/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>13513015
who else up 4X on atom thanks to poloniex? fuck timo

>>13513015
Fuck clc group not getting funded means we don't want independent nodes. I had no fucking idea, this isn't what I want, better buy 100k timos.

So good watching these arrogant fucks get burned. The biz hivemind that deduced link as the chosen one has also come to the conclusion that clc groups cash grab is bunk. If what they are selling is so necessary and great, then they will make it anyway and if they don't it proves it wasn't as integral to the ecosystem as they would have you believe. The hivemind had also decided that timo is a bitch boy faggot, his swing trading was merely one element, but his V-neck tops elucidate the kind of man he really is. Hiding behind pictures taken three years ago, before he became bloated with the complexion of goose fat. Clc groups desperate attempts to try bombard biz with same fags, obvious shilling pleading that biz just doesn't get it, without realising it was understood clearly from the beginning, burak isn't a genius, just another average intellect trying to extract shekels from people he believes are stupid enough to fall for it. This is a Chinese hustle from within the link community, a blight on what some people consider the most rascicst and abrasive within crypto, said community saying as much about this scam tells you all you need to know.

>>13513125
Good post

>>13513097
>not getting funded means we don't want independent nodes
Actually I do, it's good for the ecosystem health. But I don't want to throw my money to this wannabe-scammer kiddo.

>>13513015
Should I buy CLC or fantom?

>>13513125
Based

>>13513097
Everyone who's interested in decentralization is burger

>>13513204
Buy both and fuck off of biz

What type of scam is this? ICO for a business that supports an ICO that has never released a product.

LINKies tearing their own kind apart like crabs in a bucket

>we don't want any competition reeeeeee
>we don't want anybody else to have nodes reeeeee
>the ecosystem is only supported by our memes reeeeee

So glad I swing traded LINK, made my profit and got the fuck out of that vaporware shitcoin project. Whew lad.

>>13513294
>we don't want any competition reeeeeee
It's not competition, imho it could've been a useful service if it wasn't a biz scam from the start
>we don't want anybody else to have nodes reeeeee
Personally, I only don't want toxic pajeets to run away with my linkies and offer nothing
>the ecosystem is only supported by our memes reeeeee
That's why you didn't buy it, you can't see beyond the memes. They literally exist to keep dumb fuck like you occupied while smart money do their things
>So glad I swing traded LINK, made my profit and got the fuck out of that vaporware shitcoin project
Actually nobody cares, go on Instagram and make a story about it maybe

I bet they hope the softcap isnt reached so they can cut you chucklefucks out

>>13513125
based

>>13513204
buy fantom you fuck

>>13513125
based post. dont buy in and they will be fine anyway why would you need to?

CL =Cryplets
Chainlink

>>13513294
I'm going to run my own nodes

>>13513125
B&R

Could have used a, "fuck JANNIES" at the end. 9/10

>>13513125
The most concise BTFO of CLCG yet. Well done

>using real name and picture in anonymous group
not gonna make it

>>13513015
what a fat cuck
"the world wasnt ready for us, they aren't mature enough to understand I am special"
fuck timo, he doesn't deserve our money

WONT SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE DECENTRALIZATION?

>>13513125
thanks just bought 100k

>>13513227
LINKception

The fact that they had Timo on their team who had been shilling link for like half a year and then right before CLC he says he sold his LINK stack proves that the team is so incompetent that they couldn't see how this is problematic.
>but it doesnt matter its his own personal stack
It is still in conflict since they are building on the Chainlink network that Timo had just shorted. Why would I trust a CLC built on Chainlink if one of their team members doesn't even believe in Chainlink. Just so unprofessional.

>>13514300
Now Timo is threating by implying that Chainlink will take a big hit cuz people aren't giving CLC money. Jesus christ.

>>13514300
muh timo fud checked

>>13514313
>FUD
I would say there is zero doubt and absolutely certainty

>>13514344
muh absolute state of "absolutely certainty", thanks just bought 100k spellcheCLCG

>>13513125
burak has a phd

>>13514365
Absolute certain it's a cash grab by a bunch of unqualified literal whos

>>13514384
>"absolute certain"
>CLCG are unqualified
my man, you need a proofreader to continue this argument at least. Try the same one you employ to fill in your food stamps application.

If chainlink launches without support for an official API marketplace like salesforce then it will fail even if CLC group has the softcap and launches their own neet version of the marketplace

CLC fudders are unironically retarded

>>13514384
Hey maybe this is an argument you should "ran" by the official team ifyknwim

>>13514384
Lay off the drinks my guy.

>>13514456
Found the guy that licks Timos balls when he snaps his fingers

>>13514421
>>13514466
>>13514486

>>13513879
how did you contact the providers? Been trying to connect with providers but most just ignore my emails

CLC is such a shitshow but so far they're the only ones resolving many issues I've encountered

>>13514520
Good, your posts make sense when you don't try to use those tricky words. Now try buying 100k CLCG MOFO

>>13513125
utterly based

>>13514466
checked based and jonnypilled

>>13514313
>>13514365
>>13514421
Are you gonna put something rational on the table or just keep stuttering?
>>13514466
Also why even bother if you're already here
>>13514527
>tricky words
They're called provable facts, all you have to do is watching pics related and stop sucking cocks
>>13514693
Jonny (or linkpool) has nothing to do with clcg

>>13513125
incredibly based post

>>13513125

>>13514382
so do I and plenty of phd colleagues of mine are idiots

>>13514988
Checked but don't even bother replying to desperate low quality shills

>>13513125
This x100000

So far none has yet addressed this: how else can we obtain subscription-based API calls? How can <20k linklets convince providers like https://flightaware.com/commercial/flightxml/ to provide them a unique deal? I just want neet nodes to not be just a dream. CLC is shit so where else can we look forward to?

>>13515102
Neet nodes was only a meme. The network does not need little shits. We were all supposed to have a seat on the plane, thats it. Only reason Neet nodes came up was people wanted to earl cheap link until they couldnt anymore. And if timo is making it out to be that big of a deal i will just buy more link and hold. There is no reason what so ever to buy clc. Is it a good idea sure, do i want to put money into it or just buy more link and then stake with link pool The latter sounds way better then clc

>>13515140
yet the founder of LP, whose entire purpose is to give the average person a better chance to compete againts corporate AAA nodes, has been invited to join the chainlink team

>>13515140
clc haters are so dumb wow

>>13513125
Imagine the good you could do in the world if you put 1/4th the effort in real life as you did in this post. You could literally be the next hitler.

>>13515140
I can't believe some of these faggots want to run nodes. It pretty much seems like we will be rich as fuck. if I have 40 million dollars why would I want to run a fucking node? The only way I would be tempted to actually run one is dropping a few million to do a brain transplant from an autistic NEET into a hot blonde escort that would live at my place and run the node on my computer as I jerk off and nut on her 5 times a day while she's rubbing it. Otherwise I'd want nothing to do with running some faggot node

>>13515140
The neet node ideal is similar to
how Cregjay talks about raspberry pi nodes.

>>13513294
you never held the coin and your a subhuman XRP nigger holding a 41 billion supply kike scam coin that's never replacing SWIFT or working with them, unlike ChainLink.

>>13514588
Kek.
Nice try with this shilling.
They're only selling 10% of their ownership. If they were selling 2k-4k for 60-70 percent of their "company" it would be far more responsible for them.
Due to the fact that they don't have a goddamn product, and just some shit written in MS Word, the risk for investor's is too high.

THAT is why people are not investing.
They're too goddamn narcissistic to figure it out and I've been asking them the same fucking question anytime they shill anything on plebbit

>>13515102
You're fucking retarded.
Maybe you should invest in CLC, considering you're their target market.

If you want to provide the fucking API data, you buy access to the fucking API data.
If it costs a lot of money, you write up a contract that says something like "first 100 calls = .5LINK a pop. After that you hit 0.005/call pricing.
This gets your API access paid for quicker then you start to make the expected profit.

KYS you brainlet

>>13514300
This. The idea is sound, but Timo has openly proven himself to be a total cunt, and linkies aren't gonna take it. Fuck Timo. Fuck V-necks. Fuck CLC.

He is a stain that will never be removed or forgotten.

It's Timo or your business, Burak

>>13513015
>"we promise givesie-backsies if we don't fulfill our cap, don't worry!"
>"also I decided to buy back into real LINK since we didn't get enough all-in neets to sell their LINK for our ETH ICO"
>"but you can have your funds back now! Good luck!"

>>13516319
Nice post virgin

>>13516677
what are you talking about?

Providers flat out ignore your email if you don't make it clear you're a semi-whale with multiple nodes, not to mention to process of convincing them to tailor a fucking plan for a literal who

>buy the access to the fucking API data
that's the issue. You can't without putting yourself at huge risk and large commitment. Say if I only want to serve sports related APIs for 3 months but providers only allow up-front payment for 1 year fixed contracts, what can you do? Negotiate with them as a literal who gets you nowhere

Also, what the fuck is up with biz suddenly discouraging marines to run nodes?

>>13517025
Thats not whats happening, stop being disingenuous.
This is CLCG faggots trying to tell NEETs that their node will be useless without them.

Fuck Timo
Fuck Burak for not firing the fag
Fuck any kike scammer company who wants to take advantage of this honorable, baste and redpilled community

>>13517049
So far I have yet to see a proper answer on how linklets could access subscription based APIs with large upfront cost. A few anon has been consistently drowning out the topic with blatant lies and bait

All of a sudden everyone's saying to not run a node and things will work out

Same retardation was getting spewed around when LP was in ICO
>"fuck LP, just run your own node!"
>"LP is centralization and detrimental to the network, we should be running our own to ensure decentralization"

>>13517181
You mean like paying for them yourself?
Do some research, not everything is as expensive as you think

https://rapidapi.com/apidojo/api/bloomberg-market-and-financial-news/pricing

If Timo is more competent than you, then maybe you need to try harder...or give up

>>13517215
so you're going to commit yourself to one data source for eternity? What happens when you're expecting temporary uptick in demand for various APIs due to chaotic social trends or unforeseen events?

>>13513125
The cringe and delusion in your post are only belittled by the false praising groupfagging it got.

>>13517215
Not to mention how misleading that link is - you're looking at at least 100k calls if you want to earn anything significant on your node

$200 per month is the fucking baseline, and it bounds you to ONE single API type

>>13517293
Thanks just called 100k

>>13516940
It's done by smart contract trench brain

You faggots have been complaining for a year about linkpools 25% fee, now you want to run your own node, at your own cost, and give that Timo cunt a cut for EVERY SINGLE API call you make
yikes

>60%
fuck em

>>13513125
Based and redpilled

>>13515102
>>13515140
We aren't supposed to be able to tap into big companies APIs. That's up to the company to provide on a price/call basis with their own node. That way the company takes a reputation hit if they provide wrong data. neet nodes are not required for this model to succeed. If you have 100 neets all providing access to the same API it doesn't lower the risk of the API giving wrong data. If neets run their own nodes then it's neets fault if the API fucks up and gives the neet the wrong data which the neet supplies to the smart contract. It's better to shift that risk onto the company that's supplying the data in the first place.

>>13513015
I'm out of the loop. Who is this?

>>13516661
Yeah this is a big one for me, they could have lowered their companies valuation by selling 20% for 2k or even 30% for 4k and they might have got it.

>>13516677
You can't resell the data if you pay for an API, that's pretty common sense. If you could you could just offer cheaper subscriptions to other people by routing them through the API you pay for.

Because of this you buy a weather API for example for $30/month and sell calls for $1 hoping to get more than 30 calls in that month. That shit is illegal.

>>13515102
>So far none has yet addressed this
Maybe because we're still on fucking testnet? The thing needs 1. To start 2. To gain traction 3. To mature, THEN all the concerns will be addressed with plenty of solutions.
You can't fine tune something that doesn't still work, let alone doing it for fuckin neets.
All you have to do now is accumulating as many link as you can, once mainnet drop we'll see
>>13516842
>It's Timo or your business, Burak
>Burak
This is bait. Clcg is already dead, if in any case you throw money at these rookies you deserve to lose it all, period.
>>13518017
A /biz/raeli smug kid about to get burned for life, that wants your money in exchange of a promise on top of another promise, that publicly dumped the project that is trying to sell you and insults you if you don't buy his bags.
Whoever fall for this is utterly retarded.

>>13517181
>>13517215
>>13517293
see >>13518043

Giving ur money to Turkish Muslims tnx biz allahuakbar

>>13518043
You don't just resell access to an api though. You offer a service that makes the api data accesible to smart contracts while also incurring financial risk that the data provider might not want to bear themselves (i.e. exposure to penalty payments for delivery of inaccurate data).

>>13517181
>>13517215
>>13517293
>>13518043
>>13518053
Stop with this faggotry already, you're trying to build a tesla when the wheel has yet to come out. Don't be autismo and understand how real world adoption works.
Protip: it works BUT it takes time

>>13518049
Maybe they are doing it because they know very soon we will not be on testnet anymore

>>13518082
The sales end in July, we all know that consensus is really soon. Don't you think they would like to have their product finished as soon as possible when mainnet launch?

>>13518110
>>13518123
Yes, mainnet is around the corner. No, neets nodes are no priority, big player first. No, clc has no right to exist for now.

>>13518043
>node operation is reselling data
False. May as well sell your link if true.

>You could just offer cheaper subscriptions to other people by routing them through the API you pay for.
You're making the case for why tokenization of API calls is the future. You wouldn't be 'subscribing' to providers - they'd release tokens that you can consume to access a single API call, and these tokens can be bought or sold on a dedicated exchange much like crypto.

>>13518161
that's the fucking point of a presale - to give them time for a MVP so they can have an STO come 2020, and a complete product will be ready, operational and with multiple providers onboard come 2021.

>>13514312
Source

>>13518165
you're in for a rude awakening fren

>>13517894
Actually that's 70%

>>13518180
An ICO is ok to me, but an ICO on top of another ICO is way too much. That's why I don't hold any linkpool either, despite the fact that jonny is way more based than these kiddos.
Do what you wanna do, personally I'll wait to see mainnet in motion and more competition to pop up in the side projects like lp and clc.
>>13518207
It's literally in the OP pic related, dumb fuck

>>13518246
Agreed. Someone once said LINK is one and only, but companies building on top of it are not.

>>13518071
>>13518165
Try arguing in court that getting money in exchange for a piece of data you bought form company x is not reselling the data.

While it's not legal though, like scalping tickets, or downloading movie torrents, it may be hard to enforce. So if that proves to be the case and many people are taking the risk I'm sure if lucrative enough the companies who owns the data will start making price/calls for chainlink nodes.

I would expect to see many big node operations set up in countries with relaxed copyright laws initially.

>>13518279
Exactly, you should carefully draw the line between an investment and a gamble

>>13516661
Exactly. This is the main problem. The valuation is too high, they are selling just a 10% and asking for 2000 ETH. When you address this issue they call you retard. Either eliminate the soft cap or sell 20% of the equity on presale.

>>13518325
there are no countries where you can resell data from and even if the nodes can hide away, listing services will be hounded down like piratebay

>>13518325
great points.
argument:
>it is illegal to resell a subscription-based product
>hard to enfore people from doing it

but, once again, that's why tokenization of API calls is the future. Each token grants holders access to a single API call forever until upon consumption. API calls become tokenized as utility tokens with its supply artificially limited by the providers themselves.

>>13518246
>It's literally in the OP pic related, dumb fuck
No, it's not. He said he was threatening with consequences for the ecosystem you dumb semen slurper v-necked fuck

>>13518325
kek stop scaremongering Timo, so wrong its funny
clc fags are the worst thing that happened to /biz/

>>13517215
i love how i never saw this on /biz/ until i posted it on a super secret discord.

>>13518071
This is correct.
Whoever the faggot is that is disagreeing (it's Timo and his gang of backdoor bandits--im taking you out of the closet, Timo) with you is a moron.

>>13519102
You're a faggot too.
>Look at me. I googled Stock Price API.

3 FUCKING MONTHS and these scammers have had 2 devs produce nothing.

>>13513125
Facts

>>13518071
Imagine the mental gymnastics you'd have to go through to believe that API providers won't choose to interpret their terms of service in the way that makes them the most money. Spoiler alert, it's not this way.

>>13514421
They recruited off biz a thread was made, then a discord, then came a 7 million valuation. Topfuckingkek

>>13519433
You have NO idea what you're talking about you brainlet.
Uber.
Let's pretend you're an Uber driver.
>(Based on your brainpower, you may consider this as a good career, just FYI)
You use the Uber app to find pickup locations and delivery destinations.
These locations are fed to you via Google Maps APIs.
Do you (the driver) have to pay for the Google API calls you're using?
>Hint: No.
====
Let's pretend you have enough money to be a customer with Uber
>(See the hypothetical way for you to make money I provided you above, ya retard)
You hail a Uber car to take you to your dad's house (because your mom is tired of wiping your ass three times a day--its his turn).
Do you pay for the Google Maps APIs you're using?
>Hint: No.

I'm laughing at how dumb you are.

How is clc different from linkpool?

>>13519595
If you don't think Uber have to pay to allow their drivers to use a nice Google maps based interface, I'm afraid even driving for them may be beyond you

Fuck this retarded FUD. I’m in 20eth. Support innovation and linklets to think and act outside the box. If you can’t afford to risk and invest in link marines then you’re just a salty poorfag cuck.

>>13519636
Yes.
You pay per call.
Or if you have enough calls, you can prolly negotiate a better rate.
My point was the end users, you sub 70

>>13513125
based Sergey post

>>13519926
>Hurr durr Uber have negotiated a per call rate for API access but I for some reason don't approve of a project doing the same thing on behalf of node operators
The absolute state of biz

>>13513125
based and scampilled

>>13517818
The logic still applies unless their contract allows investors to remove their ETH at their own discretion, which would be an even more retarded red flag.

>>13518161
>No, clc has no right to exist for now.

Just like Israel

Timo is becoming the craig wright version of chainlink

>>13520360
>Uber pay Google for their maps API use
>Therefore if I invest in clcg I should be able to have my investment returned if I want
Anon, I...

>>13514527
are you Ant/Nasa? you are the least liked motherfucker in the entir discord, fucking piece of shit get your scam and shove it up your ass

>>13514456
we get it, you're retarded

>>13519439
This, this and this, it was honked from the beginning. At this point you could very well buy chancoin, unironically same thing

>>13519619
They're literally two words apart you fucking nigger, from the concept to the quality of execution. But if jonny and OG link team will find something like clc necessary for the ecosystem they'll simply build it straight away.
Keep in mind that link is the real deal, linkpool the first legit (but jewing) attempt as an additional service and clc is the first attempted scam. Nothing more to say

>>13520879
*worlds

>>13520625
You're lacking some comprehension.

And the thread started with an image claiming "if CLCG can't get their cap it will refund", so yeah that's actually what's up and its retarded.

>>13513125
The same agrument should be used to prove that LINK was just a cash grab. If LINK was so important they would just build it anyway without a token sale. They had SWIFT. They definitely didn't need your money.

>>13513125 #
The same agrument should be used to prove that LINK was just a cash grab. If LINK was so important they would just build it anyway without a token sale. If they really had SWIFT they definitely didn't need your money.

>>13513125
The same agrument should be used to prove that LINK was just a cash grab. If LINK was so important they would just build it anyway without a token sale. If they really had SWIFT they definitely didn't need your money.

>>13520879
Good point. Like if Microsoft want a decentralized oracle solution they'll just build it?

>>13522038
>comparing the solution to the oracle problem to /biz/ API's Shopify
No (((anon))), you should understand the difference between a product and a feature

>>13522024
Link is unironically the one and only crypto project that never shilled his bags, ever. All the shitshow was biz's fault, the team probably hates you (and that's a good thing)

>>13522115
If it's a software/web based solution to a problem people have, that makes money, it sure sounds like a product to me. Obviously its not as good as a solution to the oracle problem, but if it is one of the first movers building on it it could do very well

>>13522191
Well then, go sell your chrome extensions kek

>>13520376
Especially Pisrael.

>>13522212
Glad you didn't say firefox

>>13522218
I would, but looks like Brave is a thing, which confirms
>the absolute state
Bingo, you could buy BAT

>>13522250
Thanks just bought 100k BAT

>>13522337
I wouldn't be surprised at all

>>13513015
or maybe it means the community thinks your team and you are scammers?

>>13522177
not the only one, but yeah it's rare.

>>13522038
https://medium.com/chainlink/go-chainlink-37cb077fae31
From Steve Ellis himself:
>A big consideration when planning (the Chainlink network) was to enable people to run Chainlink in as many places as possible. An important tenet of Chainlink is a diversity of inputs. We want to make a Chainlink node affordable to run and easy to install, so that people all over the world can run one on whichever computing platform they choose. So, make it accessible and do so without compromising on security or developer productivity.


https://medium.com/chainlink/chainlink-an-overview-and-our-focus-14f03335b803
From Sergey Nazarov:
>We’re currently working with multiple data providers, payment networks, and various API services, which we are actively enabling to be these key building blocks for the next highly successful smart contract. If you have data feeds, payments, and/or APIs which you want to sell to smart contracts, we’re here to make that process easy to implement; please feel free to email us at support@smartcontract.com, or sign-up to be contacted about your API.

THEY ARE ALREADY WORKING ON IT. You are overlapping Chainlink team's development.

>>13523205
great point, thank you

From Heikki in discord:
"Yes, we have discussed our plans with many members of the Chainlink team, inc Sergey. There does not seem to be any overlap or conflict between what our two teams are currently working on. In our experience, the Chainlink team is very welcoming to third party projects building services on top of their tech. However it should be noted that as we all know, they are quite tight-lipped about any specifics."

pic related, from their cto

>>13523205
Kekekekekek based
>>13523463
>we have discussed our plans with many members of the Chainlink team, inc Sergey
>they are quite tight-lipped about any specifics
New phone, who dis?
C-can I mak-
Don't call back ever again *click*
>B-but he doesn't say no, amirite?

>>13522024
I NEED MORE KONO.

Shes unironically better ther jordan peterson. She shows you how to clean your room. Not just judges like that jew lover

>>13522024
I NEED MORE KONDO

Shes unironically better than jordan peterson. She shows you how to clean your room. Not just judges like that jew lover

>>13523205
What do you think of this FUD?

>>13522177
Checking facts

Link is so fucking shit, god fucking damn just kys linkies., cheggum ->

>>13513125
Based

$1000 EOY