/biz/ - Business & Finance

its the weekend, markets are closed
whats the point of this lmao get some sleep lol

>>13704222
Be my valentine, RKG!

First for RKG the best trader of all time

First for Mrs. Brisby carrying your blown up accounts out of the mud.

Also sell more calls anons.

Normie friend asked me what he should do to invest without having to do anything because the banks aren't giving him squat for sitting on savings. He's scared of going in crypto so I was thinking bonds, any you guys would suggest? Worth using a mutual fund? I had my eyes on VWEHX if so, but maybe going a safer fund like LBUSTRUU:IND would be better?
thnx 4 spoonfeed bros

>>13704279
Passive investing for normies
>60% stocks and 40% bonds
Active investing for normies
>70% stocks, 25-27% bonds, 3-5% stock hedge
Degenerate /biz/ and wsb tier investing
>penny stocks and FDs
Patrician investing, only the strongest of the strong
>Write options
Patrician investing 2, Die a Boomer edition
>VTSAX
>STACK
>STACK
>STACK IT UP

>>13704279
three fund portfolio

If the economy is so strong, why don't we raise interest rates?

I have slowly come to the terrible revelation that none of you know what the fuck you are doing. I have a Master's in Accountancy with a Minor in Finance. I work for a fortune 100 as a corporate accountant with a CMA and CPA. I used to have some faith in anon. None of you know how to actually value a company. You have no fucking clue how taxes work. You can't read financial statements. For fuck's sake you think TA works and the entire field of decision science churns out dissertations every other day highlighting their absolute dismay at the fact that brainlets ever consider using it. You have no idea what Dunning-Kruger is. You don't know what survivorship bias is. You are too fucking uneducated and stupid to comprehend how fucked you are.

Idk why I'm even posting this, fucking goodluck kids.

>>13704279
I like BBUS .02% ETF or the FZROX 0% Fidelity mutual fund for new investors.

>>13704348
WAAIIIIIT
let me cash out first

>tfw make shitpost and have to wait until next general to be taken serious again

>>13704495
Jaime did nothing wrong (3 eyed raven wanted him to push Bran off)

what the FUCK am i supposed to do with my weekend

>>13704615
Lift, shoot gunz, fuck a qt, bee urself.

>>13704615
> wake up 'fuck yeah its monday'
> check the calendar
> only saturday
i hate weekendssssss

>>13704279
One problem with "high-yield" bond funds like that is that they more closely follow trends in stocks, assuming you're trying to hedge against a downturn in stocks. See pic related. In general, if you're assuming that bond funds are a risk-free version of stocks with a lower yield, that is a mistake.

>>13704279
At the very least t-bills so the interest income is kept safe from state taxation. Opening a TreasuryDirect account is super easy as a US citizen and overlooked by many. I park some extra funds in a UBS ETN, CEFL. Anons also recommend SDYL.

>>13704628
ok but what if option D directly interferes with C and maybe A and kinda B too i guess

>>13704631
Going on TradingView and tuning your indicators and seeing what works.

Literally me every weekend.

I want a crash so I can buy bank stocks at the bottom

>>13704648
Doom

>>13704656
weekends are fake and gay, i iwish i lived in da great city that never sleeps

>>13704628
>lift takes effort
>shooting costs money and is scary
>having sex requires effort, skill, and leaving one's residence and engaging human interaction
>being oneself results in sitting at home doing nothing but computer stuff

>>13704364
>claims to be very well versed in finance and intelligent
>just now comes to the relization that /biz/ is full of financially illiterate retards

Pick one and only one

>>13704696
> responding to basta
baste

>>13704681

>love the excitement of market hours
>making WAYY too many moves, buying meme stocks from /smg/
I used to be so cautious and cash heavy... stocks went down, I’d get excited for cheapies. Stocks went up, I’d feel good for my wise investing making money.

I’ve become trash. I’m those degenerates as seen on Kaiji.

I’ve got all my money in the market right now, almost. About 1/4 VTSMX/VTSAX, but also put a good chunk in VIIX in case Xi fucks us.

>>13704719
hey you cant take it with you pal, enjoy the ride

> you will never experience Chicago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CE352RwIAXY

I don't understand stock options when you can just buy the stock if you think it's going to go up

>>13704905
it's all about the premium gain.. Most people never even exercise options.

Over time I think it's better to sell options than to buy..

>>13704847
https://youtu.be/adIgz0RJKoc?t=106

What the fuck is wrong with the tap water in New England? It’s SOUR, I don’t think I’m gonna make it boys
>>13704905
There’s a ton of stuff, difference in premium, volatility, etc. Look up the black-scholes equation

>>13704905
Options let you control a lot of shares for a small amount of money for a limited time.

>>13704753
That’s what you say when you’re like 80 and you’ve hopefully made it, not when you need funds to afford a rent/home ownership, vehicle upgrades, buy time to establish value in your career (think paying for fluff and fold,
Maid service, car service, etc.), keep up with the bare minimum of social demands (gotta have a smartphone and clothes) and finally afford courtship.

Doomers can’t think that way unless they have their shot on lockdown.

>>13705171
you...
have been infecedted bt demons O_O

>>13704755

Driving through there was hell. Couldn't imagine living there. What a fucking shithole

>>13705280
Maybe honestly. I read this on the plane ride, it was lowkey very good despite the cringey intro. Left hand path homosexual nigredo-alchemical sex magick. Is not the eye of Horus superior to the mouth of Isis?

>>13705280
>RKG won’t even give you the courtesy of telling you “no.”

WELL FINE I HOPE YOU GET WELL SOON THEN

>>13704905
its weird to me that you can buy like a 10$ option for like .03 when the stock is selling at 12$ am I lookin at it wrong or is there something stopping them from exercising the option?

>>13705396
Im gonna guess you were looking at the put column.

One day, not long from now, you will look back and say "I was in LCI. I was there when the record short squeeze happened. When the shorts were massacred."

>>13705331
>recto
>semen
>endure

Endure semen in your rectum?

>>13705890
That’s a big part of it lol. The gestalt is that the text presents itself as a manuscript that was being studied by the SS at wewelsberg (complete fabrication kek) that drove the nazis insane until they sodomized each other to death. It actually gets pretty interesting though, the author clearly has a relatively good understanding of thelemic/occultist cosmology. Ra-Hoor-Khuit and Nuit are mentioned explicitly alongside the Kabbalistic cosmic incest of Babalon and the Beast, and I guarantee whoever wrote it cribbed stuff from the O9A since it mentions the Acausal Universe. A big part of it is wholesale plagiarized from renaissance alchemical texts from Agrippa, but it’s done cleverly with the allegorical rituals perverted so they would lead to desecration of body and soul instead of purification. Also has some homoerotic scat play + rape stories with a Grail Knight who’s a sort of Fallstaff character, Evola would be furious kekkies

Also SPY gaps down on Monday, I’m not offtopic posting

>>13706023
Jeez sunny, that sounds like mostly nonsense with enough sensible words to sound interesting. Agrippa, I recognize that one. And gestalt, I’ve always been jealous of the gestalt psychodramas Shinji got during the final episodes of Evangelion.

Gestalt therapy might be more useful than the talk therapy I waste money on. I don’t have the imagination or memory to get the most out of it though.

You really think spy gaps down? You think my viix might be worth something?

>>13704222
What's the /biz/ opinion on the current fuel cell hype? Have you invested?

>>13706568
zero percent hype, no fuel cell stocks

>>13704648
be a better version of yourself, then that becomes the new yourself

>>13706568
I'm pretty familiar with the technology and engineering trade offs and I'm gonna tell you now that widespread adoption of fuel cell cars is neeeeeever gonna happen, if gasoline gets replaced it'll be by battery electric cars

>>13706568
>>13707051
they're pretty neat at providing power for spacecraft, though! but that's a very small market

>>13704279
Tell them to buy a bunch of 5 year treasury bonds

>>13707059
24 years from now we'll be mining the asteroid belt and colonizing Mars, and there will be civilian freighters hauling supplies and goods from each destination using the Japanese-built space elevator; Brazilian moon base, Chinese space shipyard, American colony soil on Mars and military positions in the Belt; imagine the amount of spaceships that will exist to maintain these vast supply chains, all made possible by fuel cells.

>>13707566
Fuel cell? I didnt know anyone was still pushing that meme.
Fuel cells add to many additional energy exchanges, a fossil fuel car is much more efficient. Fuel cells will never happen cause its a shit idea that’s wildly inefficient

>>13707915
Ramscoop hydrogen then fuse it. Get the glowniggers at Lockheed's to stop sitting on their reactor

Buy puts on every Chinese company right now. Investors are getting out of any Chinese company that isn’t selling tangible merchandise. Tech, software, music, video games all of it but weekly puts and make serious bank
China really fucked themselves in this trade shit

>TFW sold the last 20% of my portfolio in the market & put it in Tennesee Valley Authority Bonds.

>>13708058
the real YANG gang

Gommie faggot, if you are awake:

Can you rerun your inversion bond chart with later start dates?

I wonder if extremely high bond rates of years past distorts the data.

>>13708197
do bonds ever lose you money or are the options limited to;
>bank account tier yield if the economy does well
>capital growth if the economy goes to shit

>>13708286
You can lose money if interest rates rise, because no one would want to spend full price for inferior bonds.

But the odds of interest rates rising are slim.

VTGN

Hmm, after hours it still climbing. Plz hit least $2.30 next week. Sell you and make over double my money. Profit shall be mine. Once I make my Profit you can shit all you like.

>>13704222

Stocks on my screener (Volume based):

Tilray
Halliburton
Teva Pharma
Kraft
Tom Tailor (Xetra - Germany)

Any opinions?

>>13708197
good job anon. you're gonna make it. those were non callable bonds, right?

>>13708286
>>13708311
addendum to that, you only loose money if interest rates rise AND you're selling the bond. You can always hold to maturity if you hold the physical bond.

>>13708369
>You can always hold to maturity if you hold the physical bond.
what if it's a fixed interest etf, a mixture of corporate and treasury bonds?

>>13708390
if its an ETF you will be exposed to price fluctuations, that's just how etfs work.

>>13708359
I had to buy them in a fund (TVC) since this is my IRA account.

>>13708390
>Holding packaged corporate bonds

Yikes anon. I think packaging in shit-bonds with treasuries is analogous to the packaging of shit mortgage debt in 2008.

>>13708422
ah ok, that makes sense. You should be fine, unlike T bonds there's no risk of China dumping or anything

>>13708434
then what about this?

i just want to move my 50k out of shares because i'll likely be buying a house in a few years so i'm investing like a 90 year old

>>13708557
I'm not an expert but seems legit.

You should be able to see an even greater breakdown somewhere to find out if those sovereign funds are for Venezuela or some shit.

>>13705476
Yes! Exciting

>>13708725
it's 100% aus
i'm just wondering if it's even worth holding over cash

> Refresh the thread
> There's no way last post is from hour ago
> Delete cookies change IP start up VM install new browser
> Check the thread
> Last post is from hour ago

>>13709428
spring time, people are sipping beer in the sun / fishing / riding motorbike / riding water jets you should too ;O

>>13709455
> friends
> outside
good yokes m8

>>13707059
It’s the future of forklifts

>>13704318
>100% equity is patrician
based

Nobody goes outside anymore. To many crazy people with guns , Drug dealers, or Pedos roaming around these days. Hell a lot of states now let you carry guns without having to get a concealed carry permit. So you can walk around strapped like they did in the old West days and no one can say shit.

>>13705352
"no"

>>13705476
It's gunna be beautiful

>>13709428
People spend time off 4chan anon
You do have a wife/gf/twinkto spend time with right?

>coke /fulled/ weekend
oh god why it take so long for me notice this
mods pls delete thread and delete me

>>13710413
No, only the barbell.

Here's my chart of the week. Also, silver's been trading very strongly correlated to the dollar the past couple of weeks. This may not hold, but I'd certainly be watching it. Look at the hourly from the past 2 weeks in my next post.

>>13710557

>>13704905

Options are ultra leveraged to the point of massive returns whereas the underlying takes a much longer time to return. Options let plebs control $1,000,000 worth of stock for only a couple hundred/thousand at most.

I swear MarketWatch is literally paid to write nothing but doom and gloom articles. Every time the market dips a bit they spout RECESSION DRUMPFFF CHINA but when the market is good it’s HEY CHECK OUT THIS GUY WHO SPENDS 5K ON HIS PUPPY like seriously nothing ever positive comes from there who the fuck runs that shitshow?

What's the movie tonight?
>Not like I'll be watching it anyways

>>13710920
Doom porn sells.

>>13710920
Sauce since no one else is going to ask

shit, just now realized that i'm old enough to have fathered an 18 yr old kid. Where did the time go? My net worth is only 41k, fuck this shit. I should have least 60k by now. fuck i hate being poor.

guys...is baidu a buy?

>>13711471
At least your career is going well and you’ve found an adequate wife.
...right?

Why is a stock like BKS so worthless? Is it because everyone thinks we're edging up against no one buys books, or is it anti brick and mortar sentiment?

>>13711179
I'll try to do it tonight, 9:00 mountain Time
Prepare for disappointment, but I should get my fair Lady to work

>>13710399
AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH

>>13710573
So, what you’re saying is, let silver come down EVEN MORE as the xinese devalue their currency and raise the international value of the dollar, and THEN buy silver?

>>13711179
>>13711544
I hope we're watching Ben Affleck's The Accountant.

If you weren't able to get that one, is it too late to vote for The Secret of NIMH?

>>13711485
Yeah there's that plus least I ain't in debt aside from house that is.

>>13711573
Wait, you own a house?

Aww you’re cruizing then. Also, normies get out, reeeeee, etc.

>>13711571
If you get it on Google drive and send me a shareable link we can watch that
If you do make sure it's in .mp4 format

>>13711544
You better not fuck it up.

>>13711690
I'm kinda a tard with that stuff. I'll figure it out next weekend. See u at 9

>>13711727
we were close

>>13711727
>>13711760
>the price of SPY in Q2 will be /l5

>>13711179
California really needs to start taxing other states for transporting goods on their roads and highways... California has 3 of the biggest ports in the country... they need to tax every state that uses them.

>>13711781
Did you know they HAVE to go through CA?
Even Hawaiian goods have to go to Californias port before Hawaii’s even though they pass right by the island-and even stop for fuel. So it would be a huge dick move to force use of you port and charge every other state in the country. Places like Hawaii would be really fucked cause they don’t want that ship passing by right now as it is. Thanks to a +100yo agreement this will never change in the Pacific...

>>13711711
Hehe

>>13711781
>Californias are this retarded
No wonder you always vote Dem

“Theleaders of Germany, France and the Netherlands said Thursday that their governments do not plan to follow the leadof the US and banChinese telecommunications company Huawei from involvement in their national 5G high-speed mobile networks”

>>13712053
German Chancellor Angela Merkel saidcompanies could participate in expanding Germany's 5G network if they met established safety criteria.

"For us, the security criteria are the decisive starting point in terms of deciding who will participate in the expansion," Merkel said, adding that the criteria are not directed against individual countries or companies.

Speaking alongside Merkel in Berlin, Dutch Prime Minister Mark Ruttesaid the Netherlands would not excludecompanies in advance of any auction for 5G networks.

French President Emmanuel Macron said separately that it was "not appropriate" to start a trade dispute over technology. The goal is not to exclude Huawei or other companies from network expansionbut to provide the necessary security, he said while atan industry conference in Paris.

The EuropeanCommission, the EU's executive branch, has not told national governments to avoidusing Huawei's5G equipment.

Nevertheless, the General Intelligence and Security Service of the Netherlands has started an investigation into possible "secret back doors" on Huawei products, according to a report in De Volkskrant newspaper.


https://m.dw.com/cda/en/eu-leaders-we-wont-follow-trumps-huawei-ban/a-48768000

>>13712053
wow its almost like the american empire is losing power

just like the roman empire
and the british empire
and the spanish empire
and the chinese empire
and the mongol empire
and the arabian empire

have in the past! be wary when in investing in US index ETFs if you have a 30+ year timespan.

>>13712112
And you would put it where exactly?

>>13711934
you aren't the one that lives here that sees all the shit being transported to and from the port of LA to other states... that computer you are on... probably came through california....

a fucking electric scooter has been beeping for six FUCKING hours on the pavement im bout to toss it to sea good fukckg god give me strength

>>13711886
>So it would be a huge dick move to force use of you port and charge every other state in the country.
why would that be a dick move?? we have a shit load of traffic and fucked up roads because of all the fucking truckers that clog up the roadways to deliver goods to other states.. then other people want to point the finger at california as if they didn't have any part in the destruction of the infrastructure...

pull your head out of your ass kid

>>13711934
>>13711886
I'm going to start a campaign in California to make other states pay taxes to use their roads to transport goods.

Just gotta think of a trip to use on /pol/....

>land a job as a quant because programming is fucking retarded babby shit in my country and the whole fucking nation is just "we don't do real CS here, go web or go home" fucking web shit
>move to a western country I don't even like (Hungary)
>the big bank is killing me, demanding 10% monthly returns on my algo as a fucking junior quant
>don't even care about stress that is probably killing me, the problem is I'm not even making good money (don't fall for /sci/'s >le 300k starting meme)
>finally get some time off to go socialize (only know fellow autismos from the bank here)
>go out with them, chad of the group actually introduces me to some hotties
>one of them is actually a friend of my qtpi neighbour
>take her home, forgot that I left the door to my work room opened
>I had work all over the place (I write down math shit on paper because I waste a lot of time trying to do it on a tablet)
>NO DON'T-
>she sees all the math nerd shit laying around the room and walls
>evening ends prematurely because she thinks I'm insane
>hear my neighbours talking "he's that deranged russian"
>mfw my life is ruined
>mfw not even russian

What the fuck do I do bros?

>>13712419
>LCIguy is a /pol/tard
Go figure

>>13712505
y not just make 10% monthly urself? fugg the banc also maths is toptier and she was a thot. U prolly weirded her out tho with the NO DONT, shouldve been chad and told her u work with a lotta maths for a big investment bank. Then recite obscure theorems and conjectures while u rawdogged

>>13712248
desalination companies and buying real estate inland

>>13712505
Use your algos for crypto

>>13712082
So buy NOK and ERIC and hodl or still no?

>>13712419
Anything that helps collapse California even faster is fine by me. That would help.

>>13712505
things that never happened

post pics of notes

>>13712053
who's the girl?

>>13712505
>Hungary
>western country
I think I found your problem.

>>13710557
>>13710573
One more thought. The gold / silver ratio is at historic highs, so there's probably more than a few funds going short gold, long silver hoping for the ratio to tighten up. Currently gold is remaining steady as a safe haven while silver is losing value as an industrial metal. If the ratio keeps widening, you could see some volatility as funds are forced out of positions.
https://www.kitco.com/Gold_Silver_Ratio_Charts/gold-silver-ratio-charts.html

>>13704364

You're in a bubble buddy. You know a lot of useless shit made up by retarded people in government positions. That's all about to evaporate at a speed you will not be able to comprehend. Accounting in its purest form is so simple anyone with a 110+ IQ can do it. It's just balancing books, which is mostly adding and subtracting. Business units, taxes, all that nonsense is made up by the most useless people in our society who don't want to work so they go in government to make themselves important at gunpoint.

It won't last. Get some real skills, stock up on food and metals. The bubble has popped. Everything you know is worthless and can be done better by computers. You no longer have a function in society in your current state. Prepare.

>>13711471
Ok, the good bits:

1. Zero debt other than house
2. Pension via work that at time of retirement will provide 48k in income (as of now - get Promo or new job at higher pay grade this will go up).
3. 401k also via work - doing good so far, raking in the Profit/Gains.
4. Make just under 27k a year. Wife's Salary brings in a decent haul. State is low col and I live close to work so gas is cheap.
5. Car is recent model and has low miles (under 58k). Paid for. Should last 15 years or more.
6. Wife's car is paid for.
7. Work regs allow for full retirement after 27 yrs. Can use sick time to increase time or cut down time. Get paid for any vacation time up to certain amount.
8. I'll be age 50 at the full 27 year mark. If I use my sick time I can cut that down to age 49 and still draw a full pension. Still get paid for any vacation time to. Medical is also covered. Can also do it the other way, use sick time to bump up my time to 28 years served when I only put in 27. Get higher pension.
9. Brokerage account is funded and ready for action. T babies will provide over 30k in income at age 65. AMRN will provide short term Profits.KDP may make it long term so another income stream. VTGN is another short term Profit play.
10, In general after bills, expenses I'm left with $300 - 400 in extra cash each month. She dumps any extra cash she's got into a high interest savings account.
11. House/Cars/Health (mine and my Wife's)/ Server is all in top shape. So no bad surprises should happen anytime soon.

The bad bits:

1. Gotta wait till age 65 before T babies provide income worth a damn. Early deductions from 401k gets you a "fee" before 59 1/2. Can't do S.S before 65 - 67 without taking a hit there either. So from age 50 I gotta live from pension/savings for 15 years roughly.

2. Wife's car is getting up there in terms of age/mileage. Holding up fine now but she wants to replace it. I tend to agree. At the age where it comes a "money pit".

>>13712300
Seaports are an economic boost you fucking idiot, California is gaining from this

>>13713097
Forgot to add:

At anytime between now and age 50 "Mr Murphy" could strike and cause me lots of financial pain. So my savings now and later could all be wiped out. The alternative would be to go into debt which would get "Mr Murphy" off my back but still I'd have to pay off the debt. Either way I'd be fucked.

>>13712558
>LCIguy browses /pol/
Personally, I'd say that makes him even more trustworthy

>>13713097
>>13713297
is your wife banging hot?
like if you had to chose between your T babies and your wife, which one do you think about more?

>>13713162
>California is gaining from this
thats why california raised the gas tax to pay for roads huh?? the roads that all these other states fuck up when they transport all their shit

Once you actually start to participate in real life issues than you can have an opinion ok comfy.. until then.. just keep delivering pizzas in the middle of potato fields

>>13713609
>Roads wouldn't exist without other states

>>13712419
Cool, I thought I was the only Southern Californian here.

>Ror!
>42 posts by this ID
>30 posts by this ID
>43 posts by this ID
>17 posts by this ID
>51 posts by this ID
>nothing but shit and lci shilling
kys it does not have to be painful just dead would be ok
also Fuck QE

>>13713713
I like the ror poster more than you.

>>13713533
What are T babies

Can someone give me the source for the OP image? Thanks

>>13713713
>bitches about post quality without doing anything to contribute

you first

>scared anxious faggot about to put a lot of money up
>convinced markets gonna shit the bed the second i commit

>>13713814
The irony of your post.

>>13713814
>hundred of shitposts
>2 shitposts

>>13713794
(C87) [Condiment wa Hachibunme (Maeshima Ryou)] Happiness experience 2 (HappinessCharge Precure!) [English] {5 a.m.}

you should know how to use search terms to find this rather quickly
'magical girl drugs english mind break' will find it for you
Also remember you should read Happiness Experience 1 first, and you should really read all the older Maeshima Ryou doujins first. Don't skip to a more recent one

>>13713758
shares of AT&T

>>13713713
wait who hit 51 posts? that's got to be some kind of record

>>13713852
I've been contributing to this thread since before you started trading

>>13704222
>Cryptocurrencies - bullshit internet tokens with no intrinsic value and prices based entirely on arbitrary speculative hype that nobody with any common sense should place large amounts of money into
lost all credibility

>>13713849
read >>13704318

Your primary assumption to be afraid is correct, as the market does have its risks. However, you must do what you can to mitigate those feelings and invest anyways. Failure to do so will result in wageslaving for life.

I think I just met the love of my life.. most beautiful girl I've ever seen big blue eyes.. blonde hair and a sense of humor.. might be the girl I marry... almost speechless..

>>13713651
There's a few of us here I think..

>>13713874
>>13713794
I should mention if you search 'maeshima ryou english drugs' you will get all the doujins he ever did in the vein of the OP image (12+). The non-drugs comics he does are usually more wholesome and I enjoy them. I don't specifically seek out or avoid loli content, but he is one of the more prolific authors that everyone should be able to recognize the art style of.

>>13713852
Based

>>13713297
What is this euphemism you’re always using? Unnamed disaster (medical expenses, etc.?)

>>13713942
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murphy's_law
Mr Murphy is the man who will fuck you up.

Check EIDO (Indonesia market ETF) and EWM (Malaysia market ETF) and tell me why I shouldn't invest in these when they're at the bottom/near the bottom and fairly developed countries with promising futures?

>>13712419
Unconstitutional, anon. One state can't fuck other states over like this. I forget the exact provision on which the Supreme Court has rested its analysis (interstate commerce maybe? can't recall at the top of my head), but this kinda thing isn't allowed. It makes sense in a general way, too, since if states could screw over other states like this then it would hurt national unity.

>>13713971
I'm buying PAK and NGE for similar reasons. They have nice dividend payments (but, only once per year) and from what I can tell, decent upside. They've been down, down, down but I think there has to be some floor there.
I also hold various south American (Arg, Braz) stocks. They've also underperformed, but I still average down slowly. No rush.

Basically no-one knows long-term how the US/rest of developed world/developing world equity price story will play out.
Right now the US and certain non-US stocks are very highly valued, and people seem to anticipate that the US stock market will continue to outperform.

I don't mind holding ~5% developing nation ETFs to see what happens with them. But I don't have the experience or foresight to tell you what will happen. :^/

>>13713876
Shitting up the thread with your retarded shit isn't contributing

>>13714140
Have you had enough gay sex today?

>>13714140
>making on topic posts isn't contributing

>>13714140
Pendulum has been consistently giving factual and/or relevant information regarding GALT, which some of us have positions in. And defends his stock choice when asked about GALT with outside sources and research.

Everyone should shill this way. You, on the other hand, bash stocks for no other reason then that they are mentioned here consistently.

>>13713713
Ah! That's me!!! I have a reputation here!? Ror! I'm also the guy working on the memefolio! Will upgrade to tripfag soon! Love you guys. And yeah, I post a lot. Good at my job. Efficient. Have time to watch markets and post here while working. Plus you guys are entertaining as fuck!

>>13713882
crypto is a hedge against disaster like gold, except unlike gold it'll all vanish when a big solar flare happens, or a big EMP because of a nuclear war, or when somebody invents a quantum computer

>>13713740
Thanks fren!

>>13714184
>>13714201
>>13714313
GALT INCELS ON SUICIDE WATCH
Filtered

>>13714313
Even when Comfy shilled stocks, he never actually gave a coherent reason for it
He would bash other people's picks, provide no reasoning up his own, and claim that he was holding [stock] long term before selling it within a few months at most
Most recent example is BST

>>13713874
Me! I did! Ror ror ror desu! I also do the
>wrong again baggie

>>13714313
All the theses written in the world about galt doesn't change the fact that it's
>A penny stock
>Down 55% on the 5Y
>In one of the most complicated and regulated industries in the world that routinely bankrupt investors over and over again
>Scientific research routinely fails drug trials due to unseen complications
>Pendulum himself has $1,000 in galt only. Read that. $1000. That's fucking nothing.

That's just how it is, anon. And that's why galt is a bad choice.

>>13714324
ror! add AMD!

>>13714373
>>13714313
backing up his own*

>>13713533
The plan is to stuff as much cash as I can in the bank and let everything else (401k/brokerage) just work till age 50. Build up the cash pile so if something unexpected happens the hit won't be to bad (I hope). Between what my Wife has left over and I've got left over each month we'll get her a decent car that won't break the bank yet will do her a long time.

So basically take what we have left over and chop it in half:

Half into the bank
Half going towards the Wife a "new" car.

Zero debt owed on the car is the plan.

>>13714379
your entire post boils down to "I know nothing about biotech and indiscriminately think all biotech stocks are bad choices because of that"

>>13714351
If it hit $3 I'm going all in. That thing is getting bought out.

>>13714392
>I can't debunk your 5 points made in opposition to galt so I'll just say you think biotech is bad and therefore you're bad
Day of the FDA approaches soon.

>>13714373
>>13714382
Imagine SEETHING an this hard over a stranger on the internet

We got a trade deal with Mexico and Canada, my SPY puts are going to be worthless....

>>13714379
Lot of peeps saying that, but I thought /smg/ closed its AMD position. I sure as hell did. Looks like the sentiment is back. Will check again on Monday.

>>13714407
Unironically me to, I've got my limit buys set

>>13714379
>Irrelevant
>Irrelevant
>A sector generality but not specific to the individual stock
>Another generality. No one says it's riskless.
>Irrelevant

>>13714407
Zero reason not to buy at the current levels if you think it's going to be bought out.

>>13714419
You're really fishing for some (You)s today aren't you?

>>13714407
Hmm, after reading the constant talk of GALT and reading other info on it I'd have to agree there is Profit to be made with this one. Won't be able to strike before june 6th though. I'd have to sell my S&P 500 fund shares. No big loss, no commission fees involved and the amount I've over into it is not really much to amount to really anything over the long term.

>>13714484
:3
Yeah I'm pretty bored. I've got a chart of dividend growth stocks I've been accumulating, I've got about 8 out of 20 now
What's next on your SS list? Don't trust LCI at these levels, I might sell puts on something else though

>>13714551
I've got stocks I'm watching but I'm pretty confident about LCI and don't want to tell this thread about other stocks because.. well.. well because most people here are giant faggots. LCI is really good at these levels.. any lower is a steal

>>13714514
May be able to strike sooner but it all depends on VTGN. Right now it's still climbing. If it hits $2.30 next week or the week after I can sell and clear $1042 in Profit. Roll 500 in GALT would give me 166 shares. Be able to dump the other $500 in the bank. Be left with $42 just sitting there.

Why haven't you gotten into Post-Keynesian economics yet, anon?

>>13714551
LCI is gonna shoot up. Too many shorts. High insitutional ownership. Outperforming peers. Only a matter of time

>>13713651
Los angelels sprawl here

>>13713969
That’s pretty much what I guessed. Never heard Murphy personified like that.

>>13714577
LCI probably could gap up. I know your goal of $30 is perhaps a tad... Exaggerated... To get new fags in. $12 or $15 I could probably sell at for a sweet 100% gain

>>13714598
Newfags don't understand how that works.. they're gunna miss out on LCI and scream "hhuurr durr pump and dump" all the way to $100 then once it hits 100 and drops back down to $50 they're gunna scream "hurr durr told you so" lol

I can't wait for the FDA to greenlight AMRN. Insane Profit awaits! For 15 years they and only they will be able to sell/make the drug. Hell Mega Profits. Hello $50 per share price. Come to me oh Buyout at $50 per. I'll see the Profit hits $100 per.

>>13714647
If you weren't so new to small caps you'd know that $30 really isn't that far out of reach especially with this short interest and institutional ownership

>>13714577
checked. I read the balance sheet and filings for LCI the other day. I'm still never gonna buy the stuff, but I don't think it's a bad choice anymore. The lack of clear sales growth and the fact that most assets are intangibles is a little bit uncomfortable for most anons here I presume. I can respect your choice now in committing to LCI, I hope it ends better than big five, but I highly doubt it'll shoot straight up like most people hope it will; most likely just a slow steady climb up. $30 is a pipe dream. Regardless, it is a far superior choice to galt.

How are you anticipating competition with other general pharmas like Amarin and such? Do you think LCI stands a chance in the free market or are you hoping for a possible buyout in the future?

>>13714647
I think $30 is exaggerated, but only slightly. I'm looking at $20-$25. It was trading there when the company was doing very poorly. Large drop gap from 14 to $5, then up again and down from $9. Shorts are heavy heavy heavy. Short squeeze soon. Upon significant news, this stock will rise, shorts will panic and sell which dramatically raises the price to correction levels. Then once the short interest fades, stock rises more as people notice the good track it's on and institutions sell some now, but continue to hold some of their position. Before institutions sell is the time for you to sell, cause once they sell off itll drop slightly again, which is your time to buy back in before it hits $20-$25.

>>13714655
To $100? I can see that, but we're talking long long term holdings. It will land temporarily around 13-16, drop down to between 9 and 10, then shoot up to 20-25. After that it's a general steady climb. How long are you trying to hold? 2 to 3 years? That's about how long itll take to get to $80-90. At least that's what I'm thinking.

>>13714664
Fuck it, what I'll prob do is just sell my S&P 500 shares and if VTGN pans out take half the Profit from that and roll it all into more AMRN during the next dip.

I got 100 shares of AMRN now. I'd be able to add a shit pot more during the dip. Which long term would only generate more Profit for me.

>>13712707

So basically silver is going to go back up once gold gets shorted?

>>13712909
Bubble?

>>13714743
So I'd have
T
KDP
AMRN
Comcast

If the dollar is so strong why is gold not cheaper? It's pretty much been steady.

>>13714775
I hope you're selling calls on that 100 lot of Amarin, anon. Also

>KDP

100% cozy hold. I'd get some myself if the options chain weren't shittier for it.

I hope you bought.

Its only going to the moon

If I can swing it and bag 50 more AMRN, 150 AMRN shares @ $50 per would be $7500. A buyout would then bump that to $15,000

I dunno about anyone else but I'd be happy with either one of those results

>>13714807
>dr pepper knockoffs
>no mr. Pibb
Plebs

>>13714676
How much information have you read on Galt? Are you considering a bad choice due to it being biotech?

I'm in lci and Galt. I'm confident on both but more confident on Galt overall.

Puts on BABA right boyos.... Drumpf will end China next week

>>13714832
15k is little over half what I make in a year in salary btw. (just under 27k before tax/deductions)

>>13714853
>Are you considering a bad choice due to it being biotech

certainly seems to be the case, and his blatant lack of knowledge about healthcare stocks is evident by the fact that he

1. doesn't know the difference between a clinical stage biotech and a generic drug manufacturer
2. doesn't know Amarin is a biotech

>>13714878
Orange man will get a great deal and SPY will go to 320

>>13714895
Better. Fuckkng. Not.

I want my vix to make me some money so I can afford cheapies.

>>13714888
Ror! Looks like a military salary. Those digits tho

>>13714925
Nope, not military. Just a state worker. The plus side is that my job is locked in. Can't be fired unless I really really fuck up (as in cheat on working time basically). The retirement package; 27 yrs in and then out w/full pension & medical. Separate 401k as well. In my case I'll be 50 and done with work. (36 now)

>>13714853
I've read galt's balance sheet and a few articles pendulum has posted here. It's basically a worst version of LCI, and far more specialized, so if it fails, it fails bigly (to be fair, LCI also has no long term investments so they can also fail in a similar fashion). They have their backs to the wall. LCI and galt also have a SHITTON of intangible assets. LCI actually struggles with that more than galt, and they can easily put themselves in a position to where they'll have to file for chapter 7 if they don't stay above water in the short term
>read: every single short-term risk present in the healthcare and biopharma sector
They're both on thin ice, but LCI has a lot more promise.

You can compare that to a company like Amarin (i'd give other examples, but i haven't read any other bio balance sheets). Amarin also has no long term investments, so they also have their backs on the wall. Unlike LCI or galt though, they have zero goodwill and far lower intangibles. They have a lot more leeway of failure and more cash to burn if things go south. They also have far stronger sales growth in their drugs, since they also sell general pharma stuff while developing their ace-in-the-hole.

>>13714914
The crash is priced in now, small specs like you are trapped shorting lol

>>13715010
It sounds like you don't actually know how drug companies or biotech actually operate...

>>13715010
>It's basically a worst version of LCI

they have entirely different business models
like I said, your lack of knowledge about healthcare stocks overall is very obvious

>>13715042
I don't know the FDA pipeline, nor am I a doctor or a pharmacist. Drugs are black magic to me. However, I can read a balance sheet, and the prospects from management in 10-X filings, and look at the stock's pricing history (LCI and Galt are atrocious). And I know to make money, you have to sell shit. Amarin simply sells more shit.

I have nothing invested in either of the 3. That's just what I read on the books.

In the case of AMRN, the drug is already approved for very high risk people. (brink of death type situation). All the latest FDA thing is for is to broaden it out for general use in so called normal people. The sales of it for high risk people is on the upswing by the way.

Mexico & Canada trade deal, we launch off to the fucken moon tomorrow night,

Also as an aside note, since LCIguy and Pendulum are both in it for "the long run" and don't care about short term price action, here's the 5 year stats on each stock:

>Amarin: Up 1097.30% 5 years ago today.
>LCI: Down 83.33% 5 years ago today.
>Galt: Down 55.74% 5 years ago today.
>Vistagen (BONUS PENDULUM SHILL STOCK): Down 90.38% 5 years ago today.

You tell me, which is the better investment? It's nothing personal, but the numbers don't lie.

>>13715080
Balance sheets will differ from sector to sector.. you should read the intelligent investor to give yourself an idea of why some industries may have more debt or how some industries may have more tangible rather the intangible assets.. reading a balance sheet is helpful but in order for it to make sense you have to know the industry and how it operates....

>>13715154
Amarin jumped from being a $3 to a $20 stock based entirely on good clinical trial results
You have no idea how biotechs work, and I don't see why I should take the time to explain it to you

>>13715154
Trends change. Stocks have ups and downs.. if you don't care to learn how small caps work I suggest you stick with something from the s&p500.. small caps aren't for people that don't want to learn and don't want to dig deep to find something new with potential...

>>13712419
Hello Rabbi.
Tax is theft fuck you kike

>>13715182
It's useless with some people. I've see stocks go from $1-$5 range to $10+ many times.. it's not for the weak and impatient that's forsure

>>13715154
>>13715182
take a look at Amarin's all time chart
you would call it a bad investment, but nobody could deny now that buying at $3 was a good idea

>>13715206
biotechs especially are hard to understand and very different from the rest of the stock market
they're not for most people, desu

>>13715206
>>13715228
Who are you trying to convince? Me, or yourselves?

>>13715154
I fucking wish I'd jumped on AMRN when it was just $3. But it could be worse. Least it ain't another "Amazon" type thing with the $1k plus stock price to match. To think; buying 500+ shares with just $1700. 500 x 17 (now) would be $8500 Profit.

At 50 per that same 500 shares would be $25k. The buyout would net you $50k

>>13715235
You're honestly too dense to understand... you're the type of guy that buys at the tops of a long term trend because "past 5 year returns" .. you fomo in.. it drops.. you sell and you sit there scratching your head.. b-but my 5 year chart.. not realizing you literally bought the high.. then when someone points out a chart that's at the bottom of a trend you do the same thing b-but the 5 year trend.. and then you miss out on gains and then fomo in and buy the top..

I've been trading for years and I've seen your kind over and over and over again.. no wonder big banks make so much doing this shit...

>>13715154
Your style of valuation might work well for large cap stocks but not for smaller ones. Especially biotech. To understand why we love GALT you need to know the drug, the potential market, and where they are in the process.

LCI is a tale of lying numbers. It might look like shit til you see the potential in the company being overshorted and yet turning the corner back to a healthier state.

A lot of very pertinent information is not found in the numbers alone.

>>13715228
The funny thing is people think biotechs are the way to riches but it’s literally in their filings and testing where you can see if the drug is novel or just garbage. The problem is most small time investors who aren’t well versed in the Med field don’t understand half of what a biotech filing says so they go by stocktwits bots and seeking alpha articles hoping they aren’t lying and when it tanks they get all pissy they lost thousands when the papers literally showed how far fetched the drug really was

>>13704222
Reminder that you can probably make as many gains or much more in Uber and Pintrest as in any altcoin. PINS can easily do Twitter money and get a 100% and 1000% in options and Uber can do Facebook money for the 400% and 4000% in options. Just saying HAGW

>>13715360
Not without dropping another three bucks
Got a few puts on it for next month and already in the green IPO’s this year have been easy money since none of them make any and only got hyped up by retard journos and millennials

>>13715360
hmmmm
?

I don't know about Uber/Facebook
Facebook can print money and doesn't have to spend money
even in their growth stages they didn't have the costs that Uber and Lyft has, it's not a reasonable comparison
If Uber goes up 400% that's getting to a 350B market cap. dunno about that one any time soon.

Pintrest I dunno, I don't use that. They just get ad money?

>>13715335
Most people who buy into biotechs have no idea just how important it is that a company has a sound scientific foundation supporting the drugs they're developing and obviously have no way of confirming that themselves, like you mentioned

WOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWW I HAD NO IDEA MAN THESE GUYS ARE LIKE GENIUSES FOR FIGURING THIS OUT

Lots of people don't get "compound interest" either. Some dude who starts dumping money into a high yield bank account or Divvy stock at age 20 and keeps at it for 30 - 35 years will be fucking rich as shit by retirement time.

V.S some dude who just starts at age 40, That 40 year old only has 25 years to go till age 65. That means he has to dump a shit pot more money into his accounts each month in order to make up the lost time that the 20 year old has over him. The 20 year old only has to dump a fraction of the money into his accounts that the 40 year old has to.

>>13715467
man I can never decide which I like less: abortion or poor people
like if we just sterilized 'em it would kill two birds ya know


>>13715483
big brain
zoomers don't understand until it's too late


also zoomers will never understand this BLAZING hot solo by my man Johnny Sco at 10 minutes in:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E57ZLHd5g_g

>>13715467
And the other half are morally abject degenerates

>>13715411
Doesn’t mean you can overlook management, marketing, sales.

>>13715012
>comfy AND rkg now hating on me
>pendulum thinks I’m comfy when I really just want him not to end up a robot

>>13715467
And next on MarketWatch
Water it wet. News at 10

>>13714757
That would be ideal for the spread trying to narrow the ratio, but they could easily both move down together and if silver keeps falling faster the ratio keeps getting wider causing more silver liquidations. And they do tend to move together.
>>13714789
I think there is a reluctance to take large short gold positions with everything going on regardless of the dollar.
>>13711561
The comparison with the dollar chart was mostly just to highlight that you would need the dollar to play along with any silver position you took. Unless the correlation breaks down of course.

>>13715526
>>13715335
>>13715411
That is true, having good management and an advantage over the competition is important as well
It's impossible for a biotech to succeed without science backing it up though, and that's a fact

Do you fine gents have your silver in physical metal, an ETF, or invested more indirectly via mining companies?

>>13715526
management yes, but marketing and sales no
for a company in the purely research stage like GALT, they might never sell a single product.
If they get bought by/partner with a big drug seller, the partner will be the seller/manufacturer. Because they already do that.
That's how most of these things go.
Very few (like, NONE) of the little research-stage biotech companies have the goal of being an in-house show where they do everything from inventing to selling a drug. that makes about as much sense as a drug company hiring a thousand doctors to administer the drug.

the only marketing and sales a company like GALT needs is to sell themselves to another company like the spicy little whore they are

>>13715568
physical silver and gold
SLV and GDX in smaller dollar amount

>>13715578
And how do you store your physical silver? Considering buying my first few ounces this week to slowly accumulate (poorfag)

>>13715640
It's in my closet.
I only have a few pounds of silver
The gold is hidden a little better

I have my own house, I could get a safe, but rather just hide valuables well enough.

>>13715568
>>13715578
>>13715640
I don't think I'll ever understand extreme metal hoarders... if shtf ammunition and deodorant will be the most valued currencies. Sure, you can trade gold, but man, a bullet will keep your family safe.

>>13715660
I'm a schizo epileptic, but at least I'm not a gay moron, which is nice

>>13715660
Uhoh I have the big gay

>>13715660
I'm not extreme, it's less than 10% my net worth, probably closer to 5%.

how much productive land and water access do you own buddy?

>>13715692
I've got about an acre of backyard, more if I'm allowed to form a coalition with my neighbors, and I pump my own water from a dug-in well in my property.

Is very nice and cozy. Statistically would not survive a shtf though, even with my gunz.

>>13715660
Wanting some precious metals as an investment is not "extreme metal hoarding." The price of silver is low af right now.

Well folks I think the cat is outta the bag. Just checked the AMRN website. Seems the drug has FDA approval now. Even launched a TV ad for it.

So, something is cooking. Mega Profits I hope

>>13715721
I’ve also been considering putting 10% of my holdings in gold, never know when things gonna go crazy and you might want some gold, either because everything else loses value or gold surges in value. Lots of central banks stocking up on gold.

Silver seems good too. But o don’t really have anywhere to keep it besides a safety deposit box.

NEW

>>13715656
>>13715656
>>13715656

>>13715768
You know anon, I think they make pills or something that helps you not to come so early or something like that.

>>13715768
yo we're at 257 posts

I'm boycotting that thread
try again at 310 posts

>>13715768
kys

>>13715790
no idea why people make threads that early

>>13715984
I think many people get super excited about /smg/ threads
they just want to make nice /smg/ posts with all their favorite /smg/ posters

maybe... they cannot restrain themselves from posting /smg/

>>13716021
it would be nice if that was the case, but sadly I don't think it is with everyone
I think the guy who made this early thread just wanted the OP to be a NAK edition

>>13712909
>prepare
Still overweight on OLN?

>>13710573
the dolla was jerk this week
it was starting look like dolla wasnt going to throw weight around this month butt guess it needed knock some head around

idk why people even talk about silver