/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>13305546
cope
sage

>>13305546
maybe they know the history of taxation and how that will inevitably spill over onto the middle class.

>>13305574
>the history of taxation
as in "historically the wealthiest few were heavily taxed before it occurred to tax the masses" ?

>>13305546
pretty much

>>13305596
In some European countries, the rich weren't taxed at all. Only the poor and middle classes were.

It's what they want us to return to.

>>13305574
Thats a lie though

>>13305596
or maybe how a luxury tax in australia turned into a tax on all imported electronics. rich people know how to avoid them. they will just spill over onto the middle class.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWggLhkQVW4

>>13305612
Then design the taxes better

>>13305546
That's ridiculous everyone knows trickle down taxation doesn't work.

>>13305612
god you mind is a mess
taxes on goods/consumption are always supported more heavily by lower incomes, given that they consume a higher share of their income. a tax on luxury good falls under this category, and not "high income only tax because they're luxury goods" you fucking mong

income tax isn't something with a history of being tested on high incomes befre being spread out, if anything, it's the opposite,

you should open some books and get other sources than your uncle's facebook posts

It's like want all the rich people to leave, taking their money which is like 80% of all the money in the country with them.

>>13305546
What if we dont tax overtime on hourly jobs

>>13305857
>taking their money with them
It was never going to end up in your hands anon

>let's take money from productive people and give it to niggers and single moms
Why do leftys love niggers and single moms so much? hmmm, is it perhaps they ARE them?

>>13305546
>middle class
>50k a year
Lmao

>>13305885
It's called capital flight. It collapses the economy.

>>13305892
This we should also audit the federal government

>>13305612
This >>13305624 is a way simpler solution, moron.

>>13305546
If you tax them more they have less money to spend on investment in their business and their income goes down and they're paying the same amount they did because but now they have less money.

>>13305923
Yes let's get behind our gov representatives and make them make fair laws. Lol. How old are you? The only thing the gov is efficient at is taxing and collecting their shekels.

>>13305892
>let's take money from productive people and give it to amazon

Fixed that for you wagecuck

>>13305939
>he thinks personal weath goes back into business
That's why we lowered business tax so the business can re invest

Being Ceo doesn't mean they own it all

>>13305967
80% of our taxes go to Welfare queens, Milcucks, niggers and single moms. Feel free to look at the federal budget yourself. Try not to hurt your negroid brain with that pie graph

>>13305907
Maybe that's the reason why politicians are doing everything they can to assist big business even if it's messing up the country like mass immigration

>>13305976
You forgot old boomers too

>>13306000
Pretty much
You become truly NEETpilled when you realize the entire federal government is an agency which sucks money out of White wagecucks and gives them to Ethnics, boomers and single moms

>>13305546
That how they introduced the sales tax. Just a small tax on the rich then they burneded everyone.

>>13305546
How many people are there that make over 10 million?
Furthermore, how will an increase tax burden on these people influence their action i.e. people migrate to Costa Rica, because it is practically tax-free.
I don't think you can squeeze a meaningful amount of extra-money out this way.. So why would we do it? what would the purpose be of this tax-hike?
It is about the infantile perception of equality, the old saying from the Soviet Union - "Neighbours goat must also die", meaning if you have a goat and it falls ill and die, your neighbours goat should also die so you can be equal again.

That is the essence of proposals like these.. That there are people "without a goat" that find this ludicrous and don't want to participate in the nonsense, despite having no immediate prospect of material-gains from their beliefs, speaks volume of their integrity and decency.

>>13305977
I fuckin love this board

>>13305546
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/01/business/one-top-taxpayer-moved-and-new-jersey-shuddered.html

XDDDDDDDDDD

>KKK: let's kill niggers
>White middle-class liberals: REEEEEEEEE

>>13306036
>"Neighbours goat must also die"

Good post anon.

>>13305546
Yeah well you gotta understand them. They hold that retarded belief that each and every one of them can make it big. Even the poorest ones. And they sure as hell dont wanna be overtaxed when they finally make it. It's called lotto capitalism for a reason

>>13305546
wellll
https://youtu.be/Y8vkoBkWcEo

>>13306196
Isnt he supposed to be smart?
>Hurr durr in our great country everyone can make it. You only gotta work hard. You can come from nothing to the highest top.

Ok buddy, it you say so. OP's pic is perfect.

>>13306231
>>13306231
This guy gets it. Why not tax 100% on everything above $50k.

>>13306263
You should certainly be excused due to your mental disability.

Tax the rich. Or are you still waiting for ali that wealth to start trickling down? If it was going to do that, they wouldnt be getting richer every year,retard

>>13306282
>wealth to start trickling down?

How does the economy and wealth work in your mind?

>>13306310
Some guy having a big number attached to his name does not affect my life in any way.

>>13306323
Ah yes, because wealth doesn't mean power in our world

>>13306310
Thats the main argument for low taxes for the rich.
So you think average Joe should give proportionally equal taxes as a billionaire. The latter wont even feel the effect. Why do you think the french lost their shit because of the fuel prices? To the rich, fuel cost means nothing, for the poor ones it represents a significant sum. Same goes for taxes

Stealing is wrong. Taxes are theft. Thus taxes are wrong.

Taxes are theft because they are not based on free choice. You cant say no to them.

Flat tax rate for all!

>>13306483
flat tax rate of 95% ! Lets do this !

>>13305610
What precedent have leftists set? They always raise property taxes, create additional sales and meal taxes, tax utilities, set up tolls on highways. They constantly ban shit like guns and cigarettes and gambling or add faggy moral taxes ontop of them. You're such a fucking lying pig

>>13306360
The answer to power hungry degenerates isn't more government.

Taxing income is a way to penalise basically everyone but the rich

The rich don't have high incomes they have high wealth

>>13306517
punch the nazi !

>>13306517
This, tax should be flat and wealth based.

>>13306527
>>13306527
Maybe the government needs to be efficient.

why are you faggots against taxing the jews? almost everyone who makes over 10m is a kike

The bankers the bonuses ITS DISGUSTING

>>13306545
Government is inherently inefficient

>>13306551
Are you a helpless baby?
You are responsible for your own life. Not the jews or the rich.

At the height of its power, the Roman empire had like a 5% flat tax rate at max.
Socialism is a symptom of the end of an empire.

>>13306604
But the Roman empire sized and redistributed land to the poor. Ceasar was apart of the reformers that did this

>>13306649
Caesar was a socialist cunt, Cato and Cicero were always the real heroes of the Republic

>>13306795

You fucking idiot. The optimates had been employing the roman equivalent of unchecked illegal immigration (replacing freedmen with an ever increasing number of slaves in middle class / trade jobs / farm work) which put pretty much every middle class / lower class farmer out of business so they could buy the land up cheap: relating the lower upper, middle, and lower classes to landless city dwellers forced to work for low wages. That's not the behavior of a hero. The Republic WAS the better roman era, but the so called "betters" were more akin to today's modern neoliberals than Caesar ever could have dreamed of being. Caesar was like Huey Long, and unsurprisingly, Long died like Caesar.

>>13306036
>"speaks volume"
you sound like stupid faggot

>>13306795
The empire was always better

>>13306581
Is the poor baby losing a rigged game? Get fucked Slimeberg.

that's why we need yang, fuck these rich assholes who evade taxes and responsibility.

taxes are easy to avoid for the ultra rich, leading to a concentration of power into their hands, free from competition from the merely wealthy
billionaire monopolies are bad whether you make 10MM or 50k. it's not a hard concept to get if you're not a brainlet

>>13307504
>the most cunning of murderers will still murder
>therefore murder shouldn't be penalized

>>13305546
my millionare boss would lay me off if that happened and outsource to asia

The average tax payer in the US reported $130k in income, skewed by the rich. Love the morons who think $50k is "middle class."

People don't realize just how rich the rich are these days. If you work a full time time job literally 50% of the work you do every day, a good 4+ hours probably, is solely dedicated to maintaining the incredible lifestyle of the top 0.1%.

The rich profit disproportionately not just to government infrastructure, subsidies, but from extorting the employees of the companies they own, most of them locked into wage slavery working 50%+ of their waking life working for the company.

Its incredible many poor people, I define poor by making below average wage ($130k/year), are not only OK with a billionaire paying a lower % rate then them in taxes, but are actually brain washed enough to argue they should pay less.