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>>13516232
Where are you BSV faggots at? What's suetoshi gonna do?

>>13516232
This is it.

>>13516232
Wow a court of law actually had the ability to call him out, who would have thought?
If you are in SV you need to get the fuck out.

Holy shit

>>13516366
>https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/6309656/166/kleiman-v-wright/
do the opposite get the fuck in

>>13516460
You do realize he cannot possibly comply with any of those court ordered demands don't you ?
This whole facade exists as long as the genesis wallet is left out of the mix.

wonder what excuse he'll come up this time for not being able to comply

>>13516296
>>13516469
Aside from when he does and his identity becomes irrefutable.

Can we ban these jewish dialectic craig vs real btc kike trickery threads?

If this isnt jewish engineered propaganda to keep the goyim busy between 2 kosher sides, i dont know what is

>>13516232
Kreg is a 1-man circus.

>PlaintiffS
>tiffS
>Stiff
>S T I F F

>>13516494

>P L A I N S T I F F*

>>13516232
>muh law
lmao absolutely rekt

my nigger satoj is getting some serious delirium tremens soon

>>13516490
and the real Bitcoin is?...

>inb4 the world governments force a fork of bitcoin that gives satoshi's btc to craig (case he doens't have the private keys lmao) in exchange for half of it funding israel and arrest anyone runing a node of bitcoin core

>>13516486
Why would Satoshi literally the king of own your own money decentralized currency put his private keys in a blind trust?
It makes zero sense.

>>13516624
Why would he buy a domain with a credit card?

>>13516232
One week from now, new CSW medium post: Why I am an anarchist and why I will always disregard the courts.

>>13516590
Beancash

>>13516681
the protocol is set in stone because the devs just don't feel like working ;)

>>13516624
To have legal protection from the Australian tax thugs. If he had access to them, legally he would have to forfeit them so he gave control to a trust.

He ofc memorized his seed phrase because of his photographic memory. So he has stayed permanently drunk since 2011 in order to not violate the terms of the trust. In 2020 when he sobers up we are in for a hell of a show.

>>13516710
Based and boozepilled

>>13516232
hes founded his own currency - the Next Level, he just to found his own country now. BIAS Murican (& Oz etc) Laws and Extradition and Shit shall Never be Applicable in Cregdonia. No amounts of state-sponsored torture, watersporting, public humiliations or Indefinite Jails for Contempt shall ever make the Secretive, Sensitive and Shy Cregtoshi reveal hidden wallets, on Principles. The Cregster may die in Prisons from Infinite Contempt, his idea Shall Live On

I'll miss this crab market
the most absurd garbage threads we've had about this aussie real life shit poster were amusing

>>13516681
>>13516697
just sprouting all day and every day.

>>13516232
Just expect 3 more forgeries

The so called "Tulip Trust" has always seemed like a pile of horseshit to me. Even if it's real, the notion that it can possibly contain the original Satoshi's keys is ridiculously absurd.

>>13518034

tulip trust is verifiably fake. https://blog.wizsec.jp/2018/02/kleiman-v-craig-wright-bitcoins.html

>>13517697
Kek

>>13516710
>In 2020
There are more chance Chainlink will be worth 1M$

CSW is a fraud and fried air seller

>>13517697
no they were not amusing you just made fun of the good doctors diapers!

Craig Right is the Billy Meier of crypto.

Eduard Albert Meier (born February 3, 1937) is a Swiss citizen who is the source of many photographs of alleged unidentified flying objects (UFOs), which he presents in support of his claim that he is in contact with extraterrestrial beings. He also presented other material during the 1970s such as metal samples, sound recordings and film footage. Meier reports regular contacts with extraterrestrials he calls the Plejaren.

In 1997, Meier's ex-wife, Kalliope, told interviewers that his photos were of spaceship models he crafted with items like trash can lids, carpet tacks and other household objects,[18] and that the stories he told of his adventures with the aliens were similarly fictitious. She also said that photos of purported extraterrestrial women "Asket" and "Nera" were really photos of Michelle DellaFave and Susan Lund, members of the singing and dancing troupe The Golddiggers.[9]

In an interview, he said that the FBI sneaked into his house and replaced real photos with fabricated ones lol

>>13516296
You wrote exactly what he is going to do, why are you asking this?

>>13518562
>Creig Fraudtoshi escape jail time for frauding thousand of people by living in international water on a petrol platform while hiding from Ayre hitmans
Kek

>>13516232
If the court claims that he is not Satoshi, can he sue the court?

>>13518637
he can try

Read this. It's quite hilarious.

>>13518707
he sure seems confident. I mean why would he continue all these charades if he didn't have anything at all to back up his claims? why would he be suing dozens of people, literally jumping at the chance to take this to court if he was lying about it all?

why does csw know so many things about bitcoin that nobody else talked about before him? like the small world graph network topology, the turing completeness and the reason for double-sha256, among many others?

>>13518718
Maybe because Satoshi was an anonymous, long-gone individual/persona that can't and won't defend his name in court, and there is possibly very little risk in impersonating him, while the reward is huge. That's what I tend to believe desu.

What do you think bitcoin is, an enigma machine? Its code has been revamped since the real Satoshi left, and is audited all the time. Lots of people know the intricacies of bitcoin, it's open source and the most known cryptocurrency.

>>13518637
>>13518682
Great Emperor Creggerstoshi recognizes the jurisdiction of no Earthly Court over His Person - troll witnesses and faked evidence, ever-rising mountains of faked evidence, be damned. Historians studying His genial legacy shall weep for our shamefur mistreatment of this brilliant mind. Splitting what is basically the same request into three separate contempt-actionable demands, each with different deadline? he's being slow-boiled now

>>13518718
>why does csw know so many things about bitcoin that nobody else talked about before him?
he doesnt he is usually 10 hours to 5 days late on any news.

>he sure seems confident. I mean why would he continue all these charades if he didn't have anything at all to back up his claims of seeing aliens? why does he know so many things about aliens and UFOs that nobody else talked about before him?

>>13516232
a sworn declaration? well i never

>>13518718
You do realize that people aren't acting rational. He believes he is invincible because he has been pretty succesful with threatening and deceiving people. For instance, Professors at Universities are bitches and they will often back down when threatened a lawsuit. I read through his PhD thesis and as a CS undergrad there isn't anything insightful or sophisticated in it, though maybe that goes for a lot of dissertations.

Basically he is selling you his confidence and his degree, but it's very likely it will burst and before that the few insiders will have already sold.

>>13518754
still seems possible Kleiman was satoshi, or maybe the programmer employed by Craig (or Calvin Ayre)
>craig and ayre have the idea to create an alternative currency because of the laws against online gambling
>hire Klieman to implement it
>Klieman dies, or is killed
>Klieman had proof of satoshi's identity and even the original coins and they are lost
>Wright has no proof of anything but still wants to be known as Satoshi

>>13518973
It's true that the first bitcoin prototype contained poker sketches (btw Martti is the earliest bitcoin programmer alive who worked with Satoshi himself in 2009), but it's hard to conceive of bitcoin as a business venture like Craig states, especially considering all the anonymity, cypherpunk stuff etc. Bitcoin was essentially a black swan event. Nobody could suspect it would become any more successful than World Of Warcraft Gold or rise above 1 cent.

>>13518973
It's true that the first bitcoin prototype contained poker sketches (btw Martti is the earliest bitcoin programmer alive who worked with Satoshi himself in 2009), but it's hard to conceive of bitcoin as a business venture like Craig states, especially considering all the anonymity, cypherpunk stuff etc. Bitcoin was essentially a black swan event. Nobody could suspect it would become any more successful than World Of Warcraft Gold or rise above 1 cent.

>>13519138
the early anonymous/libertarian shtick was to get those early adopters involved, they would be the only types to go for this sort of thing

once it was bootstrapped past the wild west/anarchy stage (we are here), its time for bitcoin to grow up and play within the rules of the real world. btc cucks are hilarious when they pretend to be these anarchists skating the laws while at the same time convincing themselves wall street is gonna pump their useless bags

>>13519154
>its time for bitcoin to grow up and play within the rules of the real world.
bitcoin doesn't need to play by anyone's rules to function. fuck off statist cuck!

>>13519162
This. If anything wallstreet needs to play by bitcoins rules.

>>13519154
There is a shabby Android game called Flappy Bird. Its creator, Vietnamese amateur Dong Nguyen, raked in millions. Now imagine if Dong Nguyen suddenly died, and the next day some guy called Rajesh Jamapoor popped up claiming that Flappy Bird was his elaborate business venture all along, Dong Nguyen was merely a hired code monkey, and all the revenue from Flappy Bird belongs to Rajesh. What would you think of it?

>>13519162
shut the fuck up retard. go live in the congo u cringy anarchist

>>13519208
i'm not an anarchist at all, for all thing physical we need the rule of law for all things crypto we fucking don't.

>>13519218
but of course one could argue the difference is just how we organize jurisdictions and authority.

>>13518886
No you dont faggot

>>13519201

FUCK OFF RAJESH YOU PAJEET PEICE OF SHITE

>>13518707

he knows his days are numbered

>>13518855
all farkin gospel trooth, innit, cunts?
>No Mr Wright, not that kind of sworn declaration

In his first email to Satoshi Nakamoto, in May 2009, Martti had offered his services:

"I would like to help with Bitcoin, if there’s something I can do," he wrote.

Before reaching out to Satoshi, Martti had written about Bitcoin on anti-state.org, a forum dedicated to the possibility of an anarchist society organized only by the market. Using the screen name Trickster, Martti gave a brief description of the Bitcoin idea and asked for thoughts:

"What do you think about this? I’m really excited about the thought of something practical that could truly bring us closer to freedom in our lifetime :-)"

Martti included a link to this post in his first email to Satoshi, and Satoshi quickly read it and responded.

"Your understanding of Bitcoin is spot on," Satoshi wrote back.

"A primer to explain Bitcoin to the world"

Satoshi quickly gave Martti practical suggestions for how he could help the project. The most important was the simplest: to leave his computer on with the Bitcoin program running. Five months after Bitcoin was launched, it was still not possible to trust that someone somewhere was running the Bitcoin program.

As to the more complicated programming needs, Satoshi told Martti that there was "not much that’s easy right now." But, Satoshi added, the Bitcoin website did need introductory material for beginners and Martti seemed like the right person for the job.

"My writing is not that great — I am a much better coder," Satoshi wrote, encouraging Martti to try his hand.

Two days later, Martti proved Satoshi right by sending a lengthy but accessible document addressing seven basic questions, ready to be posted on the Bitcoin website. Martti provided straightforward, if occasionally stilted, answers to questions like, "Is Bitcoin safe?" and "Why should I use Bitcoin?"

Satoshi liked the document so much that Martti was quickly given full credentials for the Bitcoin website, allowing him to make any improvements he wanted.

>>13519424
I wonder how Craig's shills would comment on this.

>>13516477
Checked, I bet it'll be because he's getting cyber bullied by trolls and if he proved how much money he's """got in a trust""" then the bullies would realise he's actually Satoshi and kill themselves from guilt. So he's going to be noble, and decent, and true to himself, and in contempt of court in order to do the right thing and save those poor deluded trolls from themselves

What will happen to BSV price the day satoshi receive the coins from the tulip trust?

>>13519424
martti is a fraud just like roger ver, who desperately tries to grab hold of anything related to bitcoin to tie him to the creator and earn some of his glory by any means

>>13519484
singularity

>>13519486
>they don't acknowledge Creg Satoj Rajt and his master Calvin, how dare they...

>>13519484
Keep dreaming

>>13516345
it literally is

>>13519484

>>13519484
when bitcoin drops sv drops when bitcoin goes up sv drops

>>13519743
Yes, with a but. There exist extremely wealthy whales who enjoy riding on public sentiments. You could observe them pump BSV during BTC drops in the past (before it fell further down). It was meant to create a false illusion of flippening and "Satoshi's activity" to lure in the buying mass when in reality it was just whales.

>>13519836
i don't really care about p&d shenanigans

>>13519484
The notion of the Tulip Trust sounds really, really nonsensical to me. Isn't the private key supposed to be unalienable, something that you own once and for good?

>>13520072
you could do multisig/smart contract trusts without compromising that but satoshis coins were never moved. craig is a retard and everyone that falls for him is a brainlet.

>>13520161
It could simply be Dave's and Craig's mined coins, without any relation to Satoshi. Still sketchy, though.

>>13520265
the coins craig listed were sure as hell not in any trust either. mtgox wallets and whatnot. well tehcnically the mtgox trustee may disagree kek.

>>13516232
if he's satoshi, why is he not raided by mafia or migrant family when he's alone so that they could steal all he has

>>13520373
Cause it's in a trust he can't access until 2020 dumbass

>>13516232
I don't get this thread?
Why is it a bad thing that he has to show proof of the trust thing?

>>13520393
so in 2020 he's basically dead ? kek

"There is a trust as I noted. Less than 200,000 Bitcoin remain. We need 100,000 to make the bank idea work. I cannot touch these yet even if I want to. And right now, I do. That stated, I will not move more now in any event.Dave held more and MtGox held some. I see both those sources as lost. Dave’s drives are a one day possible. Each year, it is possible to crack more than double the key length that was previously possible. What I know of Dave’s passwords places them at around 80 bits. We can expect them to be worth trying to crack in 10-12 years. Spending the next 5 years on this is going to cover 5-10% of the possibilities at a large cost. This is how crypto works."

>>13519424
>"Your understanding of Bitcoin is spot on," Satoshi wrote back.

b-but creg said it was not for anarchists! reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Why do you idiots think he won't be able to do this?

>>13520460
>...Anonymous (ID: peJqM91y)
>I have literally negative netw(...)
>05/05/19(Sun)01
The trust has 1,100,000 BTC, BCH and BSV

>>13520393
course it is. he's also now got till Wed/Thursday to make this plausible:
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2644014-Tulip-Trust-Redacted.html
I wish him well.
>>13520412
its not 'a bad thing' per se, unless (of course) you are Creg Sheiktooshi, Inventor of Bitcoin, Etc. Then, its possibly A Very Bad Thing Indeed.

>>13518047
The chance of chainlink being worth $1M is 100%, so are you saying CSW is Satoshi?

>>13519145
>Nobody could suspect it would become any more successful than World Of Warcraft Gold or rise above 1 cent.
Well that's not true. Brainlets maybe

>>13518718
This is what this kind of fraud does. They push their lie further and further and go all in until suddenly the inevitable brick wall stops them, it's always a sudden game over and everybody surrounding it are lost for words by a drastically altered perspective.

Why is this the same date as the BCH hard fork?
15th May. Coincidence or hash war final battle?

>>13516232
Added Dr. Wright to my filter.

>but sirs, look at dr. cregs many patents, he cant be but satoj!

>>13521872
poo in the loo

>>13518562
drop name