/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>13573640
makes ya think

Fortunately, it was his dad's money.

All part of the plan. From $1 billion in the hole to somewhere between $3 and $7 billion. Based.

>>13573652

A smart man right there. American #badass Can lose it all and still get on top. GRAB EM BY THE PUSSY

>>13573640
Only wagecucks (see: rent seekers and parasites) would ridicule someone for taking risk with their money and losing it.

>>13573640
nothing new

>>13573640
Sounds like the tears of a jealous, impotent person. He may have lost more money, but that's because he had more money to throw around. "When the playing field changes, you gotta do whatever you gotta do to keep your dick up." Now, he's the president.

>>13573640
And he made a lot more than almost anyone too. Rich people also are good at making a profit appear as a loss for tax reasons. Dumb normies just don't know how money works on a large scale like that and think he has to treat his money the same as they do with their weekly $300 wagebitch paychecks.

Imagine still crying over his victory like a little bitch

So many people in here to support this man. Such snowflakes. Cant hear one bad thing about him wothout getting their feeling hurt. Lol.

>>13573679
This

>Haha yeah this guy is a billionaire but looky looky he lost some millions right here looks like hes a big dumb dumb poo-head :-)

Why do normies do this?

>>13573679
You mean his daddy's money, he'd be a car salesman at best without the silver spoon. Dude's a retard and he's funded by russia now, his son admitted it.

How can you not have more respect for the guy hearing this? The vast majority of people, myself included, would give up when being hundreds of millions of dollars in debt. It's a huge testament to Trump's fortitude and intelligence that he didn't just fade into history and become forgotten.

>>13573640
Trump is going to win in 2020. Articles like this won't save the left from eating their own.

Let's just hope the losers won't start a civil war, way more crazy people on the left than the right.

>>13573804
Oh man you called us snowflakes. Well trolled maam

>>13573676
They let you.
[rages]

>>13573640
top JUST

>>13573640
the NYT did not have a problem with it back in the 90's

>>13573832
Stay mad and stay poor. No proof of collusion and he's still richer than you'll ever be.

>>13573640
I bet it's not percent wise just the amount
not taking into consideration how much he invested

>>13573832
Yikes

>>13573858

Maga fags always cry so hard like this when amyine points out anything wrong with Trump lol
Its okay sweetie i remember when i was young and looked up to politicians too. You'll grow up some day. Maybe have an idea of your own.

>>13573949
Based

>>13573957
Nothing I said was untrue. Wake up buddy, you're being conned.

Fuck me I wish my dad was as rich as daddy Trump lol.

>>13573804
>btfo
>deflect deflect

Imagine never having to worry about fucking up because you'll still be rich as fuck no matter what lol

>>13573981
Ridiculing someone for taking risk with their money and losing it is the same *logic* as ridiculing a soldier for risking their life and losing a limb. See >>13573679

Stay mad wagie

>>13573837
Based

>>13574005

People replying to me are coping so hard. Fact is you got your feelings hurt because someone said something bad about a dude youve never met. Imagine being that wrapped up in someones life that doesnt know you exist. Makes me think maybe you might not have much of a life of your own lol
Snowflake living vicariously through a fat old rich man. What a life.

>>13573837
Normies at work laugh at me when they find out how much I lost in crypto, but I still never give up trading, losses are a lesson to be learned.

>>13573949

>report on event
>"OH MAN LOOK TACIT APPROVAL"

Please, stop.

>>13574060
Normies wouldn't even risk it in the first place.
Good on you.

>>13574097
No, they'd spend their paychecks on weed, tattoos and video games. I don't get why losing on an investment is worse than sinking it into 5-minute pleasures.

>>13574098
trying this hard

>>13573679
Exactly. Only subhumans with a slave mentality think this is something shameful.

>>13573740
Absolutely this. Those limp-dicked wagecucks are ignorant af. Brainlets dig those normie memes.

>>13573652
he was bailed out by the rothschilds,now hes paying his debt

1985 was a rough year.

T. I'm old

Those liberal tears are going to taste oh so good when he wins again in 2020

>>13573640
>didnt pay taxes for 8yrs
>people asked how and why
>trump: its because im a genius, and genius' win
>when in reality he was a loser who lost so much money annually he failed to be taxed
no wonder he hid that shit so hard, wew lads....

How to be rich and not pay taxes: "lose money"
Guess who's rich and doesn't pay taxes?
That's right you fucking faggot, Trumps been just fucking your shit up and grabbing your mother by the pussy since the mid 80s

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-says-xi-wrote-him-beautiful-letter-as-trade-talks-begin-2019-05-09

>>13574057
>inane leftist ramblings from a bottom tier smear merchant rag
>leftists eat it up with their deranged and uncritical minds
>leftist comes here and thinks he has some juicy checkmate
>proceeds to get btfo to the point of eviseration with near zero required effort
>leftists think this triggered the thinking men because he needs that to not feel like a complete dumbfuck
sorry faggot, looks like this just isn't your day

if he had put all his inheritance in the boomer stock index in 1985 he would have at least 5 billion today. just let that sink in

Lumpfb's only big flop was going in so hard on Taj Mahal. He really wanted it to succeed and got fucked.

>>13574607
Investable indexes didn't exist then, you stupid faggot

>>13574640
>dow jones didn't exist back then
imagine being THIS dumb

>>13574057
Cope

>>13574666
>he thinks you can "buy" the DJIA

Kek

>>13574674
>get caught saying dumb bullshit
>immediately doubles down on dumb bullshit
no wonder you like trump

I like how the new york times reported 20+ year old news as if it was a "bombshell" report. Wasn't it public knowledge that Trump went broke and had bankruptcies? I remember being a little kid and hearing about that a very long time before he was president.

The new york times even wrote articles in the 90s about how he went broke and made a come back.

>>13573640
Amazon never makes a profit
Sears will take them to the cleaners no doubt

>>13574640
>>13574674

Not original replier but. You honestly don't realize how dumb you sound? Do you even know what a stock index is?

>>13574640

>>13574701
Yeah, it was known. No matter how you try to spin it, Trump has done well for himself. I don't know why they keep trying this angle of attack. If they want us to believe that Trump, a billionaire, is a joke with money, what does that say about most people? Something like 40% of Americans have a negative networth.

https://www.chicagobusiness.com/commercial-real-estate/zell-trumps-tax-records-are-irrelevant
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-is-justified-in-saying-that-his-billion-plus-of-tax-losses-may-not-have-been-financial-2019-05-08
"Billionaire investor Sam Zell dismissed President Donald Trump’s tax records as irrelevant, saying that as a fellow real estate developer in the 1980s and ’90s, he used some of the same deductions to report losses.

“Absolutely, as did every other real estate investor in the United States,” Zell said in an interview on Bloomberg Television from the SALT conference in Las Vegas.

Trump’s tax returns “don’t tell much of a picture” about the success of his business, and following the cash flow would be more relevant, Zell said.

“For a real estate guy to have huge deductions, who owns a lot of brick-and-mortar, is not unusual,” he said."

>>13574592
Im sorry i hurt your feelings really i am.

>Mueller report JUSTED
>Economy BOOMING
>Approval RISING
>China DYING

ehhh uh q-quick we need a new slant Ira Sheklingberg!!

>umm... let's rehash a story about his real estate losses during a RE downturn back in the fucking 80's

>>13574831

Are they going to point out that Donald Trump went out of his way to put a hard cap on the SALT deduction, thus elminating this loophole? You know the phrase "it takes one to know one"? Well he's undoing all of the scummy free lunches as POTUS now.

Imagine looking at a man so succesful, leaving several high tier real estate projects behind around the world, which millions of people will make use of. Imagine a name that will be known centuries from now. And to top it off, this man becomes US president, leaving in the dust several candidatez backed by billions.
Now imagine the level of cope to call this man a loser. That's some disgusting C O P E.

>>13573679
I love you teacher Taleb. Hopefully /biz/ helps you out with your daily boredom avoidance. May Deadlifts squid ink and Phoenician wine be With you sir.

>>13574057
>"LOL, TRIGGERED"
Leftist projection is so transparent. it's amazing to see a living being (term used loosely) with so little self awareness.

>>13574911

They co opt every single term and phrase making fun of them without coming up with anything themselves. Literal cancer people.

Everyone in this thread is stupid and wrong.

He obviously didn't lose any money at all.

He wrote on his taxes that he lost money so he didn't have to pay any taxes.

You absolute morons.

Learn about business before you post in BIZ.

Jesus Christ.

>>13574399

>>13574899
Can't believe it took this long for someone to point out the Taleb reference. Based and checked.

>>13573640
WHAT THE FUCK? Why is his hair nigger? He's aryan like me, blonde and beautiful, this fucking image has to be shooped 4 MORE YEARS

He also made more Money Than pretty much money than anyone in America

>>13574867
Why would Jews try to make their loyal puppet lose? He's literally their biggest paypig.

Isn't it funny how leftists now hate innocent jews and Israel after they've proven to be our greatest ally? We rationally changed our opinions of them once we saw that they were good guys all along, entirely organically, and left then starts hating them unorganically just to be against us.
But the best part is, it shows that liberals literally want to ruin our allies if they show sanity and support for /ourguy/
Feels good to be winning so much bros.

>>13573640
>>13573640
no he lost the money of investors primarily banks who only gave trump loans based on his shilling of his brand name.

>>13574305
Yeah, ever since the cryptoboom of '17 all the migapede boomers invaded to make cash from "this bitcorn thing"

>>13575305

Nah. 75% of American Jews vote Democrat and the mass establishment media lobby (especially the ultra Jewish NYT) has been railing against him constantly. Ashkenazi American Jews =/= Israeli Nationalist Jews.

>>13574097
Absolute bloody moron and a newfag who don't understand why btc hit 20k

>>13575403
Ah yes, jews in Israel weren't zionists after all now that they love him.

Also how many real estate devs don't report losses through all the tax incentives?

>>13574945
This, and even when the term itself was cringey to begin with, they run it into the ground long after those who originally used it have mostly moved onto something else, the lack of self-awareness is baffling

>>13575438
Exactly.

Cry Cry little libcucks.

Maybe Elizabeth Warren will beat Him in an election in 2020? hahahahahaha

>>13575403
>ultra jewish NYT

>>13575430

I don't care about Jews in Israel, I care about the ones here in the US that actively undermine and subvert the country and its interests. The ones that are heavily leftist.

>>13576649

50% of their writers are Jews. Go to their page right now and click on random articles, every other one will be a Jew. Modern American Jews don't care for Israel, they've gone full globalist.

>>13576669
so let me get this straight.. Jews hate Israel so we need to team up with our greatest ally Israel in order to beat Jews?
Imagine the mental gymnastics you guys must go through to actually believe this

was reading a Howard Stern interview earlier:
>"My theory about Donald, having spent some time with him — don’t forget Donald was at my wedding, and I was at one of his — is that deep down he did not want to be President. It was a publicity stunt.."
a theory I'd share. He accidentally made it to the very top, then sat there, paralyzed in the knowledge, there is (literally) no-one else in charge
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/05/09/magazine/howard-stern-change.html

>>13576696

We aren't "teaming up" with Israel. And yes, there is a difference between Israeli Jews (who are currently very right wing and nationalistic) and American (Ashkenazi) """Jews"""" (basically just mutts who are all in a big crony nepotistic cult)

It's all right there for you, plain as day faggot. The stats don't lie, 70+% of them vote for Democrats as they have for decades. Notice these media kikes are silent when Omar or Tlaib go on the pulpit and lambast Israel.

>>13576787

He's wanted to be President for decades. Being stunned by actually accomplishing your life's goal isn't the same as not wanting or being up to the task... he's very much been up to the task. He's endured endless bombardment from the media and an unprecedented investigation for no reason, taken the hits and rolled with the punches.

The guy may be a dick and communicate himself poorly but one thing is sure to me, he's a battler and he does put America's interests first. Past Presidents would have absolutely bent to the negative PR. Remember when Bush tried to roll out meager steel tariffs on China and buckled in a matter of a year after the pressure on him for it?

>>13576819
>there is a difference between Israeli jews and ashkenazi Jews
you realize more than half of Israeli Jews are ashkenazi right?

and Evangelical Zionists always vote republican and are the biggest Trump supporters.. wonder why

>>13576874

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/09/how-the-faithful-voted-a-preliminary-2016-analysis/

Just stop lying please. I don't even get the angle.

>>13576908
you literally proved my point. Evangelicals always vote republican. Evangelicals are literal Zionist jew cock suckers. GOP is the party of Zionism

itt: cognitive dissonance

>>13576953

No I didn't you thick fucking faggot. The large majority of Jews vote Democrat (70+%). Your stupid ass shifting goalposts (Look!!!! This subset of Jews doesn't!!!!) doesn't matter.

The subversive, globalist, sell out, greedy kikes in the cities and media are the problem, and they are the ones voting Dem in numbers. I couldn't give less of a lovely little mother fuck about what's happening with Israel when my own country is under direct assault from this group.

>>13576988
haha yeah bro, we need to support Zionism to beat those evil secular Jews! I get it now! Go Zionism!!!

>>13574607
He didn't get all of his inheritance until 1999. He wasn't an only child either.

>>13574754
Rofl, done well for himself? He hasn’t done anything but lose money...his father did very well for himself....trump just happen to win the genetic lottery. Good for him I guess...someone has to win but “did well for himself” is a poor choice of words.

>all the absolute mouthbreathing retards itt and in the news thinking he actually "lost" all that money
wish I could go through life being this blissfully unaware of how the world works

>>13577249

On the """"""business"""""" board of all places

>>13577249
He could have made alot more money if he had simply held instead of blowing it off.

>>13573640
He owes the jews a lot then.

>>13573661
citation needed, 99% sure he's just lying about that too

>>13577261
this.
losing money is good business
going bankrupt is genius
supporting Israel is beating the Jews
hiring goldman sachs jews is draining the swamp

your brain on gaslighting

>>13576988
As if voting republican or dem saves us from being owned. The only way to win is not to play.

>>13577324

$1.00 has been deposited into your account

>>13577344

No, you always vote pragmatically and for the lesser evil. Always.

>>13573679
until you realize he lost money with literal casinos

>>13577370
3 shekels deposited in your shekel box

>all the defense to the orange buffon

WTF IM IN /POL!!!???

>>13577415

t. David Shareblueowitz

>>13577436

>>>/r/politics

>>13577440
How's weather in Tel Aviv this time of year Moishe?

>>13577453

It's amazing how you think cherrypicked meme pics beat raw, hard data and stats. Almost like you're a paid shill, or a fucking retard. Don't know which is worse

>>13577474
yeah.. I cherry picked hundreds of photos of pro-Trump signs in Israel...

and you keep telling us that Israel is our ally and ourguys.. I wonder who is the shill here

>>13577474
Are you saying supporting Israel is somehow defeating the Jews?

>>13573679
This is how bad entrepreneurs including taleb cope

>>13577321
>99% sure he's just lying about that too
So much this.. Trump lies about anything, he has been claiming since 2017 that he is the President of the united states. Like wtf!?

>>13576953
I love it when kikes call out the Don for being a Zionist. Keep being mad!

>>13577507
Israel is pretty based.. The US relationship with Israel is however pretty odd..

>>13573640
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=67&v=jx9cMuMb2pk

>About 13 years ago I was seriously in trouble
>I was billions of dollars in debt
>But I fought back and WON, big league!

Donald already revealed all this in the opening of The Apprentice. The illegally published tax returns are just confirming in detail what he said.

Basically they're trying to smear the duly elected president by turning his triumphs and qualities of perseverance and deal-making into negatives.

>>13578485
>>13578485
this. Israel and Zionists are ourguys, thats why kikes hate Israel. I stand with Israel

>>13578392
Unironically it's better to be a failed entrepreneur than a wagecuck.

>>13574057
The Mental state of this post is literal cringe. How bottom of the barrel can you get? A bottom feeder eating Neet shit? Sad is an understatement

>>13578492
COPE

I'm a CPA.

>>13575354
The left was always against a religious ethnostates that's extremely militaristic. It goes against the whole egalitarian thing that's literally what "politically left" means. Centrists (and done weird far right guys that want to get rid of yes by giving them a country in the desert) have always been the supporters of Israel

>>13575354
The left was always against a religious ethnostates that's extremely militaristic. It goes against the whole egalitarian thing that's literally what "politically left" means. Centrists (and some weird far right guys that want to get rid of jews by giving them a country in the desert) have always been the supporters of Israel

>>13573740
They can't say he's moving all of his money off shore and reporting loses to avoid taxes because they themselves would be exposed.

>>13574754
They want the magic bullet of showing that Trump is currently not a billionaire since it would imply consistent losses, but they can't get access to that so instead they're trying to trick morons by bringing up shit from 30 yrs ago.

>>13574592

Rent Free 24/7 occupation of the shitlib "brain"

>>13577190
>He hasn't done anything but lose money
Undeniably wrong. No denying he had a nice start (to say the least) thanks to his dad, but he's increased his wealth massively from what his father gave him. He also built a successful brand and managed to become president.

>Trump starts with a million
>net worth goes up and down
>eventually has many, many millions
>"Trump is a moron"

Am I missing something? Did he or did he not multiply his wealth into a large sum, along the way building his name into a brand and banging models? And then to cap it off, he becomes the fucking president.

The amount of logical gymnastics and bad faith it takes to try to spin this life story into one of failure is mind-boggling. Astronomical cope.

>>13580032
>started with a million
he started with 400 million and based on those tax returns he has less than 1 billion now. a basic stock index would have made him over 5 billion now

>>13573640
He probably shitposts on biz

>>13574607
This can essentially be said for any rich person over the past 100 years.

>>13580032

You honestly think he only got 1 mil from his daddy?

>>13575073
>He obviously didn't lose any money at all
>He wronte on his taxes that he lost money
Uhh, isn't that, like, fraud or something?

>>13580335

It's not fraud if your lawyer helps you do it, like they do for rich people. Then it's called "loopholes".

>>13578510
failed entrepreneur works for $0 an hour though

>>13580032
he just bought real estate and rent seeked with his daddys money and he still underperformed the stock market

all of his "businesses" are stupid ideas that failed, remember trump steak?

>>13573851
>Trump is going to win in 2020.
I doubt it

>>13574665
>Ure stoopid and cope
Keke trelled
XDdddddd

>>13573832
Sales is a hard job to be good at especially for car sales

>>13581294
Not even american but i fucking love leftist salt. Was in college when he first won, the entire auditorium was filled with angry scabby students.
Next time is gonna be even better cos he'd be purging the juidiciary, media, law enforcement, military and gov of traitors and the deepstate globohomos are clawing back weaker and weaker.


>I-IMPEACH AMIRYTE?

>>13581271
>Remember Trump steak?

R E N T F R E E

>>13573837
Because his "comeback" was with the help of the Rothschilds

>>13574701
>>13574754
>>13575305

>Ross, then an investment banker working for Rothschild Inc., helped bondholders negotiate with Trump, whose finances were unraveling. The final deal reduced Trump's ownership stake in the Taj but left him in charge, and bondholders were unhappy when Ross presented the plan.

>"Why did we make a deal with him?" one asked, according to Rosenberg's book.

>Ross insisted that Trump was worth saving.

>"The Trump name is still very much an asset," he said.

https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-wilbur-ross-commerce-20161208-story.html

>>13582842
Fuck off, cultist

>>13582859
>Trump took a loan from a bank

NOOO

>>13582909
Save the children. God will punish you and your kind for enabling the vile sins of globalists homojew kartels.

>>13573640
>Orange billionaire bad and unsuccessful.
>(((news))) told me so

>>13582850
DELET THIS

>>13573679
He lost money owning a CASINO. You literally can't lose because the house always win with house advantage and he still managed to fuck that up.

>>13573640
Not into anything /biz/ is about but ill guess he also made quite a fortune for himself during these years

>>13573804
Snowflake derives from the tumblr sjw retards with all their made up sexualities and self diagnosed mental issues etc. so they can feel like unique special little snowflakes. Use it correctly next time.

Imagine trying to make fun of someone for being so rich they can lose hundreds of millions and still be loaded

>>13573640
He lost a billion dollars in 9 years and managed to recover? interesting, Hilary Clinton lost 1.5billion dollars in 2016 and is now selling books in wallmart and holding speeches, selling tickets for $2.50

>>13584064

>>13584064
ohno

>>13573640
>writeoffs increase as holdings expand
Gee, I wonder how that could happen.

>>13577321
https://www.forbes.com/profile/donald-trump/?list=billionaires#9b0dd6e47bdb

>REAL TIME NET WORTH
>$3.1B
>as of 5/10/19

cope

>>13577190
>the genetic lottery
no such thing
people need to stop posting this meme. it has been alive for 20 years to long

>>13577190
His father was a middling real-estate player in Queens.
Trump became a top real-estate player in Manhattan.
cope

>>13573640
At least he didn't literally murder people in the 90s like Bill Clinton and George Homo Bush

>become a self-made billionaire
>TWICE
>people question your business acumen

>>13581271

he actually almost singlehandly revived New York from something resembling Hiroshima with niggers into the worlds greatest metropolis you see today. Sure others helped along the way too but he was first and he gave those others the confidence to follow his lead.

>>13581271
>he still underperformed the stock market
Imagine actually believing this.

>>13584510
well, didn't he?

>>13584590
Between his heyday in the early-to-mid 80s and today, sure.
But by the mid-80s he himself had already gone from a Queens player to a Manhattan mogul.

Since his early start as a Queens whippersnapper, he soundly beat the market.

>>13584590
The real question is how many people actually outperformed the stock market over a 40 year span from 1980 to 2020. Those are the only people we'd consider more successful than Donald Trump, and only if they were like Jeff Bezos and started their own businesses instead of inheriting wealth like King Willem-Alexander.

How many pension funds pegged to the stock market outperformed the market or derived full value from the market's gains over the last 40 years, for example? Or how many hedge funds and hedge fund managers?

>>13582859
Not a lot of replies to this because Trump lovers suffer from cognitive dissonance. They just can't process the fact that Trump sucks Rothschild cock.

>>13573740
Exactly this
Smart people know how to make their business show a "loss" to skip out on taxes

>>13574057
Couldnt the same be said for all the people obsessed with hating a man theyve never met?