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I thought it was just a meme but the more research I do I just dont know whos jewing who

Is Bitcoin SV the real Bitcoin?
Is Craig Wright actually Satoshi?

Im starting to get convinved and Im scared of missing out on buying the real Bitcoin for dirt cheap
I dont know what to believe anymore

>> No.13445640
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read his medium blog posts. If you're not a brainlet you will be part of the stiffening

https://medium.com/@craig_10243/

>> No.13445656

>>13445623
Yes

>> No.13445659

>>13445640
>https://medium.com/@craig_10243/


I am all in with 77 bitcoin sv. fuck chainlink. ill buy 1000 for 200$, for the meme, when it trades sub 30 cents.

>> No.13445676

>>13445623
I actually used to believe Craig is Satoshi in 2018, amazed by how he was "doxxed", by Gavin's acknowledgement, but later, after I explored various mismatches and outright forgeries, I have my doubts. Probably it's normal to believe Craig is Satoshi at one point.

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also, the "muh faketoshi" narrative is purly a blockstream scam. All the "evidence" you see against Craig originates from Greg Maxwell and his blockstream. He and his companions control all the relevant bitcoin subs including btc through anon accounts where they larps as someone other than them self. It is all a lie and this will be blatantly clear as you research and read more

>> No.13445698

>>13445623
>I just dont know whos jewing who
yes but here is a thought
satoshi never wanted to be known but he put his work up open and free for everyone to analyze build upon and use.
creg just throws temper tantrums on twitter never shared anything he made (aside from fictional memoirs sv cucks call articles) and tries to patent troll devs every day.

>> No.13445706

>>13445693
imagine thinking being the god's chosen people when israel's median IQ is lower than italy

>> No.13445719

>>13445693
faketoshi can be coined to jihan pretty surely
and the fact that blockstream founder core dev made it to be a celebrated bcash influencer actually makes 1meggreg almost fucking based. i mean come on that's trolling on an other level.

>> No.13445737

>>13445719
yes but craig has a huge cock.

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>>13445676
>I actually used to believe Craig is Satoshi in 2018, amazed by how he was "doxxed", by Gavin's acknowledgement, but later, after I explored various mismatches and outright forgeries, I have my doubts. Probably it's normal to believe Craig is Satoshi at one point.
Read the satoshi affair to understand why Craig bailed on doing a real signing in public. It was just to much circus and he felt he was not ready. He also had a lot of scammers after him in adition to Greg. The Australian Tax Office was also on his ass thanks to Greg leaking them false information. He was in a very weak position and did the best move he could, to obscure the whole thing with the fake signing. Now he has a team of 50+ highly competent people and the backing of a billionair, and he has secured a ton of patents to protect bitcoin

>> No.13445752

>>13445676
>Probably it's normal to believe Craig is Satoshi at one point.
I mean this as gently as possible. If you've been in crypto for more than 6 months and you think Craig is Satoshi you are low IQ.

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>>13445752
>if you think Craig is Satoshi you are low IQ.
He doesn't know about Dunning and Kruger. kek

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>>13445737
that or a literal sockpuppet stuffed into his pants. you can never tell with creg. he is a compulsive liar and a narcissistic psychopath.

>> No.13445835

>>13445823
i don't care, you know, I dont believe a word the Jew says. not even hello.

>> No.13445838

>>13445782
I'm just kidding. Craig is of course the real Satoshi anyone who doesn't think so is about to get based and stiffed!

>> No.13445855

>>13445835
>I dont believe a word the Jew says. not even hello.
that's smart now apply the same to creg and you will be okay

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>>13445623
So tiresome

>> No.13446086

>>13445640
I read a few. All his posts are about how great he is, like something you would expect from bitconnect. None have interesting technical discussions. Can you summarize some of his points you think are interesting?

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Damn it biz, you are shaking my believes about what's up and down in crypto. Should I sell my linkies? How many bchsv to make it?

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3 Ruppees were deposited into your account

>> No.13446490

>>13445623
LINK just launched on BSV
If someone builds a nice UI and app, this is better than any encrypted messenger out there.

https://bitsent.net/2019-04-23-about_link/

>> No.13446545

>>13445745
>He also had a lot of scammers after him
looking for Tips, one presumes

>> No.13446547

>>13445623
if he can create a machine that is like it's from the year 3000 and can do literally everything then he is Satosho

>> No.13446606

>>13446086
>Can you summarize some of his points you think are interesting?
Sure. His main points are:
1.Hello it's me Satoshi
2.I am very cool and great
3.Big things will happen in the future. I know I said that a lot in the past and nothing ever happened but this time I'm definitely serious

>> No.13446627

>>13446606
>Hello it's me Satoshi
Nope, he was doxed.

>.I am very cool and great
He is

>Big things will happen in the future
It will and it already is


Maybe you should try to catch up before flashing your lack of knowledge?

>> No.13446652

>>13446627
Fellas, don't look now but I think this might be the real Satoshi himself! Posting live from Mumbai

>> No.13446897

>>13445698
>take a steamy shit in the mans work
>surprised when he reveals himself and retakes the reigns to save Bitcoin

>> No.13446910

>>13445823
Afraid of the stiff, anon?

>> No.13446923

>>13446490
This LINK actually works.

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>>13445623
Even exchanges are so wary of BSV that they stopped listing it. All they can do is to try and delay it as much as they can, knowing it will be the crypto that ends all other cryptos.

>> No.13447003

>>13446942
Uncut benises and bsv will win

>> No.13447005

>>13446942
Exchanges profit off of trade. BSV is bitcoin and scales, which means items capable of all shitcoin operations. Means no more shitcoin trading. Use your brain.

>> No.13447031

Yes Craig is Satoshi. Yes BSV is the real Bitcoin.

None of that means shit if you're after $$$ gains. We live in an age of lies and retards and your bag could go to zero.

I'm comfortable with that, because I still consider it a smart investment risk.

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>>13445693
This. If the entire narrative turning out to be the product of Mr. Omega Neckbeard himself does not shake these lemmings from their slumber I don't know what will.
Imagine being so thoroughly bamboozled and manipulated by such a disgusting creature.

>> No.13447389

>>13447035

kek

>> No.13447400

>>13447035
just because he is ugly as fuck it doesn't mean he is not right about creg.

>> No.13447419

>>13446430
70

>> No.13447930

Still a meme OP. He’s a huge scammer. He’s basically ebaumsworld. No keks

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Seriously feels like we’re arguing over who’s prom king...

>> No.13447981

OK im convinced
I just bought a sizable holding of Bitcoin SV for just under $52
If this is all for real and Craig is Satoshi and BSV is the real Bitcoin then Im sure to /make it/
Thanks fellow anons

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>>13445752
Been in since 2011, my IQ is 146 hungover with 3 hrs sleep and i'm gradually moving to all in BSV. Keep imaging you're the smartest though.

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>>13445623
Clown world causality theory: the most ridiculous outcome is the one that will happen. Satoshi is a shitposting Aussie boomer

>> No.13448239

>>13445823
01G realised he reveals him as 1meggreg so has changed their namefag. Get rekt neckbeard.

>> No.13448247

>>13448220
I ranked 144 high af, I haven’t been in crypto nearly as long but I bought ETH at $20 and sold at $800 I too am going all in bsv

>> No.13448277

>>13447035
>he doesn't invest in nerds
Unironically not going to make it

>> No.13448313

>>13447968
Imagine believing LN is sophisticated or that scaling needs to be complicated.

>> No.13448323

>>13448239
It's all so tiresome. God really does hate namefags.

>> No.13448359

>>13448313
whatever works without sacroficing from the core tenets

>> No.13448374

>>13448313
I sincerely hope BSV catches on as quickly as possible so the whole thing can come crashing down sooner when it's demonstrated (again) that it doesn't work. If I'm wrong that's even better obviously but all I've done for 20 years is model systems and this one doesn't work. You can still make money on the Ponzi effect like always.

>> No.13448403

>>13448239
you still pushing this weird ass theory?

>> No.13448421

>>13448403
Hi Greg.
Tell us how many sockpuppets you have.
Your game is over.
You will go down together with the shitcoin segwit you created. Bye looser

>> No.13448430

>>13448359
>segwit
>LN
>core tenets

Read the whitepaper, 01Groid.

>> No.13448472

>>13448359
Core tenets? Like miners having to compete to be paid in lots of fees once the block reward subsidy goes away? Have you ever heard of efficiency? Is it something you think has value in an economic system? Having every neckbeard running a pi for the sake of decentralisation does not make for an efficient model. Especially when they're fucking pointless to begin with.

>>13448403
Only said it the first time yesterday but it obviously struck a nerve you disgusting shill.

>> No.13448474

>>13445623
Either you're retarded or you're just shilling that piece of shit of BSV

Have a look at his pathetic twitter posts and you'll understand he's just a pathological cringy liar

>> No.13448506

>>13445823
That's a fake by the way.
Read name last "t" is too much
Greg tries to provide false evidence again.

He also believes sun is rotating around the earth, I heard.

>> No.13448661

>>13448430
the core tenets are trustless permissionless publicly auditable supply and secure

>> No.13448678

>>13448661
>doesn't even know what makes the network trustless
>doesn't understand incentives structure
>doesn't understand how LN fundamental change this

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>>13448506
nice catch

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>>13448681
>when you wish craig was back on shitter so much you make fake tweets from him
i know how you feel

>> No.13448723

>>13448678
ln can't change the total supply of coins nor can it mess with the security of the blockchain it keeps things trustless but somewhat erodes the permissionless nature of bitcoin as far as offchain transactions go, if ln nodes get centralized enough but this is something for the future to tell.

you cashie niggers are too hysteric you need to chill the fuck out.

>> No.13448734

>>13448723
Yeah theres all that bad shit, but that wasn't even what I was talking about lmao.

>> No.13448763

>>13448734
do tell

>> No.13448775

>>13448763
See>>13448678

>> No.13448784

>>13448775
do tell

>> No.13448802

>>13448784
The fact you still don't get is a tell tale you really don't understand the incentives scheme or why its vital. There is a high chance you don't understand basic market forces and decision making.

>> No.13448814

>>13448802
do tell

>> No.13448821

>>13448814
Reply to me saying "do tell".

>> No.13448841

>>13448821
you said you know something about ln changing the trustless nature of bitcoin first time i hear about this so speak up nigger! i heard about the dangers of centralization and censorship some fear the loss of anonymity but not this.

>> No.13448848

>>13448841
How are miners paid?

>> No.13448917

>>13448848
oh i thought you came up with something original... fuck

>> No.13448921

>>13448917
Do tell

>> No.13448925

>>13447003
This is the future I want

>> No.13448975
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>>13448661
The core tenets are p2p electronic cash, not p2p2p2p promisory notes. Immutability = an nlocktime tx from 2011 still being able to be replayed in 2111 since no neckbeards changed the protocol because of their imaginary "centralization" boogie man. A networks security comes not from the degree of interconnectivity of the nodes (sic MINERS). If the graph is complete (as in all vertices have edges with the other vertices within an ultra small world then the hops in the network can be bought <3 and then virtually all attack surfaces get reduced to zero.

You're already admitting LN architecture is going to fail in the future yet you're in here imagining short comings of the scaling plan for bsv when you have no background in network architecture/security/analysis/theory.

I sincerely hope you're getting paid well for this greg, or perhaps bilderberg and spez caught you looking at violentacrez jailbait back in the day and have now got you by the short and curlies as a slave. Either way, godspeed you ugly neckbeard cuck.

>> No.13448998

>>13448975
Its impossible hes not getting paid. He'd be more effective if he didn't namefag because I might assume it's new retards coming into threads who haven't read the whitepaper.

>> No.13449033

>>13448975
>You're already admitting LN architecture is going to fail in the future
i said its possible never said it will surely fail unless blocks remain at 1mb because that's not even enough for managing ln channels in the future.
i'm just gonna ignore the general shitposting nothing of interests to me there

>> No.13449048

>>13448998
>Its impossible hes not getting paid.
just tell me where the fuck i can get paid for putting up with you stupid cucks!

>> No.13449065

>>13449033
>blocks remain at 1mb
And they always will. Feels good knowing the miners mine all three chains and have a vested interest in keeping btc limited after all the shit Core did.

>inb4 muh UA
Protesting isnt voting commie.

>>13449048
Then you're actually low iq.

>> No.13449100

>>13449065
>And they always will.
bull fucking shit

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>>13448975

People would understand bitcoin a lot better if they understood the network topology better

>>13449033

>i said its possible never said it will surely fail unless blocks remain at 1mb because that's not even enough for managing ln channels in the future.

Spoiler alert: the 1mb limit is never going to be lifted.

The truth is, every single feature of bitcoin that makes it unique and novel has been removed from BTC.

You fell for a psyop.

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>>13449100

>> No.13449135

>>13449100
Oh really. Who's going to HF it? Jihan, roger, Craig? Somehow I don't see them doing that. People who mine bch and btc can block a HF without even redirecting their miners. btc is fucking DOA.

>> No.13449159

>>13445659
>77 bitcoin sv
>all in
This is the type of dumb money brainlets invested in BSV

>> No.13449160

>>13449135
>Who's going to HF it?
me if i have to

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>>13449100

"Some people still say that Core will increase the blocksize limit when needed. I often tell them to propose that to Core and see what happens.

I suspect the same thing will happen to you that did to me and others four years ago, you will be banned, censored and demonized."

>> No.13449182

>>13449160
How much hashpower you got?

>> No.13449193

>>13448220
>drinks alcohol & sleeps for 3 hrs (why? got a job normie? lol)
>146 IQ
yeah
nah
46 IQ if we're generous

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>>13449193
Oh, rekt, however will i recover? Haven't worked since 2013 other than starting my own business and performing in a few shows.
Maybe getting rich off bsv while all the brainlets get destroyed with ETH and BTC will offer me some consolation.

>> No.13449285

>>13449263
Sucking dick behind a gas station isn't what people usually refer to as a business

>> No.13449309

>>13449285
Luckily for you kneepads are cheap. So when btc goes into the floor you'll have a backup plan.

>> No.13449336

>>13449309
A good pair of kneepads ain't cheap
you should know

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>>13449285
Oh no again, devastated. You were spot on with your estimation of a 46 iq. Clearly someone 4 standard deviations below the norm would be posting on an obscure Siberian yak milking forum about network topology and security and you absolutely nailed it with your guess of my business. You're really showing me to be such a retard aren't you, mr genius. Couldn't possibly be that you're an insecure cuck projecting your basic bitch brain capacity at someone when they speak about things that you are incapable of understanding, nahhhh no way.

>> No.13449378

>>13449356
I don't care who you are or what you have to say
your weird flex of 146 IQ hungover on 3hrs of sleep is pathetic and something only a real brainlet would brag about
I hang around in BSV threads hoping one of you can sway me over but you never explain anything

>> No.13449412

>>13449378
Call it that if you get triggered by it but it's just me speaking the truth.
What questions do you want answered?

>> No.13449433

>>13449356
autismlevel.jpg

>> No.13449446

>>13449412
Where is proof that CSW is Satoj
Why should BSV become more used than BTC

>inb4 bigger blocks
If size mattered, people would use any of the plethora of other shitcoins with higher TPS.

>> No.13449456

>>13449446
>premine shitcoins and DAGs
Lurk moar.

>> No.13449475

>>13449456
lurked more than you my street shitting friend
TPS never correlated with price

>> No.13449482

>>13449475
There are no blockchains that have higher tps than SV, retard. You're thinking of DAGs and centralized shit like xrp. Again, lurk moar.

>> No.13449538

>>13449482
sv has a usual tps of 0.1 when it's not spammed on purpose by "stress tests" i1m fairly certain most blockhains beat that.

>> No.13449552

>>13449538
You mad, little blocklet?

>> No.13449565

>>13449552
i am absolutely completely relaxed pajeet friend

>> No.13449579

>>13449565
Imagine having little man syndrome in the form of money lmao

>> No.13449597

>>13449579
what can i say it's the only thing i'm short of

>> No.13449790

>>13449446
Depends on what constitutes proof to you. There's enough circumstantial evidence that makes me think he is (part of a team) the best candidate. Regardless of whether he is or isn't his understanding of bitcoin is superior to everyone else in the space, his knowledge of network topology/security, economics, law, and business (as well as his publications) far exceeds and of the neckbeards and their imaginary problems or aantonop and his fucking books. The development coming out from unwriter and shadders is already league ahead of LN and is actually building the most comprehensive protocol/feature set in crypto.

Size matters because miners are incentivised to behave honestly by the rewards from lots of fees as the block reward/subsidy diminishes. Dpos or some other shit with 1000tps is subject to the whim of cartel block producers censoring according to some constitution they enforced.
With 2GB blocks, an average tx size of 495 bytes and fees of 1 sat/byte that allows 4x10^5 tx per block with 20 BSV in fees, yet the fees are so low to add up to 20bsv that people can shitpost stuff pn chain for the fun of it. Tx throughput and data on chain is increasing, that's adoption.

>> No.13449808

>>13449790
>evidence
that's a strong word for numerous fabrications and anecdotes

>> No.13449825

If you were Satoshi, and needed to convince others that you were Satoshi, would you make a bunch of fake proof to convince others?

>> No.13449855

>>13449825
You are making the false assumption that he wants to convince you.

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>>13449808
>can't address points in post
"faketoshi! "

>> No.13450042

>>13449790

Based and stiffpilled

>>13449808
>>13449597
>>13449565
>>13449538

"Some people still say that Core will increase the blocksize limit when needed. I often tell them to propose that to Core and see what happens.

I suspect the same thing will happen to you that did to me and others four years ago, you will be banned, censored and demonized."

You can't ignore this forever. BTC will never lift the blocksize limit. You've been warned.

>> No.13450205

>>13449867
no matter how uch he squirms whines cries and threatens creg will forever be remembered as faketoshi

>> No.13450383

>>13450205
The real history is already being written to the blockchain as we speak. What you say has no bearing on what is about to happen.

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>>13450205
>24 posts by this id
haha, this is priceless.
I see your are back with a new name O1G/Greg Maxwell.
Please say hi to your neckbeard from me.
oh, and did you read the whitepaper yet? I can recommend the part about miners

>> No.13450495

>>13450205

1mb blocks forever ;)

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>>13448231

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>>13450205
No matter how much you get paid per post to kvetch about him BSV is still gonna rape every other crypto out there. Have fun being a homeless broke core cuck faggot muttering "faketoshi" over and over again to yourself while trying to find shelter under a piece of cardboard in some bushes in a park. Keep an ear out for the rumble of my lambo tearing up the streets.

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>>13450525

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>>13451073
You saved my OC, I like you.

I really miss CSW twitter, it was like a living library Satoshi wonderland. There was so many gems in there that can't be accessed now.

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>>13451110

>> No.13451125

>>13451110
Kek

>> No.13451126

>>13451116
If it was a cute boy he would have sent it

>> No.13451134

>>13451116
That is so nice. He is such a sweetheart deep down. Him being a priest is actually believable

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>>13451126
tfw cute twink, but he's not on twitter anymore

>> No.13451192

>>13449825
You are assuming an unnecessary need, i.e. a non-need.

>> No.13451240

>>13451141
holy shit this picture is me on a daily basis

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>many team
>many success
buy shitoshis coin and get brownpilled

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>>13451110
I like you too fren

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>>13451134
He is, I am actually surprised how nice of a person he is to people who treat him with respect, he's always been courteous to me when I asked him something and I am a literal nobody. He has a kind soul, but like many of us, he's tormented by Satan's clown world which has made him hard and furious with his enemies who enable it. He's like the /pol/ transformation meme personified.

>> No.13451402

>>13451398
He's just not a cuck. If you fling shit at him he'll fling it back.

>> No.13451863 [DELETED] 

>>13445623

https://beta.forkdelta.app/#!/trade/0xa8bdc8882987a3ed83d8030f08d64479f1eff731-ETH

>not buying TRUE
>Shorting Okex
No wonder you're poor

>> No.13451869

>>13451863
Kek unironically got 10k

>> No.13451878

>>13451863
Nice but good luck getting past okex kyc

>> No.13451884

Buy BTT kek

>> No.13451892

>>13451863
I'm feeling comfy AF with this bag
thanks for shilling me this coin OP, you're one cool cuck

>> No.13451897

>>13451863
stop spreading this anon, you're going to ruin a good opportunity by reposting this on /biz/, everyone should sage this thread

>> No.13451901

>>13451878
The KYC on OKeX is a joke, anon. Just google "Korean" or "Chinese" ID and use the 6+ page...first ones are taken. Will 100% get you approved.

>> No.13451985

>>13451065
>screencap'd for retardation

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>>13451402
aaahahahhahaa

>> No.13452700

>>13451863
BASED AND ETHPILLED MY NIGGA

>> No.13453012

OP is a bagholder

>> No.13453355

>>13445623
high quality satoshi thread

>> No.13453359

Kek

>> No.13453374

>>13445623
I honestly think Craig probably is Satoshi. I also believe that once he manages to prove it, the price of BSV will tank. 'Buy the rumor, sell the news' is a perfect phrase for what is happening here.

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>>13453374
>once he manages to prove it

>> No.13453414

>>13453374
the rumor is from 2014 the news he is not satoshi is from 2015 you are a bit late to the party

>> No.13453418

>>13453406
If he doesn't, then BSV will also just fade out, but more slowly.

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>>13445693

Correct. Mr. Craig is real Satoshi. BSV your real coin now. Confident buy.

>> No.13454015

>>13453418
why do you think we are swamped by crazed shills? everybody knows by now creg can't sign they are desperate for an exit. their bags lay heavy on their little cashie heart. they just want to dump them with as minimal loss as possible and that requires hype and a pump.

>> No.13454462

It's as good as it gets op

>> No.13455029

Bsv is the real bitcoin

>> No.13456060

>>13451863
This

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>> No.13456434

>>13451863
Unironically based. Thanks anon.

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13456727

https://vocaroo.com/i/s1w6ugLz14y1
do the needful sirs buy bsv

>> No.13457116

Bsv is going to the moon

>> No.13457333

>>13457116
if that is what you call your toilet...

>> No.13457638

>>13451863
Delete dis fren we must protect our secrets

>> No.13457991

KEK

>> No.13458431

>>13457638
No fren we must share the knowledge

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13458592

I though it was listed as BCHSV

>> No.13458614

>>13458592
no bch is bch sv is sv