/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>13497153
kek

>Chainlink's strategy for security is not so good
>not so good
kek continued

>>13497153
listen to chainlink brainlets who can't refute anything

or

a genius who created both Augur/Aeternity


Your choice

>>13497172
i'm convinced this fucking board, especially the FUDers, are comprised of no more than 5 individuals. You are so fucking easy to spot. At least wait 12 hours before posting a variation of the same fucking words

>>13497172
conflict of interest
zack who will bend the knee

>>13497153
Is this the guy that was conned by the company that he created his project for? If yes, he's a typical no business-sense nerd thinking he knows how to maneuver through the world outside of his computer.
In the meantime Billionaires are getting wrecked by shittalking Sergey on twitter and knees are being bent in his direction in speeds never witnessed before.

>>13497153
That dude is known as fagot supreme in space btw.

Booted from every project just shills his bags and fuds competition.

Hes thesis is 'you can buy votes' and 'goverment can ban secured hardware'


OMEGALOL

>>13497153
CHAINLINK BTFO
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Big juicy brainers are investing in Amoveo seeing the big picture.

Short term brainlets who invest in shitcoins cause of memes invest in Chain link. Bet you majority of Linklets don't even know what it does.

>>13497153
Win

>>13497153
nasdaq listed docusign founder likes and advises chainlink who the fuck is zack hess

>>13497309
Fuck you noob

>>13497153
>>13497153
>https://github.com/zack-bitcoin/amoveo/blob/master/docs/other_blockchains/chainlink.md

Yeah but, what else are you gonna use to get data to your contracts. The other oracles are not better and are already vulnerable to attacks.

The thing with chainlink is its the only solution that at least has decentralization.

>>13497315
It also has the leading minds in the space behind with IC3 and the leading trusted hardware oracle in Town Crier.

Funny how the competition is obsessed with chainlink and needs to tell the world in medium articles and spiteful twitts how shitty it is
In the meantime the chainlink team just does it’s thing and couldn’t give a fuck about the rest
Since soon enough they all will bend the knee

>>13497309
Oh now "advising" is "joining the team"?

All this means is that Sergey gave Tom a shitload of LINK that he will eventually dump on us all so he could have Tom "advise". In reality he isn't doing anything.

Just another example of shady work and us stinkies are eating it up as usual. Meanwhile it dipped another 2% as I was typing this, whoops.

Sorry to burst your bubble fellow marines but this will end very badly for all of us. You know I'm right, I always am.

>>13497153
His github doesnt address what chainlink is. It's a network that incentivizes truthfull data while compensating smarcontract users if false data is received.

He doesnt touch on these points at all. How can he refute chainlink when not address the purpose of the project.

>>13497407
What he does is move the goal post to discuss something that is not the core focus of chainlink. Rather he discusses the core focus of augers and compares it to LINK. The guy is full of it.

>>13497183
>he doesn't know its all one person

>>13497153
Absolute fucking drivel

SACK WHO - SACK WHO - SACK WHO ???

BEND THE KNEE - BEND THE KNEE - BEND THE KNEE !!

>Conclusions
>level 4.2 oracle systems like chainlink are more expensive and less secure than level 3.2 oracles like @AugurProject and @BitcoinHivemind . Which are less secure and more expensive than level 2.2 oracles like Amoveo.

Oh this is just a shill post for his bags, makes sense, don't give this the light of day, move on.

This is how you know mainnet is close - when tons of pissants come out of the woodwork professing how they've ended, beaten, refuted solved etc chainlink. Look at all the joke shitcoins that have lashed out at chainlink for no reason in the past few months. They're afraid

>>13497153
>The chainlink team is already aware that trusting a central api provider is not a secure oracle.
Wow.
This guy is a genuine retard.

>>13497153
His criticism of Chainlink seems valid, but his proposed solution, Amoveo does not.

I checked the mechanism that Amoveo is supposedly going to be using to provide that high level of security, and it seems to me that it is just a system where the biggest whale is the oracle, so I don't see it being super-secure, quite the opposite.

I HATE chainlink

>>13497497

Definitely. People coming out of left field to shit talk, knockoffs piling up over night, shit like Ocean Protocol putting out diagrams where LINK is 60% of the steps in whatever their shitty chain “does.” BSV naming their private chain hosting app “LINK.”

All pretty clear, hold tight marines.

>>13497799
nice cope retard

>>13497808

There is no cope involved.

Chainlink WILL render a large portion of crypto projects obsolete upon mainnet launch. The signs are clear. Ducks in a row anon.

The real redpill is that the oracle problem is not a problem, it's a mathematical truth. Its solution would always be either paradoxical or flawed. You cannot turn a probabilistic and centralized world into a trustless, deterministic one. You can do your best to make it secure enough tho. That's the point of chainlink. It's literally a bandaid solution but it will remain and dominate for at least 30 years to come. Then, all things will be run in immutable TEEs and stored on public ledgers. Smart contracts will be a new internet connected to an IoT. Until then, our whole world runs on legacy systems and it won't change over night. Chainlink will provide the option to pay for extra security, backed by trust (through legal means and KYC node reputation for example) but it will be good and decentralized enough even for the highest value contracts.

This article is written by a guy who is more autistic than Sergey. Both know that the system that is being built is flawed BUT Sergey knows that perfect systems don't exist. For example statistics always work on the good enough principle. They create data that could be not representative 1% at a time. But if several scientists come up with the same numbers and a chance of failure of 1% it would be dumb to disregard the data and call it not perfect because there's a 0.001% chance it could be off. Striving for Perfection kills productivity.

>>13497799
>BSV naming their private chain hosting app “LINK.”
care to post a link about BSV private chains?

From someone whos not link marine OR retard that fuds link becasue <80IQ (I only have small 10K LINK suicide stack maybe 2% of my crypto)

>>13497251
Correct.
Dude is masive fagot and shill.

This is not fud this is shill disguised as "analysis", really fucking bad one acually.

>>13497824

Nothing will happen "upon mainnet launch", maybe thos few meme"oracle projects" will lose value.

Noone uses smart contracts world need to adopt them first wich means eth (or another compeating platform but unlikelythan link can go parabolic.

>>13497937

Oh and btw nothing "solves oracle problem" link is just by far best "workaround" so far...

Gl anons

>>13497946
Thanks, Timo

>>13497911
This.

>>13497799
Checked

That's why burak's nodary is worth 7 millions

>>13497183
Imagine believing people FUD shitcoins.Face it, faggot, you will be holding LINK as it goes down to zero and gets delisted. You should have sold 2 years ago.

>>13497379
If you are saying you are a brainlet then yes the words you say are true. You are always right.

>>13497278
Yep, whales been mining veo

>>13498239
>gets delisted
spot the projecting sanjaycuck

he IS right

Stinkies in shambles

How about I buy Zach's shitcoin, sell it when it moons (if ever), then put all the profit into Chainlink after it crashes like most other low mcap scams?

>>13497183
I'm convinced that you weren't here when chainlink meme started.
Otherwise you would know the reason for this meme.

>>13497153
Literally who

Augur sounds like the noise you make when you cough some nasty green phlegm from your lungs

Chainlink - by SmartContract.com

>>13498694
someone more important than you

truth hurts kid

>>13497783
>where the biggest whale is the oracle
LOL what an absolute fucking joke that is

>>13497153
Zack Hess is desperately trying to be relevant in crypto, so he made a decentralized oracle coin to try to compete with one of the most hyped projects in all of crypto. I say “try to” compete because his coin has almost zero market cap and no partnerships. He is irrelevant, in a not yet existent market, in a very unnoticed space(crypto). The guy is literally nothing, and so is his coin. Most /biz/raelis have more influence over the crypto world than he does which is why he makes these threads here.

I’m gonna finally move out of poverty
>t.5k LINK

>>13498678
Enlighten us, oh great oldfag of yore.

Amovei is most autistic shit there is. Zack talking makes me wanna kill myself. It's solid buy imo.

>>13499100
Zack pls go. Nobody is falling for your scam. You will never break $3,000 trading volume and anyone who buys bags will never be able to sell. Its a scam through and through.

Only 2 non scams in this space. VEO and BSV. Both gonna 1000x easy. All u cucks looking for volume or partnerships just kys.

>>13499049
yes you are, 200 million in ten years

>>13499237
Thats not even English...

amoveo does seem superior to chainlink in terms of tech. I should buy a bit of both though.

>>13499264
how so?

>>13499264
If you buy amoveo, be prepared to never see that money again. Its the lowest liquidity shitcoin thats ever been shilled here. With LINK at least you have the option of selling if things go bad.

>>13497172
>genius
>Augur
Pick one. Guy is a low IQ low social class dipshit who got rich by throwing his mommy’s take out the trash money into bitcoin early then tried to capitalize on it by building a “business” with zero fucking use case which gets completely removed from existence in the case of ChainLink succeeding. It’s surprising to see him write a 2nd grade level essay trying to shit on ChainLink? No. And you don’t see the Serg shitting on his already basically dead project because confident alpha males don’t need to do that.

>>13497911
Also this guy fucking gets it. There is NO oracle solution. LINK does the best job possible and will be used if companies decide they want to incorporate blockchain. Buying Town Crier made it so nobody else can even compete.

>>13499275
Doesn't include most liquid exchange - qtrade

>>13497183
Buy UND

Hello everyone. Thank you for your interest in Amoveo.
You can learn more about Amoveo on our github https://github.com/zack-bitcoin/amoveo
If you have questions about oracles or Amoveo technology, you can ask Zack on our telegram or discord channels, or in our Reddit page.

>>13500013
gas yourself kike

>>13499264
kek

>>13500013
>prediction market oracle
Explain this to me like I am a brainlet. Why would anyone trust a futarchy oracle? Cant it be wrong? I feel like prediction markets would have called Hillary Clinton as winning the election. Is the Oracle part when the prediction is judged as accurate or inaccurate? Doesnt that either require a human(who is prone to bribes and mistakes) to put in the information about the result or a service like ChainLink anyway? I always thought Augur was a cool idea, but theres no way it provides any useful functionality outside of gambling.

>>13500013

>>13497379
You're not a stinky. You hold XRP like a subhuman nigger you reddit spacing faggot.

>>13499309
Well it's a good thing companies have already made that decision to usher in the 4IR.

>>13497153
The market proves him right. Amoveo is already worth $76 per coin,
while Chainlink can't even get back to $0.50.

buy signal

sergey ate chainlink.

just like he did with nxt

>>13497167
best gif

>>13500247
Its not hard to hit $70 per coin when theres like 20 coins total.

>>13500247
Sorry, there’s actually 60 coins. Fucking KEK. What a joke. This means as more coins enter the market, the price will go down. Its literally a guaranteed loss of money. What a stupid tokenomics policy. Like breandead bad.

>>13500247

This.

based

>>13500405

60k coins retard.

And its total suply unlike scam link where 1/3 is out lol

How dumb this seething linkies are???

>>13500437
1K volume KEK

>>13500437

And its minable coin not rc20 shit like link


Get REKT linkies

>>13497153
HOLY SHIT HES RIGHT CHAINLINK IS SHIT

>>13500247
Holy fuck. This is bait right? You cant be this stupid. Value of individual coins means absolutely nothing. Can you not math, like at all? Ripple is $0.30 and its a top 3 crypto.

>>13500164
Anyone have an answer to this? Genuinely curious. It doesnt seem like VEO is anything but REP 2.0.

>>13500685
Paul Sztorc introduced the idea of blockchain oracles, and he has written a lot of great stuff about them.
http://bitcoinhivemind.com/

If you want to learn about Amoveo, you should join Amoveo's telegram or discord or reddit and ask questions there.

>>13499299
Lmfao the dude built Augur and Aeternity, but you’re right he’s just some low IQ nigger who got lucky throwing moms money into bitcoin early on.
While you, a genius true /biz/ patrician, spend your days waxing rhapsodically on 4chan, and know exactly how to judge the IQ of prolific technologists like Zack.

>>13500728
I dont. I just want a concise answer as to how exactly the information that would make Amoveo an oracle gets on chain. It seems to me that its not an automated process like ChainLink, and instead relies on people to manually input information. Why am I wrong?

>>13497172
Or somebody trying to pump his own while discrediting others. Pass on his opinion holding any merit.

he may be a faggot, but he's not wrong. Chainlink is essentially throwing a bunch of feces at the wall and hoping it sticks, the individual elements of which have all been thoroughly dismissed as being insecure.

>>13499309
Town Crier was developed by a bunch of uni students. Any company with funding could re produce a similar system quickly and more effectively.

>>13497183
>i'm convinced this fucking board, especially the FUDers, are comprised of no more than 5 individuals

that's because you're a schizophrenic.

>>13497193
>conflict of interest

This is true, although everyone should still consider what Zack Hess has to say and Chainlink should address his critiques. But his project "Amoveo" is directly conflicting with LINK so that should be kept in mind.

I don't own any LINK, I own BAT, but I'll tell you this much:

Whenever somebody comes along and has a valid critique of BAT, the Brave team usually addresses that critique either on Twitter or they'll actually go and fix the problem if it's a valid critique. My question is, does LINK ever do anything like this? Like if someone brings up a valid problem with LINK, will Sergey/someone else from the team actually ever address it? Or are they infallible and don't need to ever fix any issues with the project?

>>13501172
Theres nothing to refute.

He misses the point of Chainlink entirely. Chainlinks purpose is to create a network that incentives bridging truthful data to smartcontracts in the most decentralized way possible. At the same time compensating smartcontract users in case they receive false data.

Its that simple. Everything else is extra. the security that a decentralized oracle network can provide is just another layer. Is it perfect? no. no system is perfect. But it doesn't need to be perfect. Augur is not perfect as well. He even states this.

If you understand the oracle problem and its limitations you soon realize that Hess article is pointless.

Hes stating the obvious and actually reinforces what we all know. The oracle problem can't be 100% solved but chainlink comes the closest and industries and the biggest institutions are willing to accept Chainlinks solution. There is no other competitor that comes close.

>>13501419
Thanks, an actual good response in a LINK thread

>>13501419
The more important question, how big is your stack

>>13500247
Why are your commas and periods inversed? You fucking psychopath.

>>13501419

>>13502130
because he is a cucked german faggot, probably timo

>>13501419
You and Zack are in agreement about the purpose of Chainlink.

Chainlink's solution is less secure and more expensive than alternatives like bitcoin hivemind, augur, or amoveo.

>>13502802
Hi Zack.

>>13497911
Checked facts.

>>13497153
i cannot wait until chainlink inevitably moons or goes to 0, either way this shitposting image board will be fun