/biz/ - Business & Finance

Israel has no right to exist.

Israel is an illegitimate terrorist state.

>>13986403
Neither does the market at current levels. Expect another healthy sell off tomorrow.

>>13986367
b-buying TVIX above $25 kinda asking for it ... X_x
buy SPXL or SPY

On a scale of 1 to screwed, what's your take on people born after the year 1990? Are they really in that bad of shape, generally speaking?

Israel is going to rebuild King Solomon's temple.

>AMZN

Deutsche Bank is going down! Load up on puts if you want to be rich! Take out loans if you have to!

>>13986446
Not if I stop them with my mind

I think $KHC is due a rebound eventually (pic related)

>>13986442
in general they're screwed
born 91, on;y debt is mortgage, making ~90K base salary, very healthy savings and low expenses
save ~50% of my base salary, now probably more.
very nice and well maintained portfolio that will generate strong and increasing gains
good health

most other people my age are doing worse, the only people I know in better shape then me had nice gfs from high school that they can marry young and share expenses with while making slightly less than me :/

>>13986446
not if I build it first !

>>13986453

Give a little bit
Give a little bit of your FUD to me
Give a little bit
I'll give a little bit of my gainz to you
There's so much that we need these shares
So send some cash and show these bears

>>13986491
the rebound has already maybe begun
maybe it has one more down leg in it, maybe not

also do you have any more of them images there
definitely makes me feel bullish

Life sucks when you have an encyclopedia dramatica and Kiwifarms. I don't think I can even hold a job anymore let alone try to become a millionaire

W-wow lots of edge today! Very pol!
Remember, we don't have very many allies right now...
Next Tariff: Saudis?
>>13986477
dubs!
What's wrong with more temples? Very pretty, lot nicer than mosques that don't even have chair technology yet.

>>13986441
I don't want to go long, but thanks
Longs are betting on Powell cutting rates on wednesday I think? I would not bet on that happening.

Only other reason is MAYBE we get something bullish from Tr*mp. But I don't think he's going to back down, and I don'tthink the market believes all the bull tweets anymore. OR maybe we get a sudden "you win!" from mexico or china?

So then why are you Long?

>>13986515
Do you believe you are an outlier? What % of folks in that age group have negative net worth? Over 50%?

>>13986544
lol sorry I don't, but i bet Bing would help you out if you search "hotdog BDSM"

LGCY headed to $5.

Do noy miss this opportunity

>>13986578
Solomon's temple am critical part of judeo-masonic eschatology. not to sound antisemitic but I would prefer the world not to be destroyed/brought to pure antinomian hell in order to lawyer the messiah into returning.

>>13986578
me dont care about any of that stuff WTF O_O
going long because there were alot of buying into desperate selling

>>13986578
>Longs are betting on Powell cutting rates on Wednesday I think?
I think the bet is that he just opens the door to cutting rates once or twice later in the year, the market isn't requiring a rate cut immediately.

But if he says 'no rate cuts this year' people are gonna get SPOOKED

>>13986592
I don't know what people's net worth is.
I am an outlier for my age in terms of net worth or earnings.
These days the only people who I could even guess how they're doing would be mostly engineers (people I work with or went to college with), most are positive networth but don't own houses (rent mostly, or live with parents).
The people I went to HS with live in other states, I have no idea how they're doing.
if you want more specific info you have to ask more specific questions, or post more tied-up MILFs
you can look up statistics on earnings and debt by age group you know...

PROTIP

>>13986675
Ok, I was just looking for anecdote. I've seen some stats and it sounded like you were definitely an outlier. Plus the news media likes to screech gloom and doom for people between 27-37 years old.

>>13986645
Only happens if Christian prophecy is correct. You believe their propaganda? They put the fear of god in you, you're hedging.

>>13986675
god damn it you're probably right. Then we really COULD rally after the fed meeting wednesday.

>>13986668
uhhh that very cut* but... there's always buying into selling, right? can't sell if no one to buy...

No mater who wins the Streaming Wars I'll win heh, Then once AMRN gets bo I'll really win.

>>13986791
if you want doom and gloom anecdotes you can go ask on /pol/ or /r9k/, you might get more response. you can search the /biz/ or /pol/ archives if you want to read stories... ( with unreliable narrator)

most of the NEETs here are shy to give actual details, from what I gather most of the posters here aren't in significant debt but also don't have significant earnings or net worth.

an anecdote I can give is a friend who I work with who is 30, has some 5-figure student loan debt, and only pays the minimum. Spends all his extra money on video game BS for him and his GF (she's a nice person, but kind of lame and unattractive IMO). He makes a little more than I make, could have paid those loans off by now. sad.

what about yourself, are you a zoomer or a boomer?

>>13986807
it's not hedging, just acknowledging certain truths
>>13986791
>45-54
o no. Is that consumer debt? Surely not student loans??

>>13986928
have you heard of a thing called a mortgage

Green day confirmed.
outrages amount of Retail shorts trapped

>>13986928
homes

>>13986956
oh I assumed they weren't counting mortgages for some reason. I think that means it's nap time

Is it bad to short SPX right now?

>>13986916
I'm an 80s millennial, got debt but only about $1,000 or so isn't backed by an asset of some kind. Positive net worth and all the basics covered (IRA, 401(k), etc). Consider myself lucky desu, but most peers that I know are doing about as well if not better than me.

>>13986880
>Forgot about CBS, Viacom, Netflix
>Never even heard of Amazon Prime Video
kek

>>13986928
>certain truth
That the messiah was born to a human woman, and once his tribe inhabits a certain patch of land, that same messiah will come down to rain fire on the earth and steal all the good folks off to heaven?

You seem like you're hedging.

I think, ancient books hold much wisdom, but not too much good for "future predictions" beyond basic fundamental truths (order -> chaos -> order, repeat)

>>13986916
Well I'm 36. My only debt is my house. Think god me and my Wife avoided the college debt trap. (didn't bother with it). Both cars are paid off. I've got a steady state job. Pension/401k. I make shit (27k) but the cost of living is low and even after bills/etc I'm left with around $350 - 400 every month. Wife brings home a nice haul also. I can retire "fully" from my job at 50 years old. get full package. Pension is there for life unless the state just goes tits up broke (won't happen; those fucks would die of shame plus the black lash from it during the next election cycle would be bad on them)

>>13987017
>>13986916

>Be born 1986
>Have degree
>Have six figure career
>Paid off all student loans about five years ago
>Net worth of ~$200,000
>$100,000 cash on hand
>All the accounts in place: 401(k), IRAs, etc.
>Approximately $28,000 truck debt (crashed my car in January); $490 minimum payment
>Usually put $750 to $1,000 at truck to maintenance the debt faster
>Stack the rest of money into brokerage and savings accounts
>Live life

>>13986384
Based edition

>>13986453
Days like this make me feel better about selling my AMZN share in January

>>13986046
Decent day, considering I was at -3.00% (almost -$130) at one point this morning premarket

How am I supposed to tell the guy that signs the cheques that I bought TLT puts because the thought of spending 72 hours in cash was giving me ADHD?

>SPXS swan dive
Woah!

>>13987091
nice stuff
what kind of real estate holdings, old man?
why even bother posting
>Have degree

>>13987017
>but most peers that I know are doing about as well if not better than me
that might just be based on the people you know.
Like for me, I don't know anyone IRL who doesn't have a decent job (above average yearly wage), but of course the majority of people have average job/below average job/no job, I just don't know any of those people. The only time I'm reminded that lots of real NEETs exist is in these threads :/

>>13987059
Although I may be getting a pay bump. Current Gov is the least liked in the whole U.S. I think he's even hated more than Trump. Anyway to try to curry favor with state workers I think he may be going to give us all a pay bump. Kinda a "bribe" to get us to vote for him this year. (Not me, I'll take the money though)

THREADLY REMINDER THAT DIVIDENDS ARE YOUR FREN

Doggo of the DOW edition

How's Apple doing lads?

>>13986993
Risky. If you want to short during a down trend you do it near the top of an oversold bounce.

>>13987305
Exit my shorts?
Not making that mistake again...

Im depressed that I'll never be rich because I ruined my life ;__;

You guys need to buy LGCY

This shit is going to $7 and beyond

Where is the other anon who was holding CY? I bet he's filthy rich today!

>>13987419
Jesus fuck FINE.

Post your link and when I finish failing my exam I’ll tell you how I fucked my life up worse, yet still have hope.
Unless had gender reassignment, have kids, or have insurmountable financial debt, that is out of my scope.

>>13987444
Nope it's going to stop at $0.50 because I bought some.

>>13986384
TESLA

>>13987502
WHO ELSE IS LONG ON TSLA

a ton of insider buys on GALT just now
Uihlein bought over 5 million shares in the RO

>G-GALT is dead
>insiders buying literally millions of shares

>>13987543
>He thinks Tesla is going to make it.

>>13987587
>>13987602

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1133416/000117902219000032/xslF345X03/edgar.xml
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1133416/000117902219000037/xslF345X03/edgar.xml
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1133416/000117902219000036/xslF345X03/edgar.xml
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1133416/000117902219000035/xslF345X03/edgar.xml
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1133416/000117902219000034/xslF345X03/edgar.xml
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1133416/000117902219000033/xslF345X03/edgar.xml

>>13987786
so he overpaid for some shares?
so did you, do you want a gold star?

>>13987830
>wut r warrants
>wut is liquidity

The RO makes sense for the actual big money who can't buy without driving the price up

>>13987602
cope

>suddenly spxs limit buy goes through
>my position is now in the red

PANIIIICCCC!!!!

Did something happen? Something good? We going Bull tomorrow?

>>13987891
Buckle in. Last chance before launch.

>>13987908
Bull market depends on whether or not this doofus changes into something other than clown clothes

A couple more day of this and i might begin to forgive trump

Has anyone ITT actually made it through stocks? Got any stories?

>>13987444
I hope you're right.

>>13988032
what kind of stories?

>>13987961
What happens if he gets impeached in the middle of the steak dinner with the queen? Do they have to escort him out of the palace?

>>13988048
IDK, how much you made, how lucky you got, etc. No idea really, just wanted to see if anyone ever made a ton of money ITT through stocks and how they went about doing it. I'm not really even looking for advice, just looking around for stories I guess.

>>13988058
That’s actually a good question lol

>>13988073
you buy index funds until you have enough to live off it

then you have made it

thats it

>>13988032
dollar cost averaging into safe mutual funds and dividend stocks has me at $400K in the market. it took some time but I should be around halfway there.

>>13988032
I once made so much I cashed out and only had to pay something like $100 iirc

>>13988032

I dunno about anyone else but provided nothing bad happens to T for the next 28+ yrs I'm looking at having over 35k in income money coming at me. That's on top of my other income streams. I make shit now (27k).

>>13988158
In the short term (relatively speaking) I stand to make around 18 - 40k thanks to AMRN alone

is AMZN dropping because Mackenzie Bezos is liquidating her assets? (she pledged 18 billion to charity)

just bought 1000 shares of BSV on robinhood crypto

wish me luck boys!

>>13988226
I think it's just falling with all the other tech, that sector got skullfucked today

>>13988158
I got a handy T spread sheet that gives me all the gory details. If I started this at age 20 w/only 100 shares by age 65 I'd have 6,680,773.00 in income. This is just w/Drip and not buying anymore shares over time.

>>13988226
That's only half her worth. she still has 18 billion left

>>13988226
she's just pledging to donate, doesn't mean she's selling half today. likely the shares are going to be transferred to a trust

>>13988226
AMZN and FB are to be investigated by FTC, GOOGL and AAPL are to be investigated by DoJ.
It's kinda big news

galtboi is so cringe

>>13988299
Can you imagine if you owned Google shares and the company got Split up? You'd get shares in each new company for free. Then if each company went on to make loads of Profit you'd end up right nicely

>>13988299
Yeah but FB is fine and it means nothing just a procedure and protocol like a doctor making you do blood work right guys?

democrats and republicans will try to determine if fb, goog, and amzn, use their power to suppress competition

>>13988299
I've seen this one before. Trump was under investigation for 2 years and it cost like 40 million dollars, and they found out he said mean things and fired an FBI director.

>>13988084
What index funds would you buy for income?

>>13988403
VTSAX. Never sell until you retire.

>>13988326
If you’re seriously longing FB you got a whole world of hurt coming. My Jan 2020 100$ strike puts are going to be sweet that shit is going to tank hard after these investigations find the smoking gun(privacy backtracking) and BOOM instant 20% decline
Get ready. Never EVER long a social media company.

>>13988335
How many tax dollars will it take to conclude the obvious?

>>13988403
ETO

>>13988460
c-can't c-cuck the zuck

>>13988459
> VTSAX
> 1.86% yield

Ehh... gotta have a lot of shekels to live off that

>>13987305
I was hoping just to set my stop at 2900 and maintain margin rather than wait for a big rally that might never come. Makes for a rough ride by whatever I'm feeling very fatalistic these days

>>13988460
don't be daft, nobody cares about privacy. If they find any evidence of wrongdoing FB will pay a fine...
Think of it as if they lost a patent lawsuit à la QCOM v. AAPL or GOOG v. EU

The obscene amount of profits FB makes will keep investors interested for a long time.

>>13988521
> ETO
> 9.76% yield

That’s more like it!

House Judiciary Committee announces after market close that they are also joining the executive branch in investigating the tech companies

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/03/tech/tech-antitrust-house-probe/index.html

interesting legislative vs executive turf war going on

also very interesting at how the US is front-running any FUD China can throw: China can put all these companies on 'a list' tonight and it won't matter, Trump already blew 5% off their market caps. Very interesting.

old alphabet org chart related

>>13988538
SDIV

>Div yield 8.58%

>>13988588
Fat cat dividend right there

>>13988521
>ETO

total Expense Ratio 2.09%
wow interesting

>>13988573
DYOR broski. I've got some more for you if you want 'em.

>>13988588
Watch out with SDIV. Not a strong play. Been there, sold that.

>>13988614
Why? It's trading kinda low at the moment...

>>13988614
Yeah man, lets hear them. Gonna make a screenshot collage of these

>>13988640
It is forever going towards the ground. They use sales to cover dividends. Your best hope would be to trade it out on a big pop, but then that defeats the dividend. It's just a good way to suck money out. I owned it for about a year and a half.

I bought more amazon today. Obvious trade, I'm going to make 5%+ in the next few days.

>>13988663
Damn that sounds like a Ponzi scheme if I've ever seen any. I second >>13988662 let's hear em.

>>13988663
Here is my whole portfolio. Roughly 100k, yielding 11.6%.

ABBV
AM
ARCC
BDCL
CEFL
CNXM
D
DVHL
EPD
ETO
IEP
LMLP
MAIN
MRRL
SMHD
USAC

>>13987162

Same anon. Just posting from home instead of the office now.

None yet. I got cucked hard by the Basketball American In Chief’s economy when I completed my undergrad. So work was extremely hard to come by but eventually I made it.

I put

>have degree

Because it is not necessarily implied that my success and station derive from higher education. I could’ve been an entrepreneur, a high end salesperson, or a tradesman who could equally have all those things.

>>13988723
>Basketball American In Chief’s economy
Except it really stemmed from Clinton-era polices (subprime lending) which were not altered by Bush Jr. Obama bailing out the auto industry was pretty clutch, though Obamacare's implementation was pretty much a complete disaster.

I sold off my entire portfolio on friday and put 50k into TQQQ puts today. Made 5k so far. The recession is gonna be comfy

why cant 2750 hold gosh dangit

>>13988764
because you touch yourself!!!! >___<

>The things he and Jay Gould did fifty-odd years ago could not be done today, and never should have been done. But then, neither could J.P. Morgan and E.H. Harriman, who were of a different type, do some of the things that nobody dreamed of reproaching them for doing when they did them a few years ago. The methods of high finance have undergone salutary changes and there are more laws and restrictions designed to protect the public. And still the public loses money as easily as ever, because, though methods change and laws multiply and predatory wealth is curbed, the sucker is still the sucker. He is protected against everybody — except himself; and against everything — except the delusion of easy money.

— Reminiscences of a Stock Operator, 1901

>>13988567
>obscene amount of profits
On dead tech and dying industries! Google was smart and played all fronts and while I admit FB has some startups that are panning our well at the end of the day when regulation kicks in and copyright lawsuits start flying you’re going to see FB levels lower than ever and the rest of the NAsdaq will just say we told you so.

>>13988830
That image looks like a karma sutra diagram.

>>13988698
This was meant for
>>13988662
>>13988679

>>13988698
Dude what the hell... nice... I see some have TTM close to 23% how can that possibly be sustainable?

>>13988830
>As a young boy, Gould decided he wanted nothing to do with farming, his father's profession, and so his father dropped him off at a nearby school with 50 cents and a sack of clothes.

ahhhh, reminds me of my youth

except now I want to go back to farming, you know.
Just need to save up a few million of my own money and I can move away from cities for good. I just want to live somewhere rural near mountains and grow my own food

>>13988790
no me dont >_>

>>13988929
You don't need millions to do that, anon

>>13988460
You might be right about social media companies, but Facebook isnt social media business. Its a data exchange with damn near everything short of your SSN for sale. That makes it very different from something like MySpace or Snapchat.

>>13988921
Because you don't look at the basic metrics for companies like that. One of the key metrics I use is distributable cash flow, DCF. A lot of the high-yielder's have those yields because they are vehicles to expand with tax advantages. The only thing they have to do is pay out 90% of their earnings as distributions. Hence the DCF metric. How much money does the company have rotating through it, payable to me.

>>13988984
liar liar you probably rubbed one out while watching price action today!

Glad to see the dbc is over, 5 months is a little longer than I expected.
t. sold the bottom in December

>>13986384
>buying the rock bottom at AMD

Lisa Su, you are the way the truth and the money nobody gets to the gains of heaven but without you.

>>13988988
You do if you want to afford land to grow food because you sure as hell aren't going to make a profit doing that

when will stocktards admit that they're wrong and that cryptotards were right all along?

>>13989183
When are you going to trade options and lose all your fucking money and die broke?

>>13988988
I feel like I do though
we're talking about 6-7 figures just for the land, then 50 years of property taxes. That's just the land and property taxes...
then what about my high speed internet, weekly foot massages, anime girl pillows and posters every season, guns and ammo to keep the bears from ripping me up, etc. etc.
I'm gonna need multiple badass tractors and a huge workshop with all kinds of fancy tools

>>13989115
ew
why can't poverty ever make people skinny in America
why are they all always fat
I just want to move somewhere with no fat people


>>13989183
not today ;^)

>>13989183
when crypto amounts to something

>>13986419
It's not me you need to convince it's the brain dead fundes in the USA

>>13989210
poor people are both poor and fat for the same reason, bad decision making. It's v sad desu, healthy foods are cheap and nummy but they opt for the sugar soda and potate chip for the same reason they take on reckless debt and bad spending. It's modernity's fault tho, they should be having a chill life in a fun hut eating shrimp and not knowing how to read, instead technocapital has forced them into cities, judged them lacking, and is in the process of murdering them.

>>13987908
Today always had the feeling of a panic sell, OK so ONE company is up for antitrust doesn't mean all tech has to be Google is always up to shady bullshit. Wouldn't be bad to let it go up about 50% retrace of the losses.

>>13988226
>the chad McKenzie
>Sell at the top
>give half to charity
>look amazing like a walking goddess

>be the virgin Bezos
>have to hold your shares
>they lose half their value
>you are literally Lex Luthor on crack
>everyone hates you

>>13989263
>is in the process of murdering them.

U sure about that?

>>13989263
Part of the issue is that from eating like shit since childhood, people don't know how much what they eat has a direct effect on the body. Also, so many people being fat means a false comfort in conformity.

>>13988984
>>13988764
:0
Both of you plox continue rubbing, me need big crashy on tomorrow!!!

>>13989210
Ok, yeah, I forgot about the daki makuras, you're right. You will need some scratch for that

>+$15.20 after hours
t-thanks

>>13989316
The IQ shredder is obviously part of this, technocapital is in the process of sieving people out into the techno-aristocratic hijra upperclass and afro-latino mulatto shudra depth grovellers (who die early). I suspect we're going to see real changes in human morphology over the next hunnit years as this intensifies and self-amplifies

>>13989263
I see fat and poor people being unhappy all of the time, but of course fit and well-off people can be just as unhappy in the current situation

I'm just tired of seeing rotund and/or brown people everywhere. It's just weird to have been very young right before the fat bomb hit. I can remember very vaguely the mid-late 90's when I was young and people were less fat and less brown across the board. It wasn't that long ago, btu so much has changed

>>13989366
I was joking about most of it, but for real, if you want rural living with utilities and internet and no income sources besides safe divvies from investments, you need a pretty large chunk to start with. At least 1.5M, but probably more. don't want to risk running out of money in 15 years and having to try and figure out how to make some income to pay property tax as a wildman who hasn't been in civilization in so long

>>13989210
>why can't poverty ever make people skinny in America
It typically works like this:

-Parents work 1, maybe 2 jobs to make ends meet
-Older kids might also work
-No real time to prep meals, so they eat cheap garbage instead of cooking vegetables
-Might live in poverty stricken area/food desert

It's most likely the terrible diet and lack of exercise

>>13989404
Yeah, a few million would be comfy af

WHAT'S COOKING

WHAT'S POPPING

IT'S YA BOI

PAD CHENNINGTON

>>13989389
>techno-aristocratic hijra upperclass
you're going to have to let me know what you mean by that, when I google hijra it not making too much sense

>I suspect we're going to see real changes in human morphology over the next hunnit years as this intensifies and self-amplifies

yeah we're breeding and genetically engineering domesticated catgirls, that part is old news

>>13989413
Don't understand how so many people can not exercise I guess. wild stuff

>>13989546
the rulers of the kingdoms (and I do mean kingdoms, think super-governmental megacorps with CEO-Kings who rule via the divine right of efficient allocation of capital) of the future will all be trannies. Trannies have big brains. I know this because being trans is just a symptom of information-overload, brought on by extreme exposure to the internet. Do you know any transgenders who don't use the internet a lot and watch a lot of anime? Didn't think so. What a lot of people don't realize is that this isn't a bad reaction to stimulus, it's a preemptive survival strategy and adaptation to the coming age of technocapital. MtF transgenders have statistically significantly higher IQ than other population, and their immense rates of suicide self-select for the most ruthless and psychopathic among them. Also they'll all be hapas.

>>13989389
>hijra upperclass

You're saying there will be more genders than atoms in the universe?

>TFW you & your partner get bespoke luxury genitals that are only compatible with each other.

>>13989704
Yikes

Nobody really does shit anymore. It's all "face buried in phone or computer" soon as they get home from school/work or get done with shit around the house. Nobody cooks, hell most can't cook at all. Give a fool a box of Kraft mac and cheese along with the ingredients and they'll just look at you stupid like. (even though the box tells you exactly what to do).

>>13989726
seethe :^)

>>13986403
>>13986419
Legitimacy is decided by success.
Both you and Israel supporters are wrong.

The only way to assess whether it has a right to exist is to remove all aid and see if they make it on their own.

If so they get to keep whatever they can hold by right of conquest. If not... well. That would settle that.

>>13989756
They just don't want to admit that their heathen religions aren't real, if their gods wanted Israel to die they would have stepped it up by now.

>>13988753
>Except it really stemmed from Clinton-era polices (subprime lending) which were not altered by Bush Jr. Obama bailing out the auto industry was pretty clutch, though Obamacare's implementation was pretty much a complete disaster.
TBF Glass-Steagal & Co were pretty hollow by the time Clinton killed 'em and put JUST HAND OUT MONEY LOL policies in place.

Holy fuck I hate the property markets so much. It's one of the worst monstrosities humanity has ever given birth to.

>>13986439
>buy high, sell low
Never change.

>>13989704
nah
I mean I like your free thinking, but let me bounce one off of you:

Just because current trannies skew towards higher intelligence doesn't mean that all intelligent people are susceptible to it, or that those with higher intelligence (on the upper end of the spectrum) are most susceptible to it.

There are plenty of intelligent people who consume just as much media who aren't trans. So I think you're stretching too much, it's some form of a selection fallacy but I forget the exact name of this form.

The highest CEO-kings will still at least appear more neuro-typical and 'normal' and 'adjusted', despite their behind-closed-doors behaviors (some psychos, of course).

I think the tranny fad still hasn't topped out yet but it's only got (at most) 5-10 more years of run up before the tranny bubble pops.
We'll see what new brands of body-modification and gene-mods are available then, but basically transgenderism as it exists now is already on the clock.
Once science really opens up body modification tier-II and tier-III, they will be doing different stuff.

but the upper-upper class will still be outwardly 'normal' in appearance.

>>13986576
LUL who are you?
I never thought about this aspect of the internet.
Guess it serves you right, for being a fgt online.

>>13989704
>it's a preemptive survival strategy and adaptation to the coming age of technocapital
also this part doesn't really make sense
as you said the suicide rate is so much higher, and trannies don't tend to pass on their genes, which is what a 'survival strategy' means. So being a tranny is very much anti-survival, it's an adaptation into corruption and death.
Suicide self-selection doesn't work when the surviving trannies DON"T BREED, they just die

you aren't a tranny hapa by chance? (just making sure :^) )

>>13989742
I believe this has always been the case, it's just the mediums for consumption have changed. You still have people that cook, make things, invent things, know hard maths, all that. The people that went home and read the paper, had a smoke, and watched TV in the 50s are the same folks doing it now, just with Facebook and shit.

>>13989756
they have nukes you dummy tard -_-;

Is it just me or is this ugly as fuck

>>13989928
Exactly.
>>13989815
Pfff- I don't think gods have much of an opinion on that sort of thing. Or at least not enough for direct intervention.
>>13989851
>>13989704
>>13989546
>>13989389
>>13989210
>>13989115
This conversation went full Whack.
(continue)

>>13989742
This is not necessarily true. Browsing those websites will expose you to what every one else is doing whether it's outdoor hikes, parties, expensive dinners, high artistic skill, personal relationships, critical acclaim, market opportunities among other things.

It makes you feel like you have to "catch-up" to the success of others due to envy or vanity. It's true that there's a lot of useless time wasting shit on social media but I reckon you have to keep finding more of it to keep yourself occupied. For most people it gets tiring real quick.

>>13989945
reminds me of video game vehicles
Crackdown comes to mind, the vehicles in that game would transform as your driver level increased. That would be a level 0 model.

I don't love it, but I could live with it in black or grey if the performance is right.

Can't feel plasticky, which has been their issue with the cars, so I don't know if they're going to be able to pull off a truck...

>>13989945
Design inspired by fictional events of HALO I

>>13989851
>>13989907
you're probably p right, but I dunno dude. Just look at the percentage of trannies in tech, specifically coding. Also peep interracial dating statistics, white male asian female is absolutely the dominant pairing among very high IQ coastal tech soon-to-be-elites. Finance seems dominated by white and asian men at the moment, that'll be make or break for my theory. The whole passing on the genes thing will be worked around, artificial wombs and the LGBT predisposition for child molestation will be interesting factors. And I'm a cisgender white male kek

>>13989851
>The highest CEO-kings will still at least appear more neuro-typical
This excludes androids, ofc

> The bond market

Should I buy a The Fly™/ Barrons subscription? Anyone here actually net gainz off them or are they just op-ex pieces?

Rate my portfolio, homos

>>13990034
betting on over-leveraged white bitches and tech. LMAOOO

>>13990017
FinViz/TradingView subscription, DYOR, plus a few books is probably a better bet imo

>>13989945
>tows 300,000 pounds
>300,000
how the fuck? The ford f-350 tows 7000? How the actual fuck? Also it's hideous, looks like something from a 90s kids meal

>>13990034
What the hell

>>13990070
That was our exact strategy. Were also short gays

>>13990091
what's wrong?

>>13989987
I like that you're coming up with interesting theories, but I hope you don't mind me playing devils advocate:
sure there are plenty of trannies in tech, but they aren't the leaders now and don't look to be the leaders. These people are hanging on for dear life, to try and stay around in public life going through all the hormonal and physical things they have to go through. The future won't change that. Non-trannies will have more time, clearer minds, etc. etc.
And they won't be dumber, there will always be more highly intelligent non-trans than trans.
I don't think hapas have any advantage over all-white or all-asians, I don't see them being exclusive leaders of anything (unless they are majority of future population, in which case sure, they can be the majority of leaders).
I don't think the 'trannies not having kids thing' will be solved any time soon (meaning, no evolutionary changes for a long time, genetic modif will be happening before that)


>>13990008
nice
but if I theorize about the future, we were discussing the future owners of the tech megacorps.
we probably won't see any small self-started stuff anymore that doesn't get bought out or merged in some way.
So some little nerd like Zuccy becoming the head of a future Facebook or Amazon seems slim; they leaders of the future megacorps will probably be genetically modified or at least analyzed for genetic strength, then trained and raised to rule. The nerds will 'stay in their lane' as it were.

>>13986515
Moar

>>13990091
it's okay it's the investopedia simulator

>>13990034
Against Warren
good luck

>crypto drops like a rock while I’m in my exam
>buy limits all trigger, now in crypto for 2.5 g’s, down about fiddy bucks

B-buy those d-dips, right guys?

Please tell me tomorrow will be a normal day for the market. I was too dumb to drop my bags. Now they’re even heavier.

>>13990133
I'd love to get augmented at some point in my life but I'll probably die before the tech is affordable. That, or humanity will find some way to destroy itself before we get there.

>>13990175
>

>SPXS ends the day neutral

I know it’s supposed to be a “daily,” but is it really that different from sqqq? What in the heccies?

>>13990175

>>13990175
well its good that you're a uni student, if you still hold everything you'll probably lose 50% but you'll make it back in 10 years when the market recovers

the bad part is that no one will be hiring when you graduate in a recession so you'll be fucked

>>13990301
Medical field (not doctor or nurse) so I think there will still be demand (boomers) but I’m too socially inept to make the necessary connections.

>down 50%
So you’ve already liquidated and shorted if you think we’re headed that low?

>>13990175
Yeah I had buy orders at 7765.. put it up pretty recently so I got kind of shocked, might set a sell in profit already and let it run though. There's some shit talk going around that BTC might go back down to the 6k range and if it doesn't hold 8.2k then I don't see why it wouldn't in the short term.

>>13990087
300,000 isnt even road legal and semi trucks dont even haul that much

LGCY to $7

If you dont buy in you'll be poor forever

Jim sounds like he’s going full bear. I think I’m gonna cash in my bags guys but we feel oversold, no?

>>13990354
Nice. Called the bottom. Damn.

I know /smg/ hates giving out advice but maybe someone on here may give me something. I need to recover. What do you guys think will moon or dump this week? Open to buying options or stock with what I have left.
>Inb4 stop trading
My goal is just to recover. Help me pl0x

>>13990423
Pulling a 5 bagger to recover is near impossible. What you need is time and contributions from a mcjob. Play safe easy shit (COVERED CALLS) and contribute from a part time job every paycheck. You'll be positive before you even know it.

>>13990423
What I own in physical stock. The rest is in a NFLX call.

>>13990423
>just to recover
This is when you know to stop trading

>>13990423
first you gotta tell the story of what you did to lose most of your portf.
was it options? was it crypto?

>>13990466
Options

>>13990423
Put it all on OTM TLT puts tomorrow and thank me on Friday.

>>13988177
>>13988158
You guys should really stop counting your eggs, it's a bad habit.

>>13990482
cmon what was it
what options did you buy when
what big dreams of price movement did you imagine?
did you buy those options because reddit told you? /smg/? or did you make the big brain plays all on your own?

I'll find you a tasty 2week money play if you tell the full story

you gotta face yourself if you want to grow.
type it all out, speak out the truth

>>13990423
Nigger just forget about those stocks and get a job and forget about the market (don't sell). It's gonna crash anyways and then consider buying at extremely cheap prices.

>>13990460
Well obviously I want to profit and prosper. But I want to take it in small steps so I don't set a goal that is too high and unachievable therefore making me lose motivation. Small steps.

>>13990497
jesus fuck bagsy we aren't trying to grill him here.

>>13990482
Look you have a low account, you can recover by contributing regularly and playing safe plays. If you really wanna take some risk into that last $200 though, what you could do is write a credit bull spread on spy for 1 month out. Write 1 of these spreads every monday. On the 2nd week of the spread's life, buy it back no matter what. So you'll have like, a bunch of spreads revolving around at the same time. You'll either lose the $200 slowly over time, or gain it all back fairly quickly than anything else you can do besides high-gamble weeklies.

>>13990509
Believe it or not /smg/ is the only board/forum where I profited listening to advice. The subreddit is where you go to burn your money. I speak from experience. And they're not as willing to help.

>>13990423
it over for you guy ;_;
rip
try again next year

>>13990513
You call 5x not too high a goal? Stop browsing outer/biz/

>>13990536
I was up 5x once upon a time with DIS. But we don't speak about that...

hope you guys managed to pick up some bowling balls today

>>13990527
Its literally the trade of the week. Just trying to throw the guy an easy 5 bagger to get him unjusted.

>>13990533
listen the 1100 dollars you lost doesn't matter
you think that money is the biggest thing that can be taken from you
but then you came into this thread tonight to throw away the chance to learn from your mistake.

You think you can just come in here and listen to these kids meme picks and make money like that?
In the long run you need to understand what you're doing and be the captain of your own ship.

i could tell you what you did wrong. some of our posters here could even tell you what you did wrong.
but that's just more spoonfeeding. You have to identify what mistake you made clearly. then we can get your money back together :^)

>>13989977
>>13989982
>>13990087
Fuck I'm going to get one, give it a warthog wrap, and tow a tank on the freeway.

WTF @ Apple selling a monitor stand for $999 and a computer that looks like a cheese grater

Steve Jobs is rolling in his grave

Lolllllll

>>13990708
Steve jobs is a retard for giving up control in the first place.

>bags too low to sell
>I know they’re going lower
This... real hard
Bad feel and real conundrum

>>13990708
Gotta pay for those lawyers somehow.
And I like cheese

>>13990578
Literlely about to remark on the bowl action today. Bet that was all smg.

>>13985464
Have you considered SKX (Skechers) for your clothing index? It came up in a screen I ran, but I would feel more comfortable buying if I knew more about fashion.

AMRN to the rescue! Profit aplenty, make back every dime I got in plus a bit more.

>>13990815
Skechers is for all the cool teen girls. Don't ask how I know.

We'll open red tomorrow. Chinks are ready to hit hard.

>>13990841
NO
WE NEED GREEN
I NEED TO EXIT POSITIONS AND GET AN ENTRY INTO SHORTS.

>>13990892
When chinks hit. Its gonna be hard. We'll see SPY dip into 260s

>>13990892
far too late. far far far too late

>>13990919
Indices are basically flat so far. Red by tenths of percents. Dow Futures -11

>>13990924
SPY won't see 280 for a while again

>>13990924
O no whaddo I do?!
S&P oscillator says we’re oversold...

But I think trump is about to let the other shoe drop for Applel.

We don’t have to wait for a China boycott if trump slams it first.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1135603282104213504
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1135603282104213504

We're going in boys

watch crude prices ;^)
nice tropical summer vacation for some of our navy servicemen and servicewomen

>>13990962
this market is absolutely fucking crazy, and i'm not talking about just cloud stocks that are trading at their expected earnings in 30 years

i'm talking about normal companies, like KHC, PG, and MMM that have abnormally bloated P/E ratios because people have been buying them up for their dividend, while their growth far lags behind their valuation

look at fucking Lamb Weston - they literally make frozen potatoes yet they are trading at the same P/E ratio as GOOGLE.

anyways, the same thing happened 40 years ago and its happening again now:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nifty_Fifty

Spy is green after hours? What the eff does it mean?

Did I do the big dumb by buying spxs instead of spxu?

T babies ftw!. He has withstood the Govt hacks twice now and just kept rolling on. The first time was in court where he told the lawyers to suck it ! The 2nd time was today when Trump tweeted how he hated CNN and wanted a boycott of T. Our hero's answer? The stock went up! Told Trump to suck it!. Buy Him now and you'll be fine. Not even the Govt hacks can stop Him now. The Debt is getting paid down at a fast pace, there's a Fat Divvy and a nice payday waiting for those with stomach to wait.

>>13991045
its because the fed is speaking tomorrow and the market is pricing in a rate cut
expect blood red if the cut doesn't happen

>>13991023
>For the lens, see Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II.

wow fuck whatever wikipedia editor has the GALL to pretend that only a certain small cheap 50mm lens is 'the' Nifty Fifty (I mean ofc I have that lens but still)

I feel like I'm the only one here who lost money on LW.
It wasn't even that much money, and I'm still holding because why not, but I feel like I'm the only one here who owns any

>>13991066
I don’t expect a cut, but we could get language that paves the road for a cut. Same thing?

Nice dubs.

I thought fed meeting was Wednesday?

>>13991077
https://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/calendar.htm
he will be talking about monetary policy at 9:55 tomorrow

What's the difference between buying puts on TQQQ and buying SQQQ?

>>13991092
Fuck it, I’m going full SQQQ

If they want to remain data dependent, they can’t really let this “short term price action” trigger a rate cut. Maybe the deepening inversion, but not the stock market.

Can they?

>>13991119
if there is no cut, we're fucked
if there is a cut, it means the market is extremely weak, so we'll continue selling off

we can't win

>>13991119
It's their job to ALWAYS SAY that they're being 'data dependent'
they're never going to tell you that they're running on emotion.

but then they also get to chose what data they look at and how.

so at the end of the day, they're going to do what they're going to do, and they'll bring data to back up that decision. Then they can pretend to be super math-smart big professional boys. But the 'data' is whatever they want it to be, that is how ECONOMICS HAS ALWAYS AND WILL ALWAYS WORK

>>13991134
Which is why the market will bounce after the Fed.
I’m setting SQQQ and SDOW limit buys for premarket. Hopefully we’ll green into the Fed meeting, so we can bleed out afterwards.

The only problem is these goddamn bags...

>>13990841
what make you think they nottant been hitting us since october -_-;

>>13991119
The downward direction is so strong. I feel comfy hanging on to SQQQ for a little bit longer. Holding since $41.12. Sort of wish I sold over $48 today, was a click away, but something tells me this will fly past $50. I've been on the other side of this with things like oil and gold where everyday it's, "surely today is the bottom" but it rips day after day after day. SQQQ has massive momentum and I don't see it stopping soon.

>>13991148
Okay but please do not yell at me. Can’t you see I’m in pain?

>mfw I been meaning to buy tesla for weeks
>mfw I keep putting it off
>mfw it drops lower every single day

>>13991182
you'll be fine, I'm just adding emphasis so that you understand that 'data dependence' is meme, it's a buzzword.

not just with the fed: in all realms. data is what you make it. control the information, don't let others control your information.

if you go hard short, don't do it because you don't understand the fact that the fed says 'data dependent' with a small wink and nudge. Not a huge wink and nudge, understand, they still have some bounds on possible behaviors, but they aren't robotic.

I hope I explain it in a way that can be understood clearly..

>>13991162
>The downward direction is so strong
:^)

>>13990635
Fucking cringe grandpa

>>13991222
but that's good for you

>>13991222
Embrace the end

>>13991222
That means you haven't been losing your ass, good job

>>13991289
whoosh

>>13991307
Is the joak that he's such a brainlet he doesn't understand how the market works? I don undertstant

When are you going to capitalize your sqqq gains? i'm planning on bailing at 60

>>13991322
there unironically no hope fo u

>>13991349
o no

>galt bagholders

>>13991154
>>13991162

Bought my first round of SQQQ today, been waiting to short the market for months, it feels right now, bought about $ 500 worth, might buy 500 more if we can get a real bloodbath going in the markets this week.

>>13991403
>this whole post

perfectly written
I love it

>>13991390
Bags worth holding, breh. Did you see the insider buys today?

>>13990745
volume 20
This is the Core of the market buy. Ill be putting up a large wall tommrow so its impossible to crash this year

oh me god
just realized
we hitting 2800 to marrow

>>13991369
rip you
better luck next time

>>13986791
Including mortgage?

>>13991422

I keep trying to think of reasons why the stock market would shoot up and past DOW 27,000, but i see no catalysts at all right now, i think the summer will be a total market pullback, then the FED will cut rates.

>>13991431
isnt there fairly steep annual fees to stay listed on the NYSE? how the fuck do they stay listed and pay the fees?

>>13991515
https://www.nyse.com/publicdocs/nyse/markets/nyse-arca/NYSE_Arca_Listing_Fee_Schedule.pdf

It costs like nothing unless you have a billion shares outstanding

>>13991511
hey I wish you the best my friend
:^)

>>13991515
nothing is too expensive when the margins are fat

>>13987091

your truck debt is absolutely moronic.

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1135743284385603584

>let's make then angrier lol

Bets on the next GALT coping mechanism?

>Th-the science is good.
>Insiders are buying!
>It's a long term hold...
>You know nothing about biopharma!
>Well I only have a grand in the stock so it's not like I'm worried about it or anything.
>There is no other drug that can do what galt does!
>It's really oversold and the TA charts indicate it'll pump up and meet a nice support level any day now!
>Y-you're just mad you don't have any Galt and are gonna miss out on these gains.

>>13991916
this is good actually, i was wondering why the usa isnt rubbing tiananmen square in their face as leverage in the trade dispute

>>13991916
i think what people don't realize is that china doesn't give a shit about destroying its own economy as long as it can bring down the US economy as well, and they can do this extremely easily by dumping US treasuries

>>13991265
You think tomorrow is relief rally?

I think still more panic to be had. But will set stoplosses after fed meeting... probably.

>>13991916
REEEE
Why didn't I just buy the pop in all the inverses this morning, instead of thinking it would die down...

Buying pre/postmarket has fucked me a lot... I think more bad than good.

>>13991472
N-no. You think so? Why?

>>13991390
This post... makes me want to hold off on shorting, makes me think we are indeed ready for the relief rally

>>13992008
wrong post,
>>13991403
THIS post, makes me want to hold off shorting

>>13991935
>Getting only 8x the stock price for that buyout is a tad disappointing, I wanted 10x

>>13992067
I will suck your cum bitch

>>13992075
Are you hawt chick? Love me long time?

Is anybody worried that the state of the world will eventually make buy index funds and hold forever strategies not viable?

>>13992067
>rawrposter still hasn't learned his lesson from L*I

>>13992201
Yeah man
I think nuclear war is a bigger concern though

>>13991431
w-why would it crash?
You guys said the fundamentals were solid, and I did absolutely no DD

>>13986916
Let's see who's being smug when AOC wipes out the student debt.

>>13992237
since the orders are so thin, the Bowl robot reacts violently to someone even removing a limit order.
cant let that happen, Marketbuy into Bowl America today

>>13992201
Unironically yes.

Declining return on energy investment and troglodyte-tier democracy decision making means we could be back to a medieval tech level in 200 years.

>>13989945

Disgusting. It has that sort of long cab short bed thing Chevy tried with the Avalanche.

>>13990423

>>13990578
>Wake up and cheerfully put in my limit order for $14.25 with a big grin on my face
>Open up Robinhood after market open
>Price jumps to $14.90 right out of the gate

Which one of you bought those 8 shares?

>>13992397
Oooooohhhh... So this "wall"
You set up a bunch of limit orders, then take them down one after another, making it look like the buy volume and price are dropping dramatically?

Then for some reason the algo (bowl robot?) starts dumping shares? Algos panic sell and are manipulated that easily?

>>13992517
This thread may unironically be the largest buyer of bowling balls this year if we all pile on

>>13990423
Put it all in VTI and wait 20 years
wa la, you should have recouped by that point

>>13992517
I saw it too. I still haven't bought because I'm locked up in AMD again at 600 shares. I promise I'll pick up spares next time.

>>13992588
>wa la
you fucking scumbag

>VTI, right now, while the markets poised for a hard correction

>>13992619
Sounds like you got a lot to learn about boomer investing, zoomer

>>13992619
>time in the market not timing the market

Heh

>>13992619
market
in
market
not
the
timing
the
time

>>13992691
i buy $1000 a month worth of VTSAX

let other people fail, i succeed no matter what

>>13992657
>>13992678
>>13992691
>>13992705
>Sold 40% of my VTSMX so I can buy VTI when when everything's so wrecked Trump can't fuck it up anymore
Maybe I'll buy into VTSAX instead. I don't know, I think Schwab doesn't do transaction fees for these, but the whole restricted trading thing, where you gotta get an order in before 3 and wait til the next day, it'd a pain in the ass. But also, kind of a mixed blessing I guess.

I'm also 30, but have only been actively trading for less than a year. I've racked up some substantial losses...

And some big bags that don't become losses if I don't sell. R-right?
;_;

>>13990835
You're not a cool teen girl, are you?

I'm also considering looking at COLM. The brand seemed to be quite popular back in the day when I was in college (5 years or so back). I'm pretty isolated from fashion trends now.

>>13992774
I'm pretty sure VTSAX is not one of the commission-free funds on Charles Schwab. I'm going off memory, as was looking at it a while back. Unless you're dead-set on buying a total-market index fund, you probably want to go with SWPPX. If you really want VTSAX, you might just want to open a Vanguard account for it.

>Be financially literate teen
>Invest in ETFs, a couple tech stocks, the healthcare industry
>Let compounding do the rest
>End up rich boomer
It all seems to be so dull lads. Sure it works but penny stocks and crypto make things seem interesting

>>13992905
Thats you why you only put 80% in the boomer tier shit. Put 20% in more interesting stuff.

>>13992844 (dubs!)
The fact that you call him by his full name, makes me think you're not that close with Chuck, and maybe not that knowledgable...

You might be right though. When I sold VTSMX, I believe didn't show any transaction fees. I wish their were more options like that, but for the big "set it and forget it" investments, it doesn't matter too much.

If there were funds I could trade like ETFs though... god, are there inverse mutual funds? I could be into that right now... but no, it's too risky in a world where trump can end the trade war with a tweet.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-03/ctas-are-now-shorting-russell-and-its-only-matter-time-they-turn-short-sp-500

Is it safe to go short yet?
It feels like I missed the boat on shorts, bonds, golds, and yens.

>>13993077
Mr. Schwab and I do business together, but we prefer to keep it professional.

I logged in and started an order for $3,000 of VTSAX and it listed a $49.95 transaction fee.

>>13993637
What?! That’s not small, I thought it’d be a 4.95 “who cares” fee.

Guess I’m going VTI in the future. Sad. Really enjoyed stacking it up.

>Rydex Inverse S&;P 500 2X Inverse Strategy A Fund (RYTMX)

Holy crap! Bearfunds are a thing!
Might actually be a buy depending on how the FOMC goes.

I just don’t like the lack of mobility though.

>>13989756
Thats not going to happen. We are the big swinging dick of the world and they play an important role for us in the middle East, therefore we will support them indefinitely.

So how do you decide now if they have a right to exist

GALT

>>13993792
Would be nice to see it skyrocket on the insider buys alone.

How to pick out stocks that i can just forget about for a few years?
inb4 funds. that's cuck shit

How can I find the funds that will preform best over the next few years?
inb4 picking individual stocks and following the daily, weekly, monthly action. that's cuck shit

How can I find the call leaps to decay my capital to zero over the next few years? inb4 negative yielding japanese bonds, that's some weeb shit.

>>13990413

why $7?

give me all of your meme penny stocks now i have some extra to throw around.

>>13994328
LPTX

>>13986384
any asx chads here that can shill me a stock? considering picking up some cgc in the near future but apart from that idk

futures green
thank you drumpf

>>13994700
SUPER green, what the heck?
Oh god I'm about to lose so much monies!

>>13994956
>>13994956
>>13994956

NEW

>>13994956
>>13994956
>>13994956