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You don't get in trouble when you're an agent of the state buddy

>>13527779
What state? It's a Florida court.
Here's the link to the actual court order, there's a subtle hilarity to it

https://www.scribd.com/document/408636766/Wright-Motion

>>13527704
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>>13527810
the DEEP STATE bro

>>13527704
Isn't this about producing records pertaining to the trust?
Not sure if this will prove/disprove anything about the identify of Satoshi.

>>13527704
Who has to what now?

>>13527837
>https://www.scribd.com/document/408636766/Wright-Motion

yes, the whole case is nothing to do with if he is satoshi or not

"Although he makes the conclusory statement that it would be unduly burdensome to produce a list of his bitcoin holdings as of December 31, 2013, this conclusion is not supported by facts. In essence, he does not argue undue burden, he argues impossibility. The argument that Dr. Wright is incapable of providing an accurate listing of his current or historical bitcoin holdings was never presented in any of the prior hearings before this Court, when the Court was crafting the scope of discovery. Notably, the Bitcoin Holdings Motion does not refute the obvious response to this argument – get the information from the trustee of the blind trust"

Creg BTFO

>>13527827
Ah yes, the infamous international deep state
>>13527837
Craig has kind of a poor track record with providing non-fabricated evidence, and the stakes are a lot higher than before this time
>>13527845
Craig Wright has to give some information under oath

>>13527845

time to produce some actual evidence or he's fucking toast

3.

On or before May 8, 2019, at 5:00 p.m. Eastern time, Dr. Wright shall provide to Plaintiffs a sworn declaration identifying the name and location of the blind trust, the name and contact information for the current trustee and any past trustees, and the names and contact information of any current or past beneficiaries. 4.

On or before May 9, 2019, at 5:00 p.m. Eastern time, Dr. Wright shall produce to Plaintiffs a copy of any and all documents relating to the formation, administration, and operation of the blind trust. The production shall be accompanied by a sworn declaration of authenticity. 5.

On or before May 15, 2019, at 5:00 p.m. Eastern time, Dr. Wright shall produce all transactional records of the blind trust, including but not limited to any records reflecting the transfer of bitcoin into the blind trust in or about 2011. The production shall be accompanied by a sworn declaration of authenticity.

>>13527851
>the stakes are a lot higher than before this time
Imagine Creg getting slapped with a huge fine or even jail time.
Now imagine Creg going "I'd rather go to jail than actually sign with the Satoshi keys".

>>13527908
and "THIS PROVES NOTHING, FUCKERS. I AM SATOSHI NAKAMOTO"

Craig Wright is not an independent, self-sufficient figure, he's Calvin's paid fraudster with ties to the NAMBLA and the LGBTQ

>>13527908
>>13527916
However it turns out, we'll probably soon have pretty definitive evidence of whether he's a total fraud or not. I really do think it's likely to turn out that he made up the entire trust thing and never had anything to do with Bitcoin's development in any way. But we'll see soon

>>13527821
He’s not in court to prove that he’s Satoshi though

>>13527851
what do u think will happen? will craig provide evidence?

>>13528544
True, but how likely is his story about being Satoshi true when he fails to get the kleiman story straight?

>>13528557
Fake evidence, most likely

>>13528557
I have no idea. I'm sure he'll have something, he's obviously a smart guy and he wouldn't get into this situation with no plan when it's so easily foreseeable. But I don't know much about law so I don't even know whether he can appeal somehow to delay having to provide any info. So I don't really know how to speculate about what could happen here

>>13528544
I think you'll find, quoted text is (still) applicable. This (Florida) trial is odd in that I'm not sure what they are fighting over even exists, but equally, I can't see how Creg gets out of this shitfest/farce without AT LEAST one perjury charge. And if he has to give personal evidence (which I doubt he can avoid now either), all bets are off, he is his own worst enemy

>>13528588
I'm sure Ayre will provide ample ways for Wright to weasel his way out of this noose.

>>13528566
Yeah I think this will still make his claim to be Satoshi a more obvious fraud

Satoshi is a meme. Creg knew in advance that it's not illegal to impersonate Satoshi.

>>13528503
There is a chance that Creg learned about bitcoin early on because it was first published in the cryptographers' circles, and then swindled his deceased fellow Dave. Then, he hooked up with Calvin and they both came up with this "coming out as Satoshi" thing. Really the most reasonable explanation so far.

>>13528602
>ayre shall nobly save the Cregster from the gallows
or dump him like a hot potato - as noted, should be considered a meisterwerk of the black arts if they indeed cobbled together anything halfway believable on this Tulip Turst horseshit. But BS'ing a Judge under threat of perjury + providing actual evidence that passes muster is is not the same as talking shite on Twitter and blustering your way through. And the Judge hasn't sounded too impressed thus far, God Bless 'Im

>>13528642
That's also a possibility, as no one knows why Ayre even uses Wright in the first place. Surely he has enough funds and network to launder his money without Wright.

>>13528660
All this fabricated bullshit, forged documents, fake emails, blog posts and logs, it all eventually leads to Calvin because he was the first to tweet about Craig Wright being "Satoshi" back in early 2016 after that made-up "leak" happened

>>13528642
Your vocabulary is strange. I like it

>>13528706
Yes, but the "why" still eludes me.

>>13528729
maybe he knows something you dont know. he is after all a billionaire and has been since at least 2011
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHPx9ybewkE

>An old Cypherpunk is teaching his grandson about crypto. "A fight is going on inside my space," he said to the boy. "It is a terrible fight and it is between two Satoshis. One is evil - he is anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego."
>He continued, "The other is good - he is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion, and faith. The same fight is going on inside your space - and inside every other, too."
>The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather, "Which Satoshi will win?"
>The old Cypherpunk simply replied, "The one that can sign."

>>13528858
Thanks. Interesting interview. Calvin seems like a good down to earth guy

If you read the court documents, you quickly get a sense that the Florida court knows craig is literally full of shit. Hilarious.

>>13528897
nicely done

And all this faggot would need to do to prove he's satoshi is simply move one btc out of the genesis wallet. But nah, lets go on a showboat ride of narcissistic bullshit

>>13529025
craig has everything to gain and nothing to lose by signing.
thus, if he doesn't sign, that's actually proof he can't.
if he can't sign the vastly most probable reason is he never could - the very unlikely reason is he is a fucking moron that didn't backup his keys despite repeatedly advising everyone to do just that.
if he never could sign as satoshi then he obviously is not and never was satoshi.
which proves that he is a liar and a fraud.
simple logic.

>#CraigisSatoshi

>>13529075
I've just been watching this whole shitshow since August from the sidelines, never on either shillteams side, and it's fucking ridiculous to the lengths Craig goes to show how much of a narcissistic liar he is. I've never seen such a blatant case of pathological lying

>>13528858
Well yes obviously he knows something. It's still amazing to me how he needs Weight for whatever reason despite being perfectly capable of being a rich man all by himself.

>>13528627
I have a feeling it's something along these lines too, but I bet the real story is some wacky shit nobody would be able to predict until it comes out in court

I think the truth is Bitcoin is just outdated obsolete tech soon to be usurped by PoS coins. And i think that CSW along with other 2009 era bag holders are trying desperately anything they can to keep this absolute turd of a coin going forever. They have millions invested in it. And anyone they held BTC got BSV for FREE. so let that sink in. Same with BCH. That's what you guys don't understand. Any BTC fork is BTC itself because anyone holding BTC gets the other forks airdropped for FREE. It's literally all the same shit.

>>13530341
>Usurped by PoS
PoS are utter dogshit. Heard of nothing at stake problem? It's why PoW will always win
>muh environment
>muh erectwicity
>muh big blocks
>muh small blocks
>muh fees
>muh mempool is full
Don't care, these are features of a decentralised network that solves double spend. PoS is shit
>inb4 51% attack
What's dPoW, faggot

>>13527704
So god damn fucked thank god. Finally he will dissolve into obscurity like shrekli did. See ya later kangaroo cock sucker.

1.

Dr. Wright’s Motion Regarding Production of a List of the Public Addresses of His Bitcoin as of December 31, 2013, [DE 155] which is deemed to be a Motion for Protective Order, is DENIED.

>>13530428
>Heard of nothing at stake problem? It's why PoW will always win
You should read a PoS whitepaper some time, all the good ones (like ETH) have a plan for nothing-at-stake that is more secure than PoW.

>>13531208
>List of the Public Addresses of His Bitcoin
kek, good call not allowing that without proof of ownership

>>13527837
there is no trust dude
this guy has no BTC, he has a bunch of public addresses that he said "those are mine".
That's not how this works lmao, permissionless means that even if any court anywhere said that those belong to him, it really belongs to whoever has the private keys and nothing will ever change that
if those private keys are 'with' mtgox (meaning on the exchange), they will just give them back to the respective accounts

>>13530448
>comparing shkreli with this psychopathic cocksucker
there's a special place in hell for you

>>13527704
hahaha....I can assure you that I also know of some Satoshi news coming out soon that will be great :-)

>>13527821
he's mad salty about cryptography
>"what do you mean it would take 10000 years to break this PGP thingy?? "

>>13531568
crypto is quiet unforgiving to noobs like creg

>>13530341
Hahahahahahahahahaaha

Kys

>>13530341
0Forced to baghold... I mean "stake" "crypto coins" for 0.05% p.a. while (((devs))) are printing as many as they please.
Excellent idea. Really saves the environment though by rendering paper printers obsolete.

>>13527704
we'll see

>>13530341
So what you're saying is... THREE FOR FREE?