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I’m thinking “based”

>>13292225
houses are cheap anyway. good land is expensive.

>>13292225
That’s a weird way to spell trailer

>>13292225
pass. get a real house. unless a manufactured home is your only option

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCC8fPQOaxU

>>13292286
Get your ass back to redddit fucker

>>13292225

>>13292326
That video shares more knowledge on the subject than you'll ever have in your life you fucking idiot

>>13292248

>>13292237
Trailer is just a weird way to spell you don't know what you're talking about. After 1976 manufactured homes had to be built to federal code.

They are stick framed houses on pier and beam foundations. They are framed the exact same as any spec/tract home in a suburb. It exists, it is a "real" house. People view them as disposable, and trash them (ever seen the inside of a foreclosed "real" house). People also don't install them on foundations which range from $1500-4000 dollars and then complain when their $50,000 house falls apart when they refused to spend the 1500 bucks on a foundation.

The only houses "superior" to manufactured homes are actual structural masonry homes like they used to make in Europe. I'm only aware of one builder in the entire USA doing it this way, and his first class of apprentices just graduated. His houses are superior to literally everything, and unless you live in two specific areas in the USA you are not living in one of his houses (Maybe if you were in, say, Boston or some very old neighborhood in Chicago you may find structural masonry but I'm not going to count this).

They are the single best way to get out on your land for an affordable price. You then sell the home later when you build your permanent home (hopefully out of something other than 2x6's and OSB because that's literally what all tract houses are framed with, and its the same thing used in manufactured homes).

-t sold them

>>13292347
>>13292286
>Believing John Oliver's content.

Yikes. Are you lost?

>>13292404
Go back watching Fox News trumptard

>>13292404
That video is correct though. Grew up in a mobile home park and have seen this happening.

>>13292439
>watching either
no thanks, honestly

>>13292443
of course it's true, not only that video,if you think the data of his videos are false you're retarded

>>13292393
>muh federal code of binding sticks and cardboard for burgerclap cucksheds
kek, invest in a real house, faggot

>>13292443
>mobile home park
Thread's not about trailer parks.

>>13292393
whats the name of the builder who makes structural masonry homes in the U.S. for when I make it?

>>13292461

Go ahead, take down your siding. Tell me what you see. If it's Tyvek and OSB you're living in something with the same structural quality as a trailer. Chances are your brick is also one course thick too, since it's "veneer".

You have no ground to stand on if your house is in a suburb.

-t Actually been to the factory and watched them being made. Merle and Cletus on the line do a better job than Jose and Pedro that your local GC hires off of craigslist.

>>13292496

"A Hope for Architecture / Orthodox Masonry".

Last article I read said he aimed for $80/square foot turn key on your land. Expensive? Sure, but still cheaper than meme "custom" homes where they flash it up while still building it with OSB and dimensional lumber.

I saw someone post in a thread about this earlier this morning (I think). Unironically snapped me out of my funk thinking manufactured homes are for plebs. Now I am looking for land and how to accomplish this in the PNW. Thanks based manufactured home salesman.

>>13292531
That was me. You're lucky, up in your area they are much higher end (as the market is usually 2nd homes and lake houses for boomers).

In Oregon I think they require 20 acres per home (which can suck if you are poor but can be great since you aren't going to have people right up in your face).

-t Okie

>>13292393
That’s a long expiation to cope with the fact you live in a trailer

>>13292225
buy land, build a cabin

>>13292610
This is the redpilled option

>t. Fucking off to Nowhere, Montana with my soon to be wife

>>13292469
Many parks contain manufactured homes. Don't get held up on the name. It's basically a upper end park. Stay ignorant.

>>13292518
thank you based builder fren.

>>13292439
Get back to your /leftypol/ containment. Also FUCK NIGGERS, KILL ALL HOMOSEXUALS, THE HOLOCAUST NEVER HAPPENED, and
HEIL HITLER!!!! 1488

>>13292286

>>13292496
>structural masonry
you make brick sound like fucking magic

>>13292460
>advertise as loving, tolerant leftist
>call people retards
How do live with such hate, Anon? Low self worth? How many face piercings and neck tattoos do you have? Does engaging in deviant sexual acts give you long-term gratification or only short-term? How many different SSRI meds are you currently taking?

>>13292393
Is structural masonry superior to poured concrete?

>>13292286

>>13292979
if you mean bricks especially modern variants then sure for low story buildings absolutely superior. if you mean stone and mortar than fuck no.

>>13292961
Considering the fact that in the USA the majority of "brick" homes are just 1 course of bricks placed on the outside of a stick framed house as a facade, yes it is indeed magic.

>>13293167
around here people build their own brick house all the time its mostly unskilled labor it all depends on the foundation and keeping them walls straight. doorways are tricky if you want to use brick but most people use reinforced concrete for lintel.

>>13292404
this. john oliver is a fucking psyop. sometimes they show good stuff but 80% of the time it's some leftist agenda-driven garbage

>>13293244
I'm assuming you're either in England or Southern Europe?

2 story structural brick house on concrete slab poured to frost depth would last to judgement day.

>>13293275
What is the leftist agenda? which episode are you referring to? Don't you like that he considers Trump an idiot? the point is that he is an idiot and every normal human being around the world is well aware of that

>>13292286
Gas yourself incel

>>13293338
a virgin fatso trumpist on 4chan is calling me incel, I'm crying

>>13293316
the vaccines stuff for example. it's a scientific fact that vaccines with mercury are responsible for the exponential rise in autism cases. there are so many autists in america today it's unbelievable, compared to the 60s and 70s for example.

http://www.avrameusa.com/

Why should I not buy this for $30k?

>>13293314

>>13293455
no it's false, first of all even the really old vaccines didn't use liquid mercury but compounds with a little of mercury, their potential damage has never ever been proven but those compounds are not in use "just to stay safe".
Secondly the reason why people think that vaccines cause autism is because autism can be diagnosed at around the same kids are vaccinated... the number of autism didn't raise, the point is that many functional cases of autism weren't correctly classified, being either considered normal/almost normal or simply retarded

>>13293459
Depending on the floorplan you're at nearly $65 a square foot before labor and finishes. Still mainly osb + dimensional lumber framing. Seems like the majority of them go on steel piers. If you like the look, go for it, but it's not going to hold up any better than a manufactured home. At that price range you can all in contract a basic stick frame house ($65-100/square foot turn key).

>>13292439
FOX NEWS IS GOOD NEWS

>>13292286
mobile home lot renting sounds like a pretty lucrative business.
>Boomers move their trailers in
>You get comfy rents every month for subdividing 10+/- acres for boomer's trailers
>Can fit 10+ trailers per acre
>All you're responsible for is utilities, road, and land upkeep

how the hell do we buy land?!

>>13294102
go on zillow, look for land on there. Also, look through your local newspaper's classifieds and there may be for sale listings there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snXCFoxRLCA
>Based Becky's Homestead
Also, look for listings on websites that AREN'T zillow. Zillow is where the majority of people are looking, so if you can find a website that caters to the reigon you're looking for then you're on the right track
Ex: http://www.northgeorgiamountainrealty.com/land/under20k/

>>13292286

>>13294102

Unironically, Craigslist, and small town local realty offices. Zillow is onions central. The good stuff sells within 30 days and the shitty stuff that is permanently on there is in the most horrible of places.

Usually there are boomers who owned 200+ acres and farmed it in the past who subdivide it into 5-10 acre plots selling it all the time.

>>13294058
This is very lucrative if you can get it certified as a 55+ retirement park. Usually these are all around lakes and the boomers take absolutely wonderful care of their homes. You also can set the age of the homes that are brought in. Make a rolling "no homes older than 5 years" and you'll never get ugly fucked up homes coming in.

God help you if you try to buy a regular park though.

>>13292225
We have these out on our acreage in Kansas, because one day your house will blow the fuck away or burn the fuck down.

I'd like to have a house built entirely out of granite and lime.

>>13292393
what exactly is the difference between manufactured and normal house? i mean i get that they are built in a factory, but is there any kinda legal/ tax difference? i am considering relocating and the manufactured homes in the area look exactly like comparable priced single family. like you said, if they are made of the same materials as tract homes, and are on a foundation, how is it any different than normal/ tract? why/ who decides what is classified as what? is it some back door to tax more or what?

>>13294417

Ok, so to start:
Manufactured homes are factory built homes built to the HUD code standards at the very least. Many builders exceed this, and almost all will allow you to custom build what you want. Depending on financing, you can either chose to deed them to the property (where they become real estate) or keep them a separate item of personal property (which will not encumber the land). There are separate tax levels for both. In addition, if you finance the mobile, but have the land paid for in cash, and keep it personal property your land cannot be taken should you be foreclosed upon. In addition, if your land is paid for before marriage the land could not be taken if you are still making payments on the home, or if you purchase it with your wife/husband. In short, manufactured homes are NORMALLY kept as personal property. You can do whatever you want foundation wise: but nothing is changed unless you chose to permanently encumber the deed with the home (which will require a specific type of permanent foundation). You CAN just set the home up on blocks and pads like they do in parks, but it is not affixed to the soil. This is why you hear of manufactured homes blowing away: because the park will not let you do ANY foundation work (even as simple as concrete runners for piers to sit on with hurricane struts augured into the earth).

Modular homes are factory built homes that are required to deed to the property and will always conform with local code. Some local codes require 2x6 framing instead of 2x4 (though most just require 2x4 and there are brands of manufactured homes who will ONLY sell 2x6 homes whereas others have 2x4 homes standard with 2x6 as an option).

For all intents and purposes:
Manufactured = personal property and is taxed as such.
Modular = real property that must always be listed as an improvement on the deed and will never be allowed to be removed from the property.

It's all about financing/tax purposes.

>>13294484
great info, exactly what i was missing!
have a +1 sir.

>>13294484
This is all a vast vast oversimplification, but I would recommend you take a very serious look at any pre owned manufactured home. As I said previously, though, you must understand that a lot of people view these homes as temporary and as such you need to ensure that they took care of their home. Standard stuff you'd do when you purchase any home( I hope for your sake you actually hire a structural engineer to look at any prospective properties you purchase, site built or otherwise).

I really wish I had taken the opportunity to buy a single wide, put it on a foundation, and pay a carpenter to put in a porch. Here's some old one that has obviously been taken care of so you get what I'm talking about.

>>13292286
You could say the same shit to all the retards living in jew york paying retarded rent.. They are throwing money away too.

>>13292439
Do you know where you are?

When buying rental real estate look for property with tenants that are registered sex offenders. They do not want to move so you can jack the rent way the fuck up.

>>13293459
Ideal

Makes sense in cheap areas without major natural disasters

>>13292286
>trailers are cheaper than traditional homes
>20 million people live in trailers
>but .5% are owned by corporations
>here's why poor people should get a 30 year mortgage instead

>>13294846
I wouldn't live in a shitrailer or a fucking plastic house.

I'd build a got damned concrete house with tiles and wood floors and all that shit. Modeled after Chinese apartments.

>>13294914
>I'd
/biz/ in a word

>>13292225
Rip off. A buddy of mine pays $1500 a month.
He could have gotten a nice luxury 2 bedroom apartment with that.

>>13295671
>>13295671
>pays 1500 a month
>no context

What are you on about.

>>13294484
an updoot to you good sir

>>13295671
Maybe he prefers not being surrounded by niggers. What a concept.

>>13292237
Topkek

>>13292225
They're built with more toxic chemicals than any other home you can buy

Why is this being shilled so hard right now

Leaf here, I looked into buying a vacant lot in my area and planting a manufactured home on it.
Cheapest vacant land is 325k, for 5500sqft, I was thinking of splitting the land with a friend and putting 2 manufactured homes on it, for about 350k each for the land+manufactured home. Pretty good when average homes are 500k in my area.
Turns out it costs an extra 50k in my municipality just to build a new house, for each of us. Plus it would take time/effort to get the vacant land rezoned for 2 different properties, and more cost to put down a foundation.

Honestly, fuck this scam bureaucratic bullshit deciding what people can do and fleecing them with added costs when they want to add new housing supply. It's a fucking pyramid scam where they can guarantee anyone trying to undercut the retarded overinflated market prices is still forced to pay more in order to make it not worth the effort.
Fuck boomers fuck this gay shit system fuck fuck fuck

I'd buy one

>>13295798
fellow leaf here, at this point I'm seriously thinking of buying some cheap land in the middle of nowhere and just building a cabin there, I just need to make sure I have internet access and plumbing

>>13293314
eceu but the funny thingis we have mudhuts a few hundred years old. so long you dont do something stupid and it has a good roof stupid dried mud will last a good while

>>13294234
>>13294147
Ty guys. You weren't kidding. I found some decent looking shit for under 20k on this Zillow. I just need to make some moolah.

>>13292393
have any thoughts on rigging them up to be more offgrid? septic tank? wells? solar?

thoughts on singlewide vs. shipping container housing?

>>13294547
Is this a pic of a singlewide or a doublewide?

>>13296779
That's a single wide

hello /biz/.

I am a neet looking to make quik bux to add onto my yang bux. so i can afford a manga and other weeb shit.

is forex trading something i can do? how? can you gib a link to anywhere explaining how i can do it please?

>>13296753
Lagoon. Deep well that won't run dry, and get an RO system. Propane tank(s). Diesel storage and generators. Don't think solar has gotten to the point of being feasible.

>>13295798
325k for 550m2 of land...
You guys are fucked.
Where is it? GTA?
Do you watch that guy, Crazy framer on YouTube? Your houses are shit.

>>13292225
if they can make people homeowners again im all for it but somehow i doubt the reduced labor cost will carry over in full to the customers

>>13292225
Depends on the manufacturer, but many are built as well or better than any site built home. They have to build them with the structural integrity to move on the highway multiple times, something site built stick homes do not need to be. I've considered buying some mountain acreage and plopping a nice one down to live in the mountains year round.

>>13296753

Septic tank is pretty much standard. I think I did one that got hooked up to sewer. Most places in Texas/Oklahoma (my experience) where people place these are going to be on septic tanks since they are way out in the country. However, even on county maintained dirt roads OK was good about providing rural water and electricity so standard procedure was septic tank + hookups. If you calculated your required electrical needs you could install an array when you put the home in. If you really wanted to go hard, you'd do the array, a well, and a septic for full off grid.

Shipping container housing used to be dirt cheap, now since everyone does it a rigged out turn key one is around $60,000. That's around 5-10k more than a 1200 square foot single-wide delivered and set done out to the nines that's probably nicer (interior finishes) than your house.

I wish the sustainability crowd would catch wind of manufactured homes.

Beautiful (͡° ͡°)

>>13295784
Shipping container is the better choice to avoid chemicals from overpriced mobile homes.

>>13297157
>>13297165

Kill yourself zoomer. The men are discussing how to actually achieve financial freedom in here.

>>13297208
I made 5,000 dollers in T-Mobile I earned my stripes

I would absolutely buy a manufactured home if I wasn't going to inherit a house already

>>13294147
that video was awesome btw. I was about to throw away 1500 for a laptop or crypto. But fuck it, I'm gonna to save up for something nice.

>>13298759
but yeah it's a shit battle, i work and live in jersey

and the asking price for this(ghetto ass city) is $110,000 lmao

>>13297134
thanks for the response, know how any of the laws in Washington State work?
Also what do you mean there is a 20acre minimum in Oregon?

Bump

>>13292286
Something's up anons i literally got served this link last nite and i watched the whole thing and now I want to go full jihad against Carlysle

>>13294569

Living in Jew York have the benefit to being in one of the biggest cities in the world and lucrative employment opportunity. If you can't take advantage of that, you don't belong here.