery Outlet IPO
OH FUCK WHAT?!
I love that store, I want in. When's it happening? How's it looking?

I was thinking I would finally buy an IPO with Chewy tomorrow.

>>14133603
I bought some USO yesterday, looked cheap. They might have been collaborating with the CIA glow niggers that torpedo'd the tanker though. I mean I haven't been wearing my tin foil hat so they're probably coming for me, but fuck 'em.

>>14133584
>reinvesting the dividends
how can you reinvest 0.4$? especially if you want a high quality company? you'd end up spending 10k and be getting at best 1$ yearly. the company would need to have a great year not to give so little

>>14133088
Would you mind explaining this?

>>14133603

I'm skeptical about the chewy. Never heard of it. Might be a smaller PnD. I'll be watching closely. But definitely be ready for grocery outlet!

>>14133743
I know people who use it and love the convenience. They use it even though they have Amazon Prime. I think they get a better price.

Humanization of pets has been a winning trend...

>>14133598
USAC's dividend hasn't grown for the past 4 years (.525 per share), meanwhile ITW's dividend has doubled over the past 5 years. Even without reinvesting the dividend, the ITW shares yield on cost is going up with every increase because its relative to your cost basis for shares purchased, not to what current share price is (dividend growth companies like aristocrats tend to go up over time).

In 10 years, USAC's dividend could be the same while ITW's could have quadrupled from when you bought the share. add in the compounding factor of DRIP (automatic dividend reinvestment) your yield on cost gets even better because you're not putting in any new capital.

With dividends you get free money (sure the share price temporarily lowers on the ex date) and with dividend increases you get more free money than before. Plus it increases your dividends without having to add new capital.

>>14133788

Thanks anon, ill read a bit more about it. Might be a sleeper

>>14133839
>sleeper
I thought this was the most hyped one?!
I was worried of it getting LYFTed because it seems like the one of the bunch with the most buzz. Which one was then?

>>14133666
DRIP programs automatically use the dividend to purchase shares (fractional shares too) of the company that is paying the dividend.

and with 10K at 3.5% average dividend you're getting about $350 per year.

>>14133666
say a company gives a 2.5% dividend right. that would mean every 40 shares would get you enough cash to get another share from the dividend. Some brokers WILL let you purchase fractional shares with the dividend reinvestment options they offer.

>>14133893
seems more logical.

alright bros. time to go to bed. 1am here. thanks for answering and helping a clueless anon. see you in next /SMG/ threads.

>>14134014
sweet dreams anon

>>14133872

Beyond meat was a huge sleeper. Don't know if we are going to see another black swan like that.

>>14134014
Dream of your Lord and Savior.

>>14134061
There’s always retarded meme stocks that have massive short squeezes

Predicting something like that is almost impossible though

Who the FUCK is Oppenheimer and why the FUCK is Oppenheimer stealing my AMD gains???

>>14134117
FVRR is next. Low float and primed to run.

>>14134061
The black swan I’m concerned about is a lyft... Beyond Meat being undervalued and filling a niche is just gravy.

But I should’ve seen that insta-related online retailer, the crowd one, and TTD coming. Fucking TTD goddamn...

>>14132796
the best thing I can do for u son is pray and hope thatyou turn a new page in your life your one of the most ignorant naive low life scum that presents himself on this board, your the type of person who would wet his pants on d day on the Normandy beach and run away. I am confident to the mark ongalt to an A as was my father in d day I will pile drive your arseinto a mud hole u got that coward
into a mud hol the best thing I can do for u son is pray and hope thatyou turn a new page in your life your one of the most ignorant naive low life scum that presents himself on this board scar liver cares about people you, your the type of person who would wet his pants on d day on the Normandy beach and run away. I am confident to the mark ongalt to an A as was my father in d day I will leinto a mud hole u got that

>>14132796
he best thing I can do for u son is pray and hope thatyou turn a new page in your life your one of the most ignorant naive low life scum that presents himself on this board, your the type of person who would wet his pants on d day on the Normandy beach and run away. I am confident to the mark ongalt to an A as was my father in d day I will pile drive your arseinto a mud hole u got that coward
into a mud hol the best thing I can do for u son is pray and hope thatyou turn a new page in your life your one of the most ignorant naive low life scum that presents himself on this board, your the type of person who would wet his pants on d day on the Normandy beach and run away. I am confident to the mark ongalt to an A as was my father in d day I will leinto a mud hole u got that

>>14134152
>Oppenheimer
Wasn't he the guy that made the nukes?

>>14134224
>who would wet his pants on d day on the Normandy beach and run away.
and you're the kind of person who wouldn't even be on the boat because you're a faggot and weren't allowed in the military.

>>14134285
>implying I wasn't on the beach in Normandy

>>14134285
What if he saved 99 lives?

>>14134372
What if 10 million fireflies?

>>14134461
Ur weird cause it fake n gay

What happened to dudeweed today?

I scooped up some hexo :3

>>14134152
> Who the FUCK is Oppenheimer and why the FUCK is Oppenheimer stealing my AMD gains???

Makes me feel even better about selling on Monday.

>>14132825
T Babies to the rescue! But honestly I've got 194 shares. (bought them all @ 31.77 per on average). According to my handy T Baby Divvy Spreadsheet after 28 years of Dripping and me not buying anymore shares I'll have over 36k in income. I spent 6,163.38 to buy them. A thing to keep in mind: I make shit now (27k). I live in a low col state. After bills and shit I'm left with 350 - 400 each month. I'm also into AMRN; got 400 shares. I'll make 18k - 40k from AMRN alone. Also got a few more smaller stock holdings.

>>14134506
ooh below 6.00, didn't even notice. I'll probably get some tomorrow

What does this mean? How can I turn this around and avoid losing all my money? I thought I still had until the end of tomorrow

>>14133743
>>14133839
Chey's CEO used to work for Amazon. They seem to be following the Amazon playbook to, only using Pet stuff as the fuel.

>>14134664
I think it means you can close out your position in that option, but you can't purchase any more contracts.

>>14134224
Tldr

Oh shit SELL SELL SELL
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/kudlow-threatens-consequences-if-chinas-xi-doesnt-meet-with-trump-at-g-20-2019-06-13?siteid=rss&rss=1

>>14134597
>28 years
my God... that's too long. Please tell me you're gonna accelerate that with more contributions. Can I recommend QYLD? Every 100 shares gets you an extra 1 share every month!

>>14134597
who wants to live for 28 more years? I'm 29 and joined thinking of joining a suicide pact already

The dopamine hitting.

>>14134893
Oh I'll add more. Gotta get my AMRN profits first. Gotta pay myself back the investment amount first. So that way if it all just shits least I won't be out anything.

>>14132060
>he doesn't use super glue and hockey tape

shiggy

>>14135001
What website is this?

>>14135145
Robinhood web

>>14135145

>>14132192

Pic related is all you need. Maybe the dunning-kruger graph and the tulip mania chart to bookend each side.

>>14135220

Also I should make and frame and hang on wall a sign that says,

STOP TRYING TO FISH FOR TREND REVERSALS YOU ALWAYS WIND UP BAGHOLDING AND TAKING INCREASINGLY GREATER RISK JUST TO BREAK EVEN

>>14131876
consider using td ameritrade paper trading since investopedias simulator isnt that accurate or timely

>>14135257
Isn't that just another way of saying this?

>>14135506

Going long on a bearish stock in hopes of reversal is a little different. Sometimes bearish stocks never break bullish again.

>tfw you're happy when your stocks go up because it's validation that they're solid companies
>tfw you're also happy when your stocks go down, because it's an opportunity to buy cheaper shares of them.

I hate to think of how badly it must suck to be a bull and see nothing but red for days on end and view it as a loss instead of an opportunity.

www.cnbc.com/2019/06/13/a-morgan-stanley-reading-on-the-economy-collapses-by-the-most-ever.html

>>14135942
Markets gonna break ath

>>14136105
>PUBLISHED THU, JUN 13 2019 2:01 PM EDT

>>14136125
>Perversely, that weak sentiment actually boosted equities.
Bulls are perverts...

>>14129436
based

>>14131285
How old are you anon?

>>14129115
>Loading up on tech during the largest SV tech controversies
>Loading up on tech while big tech is being investigated

Come on man. Be smarter. Do some more legwork.

>>14129831
>Whew lad
I hope that nobody takes this seriously

>>14130247
If you are looking for a high risk strategy, you are right.
Most people that own stocks are looking for good nest egg stuff.

Anyone here use Margin loans? Seems like a pretty good way to increase investments when you're just starting out

>>14133104
You can look at historic dividend distributions for VTI here.

https://investor.vanguard.com/etf/profile/distributions/vti

I believe the dividend VTI is based on the dividend payments of the stocks in the fund's portfolio. So the dividend goes up or down as the stocks in the fund change their dividends, and as the makeup of the portfolio changes. In any case, the overall dividend yield for VTI wouldn't be very high. You'd be staking most of your hope for gains on the fact that the price of a share of VTI would go up over the long run, and that you could sell it for more than you bought it for.

Shill me food stock. I've got pep, fdp, KR, and gis. What am I missing besides inferior KO?

>>14136634
>just starting out
>with margin in a year long crab market
avoid like the plague senpai

>>14136768
KHC

>>14136634
Stay away

>>14136768
YUM

>>14136892
why? pep and gis carry the middle of the grocery store. what does khc add?

>>14136981
why yum over mcd and sbux? KFC and Pizza Hut are garbage.

>>14136634
It also seems like a pretty good way to wind up homeless, sucking dick so you can throw $50 on SQQQ and lose it all, only to return to a life on the streets sucking dick, forming a never-ending cycle that you repeat until one day your eyes close and never reopen. Is that what you want Anon? Or would you rather DCA some ETFs and one day have enough cash to make anime real?

Stay the fuck away from margin.

>>14137013
They also have Taco Bell. And they buy products from PEP

REEEEEEEEE FUCKING GUBBERMENT

PESTICIDES ANTIBIOTICS CAFOS BIGGER PROBLEM. HOUSING CRISIS BIGGER PROBLEM. CLIMATE CHANGE BIGGER PROBLEM. COLLAPSE OF MIDDLE CLASS BIGGER PROBLEM.

GOD DAMN I BETTER GET CHEAPIES THIS TIME.

http://fortune.com/2019/06/13/juul-labs-investigation-democrats/

>>14137054
you forgot the hoardes of immigrants and the collapse of social cohesion
>>14137030
why buy all that shit just for taco bell when I can just hold pep?

>>14137098
Immigrants... bigger problem than teen vaping, smaller problem than the things I mentioned also very real threat of nuclear war in the next century.

>>14137098
You're right - YUM also had a smaller dividend now that I think about it

>>14137117
wait til you realize immigrants don't give a fuck about any of that

>>14137149
Neither do the people who prioritize closed borders above all else...

People too preoccupied with cable news wars and internet nonsense campaigns.

Clownworld dessu

> sold on the day of the 13-year high, very close to the maximum price

Lisa Su and her strategic planning are truely fearsome.

>>14137207
Her and Tim and Walt are truly blessed.

I feel immense shame for selling 75% of my Disney and 100% of my Apple.

I disobeyed warren’s teachings, and got impatient.

>>14133407
>smalltime

you gotta step up your spooky bs meme magic game

>>14137207
>longing a woman ceo

>>14137198
>Neither do the people who prioritize closed borders above all else.
who does that?

>>14131763
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2019/06/13/ten-congressmen-introduce-bill-threatening-hong-kongs-special-trade-relationship-with-the-us/#346b857c48ff

>>14137302
Fox News has been dedicating a large portion of their programming to nothing but immigrants. Every incident of an immigrant committing a crime gets constant coverage.

Crude is mooning. /bull/ confirmed for tomorrow

>>14136768
MCD’s, Wendy’s, or That company that owns Burger King

>>14137378
Tucker leads with beltway politics shit 4/5 nights
any immigration coverage they might do is firmly "if they'd just get in line there'd be no issue"
>fox news is anti immigration
>fox news is right wing
you for serious?

>>14137447
I like Wendy's, but I've already got mcd and sbux. I'm more looking for a missing staple. Maybe Clorox, but most of their products are competing with generic. Not a winning battle.

>>14137499
100% for realsies my brosephine

I catch a lot of Fox News and infowars by way of gym TVs and family members. Remember that murdered woman they were trying to make into a “household name” last year? They’ve had a very consistant anti immigrant message for a while now. It’s one of their main “FEAR THIS, don’t pay attention to that other shit” messages.

>>14137612
>being this l'ebin centrist
don't >> me about politics ever again, chief

>>14137660
>I can’t handle people who aren’t easy to agree or disagree with
I don’t care for day or night. Im all about sunrise and sunset. You fucking pleb.

>>14137741
>>14137741
>>14137741

A new thread for a new day

>>14137676
>has no guiding principles
>calls others pleb