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Unironically how do I get over my moral imperative to help people and not fuck them over so that I may become a cutthroat capitalist? My brain won't let me do it. I can't fuck people over in the name of profit.

>> No.13654431

kys. ure worthless

>> No.13654453

>>13654431

I know. One day...

>> No.13654466

You are helping people, your family, or future wife and kids, these worthless npcs deserve to be separated from their money

>> No.13654476
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>>13654419
come towards the light, OP

>> No.13654499

>>13654476
>Hidden hand
What did he mean by this /biz?

>> No.13654520

This is a meme propagated by literal Soviet and Chicom demoralization propagandists.

To be successful as a capitalist you have to be someone who is able to make many people happy or invest in a product or service that benefits the lives of others

>> No.13654562

>>13654419
It’s in nobodies nature to fuck over their own kind (unless you are a nigger subhuman). The reason why (((capitalist))) seem to be able to do it so easily is because they are actually not fucking over their own, they are fucking over us.

Never fuck over your own people, only fuck over your enemies. Learn how to out Jew the Jew.

>> No.13654588

>>13654419
>help people
by being respectful of other peoples' privacy and independence
by not using guilt as leverage
by advocating for your customers

>I can't fuck people over in the name of profit.
Correct

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>>13654520
This. Trannypol's capitalism fud is fucking pathetic as always.

>it's bad that a CEO's salary is $100 per employee per year
>it's good that the government takes $10,000 from that same employee (+7% of whatever that employee's wage is more from the company he works for in the form of payroll taxes) because "muh roads"

>> No.13654644

>>13654419
You unironically shouldn't change. It's not worth it if If there's a God or we're living in simulation controlled by "Gods". TNo matter what discount rate you use, the present value of eternal suffering is -$∞. You can be a great capitalist without trying to fuck other people over. In fact, you can make the world a better place. Create net value for society and capture some of it through profits.

>> No.13654653

Once you get fucked badly enough in life you will be able to fuck others easily because you will perceive their fucking as nothing compared to what you have endured.

>> No.13654666
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>>13654608
>>13654520
t. jews
>Let us consider the actual, worldly Jew – not the Sabbath Jew, as Bauer does, but the everyday Jew. Let us not look for the secret of the Jew in his religion, but let us look for the secret of his religion in the real Jew. What is the secular basis of Judaism? Practical need, self-interest. What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money. [...] The Jew has emancipated himself in a Jewish manner, not only because he has acquired financial power, but also because, through him and also apart from him, money has become a world power and the practical Jewish spirit has become the practical spirit of the Christian nations. The Jews have emancipated themselves insofar as the Christians have become Jews. [...] In the final analysis, the emancipation of the Jews is the emancipation of mankind from Judaism.
- Karl Marx

>> No.13654716

>>13654419
Were you raised by a single mom by any chance.

>> No.13654726

>>13654419
They're gonna give their money to someone. Might as well be you. Convince yourself you can do more with the cash than the other chump(s).

>> No.13654741

>>13654419
You have to help people to make money in capitalism. Dipshit

>> No.13654756

>>13654666
You know Marx was a jew, right?

>> No.13654777

>>13654666
checked, satan
also, have a source for this quote?

>> No.13654779

>>13654756
>Jews can't dislike Jews
Ok bud.
Its well known that Marx was an antisemite.

>> No.13654788

>>13654419

Capitalism isn't about fucking people over, it is about creating value, doing things that people want to give you money for. Just do something someone values

>> No.13654797

>>13654777
On the Jewish Question by Karl Marx

>> No.13654800

>>13654779
Ok pal. Communism is the jewish faith incarnate. You will hang with your jewish pals.

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>>13654520
Sorry, I should have been more specific. All the films you see about this stuff are made in Hollywood which was controlled by the Soviet Union at one time, and was literally funded by the USSR to portray things in a specific light for political reasons. This has gone on since the 1930s. Even It's a Wonderful Life is a Soviet funded propaganda piece

https://www.ripleys.com/weird-news/fbi-wonderful-life/

>> No.13654878

>>13654827
Frank Capra (the fucking director) was a right-wing Republican.
The only source in that article is an analysis by an FBI agent wherein no evidence is cited whatsoever.
What the actual fuck are you talking about nigger

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>>13654878
Whoops what's this
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>> No.13654901

>>13654419
Unironically buy the top of this crypto run and hold it forever watching your money bleed away until you're a thin husk of the anon that you once were

>> No.13654929

>>13654419
Just buy BSV and make money the honest way. The fact that there's a certain fold in your brain matter that makes you behave with "morals" and integrity does not preclude you from financial succes.

>> No.13655224

>>13654898
I love how that commie faggot stopped posting as soon as you posted the chink-pasta.

>> No.13655260

>>13654562
This this this

>> No.13655281

>>13654562
This. Help and network with upstanding white people, fuck over traitor/leftist whites, and jews.

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>>13654520
Yup. Prove him wrong.

>> No.13655304

Give your money to someone who will. Make sure they're legally obligated to return your money with interest/profit, though.

>> No.13656265

>>13655224
He was a Chinese psyop shill-poster here specifically to propagate Communist demoralization. If you post that they get pulled away from their assignment

>> No.13656853

>>13654476
>his philosophy killed 100+ million people
>morally good
Go back to plebbit

>> No.13656878

>>13654419
cut your foreskin off

>> No.13656886

>>13654779
Why would I believe a jew when he tells me they're all evil liars?
I think I'll stick with Hitler instead of your jew whose ideology fucked everything.

>> No.13656902

>>13654419
you wouldn't have that problem if the only person you were fucking over was your forex broker.

theres nothing wrong with getting rich off providers of liquidity.

>> No.13656917

>>13656886
>t. "all jews are evil" cuck pagan

>> No.13656937

>>13654898
are people in china just not allowed to see this shit? or what why does this piss chinese people off so much? and before anyone asks i know about the history of it all i just want to know why it pisses them off

>> No.13656943

>>13654419
Check out my /biz/ library sociopath section:
Bizpill.online/sociopathy

Ive cataloged the pertinent tldr of the ricky gervais principle and some other stuff about hominid neural circuitry from ra wilson you may find helpful

>> No.13656990

>>13656937
>I already know all about it
>please tell me about it again so I can understand

>> No.13657582

>>13656853
muh 100 gorillion

>> No.13657870

>>13654499
he pulled out a gun and shot the photographer after

>> No.13658079

>>13654779
Even Bobby Fischer recognized that jews are worst cancerous plague of our society and existence in general

>> No.13658251

Hi, OP. Firstly, how old are you?

In my teens and early adulthood I was like you, I never took from anyone (even if it was offered) and I gave anything people wanted. I was meek, retiring and never "took part", out of a fear of influencing or manipulating someone. Girls (perhaps the most important resource of all) would come and give me a chance to take them, and I would politely ignore it an not do anything, because of course taking things from people is BAD. In this way, I pissed off a lot of people in my town and those girls now hate me.

With jobs, I graduated with a very good degree but avoided any normal job because I didn't want to do anything that, I thought, made the world worse. And I thought most things made the world worse. Anything to do with technology, absolutely (polluting, brain-destroying, social-destroying) or anything to do with finance, etc.

Instead, I did hippy non-jobs and lived very cheaply.

Gradually, this perspective started to change. My mechanism of change may be different to yours and it was complex and had many different causes*

Skipping forwards a few years, I now have my own set of moral codes. In crypto, I have no issue whatsoever with outright SCAMMING people, because I believe that in this game, in this system, anything goes - and we all know what we're doing. I have dumped on people are probably destroyed them, killed projects after pumping them with my lies. I have no issue with that, the same has happened to me and we're in this to compete with each other for coins, that's all. We all know it's bullshit in the end. It's like being in an MMA fight but afraid to hit the other guy in case you hurt him. THAT'S WHAT HE'S HERE FOR. The same goes for most business situations.

>> No.13658254

continued...

Your opponent is there by choice, in an attempt to compete with you (or possibly cooperate, against others) and it's up to you to either do your best, or quit altogether.

As far as I can tell, being in this society today or being alive at all, is all about competition. Compete for women, compete for money, compete for everything. When you are a healthy man this is the most natural thing in the world, and even when you lose it kind of feels good because at least you were there, where you belong, trying.

*for example, if you were to inject Testosterone this week, your moral attitudes on a lot of matters would change just from that, you see? These things are affected strongly by our health and hormonal state.

>> No.13658279

Define “fucking people over.”

>> No.13658282

>>13658251
I'm not OP, but saying "I overcame my victimization of the world by becoming a snake oil salesman" wouldn't really give me a vote of confidence that you can be profitable without being an asshole.
>>13654520 Is right, or is at least how I function. Looking at shitty services or businesses and then trying to offer a better solution at a socially optimal profit isn't really a terrible thing to try and strive for.

>> No.13658298

>>13656265
What in the fuck

>> No.13658340

>>13658254
this is an unhealthy mindset though. I've always been pretty adept with computers/software. Taught myself to code when I was 15 and been doing it ever since. Does that mean I'd be right to use what I know to steal from you? Just use a 0day to hop onto your network and empty out your wallet/bank? If everything is a competition then it is entirely your fault for not being as good (or better than) I am at securing your system correct? Your worldview is that of a sociopath anon, and I'll have no part in it.

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>>13654898
>>13655224
>>13656265
Whatever you say, autists
>>13656886
>>13658079
I empathize with NatSoc anons but the the racial stuff just serves as a distraction. It's classic divide and conquer. CIA has funded many right-wing ethnonationalist uprisings around the world because it makes easier to subvert those countries and convert them into puppets for unfettered capitalism/international Jewry. Why do you think every single public figure is assassinated once they start trying to bring the races together? Once you stop focusing on race and start attempting to form a poor people's coalition, you will be murdered by the State.
>>13658340
Like it or not, that anon is correct. This is the function of capitalism. All social relationships are predicated on the ability to accumulate capital at all costs. There are few legitimate social bonds formed in this capitalist oligarchy because our economic system encourages a culture of sociopathy, narcissism and consumerism. We cannot self-actualize and reach our potential in this world. Neo-darwinian philosophy is so pervasive that it blinds us to what really matters.
With that being said, do what you must to survive.

>> No.13658518

>>13655288
based as fuck

>> No.13658543

>>13654419
simple. you create value in the marketplace and get rewarded for it. thats what capitalism is all about. of course a filthy communist would never understand

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Join the BTC cult.

>> No.13659201

>>13658340

Entirely up to you, sir. I wouldn't steal from people, personally, but you may wish to do so.

Your arbitrary example of hacking and robbing people seems somewhat out of place.

OTOH, you would happily compete with another man for a job opening in your field, right? You would attempt to present yourself as the better candidate.

I assure you, everything we do is in competition. I was very detailed in explaining why in crypto, for instance, it's OK to shill/lie/dump on people. Because we're all in here and we know the game and we're risking our money for the chance to make more.

By putting my money in a bank I am saying "I don't want to play this game, please leave me out of it," and personally I would respect that and leave that person's money alone.

You may wish to use your hax0r skills to do otherwise, but that's up to you. We all have different boundaries.

>> No.13659224

>>13655288

mfw I realise I might be a Jew.

>> No.13659324

>>13654666
Satan they are your underlings so why tf do you complain.

>> No.13659575

>>13659224
You're either a jew or a sociopath.

>> No.13659663

>>13654419
Read Adam Smith's Theory of Moral Sentiments

>> No.13659823

>>13654419
There are predators and prey. If you don’t feed on the weak someone will feed on your hopes and dreams.

>> No.13659948

>>13659201
While you are correct that there are no universal laws (like in physics) that ban you from raping, murdering, pillaging or frauding. Doing any of these without any conscience probably makes you a sociopath or similar.

By refusing to follow any sort of laws or principles (e.g. NAP), you can expect others to do the same to you. E.g. someone murdering you for frauding them.

You are probably scarred from your early life and I'm sorry for that - I can relate to some of it - but your behaviour is cringy. I suggest you use your cryptogainz to see a psychiatrist. Juice up if your not man enough to do it.

jeez, my post is cringy as well

>> No.13660102

>>13659948
>jeez, my post is cringy as well

Yes pretty cringy especially since you seem to have not even read my post at all before replying.

>>13659948
>By refusing to follow any sort of laws or principles

What are you even talking about. The only laws I've broken are speeding/motoring offences, and I suppose I've possessed drugs as well.

"refusing to follow any sort of laws or principles"

kek

>>13659948
>you can expect others to do the same to you

I certainly do, and if you can for a moment limit your wild imagination (brb raping people) to crypto, that I've been talking about, I ABSOLUTELY expect people to 1) shill me their crap and 2) dump on me if I fall for it/buy at the wrong time.

It's the game we are all playing and we know we're playing it, willingly. As I said before, I have my own set of morals in this game. Examples:

> someone from a discord sent me $40,000 of a coin so that I could sell it for him and return him the ETH. I'd never met the guy, he just trusted me, and I sent it back in full.

> OTOH, I will load up on a shitcoin and then post whatever crap is necessary on this board to try and make people buy it. If they do, willingly, then that's fine by me, and I will sell to them.

You may have different attitudes towards those situations, who knows.

>>13659948
>You are probably scarred from your early life and I'm sorry for that

No I was raised by two loving parents who are still happily married, in a good home and went to a very good school, and I have nothing but positive memories and good will towards people. Hence my particularly noble beliefs about how to behave towards people, in contrast to your predilection towards rape and murder*
*intentional misinterpretation of what you're saying, in the hope that you were merely doing the same.