/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>13528150
What site?

Daily reminder dividends are not your friend

>>13528174
My first week getting into divvied my drocks have gone up 2% and i have an army of divvies on the way. Fuck off shlomi we getting rich here and you csnt stop us

>Margin debt correlates well with stock crashes
>We are at an all time high margin debt
Yeah, I'm think bear looks pretty attractive right now.

>>13528189
>My one week results are good
Holy shit, and I just won two coin tosses in a row! I'm gonna be rich if I just keep betting heads!

>>13528171
It's not
https://www.tradingview.com/markets/currencies/economic-calendar/
https://www.marketwatch.com/tools/calendars/economic
https://www.investing.com/economic-calendar/
https://news.morningstar.com/BriefNet/MarketCalendar.aspx?page=EconomicCalendar
but those all should show roughly the same information

It's some other investing website (Schwab, Vanguard, ...)

>>13528217
Thanks for the links. I'm sure they'll do just fine.

>>13528211
Keep crying over your losses i only make money

>>13528174

>>13528171
>>13528044
im anon from last thread, sorry for not telling you. screenshot from the economic calendar
https://tradingeconomics.com/calendar
>>13528065
i was just joking with ya, i know the trade talks are on wednesday and 67 hours was funny

>>13528260
Thanks!

>>13528260
>>13528150
>https://tradingeconomics.com/calendar
this used to be in the OP desu, maybe next thread maker can put it back in again? thanks :^)

is now a good time to buy AT&T?

>>13528291
It’s always a good time

He should trash it more.

honestly churning out any kind of cowgirl images is super draining

I gotta do it though, I found my mission

>>13528286
Is that smiley just a jew face? I’ve seen it used a lot here and i dont quite understand its meaning

im going to put 30k in this portfolio on monday
what do you think anons

T
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RDS.B
BTI
GSK
RIO
MPLX
IRM

>>13528447
this is some good OC, feels a bit weird knowing where it comes from...
>>13528576
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I90Q2bChBX8&ab_channel=DrewOttaway

> At the age of 29, William Stanley Jevons (1835-1882) published his seminal work The Coal Question (1865), which greatly influenced the field of environmental economics. In this book, Jevons noted that improvements in fuel or energy efficiency tend to increase rather than decrease usage. Jevons wrote, "It is a confusion of ideas to suppose that the economical use of fuel is equivalent to diminished consumption. The very contrary is the truth."

> The Jevons Paradox has led to what David Owen, a long-time environmental reporter at The New Yorker, calls the “efficiency dilemma.” More efficient goods are those that are cheaper, larger, and use less electricity, all of which are net positives. However, this can lead to increased consumption that often cancels out the benefit of the initial energy savings or efficiency.

Why, yes, I am terribly bored.

>>13528150
I just opened my first thinkorswim account

>>13528150
Bought a fuck ton of Nintendo stock Friday night since they have an earnings call Monday. Am I fucked, biz?

>>13528636
W-where does it come from anon?

>>13528650

>>13528576
Troll emoji, was a big meme for a while.
*sips*

>>13528650
Coal:a human history
Is a bretty decent book.

Coalgirls was an absolutely based anime fan subbing group that retired for mental health reasons. I wish him the best, but damn do I miss his 1080p dual-audio torrents with official subs and fan sub tracks.

>>13528150

Has anyone invested in ATAX, or maybe anything similar?

http://ataxfund.com

I'm trying to understand if it'd be smarter after getting allocated in index funds to then add this into either a taxable or non taxable account.

I'm also waiting to buy this when it dips as it seems like the yield can get up to 9/10%

kek (the world war III will wipe the debt, in 2030s)

>>13528447
>shota

Everything seem so overheated and overvalued - but i thought that in 2016 too... Don't want to miss out on muh gainz. what do?

Taleb has gotten very anti-semitic recently.
https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/1125066104127225856

>>13528900
Steve isn't gonna let this economy crash until after election.

The market slumped a month before the 2018 midterms - the same liberal elite shadow marketmakers will attempt it again to defeat trump in 2020. Going 90% BTC by May 2020.

Here's your chart of the week. As of Friday's close, the Russell has finally broken out above 1600. Unless it's a false breakout, it's a confirmation of the bull move of the other major indices.

>>13529021
Thanks Obama!

is robinhood good to use for a low amount of stocks? like a few thousand $ worth?

>>13529068
thats kinda its only use

> Tariffs on 200bn. Chinese goods to increase to 25% on Friday

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/05/trump-says-tariffs-on-200-billion-of-chinese-goods-will-increase-to-25percent-on-friday.html

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1125069835044573186

>>13529090
Oh shit

>>13529068
If you have at least 25k you can day trafe there. Pretty good for user friendly day trading. Without 25k you gotta stay under 4 trades a day

>>13529092
Putting the screws on Chang. Wonder what he will do.

>>13529090
How do i read this thing?

>>13529099
China will just react by slapping more tariffs on the US

>>13529119
You click the links.

>>13529119
So trade defecit has grown to negative what? Whats the scale?

i am going to put 10k into the market on Tuesday. thinking about a spread of:

5k IVV
2k SLYG
1k MDYG
2k VUG

help

>>13529120
So it will come down to how much americans need chinese crap vs china needing american “high tech” crap?
What is American High Tech?

>>13528888
alright first, nice quads

alright second, it's just a story about a manlet who is sad that he's so short, so he learns about drinking milk (specifically, the extraordinary Dairy Pure brand) to get taller. Nothing wrong with that

>>13529090
b&r, fuck the chinks

>>13529094
*under 4 day trades per rolling 5-day period, I believe
as many one-directional trades as you want

>>13529146
I think America relies more on China than China relies on America.

>>13529146
It's bit more complex than that involving how the budget and trade work for both countries, monetary policies, and international capital markets.

Absolute state of Chicago School of Economics and Keynesians. How will they explain this?

>>13529146
wrong

factories will and have already started moving out of china to not pay tariffs

where the fuck is china going to get another america-sized market to sell shit to? Hint: there isn't one

>>13529120
Who cares? China imports like a tenth of what the U.S. does (that's why we have a 300 billion deficit with them) and already puts huge tariffs on what U.S. goods it does import. What we're doing now is the most effective-and only response-as painful as it might be in the short term for us, the chinks are absolutely seething.

Kind of a tangent, but it makes me laugh how people somehow understand that tariffs make things cost more money but don't apply the same logic to domestic taxes or forced wage increases.

>>13529195
How many of the factories-moved-out-of-China moved out of East Asia though. Chinese supply chain structure is what is the target I believe, and that covers fair bit of East Asia. I haven't found this information myself when I tried to look for it.

>>13529195
The reciprocal of
> "where [expletive] is china going to get another america-sized market to sell shit to? Hint: there isn't one"
is where is America going to get another dumping ground for its debt? (Hint is the same)

This situation is very funny because of the interwoven economies!

>>13529192
Are you an Austrian?

>>13529222
yeah who on earth would buy treasuries besides americans, germans, japanese, brazil, switzerland, hong kong, saudi arabia, india and taiwan?

>>13529205
>the chinks are absolutely seething.
That's not a good thing though. The reigns of the world are slowly being handed to China. The US is beginning to decline.

>>13529239
So they'll help America out and cover Chang's spending on UST in this hypothetical? That's a lot of buying they're going to do to cover it, no?

Cows of Dow

>>13529257
>the US is beginning to decline

China is in free-fall because of Trump's policies, their only way out is to make a deal that will be much better for the U.S. and a little worse than what they're used to

https://www.scmp.com/comment/insight-opinion/article/3004246/china-can-shake-flurry-bad-economic-news-soon-it-shakes

>>13529301
The people replying to Trumps tweets truly are the lowest of the low.

>>13529336
That's in the short term though. In the long term they will surpass the states. The next president will likely revoke all trump era tariffs anyways.

secret cow transformation device
very spooky, there could be cows in disguise all around (!)

DDDDRRRRRUUUUMMMPPPFFFF

Sounds like no trade deal.

>>13529427
Trade deal by Friday, Kudlow on CNBC soon.

>>13529175
this is a blatant lie retard. china exports way more than america exports. In trade wars the exporter gets hurt harder since they lack their own domestic market

>>13529306
Are they Alta Dena?
I want a hucow gf to gimme da milk.

>>13529457
Gotta love how Kudlow gets trotted out whenever the market needs to know everything’s OK. Wonder if monday will be a buyable dip that reverses EOD

>>13529362
why is it reversed?

>>13528650
first the middle east now venezuala if we cant figure an actual alternative to coal it will mean war.

>>13529557
Kudlow isn't even the red alert, it's when they bring out Steve with 'made some liquidity calls everything is okay' that is the shit hit the fan possibility.

>>13529574
> alternative to coal
The alternative exists.

>>13529578
Mnchan is the badcop I thought. Kudlow is the “please don’t sell your stonks everything is daijoubu” guy.

>>13529589
>all that concrete and construction
Very energy and water intensive, creates a lot of CO2 as well.

Reminder that we have never successfully decommissioned a nuclear power plant.

>>13529427
>>13529457
No, the new narrative will be about how China's economy is on the verge of collapse and that they need us more than we need them.
"We have them right where we want them" or something of that nature.

>>13529589
no one is going to give venezuela the secrets to nuclear power

>>13529621
Everything is energy and water intensive, from building wind turbines to building hydroelectric dams. All modern structures are made with massive amounts of concrete, whether it to be to create stable footings or otherwise.
Nuclear power plants aren't even that big relative to ONE skyscraper.

We have never decommissioned a nuclear power plant because we want to upgrade them in place, but hippie retards don't want that to happen so they crumble in place instead like Fukushima did.

Trade deal dead. I'm going to be rich tomorrow. I went all in TVIX.

Wonder what the effects gonna be if Chink numbers on Wednesday are shit

Does anyone have any resources on the historical price trends of IPOs? I found an overview but it was a news notification so I can't find it again. Considering buying a few shares of Beyond Meat and/or Pinterest

DOW crashing https://www.ig.com/en/indices/markets-indices/weekend-wall-street

>>13529718
Trump forcing the stocks down so J-Po is forced to cut rate, brilliant.

the economy and its underlying instruments as we understand and measure them have fundamentally changed

>>13529664
Wonder if the shorts still have to cover their vix positions, maybe tvix is worth buying Monday morning.

Then again, if they trot out Kudlow they could get a referral.

>>13529646
True, until you went off the rails with the Fukushima thing. I don’t think hippies are to blame for that, but cost cutting may have been a big factor. No one spend if they don’t have to, energy seems to be particularly fucked up when I think about the California wildfires started by crumbling power lines, the deepwater horizon incident, the fracking fluid that leaks out, the fires at refineries and drilling platforms, and the tanker spills.

They should probably be more regulated, even if that does slow down stock market growth and means raising gas prices.

>>13529718
I need a 30% crash to buy cheapies please

>>13529558
actually no idea, it's one of the versions on nh

>>13529557
yes, Alta Dena and about two dozen other dairy brands (see the OP pic)

>>13529728
"This time it's different"

>>13529735
next wave of the charging golden bull run starts tomorrow

I need a massive crash so VIX goes to 90. After it peaks you can ride VIX ETN decay down with puts and retire early

>>13529775
Ratsu I need the golden bull to take a 30% nap before the REAL and ETERNAL bullrun starts

>>13529788
u mean December?

>>13529735
Trade deal is dead. This was the only thing saving the market and driving the rally since Christmas. I expect SPY to hit 200 sometime later this year. I'm going 100% cash on Monday. I knew the trade deal was dead with how long it was postponed. Trump just put the nail in the coffin. There will NEVER be a trade deal with China. Position your portfolios correctly to account for this. You should be heavy in fixed income right now.

>>13529794
Not big enough

>>13529788
corrections removed in the latest patch

Dont worry, you can still load up on Kroger before it gaps up

>>13529820
No more beartrap pullback?

>>13529777
>I’m so glad to bring Alita to her hometown, Japan.
Holy shit I hate this actress.

DJI already down -0.75%. Tomorrow will be a historic crash. I warned you guys that the trade deal was smoke and mirrors.

https://www.ig.com/uk/indices/markets-indices/weekend-wall-street

>>13529820
>Mfw KR dividend growth goes parabolic for eternity

>>13529851
> Tomorrow will be a historic crash
thems the fighting words i hope it delivers

>>13529195

King Cotton 2.0

>>13529849
thats still possible, even likely, but would only make a 5% drop. breadth thrust style still active for 250 days probability wise

Wonder how AMD will react to this.

>>13528150

I have almost 60k in the stock market. Should i pull it out and buy property in a year or two?

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-05/trade-deal-dead-trump-says-10-china-tariff-rising-25-friday-another-325bn-goods-be

MORE TARIFFS :-)

Shit timing. LCI earnings moon and GALT rights offering might take a beating.

Trump. Please no.

>>13529930
SPY 200 by EOY.

>>13529937
you some kind of, chink sympathizer boy?

the chinks are freaking out right now

they've been pumping a lot of money into their market to stay afloat

Trump puts on the heat
if they want to play lets play

chinks are dragging their feet because they know they can't walk away

>>13528650
Interesting and probably true. How could you explain the fact that in EU the car fuel consumption is down 40% since 2008?

>>13529988
China and EU both are trying to wait out until 2020 elections (they're thinking he wont win)

>>13529988
You are an uneducated Americuck. China is not freaking out. Drumpf is gone in 1.5 years. The next president will immediately overturn these tariffs and China will be fine. China has the leisure of planning long term since they are not beholden to a fickle populous that wants to change direction every 4 years. China will sign no trade deal unless it benefits them in the future and drives them towards being #1 super power in world.

>>13529988
If it works, it works. It's still shit timing.

>>13529901
Oh... dang I freed up cash for cheapies but I guess we’re not getting them.

>>13530019
>. China has the leisure of planning long term since they are not beholden to a fickle populous that wants to change direction every 4 years
This but unironic. America could do better with 7 year presidencies.

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

Thank god I have no calls going into monday

>>13530035
This is kind of stupid thinking

Term limits are the best thing in politics, 5 year terms might be slightly better. The thing we really need is more term limits on congress and other areas.

>>13530019
yo they're not going to have an easy 1.5 years (if they don't cave)
their economy is barely staying afloat

whatever you say about the 'long game' shows that you have a weak understanding of Chinese history
if they crack even a little there will be serious unrest really quickly, the type of stuff that isn't really imaginable in the western world
their logistics don't work like our logistics

>>13530019
>drumpf
>fickle change direction

discarded

>>13530060
nice post

>>13530048
wish theyd cut down the age restrictions most positions are held by out of touch and senile old people

>>13530082
hard agree

something I've been arguing for is maximum ages for things like driving and holding political office
same argument as minimum age: you're not saying that no one at that age is capable of doing those things, you're just saying that most people at that age shouldn't be doing those things

when you phrase the argument like that, you can see the fear in the boomers' eyes :3

>>13530048
Term limits good, but when every president has to think about reelection during their whole first term, then drop everything and focus on campaigning 2.5 years into their presidency, and then is a lame duck during the end of the second term, really limits what they can do.

Could be a good thing I guess, if you like obstruction.

>>13530019
Based and educated

>>13530117
>really limits what they can do
not really, if they had important shit to do they would cut out all the stupid dinners with X Y Z winners of sports, the golfing, vacations, and weeks of christmas ornament parties

The coming election stuff just means they have to do popular things.

>>13530104
IQ drops with age quite rapidly.

55+ should not hold any public office. Even if they seem intelligent the actual brain is basically static.

>>13530117
A joke that's fun to tell is that we've already had a female president; Nancy Reagan lol
Reagan pretty much lost it the last two years and his wife was based and functionally led the country

>>13530157
Happened with FDR before Raegan.

>>13530157
It should be a random drawn position from small business owners with 20+ years of success and net worth of around 5-10 million who climbed economically from their parents positions.

Would be so much better than what faggots run today.

>>13530162
Life lesson
>Marry a qt redpilled wife who can run a country for lolz

I'm bored. I wish the market was open all the time

DONALD BLUMPF

>>13530178
It would get boring and stressful. Tedious just watching for moves but unable stop because not wanting to get caught off guard.

>>13530157
Enith Wilson is the og
pic related, Wilson couldn't even sign his name at the point this was taken

>>13530019
smart chinks are already doing everything they can to get their money out of that hell hole. china's economy is slowing down hard and even chinese government propaganda isnt taunting "unlimited growth" anymore

How do you guys think SPY, MSFT, and DIS is looking this week due to drumph's tarrifs? Is it dumping this week? Should I ride the bear train?

>>13530265
blood path it is

>>13530250
There are reasons to leave china but you can't be too negative on those. It's best to have a balanced viewpoint. I'm sure the rich in China would rather have order than civil war or leftist taxes.

>>13530291
?? "leftist taxes"
how is that different than the state telling you how you can invest your money. Property in australia, new zealand, west coast of USA, and B.C. canada are expesive as shit as rich chinese launder their money out of china and into real estate in the western world since it is more stable.

The golden economic boom of china was slowing down even before trump started the trade war.

>>13530197
Dolan y?

>>13530291
How do we export populism?

>>13530305
They have high growth rate still. Kind of stupid to insult the most successful growth country in the world over past 30 years.

>>13530305
I always forget that’s why the housing market is so expensive. Fucking xinese.

flatty

want fatty

>>13530291
China has drastically cut taxes in response to Blormpf already, and already had lower taxes than most European countries by a wide berth. They can't go much further down, they don't really have an "out" in their domestic policy other than the hope that Trump loses to Biden in the next election

>lmoa

>>13530333
>the market shrugs
Damn it! They’ve already anticipated the Kudlow bump!

>>13530316
Not only that, when Chinamen stop building their infra/have slowdown in manufacturing they cause ripples elsewhere too, even in Europe (pic is from SK)

>>13530355
This was interesting too.

>>13530348
I wouldn't call optimizing for maximal economic growth a bad policy. I think you are mistaking actions to do so as some desperate ploy.

China's goals are stability and growth. You have other countries happy with 1% growth that you should worry about more than one trying to do everything to advance.

>>13530315
>believing in commie state cooked numbers
Never forget that the growth of China has been propped by incompetent western politician. Their bubble will pop in five years maximum

>>13530315
the economic grows and shrinks. No country can expand without limits. China is like japan in the early 1990s, its their time to slow down. Xi is dumping as much money and stimulus as they can to slow it down. Not to mention their gdp is already meaningless since they exagerate it to shit

look up wikileaks of how chinese government officials even say their numbers are man-made and to look for other metrics like railroad utilization and electricity use to actually measure industry growth

>>13530375
oh chang, everyone knows china is glass house

>>13530368
https://www.scmp.com/business/banking-finance/article/3008795/chinese-banks-quietly-lower-daily-limit-foreign-currency

Capital Controls now.

"Chinese banks have increased their scrutiny of foreign-currency withdrawals and quietly reduced the amount of US dollars people are allowed to withdraw, tightening the country’s capital controls as the nearly year-long US-China trade war bites."

>>13530134
most municipal positions have no reason for age limiters and it only proves to further ostracize the youth from politics.

>>13530393
If China's numbers are so cooked that they won't last to 2025 why is U.S. even threatened to begin with?

>>13530402

>>13530348
people always expext 'china to collapse' but long term growth rates so massive it does not matter at all

will I be able to import a qt chinese dress gf when their economy crashes and there is massive civil unrest and starving (like what happens all the time in Chinese history)?

>>13530410
they aren't really, the red day tomorrow will be lackluster as proof

>>13530426
Peaople also always expecting US to collapse...

Personally I have predicted the collapse of the Roman Empire to occur by 2025.

>>13530430
Collapse means crab bucket, they’ll pull the qts down with them.

How many qts were exported during boxer rebellion?

>>13530410
Because the US is terrified of the consequences of a collapsing China.
If Trump wanted China dead, then he'd have just started out with 25% tarrifs from the get go and increased them as much as possible as he would.
But the consequences of a collapsed China are pretty damn dire, especially for the stock market/rich people, so instead we have Trump trying to convince Xi to actually reform his economy instead of going the opposite direction like he was.

>>13530437
U.S. collapsed 85 years after its independence.

>>13530449
>doesn't understand how supply chains work and why a slow tariff build up is ideal

>>13530447
the world is different now

even if Trump wants to impose a 30% tariff on my china dress gf imports, that just means I'll have to import 30% fewer.

>>13530465
Capital is more important than anything else. There is enough competition globally that USA can buy elsewhere easily enough.

>>13530487
I mean if there is a surplus of china dress wearing qts somewhere besides china that I'm overlooking, sure

but the market for china dress gfs is one-dimensional, AFAIK a sufficient quantity of them are only to be found in china

>>13530410
china will be quickly at least twice usa size economically takes less than 10 years now, american empire had its time on top now it's time to give new world power room

>>13530553
this

USA is already dealing with internal decline due to lowering IQs, much less a homogenous competitor that didn't swallow the cyanide sjw pill

>>13530410
Because the US economy is tied to China, due to the political incompetence in the last 20 years. Now the work must be done no matter what, and this will generate political/economic troubles, but the US will come out strenghtened

What's his endgame?

>>13530575
> work must be done
So you are going to deep six the Chinese in an exchange of nuclear hellfire because they managed to grow competent economy but with fake numbers?

I'm just trying to understand the 'Chinese numbers are fake but we are at existential battle with them anyway' thing here.

>>13530575
reminder the establishment wants a return to status quo asap

USA will have diversity on our side so all the countries of the world will unite with us out of goodwill.

>>13530585
Ransoming the Chinese economy for a qt China girl gf

>>13530585
Quadruple the net worth of him, his family, and friends before he gets kicked to curb in 1.5 years. You honestly think he didn't tell his friends and insiders to load up on SPY puts on Friday? The system is corrupt, dude.

>>13530590
You are arguing with different people.

The lower IQ swallowed the propaganda that was fed about ghost cities and it's all fake.

The mid IQ think only democracy works! Aka the common status quo since 20 years ago.

>>13530575
>baby boomers are economically incompetent
No way, that’s impossible!

>>13530511
>tfw no big tiddy qipao gf
Too many of the qt2D qipao girls are trash like tenten. I miss shows like this one.

Should I unironically watch Canaan? Apparently there’s a qipao girl. But I don’t love that era of bug eyed anime uwu’s.

>the absolute state of the FOREX market right now

OH NO NO NO NO LMAO

>>13530553
Remember that there is a special kind of divine providence for children, drunk people, and United States of America.
>t. Otto Von Bismarck

>>13530573
>>13530553
you could have said the same thing about china in ~150, ~900, ~1640 .... etc.

China has looked strong before, ti happens over and over throughout their history. Then, sudden and massive implosion
It is western ignorance of the Chinese history that makes you think they are some monolithic empire that will continue to grow forever

>>13530627
I think it depends on a fuck ton of variables.

I don't think one thing on China, some % chances

% chance they are the next super power in 2025+
% chance they are a competitor on par with USA

etc. In most scenarios I don't have a huge pessimistic attitude to China.

>>13530615
canaan is fine

>>13530644
CN will be contained by other regional powers.

Lke you can be sitting here saying China can't compete then in 2 years you have President Sanders talking about doubling taxes in USA

We don't know the future but if you don't have some real % chance they are superpower and USA is in decline by 2025 you're absolutely shit brained

>why didn't you listen anon, it didn't have to be this way

>>13530664
In what model?

There aren't a lot of countries between China and Mars. "Containment" means something very different today.

The military value of say, a lunar base, is equivalent to 100 carrier ships.

You can't

>>13530615
china dress is literally #1


>>13530644
just don't get overconfident on them, don't think of them as a western country but just with more people
read history about any of the large and prosperous chinese empires and how they fell apart super quickly just after the height of their power
and realize that no one has ever had to try and rule a country with the size and dynamics of modern china. I applaud their government for getting them this far. I think Xi is shrewd and will do a very good job.
But when I see the 'China will keep growing forever' posts, I know that the people posting this stuff are probably ignorant about the true nature and history of china

>>13530644
China's biggest problem is that they can't rely on the whole "Freedom and Democracy" schtick the US uses to get away with the stuff it does.
Hell, China has driven the Vietnamese to align with the US and we bombed the shit out of their country for a decade.
So China will end up putting itself in the position the Soviets found themselves in: Powerful, yes, but fucking everyone hates them with a passion and wants nothing to do with them beyond what's necessary.

>>13530682
>China develops genetic engineering programs and AI
These two things alone would destroy any historical prediction you use.

>>13529919
> Wonder how AMD will react to this.

I wonder about that as well, considering high tech products already have 25% tariffs on them.

>>13530601
>the most monitored man in the world-and whose personal wealth has decreased by 25% over a two year period-is engaging in illegal insider trading

>>13530689
kek, I know

They killed or critically injured a chinese driver of a japanese import car during one of their nationalist drives. Their foreign policy is okay except in terms of pissing everyone off around them.

>>13530657
But... redline is better? Been meaning to torrent it.

>>13530680
they can not grow to a superpower status like US due to geography in the first place. they can be big economic power, but not world Hegel like US

>>13530718
Under what models dude? Over traditional military models? How do we know economic warfare isn't the de-facto standard now?

Is USA going to use it's military directly to "contain" China?

Where do you get the confidence that space isn't the new battlespace and ultimate highground?

How does MAD doctrine work if there are a million Chinese in space colonies?

>>13530689
>Powerful, yes, but fucking everyone hates them with a passion and wants nothing to do with them beyond what's necessary.

wait that sounds like the US (not quite, but we're on the way there)

>>13530693
I'm not making any historical prediction

I'm warning you from imagining china as some space age superpower
they were living in mud huts not long ago (some still are)

they've made great strides and built amazing things before as a vast, unified empire. Thousands of years ago. But it can fall apart quicker than you can imagine, when just a moment before everything would have looked OK from the outside

you're not pricing in some of the china downside because as a westerner you actually can't imagine some of the history that country has, and the way that their social structures do (or don't) hold together
They're not just the US with higher pop and lower GDP per capita and a slightly more controlling central government. there's a lot more to the 'glue' that holds the chinese institutions together

>>13530737
Meaning, Japan being close to China doesn't mean jack shit if they have complete domination of space.

>the lolicons found /smg/
I'm gonna have to call the SEC AND the Feds I see. Let me just save all these images real quick.

>>13530741
Nah, I've lowered my expectations a bit since Xi's consolidation and trump getting elected to rise west's chance.

>>13530737
> under what model
the model where US is protected by massive seas and, desert and massive mountain range, and China is sandwhiched between India, Russia (nuke powers), Paki and NK (nuke power but friendly to CN but you never know)

>>13530752
but China doesnt have that. Rhats roughly divided between Russia and US for now.

>>13530770
Why would that matter if the win condition is

AGI
Genetics
Intelligence explosion
space dominance
economic dominance

?

>>13530777
>china economy doubles USA economy
>spend on space
>gain space advantage
etc

Things will change more in the next 20 years as to what defines a superpower than ever. It's silly to look at geography or carrier groups and think it's a maginot line

>>13530765
hey the Chinese central committee has done a fantastic job keeping the central state elements in line and working together for the past couple decades
It's great, and if it continues their growth will continue

But it's a little early to start talking about Chinese space colonies where a little bit of infighting within the central committee could tear the country apart

and from the western point of view, we wouldn't see it coming until it was basically happening.

Now the modern Chinese leaders have great tools to monitor civilians and each other, to keep things in line. We'll see how far it gets them this time


threat to china isn't external, it's ALWAYS internal

So... I should invest in BILI and BABA as a hedge against the west?

Is Monday going to be a YINN day or the day for YANG?

>>13530682
FUG. Too bad this is fan art and non-canon costume.

>>13530763
Not even a lolicon, but fug this one is impressively enticing:
>>13530627

>>13530793
if gaining world hegemon status like that of US was easy as 'etc' it would have happened already. irs unique position grants it unique, unattainable advantages.
>>13530778
all of that is purely in the hypothetical. for now, space is for Russia and US, and economy is divided between US, China nad if you count EU as economic trade block.

>>13530821
you should invest in BILI anyway
I don't hold YANG anymore

>>13530828
It's best not to include EU in the models of the future prediction. They don't matter and are entirely dysfunctional.

>>13530844
i mean have you seen US?
(we dont even need to go to Chinese webms)

>>13530800
>threat to china isn't external, it's ALWAYS internal
someone who understands it

>>13530865
Did someone say chinese webms?

>>13530865
US is dysfunctional but semi-coherent.

EU is just a babbling mess of retards. They have decent standard of living so whatever, but they don't do anything anymore.

>>13530887
we didnt need to go there since its a low hanging fruit when talking of dysfunctional societies

>>13530887
chinese society is inferior even to the most pathethic western societies (europe right now). They have that many people and are still not a a dominant world power? WONDE WHY? same goes for india... the chinese shills and indirect supporters are always the same
>muh population
doesn't matter if the main stock of the population is literally shit tier
shit people=shit country

>>13530915
People don't understand that countries are built by their working class, and the quality of the working class is what decides a countries success.

>>13530943
they will be completely immune to social justice rot though

>>13530959
>they will be completely immune to social justice rot though

> doubting The Big Gay

seriously hope you guys dont do this

>>13530943
Solidarity and compassion are key to building a lasting and cohesive society, and the chinese have over the centuries lost those two abilities.
nothing makes laught like>>13530778
>>13530793

>>13530959
yes we are at the other extreme i guess, but before the recent mold began spreading all over western society we had optimal culture for empire building. the chinese have the optimal culture for being ruled over, be it manchurians or the communist party. the chinese complacency is truly unique and is the product of a broken people

>>13530959
Immune to SJW’s because immune to justice...
>>13530915
Please protect yo wimmenz, China. We want to import the ones that haven’t been infected with 4th wave feminism and HAAS bulshit.
>>13530887
DELET. This is worse than the gymnast breaking both of her legs. Jesus fuck I thought it was going to be a human child or somethkng, but this is just fucked up.

>>13530995
>>13531001
nah they will have good boy points to keep up to stop bad behaviors instead of brain feedback.

>>13530959
for a generation, maybe longer, depends what happens

keeping their leadership structure in line and working together for the next one decade will be great. Two decades, even better.
We'll see how it goes for them, but because it's China, you could see news AT ANY TIME that there is some infighting in the central committee
things go south very quickly from there if it really gets to some infighting. especially with the current population density in some of the large cities, the next 20 years could see atrocities that have been unimaginable in recent history

or not
but some rainbows aren't their biggest issue
the US/whatever military isn't their biggest problem
their biggest problem is Chinese history, Chinese ambition

>>13530888
>US is dysfunctional but semi-coherent.
It's like you built best airport ever created and youre about to take off... But fuel just ran off bcs kikes sold it yesterday
>EU is just a babbling mess of retards. They have decent standard of living so whatever, but they don't do anything anymore.
Exactly why I'm gonna chill this global fuckup here. It's fucking irrelevant village compared to power and problems of big boys but hey, I can sit here looking at world burning eating fancy meals with fancy peeps

Every discussion on China always regresses into webms of their uniquely Chinese soulless nature.

>>13531017
Yeah, imagine how much better technology has gotten and despite that these fuckheads running things can barely get a few points of GDP growth

>>13531011
Sadly the designers of those programs will also be chinese

>>13531041
Well, people have spiritual aka nonsense arguments against external rewards for good social behavior. China's idea of a social credit score is pretty logical.

>>13531048
Everyone is programmed by "reward centers" in the brain. Externalizing these is not a bad thing. If people actually understood them so many things would be different in society which would make things much, much better.

In fact I'd say the misunderstanding of discipline, motivation, etc is the biggest flaw in human society right now.

Meaning instead of viewing it as a system or science people just view it as some magical thing you just wish out of thin air.

>>13531033
Why would you want more growth?

Monday and Tuesday Japan still not working. Expect same behavior from market as we had last week. On top of that Brits are off on Monday. In morning EU is gonna get hit with shit PMIs. Our German buddies in particular.

>>13531078
I'm not amish?

>>13531087
We also can only have kids and produce so much in a finite space. More than 2% would be bad

>>13531087
NGMI

>>13531084
Germany can't be that bad right?
Their PMI is expected to be weak, we aren't expecting it to be abysmal

>>13530995
Doesn't take generations to get rid of it. The Germans decided pretty much overnight to execute their disabled. Could you imagine if we executed our war heroes who came back with PTSD/wheelchairs?

>>13531011
kek, very good point. The "social" credit score with facial recognition tech is insane.

>>13531015
When the FUCK is the anime coming out, and where will I be able to watch it?
>tfw jap girls IRL hate bulky men and love twinks, and have no interest in sex.

>>13531041
>unprovoked murder of a child
What the shit? This is some Patrick Bateman shit...
Please stop posting this gurochan/pol/b/ shit

>>13528603
T will reward you a lot depending on how long you plan to hold and if you use Drip.

Ex: My 149 shares will by the time I'm 65 (29 years from now) give me 36k in Divvy income.

Yeah 36k ain't a lot by itself but that will not be my only income stream. I got others. Also I make shit now as it is, just under 27k a year before tax/deductions get sucked out. Hell my T income alone will be 9k more than what I make now.

>>13531093
if you are braindead, those worries of running out of resources have always been completely wrong

>>13531078
This is actually much scarier. You need growth with modern GDP to debt ratios. If you're not growing you'll drown in debt. I think Saudis and Russians can care less about growth as long as their debt is low and they have oil.

>>13531094
We're getting both Germany and EU composite. I think this combo is not great news.

>>13531027
Im sorry, but this is really the most important thing to understand with the chinese and the future of china, no nation can be greater than its people. If the people is complacent, the nation is also complacent and nothing more than a victim to the whims of time itself.

>>13531048
>China's idea of a social credit score is pretty logical.
You are thinking it would work like a skinners box, but not even skinner could teach his rodents to walk and talk like men.
its not like the chinese leadership hasnt tried to do something about behaviour like in this webm, they started 20 years ago trying to change this behaviour with laws and extensive programs.

but really all of this is an ancient chinese tradition, my favorite is how the manchurians gave up on the chinese and figured the best way to make them follow rules is by having a death penalty on everything , the famous one being the requirement for all chinese men to have the manchurian knot hairstyle. and even that didn't work. to change the chinese you would have to make them stop being chinese.

>>13531100
>implying you, T, the stock market, or the world as a whole will still be kicking in 30 years

enjoy your scraps while you still can

>>13528150
Can you guys recommend any good youtubers relating to daytrading or the stock market?

>>13531098
>When the FUCK is the anime coming out, and where will I be able to watch it?
imagine watching anime

>>13531109
I still don't see any reason to anticipate EU being a super negative surprise.
If PMI isn't great then OK, I don't think it'll be catastrophic
Even if it is pretty bad, it's just a month PMI report
I'm not super bullish, especially EU, I just don't think the PMI print is a market-reversing event

>>13531136
the sonic poster did last thread or the one before that

>>13531124
Lol, I could get hit by some asshole on my way to work but that fact don't prevent me from going to my job 5 days a week.

>>13531143
Why not watch? It’s a fun manga and should be a fun anime.

>>13531136
Yes

>>13531143
Oh don't get me wrong I don't see it as game changing. It's just longer your markets rise while your reality falls, bigger the gap between price and performance becomes. And we are going to pay for this some day.

>>13531041
>brutally, exhaustingly beat a child to death for no reason
>people just strolling on by

Should I fear chinese people?

>>13531098

>Doesn't take generations to get rid of it. The Germans decided pretty much overnight to execute their disabled. Could you imagine if we executed our war heroes who came back with PTSD/wheelchairs?
as explained in >>13531122
it is impossible to get rid of
the problem with the germans was never the stock of their people (well, hitler thought there was a problem with the mentality that jews had), but in case of the mentally ill and retarded because a small minority was deficient.

the problem the chinese have is that if they were to do the same they would have to genocide themselves
this lack of soul that we see in the chinese is what makes the chinese into THE chinese. cant remove it

>>13531173
>the problem with the germans was never the stock of their people ... but in case of the mentally ill and retarded because a small minority was deficient.
What?

Also
>murdering the gays
>not using them to create a booming fashion industry that spins textiles into gold
Short sighted?

>>13531107
I’m guessing your american like myself. People around the worse deal with scarcity and it is a very real long term concern. Oil will run out, space will run out if food or water doesnt first, etc. etc.
Go tell someone in england space is a cheap and easily available resource lmao
You just can’t have infinite growth without infinite everything else, no way around it. Even at 2% growth it isn’t sustainable forever if we stay on this earth. Eventually something will give

>>13531215
you don't know the basics, we aren't close to using 1% of available energy on earth

>>13531169
I don't watch anime, only exception is if it's good and no manga exists. So I've only watched like 5 anime ever

>>13531172
there are a lot of china gifs.
like a wild and surprising number and variety of china gifs
you have to wonder how many things go down that aren't filmed

what you have to understand is that China (and Korea, and Japan, etc.) aren't just like the US/Europe with different GDP numbers
Their cultures have inherent and fundamental differences that can create outcomes that are difficult to understand from a western perspective

>>13531173
I've seen much worse than this webm on American roads, dunno what the point is

>>13531227
Whats the aorst japanese/korean gif 4chan has shown you?

All I ever see out of china is animal cruelty and opportunistic violence

>>13531226
And what happens when we do?

>>13531215
Very truth, But technological advances have succeeded so far, so we are prone to that blind technology optimism. And there is still tech advances to be made. But microchips can only get so small because of the size of fundamental particles...

>>13531227
Also a lot of crazy Russian webms.
Remember that gif of the naked dude just going nuts and smashing g cars and shit?

What you are getting at seems to be the idea that west values the individual more and east values the group more. West is more all for one, east is more one for all.

And lack of valuing humanity in oneself, leads to easier disregarding of humanity in orthers.
>>13531252
We didn’t have gif technology during the rape of Nanking.

>>13531259
Huh? The limits on energy we run into are using the entire sun. We are still at the speck stage

>>13531252
I don't think of any China gif standing out as shockingly worse than others
the thing is there are hundreds of people dying suddenly; getting run over, eaten by elevators and escalators, electrocuted, crushed, on and on

the quantity is shocking, not the quality

like just to exist in China (and India, somewhat) you have to constantly be on your guard. There aren't safety nets looking out for you and if you die, you die.

worst video I've watched (not the whole thing) was the russian? or ukranian? hammer /screwdriver videos from a little over a decade ago, I remember I was in high school when all that came out

>>13531278
You are talking about going planetary and actoss the universe which may not even be feasible ever.
Back to the point at hand without infinite resources and population growth you can’t continue positive growth forever. 2% is very manageable long term so we keep ot around there. Much more and things can’t keep up and economies explode when you do that shit

>>13531249
Yeah not all the webms in my fuck the chinese folder are on par with the standards i set, consider it deleted. the best of them are where you can see people being indifferent to other people, and not being possible to explain with "it was a misstake", this one you can easily say "maybe the drivers brakes didn't work", and imagine same thing happening in the US, as the truth that he just thought it wasn't worth braking is too hard to grasp since you, probably of european origin, cant think of doing such a thing.

>>13531278
More like the energy of the sun that reaches the earth and passes through the atmosphere.

But I love the idea of solar collectors in space, transmitting energy to earth via microwave, or those towers that extended beyond the atmosphere in one of the gundamns.

>>13531305
I thought very hard about watching those. I think it was called 3 guys 1 hammer or something like that. I decided against it and I think I’m better off for it.

>>13531305
Never seen it, but I know the escalator video that you mentioned

>>13531313
nah that would just be a Type II, we are not even close to Type I
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kardashev_scale

>>13530426
>implying there is a china after substantial collapse
it will either be reformed or fractured why do you think they put so much effort into policing and being big brother

It's funny to me when people complain about massive spending... they forget that any money spent doesn't just "vanish" from the face of the earth... it goes in the pockets of real people... your fellow countrymen

OMG this China talk is cringe. We have economy to crash and profits to make.

>>13531320
there are at least a half-dozen escalator videos, and at least a half dozen elevator videos

probably more like a dozen of each

I think I have also seen some elevator/escalator videos from outside of china too, maybe some from eastern europe and some from asia ex-china

>>13531340
we're crashing the Chinese economy first

OR the chinks cave, trade deal goes through, and the Gundanium Alloy bull emerges and flies us all into space

The worker that's over an opening on a tank, is hit by a blast and disappears is videogame tier. Really sad. Then there is the video in a foundry with a leak of melted metal that invests a men, he burns for like thirty seconds surrounded by coworkers trying to lower the flames.
>foundry
>no fire extingushers around

>Thread devolves into I’VE SEEN FOOTAGE
Mc Ride would be so proud!

>>13531326
Neat!
>>13531305
>the quantity is shocking, not the quality
In fairness, the quantity of the Chinese is also shocking, and they like to have lots of camera because big brother... so it makes sense that there would be a high quantity of gore videos. But what you’re saying is true.

Why don’t we have a shitton of random Chinese fucking gifs? Sure they’d be low quality and not sexy, but still you’d expect to see some. They do breed.

>>13531403
No you're not.

>>13531427
If you really want a crash that bad, I'm not super opposed to it.
I just don't see Armageddon starting off on Monday. Or Tuesday

Wednesday I might let you have your way

You just want a VIX spike? you bought VIX in the first half of last week and sold on Thursday like I told you to, right?

we're not due for another spike until it gets into the low 12's again, at least under 12.4

All in on $X on Monday
U.S. Steel booming thanks to tariff man

>>13531203
Gays only recently have become fashion experts. And really their styles are flamboyant and unappealing-only celebrated due to virtue signalling.

>>13531474
WHAT. I've been advocating against VIX since the day I put trip on. I just want this economical nightmare to be over man. I'm value investor above all and this shit sucks. But I went into weekend with gold and spx short so crash or dip would be nice. We need crash but we will get the dip, enough for me to take profits, not enough for world to come to senses.

>>13531478
my average cost is 17.71 :(
that's mostly from buying before it went down under 14.50
Actually I've been to a US Steel rolling mill, it was super cool (hot and loud)

>>13531499
ah you shorted SPX at end of Friday or before?
we maybe get one day reversal on Monday, but not even very big. And I'm not seeing it yet
I think flat or up, Friday momentum was all there, small caps joining in,

sun is shining, beautiful weather. All good in USA

until Wednesday
I start to reconsider Tuesday afternoon, but apart any other news, Monday has a good feeling

>>13531526
I shorted some time after FOMC. I don't remember when exactly but you know. FOMC pricing was all over the place so my entry is alright.

We'll see in 40 minutes if futures support your view.

Healthcare has been lagging the market. Would be nice to see money funnel there during this trade war bullshit. A bit optimistic but I can dream.

If the trade deal was already priced in and it isn't coming together what does that mean for the markets? We're going to hit $300 spy by Friday right?

>>13531636
It wasn't fucking priced in................... mark my words we will be fine on monday

>>13531636
316 is my target. There's just not enough money in the system as of now to push us through 315. Therefore, as long as we are below it I can play shorts and longs. To get there we will need fed and global cb stimulus and at this point regardless of positioning and state of economy I'm flipping to long because nothing but stimulus matters

>>13531635
that pic.

OMFG nr1

autor name pls

>>13531636
trade deal isn't 'dead', that's just a headline to get clicks
we'll find out withing the next 150 hours or so if these new tariffs are going to be an impediment or catalyst to getting the deal done

We're still in a neutral zone, as far as the market ex-trade deal AND as far as the trade deal

the bullish case would be that based on the months and months of talks, the Trump negotiators think that they just need a little more leverage to get the deal they want. The trump tweet is to make the inevitable deal happen sooner

or it could all break down in fire and blood
rice and plastic everywhere

who knows

>>13531606
Even if futures do/don't, the important action happens on the open I think
futures boring, especially with the nips away

>>13531635

give me the name of the author FFS

pls

inb4: fuck google image serch ffs...

>>13531727
>Who knows
Nose knows

>>13530821
BILI should be okay if they continue to suck the government's dick. the moment they stop sucking the governments dick you need to pull your money out.

>>13531700
>>13531764

No idea. Saved it from here a while ago.

>>13531794
Holy shit that’s insane, is that a monument to the USSR in their corporate HQ or something?

I haven’t gotten into BILI yet because they haven’t been cheap since I’ve been watching them.

What other China’s should I be watching?

>>13531841
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_China

not the USSR

you only need to watch BILI, other Chinese stocks are unpredictable and overvalued

within a couple years the head of BILI will control a majority of votes of the Chinese central party and will assume control of their government

Bid/Ask on the S&P futures are lining up 10+ handles lower at 2938 right now.

>>13531883
2935 now.

>>13531892
what number are we looking for to start pink wojak posting

>>13531912
Opening print should do it. 2930 now.

Trade deal was somewhat priced in. Everyone went balls deep in shorting VIX which makes me think no one was expecting a no deal.

News tricked everyone into buying by leaking fake stories about deal coming along and deal by Friday.

The news media fucked over everyone. Time to pay the piper.

>>13531922
Futures are spurting blood red.

HUGE FUCKING GAP DOWN HOLY FUCK

>>13531926
It's not a no deal.

>>13531926
You think someone was stupid enough to think trade talks going well for months ? I thought we're just playing like we believe it...

rebound to 1% by 3 hours from now, calling it now

>>13531941
the algos are acting like it is ~

we haven't gone under 2900 yet I think

>>13531959
oh there it goes

that puts us back 2 weeks

>>13531841
>that a monument to the USSR in their corporate HQ or something?


is their office displaying the history of the communist party and xi jinping book. also they even made a communist anime to please their government.

>>13531959
>>13531974
WTF
Where are you watching this? My ticker is stuck

Why daddy Donald? Why?

WOAHHHH
50 POINT GAP DOWN
WHAT
THE HECKIESSSSSSSSSS

>>13531991
It's a flat 2900 hover
the algos are waiting for news

no reason to go below this number unless pure fear takes over

do not
spook the algos

Futures just died.

NASDAQ FUTURES DUMPING MORE THAN 2%

Holy heckies! Did I do the right thing by trimming my VTSMX on Thursday, even though I sat out those mad friday gains?

>>13531981
Yeah! The young Marx anime, right? I want to watch that one!

There were some interesting anime I watched this past year that seemed to be from a Chinese studio, I think i should look into them. To Be Hero was one.

>>13531926
Didn’t news media also report a leak last weak from Chinese saying that trump had been showing weakness or something? I want to say it was India times or something like that, posted about it in /smg/.

>>13531841
>USSR

No, China just still thinks they're communist despite their market economy outweighing their state controlled economy by a substantial margin, and they don't know how to admit otherwise at this time without causing some sort of consternation. see: >>13530348

>ostensibly capitalist country held in check by authoritarian super state

It's really no different than Britain

https://youtu.be/GWDxTUdxo9A

https://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Hamas-Islamic-Jihad-Were-close-to-open-war-with-Israel-588867

Don't worry lads

war with Iran soon

golden bull still on the menu

The heebs won't let our markets dump at a time like this

>>13532040
You have it wrong. Israel wants us in a recession to convince Trump that a war with Iran would stimulate the economy back up.

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

:)

>>13532040
>>13532052
>Palestinians provoke Israel as right as only ally, the US, is being overwhelmed by China trade talks, as well as Venezuela, internal problems re:mueller, etc. etc., and Japan is on vacation

They saw an opportunity. Now I understand why everything seems to happen all at once.

>election campaign gets underway
>deliberately tanks the fucken market
>A market he had tied his name to

I like Trump but seriously. Time to get off Twitter. Be stable.

Spring Equity Sale extended! For me, it's SPYD on margin

Yea.. I think I'm back

Flat at the open :)

woah what the fuck!?!?! I should've bought puts on SPY!!

I got some puts on AAPL though.. that usually behaves like the market r-right?

>>13532092
At this point I'm already SL here so profits made, fuck bulls, back to pretending we go

>>13532107
Do you still think there can be a short squeeze in LCI in this type of market condition?

No position.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bgq77R0WbXs

Something I think a lot of people forget:

The earth is only so big. Most of it is uninhabitable (water/to cold/to hot,etc). Toss in x amount of land required for growing food and your remaining livable land for your population is very small indeed (compared to the earth as a whole).

Population is growing at an exponential rate now soon (100 yrs maybe) the world will be like Japan's cities are now; cramped and crowded with golf courses on the tops of skyscrapers along with your swimming pools,etc.

Thank god we won't be around to witness it. Our generation will be long dead before that happens.

I'm holding $AMZN and $AZN calls till 24th May... am I fucked? No, right? I'm fine. I will be fine, right?

All shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well...

>>13532072
O shit !
someone watch Venezuela

>>13532117
>Do you still think there can be a short squeeze in LCI in this type of market condition?
Yes.

If anything it'll bring some more bears in to short it.. the people holding LCI are holding LCI imo they aren't trying to trade it with the market. It may fluctuate a little but it's a microcap.. it could do anything. I've seen microcaps moon while the rest of the market is red.. i'm sure you have too.

So how we feeling about plug going into earnings?

>>13532117
It might be slower instead of a lot at once but it will happen. Pic related. The bear thesis is wrong.

Fug.

>>13532192
>>13532192
>>13532192
>>13532192


NEW
boring OP

>>13532164
LCI doing big things to turn that company around and perfect timing too. The new CEO is aggressive and has a lot of experience in the pharmaceutical business.

LCI is a sleeping giant.. it could actually trend up above $50 within a 12 month period of time imo.

>>13532158
Excited I’m still holding bat 1.85 from when plug shill came here and I’m not disappointed

Fuck they say hindsight's 20/20. True for me. Wish I'd gotten into the market and bagged my T babies at age 20 instead of age 36.

According to my handy spreadsheet (stole it from seeking alpha) if I bagged my 149 T babies at age 20 and held them till 65, 45 years, I'd have $9,954.351 in Divvy income and a shit load of shares 32,480 or thereabouts.

>>13532205
I read the conference call transcript last night from February. Zero doubt it's a great long term hold.

The only thing scaring me was that confidential filing from a few weeks ago.

>>13531833
its F pure gold

>>13532270
>The only thing scaring me was that confidential filing from a few weeks ago.
the confidential filing was already released.. it was an S-8.. its just a registration for employees shares. Currently very very minimal so kinda irrelevant desu..

>>13530348

Biden's not getting the nomination. Old white men aren't needed by the modern Democrat party any more.

>>13532117
That isn't Big5Guy, he would never type

>r-right

>>13532280
You are not Big5Guy

>>13532355
I fully predict that if whatever disaster of a candidate the Democrats put up wins then the stock market will drop 50% within that year.

We buying DF at these prices?

https://twitter.com/CNBCnow/status/1125188945518694400

already people reporting they have stopped considering and have actually canceled

rip in peps

The same low iq nigger whos shilling dean foods now was also shilling it at 10.