/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>13400767
I was gonna take more time to get the font right (matching the Kraft font in the normal logo), I'll do it someday...
Actually I should have sized the image down too
Oh well live and learn

Dividends are your fren, but we're all in this to buy access to Khazar milkers. Who else holds crazy unsustainable yield stocks like CRF or WPG to buy KO with the divs?
(Also have some F for the div, averaged around $8.50)

>>13400859
Im thinking of dropping verizon because ive got AT&T already, what divvy should I replace it with?
Current holdings
T
CSCO
CMI
GM
LVS
PEP
PM
PG
VZ
WFC.

>>13400912
How bout CRI?

>>13400939
Will give them a look dank you anon.

>>13400912
>>13400957
I'd consider BX

>>13400974
That divvy is super high, is there a catch?

Sp looks sick. Will it dump?

Are we at euphoria yet?

>>13400912
I wouldn't drop Verizon. I have worked in a telecom industry for a while and let me tell you that they aren't going anywhere. I can't say the same about ATT, but I think both are worth holding because both are in booming industries, are stable, and pay a good dividend.

>Tesla and Boeing earnings tomorrow

>>13401392
What makes you think T wont make it for tge long haul?

>>13401407
When I say "I can't say the same about T" it's less in saying I think they will fail and more that I just don't know about their future. If the TMO sprint merger goes through, then I think they are gonna have a tough time keeping up with their wireless offerings. They still have plenty of underground networking though, so they can always fall back on leasing out their network. But from a purely wire less perspective, their customer service sucks, nobody cares about exclusive phones anymore, prices are high, and I think their speeds aren't really anything to praise. Just my two cents. In my m1 portfolio for dividends, I keep an even split of both VZW and T because telecom is gonna boom like fuck with 5g, I just don't know what Ts future in 5g will be

Also, we're back I missed you /smg/. Here's to hoping the biotech berning is over

>>13401431
Att has always been the fastest

Anyone here trading oil? It's spiking atm due to GDP growth and Iran tensions.

Don't look at LCI....

I was hoping the market wouldn’t dump today
Elon getting crushed? We will see

YVR

>>13401463
Bernie please no I will vote for you if you just stop it

SHOW YOUR HOLDS

>>13401761
>not holding yvr

Never going to make it

>>13400912
KMI, just raised their dividend, doesnt move an inch

Well well well thats cool and all but can healthcare pick direction for fux sake
>>13401575
I do from time to time

>>13401383
As with all emotional investing, if you have to ask where we are, were not there. If you say to yourself "I will never again have to work in my life" then sell everything. Same as when you hear yourself say "Oh god, i need to make it back" you buy.

>>13401773
oh shit nigger thanks

>>13400767

Amrs eliminated more debt, looks safer than ever.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH Healthcare WHY
I felt smart for a second

press F for the anon who had the CRON puts

>>13400767
Gonna dump 1k in my IRA yay

>>13401920
Yeah I'm still just holding onto green this morning. I want to catch another FDA approval so I'm hoping my stuff goes up so I can break even

>>13400767
If you faggots don't buy oil this instant you should not be trading

>>13401943
Im in for at least +5-7% gain but not catching perfect bottom hurts

>>13401944
>buying the hype
opposite of making it, losing it

>>13401944
why? I dont see enough power for some sort of aother push, we'd be in 68-69 already if we had some thrust

>he shorted crude

Its up and sideways and up and sideways

If the economy is bearish, why aren't you shorting everything?

>>13401993
It only goes up until 80/bbl in August for fundamental reasons.

>>13401989
shorting short term looks much better than sitting in long floating to the right
>>13402015
Because I'd like americans pay me gains through socialism program called QE, thank you fellow americans, helpful as always
>>13402019
Me know I liked playing it on way to 63 more than I like it now, we're nearing more sideways moves with less pumps and I dont want to be parked in oil for too long, gold's been better mover for few days

Where do you guys think the anon is that sold all his stocks on Christmas Eve is

Any truth to SESN R/S rumors?

>RAD reverse split
>RH users are so retarded they think they made money
Who is gonna tell them?

>>13402028
I've had a large long position in crude since Jan so I'm letting it ride.

Why aren't you value investing?

>>13402074

If they do, I'm selling and taking my profit.

>>13401575
If oil continues to rise significantly past this point it would be an incredibly bearish signal for the rest of the market. High oil prices could easily be a trigger for borderline firms in the US or China.

>>13402130
based and gainpilled, I was doing dumb shit like buying VIX in beginning of the year lol
thought it can go to 20s soon lmao

How in the fuck is biotech still crashing? I don't know what to do bros. I just broke even and now I'm down 10 percent for all time

>>13402353
we're in same boat, Im almost all in bio when it comes too speculative stonks

>>13402353

Down 9.2% for March/April. Fell ya bro.

It'd be really nice if you fucking kikes would stop running up the values with no volume to support it. Thanks.

>>13402394
Thats your kikes #notourkikes

>>13402107
Kek is that what happened? I was wondering what the heck caused that, didn’t see any news on them.

>>13402409
>>13402394
Hey fren it is I, the Jews. We’re busy right now fucking with Iran’s ability to sell oil.

>>13402474
>We’re busy right now fucking with Iran’s ability to sell oil.
fake jew

YVR

finna break out

>>13402353
>>13402374
Fucking retards stupid zoomers can’t diversify and gamble instead just buy a lotto ticket you have better odds

foodchads still enjoying the CAG parabola

>>13402304
I also put a grand in tvix at that time as a hedge. Oh well.

>>13402502
>better odds
>the actual lottery
I find this doubtful...
But you can’t win if you don’t buy a ticket! Lottery is new /biz/ strat confirmed!

>>13402489
My boy pompeio out there right now, tryna take funds away from the proud sponsor of Muslim terror organizations.

>>13402502
oh hello wanna be boomer dum dum, you mightve missed word speculative in my post, you see, you can have two different piles of money, one for diversified investment (although even there I rock 10-15 companies max at a time) and one for fun plays with money you can lose and not care, its more of a sportsmanship here
>>13402531
pompeo looks like retard at this point, Trade between Iran and china still going, rocketman is still having fun with rockets, Venezuela still is not under control, Russia continues to build pipes all over main continent, what's his job again?

>>13402502
Many of the stock zoomers are trust fund babies and have cash to burn some don’t even have jobs and focus on college instead
Silver spoon zoomers annoy the hell out of me especially when they don’t need to care about pissing money away in bio stocks I know someone who gets 25k every month out of his trust fund(17 years old from a big oil family) and burns it in bio he put 5k in NVAX when they were at 2 bucks and after it tanked I asked what his plan was and he said “No big deal I just lock in the loss and move on to the next” like how the fuck do you do that?

>>13402502
Talk shit post folio

>>13402591
theres always going to be king fucks of shit mountain out there, its really on you to not be so affected by it

>>13402585
You made the case for why trump looks like a dummy

But you forgot the wall, repeal and replace, and all the stupidity in the mueller report.

Mt. Pompeiio about to blow his top, watch out ayatollah!

>>13402591
“Lock in the loss and move on to the next one”
Looks like what I should’ve done with VSTM... but it feels too late, which is what I said last week.

>>13402531
>>13402502
Stock market tends to go up over time, so generally you will have better odds with equity than a lottery ticket, although both the lottery and penny stocks are basically gambling: only do them for fun, not for growing wealth.

>>13402706
8 years of incompetence in the White House could really take a toll on that though

>LEVI - 3%
>ISRG cratering
I see some buying opportunities here.

what % return do y'all realistically shoot for every month?

>>13402591
>Many of the stock zoomers are trust fund babies and have cash to burn some don’t even have jobs and focus on college instead
not my case, Im a zoom zoom who worked part times since my 15s, changed school contrary to parents advice, paid for private school with my own money while I was already working and when retards realized theyre fucking useless with their degrees I already had business degree with years of experience in real jobs. I speculate with some omney I can burn and I put my gains from here to gold or some 2+ year holds
It feels good to know Im fully responsible for my successes and fails in life, I even have record of all money my dad gave me before I turned 18 and I will repay everything to him, granted 0 interest is op but still I consider myself more self made than pals around

>>13402721
buy bonds then.

>>13402738

5% to 10% and I'm happy.

>>13402738
I would be happy with a slow and steady growth of 0,5 - 0,7% monthly. If things are better like in the last three months (+10%) I won't cry, but I'm not in search of moonshots.

Any predictions on what will happen to TSLA during their "autonomy day" investor livestream thing today? I'm predicting it's going to pump briefly then dip back down by tomorrow

My butthole is completely stretched out now... a few more inches on the red candle and we'll begin to prolapse.

>>13402743
Cool backstory but being born in North America means being born on the backs of giants.

Additionally zoomies didn’t enter the workforce during the Great Recession like the millennials, so still pretty blessed, though not as much as the boomers.

English speaking family, solid infrastructure, functional legal system, etc etc. there’s no such thing as self-made. But it’s cool that you’ve done all that on your own, you should still be proud.

>>13402862
I want peelon to make me nice short entry, we /tslaq/ here

>>13402814
0,5% monthly is less than the most boomery of boomer ETFs, breh. No point taking the time to trade for that.

>>13402874
>you didn't build that

>Zyne up 14%
The fuck is up with this one? Always making big moves.

>>13402874
>English speaking family, solid infrastructure, functional legal system, etc etc.
Im not in Murica, none of these things really apply to my starting points except legal system maybe, but then again I had to learn to cheese it too, I thought its established I currently chill in /euroop/ and I'm not even born europeen (not those ez life ref*gee either)
and yeah, but lately I realize theres a thin line betweenbeing proud of yourself and being proud of your past self, huge difference because fapping on your past slows your growth and progress in future

Good time to buy NTDOY?

>>13402891
I came very close to typing that. It’s accurate, just terribly expressed.

>>13402908
V. Based, but I don’t know your life story so i don’t know what’s been “established” about you. I am not a tripdickrider.

Do refugees really have an easy life tho?

>>13402931
>Do refugees really have an easy life tho?
I dont know tbqh we are one of few countries with no refugee problem (we get them, we unload them on main train stations and point them to train to Germany), we have shit social benefits for non working so it helps to keep plague away but when I visit ppl in Germany or Austria... fucking hell its total haram out there. Like last summer I legit was driving through austrian little town with 90% muslims around shit's crazy and Im sad to see this, they all have new cars god knows why and they drive like retards. I also know from some of our dudes that small local manufacturing enterpreneurs in germany literally dont know what to do bcs family of rapefugees with 5 kids can get 1+k in benefits monthly for doing nothing and small guys cant pay workers twice of what rapefugees get for free.

>Disney down going into opening weekend of their biggest film ever.
Wow. I really want to buy more, but I’m already not very diversified.

>forgot to buy bili, apha, and more CGC
FUCK MY LIFE 666

>>13402968
Bizarre. But trickle up economics does stimulate the economy, so as long as these people don’t send money to their home country, there is potential for these countries to benefit. Especially if refugees to Germany are buying German cars and shit.

Lucky you for living in Belgium or Lichtenstein or whatever small country. Hope Brexit doesn’t fuck you come October.

>>13402876
0,5% is still better than let the money to rot in a banking account like everyone here. I don't need to aim high, my retirement is guaranteed by europoor pension plan. By the way I prefer single stocks with good outlooks for the future, I hope they will go beyond my expectations.

Why is dis dropping so hard? Is this already selling the news for avengers opening Friday?

Are people worried about the delay of a new ride opening?

Just taking profits in a market that looks overbought?

>>13403104
Why would you compare active trading to letting it rot in a bank account? The alternative is dumping it in some index tracking mutual fund or ETF, like what I explicitly mentioned in my post you're replying to. Am I getting trolled right now?

>>13403078
what is the film?

>>13403186

Jews.

>>13402738
Pretty easy to hit at least 3% monthly selling covered calls and puts. Usually more than that.

>>13403214
Avengers: Social Justice Wars

>>13403225
I already told you, I am the Jews. We’re busy not eating bread right now. It’s Rosh Hashanah right now, we don’t eat bread because Abraham saved us from the burning of the temples, which was an evil plot from the national bakers union. Google it.

>>13403249
i think lion king is going to be their top grossing feature this year

>>13403249
>Abraham saved us from the burning of the temples, which was an evil plot from the national bakers union
Pottery

>>13403249
imagine being statue man in a world fill with flesh men

>>13403187
The guy above was asking the expected realistic monthly percentage. For daytraders, the percentage will be higher for obviuos reasons. For long term earnings, the monthly percentage will be lower.

>>13403266
Maybe... doesn’t frozen 2 come out this year though?

Still, avengers comes out first so it’ll be the biggest film ever until those two are.

>>13403273
I don’t write history, I just report it. The Last Supper was a meal without bread for this reason. Do you people not study the history of your lord and savior?

Have any of you ever even had a Muslim or Jewish friend?

All I do is lose money. Hundreds of dollars down the drain. I’m too deep now, I can’t just stop, I need to salvage my losses first.

>>13403312
All of my friends are crackers, nacho libres, and african americans. I could probably make a Jewish friend tho if I started throwing coins over in the business plazas downtown.

>>13403316
Iktf

Somehow my investing strategies are failing, but Thursday’s “fuck it, just buy a share of bunch of shit you’re interested in” non-strategy is doing really well.

>>13403316
Stop being a degenerate and record your trades and exit plans on pen and paper. You have to use pen and paper, no computers allowed for recordkeeping.

>>13403078
Ironically enough I'm more concerned with the fact that I'm unable to predict next recession in here. We had nice economy in 2008-09 and we fell into recession 2012 to 2014 because our economy works more normal than majority of countries nowadays so in an upside down world I am left to research and understand economic factors by myself. Good thing our economic ministry is not stupid. People overborrow just as much last two years though..

>>13403316

Now you're chasing hopes and dreams. The shit is gone. Move forward.

Also sell calls on your shit. Makes life a lot easier

What's the expectation for MSFT earnings (4/24)? Currently trading at around $123 analysits target is $125 I'm holding a 5/17 call at $120 my gainz are around 52%

I've seen companies beat their expectations only for the stock to plummet. What is the probability of this happening to MSFT?

>>13403341
don't listen to this man, he's long the pen and paper industries.

>>13403457
Lol filtered

Have almost 50 KO shares, do I buy more or buy June Calls for it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ucp0TTmvqOE

TSLA investor day livestream

UVXY finally turned red
What’s happening Ken?

>>13403570
No thanks. Just tell me whether it’s time for puts or calls.

Thoughts on TSLA?
Swing trading opportunity?

What is the value of an Elon pump?

pre-pump price: 263
post-pump day close price: ???

Going to be interesting data point. My guess is +10.

>>13403592
report + investor day, yes it's going to be a super volatile stock so the opportunity is there. Good luck guessing short or long. Just know that short play is more aggressive since it's not in the juicy 350 range.

Going to start shoving money into Komodo and silver because I don't want to wait 30 years to retire poor.

Plug please wake up

>just impulse bought KHC on news of new CEO

Holy shit what the fuck am I doing?!
That isn’t even Disney at all?!?!

>galt dying again
Interesting.

Yo /smg/, how's this condor looking like for upcoming earnings for MSFT?

>>13403788
Seems like pretty shit premium for that risk. Hope you win tho anon, Godspeed.

>>13403807
I was thinking of just closing the position before earnings cause of risk. What do?

>this thread

>>13403823
I‘d close out the put legs and keep the call credit spread. See if you can squeeze the call side wings closer for a higher premium too.

rkg been very quiet. not buying water cooling explanation, i think diazepam took best of her(him) :)

>>13403740
I think GALT might climb near the end of the week. At this level the RO will get the minimum 4 dollars. But bigger players might get in at the minimum as it drops.

I don't know. I'm buying at this level though. Good news constantly and yet no positive sentiment. People just don't know it even exists, I think.

>>13403857
Diazepam isn’t that intense. Probably just got bored of niceposting and supporting terrorism by propping up gpro.

>>13403831

>>13400767
Which of the books in the pastebin is a good modern introduction? Also post the google drive please.

This tesla event is fucking gay

Just locked in some LPTX losses!
Everything I’m doing today feels like a mistake!

>>13403851
Wtf do dat mean. When I try selling the put legs it gives me this

>>13403949
>he doesnt have $12k cash on hand at all times

never going to make it

>>13403949
You have to buy the 118 and sell the 117 back at the same time anon, lest thou findest thy naked among the seas of ruin.

How the fuck are these prices on a runaway climb with no volume at all?

tesla event live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ucp0TTmvqOE

>not being long tesla
bought some more today

cmon pump

When will VTGN get out of this dump and take us to the moon

GO BACK down
Bili and Disney it’s not time yet! Go back!
It’s Tim time, not you.

CGC is going fucking parabolic, and I didn’t have the balls to take a real position. I thought the news was processed, a lot faster, didn’t realize how long it take for pot to hype.

I’m a retard. Help me smg.

CGC is having a great day. Bunch of analysts upped it's target price. Can it crack 50.00 before markets close? Hold on to your blunts.

>>13403949
you need to have collateral for underlying if you're selling puts lol just buy a call

>>13404205
stop emotions
make informed decisions on what to do next
don't fomo
don't beat yourself up

Tesla won if this is not a lie.

Is the AMRS train still worth getting onto?

>>13404396
Yes if you're patient. If you're looking for a short term flip then I don't know.

YVR

>>13404430
How patient are we talking? I don't need to flip it this week but I'm not looking to hodl for 6+ months

>>13403939
I mean unless you were option trading I don't see why. At least could have waited for the speculation for their upcoming catalysts to push the price back up. I'm still holding it personally, even though I'm at like a 12cent loss per share

>>13404444
Yeah I dunno then, I'm holding this one long term. Sick quads though m8.

Andre going ot pump it to 280

it's over boys,

Newfag here, what are some good long term holds?
Thinking of holding something like SCHD and VTSAX, as well as some biomedicine stock such as EDIT and NTLA. I really believe in the CRISPR meme
Any advice?

>>13403980
>>13404299
Done. Also, do you guys think I should keep this for upcoming earnings and hope for a turnaround?

Sideways days are so fucking boring

andre is about to impress everyone watching

for those that dont know, he is like the opposite of the first speaker. Very articulate, intelligent, and head of AI. Hand picked from OpenAI by elon

expect a big pump before ER report

>>13404513
Not if you look at it a different way :^)

>>13404513
>>13404561
Change your perspective (^:

This is a troll presentation for investors. Ridiculing their lack of scientific knowledge of basic things they should know to invest in any company in 2019

>>13404440
>21,000 volume today
>14mm market cap
pffttthahahaha

>>13400912
$O is dipping from 52wk high. Pays .22 a month per share.

GANBATTE LEAP-SAN

>>13404680
hodl your galt bags fag

youll never make it

>people think tesla should be profitable
>not realizing all the tesla owners are just training self-driving cars for free

meanwhile googl is paying $20 an hour for every robotaxi driver. It's fucking genius.

Anyone else suspicious of this slow grind higher on ever decreasing volume? Keep in mind we're basically at peak bullish sentiment again, at least among retail investors

>>13404822
Depends. If this round of earnings is good, tech doesn‘t die, reits don‘t shit themselves, etc. then it‘ll be justified; probably just keep going higher after that.

>>13403234
I am new to options and own some shares. I've considered selling covered contracts but I don't know how do you calculate what is safe? They all seem like such a small amount

>>13404749
easy there big guy

Ding ding ding! How did everyone do today? I’m up .01%, what a bizarre day. Natgas is up, cancelled out almost exactly by everything else I have doing slightly bad. I’m sick and can’t be bothered to look at charts today, whatever

>>13401383
Just saw that SPY hit 156 in 2000 and was still below that level in 2013. I don't know if even the most patient buy and hold investors here would be able to tolerate a 13 year period of no returns

>>13404951
-1.15%

But any moment now its all gonna turn around.

>>13404886
Safe is a rather arbitrary term. But selling covered options, both puts and calls, are one of the safest ways to build capital. Since you‘re new, selling puts is basically a limit buy order, except you get paid to place the order. If the stock falls below the strike, you now own those shares (and keep the credit obv). Covered calls earn you premium on shares you own, effectively reducing your cost basis on those shares. If you get assigned on a call, you still keep all the premium and sell your shares at the strike. If the strike is above your cost basis for that stock, you‘ve made profit.

tl;dr you get paid for buying and selling shares as normal.

>>13405014
its easier to hold investments when you're getting paid dividends every month/quarter. plus DCAing means you're going to lower your cost basis and be back in the green a lot sooner than if you simply hold for the entirety.

>>13405030
It’ll get better soon fren. I had an extremely vivid dream last night that I made a good-ish options play and made 290 dollars. That exact amount, not even anything crazy. I wonder what that means.

the more I learn about trading the more I realize you have to have several tens of thousands of dollars if you want to make it

and I really dont think you can make living off of trading unless you have $100,000 in capital

>>13404716
What a ride!
I bought more at 1.63 then trimmed at 1.65. Feel like a retard, didn’t see that breakout coming.

Let it be real this time.

>>13404951
Up 0.14% ($35). TSLA sapped away most of my LPTX and GBR gains.

>>13403688
I could sell puts on plug for a nice premium but I'm afraid it will collapse
Any scary things coming up?

>>13405053
So this is the power of the US stock market.
$1 grows to a massive $1.14 over an 18 year period

>>13405130
the more I learn about trading, I always ask myself if I can beat the market, and if I could is the time I spend worth it

it's really hard, so I invest in ETFs, etc

This is the lowest we’re going to get Disney til ER. Buy now, and either hold or sell into earnings.

Your welcome. Gotta love capeshit. Gotta love franchises like Frozen, Toy Story, and Lion King.

>>13403905
altought it was not only diazepam but opioids prescription too :P

>>13404951
Up 0.7%. Really frustrated CVS isn't bouncing back more aggressively from last week's drop

>ctrl+f: RHE
>no results

did u faggots not see that stock today? up 248% at one point today

>>13405175
DIA is my favorite friend
>>13405284
Luv you bby

I'm in 10 shares of tsla at 264 each..

don't fail me musky

>>13405284
Based niceposter

>>13405380
>summons the SEC
Based grimey! We appreciate cunny!

>>13405380
good luck to you anon

>>13405284
You see the new video Hayat Tahrir al-Sham put out? Very impress ad for GPRO
https://twitter.com/QalaatAlMudiq/status/1119910203565191168?s=20

>>13405380
good choice, look at TSLA as a waymo that doesn't pay it's testers and gets them to buy the test vehicle. Value it at as a robotaxi company first.

This is going to be 10,000 dollars a contract come friday. Don’t say I didn’t warn you

Screenshot

>>13405333
Why can't I know about these mega moon missions BEFORE the fact?

>>13405419
>not taking profit now
OHHH BOY. Saving this one

Tesla as a car company was always a ruse. The secret to Tesla is it is a robotaxi software company that built the lowest cost solution (EV) and has the largest training fleet by 100x all competitors combined.

The production of cars was secondary and of lesser value than self driving at the lowest cost price in the world and having 3+ years headstart on roll out.

Uber/Waymo have capacity that is miniscule compared to tesla.

Is there any point to holding Yamana Gold? It’s gone down recently and kept me down despite everything else being nice and green.

>>13405419
>>13405466
ANON

I just wanted to take a moment to say

FUCK Chink liars and thieves
FUCK insectoids and their staged, "exploding" battery packs

The communist party is still coping with their fail when journalists were locked in a stalled vehicle during a press-event.

Thank you, to all slit-eyed cat eaters. You helped me make my very first TSLA trade today.

>>13405562
Tell me what will happen with earnings in two days, Anon

I found out my savings account at my local bank has a miniscule interest rate. I don't actually want to open another bank account, so I'm putting some extra into Robinhood for bond ETFs.
Any suggestions for those? 3% yield would be nice because with taxes it will drop the real interest rate lower

>>13405679
bonds are pathetic

buy equities or else you will never make anything

>>13405562
Who this gorl?
She cute.

>>13405687
Most of my funds are in equities silly, I'm just using bond ETFs as a savings account.

>>13405702
Pepe Hillary is a cute

>>13405702
>>13405774
https://www.theverge.com/2017/2/6/14522542/pepe-the-frog-france-le-pen-meme

slow?

>>13405591
they are going to look atrocious, everyone already knows hence 260

>>13403078
Demand side economics might work but at what cost? All they will do is destroy the middle class even further, but hey the economy is booming so whatevs.

>>13404702
Shit I havent beem watching O that closely lately, I thought wouldnt come down in a while.

>>13405804
If earnings are going to be terrible, is it priced in?
Will Tesla actually moon on bad earnings?

>>13405921
I wish I knew the future.

>>13405927

some easter worshippers died, it's bad

having a bit of a hard time in this market the past few weeks
I see things I like and I buy them, I make gains that are roughly in-line with the market.

But if something really puts the market on its ass in the next couple weeks I won't be super ready for that.
I mean in the mid term (like 50 months) the goal is to navigate a bit of a market downturn and buy nice things cheap.
But I'm seeing things that are good values already, I can buy them and make decent returns. So I'm worried about getting greedy and caught with my hand in the cookie jar if/when the market really dumps. At the same time, I'm not even making as much as some other people. And it gives me the feeling that I should be playing a little more, risking more in the markets to achieve more gains, while my long term strategy is all about controlling risk and making sure not to lose money.

Says a lot of nothing, maybe. Maybe I put too much time into trading to be so diversified and safe. I just don't have the intensity to really fight the market right now. I don't see anything too out of position that I think I should strike at it

>>13400859
I'm going for growth until October, then cash until March or April. Selling losers saved me 2k last year and ICLN is up 20+%.

>>13405983
Some interns fucked up making the tweets all verbatim to whatever memo was being passed around. It’s interesting to note that Yang, Beto, and ofc Trump are clearly outside this circle.

BREAKING NEWS

SHARE AND SHORT TESLA
SHARE AND SHORT TESLA
SHARE AND SHORT TESLA

https://youtu.be/X1xTWxEruik
https://youtu.be/X1xTWxEruik
https://youtu.be/X1xTWxEruik

1:28
1:28
1:28

TESLA SELF IGNITES
TESLA SELF IGNITES
TESLA SELF IGNITES

>>13406150
short tesla long yvr

>>13406150
this happened sunday

in trustworthy china

>>13400859
It’s seriously rediculous that she has such massive milkers on such a slender frame.

Long tiddymonsters

>>13406150
Yeah okay but what does this mean for bilibili?

>>13406219
if BILI is under $20 just buy it
do NOT mess around. do NOT delay. Just buy and keep buying

So this is the current spread of my dividend portfolio by type:
Real Estate: 33 percent
Telecom: 23 percent
Industrial Sectors: 15 percent
Consumer (food, retail) 11 percent
Automotive: 9 percent
Technology: 9 percent
Yearly dividend payout is about 4.1 percent.

Thoughts? I'm thinking of dropping real estate down since it shits out so hard in terms of its overall value.

>>13406255
Yeah okay but why?
I can’t find any good info out about the China company. It needs a Ma

>>13405679
>>13405687
If you use a bond etf as you're savings account you're going to run the risk of it breaking the buck, that is you might loose some of your principal at the time you withdraw. That said, generally just go with anything that's primarily government bonds. Alternatively, if you're not planning to touch this money for a long time, you could get a savings bond from treasurydirect or buy agency debt.

>>13406025
start buying bonds so you don't get caught flat footed when the big one hits.

>>13404822
I think this is it. This year has been shit for 'the man.'
Real estate isn't an affordable option. Cheap shit and as cheap. Nobody got raises. Everyone is just orchestrating the time and reason

>>13406272
I have no idea what you mean by this
>>13406288
I want to watch you make this from scratch. I want to play around with it but there’s too much I don’t understand.

>>13406326
“The man” got a corporate tax cut, record breaking ceo pay, and stock market near all time highs. Real estate bubble in urban and suburban US is insane, only the richiest can afford homes. I’m not worried about the man.

>>13403078
>trickle up economics does stimulate the economy
citation where?

>>13406260
nothing wrong with real estate, really depends what you're holding. But going from 33% down to 25% or 20% would be fine.
There is some FUD in the air about automotive, but I'm still holding F for the divvy. Again, be cautious there but no reason to be fearful.
23% telecom seems high to me

>>13406288
I only buy bond ETFs, but currently very light (2.4% of my RH). Along with some PM miner ETFs. Maybe I'm being greedy, but I'd like to see TLT under 121.50 before I really get in.

Should I DIS in my roth?

Fucking love fintel. Best screener. Except I can't screen by industry. What the fuck man. Someone with a github account go tell them to fix this oversight.

>>13406260
Real estate via publicly traded avenues is always going to be a worse deal than just buying the real estate. You're losing out a lot on the bottom line due to management expenses that you wouldn't experience if you just owned outright, even if you hire a management company on your own.

>>13406405
Yes. Now and if it sells off after ER get more.

>>13406426
This is assuming your broker has DRIP and you’re not retiring in the next 5-10 years.

>>13406355
It took a good 5 days of near nonstop coding, and I'd actually have to reconstruct some of it to get this graph back exactly since I've been fiddling with it.

If you want to know how to do stuff like this, learn how to code in R. It's actually pretty easy.

>no mad money tonight
What should I watch or listen to on my way home?
Maybe those ray dalio skits on economics or something?

PCG KEEPS FLYING

>>13406382
Sounds like you should set some limit orders for that price then.

>TLOG
WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT?!

Hi all. I checked out bogle heads website since I want to be a boomer but the info looks dated. any guides out there where I can start learning about investing purely for dividends.

>>13406542
>boomer
>looks dated

also been using robinhood as a means for now. wondering if this is good for long term.

>>13406462
>Watching Mad Money to begin with
Garbage programming. Cramer is a certified moron and Jew.

>>13406533
>otc
>sub 1M market cap

nothing happened

>>13406527
nah that sounds dumb

>>13406542
>looks dated
value investing doesn't really change. what does change are values.
that being said, you need to make big-picture decisions about how you want to dividend invest. Funds, picking equities, or a mix? what mix of different sectors do you want?

just buying SPVU, SPYV, DIV, VIG etc. will be fine. If you want to have fun and 'do some work', you can be more ambitious

>>13406562
>Jews give bad financial advice
Now I KNOW you’ve never had a Jewish friend. Good luck with that.
>Clowns are fools
Cramer literally is the Pagliacci of the financial world. Catering to a low common denominator does not make a man a fool.

>didn’t even answer the question
Go jerk it to some foot porn. If you’re not gonna help then go feed the kelp.

>>13406575
Not vug? Returns look pretty based.

>>13406575
thanks for the awesome reply. Never invest before in my life so I don't know what sectors to pick. All I've been doing is buying tons of KO since it seems to be a good value for the price.

Been putting a big percentage too of my salary to 401k because my company has a good match and picked vanguard for the investments.

Thinking about how I would only be able to use that not before 60 makes me think about putting it into stocks instead.

>>13406623
You know what you're at least half right and I'll concede somewhat. He is not a complete fool. He most certainly knows how to run a real portfolio company. However, what he displays on his show is still vulgar clownishness that no level-headed person should watch.

>>13406633
feels like buying growth at or near the top to me.
I haven't done the deep tryhard research into the components, but just as a general feeling I like a more value play here. Some growth of course.
And the poster I was replying to was asking about dividend investing.

>>13406642
Buying KO is fine. but of course you want other things too.
I bought KO right when they tumbled from $50 in February, I've generally had OK luck buying the consumer goods companies when they dump (CAG at 21.28, etc.). Currently shoveling money into KHC and NWL while they stabilize.

Holding cash is fine, up to 25%, 50% even, if you can be smart and put it to good use when you see an opportunity. Maybe 50% is too much, but certainly you want a few Yang in the chamber that you can throw at a good stock if it dumps.

I think my company only matches 2.5%, so I put 3% in my 401k. Don't really care about retirement age, by that time I'll have more money than I know what to do with. But definitely hit the match.

Pill me on dividends. Once my shitcoin [ x ] inevitably ascends the first thing I want to do is find a good blue chip dividend that I can use to spend the rest of my days NEETing comfortably at $3,000~ a month.

The big one is coming

>>13406813
The big LCI short squeeze?

>>13406711
Will be keeping that advice in mind, won't put all my cash and have some ready.

My company provides $6,000 per year for the 401k which should be good? I guess.

What is this VUG? only cared about living on dividends and never researched on other investments.

>>13406542
is this a meme?

>>13406833
How deep in are you anon?

>>13406742
SOMEONE check my logic here. I don’t want to mislead this young son.

They’re good. Useful for companies that make money but aren’t big growers. But they’re priced in. Theoretically, if your dividends are reinvested, you’ll get the same returns you would if the same company’s shares cost less but didn’t pay a dividend.

(generally, you would want a company that Has been consistently paying and raising their dividend for years. IDEALLY you want that company to have major growth potential as well. Think Disney and their new Disney+ service. Think a company that already knows how to make shit load of money and had been killing it in Hollywood without getting #MeToo’ed. That company is now getting a Netflix sized growth engine
...with a market that has enough money for both now that they’re cancelling their cable service, and Disney already owns most of Hulu. Think of the fact that they now own Star Wars, The Avengers, The Simpson’s, X-men, and all those Marvel TV Series on Netflix. This is the worldwide theme park owner, who the fuck wouldn’t want to go on a ride from one of those series? Think of Frozen 2, The new Avengers movie, the new Toy Story movie, the new Lion King. Think of Pixar. Think of all those families needing something to do with their kids.

Also think of Altria, the tobacco giant, owning a cannabis company and an e-cigarette company.)

>>13406896
3103 at 7.60

Though earlier profit taking has me on top by about 2k. I feel good about that stock desu. But I recognize the meme-ness of it.

just came out. If you're counting on a recovery in healthcare, don't.

>>13406925
Biden will end the nonsense.

>>13406882
VUG is growth.
growth vs. value is a stock dichotomy that you should know about:
https://www.fidelity.com/learning-center/investment-products/mutual-funds/2-schools-growth-vs-value
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/professionals/072415/value-or-growth-stocks-which-best.asp
https://www.merrilledge.com/article/growth-vs-value-investing-two-approaches-to-stocks

value stocks -> dividends, slower increase of share price
growth stock -> share price rises, you sell the stock for a gain

>>13406925
If biotech and healthcare material/service provider stocks keep getting cheaper, I will keep buying
I will not stop
the money won't really go away, worst case the government will just spend money that doesn't exist.
I understand that I might have to wait weeks or months while XBI bottoms out and then slowly rises again but I'm not turning down the value I'm seeing right now

>>13406919
Good luck anon! LCIGay and going rogue bro have convinced me of the short thesis, but I can't confidently commit money to it. Might pick up 5 shares as a meme though!

>>13406962
Whatever happens with it might happen soon. Slick hair man and the shorts are at open name-calling warfare. Short percentage is the highest it's ever been.

BILI's stock price dipped quite a bit this morning. Apparently that's because of the news that their entire website source code get leaked onto github, and Chinese investors see this as a bad news and started shorting their stock during those hours. Yet what they don't realize is that the news was not being reported on English media and that's why the stock price renounced during Asian midnight.

>>13406958
With a single payer system there will be much greater negotiating power on behalf of customers, so even hospitals will see lower profits.

>>13406897
awesome post! shouldve put my money on disney instead of going all ham on KO.

>>13406956
Biden is going to get torn apart by the Dems rabid base, hes too old, too creepy and too white to win in current year +4

>>13407041
Then Trump will waltz into another 4 years.

Maybe Gay Butti from South Bend can pull it off.

>>13407041
If he gets the Obama endorsement, and it's him vs. Bernie and a field of mystery meat candidates, it seems like he gets it. Bernie is also old and white, but most democrats realize that Biden is probably their best chance to beat Trump. Even the most crazed BS supporters and haters of white men will vote for him when the day comes

>>13407023
The value is still there the profit is still there. I can see it. I can feel it. The companies I'm investing in will do very well in a wide range of circumstances. If they get even cheaper, so much the better for me. I have enough cash for all of em

>>13407035
C-can’t tell if sarcastic or not. But yes, yes you should be buying Disney. At current levels, it’s a steal. But it may dip after ER when people realize how much they’re spending this year.

But if you’re investing for your retirement, you’re not doing to find much better that the mouse.

>>13407055
If they keep up their crazy theatrics Im not sure the Dems can win, Biden would have a good chance but if he cant get the nomination then the point is moot.
Idk if even Bernie could clinch the nomination this time either, the Dem base might turn on him for capitulating to Hilldawg in '16.

I fear the Dems, but a Democrat president could be good for the domestic firearms industry.

>>13404396
>>13404396
AMRS is always worth getting into. Today everyone thinks how their life would have been different if they had bought AMZN in the 90s. In 20 years normies will be mad they had no idea it existed until it was too late.

>>13407101
What domestic firearm companies can you even invest in that are worth a damn? I know JPM has a stake of S&W, so that may be a way to go.

But I think Biden is getting past the creepy thing OK, maybe not the old thing though.

>>13407101
Republicans will play up Bernie knowing it paints the Democrats as insane, which is easy to do because they are. Few will want Bernie if the economy is sound. No one wants to crash a good thing for a pipe dream.

That's why Gommie went full doomsayer. He has to in order to think Bernie has a chance for his Utopia.

>>13406205
>in trustworthy china
Kek, if the video started 30 seconds earlier you would have seen the NIO rep with a can of gas and a lighter.

>>13406362
> "stimulates economy"
> not "stimulates economy in a sustainable way"
Checks out, no citation needed. People buy things, that moves money into companies hands. They have more business and need more employees. Hell they may even pay their current employees more. Service/consumer staples always benefit from more money in more hands.

>>13407101
Sanders has taken the lead in both Iowa and New Hampshire at this point, Butthead is digging into Biden's base.

As for possible assets worth investing in under a dem presidency I can think of a couple
- Consumer staples
- Corporate Bonds
- TIPS
- Renewable Energy
- Battery Components
- Transportation
- Electric Cars (not tesla)
- Online Streaming

>>13407115
Smith and Wesson, Ruger and Savage have been killing it the last 10 years, especially Ruger. Back when the founder was still alive they were a fudd run disaster, their comeback is probably the best in the industry.
I wish PSA would go public, Im a huge fan of their management.

>>13407132
I think Sanders has a 50-50 chance as is, a recession will make it 99%. Trump isn't popular, and Sanders could probably steal some of his voters while preserving most of the democratic base. Any losses in the suburbs could probably be made up for with higher trunout and independents.

>>13407115
Biden's issue is people like O'Rouke and Buttigieg cutting into his vote share.

>>13407166
This is more or less what I meant.
The supply-side economists would say that the money that the corporations rake in would end up in R&D, investing in efficient technology, and even increased wages.

But we just saw the real outcome: executive bonuses and corporate buybacks.

>>13407166
Trickle down works it just doesnt work at helping 99% of the country,
Trickle down makes our economy bigger and puts more money in the hands of people who can use it to create more value.
Problem with trickle down is people get paid the same no matter what and more money goes to the top then bottom. If you are middle class or lower trickledown is not something to vote for.. trickledown(which is dems a Rs) is why our middle class is almost extinct. Lower classes need more money but industries down eant to be upset by new money so the cycle continues

>>13407187
>trump idn’t popular
You’re funny

>>13407115
RUGR and AOBC. VSTA too. AOBC is S&W and their S&P Sport II is one of the best selling AR-15 models of all time, if not the best. I wouldn't be surprised if they've sold more than Colt. That combined with their M&P 2.0 pistols being one of the best bargains in quality striker fired handguns (it's arguably better than a glock and can be found for almost $200 cheaper) you'd be looking at a company that surges under an impending dem presidency. I got caught holding the bag on them when Trump won however, and that wasn't all that cool, so make sure you know who's going to win or sell on election day.

>>13407189

>>13406897
Check my logic frens

>>13407224
>>13407183
Based, didn’t realise RGR was trading. Don’t know anything about guns, almost interested in a guns etf. I just think they’ll make money when election season ramps up, because the NRA and GOP know how to get their base frothing at the mouth.

Tbh I think most gunfags are idiots for wasting all their money on things that go boom and doomsday prepping. If they were real patriots they’d pump that money into my S&P index funds. But shooting is fun and shit.

>>13407218
Compared to past presidents with this kind of economy? No he's not. His approval rate is hovering around 40%.

>>13407207
The growth of such a kind of model is unstable, if the 1% is investing all their money while everyone else is struggling to get by, eventually you will get a crisis when you can't find enough demand for all the bullshit you produced.

>>13407286
>compared to past presidents with this kind of economy

Fuck I hadn’t looked at it that way. I just look at the mess the dems are in and think “fuck. This recession may last a loooooong time”

I don’t think trump takes good advice, and will be even more stubborn when SHTF

>tfw bought calls on Whirlpool today

>>13407267
>tfw you have more money in guns, gear and ammo than you have in the stock market
To be fair though I inherited a couple of registered machine guns, that's 50k alone.

>>13407338
Thinkin of buying my first rifle this week or next here. Nothin crazy, just a .22 to get started. Any shooting tips for the range?

>>13407372
was it a private sale or are you now on a trajectory to eventually be in a list of gun owners maintained by the feds? (when gun stores go bankrupt the feds get their sales records.)

>>13407338
>>13407372
been thinking of buying a gun myself too. Haven't shot one since my boy scout days.

>>13407187
Dont fall into the trap of purely gauging off approval ratings, its not as significant during a presidential race. People opinions can change fairly drastically when there is someone to compare to.

>>13407267
Eh, im a gunfag but ive got enough money that im still in above average financial shape. Im all for preparedness and freedom but I agree, the gun crowd are too consumerist, focusing on buying shit rather than being competent or useful.

>>13407286
40% is more or less middle of the road, and for how unrelenting the negative coverage is im surprised its not lower.

>>13407417
was gonna buy online, turns out my neighbor is an FFL dealer so i can literally walk 50 feet and pick it up from him.

>>13407418
we'll see who's the better shot here soon then lmao. I'm gonna see if I can apply some of those physics i learnt in uni for some 200 yd bullseyes

>>13403104
no one is letting money rot in an account. seems this general is trending away from daytrading and more towards divvies, if anything.

t. SPY and AWK for the long haul.

>>13407101
>Biden would have a good chance but if he cant get the nomination then the point is moot.

Joey "Snuggles" Biden isn't going to make it out of the primaries.

>>13407372
The two most important things for new shooters are this. 1 - don't worry about what other people think. You might look like an idiot who can't shoot and knows nothing about guns and that's fine, everyone starts there and 2 - if anyone offers advise listen, it's usually a great community, but also think about what they're telling you to do and see if it works for you before committing to changing the way you shoot. Other than that watch lots of youtube, the worst thing for me about learning to shoot wasn't the shooting, but the gear issues. Learn to zero your scope if you're using one by watching lots of videos on the different techniques. I have a lead sled (a shooting rest) that can lock a rifle into place. So to zero a rifle I pull out the bolt and actually look down the barrel and compare where the scope points vs where the barrel points before I even shoot (when possible, depends on the rifle). Wear ear and eye pro, and bring back ups. Remember batteries for any electronic gear you're using (typically just scopes, but you never know.) Gloves are cool. But as far as actual advise shooting goes, remember the affect your trigger pull has on your accuracy. You have to squeeze the trigger, not jerk it backwards. Shoot slow before you shoot fast. Get splatter targets (sold at every shooting store every) not the plain paper as you won't be able to see where you shoot otherwise. Get a good target stand, not a cheap wire one. The one I use is just a steel base that accepts 1x2s you can buy at homedepot for like $2 as the attachment points. Shoot from different positions at different types of targets. (clay pigeons are awesome for any gun, cheap soda for something a little more reactive....). Most importantly though, learn the 4 rules and follow them religiously. Be safe and have fun anon.

>>13407418
>>13407372
Get your CCW and take a pistol class and buy ammo and practice.
As basic bitch as they are a used glock is probably the best handgun you can buy out there right now. You cant really go wrong with any plastiplastic framed 9mm pistols on the market right now. A M&P 2.0, Glock 19, CZ p10c, SIG320 etc are all excellent handguns.

9mm is also super super cheap so the cost of practice isnt high.

Holy shit I’m living in a madhouse that I’ve gotten used to, and rationalize not moving out because I hate spending money for nothing (rent) and love making money on stonks.

I think I gotta start pulling money out of the market and start paying rent. This place is not healthy for me. I need to make big changes.

Problem is I left my job to focus on school, and I’m going to go into an intense 2 year program next year, if I’m lucky.

Wish me luck.

>>13407295
Well they don’t seem to be pumping any breaks on it and only further policy destroying middle class. The future is pretty fucked if you don’t have a lot of money

>>13407513
Thanks fren, I'll remember this. I think I'll just have iron sights for a bit and learn to point and shoot that before I slap on an optic. Actually though, is there anything out there that measures the angle of elevation of the muzzle? Just like a protractor/waterbubble thingy that reads off an angle?

>>13407515
>Get your CCW
Don't need to. Pic related. I'll get a handgun later if I enjoy the rifle. Always liked the look of CZ75s.

>>13407567
CZs are underated af.
>Potatoland
Idaho? Im in North NV, not as much potato as sage brush.

We really missed the SNAP train lads

>>13407516
Good luck. If you are in school that doesn't sound like a dire situation though.

r8 don't h8

>>13403949
>MSFT
My sad feelings throughout

>>13407659
sony, nintendo, twitter, and tesla are kinda memey. But I give it a solid techfolio/10. Definitely brag to /g/ later when you make it.

>>13407286
Trump has a solid and big base unlike obama, but to get that big base you need to risk the rest of the votes, you won't see trump with more than 50% of approval but you also won't see him with less than 40%, and the rest is you talking shit at this time of the year reagan had 35% and obama 38% and they got easily re-elected trump is fine.

>>13407655
Thanks.

But how so? School means that I have a very limited schedule that changes every semester to find a new job with. And I can’t get a job in my field for at least 2 years.

Really don’t want to be a lyftcuck. My car is pretty dirty.

SENS
tell me why i shouldnt go all in?

>>13407693
The economy was much worse when they had those ratings. And we have seen Trump less than 40% many times

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1120502923136520192

I stand by all previous remarks and trades

>>13407830
Wow, fuck this guy.

He has insane resources at his disposal, and he spends it on self-driving cars, something we can already do? I’ll do just fine driving my own car, no thanks.

MAKE ANIME REAL YOU FUCK
FUND CATGIRLS
FUND BIG TIDDY GOTH GORLS
FUND QT ROBOT MAIDS
MAKE ANIME REAL YOU SHORTSIGHTED ASSHOLE

>>13407866
>>13407866
>>13407866
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