/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>14053528
First for Commies not welcome

>>14053528
rkg see >>14051759 and >>14051773

>he unironically thought mexico could fight the US in a trade war

fifth for GALT got added to the Russell 2000

>>14052136
>chad
>didn't actually get the major demand that held up a deal from being made earlier in the first place
I'm going to laugh if immigration hawks eat this deal up because it's literally nothing but kabuki theater where the crossing numbers will go down (and trump can crow he's tightening the border) solely because they have to wait on the mexico side if they are apprehended or applying for asylum.
and in theory the guard deployment on mexico's southern side will stop them but will it really?
Considering they did not in the end force mexico to get third party designation I think this is more Trump seeking an out for the mess
>>14053559
they actually could of and I'm kind of surprised they were dumb enough not to actually let the tariffs take effect and get the senate republicans panicked enough to overturn them
but amlo's appeasing instincts won out here, though as I said above the concessions aren't as major as you'd think

Predictions for Monday? I say red boys

>>14053607
green. one less uncertainty to worry about. tariff delay and optimism over china deal at g20. than deep red after july when there is no deal again and more tariffs tweeted.

homos are child molesters short every company that goes woke

>>14053607
Green, anyone who says red is a permabear. Unless someone really big happens that nobody expected.

I sold the bottom and bought puts. That's it I'm moving into bonds and savings accounts until the economy explodes and I don't care if I have to wait until 2025 for cheapies

>>14053653
>I don't care if I have to wait until 2025 for cheapies
This year or the next will be the recession, but the longer it waits out, the worse it will be. Recession will happen and this one will be a big one, it will make 2008 look like child's play.

>>14053607

SCREAMING GREEN STROBE LIGHTS OF DEATH

to bears


ror

BUY OLIVE FUTURES. PEOPLE WILL ALWAYS EAT SALADS. IVE SAID THIS A HUNDRED TIMES.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-tyson-foods-beyond-meat-idUSKCN1S026U

They sold for $79MM back in April. Today it'd be worth $500MM.

me post
>>14053284
>>14053309
>>14053422

continuing on:

>>14053462
>muh youtube video

You have to be 18 to post here, just for the record; I didn't say capitalism was voluntary once, nor is participation in whatever society you happen to be born in voluntary for that matter.

You can however voluntarily choose your employer, and it's the surplus created by a capitalistic market economy but "discarded" by communism (as shown by socialist "scholar" Paul Cockshott's jizzrag from his video I posted earlier) that creates the very apparatus that makes unemployment (i.e. the voluntary abstinence from work labor) to the extent that it exists possible. Ethically however, this apparatus is still a product of a far greater theft than that which is supposedly perpetrated by say, the CEO of Delta Airlines making $145 per employee per year at his $60,000 average wage, profit sharing company (that itself also has to pay 7% or so of each employee's wage to the government through an apparatus called a payroll tax).

As an aside, you lot's persistence on this and other boards despite getting absolutely blown the fuck out almost everywhere you go proves you don't care about being factually correct or ethically consistent, you care about "winning" even when it's proven time and again that your Jewish NEET Santa Claus ideology is regressive, ending in violence, compulsion and coercion of a far more severe sort than that which exists today.

I’ve come to the terrible realization that playing tqqq/sqqq in anticipation of a tariff/tradewar/whatever is just gambling and NOT investing and so glad I realized that before FOMOing into SDOW.

>for SQQQ, SDOW, and SPXU bagholders:
>http://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/
I’m the only one who fucks with SDOW, and it’s the only one I set good stoplosses for.

>>14053625
W-what? Why are you saying this to me? I’m not even the gay?

Oh god. I’ve made a terrible mistake

>>14053555 (those fucking TRIIIIIIIIPS)
>frenulum is orkgfan

>>14053672
Yeah, but the boomies are clever at finding ways to postpone it. It should already have happened, but they love prolonging the boom and intensifying the bust, because they know they may not live to see it.

>>14053723
Yeah but then it would be a conflict of interest for Tyson’s meat substitute product. Expect them to take a good portion of Beyond’s market, and they already have the distribution networks to undercut and box out beyond from the market.

>>14053568
I have 114 warrants, will I make it?

hourly reminder to be greedy

Looking for a highrisk stock that i can dump $1000 into.

>>14053931
BYND or TSLA, GME if you believe the lord is your personal savior.

>>14053944
>Gamestop

you are fucking crazy. might as well buy stock on blockbuster video

So I invested about $500 into Betterment using the Goldman Sachs Smart Beta Strategy and over the course of the 3 months or so I had invested in it I lost $15 dollars.

I have a few questions if someone could help me out. First of all, why the fuck? Secondly, Did I have too little money in the account for me to be able to break even. There is a commission fee, I forgot exactly how much it was but if the robo-investor is trading stocks and I have such a small amount in than are the gains that I am getting from the robo-investor not even enough to coverage the trading fee?

Thirdly, If that is not the case and I was fine with such a small amount in the account then why was I still losing money. Isn't the entire point of a robo-investor to analyze the market and predict what stocks to buy and sell. One would think that after all that time I would have at least made a few cents profit or does the software that Betterment uses just blow hairy cock?

Please help my newb ass understand what the fuck is going on.

>>14053970
I can't believe people actually see value in gamestop. Just off the top of my head they can't compete with the higher storage in consoles and how much faster/better it is to just download games now. Why wait out in the cold rain to get my hands on the new cod game if i can just eat some pizza while it downloads. Why sell my games to gamestop when i can get more on amazon. Why buy used games from gamestop when ps, xbox and steam all do huge sales all the time. I'm literally just about to buy REmake2 almost 50% off. GME is dead as shit and a great stock to short. They have literally no future.

>>14053931
True high risk is something like NAKD, earnings in 5 days, recent jump 30+ percent (please take my bags from me)

>>14053694
The Dow is for queers! In a bear market, there's always gonna be nasdaq trading! You're redundant! The only way to make this work is insider trading! Buy SUCROSE
God damn I miss when the worm was funny

>>14053984
First of all, you need to figure out what kinds of fees or commissions you're paying. Second, the markets been pretty volatile the last half year. About three months ago, the S&P 500 was higher than it is now, so it's not unlikely that the Betterment portfolio has followed a similar tack.

>>14054031
As it is now, GameStop has little hope for survival. However, there is always the chance for a clever and creative turnaround, especially for an activist investor or potential buyer.

In the past, I have suggested on smg that they branch out into tabletop games like magic the gathering, and try to become a destination for tournaments.

Now that esports is also something of a booming phenomenon, perhaps there is some opportunity there as well.

This is all quite unlikely, but something tells me that if you put a Jeff Bezos or Tim Apple at the top of GameStop to get as much value out of it as possible, they would come up with something.

>>14054084
>Now that esports is also something of a booming phenomenon, perhaps there is some opportunity there as well.
look up esports stages. And see if that's anything GME could even have their logo on

>>14053931
TQQQ

The Mexico tarrifs actually turned out to be 4d chess. I was doubting this before, but consider the following:

make trump look like crazy unpredictable guy to China and others

(moved forward) Fed capitulation - Powell says they are watching trade war now and are going to reflate the bubble

5% is not hugely significant, and the bar Mexico have to meet is pretty low (send some marines there)

Shanghai market keeps dumping unlike US and pretty much all western markets on this news

>>14054315
Sorry for reddit spacing Im high

>>14054315
that's assuming the Chinese are dumb enough not to actually look at what the deal entailed, if anything I'd be encouraged if I were them

>>14054237
>implying Monday will be golden bull and not green crab
What’s really the problem with non-leveraged ETFs? You wouldn’t get as much reward for as little money? So maybe the goal should be to have more money to use, not to have more leverage? You have to be confident about both the direction and the intensity of the move to really benefit from leverage.

>>14054097
I never said I was the guy to turn them around... but yeah, they’re not an arena or performance venue. Maybe a minor league? I don’t know, but I’m sure SOMEONE could make them profitable. However, most would pick a less difficult business.

>>14053931

Look at the GOOS weekly chart. Just look at this goddamn chart. Pic related. One important factoid; that most recent earnings was a beat (for EPS). They missed revenue slightly and slightly decreased guidance on expected growth. Short interest on the stock increase by 50% in the days leading in to that earnings report.

Now look at the chart.

>>14054348
Long term the direction is always up
Also they guy wanted high risk

>>14053931
GBR

>>14054080
Betterment has a 0.35% management fee not including Expense Ratio Fees on ETFs. But I can't tell what stocks that I'm losing money.

>>14054315
this just solidifies trump as a chiseler. he negotiated a deal with mexico and than dared mexico to throw it away if they didn't give more concessions on a unrelated issue. the chinese, imo, are probably less inclined to negotiate with trump now knowing he could change his mind before the ink is dry on any deal.

>>14054392
the entire reason trump told them to fuck off and slapped them with 25% is because China absolutely refused to honor any contract they sign. they immediately reneged and trump was right to put the screws to them. they will come back to the table once they realize how much foreign money is leaving china.

they haven't been beaten into a state of reasonableness yet.

>>14054358
>thinks revenue miss and lowered guidence is a beat

>>14054446

Slight. And the thing dropped from 52 down to 32 in response.

>>14054392
>unrelated issue
>sending 150,000 person army into another country every month

yeah, trump is the bad guy here. mexico is right to send 150,000 illegals a month into the USA. great post.

>>14054031
Nobody sees value in Gamestop, it is a dead end company, that only focused on profits above everything.

>>14054392
I don't know why people think China isn't falling apart

>>14054426
look it's really a he said she said deal. but negotiations are negotiations, if they haven't signed on the deal everything is still up for discussion. i ain't going to take sides and say the USA or China reneged on whatever they were said to have agreed on.

i don't think China is itching for a deal as much as trump wants to portray, it seems to me they are prepared to dig in for years.

>>14054469
cute

>>14054460
>Mexico
are people dumb enough to not realize most of those people aren't even from Mexico?

>>14054455
Lowered guidance is bad when you are trading at huge multiple. The growth was already priced in

>>14054460
USMCA did not include any discussions on immigration as it was not really a trade related issue. trumps tariffs would have violated the USMCA and neither canada or mexico would have ratified it. personally if i were mexico i would have called his bluff, but obrador seems more concerned with appearing pragmatic and amiable, a mistake with trump since he only responds to force and rhetoric.

>>14054488
>>14054505

Mexico is trafficking these people ACROSS THEIR COUNTRY from border to border. Do you honestly not believe that Mexico isn't at fault for smuggling over 1 million people a year through their own country?

ask yourself this. what does mexico make money on? narcotics and human trafficking through NGO's and cartels. how is smuggling 150,000 humans and drugs NOT REALLY A TRADE RELATED ISSUE?

>>14054522
i think mexico has a lot of problems with crime. it's one thing to say that, it's another to imply that the government is in collusion with the criminal elements.

it's not a trade issue, it's a immigration issue. mexico isn't offering to stem the flow for a kickback or deal from the US, the problem of immigration through mexico is the same for them, it's problematic. but they have to honor their commitments on human rights and refugees. i think it's really cynical to believe that the government is encouraging this behavior and not simply being overwhelmed by it, the same way the USA is being overwhelmed by it and with even better resources then them.

>>14054522
>Mexico is trafficking these people ACROSS THEIR COUNTRY from border to border
they do not need to literally traffic people across, that's retarded memeing. you do realize the cartels don't actually give the government money right? you also realize mexico has shit like oil right?
but lets look at it this way, lets say Mexicans trekked across America with the sole purpose of reaching Canada, would you stop them in the US and make them a burden on the American government? or do you just let them through and let the Canadians either get their shit together or not?

this also solves nothing, because none of it deals with the fact that central americans are still going to trek north because even dying trying to get the america is better than the hellscape the northern states are
it's like "tackling the syrian refugee crisis" which when you get down to it only is "solved" when the syrian state is peaceful enough for people to go back, and also where they're not going to be mukhabarat'd the minute they return

>>14054565
I’m sorry, have you not seen the videos of Mexican police escorting and bussing the entire caravans through Mexico? How many other countries allow over a million people work no id in? Name another country that does that. You are not thinking clearly

>>14054607
Most countries arrest or shoot you if you cross thier borders. The only reason the US doesn’t deport the 100,000 illegals that enter the US every month, is because some court in California said we can NOT deport anyone who claims asylum.

>>14054623
because you're reading headlines and not the details.

>>https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/live-updates/trump-white-house/live-fact-checking-and-analysis-of-trumps-2019-state-of-the-union-address/the-other-reason-the-mexican-government-is-escorting-migrants-to-the-border/

>>But Mexican officials say they’re also protecting the migrants and facilitating their travel because they want to avoid something darker: a deadly attack by organized crime.

even mexicans don't want the migrants passing through, but it is a logistical necessity to get them out of of the urban areas or there will be riots

>>Trump here claims authorities are doing it to move the Central Americans through Mexican territory as quickly as possible, to avoid any possible backlash by local residents. He’s right that the large caravans have placed a strain on the cities they transit through, at times sparking protests.

btw mexico tarrifs are off before they started apparently

>>14054675
SPY 350 BY End of year.

SPY calls are free money.

>>14054657

yeah, you got me there. they are leaving their southern border completely unguarded for no reason. it's not like they could send the military down there and completely close it.

don't be stupid. if you think mexico isn't actively smuggling over a million a year into the US for money, you are incredibly dumb. mexico is doing this because they are making money on the fact that ONE JUDGE has said we can not deport anyone who crosses our southern border.

thank about that. one judge declared that we can not deport anyone who crosses our southern border.

>>14054675
stock market status: trold

>>14054657
he's right anon. mexico allows over a million people a year into their country with no id, for the sole purpose of busing them through mexico. do you think these people walk through mexico? nope. they are bused the entire way. it is a very organized event.

>>14053984
Your first problem is trusting Goldman Sachs.

>>14054801
Okay. I'm not in on le ebig may mays of /biz/.

Why shouldn't I trust Goldman Sachs

>inb4 jews

>>14054819
>inb4 jews
You cant inb4 the the thing that it is

>>14054565
>it's another to imply that the government is in collusion with the criminal elements.
The Mexican government is absolutely in collusion with the cartels, how can you be this much of a naive brainlet?
How the fuck do you think the cartels could rape and murder a thousand women in Juarez City if the police did their job?

>>14054819
Are you dumb? Look up their shit with 1MDB, that's just the tip of the iceberg.
GS will sell you a product and then bet against that product.

>>14054565
>t's one thing to say that, it's another to imply that the government is in collusion with the criminal elements.

Tell that to CIA lmao

>>14054864
>Are you dumb?
Yes.

>>14054882
Well just do your research into them. I would NEVER buy any proprietary product Goldman Sachs puts out. Insured savings account, sure. You want to buy GSCI? Sure. You want to buy some GS Beta Whatever the fuck proprietary ETF, stay the fuck away.

Went to a dave and buster's ($PLAY) for the first time tonight, was lowkey awesome as hell. Might buy their stock and write calls on that if i can. I think they're slightly illiquid? But not too bad or anything. Meh div, but I think they're focused on growth - they wanted to add in 19 new stores in 2019 from their 10-k report. I should probably start diversifying outside of AMD if I can too once I hit around 20k-ish port value.

>>14054854
He doesn’t want to admit that Mexico is a lawless shithole.

>They don’t smuggle drugs or people
>The Government clearly has nothing to do with the cartels.

>>14054912
They opened one in my city last year and it's always packed when I pass by. I haven't gotten to go yet because my frens unironically hate having fun :(

>>14054939
You just gotta convince them that playing guitar hero while shitfaced is based as hell. I was still playing on expert mode after 4 drinks and I only failed 2 songs.

IIPR hit record highs today, just like im record high 420 today

Don't forget to buy $VRUS on Monday friends.

$0.02 still isn't too late!

Shame you missed $0.01.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-says-u-s-has-reached-deal-with-mexico-11559954306

very cool, fake trade war resolved! continue buying stocks!

>>14054643
Uhh... that's not a california law. It's something most developed countries do, but it can certainly be exploited.

If I were in charge of a country, and saw that another country, lets say Lichtenstein, were rounding up everyone of a certain ethnicity and killing them, I would definitely want to offer safe harbor to all of their engineers, physicists, medical researchers, and other specialized fields, and rescue them with a policy of "asylum." Of course, I'd have to take some rejects too, otherwise I'd get shit from the international community.

They'd probably be so thankful they'd just dedicate themselves to my war effort--I mean cellular networking infrastructure plan.

>>14054912
>I should probably not put all my money into one stock
>Probably
Just don't rush it. Not easy to find winners like AMD. Might I recommend you buy the next Healthcare FUD in Merck or UNH, or perhaps wait for the next tweet that tanks the market and hit up my friends MO, DIS, and MCD? (obviously KO, but good luck finding it cheap if it's not a total recession)

GH while hammered is top notch. Used to play rockband with my roommates when I was a big drinker. Good, sloppy, noisy times.

>>14055024
You forgot the part where they are politically socialist and develop cancerous political and sociological programs in top academies, leading to such things as third wave feminism, anti-white politics, and general progress towards socialism.

>>14053931
>Looking for a highrisk stock that i can dump $1000 into.
$LK

>>14055039
I'm not sure that's inevitable, or irreversible. And it's definitely not my chief concern in a world where nuclear war is still a possibility.

Have you seen that image with the "hard times create strong men, create easy times, create weak men, create hard times" cycle?

Hard times also show people what matters. When the first country gets glassed, and people remember what terror feels like, the "culture wars" will be shoved aside for shit that actually matters.

When there's a real and tangible crisis, people stop caring about things that aren't necessary for survival.

>>14055024
Man, I don't regret selling out of my KO because I more than made up for it in the exchange of opportunity costs, but I'll be damned for buying it at >$50 per share. I'll get it eventually again, I swear. As far as the others go:
>MO
3rd world discretionary stock = meh
>DIS
buy the mouse lose your house
>MCD
unironically based and their orange creme milkshakes are the best. I always get a double quarter pounder with no onions and extra pickles and mustard. Sometimes I make them steam a brioche bun too if I'm feeling above the masses.

I'm still affixed on the goal of acquiring 1000 shares of AMD to get a nice steady stream of premiums and diversifying with 100 of the following (i added sbux and v, removed f):
>AAPL
>KO
>MCD
>MSFT
>O
>SBUX
>STAG
>V

Gonna cost me a shitton to realize the entire port obviously, and it'll take me better part of over a year, but goddamn it'll be better than having to wageslave.

>>14055140
You're entitled to your opinion, and maybe those are better for writing calls on, but I think you're missing out with MO. For better or worse, 420BLAZEIT is the future.

DIS is well positioned for the streaming wars. Are you evaluating based on the growth and profitability of the stock, or how you personally feel about the company?

>>14055181
Mostly due to my lack of knowledge in their respective industries. Theme parks are absolutely massive and complex, and I have no conceivable way of understanding their operation or business model (yea i could read the 10-k but cmon).

I don't like MO, or more accurately, weed. Mainly because the consumption of it produces smoke and vapors. That doesn't really suite well in a public environment with other people. Lots of people are naturally disenfranchised to smoky atmospheres, mostly by health problems like asthma. Therefore, I see weed as a commodity that can really only be consumed in private, unlike say an amusement park or a bar. I predict that most entertainment companies won't be able to utilize weed properly for their target demographics as a result. With MO's heavy involvement in private weed equity, I think they'll suffer significant material loss. Or be heavily disappointed by revenue sales.

Also while DIS streaming does sound legit, I'm willing to bet it'll account for less than 3-7% of their net income (haven't read DIS filings tho so maybe idk they could be heavily leveraged and dependent on it for all i know). Pirating is NOT a victim-less crime either and Disney will suffer intangible asset loss. I'm sure they've factored that into their guidance though.

I do also happen to know the IV on those 2 particular stocks are low enough that I don't consider the risks associated with writing covered calls to be worth justifying the time value of capital poured in. Maybe as late game port holds, but definitely not going to be a part of my core structure.

>>14055272
I like the way you think (even though I haven't leveled up enough to into options)

>disenfranchised to smoky atmospheres
A little confused on what you mean here, but I think non-combustables, vaping in particular, have a lot of promise, especially if being too smokey becomes a problem.

No idea how much disney will take in from streaming compared to the rest of the company, but I THINK they're biggest money maker is films, not amusement park or TV, even though those are big as I'm sure merch/licensing is also big.

They put out some real turds sometimes (John Carter), but Dis has a way of capitalizing on successful properties and milking the hell out of them, while also pleasing their target audience (Frozen, Marvel, Toy Story, Lion King, etc.)

reminder: 95% of stock pickers fail to beat the SPY

>>14055577
its not about the money bro, its about enjoying yourself

>>14055653
in that case you should just join a paper trading competition