/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>14036718
the ICO bagholders are a big problem, everytime the project pumped a bit the bagholders keep dumping it back down. not sure what to do about this tbqhfam

>>14036746
It means they are unloading bags meaning the # of Wallets will increase, you want them dumping now before it has had any REAL pumps.
Just keep accumulating

>>14036718
Nobody falls for gook scams after ICX

Its 35 mil mcap 143 with no product so dunno about fair value.

If they can execute (big if dont start testnet bullushit) ill just dump 500 eth on it whatever price is at that point.

But i doubt smells on bunch of gooks using 1 good dev to scam roundeyes and Andre looks aware token is scam, ico was scam and he never talks about - of dags only + (yes shocking dags have pros and cons)

Also to much hype created by payed shills and payed yt shills

>>14036879
It’s really not that hyped of a coin, it’s shilled here but this board is slow and not as big as leddit or normie crypto sites

>>14036918

They literally payed every yt shill out there to pormote it.

EACH ONE and that kickstarted hype

>>14036940
Damn

>>14036940
that is also giving me bad vibes. It's this justin sun tier marketing when I look at their twitter page or what their telegram admins write. Very cringy desu.

>>14036990
Also half of hype and price of coin is listening Andre and thinking "I must invest in this man"-

Andre is on 6m contracts and if gooks do gook things Im betting hes out.

don’t forget the obvious shills creating the low effort memes and pasting the same 3 YouTube links with that Andre faggot

>>14037003

Yap

I (semi) made it in 2017 and dont mind paying 10x premium if shit worsk desu... beats jumping from hyped shitcoin to hyped shitcoin

>>14037031
may I ask what bags you are currently holding that you think will be good for a starting bullrun?

>>14037023
Also this yeah.

Shills are so bad and memes are low quality also "next eth" narative kinda backfired for 2345345 projects every "next eth" from 2017 is eather dead or alive but pivoting around idea what it wants to be (icx is smartcity shit now, neo is gaming coin (lol?), eos is i dunno wtf)

ALSO so much promises from dags and we have 0 functional dags 3 years after, I hate to say it because i hate it with passion (because payment coins are doa) but nano is only one working dag and they they had 243423 technical
problems on security/exchandge implementation front and thats jsut transfering zeroes and ones, now think about ftm scope and all promises....yeah...

>>14036879
>Also to much hype created by payed shills and payed yt shills
at least put your post in google translate before you fud properly pajeet

>>14037023
>creating the low effort memes
so like every shitcoin on here?

>>14037062
Have no idea desu, noone knows.
MY bags are 25% stablecoins, 25% eth, 25btc and 25% top 15 coins (dont want to shill desu)

What i do know shitcoins from 2017 (below 200mcap) are dead, and 2019 shitcoins will pump and die same as last time.

>>14037141

Yeah not eng native i must be rajesh or whatever good arguments

>>14037141

Yeah not eng native i must be rajesh or whatever tnx for input

>>14037163
>>14037177
>can't speak a language that is taught throughout the EU and america
>claims to not be a pajeet
don't be mad that your stuck holding literal shit

>>14037153
well the longer you browse /biz, the more you'll get a feeling for what is organic and what is paid shills. all the FTM memes are clearly forced and the shilling is pajeet-tier. everyone knows FTM is paying twitter and youtube shills (and most likely also /biz shills)

>>14037003
>It's this justin sun tier marketing
it's literally what you want faggot

>>14037214
>all the FTM memes are clearly forced and the shilling is pajeet-tier. everyone knows FTM is paying twitter and youtube shills (and most likely also /biz shills)
what exactly qualifies as organic or not? this type of logic makes no sense considering literally every alt-coin here has identical meme formats. the "muh paid shills meme" was something that died in 2017 and is only a cope by election refugees from /pol/ when they can't deal with opposing views.

>>14037285
You are arguing with retards. It is futile.

>>14037285
sure. i kind of made it in 2017 already, so i have seen my fair share of shills. and as i said, you can just tell after some time. i vividly remember the retard shills that auto-posted the same five memes for days. everyday the same 3-4 pastas and all the images followed the same naming convention i.e. fantom-01.jpg, fantom-02.jpg, etc. I have only seen this type of thing with pajeet coins and discord coordinated pnds. end of discussion - the team even admitted publicly that they are paying for the shills.

>>14037392
Then do you also remember the "retard shills" who posted Antshares non-stop? How did that work out for those of us who bought into the retarded shilling?

>>14037403
>muh antshares vibes
>muh fantshares vibes
>fantshares
yikes. ANS didn't dump to 0.20x of ICO, not sure why we compare the two... other coins were shilled much more than ANS by the way, faggots tend to forget that (nice example of survivorship bias)

>>14037472
Ok let's talk about any other shitcoin. You pick one. Let's pick that shitcoin of all shitcoins COSS. Total shitcoin right? Didn't stop getting to over $2 at some point. Do you think the smart ones who sold at that price care about whether it was a shitcoin or not? Do you think I care if FTM is a shitcoin or not? I am just buying low and trying to sell high, man.
>muh I'm in it for the technology

>>14037505
i am not planning to make a debating contest out of this, let's not get carried away here.

i don't even mind if you bet money on this. i am probably staying in Tether and BTC to see where we are going. No. reason to gamble my shekels away before we have a clear bull confirmation. Good luck.

>>14037575
Let me take a wild guess desu. You semi made it with XRB back in 2017? Same for me. Sadly waited to long before I sold it but still got a nice stash thanks to it.

>>14037607
yeah same, XRB was the biggest part of it kek

Is this the 250 sats stable coin?

>>14037711
would have necked myself if I didn't get my xrbs out of shitgrail in time. Was damn lucky with that one.

>>14037825
yeah i don't wanna know how many fags got PTSD from that shit show. i have been lucky too.

Most of you are too retarded to make it. I finally see it.

Read the fucking tech papers retards. Thisnis your chance to do some fucking research on your own and to make a killer financial decisions. Instead you'll wait to find out that they have been invited in the EEA, that the Dubai news are gonna he huge, that mainnet is coming before everyone expects it, thatcthey will be listed on all major exchanges and that their tech actually lives.up to the hype.

Fucking kek at the lot of you.

>>14037944
Can you enlighten us uninformed faggots.. Sounds interesting.

>>14037968
I had 33k nano on mercatox at the peak of nano bull run and was forced to sell @25$ (7$ below market value at the time) to get my coins in BTC to get them off that fucking shit exchange since nano withdrawals.were disabled for liken8 weeks. Wasn't nearly as bad as the bitgrail bros but it was fucking shitty nonetheless.

>>14037959
The dubai news is going to be nothing. The question is whether to sell after that or wait for mainnet which almost never makes the price go up.

>>14038018
yeah man. I had around the same amount of XRB. 36K. it's sad what became out of Nano... currently holding none. Though I am thinking of buying some back just for sentimental value. Still think its a good coin. What about you? (sorry I know I take my own thread offtopic with all that but whatever)

>>14038055
I'm gonna let some of my current alts blossom and will surely pick a little stack of nano in the future for good ol' memories sake

>>14038066
my plan exactly good sir. Meanwhile lets see what FTM got going for it.

>>14038066
May I ask you what your alts are?

>>14038164
I hold FTM, VIDT, FSN, RSR. I'm holding FTM and FSN long term and trading the others

>>14038282
But I should say: I always end up keeping a small portion of all my trading bags for the long term, you never know the kinds of crazy X's you'll get at peak bull market

>>14038282
I like how you don't hold any of the binance pump (and yet to dumps). I also hold FTM and RSR. My newest bag is Tezos. Think this thing is gonna do good and I'll buy more.

>>14038282
What do you think of VIDT? How high do you think the marketcap will go?

Everyone who thinks fantom is a fake coin should have graduated high school or turned their attention spans to longer than 20 seconds. Fantom has tons of info on almost every aspect of it. Look at the code, read how the mechanics work for transactions. It's lots of work, but nothing that can be posted on biz in digestible format.

aBFT isn't just some phoney mumbo jumbo, they have laid out how consensus works. This is more secure than almost all crypto on the market.

Speed, same DAG tech with it's own organization to make the finality as efficient as possible.

Smart contracts: can import eth's. Simple as that.

>>14038414
Thanks bruh. I am a brainlet when it comes to determining what makes a good coin or a bad one due to zero programmer knowledge. Got a good feeling about ftm though from all I read about it.

>>14038339
How much value does a token that's not needed have?

>>14038630
>muh blockchain technology must have a usage
Let me rephrase: How high is this shitcoin going to go before it gets dumped?

>>14038414
FTM bagholders have been absolutely JUSTED. i understand everyone who is trying to get out.

>>14038638
When they get listed. Medium term 15-20 M. Maybe like 100M top of bull. You'll be able to trade the utility tokens for security tokens next year so it may be an incentive to accumulate. Will have the effect of greatly reducing utility token supply when ppl trade it for VIDS.also consumer apps letting anyone send their tokens to validate any file.

>>14038414
Exactly, those who cant be bothered to verify for themselves or dont have the mental capacity to realize the actual novelty and potential dont deserve the extra help or the gains at this point. It's been put out there enough and they simply came to a wrong conclusion

>>14038907
I'm actually up quite a bit. FTM has been recovering nicely and anyone with half a brain would be accumulating as much as possible

>>14038930
why do people still fall for asian projects in 2019? haven't we had enough gook/chink scams by now? i literally can't thonk of a asian biz project that hasn't crashed to shit.

>>14038907
Lol panic boys sold. I'm way up and not selling at 2 fucking cents. If the big bull run starts I would be dumb to be holding btc or cash. So many more coins are worse and I'm happy with fantom because what's in store.

>>14038995
> muh all gook coins are scams meme hur dur!!11

>>14038995
I demand your respect pleb

>>14039033
Yes, this is a perfect summary and graphic of their retardation. Well done.

>>14037211
you're*

>>14038999
>>14039033
>>14039049
>>14039055
summerfags are back

>>14037154
If you own anything from 2017/18 and expecting to make your money back, I wouldn't hold my breathe. Ive lost more than most invested on that shit and I know its never coming back. Thats why Im all in the new-era shitcoins baby. Especially ones that are gonna be shilled by Binance like FTM and BOLT

>>14037285
>/pol/
this is how I know to disregard your opinion because you are so obsessed with /pol/ whenever they have absolutely nothing to do with conversation at all

>>14039307
not gonna lie, you sound kinda desperate anon. we deserve nothing, i am not even expecting another bull-run within the next 3-5 years desu. we need fresh blood, new money, and the thing is boomers hate crypto while millennials/zoomers are the poorest generation in a long time plagued by debt and shit-tier jobs/higher living costs. on top of that the recession is right around the corner. who is going to pump your bags, like seriously?