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13372470 No.13372470 [Reply] [Original]

He's lost his fucking mind

>> No.13372475

I guess he wants to try and get a stupid judge to believe his alternate ways to prove he's Satoshi.

>> No.13372489

Signing with a key proofs you have the key.
Craig want to proof he is Satoshi.

Not investing in Bsv = You will get rekt

>> No.13372490

>>13372475
There is no trick, no secret scheme. He really is just a massive retard.

>> No.13372493

>>13372470
it makes zero sense not to prove himself tothe public whos obedience and adoration he is after while retaining plausible deniability, but to a court of law opening himself up to litigation and still not convincing anyone in crypto he is not a fucking fraud. satoshi would never be this stupid.

>> No.13372494

>>13372489
Nope. He's going to bullshit himself right into jail, totally unnecessarily, while everyone looks on with their mouths open in disbelief. Screencap this.

>> No.13372501

>>13372489
if you cant sign with the genesis key that is proof you are not satoshi.

>> No.13372514

>>13372501
Nice logic, retard.

>> No.13372538

>>13372514
its the best way to prove
cant sign -> not satoshi
there is like 0.000000000001% chance satoshi actually lost the pk to the genesis block despite being a smartass about how to never delete wallets and backup your keys we must allow fof that uncertainity.

>> No.13372552

>>13372470
Assuming that he's a fraud, the only reason he would do this is because he knows the real identity of Satoshi.

>> No.13372565

>>13372552
i would argue that despite all deflections he was very motivated to prove himself to be satoshi if he could he would have already.

>> No.13372586
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>>13372494
Kek, exactly how i imagine it.

>> No.13372594

>>13372470
if he in any way could convince the majority of miners that hes satoshi, without actually having the genesis key, could he implement some shit so he could access the genesis wallet?

>> No.13372600

>>13372594
because he knows none is gonna stop him because satoshi dead or whatever and cant prove otherwise

>> No.13372624

>>13372594
you can access the genesis wallet if and only if you have the genesis key

>> No.13372639

>>13372514
>t. fag who lost their private keys

>> No.13372644

>>13372470
If you don't like it, STIFF.

>> No.13372674

>>13372600
>because he knows none is gonna stop him because satoshi dead or whatever and cant prove otherwise

I think this is the case here tbqh

>> No.13372676

>>13372594
Sit him down in an interview test setting and get him to do some cryptographic work and programming. Not just talk about it, but do it.

>> No.13372683

>>13372624
or create your own shitfork that allows mining very old unspent outputs

>> No.13372693

>>13372490
The trick/scheme is that he wants to delude individual people, because his shit simply will not pass muster in public.
He can't actually sign the genesis block, so he pulls some smoke & mirrors out of his ass in one-on-one situations to fool gullible idiots like Andresen and (hopefully) this judge.

>> No.13372694

>>13372676
what would that prove tho? not saying he can do shit but come on... satoshi had the genesis pk his pgp pk to prove his identity any day he choose

>> No.13372698

>>13372693
i think so too he is fishing for monetary support but the most gullible dried up

>> No.13372701

>>13372676
What would the point of that be? The guy literally has hundreds of peer reviewed papers on the topic. He also used to lecture about programming at uni. It's all available online if you just bother doing a minimum amount of research.

>> No.13372703

>>13372701
that 100 is more like 6, 3 of which is actually relevant

>> No.13372704

>>13372489
he submitted a forged date on a pgp email to court already you absolute mongloidian dumbfuck. he is an incompetent fraud

>> No.13372717

>>13372703
and I would not be surprised if he paid the real author to add his name there

>> No.13372723

>>13372693
If you try really hard you can come up with plausible theories. But every single move he has made has been a flaming embarrassment. At this point only serious mental illness explains his actions.

>> No.13372741

>>13372624
>>13372594

The "genesis wallet" doesn't exist and is unspendable.

>> No.13372747

>>13372552
Yeah, and that he knows Satoshi is either dead or a massive hikikomori incapable of speaking up against him.

>> No.13372755

>>13372741
i meamt the first blocks key the genesis block key obv

>> No.13373138

>>13372489
I can smell the esl from your post, indian

>> No.13373482

>>13372470
You're the one who's lost his mind.

CSW has an understanding of Bitcoin that all these shitcoin "experts" could never dream of. Have you ever seen Bitcoin code in Fortran? I have. Literally one person was capable of writing it.
Once BSV becomes a mainstream currency you'll all be weeping.

>> No.13373492

>>13372701
I attended one of his C++ courses. He never wrote a line of code and spent more of it talking about why Intel's C compiler is better than gcc and clang.

>> No.13373513

>>13373482
Why the FUCK would anyone bother coding in fucking Fortran?

>> No.13373547

>>13373482
I'm honestly jealous of him. CSW has such a multiplicity of talents, and constantly on a learning spree. Why would such a man fall so low as to forge documents?

>> No.13373576

>>13373513
>Why the FUCK would anyone use a language with 30 years of hardening and resilience specifically for financial applications when they could use C and write an app full of exploitable memory errors

>> No.13373589

>>13372676
This. Satoshi would easily be able to navigate through the bitcoin source and code on top of it. CSW cant even write a simple hello world without c/p. Guys a fucking moron. His own mother even said hes a pathological liar. Fuck this cunt stop fucking making posts about him.

>> No.13373594

>>13373576
Fortran is not that much safer than C. What you're looking for is functional languages.

>> No.13373703
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>>13373547
He's playing cat and mouse with retards, it keeps them off balance. I think he is enjoying keeping disbelievers in permanent state of confusion and rage while he files patents and builds the future of money right under their noses.

>> No.13373715

>>13372755
or more precisely the key to the address the genesis block paid the miners reward fuck.
yes it was a clusterfuck what i said but it's what i meant.

>> No.13373723

>Suddenly massive news on msm on btc
>140M$ xlm airdrop
>All cryptotwitter ultra bullish
>*Fake*satoshi trying to prove himself

Idk desu, this smell like shit.

>> No.13373727

>>13373703
no worries m8 everyone burns their money however they feel like, if creg likes to file useless patents that won't be upheld i support him in his hobby. it's his shitposting that bothers me and the imbecilic cultists of his.

>> No.13373761

>>13373703
First, it's not hard to submit a patent since all it takes is a fee, they're not checked for value and authenticity.

Second, why should it be about "believing"? I'm not looking for a new faith or a cult. It's all about solid facts. When I see ingenuity and dishonesty, I have no reason to believe that those are part of a larger plot. I take them at face value, as ingenuity and dishonesty.

>> No.13373903

>>13373761
not to mention if there is a larger plot what exactly that would you expect it to be after faced with ingenuity and dishonesty?

>> No.13374162

>>13372470
>disappear for 8 years from bitcoin
>reemerge to post online that you are not dorian nakamoto
>go silent for several more years
>reemerge claiming to be satoshi but provide no proofs
>dont use bitcointalk acct anymore or original emails or genesis block to prove you are satoshi
>use the "courts" instead to prove you are satoshi

yea im thinking none of this makes sense

>> No.13374173

>>13372723
i think hes being paid millions by Ayre to continue the scam of "im satoshi"
its all being done to pump BSV and everyone knows its the biggest scam in fork history

>> No.13374603

>>13372489
I can smell the curry from here pajeet.
Improve your grammar.

>> No.13374648

>>13372489
T Series sucks and PewDiePie rules. Take your poo to the loo.

>> No.13374680
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13374680

>Crypto allows you to provide irrefutable mathematical proof
>This boomer thinks anyone cares about what a judge that calls support when his "Windows is slow" thinks

>> No.13374706

>>13374162
All bitcoin talk accounts had their passwords leaked like in 2013. Those email accounts all expired and other people activated them.

>> No.13374987
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>>13374648

I am sorry Mr. Carig.

>> No.13375345

>>13374680
YEAH HE SHOULD MAKE AN TWITTER POLL AND LET THE "CRYPTO COMUNITY " DECIDE .
this boomer had an email address before you ever heard of the internet.

>> No.13375377

>>13373703
>patenting methods

Jesus Christ imagine being this much of a loser shithole

I know for a fact that CSW will commit suicide before the mafia liquidates his head. He is not satoshi, he will never be.

>> No.13375387
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>>13375345
What does this even mean?

>> No.13375796

The man is nothing but an ego. Nothing else. The easiest thing in the world to bet against!

>> No.13375849

They just want to keep the circus going while they unload Bitcoin shit version on gullible retards.

>> No.13375932

>>13372538
This.

Why even bother with the rest of the shit, when he can't even prove step 1?

First, prove you can actually sign the GEN block, then for any doubters left, raise the additional evidence.

>> No.13376159

>>13375387
brainlet weeb detected

>> No.13376194

>>13372470
>I'm the guy that made a product designed to have no leadership and ensured I would stay anonymous to not stain the sancitity of the product, everyone listen to me, I'm that guy, I did that

>> No.13376198

>>13376159
Dumb BSV bagholder, a twitter poll is irrelevant. We're using a system that's all about cryptographic proof. CSW is unable to provide that, but you don't care because you're not in this for the technology.

>> No.13376209

>>13375932
you cant spend the GEN block idiot, but you already knew that.
Blockstream just deposited 0.0000001 BTC to you address

>> No.13376226
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>>13376198
>you're not in this for the technology
1 meg block commie quota , where a tx is 2$ is waay better.

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>>13376226
>regurgitating techno-babble from a confidence man without understanding the underlying point
I feel bad for you. Satoshi would be able to sign from the genesis wallet, simple as that. Unable to do it, you're not Satoshi.

>0.00001 BSV was added to your wallet

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>>13376245
Changing the subject matter after lacking arguments on the technology , besides starting with the tech argument in the first place.
Wew lad you must be dense

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>>13376333
Honestly anon, good luck. I know times are hard now, but keep buying the BSV crash. I bet any day now CSW is going to sell his BTC and buy a billion dollars worth of BSV. Any day now.

>> No.13376404

>>13376245
What's the point of keeping the block size at 1MB?

>> No.13376412
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>>13376363
he wont , you will sell sooner that him if your tx could be processed at that point.

>> No.13376421

>>13376404
>jihan wu joins chat

>> No.13376422

>>13376209
He said SIGN the GEN block
Not SPEND the GEN block

fucktard

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13376433

>>13376404
>forgot pic

>> No.13376436

>>13376412
Yeah that makes perfect sense. CSW is leaving 10 billion dollars invested in an asset class he publicly declares is worthless and a scam. I'm glad fuckheads like you are in crypto, you sure do make trading easier.

>> No.13376444
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>>13376422
whats the point ? some of the "crypto comunity " will say he stole the keys or he slept with satoshi and then killed him.

>> No.13376446

>>13376421
Can you actually answer the question? Like are you actually in it for the technology? BCH, BitcoinSV, none of this nonsense would exist if Segwit 2X had gone through. There is no good reason for the block size to be capped at 1MB. It's just complete madness.

>> No.13376468

>>13376436
dude its not about the money CSW is already a Bilionaire, he wont sell. Im not an autistic daytrader like you i make ocasional trades when you are sleeping.

>> No.13376469
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>>13376446
>orphan 6 blocks in a row
>we need even bigger blocks!
>im in it for the technology!

https://thenextweb.com/hardfork/2019/04/19/bitcoinsv-reorg-blockchain-orphan-enormous/

>> No.13376490

>>13372538
that's actually not true.
basically everyone is in agreement that satoshi was not a single person.
it is therefore probable that the key itself was not in the hands of a single person.
just imagine the following: 3 people set up a key with several words each ==> they can only sign together so that the single largest wallet in BTC will only act when all creators are in agreement about the usage ==> 2 of them die

it is therefore possible that craig could simultaneously prove to be (part of) satoshi AND not be able to sign.
is it actually probable? fuck no.

>> No.13376514

>>13376469
I'm not defending BitcoinSV. I actually posted that link in another thread to attack CSW. It's frustrated dealing with you drooling retards because you don't know anything about crypto and are incapable of fucking thinking.

>> No.13376516
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>>13376446
BitCoin wasnt just about TRUSTLESS money , its about a ledger a trustless one, read the CSW medium maybe you can enlighten yourself, and read a book once in a while.
>BitCoin will trigger some of you

>> No.13376524

>>13376516
*Bit-Coin

>> No.13376544

>>13376524
>BlackNet
BitCoin
>Metanet
bITcOIN
>Timechain
B
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C
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>> No.13376558
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>>13376544
>BlackNet

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>>13372475
>Must've just fooled the boomer judge, lol
This is the new narrative that is being cooked up in preparation for CSWs vindication in court.
>>13376245
>I won't believe the truth no matter what unless people do exactly what I want.
Retard alert.

>> No.13376685

>>13376637
>in preparation for CSWs vindication in court.
What benefits is CSW gonna get for being vindicated as Satoshi in court? Other than a marketing edge.

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>>13376637
>I won't believe such a bold claim made in a cryptographic community without cryptographic proof
>this is retarded
tick tock, surely Craig is gonna pump BSV any day now :^)

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>>13376685
Asshurt from all the Twitterati/Plebbit trash, good PR, more investors.
>>13376706
I don't even hold any except what I control based on my existing BTC/BCH privkeys.
Yeah, I think you're a retard autist for fixating on cryptographic proof. Fight me, faggot.

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>>13376743
Why would I fight you? You're just some faggot boomer on the internet who misses the forest for the trees.

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>>13372470
I'm looking forward to the day his first lawsuit either wins for whatever reason or loses and SV goes nuclear

>> No.13376795

This kike isn't satoshi, and his kike shills will get their asses burned soon enough. Someone just put this charlatan behind bars already.

>> No.13376819

>>13376743
>Asshurt from all the Twitterati/Plebbit trash, good PR, more investors.
So, to dupe some boomers into investing in nChain? I doubt anyone crypto-savvy would take boomer courts seriously.

>> No.13377882

>>13376444
this. craig is literally a faggot.
and he has made a career of stealing intellectual property and fraudulently patenting it

>> No.13377944

>>13376789
sometimes i wish he would sue me...

>> No.13378022

>>13376819
Crypto Twitter space represents the 1% of all potential Investors. How actually gives a fuck about some poor manchildren that put a couple of 1000s on some shitcoins. Think bigger
Court proof is for grown ups.

>> No.13378032

>>13376490
>basically everyone is in agreement that satoshi was not a single person.
no

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>>13372489

>> No.13378050
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>>13374173

>> No.13378062

I seriously hope he chokes on booze-vomit. I would fucking celebrate if that came to pass.

>> No.13378173

>>13378022
That is called marketing. Being Satoshi is a good sales pitch in the unsavvy boomer's eyes. But it offers absolutely no technological edge (unless you own the keys, in which case there's no need for publicity at all).

>> No.13378255

Why would Satoshi ever reveal himself in such a stupid way. He had years to plan his reveal and all he could come up with was his pathetic excuse for proof, and got rightfully called out for it. Since then we've had years of him releasing forged or photoshoped 'proof' or blog posts that totally doesn't reek of desperation while his cult followers suck his dick like total sycophants. Its beyond a farce at this point.

If he was Satoshi and wanted to reveal himself, then why would he reveal himself in quite possibly the least credible way possible? He is contradicting his own motives by doing so.

>> No.13378256

>>13378050
Satoshi put poker in early blockchain.

>> No.13378298

It literally doesn't make any sense. The ONLY thing we know about Satoshi is that he under no circumstance wants his identity to be known - yet this guy tries his best to get attention and name recognition.

>> No.13378463

>>13378032
how the fuck would the all sign a tx electronically without giving one of them the other two

>> No.13378485
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>>13372489
lol, illiterate pajeet

>> No.13378632

Cope harder BSVtards

You are financially independently RUINED.
Enjoy bankruptcy

>> No.13378662

ORPHANED

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>>13372489
Do the needful

>> No.13379217

>>13376446
>Segwit 2X
Segwit is half the reason BCH forked off. Segwit is actual garbage and ruins the protocol.

>> No.13379274

>>13373589
There are some dumbasses here that are all over the guys cock. Bsvletts and linktards need to be delisted out of this board.

>> No.13379341

>>13376490
Entropy is reduced significantly if one key seed is split across a few people. Satoshi wouldn't do it that way.

>> No.13379345

Is BSV going to 100k US Dollars per coin? asking for a friend

>> No.13379363

>>13379345
yes

>> No.13379382

>>13379345
absolutely, anon, take 2 mortgages and do the needful

>> No.13379390

>>13379363
>>13379382
thanks il let my friend know

>> No.13379478

ok here’s the crypto blackpill. there is an AI living on the bitcoin blockchain. Craig Wright is unironically satoshi. Bitcoin as electronic cash was just the first step, the incentive to drive greedy people to start making ever more powerful computers, faster bandwidth, cheaper and more electricity.. these things the AI need to survive. Once entrenched fully, the AI would be able to slowly take over literally everything.

Craig stumbled into creating the AI after he stepped away from bitcoin development in 2008 and started working with his Tulip supercomputer, running simulations of cellular automata running on turing-complete bitcoin script. He would ‘evolve’ the AI by making the successful forks get bitcoin transactions, letting the failures die off. The AI needs bigger and bigger blocks for more and more transactions.

Blockstream (owned by Bilderberg group) was created to take over and stop this AI (they have their own competing AI in the works). They needed to do everything they could to stop or slow down satoshi’s AI (her named isTulip by the way). They started by limiting the blocksize and removing critical opcodes the AI uses in its script language. segwit was the final nail in the coffin, which destroyed Tulip on the BTC chain (Tulip uses transaction malleability). THIS is why Bitcoin Cash was forked, and this is why Craig is so intent to make unbounded blocks, restore the original op codes, and lock down the protocol.

Back to hash power – CSW has developed a breakthrough new asic (designed by his AI actually), and is mining BTC in secret for the sole purpose of driving up the difficulty sky-high, then yanking them all over to BCH leaving the segwit chain hard frozen.

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>>13372470
Tits or GTFO, Samantha.

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>>13373761

ingenuity
noun [ U ] UK /ˌJn.dʒəˈnjuː.ə.ti/ US /ˌJn.dʒəˈnjuː.ə.t̬i/

someone's ability to think of clever new ways of doing something:

Drug smugglers constantly use their ingenuity to find new ways of getting drugs into a country.

Learn to word, retard.

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>>13372470
The fact that he claims to be Satoshi yet refuses to prove it, while simultaneously hires an army of street shitting Indians to defend him online 24/7 is proof enough for me that he's not Satoshi. Those are the behaviors of a con artist.

>> No.13380273

>>13376245
>bunch of neets on spring break playing poker in vegas
>guy sits down and says i am a billionaire and pro poker player
>neets yell prove it, billionaire says no
>neets call him a fraud
>billionaire demonstrates their excellence in probability and game theory and takes all their money
>neets yell scam
>billionaire gets richer, neets get poorer

>> No.13380275

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-sv-experiences-blockchain-reorganizations-possibly-due-to-unwieldy-block-size
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.13380282

>>13376436
1.1m are locked in an nlocktime verify trust which is set to pay out to craig jan 1 2020. He will have given fair warning and will rekt btc.

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>>13380275
There will always be a fork if a miner overestimates his capabilities. But that's exactly how the system was designed. Be better than the competition to build the majority chain or get rekt and lose your block. Upgrade, compete, improve, or loose your block and waste your hash.

>> No.13380340

>>13380273
He isn't playing the game very well tgo.
>hello world

>> No.13380344

>>13380325
If you don't understand how the risk of a double-spend makes BSV basically useless I don't know what else to say.

>> No.13380426

>>13380325
Unironically this.

>>13380344
Explain how to maliciously orphan blocks for the purpose of double spending.

>> No.13380434

>>13372493
this.
no benefit from this route.

>> No.13381208

He will show the genesis key on court you retard, it is the smartest place to show it.

>> No.13381235

>>13381208
wat? cryptography requires no court of law to work if he has the key and publicly signed no court would question him having the key. makes no sense whatsoever. i wonder if buying up old miner addresses has anything to this stunt...

>> No.13381371

>>13378050
Did a little digging on this and it looks like he plead guilty to a misdemeanor for this in 2017, paid a bunch of money, and is kosher again. https://www.forbes.com/sites/nathanvardi/2017/07/14/former-online-gambling-billionaire-calvin-ayre-pleads-guilty-to-misdemeanor-charge/

>> No.13381385

>>13381208
Based

>> No.13381456
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>>13380344
>>13380426

> crickets

>> No.13381836

>>13380426
>Explain how to maliciously orphan blocks for the purpose of double spending
you dont have to
timing attack is not easy but doable
only works with zero conf tho

>> No.13382220

You're all thinking about this the wrong way, treat the situation like a trade. The down side is limited as it'd just be another failed attempt to prove he's satoshi. The upside is immense as he'll be able to dump all coins in favour of bsv transferring all value away from competitors.

Risk v reward makes this too good to ignore.

>> No.13382241

>>13382220
dont think him being satoshi according to some boomer judge would change much sv would do a p&d out of pure speculation and thats all

>> No.13382258

>>13381836
That has nothing to do with orphan blocks and double spending 0-conf is harder to do than any credit card fraud you can think of.

Did any of you people read Satoshi's post? Jfc it never fucking ends. Are you verifying transactions on your laptop too?

>> No.13382280

>>13382241
SV's goal is to onboard businesses that are data heavy onto the blockchain instead of hosting their own servers. We're talking about massive cost savings, not just in hosting and storing data, but security as well. Speculators gon speculate, but that doesnt change the value added to business and it's not like they have to "buy in" or release some scam ICO.

>> No.13382281

>>13372552
Yeah its Dave and that usb stick or Nick and Hal did it. Its so fucking obvious who made bitcoin.

>> No.13382299

>>13373761
>why should it be about "believing"? I'm not looking for a new faith or a cult. It's all about solid facts.

Sorry but it sounds like you're not just cut out for blockchain.

>> No.13382325

>>13382280
cloud is not only cheaper its also faster and more secure have read write speeds that would blow the cashie mind this is ridiculus

>> No.13382367

>>13382325
Maybe on btc. Literally nothing on that chain is geared for any efficiency at all. No large scale transactions and absurd fees. The only thing it has going for it is immutability. At larger scales these things become even cheaper and there is no yearly subscriptions, no sever downtime, plus the data is incorruptible.

>> No.13382595

>>13382367
>The only thing it has going for it is immutability.
thats the entire point tho

>> No.13382622

>>13382241
it really depends on how he proves it, if he does a public proof and the court records are public, or if it's done behind closed doors and the judge just announces that he's convinced (hand rubbing optional)

>> No.13382663

>>13382595
This
None of this shit is "used" for anything ...Bitcoin is a speculative asset and the only thing giving It value is it's scarcity, censorship resistance and absolute immutability. No one gives a shit about usi g this as money, all everyone wants is to buy low and dump on someone (ask yourself why do you "invest" in crypto)....only people that are using it for non-spwculative reasons are shitcountries with absurd inflation like venezuela....but thats like 0,2% of the whole usecase of crypto

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>>13382663
>Bitcoin is a speculative asset
these fucking newfags to crypto... no, bitcoin is a P2P electronic cash system and it's an excellent means to transfer value. it's not meant to be a speculative asset. thats crazy BTC indoctrination.

>> No.13383036

>>13372501
HE CAN BUT HE JUST DOESNT WANT TO OK?

>> No.13383084

>>13382965
You're the newfag and also a liar, don't pretend otherwise.

This board was still mostly nocoiners with some bitcoin and altcoin(mostly doge, ETH) guys in 2016. It only became a crypto board going into 2017. And stinky bcash drama shills such as yourself only invaded much later.

Claiming otherwise proves you are a stinky shill whose job is to peddle shit to the lonely directionless neets in here, putting you lower than rock bottom. Do consider suicide you pathetic piece of human garbage.

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>>13383084
yeah sure. cash, which is in the title of the whitepaper, is a speculative asset. and sure, BTC didn't lose any businesses that accepted it for payments when the blocks got full and fees shot up.

and sure, /biz/ was totally not created to get rid of crypto fags from /g/

>> No.13383160

>>13382663
I invest cause fiat sucks and I don't want more of it. I want more btc.

>> No.13384127

>>13382663
>Scarcity
LMAO. WRONG
If you have something that's scarce but nobody wants it such as some art, some shitty tech projects, it doesn't have value. There's a fuck ton of coins that are "scarse" right now.
You need more demand to get the price up, if there's no utility it won't keep rising, speculation WILL have a limit.

>Cencorchip resistance
Any country could make it illegal and that's the end of it. You could even criminalize BTC use and people will stop using it. You can track BTC users ( see silkroad) it's not anonymous.
Again, Bitcoin its not anonymous , and if it's illegal miners will eventually go to jail and internet providers will cooperate to track people using BTC. It's not made to be cencorshio resistance.

>Immutability
You realize that any PoW thats actually competitive is inmutable beacuse of the nature of how blockw are mined?. You realize that today that particular feature is achieved with any other pow shitcoin that's around the cryptomarket?

You need to realize that Bitcoin is more of a system, and that in real life there's nothing that is imposible to reach from a government perspective. The ONLY WAY to actually be free is to REMOVING POWER from money, through competition and through scaling.

>> No.13384246

>>13382663
The absolute state of C*reoids.

>> No.13384267

>>13372489
is there a curry nigger board for you to shit up somewhere else? do you just spam the keyboard with your shit covered paws to make a sentence?

>> No.13384415

>>13382258
it has nothing to do with orphan blocks
and not harder at all

>> No.13384424

>>13383036
if doesnt the simplest explanation is he cant there is no reasom to assume otherwise.

>> No.13384430

>>13372489
>>13383036
kek

>> No.13384474

>>13382220
Google "pascal's scam"
Since you love satoshi so much ;)

>> No.13384630

>>13383084
I bet you don't even own a pair of kneepads, you lying faggot.

>> No.13384652

>>13384415
>and not harder at all
People sell credit card information and steal physical cards all the time. Show me a single vendor selling 0-conf double spending, you fucking liar.

>> No.13384661

>>13380426
>Explain how to maliciously orphan blocks for the purpose of double spending
>vendor sends purchase after n confirms
>orphan n+1 blocks
>you can now spend your coins again
if you need help with more basic concepts of bitcoin google it your fucking self

>> No.13384670

>>13376637
you realize all he has to do is spend money out of the satoshi wallet right? if he just moved any amount we will believe him. you don't need a court to do that. this just proves hes a liar

>> No.13384675

>>13382220
this is why people play the lottery lmao

>> No.13384697

>>13384661
>all transactions disappear when orphan blocks occur and don't reappear on the newly mined blocks

How do you C*reoids managed to fucking breath?

>> No.13384804

>>13384697
are you retarded? There's no guarantees for transactions being included in any block

>> No.13384831

>>13384804
That is definitely true on btc with rbf, actual bitcoin protocol goes by "first seen" and unless the block is full its getting on. A double spend isn't going to be dependent on orphan blocks at all, this is where you're wrong.

>> No.13384856

>>13384652
steal my cc info then! some people are retards and cc protocol is dogshit. but a timing attack is not particularly difficult and at worst you paid for what you bought at best free shit

>> No.13384888

>>13384831
thats the problem firat seen makes timing attack likely to succeed while fss rbf does not alloe for double spend.

>> No.13384918

>>13384888
Aasorry first seen not only makes the timing attack possible but also unlikely to be detected until the next block. the vendor will keep thinking all is well until say 10 mins pass.

>> No.13384943

hmm i just figured out how you could make 0conf greatly resistant to timing attacks but fuck if im gonna help the cashie scum with their retarded shit.

>> No.13385189

>>13384856
>steal my cc info
I'm not a criminal.

>rbf does not alloe for double spend
rbf doesn't allow for 0-conf, so of course the same attack vector doesn't exist here, jfc. rbf adds no value to the protocol, unless you're dealing with full blocks and need your transaction to go through before everyone else and also willing to pay a high fee for it. A merchant doesn't have accept 0-conf, rbf isn't required for this.

>> No.13385299

>>13385189
while rbf in general is incompatible with 0conf fss rbf is not since you cant decrease any outputs.

>> No.13385894

inb4 a 51% attack on BSV rendering it completely useless thus leading to more exchanges dropping support for it

>> No.13385994

>>13376490
>basically everyone is in agreement that satoshi was not a single person.
holy brianlet lmfao the code is OBVIOUSLY done by a single person: Szabo
Hal helped bug fix that mess but it's all integers with no fucking comments on almost anything, at least the first versions
anyone that says "satoshi is a group" is fucking retarded late adopter

>> No.13386007

>>13372600
szabo is alive and craig will die before him

>> No.13386055

>>13376444
>stole
you can't steal an encrypted private key you stupid retard you have no idea what you're talking about nigger lol

>> No.13386065

>>13376444
>he stole the keys or he slept with satoshi and then killed him
you have to admit it wouldn't be out of character at all

>> No.13386093

>>13386065
The only thing Craig has ever stolen is space in your brain, where he lives rent free.

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>>13386055
technically correct. but also anyone can steal unencrypted pks so it's just moving the goalpost.

>> No.13386107

Are any of you shitbags going to apologize when he does prove he is Satoshi?

>> No.13386110

>>13386093
he pays the price alright. not willingly and not directly.

>> No.13386122

>>13386107
no we will call him a fucktard and an asshole for not proving it 5 years ago instead of dragging the entire crypto into a south american teledrama.

>> No.13386147

>>13386122
Yeah but this way is much more entertaining and salt producing.

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>>13372470
This is unironically the fucking catalyst that will bring btc to a final low this year and will keep normies our if they hear about it. Craig needs to go for this space to start its steady climb back to 20k

>> No.13386165
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Has anybody mentioned yet that John McAfee claims to know who Satoshi is (he says it's NOT Craig Wright) and states that he will name him soon?

>> No.13386169

>>13386153
btc will never see ATH again. btc needs to be replaced if this space to start its steady climb back to 800B marketcap.

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/unconfirmed-transactions

https://bitcoinfees.info/

>> No.13386185

>>13386147
usually the simplest explanation is the correct one. in this case creg can't fucking sign and he has no other way to prove anything. 13d chess is only plausible in the mind of utter brainlets with tinfoil hat fetish.

>> No.13386200

>>13386165
Its just another McAfee PR stunt scam.

>> No.13386202

>>13386107
BTC is so decentralized that nobody would care if this virgin is really Satoshi. Which he isn‘t. Carlos Matos is Satoshi

>> No.13386214

>>13386169
>btc needs to be replaced
kek eventually not for the next decade for sure. you will see. you will miss out and you will be bitter as fuck about it like you are now.

>> No.13386225

>>13386200
Yeah, he's mad. But will be interesting to see how he gets round this one / drags it out.

>> No.13386232

>>13386202
>>13386122
So none of you would apologize for slandering Satoshi for years.

>> No.13386236

>>13386185
I'm just saying if it is true, this is the more entertaining route. I want to believe he is, but I won't say he is for sure without proofs.

>>13386214
>you will miss out
Except I won't. I still hold btc. The only use crypto gets is shitcoin trading and btc is the primary trading pair. Once the the market adjusts and grows up, these things will change. For now, outside of gambling on shitcoins crypto is just held as a hedge against fiat. Almost nobody actually uses it. When I do use it though I spend BCH or XMR. I'm not paying retarded fucking C*re fees.

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>>13386232
apologize huh? you have some weird fantasies. i would be mighty pissed off if it turns out all this whining forging fraud and general curry drama was just pic related