/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>13328917
No one's actually buying this.

>>13328927
Elaborate

>>13328917
nice artificial fud pajeet

>>13328917
post a screenshot that proves pajeet involvement, otherwise i assume this is low effort FUD. protip: pajeets left after the bull run, only newfags fall for the currynigger FUD

also expecting 3rd party dev excitement 2 months before mainnet really reveals your brainlet IQ

>>13328929
Go look up the Fantom dev team, it's literally a bunch of koreans, 80% of their LinkedIn accounts don't mention Fantom at all, and those that do are dropouts or hired by multiple corporations at once. One of the people listed as one of the heads of the project listed himself as working for a completely different company as of Jan. 2019, if you look at the history there was a large amount of traffic back at ICO and after ICO it was dead silent until recently.

If I were to take a guess it's a korean PND and they're trying to offload their bags, shilling with proxies everywhere they can. Look at the way they talk about it, none of them discuss the actual problems it solves the people talking about it only ever say shit like "LOLOLO MY BAGS GONNA 10X DONT MISS OUT GOY!!!"

>>13328929
If you don't see this as a glaring pnd you're new. I have seen this exact cycle with like 15 other coins. Please, keep holding your bag though. The Fantomarines threads will start soon. Then you'll start saying how it's a long term hold, then tell yourself it'll be a few years and quote Warren Buffet about patience. You are not special, you did not pick a winning lottery ticket like everyone before you thought about their own token that would 100x in time. You will develop sunk cost fallacy and dig your heels in, because anything is better than accepting the loss, even eternal hope.

eth got so many followers because it was the first smart contract platform... when they realize eth can't scale they will move to new projects like fantom that solve scaling problem. it will take time. eth took years to become a multi-billion dollar crypto.

>>13328957
>also expecting 3rd party dev excitement 2 months before mainnet really reveals your brainlet IQ
this

>>13328961
>If you don't see this as a glaring pnd you're new. I have seen this exact cycle with like 15 other coins. Please, keep holding your bag though. The Fantomarines threads will start soon. Then you'll start saying how it's a long term hold, then tell yourself it'll be a few years and quote Warren Buffet about patience. You are not special, you did not pick a winning lottery ticket like everyone before you thought about their own token that would 100x in time. You will develop sunk cost fallacy and dig your heels in, because anything is better than accepting the loss, even eternal hope.
not true at all. fantom team are transparent and are not selling any of their tokens. they have enough money they raised from ico to fund themselves for 2 years

>>13328961
this reads like pasta and is just rambling, zero facts just opinion. really reminds me of ETH and HOT in their early days.

>>13329002
You are holding a worthless erc20 token smart city scam being run by a few chinks.

>>13328917
the better i get at coding the more i realise that 'code reviewing' is complete bullshit and andre is full of shit. he could say llterally anything and the retard nocoders would accept it or think it was insightful

the fact fantom hired him is a red flag in fact

>>13328917
Programmer here. Nope.

The integer stacks are wobly on all sides and I ran some errands on the JSON parser mainframe and it was easily bypassed within mere minutes. And don't even get me started on the unsalted ico development kits floating around... it's horrendous to say the least. They need to start working on flow brief stacks within the coming month to prevent a nutcrack bruteforced by unsavy code like the fantom api boolean bracket that is integrated within the classpath (leading to the system interface algorithm).

TL;DR
It's not good.

>>13328957
>>13328978
https://icobench.com/ico/fantom/team
List of team members with links to social media accounts and ICO prices. Even if this was a legitimate project would YOU invest money into a program where a majority of the developers and people involved are so un-enthused about working on Fantom they won't even bother updating the profile to display their involvement?

This is the Chief INFORMATION Officer's profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/issac-lee/.. Should tell you everything you need to know.

>>13328936
For fuck sake, no.
I do have about $10K in Fantom, but my worry is real and I will dump it if it turns out programmers don't give a shit about it.

If it's mainly going to be a circle jerk on 4chan without anyone building something useful I'll dump it.

>>13329061
What is hilarious to me is how some people on this board will read this and won't be able to tell if it's legit fud or not. You don't even need to know much about programming to figure that out

>>13328961
>Then you'll start saying how it's a long term hold
>>13328968
>it will take time. eth took years to become a multi-billion dollar crypto.
That was quick

>>13328957
Ethereum had 3rd partu dev excitement pretty much from the start, but yeah I see your point.
You're hostility tells me you're insecure of your investment.

See my latest post, I honestly do hold about $10K worth of Fantom, it's not that much money for me so I don't have to run pajeet strategies and be hostile when bringing up legitimate IMPORTANT weakness compared to other projects which have succeeded in the past.

Excitement from programmers is necessarily, otherwise it will all be mental masturbation and low IQ 4chan:ers looking at charts, hoping to escape their sad reality.

>>13329061
LMAO i'm a dev with 15 years experience and nothing of this makes any sense whatsoever. nice FUD attempt though

>>13329123
(Yeah I know I did some retarded spelling errors, sorry for that, It's late and I'm intoxicated.)
But if you're going to refute, at least go at my points and avoid any ad hominem.

>>13329139
in any case I believe you when you say you're a software dev

>>13329068
no one cares if you dump 10k worth of FTM.

>>13329123
excitement takes time, because adoption is an organic, social process. it takes usually one year for devs to get involved. at the beginning it's slower and with increasing word of mouth dev mindshare increases exponentially. have seen this many times. and no i am not hostile or insecure about my bag, i bought 1.5 million at $0.0065 good luck dumping on me fren.

>>13329172
>excitement takes time, because adoption is an organic, social process.

That sounds like hopium to me.
Yeah, I know no one cares if I dump my bags or not.
Just sick of the pajeet shilling threads, to have a successful project you want as many technical people as possible to get in EARLY in the project.

Not a bunch of low-IQ gamblers on 4chan, that's retarded. You want productive people to be the owners when the valuation is low.

If hopium and shilling is your style, keep up with it. That ain't for me.

>>13329238
to put things into perspective.... i was there the day the holochain-rust repo was created almost a year ago and I followed the development process very closely. in the beginning things took more time but today we are at over 500 github stars (if that is a metric we wanna take as a proxy for dev excitement / involvement) + many new FOSS devs have joined over time. open source communities aren't created overnight. believe it or not. i don't know how this is hopium, it's just a fact.

the thing is: there is nothing we can say that will change your OPINION if you think it will fail to attract devs. that's the issue with that "concerned" type of FUD... we need facts that we can discuss, not opinions.

i have $90k invested in crypto right now and still shill my bags from time to time. i also FUD my own investments all the time, just for fun. i bought FTM as a hedge in case my other investments fail.

>>13329238
>>excitement takes time, because adoption is an organic, social process.
>That sounds like hopium to me.
>Yeah, I know no one cares if I dump my bags or not.
>Just sick of the pajeet shilling threads, to have a successful project you want as many technical people as possible to get in EARLY in the project.
>Not a bunch of low-IQ gamblers on 4chan, that's retarded. You want productive people to be the owners when the valuation is low.
>If hopium and shilling is your style, keep up with it. That ain't for me.
sell your fantom then kill yourself

>>13329287
Do you think it's good that people talk about 10x on 4chan while the technical people on cryptotwitter hasn't given this a glance?

Do you think it's good that low-IQ gamblers can push up the valuation to the point where it will deter technical people due to it looking like a bubble shilled by pajeets?`

Call it an opinion if you want.
But when Ethereum got going, looking into what type of people were excited about it the technical person/low-IQ shiller ratio looked MUCH better for Ethereum.
Sure, we're in different times now, post 2017 bubble... But still, these are facts.

I have about $25 - 30k in crypto right now, I'll 4x that if the market cap goes down 60 - 70 %, it still looks pretty irrational to me and there's a bunch of uncertainties like Tether and Mt.Gox funds getting dumped.

>>13329061
fucking this

I checked their github code for 5 minutes and immediately saw that the JSON parser was amateur insecure trash.I didn't check the integer stacks but the way they call their variables and use them way later their call stack must be fucking fried any time anyone wants to use the chain. One RPC call and the whole thing will practically explode. I dived into their protocol buffers and its all complete nonsense and dogshit. I'm not surprised by the shit I'm surprised by how volumous the shit is. The code is truly a mess

>>13329330
Wow, so impressive.

>>13329364
>on 4chan
leave your echo chamber ffs. people are hyped up about FTM everywhere - why do you act like this is the tradeogre pnd shitcoin of the week??? 4chan was just kinda early, but people are shilling it everywhere by now. andre cronje has reviewed more crypto projects than anyone else and he apparently thought it was good enough to attach his name to the project. andre cronje is based af - he pretty much hates most cryptos except for HOT and FTM.

>Do you think it's good that low-IQ gamblers can push up the valuation to the point where it will deter technical people due to it looking like a bubble shilled by pajeets?
i don't get your logic. it's obviously no pnd, otherwise it would have dumped much harder by now. pump and dumps happen in a matter of days, FTM has been pumping for weeks without significant retracements. support is pretty strong imo. the recent dump was due to BTC movements anyways (and most alts got hit a lot worse than FTM desu).

>But when Ethereum got going, looking into what type of people were excited about it the technical person/low-IQ shiller ratio looked MUCH better for Ethereum.
ETH was a totally different thing. Smart-contracts were new. Not really surprising that most of the talk would be about the tech itself. Nowadays, the talk is usually about how a project will eliminate the tech bottlenecks / scaling issues of ETH. This is also what we see with the TPS discussion around FTM.

>>13329368
LMAO. Andre Cronje the lead dev is a code autist who finished a 3-year CS degree in 5 months + has 15+ years of dev experience + has reviewed 30+ crypto projects. I am sure he can write secure code.

ITS ALL IRRELEVANT THE HYPE WILL PUMP UP THE PRICE WHO CARES ABOUT TECHNICALS

>>13329139
Because it's a joke, it's not supposed to make sense, just random technical words which are enough to convince naive anons apparently,

t. software dev

>>13328917

There's surprisingly few programmers in crypto in general. Out of the people I know only I'm into crypto and 5 of them are engineers/computer scientists and one is an economics major. I don't know why but none of them seem interested in crypto at all, I guess they still see it as something people use to buy drugs with and that's it. But you're probably right, most of the programmers/tech people are into ETH.

>>13329609
You seem well reasoned anon, genuinely curious what your portfolio looks like, not asking for specific amounts or even percentages, just project names to look into if you'd be so kind to share

>>13329061

dev here. you're absolutely full of shit

>>13329609
>people are hyped up about FTM everywhere
this. biz was the last place to find out about fantom. i was the first anon to tell you retards about it. twitter was all over ftm before this shithole pajeet website

>>13329666
checked. i am in a good mood today, so why not fren. my biggest holds are bitcoin, ethereum, holochain and fantom. definitely look into holochain if you haven't, the tech is brilliant and mainnet should launch fairly soon. besides that i am also closely following the developments around dfinity, urbit, polkadot and cardano.

>>13329609
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>>13329874
Thanks for answering anon, I'm also in holo, I like the tech and the team has been very active. Other one you mentioned that is interesting to me is urbit, thinking about getting a star, we'll see. Anyway, thanks for sharing

>>13330001
Check out IOST and Numeraire.
Karma is another one which could be a moonshot if successful.

I have a pretty diversified portfolio with my biggest holdings in Ethereum and EOS.
Other than those my biggest holdings are in the currencies I just mentioned.
Then I have about 15 currencies more with smaller holdings, partly due to unfavorable valuations (interesting tech, but valuations looks pretty irrational).

Is 296k enough to make it anons please I need to buy a house for my very white family far away from the browning that has occured in my local small town america

>>13330237

youll need 297k to make it

>>13330237
All Fantom marines will make it. The most beautiful moon mission in crypto history

THESE FUCKING GOOKS USED THEIR ICO FUNDS TO BUY FANTOM AT THE BOTTOM... AND PAID SHILLS ON TWITTER + WASHTRADING BOTS TO PUMP THE PRICE. THEN THESE FUCKING GOOKS DUMPED IT ALL AT ATH. TURNED OFF WASH TRADING BOT. SHILLS ALL STOPPED. THEY LEFT IT TO FREE FALL BACK TO 4M MARKETCAP TO REBUY TO DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN.

THESE FUCKING DISGUSTING GOOK CREATURES SCAMMED ICO INVESTORS TOO. THEY ONLY LET FRIENDS AND FAMILY INTO THE ICO. AND THE SCAMMER DEV EMAILED THE 100K PEOPLE WHO APPLIED WITH A SCAM EMAIL. FUCKING CRIMINAL GOOK BASTARDS

I DUMPED MY 4 MILLION FTM. NEVER TRUST GOOKS. FUCKING SCAMMING BASTARDS,.,.,.,.

>>13331778
>>13331778

kek. Paid FUD

>>13331838
>kek. Paid FUD
fuck sake. why didnt i sell ath. i could have had double what i have now. FUCK