/biz/ - Business & Finance

Don't forget taxes you gotta pay...

>>13721571
taxes not until April :)

Good morning everyone! I hope everyone is having a great easy Sunday morning. Remember to grab yourself a cup of early morning coffee and a mimosa before you start researching some companies boys.

Guys what do you think about swing trading CHK? High insitutional ownership, stock prices hovers in the mid $2s and goes up to 3 occasionally. It's been on a downward trend for a while, but I'm wondering if I get in now during this heavy dip if I can make a solid 100% over the next few months. Thoughts?

>>13721729
It's still prominently over $2.
Market cap 4B
For an exploration company like that, can easily got back under 2 on momentum, even below $1 depending on what happens in the energy sector.

You'll want to watch https://www.tradingview.com/symbols/OANDA-NATGASUSD/
The fact that Natty G has been up in may and CHK is down might concern you, or you might like it :^)

>>13721772
Thanks fren. Neat.

>>13721834
also any penny stock on the Robinhood top 100 is a warning

How red this coming Monday gonna be?

>>13722044
Why?

>>13722105
trade deal fear is starting to wear off. Green week

>>13722124
Because Robinhood is all children

>>13722105

>>13722105
Honestly we should start having polls in the after hours versions of these threads posted in the OP. Just pick red day or green day. I'd like to see where the numbers fall and how often the overall group of posters here is right or wrong.

>>13722311
Holy shit I forgot about face. Gimme some of that nickjr

North America best friends gang REUNITE

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/17/business/tariffs-metals-canada-mexico.html

>>13722791
This! Euphoria is here frens. Futures gap and go tonight.

>>13722179
Lol no I’m on the street dude and trade tension is still high no one is buying high risk stocks like China crap still and sentiment is still low, Trump tweet Monday or later today would be great to boost us
Steel being released from tariffs shows nice gains to certain stocks but I’m smelling red Monday

>>13722791
CUM gang is back together again wooooo

>>13722367
You’re gonna be surprised when the poll brings up only 15 people who browse here and switch IP’s to change ID’s lol

>>13723603
>I’m on the street dude

oo
what a cool dude

>>13723610
BIG cums
old world are you EVEN trying

>>13723647
That would also be interesting, honestly.

>>13723658
Just telling it as it is brah and I’ll say this with the steel tariffs lifted from mexico and Canada I would keep my eyes on AKS and NUE :)

>>13723727
thanks for the deep and insightful analysis :^)
anything else you're keeping your eyes on?

I work on a bit of a street myself, tensions aren't so high from what I can see

>>13723808
Couple of plays for earnings this week more specifically JWN the premiums on puts are retarded but I’m 90% certain it’s going to tank
Idk what firm you’re hearing that sentiment on trade is ok but where I’m at sentiment is still low and people are more shilling strong blue chips and steel more than anything else.
To each their own though

>>13722791
Official news was out during market hours Friday and we still sold off. Bear case is that this shows US is trying to focus more on Chyna as the trade spat looks more and more like it will be a full trade war.

>>13722105
>>13722179
>>13722311
We will know Monday morning. If the markets are red in both Europe and Asia there is always a good chance it will be red in America.

Canadian tariffs on ballpoint pens lifted
NWL here we go

Blood red Monday. We go below the 30 day low. Bright green the week after. Each rally will leave us a little short of the last sell off.

Big money isn’t stupid, they want to sell but want top dollar for their bags. This is how they do it, steps down as they offload on the highs.

>>13724214
In most cases, yeah. This instance can go either way.

>>13724659
>Blood red Monday.

soft, gentle pink at worst
Only reason to go hard red is if the chinese chink out

>>13724659
We're heading to the moon. You should have bought last week

The stock market rises, and the stock market falls.
But for those who HODL, it is as the water rushing to the shore, and receding, and once more returning.
The dividends will always flow.

BILIBILI will be launching the Chinese version BanG Dream mobile game public beta test on May 30 for iOS and June 5 for other platforms.
Given popularity of the series, and the performance of the game in other markets, the game's launch is expected to increase the company's revenue and reduce their lost

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/19/investing/stocks-week-ahead/index.html

dollar and yuan

if you're a Chinese company looking to buy expensive things (or a lot of things) in foreign currency, you might re-consider or delay that decision in the short term

But I think it's good news for buying RCs from Alibaba : )

>>13724908
They are probably devaluating the Yuan to absorb part of the impact caused by the additional tariff.

Hello, please write calls, thanks u.

>>13724677
They have already chinked out. The chink out has yet to sink in. There is no trade deal, no negotiations. Mnuchin has no plans to go to China. The Trump blacklist was not a negotiation tactic, it was fort Sumpter.

>>13725284
i say fuck china... buy american.. let them suffer

>>13724785
Getting a sweet .93 divy that I’m psyched about
Dividends are your friends why hold something that doesn’t pay you?

>>13724785
pottery

>>13725284
I don't think the Chinaman can afford to go full dog-eater
They can't afford to feed all their little chink mouths with just Europe/Asia/African trade

you think all the tens of millions of Chinese that are making some money now and growing accustomed to a middle class lifestyle are just gonna move back to the farms?

They will be crushed
except BILI, which will be the first $1T market chap Chinese company

>>13722179
Kek
We past fear / optimism phase
We start see real effect trade war of deep roots in American econmommy

>>13725794
The Chinese government is perfectly capable of letting its own countryman starve and die in order to maintain their rule. See the Great Leap Forward

Curious what is a typical blend if stocks and options? I have one options contract and want to pick some more up, they seem pretty attractive if you're confident in a stock

>>13726017
history might repeat itself in some ways.
in other ways, things are different

there are a lot more chinese, they are more educated and certainly less idealistic compared to those times.
there are more regional factions for Beijing to contend with

certain parts of Chinese history will pertain to what happens over the next decade or so.
But remember this: a few extremely disgruntled workers can do a LOT more damage to an industrial/manufacturing economy than an agricultural economy.

Sure, in the past, if you weren't happy in China, maybe you or your whole village starved.
Nowdays, if you're not happy, you can really throw a proverbial or literal wrench in the gears at your factory. :^)

>>13726070
it's not just 'options vs stocks'
the timing of your option and the difference between current and strike price also effect the implied leverage of the position

I suggest not going more than 10% of your acct value in options overall, but even in that 10% (MAX), having only 2% of same-direction same-underlying options.

>>13726163
Interesting thanks for the tip

>>13724903
Thank you for the updates, BILIposter!

Game looks like it’s got a cute waifu simulator aspect. Hopefully not too erotic for the Chinese Government.

>>13725794
Are you the other BILI investor here? You were the DFshill? Did you get your money and get out, or are you still a Deener?

>>13724659
PLZ GOD YES
COME ON CHINA
YOU GONNA LET TRUMP DAB ON YOU OR YOU GONNA DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT?

>>13726163
People were not idealistic at the time of the Great Leap Forward, they are simply satisfying the political goal of higher output and thus enabled the country to continue donating foods to Africa despite millions starved to death
There were actually more regional factions back then than nowadays. Nowadays there are some different factions within the party but each factions only have limited political influence, unlike back when PRC first established there were various local military power that have been existing from near the end of the Qing dynasty.
Back then at least gun was even a common thing in Chinese society. Now even having some toy gun made of matches in your possession is a jailable offense
What happened in the Wukan village nowadays should show that even if the entire village uprise there are little thing that can be changed (they succeeded with some of their demand back then but many of those gains or promises are being cut back by upper government afterward), not to mention they now have higher control on the society than back in year 2011

>>13726070
The best way to think of options is just leverage. You are getting a multiplier on your trade in exchange for a theta premium and a time limit. That multiplier will multiply your gains and your losses.

You can buy ITM options that give you very little leverage and a ton of theta with an expiration in 2021. These options work very much like a stock would. On the flip side you have an OTM weekly option that offers huge leverage and your expected outcomes will be extremely diverse.

Let’s go BILI!
BILI surrrrrge!

>>13726254
I am a DF shill (I was only really encouraging people to buy it two or three Sundays ago when it was around 1.50 and I was re-reading a bunch of cowgirl doujins).
Still up on DF, sold some and some DF options but I'm going to let my remaining shares ride
I won't stop buying BILI. I will continue to shill KHC, SGMO, and a bunch of other good stuff :). Told u all to buy MD, MCK, ABC, CAH when they were low. I probably shill some other stuff too

>>13726294
Actually most of your post seems like you know what you're talking about more than I do
But I still think my last point holds: the Chinese government can't shrug off huge discontent without cratering their economy.
This makes the position of the Chinese rulers much more fragile compared to 50-80 years ago.
If they want to remain a developed country, they have to maintain some level of GDP and pay for the workers who are now 'middle class'. If they don't, the more highly developed parts of their economy could disappear MUCH more quickly than comparable agrarian economic assets. (of course, they might be able to hold some or most regions together by force, but any level of significant discontent can hurt their economic output severely, very fast).

>>13726338
I want to splash...
wait are those supposed to be Chinese girls or Nips? Does BILI give their anime girls Japanese names?

>>13726070
one of the more basic strategies in a typical portfolio (and I'm talking about normie boomers here) is a blend of stocks and bonds, about 70% and 25% respectively, and a constituent 5% or less dedicated to either some combination of puts or credit spreads that offset your "volatile" stocks. The intuition being, in the following cases your portfolio hopes to do the following:
>Bearish Equities
Your 5% hedge grants you a huge "cash bonus" that let you rebalance your now underweight stocks and overweight bonds
>Neutral
Credit spreads give you a little cash, like a dividend, for the market doing almost nothing
>Bullish Equities
The higher 70% of your stocks gives you substantial growth over the typical 60% stocks and 40% bonds folio most boomers like to shill. You lose money on the 5% hedge but that's ok because you now have a surplus of equity to rebalance.

most "responsible" blend of options works like this, but to be completely honest, most people don't even subscribe to this idea because to all normies options are bad!!!! VERY BAD! NONONO!

It's fucked.

I saw some other people post about ETFs in southeast Asia and wonder what you guys think about this. I hate that most "emerging markets" ETFs are really just China based (fucking vwo...). But I feel china's golden age is over and places like Vietnam are gonna be next in line for a booming economy

>>13726555
checked. they're garbage. Only invest in USA.

>>13726294
>higher control of society now
This x 100. The more I learn about the Uighurs in Xinjiang, and the social credit score, and the face recognition tech, the more clear it becomes that the Chinese are helpless against their government.

I don’t think the Western civilians have all that much power over their governments either, but the control is more of a “soft power” than in China.

And China is spreading their methods of control via tech and surveillance to the rest of the world. Many countries are interested.

By the way, have you ever lived in China?

>>13726410
Nice. I’m also in KHC. As for the rest of your names, I’m more interested in MMM, MCD, MRK, and MO.

>>13726576
The Mexican government absolutely HATES Chiapas, I forget why.

>>13726410
I think Chairman Xi's desire/goal is to turn China back to a more classical planned economy system (like China before opening up or like Russia in the Soviet era) if things continue to head toward this direction. It will crater their economy, but they still will have the power of industrial output to be able to compete with others. People will have harsh life, but they won't have the power to complain just like what we see in places like Venezuela now or in Iran shortly after the Iranian revolution

>>13726464
Japanese girls. It is a Japanese game that Bilibili took the Chinese version license right. You can also play the Japanese/English version of the game, but they will not be associated with bilibili.

>>13726301
The leverage concept is helpful thanks

>>13726477
Interesting. Yeah I don't see them discussed too too often here, but if you're confident in a company it seems like a great way to boost your gains

>>13726640
>By the way, have you ever lived in China?
Not so much for mainland China, most of the time I am at Hong Kong.

>>13726724
if you live in Hong Kong you must earn a good paycheck, the housing is out of whack in there. Wish I had were there too.

>>13726724
I went to Hong Kong recently, I thought it was well organized and fairly clean for such a large dense city. Quite liked it

>>13726555
~10% ex-china (asia, russia, south america) is OK
a lot of those ETFs pay a decent div, but it's yearly paid

Massive shade about 5G.

>>13726804
I have fantastic book recommendation for you if you want, about Hong Kong.

>>13726163
Oh God, having been to China I can tell you the Chinese definitely aren't that bright like everyone makes them out to be. I have met so many engineers there that struggle with basic concepts that it doesn't surprise me how many damn accidents they have over there. Education also doesn't really matter when most of them are brainwashed as shit.

>>13726724
I see. Thank you very much for your BILI updates! I know you don’t even invest in BILI, so I really appreciate it.

>>13726847
they think learning = rote memorization. if something pops up that isnt in a textbook or an original problem comes their way that they didnt see solved before their brains explode

not to mention how corrupt everything is and they pay their way through school. I personally met people at my uni that came from china and paid for their english test scores to get sent to american unis

>>13726896
That description applies to most non-creative thinkers. To create a silly racialism over it is just stupid. And as far as corruption goes, was it not the American intelligence agencies that tried to literally coup a President-elect? Pretty big ask to point fingers (if you are American) about corruption.

>>13726896
>>13726934
Gentlemen, please, observe for yourself that the Chinese are simply just fucking retards in lieu of Occam's Razor.

>>13726829
Sure, what's the book?

>>13726934
I don't know how anything that guy said was racial. Their education system is even more focused on memorization rather than critical thinking than the American system and that is saying something. I would say a cultural thing that they don't have is an eye for detail and I constantly joke with them how in the west we have a saying the devil is in the details and we love the details where I am from.

>>13726663
But that kind of thing, in context of the trade war, means they lose
right?
I'm mostly trying to talk about what options/paths forward China has in terms of what decisions they can make over the next couple years in regards to international trade.
What do you think they will do?

>>13726847
Man I work with Chinese PHDs (Chinese educated and American educated)
I'm not saying they're bright (there are a few I've met who are pretty sharp, they tend to be the American educated ones)
I was saying Chinese are more educated now than they were during the grate leap forward.
That's true. With all the fancy touch phones and gadgets that you kids have these days, you might forget that only 50-100 years ago the Chinese and Koreans were pretty much dirt farmers.

>>13726847
Americans are innovative(doesn't matter the color).. asians are imitative.. browns are manipulative.. blacks are destructive..

The circle of life

Weabs and tripfags ruined what used to be a great general.

sad

How's this book compared to the ones in the sticky?

>>13726981
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/35645000-architect-of-prosperity

One man's governance of what was then to become Hong Kong as we know it.

>>13726865
are there more BILI memes or is this the first one?

>>13726995
You can't really define win/lose of trade war that easily. Many people said Chairman Xi want to be Chairman Mao 2.0 and I think that is true, and that also include rolling back the Chinese social-economical structure

>>13727010
It's just common sense, anon.

>>13727010
It's a good book. Just as good as any in the sticky for its purpose (simple, sensible investing that can make anyone well-off, given enough time).
The books in the sticky skew towards stock-picking and trading instead of index investing.

>>13727019
that's not a meme, that's a corporate banner

>>13726995
Definitely. But I hate having meetings over there because we waste literally +2hrs explaining them basic concepts and why you need to do them just to have nod pretend they understand just to turn around and not do it. Maybe it's a cultural thing or maybe they don't want to look stupid in front of the big boss but this is super frustrating thing. Plus they are all so stone faced, emotionless, and everyone acts like they have a stick up their ass, especially the women.

>>13727012
>>13727012
Milton Friedman visited Hong Kong in the early 1960s and asked Cowperthwaite, who was then Financial Secretary, why he had such limited information about the level of GDP. Friedman later wrote:

> “Cowperthwaite explained that he had resisted requests from civil servants to provide such data because he was convinced that once the data was published there would be pressure to use them for government intervention in the economy” (Friedman and Friedman, 1998)

The archives show that a great deal of this pressure was coming from the UK civil service, who were also trying hard to get the Hong Kong government to raise taxes from their low levels. But the local Hong Kong members of the Legislative Council also applied pressure to gather national income data. Cowperthwaite adopted the familiar tactic of appointing an expert to examine the issue. When seven years later in 1969 he was asked why the report had not been completed, he batted this away with the comment that the delay showed “the intractability of the problem.” He did not mention his own significant role in making its publication intractable for its long-suffering author.

>>13727076
>just to have them nod and pretend
Fixed

ITT: white NEETs with less than 10k "invested" in biotech and triple leveraged ETFs with extreme Dunning Krugers

>>13727098
Even Cowperthwaite was eventually persuaded to give some rough, indicative guess at the level of GDP for one single year. But he quickly followed this up with a warning that such figures were “very inexact” and that they “did not have a great deal of meaning, even as a basis of comparison between economies.”

He argued that the reason that so many countries collected such data was because their governments were much more involved in the economy, such that:

> “high taxation and more or less detailed Government intervention in the economy have made it essential to be able to judge (or to hope to be able to judge) the effect of policies, and of changes in policies, on the economy.”

He saw the Hong Kong government as being in the “happy position” of having very little effect on the economy. But even more importantly for him, he did not want policies to be developed to be driven by short-term national accounts targets, worrying:

> “the availability of such figures might lead, by a reversal of cause and effect, to policies designed to have a direct effect on the economy. I would myself deplore this.”

Cowperthwaite was well aware of how national accounts data had been used in America by Roosevelt to justify the New Deal, and in the UK by Keynes to justify deficit financing. As Diane Coyle has noted in her book on the history of GDP:

> “The story of GDP since 1940 is also the story of macroeconomics. The availability of national accounts statistics made demand management seem not only feasible but also scientific.”

Since Cowperthwaite deplored the way that macro-economics had evolved, it was no surprise that he was not keen to institute a platform of data collection that he felt would lead to mistaken policy. He instead looked back to the economics of Smith, Mill, Ricardo and the like.

>>13727104
Sorry pal, but I have 15k and I only write options.

>>13726934
>>13726992
Thank you for having a brain and explaining to him how cultural differences in how they learn. Another important detail is the view on cheating, they almost view it as doing everything they can in their power to "beat the system" and that is accepted that everyone tries to cheat. Its just a different view that everyone should work against the system to get ahead -- rather than in the west where its considered poor practice

they know its not fair if they're not allowed to cheat since everyone around them is.

it just pisses me off that during my uni years chinese students get away cheating and fucking up the curve for me and the department and school wont ever stop them since they pay big bucks to be there

>>13727144
Cheat better

>>13727128
I was thinking about buying enough KR to write calls on, but the premiums for weeklies aren't that great, need a stock like AMD or IQ with a higher IV to make it worth it. (I'll wait for a crash and then farm IQ for the rest of eternity)
I wish BILI had a fully fleshed out options market

>>13727144
Insect people have no sense of morality. They are stuck in a limbo of technological hell where they have the means but not the ability to become the world's biggest superpower, all because they cannot morally advance together. The Chinese would gleefully drag his neighbor down for a quick buck, instead of engaging in win-win cons to give 2 bucks to everyone else.

>>13727211
I think that's just their mainland culture. All the Chinese long term immigrants who live in the USA I know are really nice desu

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Alphabet Inc’s Google has suspended business with Huawei that requires the transfer of hardware and software products except those covered by open source licenses, a source close to the matter told Reuters on Sunday, in a blow to the Chinese technology company that the U.S. government has sought to blacklist around the world.

* HUAWEI TECHNOLOGIES CO LTD WILL IMMEDIATELY LOSE ACCESS TO UPDATES TO THE ANDROID OPERATING SYSTEM, AND THE NEXT VERSION OF ITS SMARTPHONES OUTSIDE OF CHINA WILL ALSO LOSE ACCESS TO POPULAR APPLICATIONS AND SERVICES INCLUDING THE GOOGLE PLAY STORE AND GMAIL APP.

>>13727286
> Details of the specific services were still being discussed internally at Google, according to the source. Huawei attorneys are also studying the impact of the U.S. Commerce Department’s actions, a Huawei spokesman said on Friday. Huawei was not immediately reachable for further comment.
> Representatives of the U.S. Commerce Department did not immediately have comment.
> Huawei will continue to have access to the version of the Android operating system available through the open source license that is freely open to anyone who wishes to use it.
> But Google will stop providing any technical support and collaboration for Android and Google services to Huawei going forward, the source said.
> On Thursday the Trump administration officially added Huawei to a trade blacklist, immediately enacting restrictions that will make it extremely difficult for the technology giant to do business with U.S. companies.

* Trump effectively is striking right at the core of their business. This won't go over well in Beijing
* It is likely Huawei will now look to release the OS it has kept secret. The one where you will have to use Chinese payment platforms.
* It's usually very difficult to create a new OS because, even if you make it compatible with an existing OS (which is really the only way to do this), you then have to keep up with the changes made in that OS; the owner of the OS will make it difficult for you.
* There's also the problem of licensing and patents.
* The new OS would have to be backwards compatible with Android but not use any US IP. It might actually make sense for Google to help them, because it could then at least sell its software to end users on the new OS.

*This is much bigger than 5G now. Huawei won't be able to maintain existing 4G equipment, they won't be able to get software updates. Not just SEA, but the entire world. Every user of Huawei equipment is harmed by Huawei being put on the entity list, so are all of its supplier.

>>13727286
yeah china is definitely going to retaliate big time
we're fucked

>>13727286
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-huawei-tech-alphabet-exclusive/exclusive-google-suspends-some-business-with-huawei-after-trump-blacklist-source-idUSKCN1SP0NB

>>13727193
I can‘t say I‘d advocate for owning Kroger at all, but I would sell monthlies on those kinds of stocks, usually to capture an actual larger equity movement rather than relying on the premium itself. You also have to understand, I sell options the way I do because I‘m replacing my day job with them. I earn very little from upswings in my underlyings.

>>13727037
Do you think China is going to give the main concessions that Trump and Lighthizer are asking for, or will they not give in to those demands, no matter if tariffs are increased?

Basically do you think China will be agreeable to what the US is asking for in the next 3-6 months (at which point Trump might up tariffs again)?

>>13727076
Man I'm so grateful that I don't have to deal with that in my job.
My job (besides the nice pay and doing things I enjoy) is fantastic for being straightforward with communication. It's an engineering job, but it's an operational-side engineering job.
I still think they should pay me more but it's definitely nice that even if you have to work with idiots (rare, and the dumbest people I have to work with aren't that dumb, just average), you can work around them pretty easily without them wasting your time.

>>13727098
>adopted the familiar tactic of appointing an expert to examine the issue. When seven years later in 1969 he was asked why the report had not been completed, he batted this away with the comment that the delay showed “the intractability of the problem.”

That's some dope shit right there
nice

>>13727104
that only describes like 15-20% of these threads
We're a diverse bunch, promise!
BTW I'm sure it describes ~15-20% of the non-/smg/ posters throughout the rest of /biz/ with their coins

Any companies shares worth fuck all I can buy? I don't care if it goes bust

>>13727364
Probably have a bit of proper war before concession.

>Market crash right after GALT gives me the massive buyout payment.
May the stars align.

>>13727404
VTGN

What do you guys use to buy shares, what site?

>>13727364
>Do you think China is going to give the main concessions that Trump and Lighthizer are asking for, or will they not give in to those demands, no matter if tariffs are increased?
>Basically do you think China will be agreeable to what the US is asking for in the next 3-6 months (at which point Trump might up tariffs again)?
It is unlikely for China to give in, because the reason why Trump increased the tariff was because China withdrawn many concessions they have made during the trade negotiation - This is reported by Reuters, it was not directly confirmed by Chinese government but Chinese government responded that "we are not breaking promises because that was not a done deal" which basically confirmed the Reuters report as accurate, they should have expected this when they made that decision, so I don't think they will change their stance in the trade negotiation just because of all these tariffs and embargo that America is now proposing.

>>13727546
Facebook local buy and sell page.

>>13727316
>>13727193
>I just bought enough Kroger and Bili to write calls with
>They’re the only stocks I have enough of to write covered calls
AAAAAAAAHHH IM FUCKED!

>>13727546
i buy stock certificates on amazon because they have free 2 day shipping

>>13727286
wholesome, secure, American

He already has the bobs and vagene secured, China will not manipulate him any longer

get FUCKED Huawei

>>13727286

>>13727303
We keep thinking this, but still nothing happens?

>>13727546
with craigslist you can meet someone who has the shares IRL and make sure they're genuine and they work. However, they might be stolen.
with ebay, they also might be stolen, and you can't check out the goods before hand. But there will be a much larger selection.

You have to find value where you can. Note that if you buy shares of eBay directly from eBay, they will be genuine, not stolen, and have the free USPS delivery.

/smg/ bros, this is by far the most important post I will ever make.
The chart to the left shows why you are continually cucked by IPOs

>>13727666
It's all gonna be posturing. Market still thinks there will be a deal. I wouldn't expect a huge 10%+ selloff unless trade talks break down entirely with no more meetings scheduled.

> Literal world wide technology restriction imposed by the United States against Huawei.
> People think 'its nothing there will be a deal'
nigga im imma buy war bonds

>>13727720
also remember the real institutional price for things like Lyft and Uber are way way lower. First rounds of funding are getting in for the equivalent of a couple dollars per share, later rounds of funding are still right cheap compared to IPO prices
Beyond Meat is suspiciously absent. Make sure you have ALL the IPOs if you want your super-accurate professional spreadsheet to be taken seriously

>>13727752
hey this is a purely organic security decision made by a corporation (GOOGL) against another corporation, right?
save the pink-woj posting for when futures open, there will be enough time then :^)

>>13727730
I don't think there are any further meeting scheduled right now or was I wrong?

>>13727800
Oops sorry I forgot Beyond Meat
I'm only including the one's /smg/ talks about, I don't particularly care about the rando real estate trusts, definitely not professional

>>13727677
Checked. This, always be careful on Craigslist of course

>>13727730
I want my goddamn VIX spike!!
If futures don’t show a bloodbath I’m going to have to sell an organ.

>that image
Based.


>>13727720
Madotsuki>Cirno

>>13727752
The case for buying bonds does seem to be getting better and better... but don’t we still have another 12 months or so before recession hits? (Based on yield curve inversion)

Really don’t want my cash locked up in bonds, don’t understand them or know how to flip them.

>>13727820
Also forgot Pinterest
What’s happening with Luckin? I don’t want more Chinese exposure than Bili.

Baidu looks like a cheapie right now but I don’t know enough... does it deserve to be this low?

>>13727720
how did you get anime grills on your spreadsheet comfy? Why isn't this standard functionality? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>13727812
Next meeting at the G-20 summit in Japan in about a month

Trump-Xi meeting
with all the other world leaders there to experience the awkwardness

June 28-29 in Osaka

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-14/u-s-readies-new-tariffs-as-trump-says-he-ll-meet-china-s-xi-jvn5hw67
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3001943/trump-xi-meeting-end-trade-war-may-be-put-back-june-sources
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/15/us-china-trade-war-g20-summit-and-2020-elections-in-focus.html

>>13727677
>>13727560
>>13727587
Are taking the piss? I mean online like degiro

>>13727730
There will be no deal, and the market knows it. They spent the last two weeks freeing up capital and redistributing it into assets they believe are better prepared for the coming shitstorm.

>>13727986
>that ID
what does it mean?

>>13727951
That’s not a meeting, that is a pre scheduled event they will both attend. No trade talk will happen.

>>13727888
checked and cirno is best girl so STFU
LK bagholders are particularly cucked. I can't find a lockup expiration, which means institutions can immediately begin dumping their bags on retards. If you can find a expiration date, please let me know
>>13727925
>insert
>picture
>2D waifus
>cirno
>nonnude
>pic related

>>13727973
check the 'broker' pastebin in the OP
it's like the first link

If you're asking a 'what broker should I use' question, you should say what country you're in, approx how much money you have, how old you are, what your investment goal is.
also post ur social and pics of your feet :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnypbnCuH4o

>>13727587
When you go to sell them later do you get the price from when you put them in the mail or the price from when they arrive?

>>13728066
well, you set up a future's contract to sell at a fixed rate of course, to protect from price fluctuations while they're in transit. Always shaft the buyer, anon.

>>13728066
Depends on their shipping terms. Most companies are FOB shipping point, so itll be the price of the shares when they ship. Could be good or bad depending

>>13727720
i see you forgot the pre IPO uber price...

>>13726829
NOKIA
ERICSSON
BUY NOW NIGGAS THOSE ARE GONNA MOON

>>13727995
did you open any of the links I posted

>Under a process outlined by U.S. officials, the new tariffs would not take effect until late June at the earliest. But that could come just as Trump meets with Xi on the sidelines of a Group of 20 leaders meeting June 28-29 in Osaka, Japan, raising the stakes in an already escalating trade war.

>
>The indications that negotiations are paused will focus attention on the next opportunity for Presidents Xi Jinping and Donald Trump to meet -- at the Group of 20 meeting in Japan next month.
>"If the U.S. doesn’t make concessions in key issues, there is little point for China to resume talks," said Zhou Xiaoming, a former commerce ministry official and diplomat. "China’s stance has become more hard-line and it’s in no rush for a deal" because the U.S. approach is extremely repellent and China has no illusions about U.S. sincerity, he said.

There was a sideline US-China trade meeting between Trump and Xi at the last G-20 meeting.

basically, no official meetings until the sideline meeting at G-20. (unless one side suddenly and unexpectedly caves)
For now, both sides know what the other wants. And the other poster was asking about what scheduled meetings are upcoming.

tard

>>13728111
>>13728001
New chart

>>13728001
Consider adding current price and gains/losses for public and tutes?

Not much of a cucking if you still doubled your investment.

>>13728194
The point of the chart is to show how small specs get screwed by buying wayyy higher than institutions, not the future gain. Good luck with your IPOs

Big congrats again to the anon who called the LGF buyout!

>>13721531
Love this OP! New to me.

>>13728117
If I recalled correctly the Chinese representative walked away from the last round of trade talk.
Also,
>"If the U.S. doesn’t make concessions in key issues, there is little point for China to resume talks," said Zhou Xiaoming, a former commerce ministry official and diplomat. "China’s stance has become more hard-line and it’s in no rush for a deal" because the U.S. approach is extremely repellent and China has no illusions about U.S. sincerity, he said.
It is China that is pushing the line here, and I don't think Trump will make any concession even when they meet at G20 when Trump keep claiming how he is winning from the trade war, so I don't think the G20 meeting will result in anything useful.

>>13728232
I’ve never gamed an IPO. Pins would have been my pick, definitely not uber or lyft. Absolutely not beyond meat.

>>13728276
I made $4k day trading the beyond meat raffle last week. Massive swings.

>>13728235
I made it today because yesterday's thread DIED

I was going to clean up the OP info but I was too lazy this morning. Maybe next time


>>13728250
I agree.
Last 'round' of trade talks was just vice premier Liu He in Washington last week or the week before. They didn't leave early, I think he left at the scheduled time.

Bu yeah, we are clearly at the point where there isn't really anything that more talking/communication can do.
Any 'talking' they've done for the past month or two was really just going in circles. The US has had enough time to make their demands clear multiple times over.

Now the real posturing and economic war begins.

A very exciting time to be in and learn from the markets.
An electric time for /smg/ ~

>>13728117
The auto tariffs won’t take effect until after g20, but the main tariffs already did take effect and the Chinese countermeasures take effect June 1. Shit is fucked anon.

>>13728235
>LGF buyout!
you mean
https://nypost.com/2019/05/17/cbs-looking-to-buy-starz-from-lionsgate/
?

>>13728320
yes of course
but you explicitly said
>That’s not a meeting, that is a pre scheduled event they will both attend. No trade talk will happen.
which is wrong. I may have gone too far by calling you a name. I apologize for that. I was strained mentally, emotionally, and spiritually by the fact that I posted three (3) links with relevant information that you ignored.

>>13728307
Seems like a dangerous game. Wouldn’t want to get stuck holding bynd when Tyson announces their new meat substitute, and MCD brings their awesome burger to the states.

2018 meme IPOs was much better for small specs. 2019 premiums were much higher. Maybe because of hype or market boredom?

>>13728320
>Shit is fucked
Thats what both sides want the other to think so that they will break. Talks will resume. A deal will be made.

How to make money off John Deere (DE)? They're going below $100

>>13728488
the "we're having TALKS" headlines don't mean anything
They've been talking for over a year.
China is crystal clear on what the US wants. the 'talking' part of negotiation is over.

We're at the part where both countries pull the levers that they think will give them an edge so that they can get what they want. Both sides want to appear strong and the other to appear week.
Would advise to be reading the 'news' (propaganda) articles from both sides.

>>13728460
man if I could have bought TLRY or BILI for those prices....
hopefully I'll be able to :)
But I'm not getting too greedy, I'm still buying BILI at current prices.

>>13728512
tasty div. You can buy now, or wait until a little later in the cycle.
For now the farmers are throwing a little fit, but Trump will probably start subsidizing them (already promised to buy their produce).
I wouldn't go overweight on CAT or JD, but you can start grabbing a bit. Currently, companies in the US and overseas might be holding off on some equipment purchases. And even if there is neutral/good news and the market pops, it doesn't necessarily mean purchasing managers will suddenly feel OK to buy a huge amount of tractors.
Be patient on the stocks like CAT and JD, but don't wait too long or forget about them! The best way to make money off them is to buy a tractor and start a weed company! grow Hemp and outdoor weed (indica, hearty strains)

Any chance China lashes out at my friend Tim Apple? I would love to buy back in. And I bet he’d love to do some more cheap buybacks!

>>13728628
But I can’t read the news from the other side...

>>13728684
for the slant on the slants (let me know if any of you zoomers need that one explained), there are some Chinese-language on-shore news outlets.
They'll give you the Chink-side news and propaganda.

Between these, the general US-side news, and all the ZH doomies-and-gloomies, it's about as good as you can do reading free internet articles

https://www.scmp.com/news/china
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english//

Don't hold off on buying AAPL too long. Grab some here around ~185, but be ready for more buys all the way back down to 150 and under if things get fun

>>13728771
What China outlets broadcast to outside the world is different from what they broadcast to the populace though. Just a reminder.

HEY you pro traders!

Where you set your stoplosses?
Do you do anything different for trailing stoplosses?

>>13728885
/fit/ incarnate

>>13728799
of course
but it is written from a much more Chinese point of view than any western article.
Also you can find articles about what the CCP is broadcasting to their own citizens:
https://www.whatsonweibo.com/surprise-attack-cctv6-unexpectedly-airs-anti-american-movies-as-china-us-trade-war-intensifies/
(from the ZH article: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-19/china-state-run-media-broadcasts-anti-american-movies-millions-amid-deepening-trade))


>>13728771
I forgot
http://www.globaltimes.cn/
http://en.people.cn/

>>13728684
News from the other side:

>State broadcaster CCTV said China would “fight for a new world,” and said in its long history “there’s nothing” China hadn’t seen before.
>“As President Xi Jinping pointed out, the Chinese economy is a sea, not a small pond. A rainstorm can destroy a small pond, but it cannot harm the sea. After numerous storms, the sea is still there,” anchor Kang Hui said.
>“China will fight to the finish,” said a foreign ministry spokesman, Geng Shuang.
>“We have the determination and capacity to safeguard our interests,” Mr Geng said.
>“China’s countermeasures have shown our determination to safeguard the multilateral trade system.”

It is rare for CCTV, generally the more formal propaganda channel among Chinese communist party's media, to issue such a strongly worded statement nowadays. I think it summarized the current Chinese government attitude pretty well.

My hat goes off to those still in KHC holding through earnings you guys have the biggest balls in this thread.

>>13729218
It is no secret
I hold both paper KHC shares and tangible, physical KHC assets such as ketchup and macaroni
>>13729002
>All last week, anti-American propaganda flourished across the country, with the slogan "Wanna talk? Let's talk. Wanna fight? Let's do it. Wanna bully us? Dream on!" going viral on Chinese social media platforms.

DESU the anti-American sentiment from China is just because our boys TL beat IG in the LoL tourney

Who's ready for the bright green futures?

>>13729002
oh jesus
we giving china something for rally against -_-;
probably first existential threat they ever face
well, guess mongols rekt them...

>>13728885
>pro traders!

lol

Anyway, it depends on the chart. A stop loss should go a smidge below the nearest decent support. That could be one of the moving averages or the bottom of the previous step on a staircase pattern.

>>13729359
flat, flat, flatty

I bet they will trend down more than trend up

3.5 hours until Shanghai opens

>>13729359

not much room for Kellogg drawdown
Ceo says its a great deal

>>13729446
what you think about CPB? down 4% after hours.


https://rocklandregister.com/2019/05/19/campbell-soup-cpb-downgraded-by-valuengine.html

>>13729359
>wrong again bagsy

>>13729463
its one of my largest holdings. it will be the next pepsico because of snyder-lance.
I dont think its actually down 4% but any drop is welcome so I can make it my #1 holding

>>13729500
It's
>wrong again baggie
And this time he's right. So shush.

>>13729747
>It's
>>wrong again baggie
for you

>>13729442
Saved

>>13729747
>+0.15%

Well fuck, good thing I’m not playing oil stocks now that we’re looking at war with Iran Jesus and futures are green? Is this a bull trap?

>>13729777
Checked

lol. JPM now releasing articles saying 3M could cut the dividend even though they already raised it for this year. Obviously they dont want small specs buying while its below the monthly bolli

>>13729857
>3m
>cutting it's dividend
Hell would literally freeze over before that happens

Why did this board exchange ebay boards for fucking more fake crypto cunts?
Stock market generals but no one wants to listen to reasoning
6:34 but its 5:34 somewhere
Black is blue

>>13729801
Old news, the market wants higher. At least for now that is.......

>SPY VIX futures up 6%
Tomorrow is going to be a blood bath

>>13729801
theres no real threat of a war its fucking fake.

>>13729928
Nope. Greeny greens. It's ok.

>>13730000

>>13730015
>>13730000
Ror!

>>13729928
pretty sure its a glitch and they prematurely did a contract rollover, thats why its a frozen gap

>>13729930
The Iran thing?
I give it 15% of going hot in the next 24 months
You have unpredictability on the Iranian side (the ayatollah) is 79.
There is some fresh unpredictability on the US side. I think Trump prefers to keep things stable and focus on China, but he has Johnny Bolton and Jerry Kush stirring the pot.

Of course, we have to think about what Russia is telling Iran. Probably Russia will try and keep them leashed, but draw attention away from Syria and Venez. now that things seem to be going their way in those countries

>>13730000
Fuck your digits, red red red!

>>13730111
>>13730000
These digits... What does it meme /smg/?

>>13729777
>>13730000
>>13730111
It brings me great joy that we steal these digits from the cryptokiddies.

>>13730130
the crab cometh

(/)(;,,;)(/)

>>13730143
Perhaps. But will digits confirm?

Should I invest in oil? Any suggested ETFs?

>>13730111
Shoo shoo, gains goblin.

>they are still looking for reasons the market will open green
>they actually think such reasons exist

>>13730173
USO
(CHK if you're looking for a high volatility individual stock)

>>13730173
Invest in water, bruh

>>13730103
the "threat"

>>13730173
If you have any investments you almost certainly have some exposure to oil prices. Index funds will hold companies whose earnings depend on oil prices.

SO in determining how to further expose yourself to oil, you need to take stock of how crude prices currently effect your position, then either hedge against that or extend your leverage.


Are you just talking about investments that track crude prices or something more exotic? what did you have in mind?

Consider XOP over commodity ETFs - this one will go up and down with oil prices but instead of the ETF jsut buying oil futures, it holds shares in companies that (hopefully) generate value through productivity.

Just a portfolio and a dream

>>13730190
We got peace in the Middle East. We got a brand spanking new trade deal with Mexico and Canada. The 24-hour news cycle over China trade talks has passed and people don't even remember there's a possibility of a trade war. We're going higher!

>>13730290
May Allah be with you in your ventures, anon. Glory awaits.

OH NO NO NO NO

>>13730234
>>13730173

If we compare PXJ to XOP, I would prefer XOP between the two
Note that XOP and PXJ both have negative 5 year returns.

https://www.invesco.com/portal/site/us/investors/etfs/product-detail?productId=PXJ
https://us.spdrs.com/en/etf/spdr-sp-oil-gas-exploration-production-etf-XOP

XOP has an expense ratio of 0.35%, PXJ as a pretty large 0.86%

remember that an overall S&P index fund will probably have better returns and lower fees, and should have a pretty strong crude price correlation going forwards.

For example, VOO has an expense ratio of 0.03% and will outperform XOP or any oil commodity price over almost any time span you look at

>>13730229
?

>>13730311
We lost 2% on trade negotiations. We gained it back. Now we have a trade war. No way the market keeps its head in the sand much longer. Red Monday.

>>13730356
SOMEBODY TAKE THIS FUCKERS PHONE AWAY
JUST FOR A WEEK
OUR PORTFOLIOS DEPEND ON IT.

>>13730400
Relax. If you're investments are solid, then just hodl and wait out the storm.

>>13730000
>>13730111
>>13730130
make sure you include me in the r/4chan screencap

>>13730377
whats the threat they are using for motivation for a conflict with iran?

>>13730497
>plebbit

>>13730499
Iran funded militia just launched a fucking rocket into Baghdad 1 mile from the US embassy, are pirating Saudi oil tankers and are threatening to shut the strait of Hormuz
>Eurocucks blame America for everything

>>13730557
>le epic repeating numbers

>>>/leddit/

>>13730570
Thanks for the first bit of info true or not , no one else has ssaid jack shit. Not even google.

>>13730575
>no digits

>>13730629
I bet you can't even triforce, newfag
I can I read how to on reddit

hey boomers, just made over 100k off bitcoin in the last 24 hours...EAT MY ASS HAHAHHAHAA!
oh oh btw btw, FUCK ISRAEL!

>>13730575
You're a tripcunt. You're so reddit you needed a username on an anonymous image board.

>>13730499
they're sailing some boats over there, then the "Iranians" will blow one of them up
or 'the Iranians' will shoot down a passenger airplane

something like that
just like how 'Syria' launching chemicals was such a big deal 2 years ago

no, Iran isn't doing anything special now that we need to invade it.
Bolton and Kushner (and others) have worked their way into enough of a position in the White house that if the right buttons get pushed, we get another multi-trillion dollar confrontation.

Even the posturing is enough to try and convince congress to spend more on 'defense'

I could mention that the Israelis and Saudis wouldn't mind us fighting Iran, but that should be obvious enough

>>13730666
Hi Satan.

>>13730694

ah, some clarity:
>they're sailing some boats over there, then the "Iranians" will blow one of them up
They're = The US navy

>>13730619
I fucking told you dumbass do your own research next time it's all on google and business insider maybe actually get a job and pay for the subscription
If you're in oil stocks right now you're in for a bad time

>>13729425
Shanghai market is dictated by policy and government desire, I won't use it as an indicator. The H-share index at Hong Kong is probably a more meaningful indicator for mainland Chinese companies performance and investors expectation.

>>13730733
I just meant that after a flat S&P futures open, the Chinese markets opening is the next time to check S&P futures
Shanghai and Hang Seng both important to US futures

>>13727730
>posturing
google just banned huawei from using their apps and security updates because of the huawei trade ban thing, and you think the chinese will simply watch the show from their seats? m8, this is practically a declaration of war...

>>13730575
go away nigger

>>13730653
Rolling for you to get prostate cancer.

>>13730730
Im not, I never loose when it comes to futures, stocks, trust funds..

>>13730778
Damn it so close gotta reroll.

>>13730666
oy vey antisemnite!

>>13730791
Doesn't work that way desu

>>13730824
But I was so close and that faggot deserves it.

Trump taling in 1 hour
Monday futures depend on it
Anyone got a stream? I might have one but tradingfrat may or may not do it live..

>>13730842
Rerolls don't count, and often backfire. Has to be natural. If it is to be, Kek wills it so.

>>13730847
can't wait to hear what Zion Don has to say. Probably more of the same "me want jew jew cum! mmmm" fucking faggot ass..

>>13730870
You have to go back

so now that the golden bull run is back, anyone get cheapies on friday?

>>13730870
That’s great and all but do you have a stream?

>>13727800
>this is a purely organic security decision made by a corporation (GOOGL) against another corporation
no, you dumbass. this is because of the ban imposed by the US govt.

Iran thing is heating up after that missile hit. Trump told them flat out "we will kill you all" or words to that effect. First the trade war with China, now this. At this rate we'll be in another conflict soon.

60 minutes is sending some fud out on the block chain. Everybody is going to sell their crypto for equities.

Fewtoors looking mighty green

>>13730979
Best stocks for upcoming war:
Steel(AKS, NUE, ARNC)
Defense(KTOS, KEM)
anyone wanna throw food and tech go ahead

>>13731066
for now. Trump talks in 1 hour will determine if they stay that way, note they aren't high green at all and just barely peaking.

>>13730937
amd

>>13730755
We will see. Futures aren't reflecting it.

>>13730855
Dubs of truths, the dude abides.

>>13731135
AMD was a cheapie at $13 a year ago, not $28 now.

>>13730954
is English not your first language or do you have aspergers

>>13731212
I can't wait to read the books they write about this guy in 5-20 years
what an interesting character
what made him like this?
has he ever been in a fight IRL? maybe he got his ass beat and fantasizes about striking out with enough violence to destroy a nation?
iis he a violent or gentle person in real life, is I guess what I'm asking

If odds,
BLACK MONDAY

>>13730673
OUCH
>>13731119
What’s he talking about? Not like he’ll stay on topic...

BITCHES I FUCKING TOLD YIU GOING LONG EOW IS RIGHT THING TO DO.
Fucking hell this game is easy

Locked 5%, trailing

Trailing closed, getting cockier with my understanding of Mister Market.

>>13731287
Trump's talking in 37 minutes, and then 30 minutes from then China is going to open up with a bang and kill the futures. Put me in the screen cap.

>>13731287
>>13731338
>>13731369
A near tragedy in 3 acts. Bravo.

>>13731256
>is English not your first language or do you have aspergers
google didn't decide anything by themselves, not based on security or anything. their govt imposed a ban and they had to comply.
and yes, english is not my first language, but you clearly are retarded.

>purely organic security decision made by a corporation
you are saying they decided, for security purposes, to not give huawei access to their app. that's simply false.

>>13731394
no I was being sarcastic
u autistic

>>13731378
>idk baggie
I dont know. Not sure what to make of it right now. Will have to wait and see. You're probably wrong tho.

>>13731412
yes, I am. so what?

>I was only pretending
fuck you

>>13731412
>u autistic
*we* autistic. I find it hard to believe normal people would find enjoyment from the culture of 4chan

>>13731378
Well we don't really give a shit do we ? Long term short is still in play and I already made money to eat well on position nobody wanted to enter on Friday (reason why it worked ).
Now I can sleep well

>>13731412
lmao rekt

WHO THE FUCK HAS THE TRUMP TALK STREAM DAMMIT IM BALLS DEEP IN SPY CALLS

>>13731474
Fox. It's on his twitter

>>13731491
thx bby

>>13731427
no I mean the post was phrased in a way that is obviously sarcastic

>>13731245
$28 will look cheap when its $60 next year

>>13731501

>>13730497
Further proof you're a newfag who showed up in 2016

Futures slowly coming down lads....dubs and we go red

>>13731593
Dubs and it moons in the next hour.

>>13731593
i moved to cash so im gonna be DIAMONDS if i can buy cheapies tomorrow

>>13731579
Been here since 2010 when I was 12

>>13731534
How many $100 eoy posts were there last year?

>>13731616
Name one mod other than moot

>>13731678
Wt snacks

>>13731678
>>13731616
Actually you'll just Google it because you're a fag
You can't into dubs, you can't into wojaks, you can't even into investing you pathetic zoomer.
Newfag confirmed

some jap stuff today and tommrow

BOJ might come online and give the giggabull

>>13731702
Pepe and Wojak and all related memes are the epitome of r/4chan

>>13731687
Filtered unironically

>>13731616
>>13731687
>>13731724

>>13731702
Fun fact: I used to be a janitor over on /v/ for a few months and actually knew Grapeape and alkaid
They fired me cause apparently I was too "micro managing" involving ban requests which didn't make sense to me cause the point of being a janitor was to clean up the place and not be paid.

>>13731737
Quality post

>>13731608
I may have been right with no magic dubs needed.

>>13731593
I hope it bleeds red. I fucking bought TVIX and don't want to get justed.

>>13731256
Kek he probably kicks puppies and kittens for fun and bullies orphans.

The whole world's going to hell. Ironic thing is that hello, due to population growth acceleration we're all gonna have to get along at some point due to there being no more room left to put houses and shit. Most of the planet is water you know.

>>13730377
>>13730234
Thanks, think I'll just stick with my Schwab broad market fund.

>>13731920
He dodged the draft for Vietnam......
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_R._Bolton#Vietnam_War

was friends with Clarence Thomas at Yale before that. 70 YO now

>Bolton is married to Gretchen Smith Bolton, a financial planner with AXA Advisors. Together they have a daughter, Jennifer, and reside in Bethesda, Maryland. He is a Lutheran.

nothing too interesting about his early or personal life on wikipedia, besides the Vietnam thing

>futures solidly green
DRUUUUUUUUMMMMMPPPPOFFFTTT!!!!

>>13732006
I don’t think you understand how painful bone spurs truly are!

National Guard were the REAL heroes

>>13731952
Overpopulation is a meme. It's true in a societal sense, but on the matter of actual physical space and recourses it's complete bullshit. Just for an example, America (alone) is still 70% untamed wilderness.

apparently (according to /tv/ and some people I know IRL) the recent GoT seasons have been weak. From the /TV? sticky, it looks like the final ep is bombing. That's funny, but the important billion dollar news is that the guys who wrote all these episodes that even normies don't like very much are already on the books to write the next three star wars movies.

something to consider for you DIS holders. Wonder if it will be down tomorrow if the reaction to this episode is bad enough

(haven't watched and GoT, haven't watched any of the Star Wars since it was sold to Disney)

>>13732249
>the next three star wars movies

why does this exist

>>13732263
they always have these big hundred-million dollar productions (TV and Movies) planned out years in advance

https://bgr.com/2019/05/17/game-of-thrones-petition-fever-hits-benioff-and-weiss-star-wars-too/

I'm following along with the /tv/ sticky to see how bad it gets. Usually on Sunday night at this time I go grocery shopping because there will be fewer people :^)

>>13732249
The show is fucking expensive in the first place because they made some really bad decisions. The actress who got paid to play Cersei literally was paid a million dollars an episode and most of it was her drinking wine on balcony. I'm sure the creators were just like fuck it, this shit is getting too expensive anyway let's end it all in one season.

>>13732301
I mean that's over and done.
Maybe bad news for AT&T because they own HBO? It shouldn't matter too much now that the series is over, HBO got their money for 8 seasons. It doesn't matter for them if people get mad at the writers at the end.
It does matter for Disney, because they're probably expecting those 3 Star Wars movies to do $1Billion+ each, box office + merchandise and all that.
So if this GoT final ending fiasco turns into enough of a meme among normies, it could imply hundreds of millions in downside to Disney

The GoT actors definitely got theirs

>>13723603
>>13723647
>>13723727
>>13723858
So why exactly did this guy's posts get shoah'd?
>>13732409
>>13732263
>>13732249
I'm wary about entertainment companies. A lot of video game franchises aren't doing well, nobody's going to subscribe to ten different streaming services, people will drop their HBO subs now that GOT is down, and you see companies doing all sorts of retarded shit to stay relevant. I'm mainly talking about progressivism to market to college kids and niggers with white girlfriend to market to the black populace (buy our shit and you'll get a white girl- this is actually pretty racist on the corporate end).

This doesn't mean they're in a death spiral at all, but there's a reason they're all suddenly min/maxing.

>>13732437
Cause mods think I don’t know how to ban evade
Don’t report me dumbasses I’ve made y’all money.

>>13732249
>final ep is bombing
It’s still going to set records, more people are watching then ever. Unlike other serial dramas that tanked in quality over time, LOST and Walking Dead come to mind, GoT’s final two seasons have been compelling enough or short enough or just have so much momentum that people haven’t quit watching.

Still you make a great point, I forgot Disney was invested in these hacks. Do zoomers like the new Star Wars with their SJW slant?

Do we know anything about the TV series and theme park additions coming for Star Wars? Those are more what I’m interested in as an investor, as well as cape shit, merch, and the Winter family movie lineup.

>>13732492
QRD on how? 4chinz blocks my VPN's exit ports.
>>13732499
It's a fucking shame. The Walking Dead's first and middle few seasons were literally Fallout 1, 2, New Vegas-tier. Best thing on television. Coincidentally, those happened to be the parts where they followed the comic book frame-by-frame.

>>13732249
>the next three star wars movies

GoT series finale was fucking amazing. Buy A T&T.

Shanghai and Hang Seng both down a bit, S&P futures still up a little bit

>>13732610
won't matter for AT&T, it's not like people are gonna subscribe more after the shows over
I might unironically buy some T for unrelated reasons

Normies hating the GoT writers will hurt DIS, see the link I posted above

>22 yo m
>live in Ontario, Canada
>total newfag in stocks
>currently $5k available for investing

Anyone able to suggest a brokerage to go with? Since I’m a newfag I should ask is investing $5k even worth it?

want to go all in on $spy with $100k tomorrow

>>13732682
Investing any amount of money above $100 is worth it
No idea about leaf brokerages tho

>>13732682
Just use robinhood for small time trades otherwise you’ll be paying out the ass in commissions just to save yourself a few bucks on a bad stock especially if you make mistakes and as a newfag you WILL make mistakes.

Please tell me SPY dumps to 280 tomorrow.

>>13732712
>>13732682
Robinhood isn't available in Canada
Googled it and Wealthsimple is a leaf robinhood clone
Use that one

>>13732682
Try Interactive Brokers or Questrade if you can't use Robinhood

Unless anyone Canadian can weigh in and give advice

https://www.google.com/search?q=canadian+broker
https://www.stockbrokers.com/guides/best-brokers-canada
https://youngandthrifty.ca/the-ultimate-guide-to-canadas-discount-brokerages/
https://www.moneysense.ca/canadas-best-online-brokerages-2018-comparison-tool/

did you see that Raptors game? double OT

>>13732731
futures are up
china is out of options, they already threatened to stop buying us treasuries. Their economy was already balanced on egg shells before the trade war and their housing bubble is about to explode along with all their shitty loans they dumped on people to stimulate their economy

>>13732750
https://www.wealthsimple.com/en-us/pricing/
does have fees, not too much though
but it also has dividend reinvesting

Might be OK, but it looks like they really 'guide' you (IE, tell you what to do).
That might be good, the brokerages I posted are more 'traditional'

>>13732701
>>13732712
>>13732750
>>13732755
Thanks for the advice boys
Gonna look into Wealthsimple for now, thought about talking to my bank (BMO) about stocks but I’m guessing they’d charge higher fees?

>did you see that Raptors game? double OT
Only saw the last minutes but yes that was insane

>>13732775
Doesn't matter, China can command economy their way out of it.

I've got 155 T babies. T ain't hurting. They're on track to pay down 75% of a 40b debt by year end.

Which is impressive. More so when you realize that this was before the 5G full rollout, the Streaming service and before Time warner all is fully operational. Plus the First net thing and Xandor.

>>13732838
BMO fees are in the 4th link I posted

The lowest fee way for you to invest is Questrade, you can buy ETFs for free. No commission ETF trading, no annual fee (as long as you make 1 trade per quarter)

There is no direct Robinhood competitor (ETFs + Stocks +options for 'free'), but being able to trade ETFs for free is second best thing.

You can look up annual fees and commission pricing from any brokerage online, the fourth link I posted has a comparison but you'll want to double-check from the actual broker websites.

with only 1k you'll really have the best time if you're obsessive about keeping fees and commissions as low as possible.

>>13732895
Amazing.
Can't wait to buy some T

>>13732910
Hmm alright I’ll look into questrade
$1k sounds good to me, I didn’t wanna start out with $5k right away tbqh

>>13732910
*you do have to pay to sell ETFs on Questrade. but for an investment account, don't worry too much about that.
Still the one I would choose to buy $1k of ETFs (Canadian or US)

>>13732949
Yeah no reason to buy all-in at a certain time. Especially with free commissions :)

>>13732895
Now I'll admit to being a Harry Potter fan. Liked the books and films. Anyway I hope that the last 3 of the spin off films keep for lack of a better word the same tone/feel/flow (whatever you call it) that the others did now that Time warner is now under T fully. To many films are nothing but action and visuals with story/character moments not even added in anymore. Considering that HP is a major revenue source for them the risk of them fucking it up is very slight. But who knows.

>>13732974
>the risk of them fucking it up is very slight
uhhhh... source?

The HP fans I know of disavow her new stuff.

>>13732682
I'm literally you, but I already have my 5k with scotiabank who charges $10 per trade.

>>13732974
>>13732993
HP is hella pozzed now and the fanbase has finally, agonizingly, grown out of that shit franchise.

Futures currently green, boys!

>>13733008
please keep polspeak on /pol/

Most franchises tend to get shittier over time. The original pokemon still have some of the best, the original star wars is still the most fun, the first Matrix film, etc

Sequels, trilogies, and extended franchises were a mistake. How many sequels did Shakespeare and Tolstoy make?

>>13733099
>pointing out that current year has ruined a franchise's sequels is polspeak
try again retard

>>13725389
This. We need to make sure China does fal apart before they continue to fuck up the planet

Good news boys, VSTM is back on the menu!
https://seekingalpha.com/article/4265168-verastem-speculative-buy

>>13733338
Pozzed is polspeak

>MMM in for more pain
>Analyst who correctly predicted GE’s massive failure
Goddamn it why did I buy
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/17/jp-morgan-3m-troubles-will-continue-may-cut-dividend.html

I’m afraid to look at what the analysts have to say about Kroger...

>>13733517

didn't buy MMM or KR, even though I had them in my sights
even had buy orders ready, didn't pull the trigger
I forget what I bought instead.... Oh well

: )

>>13733517
Every time I've been into a Kroger lately its packed with bugs. The one I used to go to installed a bunch of cameras and monitors pointed at the self-checkouts. Did Kroger start a food stamp bonus program or something?

Is /smg/ a market mover?

>>13733678
Bugs=nigs, but same difference I suppose

>>13733683
no

unless the market you're talking about is the BWL.A stock price, which one of our posters claims to have control over

>>13733517
retarded fud to scare small specs into selling the bottom. stick to the bollingers and ignore impossibilities like '3m cutting the div'. enjoy the free money in 30 days

>>13733707
yup, its in the palm of my hand

>>13733807
make a new thread
I sleep

ok...
>>13733882
>>13733882
>>13733882
new

>>13733884
thanks love :)

>>13732731
Yes please

>>13732775
China never had options in the beginning you fucking nigger. This market needs to be fucking fucked for a few days.