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>>13511793

>This is the best diet for max clogged up arteries gains

>>13511793
>Eating that much red meat
Yikes

>>13511803
>This is the best diet for max clogged up arteries gains
all the memes about red meat are just memes. Yours included

Wrong board kiddo.

>>13511817

Sure thing doctor.

>>13511803
>>13511812
Limp-wristed DYEL numale libcucks detected

>Why don't you eat like humans did for several 100 000 years before we started with (((agriculture)))?
>200 grams of butter
You realize butter is an agricultural product?

>>13511827

post body and timestamp

>>13511793
The main social impact of bitcoin is sad betamales posting meat at each other on twitter. I think it's fair to say the experiment has failed.

Starting with carnivore ketogenic diet tomorrow. Went to buy 50kg of meat today.

Not larping, can post a few pics later

>>13511882
Be sure to get enough fat. That's what makes or breakes the diet. People start off usally with far too little fat. You should get fat from the animals body. Butter is good, but fat from the meat is better. You should make sure to eat organ meat too like liver. If not you can just take a few tablespoons of cod liver oil every day

>>13511793
beef rancher here, please keep pumping my bags

>>13511793
ive been keto for like 2 months now. i also do a lot of meth

>he thinks overactivating mTOR by way of eating high protein isn't going to reduce his lifespan

How do you prepare it? Have immense difficulties eating it raw.

>>13512021
I have eaten it raw a few time and think it's very god. It's a mild taste and much more juice than cocked. It can be a bit chewie though. Usually I just fry it in a pan. Raw inside

>>13512021
I cook it
Lots use air fryers
I'd been cooking my ribeyes stove top

>>13512074
>Usually I just fry it in a pan. Raw inside
Was able to participate only after discovering this as well. Your stance on unpasteurized milk Can't get enough of it because it's delicious and I have a semi-available supply.
how do you prepare your organ meats? Can it it raw for a bit, but shit gets stale quick. would love to incorporate liver, kidneys, brains and all the other wounderfull things but now it's unsustainable.
Also, how do you prepare the chewy parts of the animal - like cow legs. You supposedly have to cook it for a few hours to turn the collagen into gelatin.

>>13512081
>air fryers
Looks nice

>he's a carnivore
>he doesn't indulge in the nutrient rich wounderfood that is caviar
It's as powerful as drugs for performance

>>13512131
>unpasteurized milk
Haven't tried it but will in the future. I don't feel I have the need for it though. I sear liver in pan on low heat. I have a bag in the freezer with small bites of 50 gram sized liver. It's a perfect size since I'm not found of the taste. I however love codliver oil and drink it every day. Like alot. I eat 6 teaspoons a day, the recommended is 1. I actually never bought a hole leg, but I would put it in the oven or boil it in a pot. You should check out frank tufano on youtube. He's based

>>13511803
Lol. Sôyboy detected.

>>13512205

see: >>13511836

>>13512214
No u

>>13512214
Here is my quad from a /fit thread a couple weeks back. Fuck your numale ways.

>>13512205
common lie within the (((basedboy)))) community. follow Shawn Baker on instagram if you want to get redpilled

>>13512239
Notice the discarded bone on the plate from steak...You lesser being.

>>13512239
wtf? I'm gay for carni fitizens now

>making fun of basedboys while eating pounds upon pounds of meat pumped full of female steroids

just because killing an animal requires some level of strength doesn't mean that eating one does you dumb vultures. you probably feel better because your fat ass is eating less

>>13512250
I’m bi for carni fit gays.

Lol jk

>>13512260
OY vey. Great samefagging Herschel.

>>13512260
It develops the jaw muscle and gives you a wider chad like face. Can't say the same for your onions drink can you?

>>13511793
I do this with broccoli, cauliflower, and cheese added
Also known as the keto diet
I always start the day with all four burners cooking bacon

>>13511793
you stumbled into a keto diet, now stop before you fuck your body up irreversibly

>>13512377
And 8 scrambled free range eggs with extra sharp cheddar
And at least a half pound of Turkey sausage

>>13511793
I used to be a huge meat eater but recently cut back after several new studies found high cholesterol diets had a strong association with cardiovascular disease.

>>13512377
Looking good my man. Your stove top is about as greasy as mine. You should stay away from bacon though. It contains additives that's not good for you

>>13511793
It's horrible, I tried it and caused a shitton of inflammation. Different diets work for different people, there is no one-size-fits-all or else everyone would be doing it.

>>13512428
No carbs, no nitrites, no additives, no preservatives
I buy 50 packs at a time and eat at least one a day

>>13512482
That's pretty redbilled and based

>>13511793
I couldn't put on weight when I did keto, and I did it for 2 years. I had my macros on point. Was I doing it wrong lol? It could have been all the running I did eating away my gainz

>>13512546
>Was I doing it wrong lol
Yes. Not enough fat. Probably too little high nutrition meat like liver too.

>>13512196
>frank tufano
Watching him. Would be nice if his new meat company shipped abroad - now international shipment is possible only for his beef jerky/pemmican.

>>13512569
I wasn't skimping the fat, but I def didn't eat liver. Almond butter fat bombs were like crack to me. Maybe I'll try again - It really was a better way to life. Felt much better in my own skin

>>13511970
>he thinks life is measured by your total duration of existence
stay cucked

>>13512429
Where did you source your meat from? Fat is known to accumulate shitty compounds a body wants neutralized. That's why farm-bred animals is where it's at.

>>13511793
>shilling on 4chan
strong signal to short meat industry

>>13512591
Maybe you should try heavy cream next time. It has alot of calories and is easy to get down. Taste like Craigs mana too

>>13512181
>caviar
Biggest nutrition meme on this side of the planet.

>>13511793
if you're into the jew conspiracy, you should know that eating meat is in fact about eating (((meat))), that includes every (((meat))) including (((red meat)))

our ancestors were meainly eating fruits, roots, berries, meat was rare, if you get back even earlier, no meat was involved

so meat works, but many meat lowers your lifespan and brain power

>>13512641
>our ancestors were meainly eating fruits, roots, berries, meat was rare, if you get back even earlier, no meat was involved
wrong, you delusional vegan

https://metro.co.uk/2019/03/22/cavemens-diet-really-just-consist-eating-meat-researchers-claim-8984543/

>>13512641
Imagine believing this
All that shit doesn't grow outside spring/summer retard outside warm climates

>>13512641
bruh we're apex predators u think a caveman out there eatin raspberries when he can eat a fuckin hamburger you dumb niger

>>13512601
Admittedly it was high fat grain-fed. Perhaps if I stuck to grassfed it would be fine, but that sort of diet would be unreasonably expensive.
If you doing the diet for energy, there are far cheaper ways to increase that while still eating a substantial amount of plants and legumes.

>>13511793
ITT seething vegans.

>>13511793
based

>>13512790
not that simple. op is unironical.

>>13512641
lol, do you think cavemen looked like pic related?
Then you are deluded

>>13512685
I eat and love meat

>>13512831
kek

>>13511793
yeah keep eating meat please, cant wait to see you die of cancer

>>13512239
Clean your room you fucking dirtbag

>>13512260
>all steak is female
Are you dense? Female cows are for milking for years and breeding before slaughter, yet half of all born cows are still Male. So we eat the spare males. Most steak is from castrated Male cows (steer). Educate yourself nigger.

>>13512903
Everything gives you cancer. Stop being a dumbass

Actually started tonight instead of postponing until tomorrow. My starter package of grass fed meat.

>>13511828
It's an alright food though. Lard from grass-fed animals would be better, but many find it repulsive.

>>13512926
no stupid cunt. read like... all the scientific litterature that highlight a diet with little to no red meat

the number of retards who will have health issues because of this latest fad diet...kek
flat earthers of nutrition

>>13511793
Enjoy your early death retard, here's hoping it happens without you getting the chance to spawn.

>>13512961
>>13512980
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDPM8o9jcFA&feature=share

>>13512961
People actually get rid of their health issues on this diet

>>13512998
Not watching your faggot conspiracy video sorry little guy, find me a peer reviewed meta-analysis and link that.
>inb4 echoes-posting

>>13513035
>reality filter engage, full delusion mode
Veganism is a religion

>>13513016
Just like vegans get rid of their health issues with their diet. Obsessing over food coupled with belief that doing so will give you some magical health benefits creates a strong placebo effect.
Overly restrictive diets are for manlets and women. Get a grip.

>>13513106
>vegans get rid of their health issues with their diet
The ex-vegans PROVE a different tale. Vegan improvements in health stem from looking into their diet AT ALL and not from cutting meat from it.

>>13513016
show me scientific evidence that a carnivore diet > plant-based diet when it comes to heat issues and cancer and then we can talk. I dont deny a keto diet can be good for people with autoimmune issues.

>>13513135
Shit is so novel that there probably aren't any at all. Prepare for onslaught of those soon.

>>13513106
>>13512685
>>13512429
i agree with these guys. i think carnivore diet is all right but fruits / vegetables have micronutrients and minerals that are lacking in a meat only diet
more of an ancestral eating / high nutrient foods guy myself.

>hurrdurr eat da liver
it doesn't have everything. i like organ meats like tendon, heart and liver but there are still "missing" things that you need to supplement in an all meat/organ meat diet

>>13513135
There aren't any that disprove Carnivore either. Nobody looked into diets that consists mostly of meat - just those that had an element of meat.

>>13513083
Pretty ironic m80.
I'm not vegan, but have eaten mostly plants and pretty much no dairy the last 10 years after extensive research on the healthiest way to eat a decade ago. When I say research, I don't mean watching YouTube videos.
Eating only animals will absolutely keep you alive, just not for as long as you would have otherwise. I'm fine with that though, you do you.

>>13513156
>disses eating liver
>I eat liver
You sound Italian. Go fap to some statues.

>>13513128
the ex carnivores PROVE a different tale, and there is scientific evidence. I do think a vegan diet is also retarded, just another extremism.

>>13512685
https://www.thecut.com/2018/07/maybe-bread-is-paleo-after-all.html

>>13513176
>ex carnivores
show any

>>13511793
Meat & eggs are life

>>13513158
Carnivores must scientifically prove their point if they want to be taken seriously. Closet faggots like steroid addicted ex dr Baker have terrible blood test results.

>>13513128
>PROVE
lmao that's not what proof means you pathetic little brainlet

>>13513212
The fad is only a few months old, give it time

>>13513163
>I did research
Don't think so
>http://www.highsteaks.com/the-fat-of-the-land-not-by-bread-alone-vilhjalmur-stefansson.pdf

>>13511793
>Today I have eaten 2.2kg (4.9lb) of meat and 200 grams (0.44lb) of butter.
how does it feel being a fatty?

>>13513235
There goes your PROOF. lel
Typical vegans constructing their own realities, despite their experiences

>>13513219
I guess you only invest in bonds with that attitude

>>13513239
>1 Pajeet book > decades long meta-analysis
sad.

>>13511793
Our closest living relatives eat very little meat as do basically all the people who still live outside civilization

>>13513254
182cm, 75kg. not fat

>>13513196
>bread was around 14,000 years ago
duh, that was literally the beginning of agriculture

pic related:
carnivores who will shit in a colostomy bag after their colorectal cancer

Funny how the groups of people living the longest dont eat a lot of red meat.
http://time.com/5160475/blue-zones-healthy-long-lives/

>>13513359
>be 5'9" incel
>spend all day watching contrarian youtube videos
>fall for flat-earth tier dietary meme
>develop bad breath and eventually, ass cancer
>shit in a bag
>die

Toppest of keks.

>>13513106
I have an autoimmune disease (ankylosing spondylitis) which I put into remission on a carnivore diet. No placebo effect here lol Also I'm feeling better overall than I ever have in my life. I don't care about it being restrictive. I eat to survive not for pleasure.

>>13513278
nope

>>13513437
>judge things on appearances
>be deluded Vegan
>suffer from innumerable odd health problems
>chastise yourself for not being vegan enough and torture yourself even more in vain hope of ANY improvements in health
>feel pleasure in suffering and gathering pity from everyone because of this

>remember to get some sun and dha rich foods anon

>>13513493
>everyone who criticises my retarded dietary restrictions must have equal and opposite dietary restrictions
Not a vegan, kys brainlet oh wait you already are

>>13513557
Are there any legitimate criticisms in your post? Don't see any

>>13513582
>Don't see any
That's because your eyesight is failing from lack of beta carotene

>>13513483
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23489753
Mummified remains of Eskimos dating back 2,000 years have shown extensive hardening of the arteries throughout their brains, hearts and limbs; as a direct consequence of following a carnivorous diet of birds, caribou, seals, walrus, polar bears, whales, and fish. The June 1987 issue of National Geographic magazine carried an article about two Eskimo women, one in her twenties and the other in her forties, frozen for five centuries in a tomb of ice. When discovered and medically examined they both showed signs of severe osteoporosis and also suffered extensive atherosclerosis, "probably the result of a heavy diet of whale and seal blubber."

>>13513603
Got my superior retinol. Thinking it is you see a distorted reality due to insufficient beta-carotene conversion agents/natural conversion limitations in your diet.

>>13511793
>several 100 000 years before we started with (((agriculture)))
You mean when they gathered nuts and berries and other miscellaneous vegetation to keep them from starving in between hunts?

>>13513604
>Me eat wat ancestors eat

>>13513437
>blocks your path

>start watering my dying plant with beef blood
>it starts to come alive withing hours
Even plants love animal-based foodstuffs

>>13511793
>t.former vegan who jumps from one extreme diet to the next in an attempt to fix all of his problems
Carnivore diet is a meme just as vegan diet is a meme. You will feel good the first month or two just from cutting all the junk out of your diet, but over the long-term it's not ideal. Our hunter gatherer ancestors ate a paleo diet, which included lots of animal organs as opposed to just muscle meat, and also included some fruits and veggies. Also if you're European then your body has evolved to consume dairy and grains.

The ideal white man's diet would be a paleo diet with dairy and some non-processed grains included. And if you're not white, I feel sorry for you kiddo.

>>13513621
>nuts and berries and other miscellaneous vegetation
None of those naturally occurring plant foods are available now. Now all of those are genetic abominations artificially created.
Besides perhaps elderberries. Enjoy attempting to get yourself full with those little shits.

>>13511793
The amount of limp wrist faggots in this thread is astounding
CDL is a meme
LDL is a meme

This is by far one of the best diets for a human

>>13513691
>Carnivore diet is a meme
The numerous stories of people fixing their health tangibly makes it a non-meme.

>>13513691
Why would eating what we HAD to eat to survive 1000's of years ago be the optimal diet now? I never understood this meme.
Also I don't believe large quantities of dairy is healthy for adults (see β-casomorphin 7 and the casein-cancer connection in general).
I agree that both diets are memes though. The superior lifestyle choice is to eat habitually wholefoods, mostly plants, but without obsessing over it like some annoying vapid faggot.

>>13513750
>numerous
you find the same number of stories with people going vegetarian and basically all kind of diets. Only thing that matter is scientific studies and they all prove a lot of red meat is associated with cancer.
Longest living people on earth all eat very little meat.

>>13513709
You realize a lot of the animals you eat now are different from the way they used to be too, right? A lot of the animals they ate don't even exist anymore. Trying to exactly emulate the diet of a group of primitive humans that rarely lived past 30 and only ate what was available to them is the most asinine thing I've ever heard. I don't have a problem with people giving the carnivore diet a try if they have medical issues that cause their bodies to have adverse reactions to certain plants, but using your half-baked primitive diet as a reason to feel superior to others is ridiculous.

>>13513750
Any diet that involves cutting out sugar and processed foods will fix a plethora of health problems.

>>13513770
>Why would eating what we HAD to eat to survive 1000's of years ago be the optimal diet now?
Because as with any other animal in the animal kingdom, the most efficient and effective diet is the one that our bodies evolved and adapted for over hundreds of thousands of years.

>Also I don't believe large quantities of dairy is healthy for adults (see β-casomorphin 7 and the casein-cancer connection in general).
Too much of anything is bad. Also did that study take into account race? Asians and Africans shouldn't consume dairy.

>>13513779
>same number of stories with people going vegetarian
show them. Especially the ones who were previously eating a predominately meat based diet.
A lot of the people who found relief in Carnivore previously tried some plant-based plan to no avail.

>>13513796
Meat is meat. There is not that much variation in it from animal to animal.
The variety of different forms plant take is a completely different story.

>>13511793
Enjoy early cancer from high meet consumption

>>13513770
>large quantities of dairy
This is another thing that's retarded. People go on about this carnivore diet and how they're eating just like our ancestors did before agriculture but they go and eat shit loads of food that didn't exist until after agriculture. Do you dense fucks think people were sneaking out in the night and milking mammoths while they slept?

>>13513779
>and they all prove a lot of red meat is associated with cancer.
None of them control for how the livestock was raised (e.g. anti-biotics, diet, synthesized hormones). Also, the increase in cancer rates is minuscule. The health benefits from eating red meat far out-weigh the supposed 1% increase in certain types of rare cancers.

>>13513798
> the most efficient and effective diet is the one that our bodies evolved and adapted for
Our bodies didn't evolve *for* any particular diet, that's silly.

>>13513853
Of course they did. Why do you think most non-Europeans are lactose intolerant?

My favorite thing about the carnivore diet is that it didn't get as popular as it is until Jordan Peterson said apple cider made his tummy hurt and people started watching a schizophrenic homeless man stare at the sun.

>>13513862
Fair enough, point taken

>>13513836
Milk is controversial, completely agree. My body feels awesome after drinking unpasteurized milk, so I do it. Perhaps it is a mistake.

>>13513877
>people started watching a schizophrenic homeless man stare at the sun.
>He isn't sunpilled
Go check out Jack Kruse. Sun causes numerous great things to our bodies.

>>13513779
Stop being obsessed with (((studies))). They're all funded either by the pharma industry or the food industry and the results are what they want them to be. The last thing they have in mind is your health.

>>13513918
Yeah, the sun is great and does a lot of important things to keep our bodies healthy. Incenerating the cornea is not one of those things.

>>13513899
i think it makes sense if it's unpasteurized and unseparated. cream has fat, the whey layer is on top i believe and the milk itself. it felt like a complete breakfast and tastes great the few times i tried it.

as opposed to having the cream separated and whey separated, leaving the runny %3.25 homo milk junk that's sold in the supermarkets

>>13513825
There is a difference imo. That cattle we eat often is fed grains to fatten them or other sneaky shit, since the evidence I've seen that grains and sugar cause all kind of chronic illness it's not a stretch to say the animals would suffer similar things, and we're fed these "ill" animals.
I would eat wild animals if I could but will settle for labled grass fed and pastured animals and rather than pure carnivore I'll stick to keto with small amounts of veg/mushrooms and berries etc for the nutrients and minerals.
Also supermarkets here don't sell organ meant either and no butcher close by another reason for keto, organs have a lot of minerals in from what the animals eat.
I think they tend to go into dog/cat food production

>>13513944
Absolute brainlet mentality. Universities are not funded by meat corporations. Viral marketing memes on the other hand...

>>13513877
don't forget the doctor who lost his license haha

>>13511817
not exactly, the thing is carnitine feeds a bacteria in the gut that produces toxins and releases them into the bloodstream that damages the heart. without this bacteria tho red meat would be harmless.

>>13513779
>meat causing cancer
cringe
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5842847/
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2716748/

>>13513988
Trying to organize smething you did - would be awesome to have the full unseparated milk. Have access to unpasteurized sweet and sour cream in addition to milk luckily. Very awesome tasting - especially when one adds some sweetcream back to the milk.
Also after trying unpasteurized milk, my body rejects the taste of regular milk. I just can't drink it at all because of this odd blunt feeling all thorough my body.

>>13512910
3 water bottles, a shirt, and a plate freshly used.

You gay, as shit.

>>13514029
>"toxins"
How to spot the 75 iq npc retard.

>>13514066
He makes an interesting point. You just spouted abuse you tard.

>>13514066
trimethylamine and trimethylamine-N-oxide if you want specifics brainlet

>>13514010
>study shows that by eating red meat your chance of getting X type of cancer increases from 0.05% to 0.06%
>"omg that's a 20% increase!!!!"
>stop eating red meat and become sickly and malnourished
>go around telling everyone how evil red meat is because it "causes cancer"
>unironically think you're smarter than other people because you follow (((scientific consensus)))

>>13514088
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trimethylamine_N-oxide
>3,3-Dimethyl-1-butanol (DMB), a structural analog of choline, inhibits microbial TMA formation in mice and in human feces, thereby reducing plasma TMAO levels after choline or carnitine supplementation.[6] It is found in some balsamic vinegars, red wines, and some cold-pressed extra virgin olive oils and grape seed oils.[6]
Is this is why Stakehouses offer wines with their stakes?

>>13514066
>if I cLl him an NPC it will invalidate everything he said and I'll win the argument
This is why it's so hard to take you meme diet disciples seriously. Most of you are just idiots who go against the norm because it makes you feel like you have secret knowledge that makes you superior to everyone else because you feel insecure about other things.

I'm considering starting on this diet. What's with the fixation on beef. I understand that you need fatty meats, so why doesn't pork get the same spotlight?

>>13512641
Your brain is lacking cholesterol one of its primary components. It is rapidly shrinking. Please eat some beef liver, eggs, fish, and a lot of good animal fats-protein.
>The gay is coming for you soon
>You're welcome and good luck

>>13514146
>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S095528631830175X
Cranberries help too oddly enough.

>>13514176
I enjoyed my salmon, eggs and ham today

>>13514096
>study shows that by eating red meat your chance of getting X type of cancer increases from 0.05% to 0.06%
Numerous types of cancer by more than 20%. Don't forget heart disease!
>stop eating red meat and become sickly and malnourished
Cletus please
>go around telling everyone how evil red meat is because it "causes cancer"
Not everyone, just brainlets on 4chan who spread retarded memes to the contrary
>unironically think you're smarter than other people because you follow (((scientific consensus)))
Putting brackets around "scientific consensus" doesn't make it less legitimate than your youtube celebs, sorry.

>Listening to ever changing manipulated studies which once gave you the american food pyramid
>Not seeing the obvious historically proven evidence
If you don't have enough meat and easily digestible animal products then you have to eat bundles of indigestible plants and grains to not go hungry all day
>Enjoy the India shit in the street die early and malnourished diets

>>13514154
The same vibe was clearly seen in the vegans for a very long time.

>>13514222
>Numerous types of cancer by more than 20%.
You completely and entirely missed the point.

>Don't forget heart disease!
You mean that thing that literally didn't exist for hunter gatherers who were eating meat based diets? (and yes they were still living into their 60s and 70s if they survived childhood, famines, and natural predators). You mean that thing that doesn't exist for any other mammal in the animal kingdom, carnivore or not? That thing that was literally a non-issue for humans until the 20th century and has magically coincided with the increase in processed and sugar based foods?

Imagine unironically believing that a staple food for hundreds of thousands of years has just magically started killing us over the past century...

>>13514155
Pork is higher in inflammatory omega-6's and historically we evolved eating herbivores/ruminants (=beef).

WHAT EXACTLY ARE THE NUTRITIONAL BENEFITS OF EATING MEAT?

NO ONE CAN GIVE ME A STRAIGHT ANSWER

Besides Vitamin B12, there are none. Zero. Zilch. What exactly is meat?

YOU ARE EATING DEAD CELLS. Yes. That's what you are doing when you eat meat. You are eating dead cells that have gone into putrification.

Humans are primarily fruit eaters because fruit gives the most bang for your buck in terms of nutrition. Nearly every single fruit is considered a superfood yet we wonder what the best diet is.

The reason why meat clogs up your arteries is because of the acidic factor of meat (and other animal products). By keeping yourself in an acidic state bad shit happens. Your body is supposed to be in a slight alkaline state, in which most fruit provides.

Sean Baker blood test BTFO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxC_76sUIf8

>>13514293
Imagine being this clueless. Not even worth responding to

>>13514293
When you eat plant foods you aren't eating dead cells? Perhaps the fact that those foods are often highly processed is the reason.

>>13512641
This guy knows whats up

humans are meant to eat fruit and some veggies and nuts.

Your Jewish overlords convinced you that eating meat is somehow healthy for you, that eating eggs and bacon for breakfast is good for you. Protip, its not good for you.

Ask yourself this...

WHAT ANIMAL IN THE ANIMAL KINGDOM COOKS ITS FOOD?

OH RIGHT, ABSOLUTELY NO ONE.

What kind of food can you eat raw as humans?

99% of fruits and maybe half of vegetables you can eat raw

there you go, thats the natural food of humans

the act of "cooking" food is absolute madness and makes no sense from a biological standpoint

>>13514293
>fruit
Enjoy your cancer through deuterium overload
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEjobyXZJ_8

>>13514272
except the difference is they were hunting wild animals hand-picked by natural selection while you're stuffing yourself full with fenced animals injected with steroids on a regular interval since birth

vegan extremists need to kill themselves but you're just as retarded. Meat isn't bad but the meat we have from supermarkets are toxic

99% of products catered for the masses are toxic.

>>13514293
Cancer cells can't live off fat. They can only use carbohydrates as a fuel source. Meat is generally carb free while plants are full of carbs.

>>13514306
You're a dumb moron for believing anything the establishment tells you about our "hunter gatherer" ancestors. It's fucking hogwash.

>>13514315
Show me the vegetables, nuts and fruits that we co-evolved with. Not the genetically modified, or selectively bred crap that we have available.
They are not available.

>>13514321
>fenced animals injected with steroids on a regular interval since birth
That's why you don't eat factory-farmed animals.

>>13514321
E>except the difference is they were hunting wild animals hand-picked by natural selection while you're stuffing yourself full with fenced animals injected with steroids on a regular interval since birth
I never denied that this is a problem. Ideally we should be eating animals that are closer to nature - no anti-biotics, hormones etc. This is a problem with the meat industry, not with meat itself. I never once argued in favour of the industrialized meat industry. Although you're still better off eating grocery store meat than being a vegan. The benefits far outweigh the 0.05% increased chance of some rare cancer, as I've already mentioned.

>>13512429
Only works with locally sourced organic meat & butter

>>13514330
The establishment tells you that red meat is bad, saturated fats are bad, and that you should eat lots of vegetables and fruits. And you believe this "common sense" in spite of any real evidence, and in spite of it being logically retarded.

>>13514324
>Cancer cells can't live off fat. They can only use carbohydrates as a fuel source.
Cancer is formed from acidosis, an excess of acid in the body. In fact all modern day "diseases" are simply formed from acidosis and a backed up lymph system.

This is why our population is dying, because of a fundamental misunderstanding of how the body works. Diseases arent mystical, magical bugs that come and go. They occur because of a PH imbalance in the body because in chemistry you only have TWO STATES...Acid and Alkaline.

>>13511793
>Why don't you eat like Hunan's did for several 100 000 years

B/c I don't live 100000 years in the past retard. By eating the shit from the top of food chain you consume the largest amount of toxins. In additions humans are omnivores kys.

>>13514179
>>13514146
Shit, been craving wine and cranberries since quite a bit. Never understood why.

>>13514225
>>13514305
"Bad Cholesterol" hilarious.
>Stop blaming sugar brain syndrome on the things people who lived to 90+ on the regular used to eat
All my ancestors lived long and strong until the processed food sugar retardation came to play.
>Is not the grain, sugar, corn syrup nonsense
>Is the timeless diet everyone had we are all suddenly allergic to

>>13514354
Excuse me buddy

Plus the establishment wants to confuse you when the answer is quite clear to the natural human diet

>>13511793
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>>13514358
>largest amount of toxins
If you eat toxic animals. If you don't, you get the benefits of being at the top of the food chain with all the nutrients processed for you by the chain of plants and animals.

>>13514372
The natural human diet is meat based.

>>13514386
What are we made of?

Carbon.

Carbohydrates are the main fuel source of humans. Are we protein based? No. In fact our body has to work extra hard to break down protein in our body to amino acids in order to process it.

People are fucking clueless man. CARBOHYDRATES. Its literally in the name. Humans run on sugars...mainly fruit sugars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnVR0baMAlE

learn and educate yourself

>>13511793

>someone invents a "diet" which only purpose is to trigger some vegans
>retards actually start implementing this, thinking that it will make them healthier

>>13514408
good bait, 8/10

>>13514372
Fruit are shit, it's hardly a discussion anymore. Check out deuterium depletion protocols, how they help with cancer and what foods contribute deuterium to bodies the most (fruit).

>>13514412
>someone invents a "diet" which only purpose is to trigger some vegans
>vegan projecting their narcissism
Carnivores do it because it provides tangible benefits. The triggering potential is just a nice side-benefit.

>>13514408
brb, eating charcoal

>>13514386
the groups of people living the longest in different parts of the world all eat very little meat.
that just closes the debate. carnivores btfo

i cant get good, cheap red meat in the uk

whatever the fuck happening to golden mean? eat whatever you want just make sure it's balanced

>>13514452
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3627124/
>More than 70 years after its initial report, caloric restriction stands strong as the most consistent non-pharmacological intervention increasing lifespan and protecting against metabolic disease.
Stop stuffing your face

>>13514293
You're a human not an ape.

>>13514419
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM5gn26wdQA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASSCAW9kY0U

Educate yourself. Man is indeed the highest evolved animal on the planet. Protein actually destroys health which is why we have so many cases of cancer and so-called "diseases"

The truth is right in front of you. We see in RGB...eating fruit is mutually beneficial. Eating dead animals is not. When you see an animal do you want to rip its throat out? No, its not in our instincts to hunt animals either.

This "hunter gatherer" ancestory that they sell is BOGUS. It never happened. We were never running around in loincloths hunting mammoths or whatever. Its fucking bullshit. Fictional history.

Eating fruit is a mutually beneficial act. The plant "wants" you to eat the fruit. Eating fruit tastes good and does not require you to cook the food.

Man's fall from grace is the rejection from God, literally choosing death through eating meat. Meat that comes from the slaughter you animals that you dont even see.

Wake up.

>>13514461
How do you define the balance? By the consensus of the time? That's not very smart

>>13511793
>Why don't you eat like humans did for several 100 000 years before we started with (((agriculture)))?

Because I want to live past twenties?

>>13514452
Maybe in opposite land