/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>13738041
It’s the way of the road wagie

>>13738041
>10 minute walk
you're telling me they don't have some kind of big brain transportation meme in those big ass warehouses to get people to the toilets?

>>13738090
Porta potty... on wheels!

WAAAAAAGIES

Capitalism is great if you're the capitalist. Moral of the story? Become a capitalist.
Besides working conditions in communism were never any better.

>>13738131
But to become a capitalist you need capital. Most of these billionaires started off with daddy’s trust fund or inheritance

>>13738148
Intelligence is majority inherited so its hardly a surprise.

>>13738041
ROBOTS don't have this problem

>>13738148
Bezos is the definition of self-made.

>>13738041
Truckers been doin this for years, but because its Amazon everyone throws a hissy fit and goes full Bernie bro mode.

>>13738334
>white male
>self made

good joke /pol/tard

>>13738334
He started his business with a half-million loan from his parents ya putz lol

I'd rather go on welfare than work for Amazon. Same pay, except the government pays me for doing nothing.

>>13738357
you with you were White lmao

>>13738148
go back to le ddit commie

>>13738362
>>13738148
Look at this crybabies. You would not make 1/100 of Bezos even inheriting $10M

>>13738111

>>13738479
kek

why don't they have a trough, or udders, like Milk Cows?
>>13738479
ayy

*sssiiiiippp* Whaddya mean you don't wanna work for Uncle Bezos at the warehouse?

Listen son, your parents let you try to sort a job out for yourself but it hasn't worked out yet, now you're lucky we've got family connections to help you get a leg in to the industry.

It will only be a temp job for a few years and your Uncle has even promised you're gonna get one of the newer Wage Cages with built in porta-potty and water filter/recycler to keep you hydrated at work.

No, I don't wanna hear about your crypto coin bits, Son, it's time for you to start earning real money that you can actually hold in yer own two hands. Get off the computer, get dressed and get in the car.

>>13738479
Based

>>13738396
Bezos would not be rich if he was black. Someone would come in and exploit him. Same if he were hispanic or Jewish or Muslim.

>>13738551
>Jewish
You were doing so good. Gotta be more subtle than that.

>mfw warehouse worker for competitor
>make $20/h plus benefits, PTO
>compressed workweek, as much OT as I want
>job is easy as fuck

Amazon will crumble from within, those with sustainable strategies and good ethics will prosper in the end

>>13738429
That's not how it works

>>13738479
>>13738509
/biz/ I love you

>>13738567
You'd think so but it won't because they've already squeezed out competition.

GET IN YOUR WAGECAGE WOJACK

>>13738567
a company has to be attractive to its customers, not employees, in order to thrive. I'm pretty sure your employer can not offer products with the same prices Amazon can.

>>13738041
RACE. TO. THE. BOTTOM.

This has been known for many years. "Labor Costs" is just the term Capitalists use for workers' wages.

The entire Capitalist strategy: 1. Maximize profit 2. Minimize expenses.

Labor is the biggest expense.

THEREFORE UNDER GLOBAL CAPITALISM, LITERALLY EVERYONE IS BEING PITTED AGAINST EACH OTHER IN A RACE TO DE-VALUE THEM AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. HELLO? WAKE THE FUCK UP. GLOBAL SLAVERY UNDER DOLLARS AND JEW POLITICIANS.

REVOLT NOW.

unironically

>>13738716
It's a big thumb that doesn't stop pressing

>>13738479

>>13738148
As per the book "Capital in the 21st Century", the biggest study of millionaires in America, 80-86% are self-made millionaires. With first generation millionaires, adjusted for inflation, is highest now since it has been measured in the 1970s. It may be harder in nations with less economic freedoms, but if you're in a developed country you have no excuse.

What IS inherited is the mentality of the poor, especially the phrase "you need money to make money" which allows the proletariat class to cope. Look at lottery winners, they almost all go broke, many end up poorer than they started. However you can receive the teachings of wealthy parents and without a single inherited dime or contacts, should be able to make themselves to the capitalist class. You can invest with other people's money.

In the information age, there is no reason to not be a capitalist, being a poor wageslave is a matter of choice.

>>13738396
>you with you were White lmao

Do you have a lisp while typing or something? The fuck?

>>13738745
>"self made"
ahahahaha

>>13738745
It's nice to see that not everyone is clueless, useful idiots

>>13738754
Yeah, it's actually not very difficult to be honest, maybe a millionaire is hard, but being a capitalist? You just have to be frugal, not waste money on "looking rich" and smart enough to leverage other people's money to your advantage to own a corporation (and invest) and have wageslaves to pay for your tendies, and they deserve it, too for being such cuks.

>>13738875
to be fair million isnt that much these days. its basically "middle class"

>>13738479

>>13738888
Nice quads, not middle class unless you live in San Francisco or something. But a million dollars in assets (your domicile is not an asset, it's a liability)... is still rich AF here in Idaho.

Honestly, low iq wagies are just looking for any excuse to piss in bottles. I know from experience.

>>13738479

Honestly, I respect neets more than wagies, they pay all the taxes, get no benefits from the system, and sell their TIME their most valuable asset for a pittance. Rather than in bottles, I'd like to piss on a wageslavexs head in their wagecage robots unable to get out.

>>13738396
>you with you were white

Hey Mike Tyson

>>13738479
thank you anon for making us all laugh

>>13738041
my NEET bottle pissing skills will finally pay off

>>13738357
>bezos
>white
I guarantee you he doesn't consider himself white. He belongs to another tribe.

>>13738041
>not wearing a catheter and colostomy bag to be more efficient
i need to pitch this to amazon

>>13738479
I don't get it

>>13738479

Sole reason I still come this board

God bless you, anon

>>13740862
You need to go back.

>>13738716
if the population wasn't growing exponentially, we'd have fewer people to compete with
blame biology, nature, and spics/nignogs

>we don't need unions anymore

>>13738621
>>13738479
>>13738041

Jfc, the Amazon warehouse is there inspiration for the majority of biz memes. This shit is getting ridiculous.

>>13738943
>(your domicile is not an asset, it's a liability)
so many people and boomers fail to realize this

>>13740872
No I don't get why he's on top of a portapotty and not home being comfy

lol I work on the railroad and piss wherever I am all the time. Management has probably seen my cock hundreds of times on their super HD cameras. I'm sure they'd rather I piss wherever I am in the yard instead of walking sometimes up to a mile to a shitter.

>The Amazon Warehouse measures 700,000 sq ft and workers may face a ten minute, quarter-of-a-mile walk to two toilets on the ground floor.
>quarter-of-a-mile walk to two toilets on the ground floor.
>two toilets
>two
I hate companies that waste my hard earned shareholder money on luxuries for the poor.

>>13740970
He got a comfy job as a wage jockey so he could buy more linkies

>>13738090

from a business perspective, which makes more sense to you:

A. wasting millions of dollars on transport systems for your workers to use the bathroom

B. letting your workers piss in plastic bottles

>>13741529

C. Replace faulty, fleshy vessels with automated robots.

>>13741529
There are OSHA requirements about restroom facilities.

>>13741565
Robots are expensive and you need to pay high-salary techies to maintain them

>>13741529
Catheters and colostomy bags
they can change their shit and piss bags off company time

>>13741638
"A few weeks ago, Amazon said it will be at least 10 years before the company is running fully-automated warehouses. But partial automation is already underway. According to Reuters, Amazon is considering installing two machines at dozens of warehouses that have the potential to replace at least 24 jobs at each location. If Amazon were to roll the machines out across its 55 US fulfillment centers for standard-sized inventory, that could lead to more than 1,300 job cuts.

Sources told Reuters that Amazon is considering the CartonWrap machines from CMC Srl, which can build boxes around custom orders and add seals and labels. The machines can reportedly build 600 to 700 boxes per hour, which is four to five times faster than a human. And with the machines sold for $1 million, Amazon could recover its costs in under two years, Reuters' sources said."

So let's see- we have NEET anon who thinks automation is a meme that somehow results in an equal amount of displaced jobs, or at least similar total labor costs vs. a multi-billion dollar company who has actually done the math and knows that automation means more profit long term. Hmm, I wonder who I should believe.

>>13741638
As robotic technology marches on, they'll get cheaper and cheaper.

>>13738041
Imagine working for amazon in 2019 knowing how shitting it is.

Worse employer than Walmart desu.

>>13740835
Just because he calls himself Bezos doesn't mean he isn't Jeffrey Preston Jorgensen

>>13738041
I work at amazon, we had someone piss in one of the drawer bins on night shift and someone was masturbating in the aisle on that same shift. The time off task meme is true, we do get punished for being a minute or two late(literally). They made us lose time on our breaks as well by making us have two "thirty minute" breaks, when technically speaking we have to make our last scan just at break time. We drive on order pickers and spend nearly a third of that time driving and getting off or back on. They wrote someone up because they made their last scan at 1:13(break is at 1:15 and ends at 1:45), she made her first scan back from break at about 1:48. We used to have two 22 minute(the real break was technically 15 but the extra 7 minutes was for getting harnessed up and out into an aisle) scan to scan breaks with a 30 minute lunch with a five minute grace period before clock out. Just fuck my shit up.

Wagies wagies stuck in cagies
Neet is cool
Neet is comfy
Neet has sauce, tendies, and no school

>>13742057
This. Anybody who works for them honestly deserves it, it’s all over the news. Literally any other job is better, and it’s the same if not more

>>13742293
Good, fuck you. I need cheaper products. There needs to be ways we can bio-engineer more productive employees by mutating them into biological monstrosities that are extremely efficient at specific tasks or maybe lobotomizing them so they don't seek the urge to even have breaks?

There's so many ways we can abuse the wageslaves to their fullest. Maybe a few will go mad or die in the process, but there's a shitton of applications for these semi-humans piling up everywhere.

>>13738745
True, but what the rich inherite also is security and stable upbringings, which not only leads to better upbringing that influences their future decisions, but also affords them to spend their time thinking of bettering themselves rather than anxiety from their poor or dysfunctional family.

I grew up with a single mother and to make my money was a struggle against a destructive family who taught me nothing about investing and tried her damnedest to instill a loser's mentality in me. I've seen this shit everywhere. It's not the inherited money, tho that helps... It's 100% the upbringing and security of knowing you'll be OK if you fall on your face and not worry about family complaining and asking for money.

>>13738479
kek

>>13738041
the neets and the wagies have come full circle i see

>>13738041
>make employers cover healthcare, maternity leave, vacation, discrimination/sexual harassment lawsuits, minimum wage, and a trillion other burdens
>only the most absolutely ruthless and dehumanizing business models which treat employees like trash can thrive
>wow capitalism has failed

>>13740799
if the neetbux dries up im sure those piss bottle skills are something you can put on your amazon resume

>>13741185
Keked

>>13742828
This is true, but there are plenty of fucked up rich families, but the upbringing is sometimes a double-edged sword, the trustfund meme is sometimes true and their kids turn into manchildren/womanchildren and are fucked up for life. I'm not leaving a penny to my kids... just how I raise them. I'm donating all my money to nature charities.

>>13738041
while i am i capitalist im not the hard core slit their throat type capitalist, maybe why not a billionaire.
that said, capitalists are digging their graves with things like this, shit like this will result in the rise of communists

>>13738357

gys shloamo

>>13742057
>implying the average wagie's life has any value

There's a reason there's things such as minimum wage, the free market makes sure to treat plebs like plebs

>>13742935
The richest guy I know is a drunk, he's a lawyer, his wife's a nurse, they're fucking loaded but both of their kids are autistic (the best of them barely functional) because they had them in their 40s or some shit.

>>13743137
>lawyer
If doctors are kings of wageslaves, lawyers are princes of wageslaves.

>>13738041
it is pretty terrible that this is even a thing, unless it's fake news or over-exaggerated AS FUCKING USUAL.

>>13742416
Jesus mate, I didn't even say that it was entirely wrong. I get the whole master and slave morality thing, whining about more freedoms and liberties(unions and communism) doesn't help anything. It actually hurts everyday people like yourself from expanding because you have to comply with stupid regulations. The truth is, there will always be slaves and that's not a bad thing. I just need to get good.

>>13738041
shit and piss on the floor is nothing unusual for the pajeet in the pic

>>13743181
You seem levelheaded, if I knew you IRL I'd coach you. Actually, most rich people are willing to mentor you if you are ready to listen and ask nicely.

>>13742416
There needs to be ways we can bio-engineer more productive employees by mutating them into biological monstrosities that are extremely efficient at specific tasks or maybe lobotomizing them so they don't seek the urge to even have breaks?

this is part of the premise of brave new world, the gammas are engineered from birth to be the work force and given just enough iq to complete tasks

>>13740897
american union bosses usually collude with management to fuck over workers anyway. what we need is communism

Honest question...

Why do you people feel like you can't make it? (Assuming you're in a developed nation)

You literally have the sum of human knowledge at your fingertips.

Do you see yourself as uniquely retarded and unable to learn skills?

There's no reason anyone with an IQ over 100 should be making less than $100k per year if you have internet access.

>>13738716
In Minecraft

>>13738041
>Amazon
>Capitalism
Amazon is socialism. The government gave them lower shipping costs than anyone else to destroy all competition. Welcome to socialism, its government intervention, it always leads to total control of your life. In a capitalist world the legislature would be arrested for favoring this company.

>>13741048
This thread is bad for my sides.

>>13738090

Bycicle stations

>>13738041
I never have to piss at work
Never had to piss at school either
I dont piss when i should be working

>>13741529
Letting your workers use a transportable bathroom system

>>13738041
those slaves better get to work. my package is due tomorrow and it better arrive on time or i'll call and complain.

>>13743975
That's right. Gotta make sure Mr. Shekelstein's getting his money's worth.

>>13744010
Its not even like i have the feeling to piss and just dont i literally just never have to

>>13743938
>The government gave them lower shipping costs than anyone else to destroy all competition.
source?

>>13744029
Drink more water. I 100% guarantee you are chronically dehydrated. You will feel much better all around if you start drinking more.

>>13738479
goddammit /biz/

>>13743938
Not to mention it allowed them to play by a different set of rules than their competition for 20 years, besides (sales tax)

>>13738041
>quarter mile
>10 minute walk
>40 minutes to walk a mile

Maybe they shouldn't hire fat fucks and those that run on CP time... I used to walk a 16 minute mile because I spent the track time flirting with bitches instead of running, and I'm not exactly the pinnacle of fitness.

>>13738357
AI social media review for anti-white sentiment and summary execution by automated terminator squads when? Honestly, mass murdering every single genocidal shitskin jew puppet is going to be an enormous chore in Minecraft.

>>13744029
have fun getting your kidneys replaced for 200k each when you're older

the right wing have deeply internalised cowardice which is why they're all about drone bombing strangers on the other side of the world but go and hide in their holes whenever you mention the corporate oligarchs who are literally grinding them into the ground every day.
"i have guns in case muh government becomes oppressive" *government becomes oppressive corporate oligarchy* "fuck niggers, praise trump, praise cops, praise feds, praise capitalism, please don't hurt me boss"

>>13738479
kek

>>13738716
You first.

>>13738041
No one is forcing you to work for amazon, brainlet. Work for someone else or for yourself.

>>13744175
>work for yourself anon!
>there's so many choices, you can be an uber driver, deliver food for doordash, or an amazon package deliverer

this is what "working for yourself" means now, being even lower than a wagie

>>13743825
They're too lazy and have learned helplessness.

>>13743938
That's literally capitalism, the government gives all sorts of incentives to those capitalists that increase GDP. The bigger the fish you are, the more Uncle Sam needs to keep you fat and happy. Don't hate, play the game.

It's much better on this side, trust me.


>>13744175
Don't work for someone else (like an employeecukc) and DEFINITELY don't be self-employed (it's a necessity at first, though... but get employeecucks as soon as you can) all you're doing is paying CRIPPLING tax. Own a corporation and/or be an investor.

>>13738479

Fucking love these dystopic wage slaving memes. Thank you /biz/.

>>13738716
Nobody cares. Americans are the most unintelligent and sociopathic people on the planet probably because of their mutt breeding and would kill each other for a big Mac. You're preaching to the wrong crowd.

>>13738577
Yes, that's exactly how it works you commie filth

>>13738479

>>13738745
Well, you just explained why not everyone can make it. My parents are well-educated but not super wealthy. They helped me with my home worker, showed me what hard work can lead to, got me into a solid school, had debates with me at the dinner table, made me feel safe, always tried to guide me onto the right path etc. As much as I like to think that I only have myself to thank for being wealthy, the reality is that all the things my parents gave me has given me a huge advantage in life.

>>13744240
So amazon is giving you a good deal?! What are you complaining about?

You probably have zero imagination.

>>13742935
May as well just give all of it directly to Israel you dumb goy.

>>13738716
More companies = higher salaries. If you reduce the number of companies through law salaries go down. If you try to fix salary by law unemployment increases. If you reduce to economy to one company (the state), misery follows.

>>13744333
Fuck Israel, faggot. I'd give them all my money as bombs to wipe them out.

>>13744276
>>13742416
I hope you die the most horrific death imaginable you insufferable boomer faggot

>>13738479
saved

>>13744368
You're already doing them a favor by leaving nothing to your bloodline and giving all your goy bucks to (((nature charities)))

>>13744369
Only low IQ tranny lovers like you will die poor and alone. May you live a long painful existence and die alone.

>>13738041
Should just buy smartlands and earn their wage with ABTs

>>13744450
Wow an imaginary box that prints money? How do i get one?

>>13744369
Why? Not a boomer. I'd love to help people escape the misery of being an employee, but the learned helplessness makes people lash out in impotent anger instead of becoming a capitalist. You can pirate business books and invest with other people's money. If you're a poor employee, it's because you choose to remain bluepilled.

If you're in a developed nation, especially America, you make the decision every single day you wake up to stay poor. And even when confronted with the choice to become a capitalist, you'd rather throw a temper tantrum than improve?

>>13744369
SHUT UP FAGGOT THIS IS AMERICA WHERE CASH IS KING AND YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO WALK THROUGH THAT FRONT DOOR

>>13743825
The problem is that a lot of lower class people never were taught how make it in life. They grow up with most of the people around them being minimum wagies/ unemployed, parents don't help them with their homework, parents never explained why getting good grades and going to college is smart, there's a lot of people doing crime and drugs around them, they go to a shitty schools where all the other kids weren't taught the value of hard work/education either etc.

Even if they realize what the "right" thing to do is by the time they're 15-18 it can be hard to break the cycle and do the exact opposite of what most people around them are doing.

>>13744398
I'd be giving them financial knowhow, my parents gave me their bills and no knowhow. My kids would have a tremendous advantage over me. And I'd be giving to nature because trees and animals never asked to be victims unlike proletariat cowards.

>>13738745
When were all the self made millionaires born? Most seem to have lived through economic booms. The only one Millenials could have participated in was the short one due to Trump and Bitcoin. In contrast, those generations had quite a few booms, including the biggest one which was the dotcom boom. Nothing like that has come back yet. Millenials have yet to have their own dotcom boom.

In the future, wagies are called drones, and they don't have any rights because they are born from artificial wombs and nerve stapled at age 5.

>>13744540
Why not just use robots, Mr. Huxley?

>>13744466
You cannot succeed in this economy unless you are psychopath. It's literally impossible.
I'm sure you are one, and good for you if so, but it's not for me. Everyone I've ever met who has made a considerable about of money did it at the expense of others and were eventually brought down by their own arrogance. The only thing left was festering, impotent rage.
No one is safe in this economy unless they come from Old Money. Our economy is entirely debt-based and it will all come crashing down when the dollar is no longer the world's reserve currency. Also, there are no safeguards for disabled people like myself; society despises me. I also don't care about roasties, fancy cars or big houses. The only way to win is not to play.
I wish you continued success but just know that you will never get the chance to exploit me like you do with your other wagies

>>13744512
You continue to show your learned helplessness. Never have things been easier to transition to the capitalist class than in the recent information age. You don't have to gamble to get a jackpot... you have to build economic systems until you own a corporation, and become an investor... be smart and end up paying little to no tax. Let the wageslaves pay for the NEETs' tendies.

>>13744565
I'm just glad you're not a wagie, that's the miserable squeezed class in the US and the developed world. If you guys learn one thing in this thread...

>DO NOT BE AN EMPLOYEE OR SELF-EMPLOYED... LEAVE THAT WRETCHED EXISTENCE AS SOON AS YOU CAN. SOME PEOPLE WILL DO IT FASTER THAN OTHERS BUT ESCAPE IS POSSIBLE FOR US ALL

Let's just make sure not everybody outside of this Indonesian noodle crafting forum gets that message.

>>13744577
Learned helplessness? Why do people assume I'm helpless because I simply don't agree with your opinion? I've made several hundreds of thousands from bitcoin alone, not counting ethereum or other coins I've invested in. I still live with a sense of realism, and I won't ignore that the economy is a bit harsh on young people today compare to the past. Look at the trends.

>>13744641
How on earth do you expect people to succeed at being an entrepreneur if they don't have access to a significant amount of working capital in the first place?

>>13744821
By being a mentally deranged lolberg shitposter.
Remember these dipshits glorify a generation of lazy communists as "good entrepreneurs".

>>13744679
>made money on cryptos

Good, cash out a portion and become a capitalist.

>it's harsh on young people
False, it's harsh if you follow the moronic advice of boomers. "Go to college, get a good job, don't have debts, pay your taxes, your money in your 401k, your house is an asset, keep up with the Jones" that's all the opposite of what you should do.

It has never in history been easier to be a capitalist.

>>13738059
Friends of the road bubs.

>>13744821
OTHER. PEOPLE'S. MONEY.

>>13744900
Is this another way of saying "steal?"

>>13744874
I'm already a capitalist, that's how I made money in the first place. Do you think people investing in things that you agree with makes them a capitalist in your eyes?

>>13744512

Absolutely not true.

I was doing internet marketing in 2007 when you could throw up a website and make 3k/mo within 30 days.

What were you doing?

>>13738479
Ultrakek. What mind enhancing substances do you take in order to create this?

>>13744944
No, Google the phrase OPM (Other People's Money) you just use investor money. You can literally start without any cash (although it's always a good idea, cash is king). It would take too long to explain here, but there's tonnes of books (that you can pirate) that goes in depth about how you do it. Anybody can do it.

But you need to start with the phrase "I refuse to continue being an employee." Repeat that shit over and over and over and over these next couple of days, the propaganda in your brain is powerful... because we need wagies to be our underclass. But there are no barriers to the capitalist club.

>>13745158
Ok I'll bite. Which books ?

>>13744970
You are a capitalist, maybe I expressed myself poorly. It would be wise to do other forms of investing and owning corporations orv real estate that allow passive income into your bank account, assets that are declarable to a bank for loans and the ability to create tax shells so you don't have to pay those pesky capital gains taxes. Cryptos are a quick form of getting cold hard cash, but the system has been adapted by wealthy (yet) to give you capitalist power like other forms of income.

>>13744276
>thats capitalism
Under free markets or capitalism in the purest since all companies would get this same benefit as the government would have very little regulation.

This is just the government picking and choosing and being corrupt as per usual lol.

>>13745223
Probably a bad idea to go straight into that without a base of financial knowledge. It simply wouldn't make any sense. These books are a good place to start:

https://youtu.be/_NAgAUpN0pQ

>>13745001
Most millennials where to young back then. Those who build online marketing websites in 2007 are literally 35-40 year old boomers today.

>>13745319
Who cares about le lolberg pure free markets? Fuck that.

>>13744118
5 minutes to bathroom, 5 minutes yo walk back to worksite

>not wearing diapers
wtf

>>13738041
Please deposit your pissbottle at the front desk on your way out wagie, where it will be tested. Any prohibited substances found will result in immediate termination of employment.

>>13744276
I'm pretty sure making it illegal for poor people to invest in things is not capitalism

>>13745001
When you were playing outside

I studied the markets

While you failed school getting Cs and Ds I read books on finance

While you got drunk and had sex with girls at parties

I made thousands on stocks

And now that you're a wage slave and can barely get by you come to me for help?

>>13745339
Then don't be a tard and and say "this is capitalism." Call it what it is. Government corruption.

>>13738090
>implying they care
amazon is the new robber baron

>>13738041
>>13738148
>keynesian economics
>capitalism
keep up the push for collectivism, goy
maybe i—i mean, maybe we can seize those amazon warehouses and all their equipment for ourselves if ones with a real social conscience like you and bernie keep it up! i have it on good authority that bezos and a bunch of his creditors think they'll have it in with, uh, *us*! oy vey, i wonder how many screamers we'll have when we record their amputation and torture sessions! that twink from new zealand has a cute little shiksa that he's been taking a lot of time off work to groom into our upcoming trans youth "body positivity" film campaign, but i think we could find a few clients that take a lot of subsidy money who would love to see him watch her get the shit kicked out of her and then encased in a coffin with cement full of turds and spiders! GOOD GOY! KEEP ON FIGHTING LIBERTY!!! KEEP ON FIGHTING THE ONLY FUCKING THING THAT KEEPS ME FROM HAVING ACCESS TO THE COUNTRY'S MONEY WITHOUT HAVING TO EARN IT, AND THEN USING YOU AND YOUR FAMILY'S NEVERENDING STATE OF ECONOMIC DISADVANTAGE TO KEEP YOU WAGING AT MY FIRMS UNTIL DEATH!!!!!!!!! GOOD FUCKING GOY!!!!!!!!!! LET'S END SELFISH INDIVIDUALISM AND YOUR BLOODLINE TOGETHER!!!!!!!!!!! GO SOCIALISM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

gotta love the temporarily embarrassed millionaires ITT laughing at amazon workers

>>13744466
>If you're a poor employee, it's because you choose to remain bluepilled.
>choose to remain bluepilled
I bet you haven't worked a single hour in your life, or never had to live in a shitty neighborhood, or your family never had to suffer hunger and misery.
same as >>13744369 , I wish you a really painful dead.

>>13745393
It should be legal, I agree. However the reason the SEC restricts these investments is that people in the past thought they were gambling on something "sure" and would pour their life savings in to this shit. But I agree, if they invest and don't understand the market, fuck them.

>>13745611
>I bet you haven't worked a single hour in your life
Sure that's why I know being an employee sucks, I've done retail, worked at the airport, cashier.
>or never had to live in a shitty neighborhood
Yeah, raised poor. Being an employee sucks.
>or your family never had to suffer hunger and misery
Mom got very sick when I was young, she died later, my dad left me and I was raised by my aunt, an airline worker.

Poverty is a choice and you CHOOSE to be poor.

>>13743938
>subsidies automatically make it socialism
gosh, americans are so ignorant and retarded. go learn logic, then learn some history and politics, and THEN you'll be able to talk without shaming yourself

>>13738148
this

>>13738745
give us the definition and a list of self-made millionaires in america.

>>13745001
for that you need knowledge and education. who gave it to you? how much did you have to pay for that? what were your living conditions when you learned to do it? who supported your business, and who showed you that it was indeed a good business?
there are LOTS of factors at play, but of course you just assume everyone had the same conditions you had at the time.

>>13745323
I was making websites when I was 17 and I'm not that intelligent. Granted, HTML and CSS from back then was really easy and less complex. I didn't make any real money though, I just wasn't thinking of making tons of money at that age, I made websites for fun. desu unless you have really forward-thinking capitalist parents, you won't be thinking about that as a teenager. I didn't give a shit about money until I hit adulthood right at 18 and needed to survive. Humans don't really feel motivated until they see a need that should be fulfilled.

>>13738716
even well paid tech workers suffer from this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Tech_Employee_Antitrust_Litigation
of course people here will defend these companies...

>>13745827
This is the trickery of the commie. When you disagree with him he'll just pretend you're just some rich fag who has money lying around.

>>13740910
for the majority of people it's true, but it's not a golden rule
for some people, their domicile is crucial to their work (home office, potentially using the garage as a 'warehouse', or simply using land for farming)

>>13738888
What type of retard do you have to be to think that. 20k yearly is normal american. Youre a fool m8

>>13745827
>Sure that's why I know being an employee sucks, I've done retail, worked at the airport, cashier.
do those compare with the conditions workers have at amazon wareshouses?

>Yeah, raised poor. Being an employee sucks.
OK? I was raised poor, but at least I didn't live in a terribly shit place.

>Mom got very sick when I was young, she died later, my dad left me and I was raised by my aunt, an airline worker.
again, did you suffer from hunger and misery?

what do you do now? how much money have you made and saved? are you the imaginary capitalist you seem to idolize so much?

>>13745991
I'm a capitalist, I make passive income. I don't work, I have corporations, employees and investments/real estate. I could probably be a millionaire if I cared to but I live in the country and enjoy that. I'm happy.

I wish that lifestyle or more on everyone with learned helplessness in this thread. Instead of getting angry.

>>13738357
> fellow white male
> selfmade

>>13738041
Don't shit talk it. After only 600 hours they can afford to buy a wagie home from the company store.

>>13746048
and you didn't respond to any of my questions.
OK.

>I make passive income. I don't work, ... investments/real estate
btw, just to let you know: some people would consider you the scum and the worst kind of leech for that.

again, don't assume everyone has/had your conditions, your luck, your greed, etc.

>>13746128
I'm conflicted. On one hand I support anti-consumerist and minimalist sentiment, but on the other I know it serves the neoliberal agenda of decreasing living standard.

>>13746128
where do I do the poopie?

>>13743825
Europe
If you make more than 30k the whole village will burn you at stake.

>>13746239
>I support anti-consumerist and minimalist sentiment
Now you understand why it's a meme. Countdown until you're "just curious" and try out cricket flour or bug sausage.

>>13746261
Plumbing is not included in the 7k: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079HVSYFC/

>>13745991
So first you assumed I was born into the lap of luxury, an idea that makes coping with your proletariat easier. Obviously cope is easier in the short term than improvement.


>>13746228
>some people would consider me scum
Sour grapes.


>>13746228
>don't assume everyone had your conditions
Literally anybody in this fucking thread can do it, but you desire to live the life your boomers parents/grandparents want you to live... in a desperate clinging to the past. But you'd live better this way.

You're fighting the wrong fight. Please, come join me in the capitalist class.

>>13746128
Looks like something you plop down on the lawn to get the kids to play their Game Boy out of the house.

>>13743825
*sips*

>>13746404
>So first you assumed I was born into the lap of luxury
are you retarded? I know some poor people that barely even work and live off other people, having had all the possibilities to have a decent life by making it themselves.
I only assumed you hadn't had worked an hour in your life, because you clearly seem to lack the most basic understanding of how things work in the real world. I mean, "bluepilled", wtf does that even mean? only retards here in 4chan repeat dumb memes like that.
but of course some things are too hard for some people to understand...

>Sour grapes.
yeah, bad grapes, the kind of people that become rich by taking advantage of other people without moving a single finger. a leech. scum.

>Literally anybody in this fucking thread can do it, but you desire to live the life your boomers parents/grandparents want you to live... in a desperate clinging to the past. But you'd live better this way.
>You're fighting the wrong fight. Please, come join me in the capitalist class.
who said I would or wouldn't do this or that? you have no idea of who I am or what I do, yet here you are talking shit about me.

>>13746558
Not that guy but
>rich taking advantage of
I mean making investments and having good stock doesn't mean you're just straight jewing everyone.

Not even real estate is like that. He made smart investments. Bitching about someone else doing that makes you a faggot.

>>13744240
there's a lot more ways to work for yourself than what the big corps offer you, like running your own MMO goldfarm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHPNZcLPqiI
the owner of the goldfarm featured in this video is a pretty bad programmer and there are multiple videos where people break his farm and his bots get banned all the time
Despite that, he's still making $300/day and doesn't have to pay income tax if he uses crypto.

>>13738041
> blaming capitalism
They pee into bottles because they like to

>>13746606
>real estate
have you ever had to pay rent? how do you feel about landlords sucking your blood, making you pay for their property just because they have a piece of land in a given location? agree, "investments" as a generic term doesn't mean much. living off property, OTOH..

>>13743825
The problem is everyone has knowledge at their fingertips and you need to learn more than a everyone else in your field

>>13746751
I know plenty of people who live in someone else's house and pay rent to stay in a room. Its really no different. I find it far from something you're a piece of shit for especially if you're not exorbitant. Especially with how much this shit can costs to maintenance, all the people that need to be dealt with renting etc etc.

Really i'd be bitching more about zoning laws making a lot of these apartments and houses more needlessly expensive. Look at texas, only state with little zoning and its easily one of the cheapest in living.

Shift your anger elsewhere.

>>13746854
and then, when you look at recent prices of houses, you'll see that those have more than doubled in the last 10 years. why? because people are buying houses to rent them, or simply to keep them without using them.

>>13740897
Unions are fine for the 1/10th of workers who are in them. Imagine going to a tech school for 2 years to be an electrician, then getting told there's no work for you in your state because some dude "put in his dues" or whatever.

>>13746751
property is theft
this is particularly true when it comes to land

>>13746954
>chinese
>zoning laws
>overpopulation
Yeah life be shit right now.

>>13744008

>>13738131
>Working conditions
>communism

When will you biztards learn? Perhaps never.

>>13740889
>blame biology
>don't blame capitalism

Congratulation, you've reach the epitome of alienation.

>>13745434
Laughing my ass off right now.

I had an internet connection and had to ask my dad to borrow his credit card to buy WYSIWYG web builder after my trial ran out from my allowance money <$100.

I entered the world of affiliate marketing from some random guy on YouTube talking about clickbank sales.

Discovered SEO and black hat world, digitalpoint, and many other forums from there.

Would buy random courses online (John Chow, Shoemoney, RichJerk days if anyone remembers). 97% would be bullshit but I’d take one or two lessons/tactics from them.

I my mother and father are married. My father never earned more than 100k when I was growing up, but my mother never worked (housewife). And there were 3 kids and two dogs.

People have this deluded version of what success looks like because they’ve never achieved it (or know anyone that has).

Essentially, they’re money incels.

>>13747524
Replied to wrong post fuck

>>13743181
there was no slaves before the neolitic revolution (no surplus labor at all).
> there will always be slaves

Again, finest /biz logic.

>>13738357
bait

>>13743938
>he believes it's the government which control capitalism and not the opposite.

Fairy tales live a long time. .

>>13744009
Unironically i always choose the slower shipping method because i know it's such a shit job and they are already under harsh conditions. Don't know if doing so relieve them, even a little.

>>13745831
>can't refute the fact that subsidies are socialist
>at best, appeals to a vague notion of historical precedence as a reason why subsidies are not socialist, without citing any events
>calls americans ignorant
ah, yes—the americans that are in opposition to your advocacy for the stealing of their money for its redistribution to corporations and government offices that did not earn it are the ignorant ones. clearly, stealing money at the threat of a lengthy prison sentence from successful businesses to give to middlemen and businesses who aren't able to produce goods and services on their own is just fucking PEAK intellect, and will lead to no problems at all. the best aspect of all of your ideas—THE ABSOLUTE FUCKING PINNACLE OF COGNITION is the notion that nobody within your nation should be able to separate themselves economically from you. you, and all communists—no matter how """""""right-wing""""""" some of them may claim to be—are totally alike in this manner. go take your fucking chained cement ankle weights that you want to tie around all of us in a great big social experiment AT OUR EXPENSE and try hooking them to yourself, and yourself alone for a goddamned change you overconfident, entitled ignoramus.

>>13747524
>My father never earned more than 100k
very common wages, of course

>>13748347
>socialism subsidizes things
>therefore all subsidies are socialist

same as >>13738131
>communists fight for better working conditions
>therefore, better working conditions are communist

you faggots need to learn basic logic. get a book or follow an online course and learn basic logic before trying to come up with an argument. this is why your arguments are weak and make you look retarded. you have no clue about the most basic shit about having an argument. one can't even start talking to you without noticing that you are simply too ignorant and retarded to think about even basic topics.

>>13748704
Can I take the third position and say
"its a mixed economy idea not a capitalistic or a communistic one"

>>13748751
not sure who you are talking to, but just in case you didn't notice: I'm not even discussing the idea of subsidies in >>13748704

but regarding it, protip: neoliberals and conservatives also love subsidies. all politicians do, depending on who they subsidize and for what reasons: votes, kickbacks, protectionism, ...

>>13747499
>>13747464
>communism
>people are treated like farm animals

>>13748704
>you faggots need to learn basic logic
no—actually, we literally don't; how we choose to live our lives and play our role in the economy is entirely up to us, cunt—regardless of whether we have the wit and cunning of a stop sign, or have the intellect to run and direct our own companies—or even if we have the mind to refute some puissant communist on the internet who's telling me that he knows how to live my life better than i. you DO NOT have to engage in conversation with me—and for me, the same rule applies. if i had cobwebs for brains, you should not be affected in any way—and i fucking refuse to have things otherwise.

>communists fight for better working conditions
meanwhile, capitalists HAVE to provide their employees with better working conditions, or their employees either go work for somebody else who provides them with the tools and training that they need, or the employees all do a terrible job because of the crippling working conditions and the guy running the business goes bankrupt because nobody wants his services, or the employees receive undue injuries and they sue their employer. uniquely to capitalism—and this ties in with the employee's option to leave for another employer—the employee can leave their terrible job, and start their own damn business. the more regulation and taxation there is, the harder this is to do, and the less incentive people have to cooperate in the economy. worse still, people like you are utterly insistent on forcing—again, at the threat of a lengthy prison sentence, provided someone who pursues non-compliance with your ideas—everyone to engage in commerce with YOUR organizations—YOUR banks, YOUR water providers, YOUR various unions, etcetera. YOU are the one who needs to justify your behavior, BECAUSE YOUR BEHAVIOR INITIATES FORCE. YOU SUPPORT THREATENING FULLY INDEPENDENT, PRODUCTIVE PEOPLE WITH PHYSICAL VIOLENCE IF THEY DO NOT COMPLY WITH YOUR DESIGNS. YOU CANNOT JUSTIFY—YOU MANIPULATE.

>>13748704
>you faggots need to learn basic logic
no—actually, we literally don't; how we choose to live our lives and play our role in the economy is entirely up to us, cunt—regardless of whether we have the wit and cunning of a stop sign, or have the intellect to run and direct our own companies—or even if we have the mind to refute some pissant communist on the internet who's telling me that he knows how to live my life better than i. you DO NOT have to engage in conversation with me—and for me, the same rule applies. if i had cobwebs for brains, you should not be affected in any way—and i fucking refuse to have things otherwise.

>communists fight for better working conditions
meanwhile, capitalists HAVE to provide their employees with better working conditions, or their employees either go work for somebody else who provides them with the tools and training that they need, or the employees all do a terrible job because of the crippling working conditions and the guy running the business goes bankrupt because nobody wants his services, or the employees receive undue injuries and they sue their employer. uniquely to capitalism—and this ties in with the employee's option to leave for another employer—the employee can leave their terrible job, and start their own damn business. the more regulation and taxation there is, the harder this is to do, and the less incentive people have to cooperate in the economy. worse still, people like you are utterly insistent on forcing—again, at the threat of a lengthy prison sentence, provided someone who pursues non-compliance with your ideas—everyone to engage in commerce with YOUR organizations—YOUR banks, YOUR water providers, YOUR various unions, etcetera. YOU are the one who needs to justify your behavior, BECAUSE YOUR BEHAVIOR INITIATES FORCE. YOU SUPPORT THREATENING FULLY INDEPENDENT, PRODUCTIVE PEOPLE WITH PHYSICAL VIOLENCE IF THEY DO NOT COMPLY WITH YOUR DESIGNS. YOU CANNOT JUSTIFY—YOU MANIPULATE.

>>13738148
Just buy LINK you worthless commie faggot, then you can be the daddy with a trust fund

>>13748347
based

>>13748867
It's funny knowing someone as retarded as you exists and fights so hard to defend their own slavery and ignorance and wants everyone else to be just as stupid and enslaved as you. You know your entire life will be nothing but poverty and impotent anger right?

>>13741507
>got a comfy job as a wage jockey
But that makes him a wagie

>>13749848
>You know your entire life will be nothing but poverty and impotent anger right?
lol, I get paid very well for doing what I like. and these days, I don't even do shit, so I mostly get paid for sitting in my ass and sometimes learning interesting stuff. I also save a lot of money, more than I've ever thought I would be saving.
but, whatever man.

>>13749769
>>you faggots need to learn basic logic
>no—actually, we literally don't
OK. stopped reading right there. well done demonstrating that you are, indeed, retarded, and that you don't care about changing that fact.