/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>13288171
GE to $8.50
TSLA to $300
MSFT to $110

ugh, wrong non-GEAN!!! based op, of well next time.....

These threads keep hitting new lows

stop shitting up the catalog

>all fields

>>13288201
>stop shitting up the catalog

Oh the irony

Why does the Left have to tie race into every single topic? That Congressman lamenting all of the white males in front of him was outrageous.

>>13288201
kys cryptonigger
you faggots should be confined to /trash/

THREADLY REMINDER THAT DIVIDENDS ARE YOUR FREN

fake divbro can suck a bag of jannie dicks

>>13288224

The whole point of this board was crypto, you dumb newfag

why don't cryptokeks just trade currencies?

Should I buy X

>>13288171
Karen's smooth thighs squeezing my head!
Karen's hot piss gushing down my throat!
Karen's soft hands twisting my testicles!
Bully me Karensama!

>>13288283
Hasbro dividend yield 3.11!

>>13288291
Get a job, hippie!

>>13288201
>>13288291
Business and finance board

The Panic of 1873

Banks, especially Jay Cooke and Co. External Link, raised millions of dollars through selling bonds to finance construction. Speculators 'bet' on the railroad, gambling on the fact that settlement and opportunities to make money would follow behind the completed railway. However, construction expenses ballooned and outpaced financing. Efforts to raise more funding failed. When they could no longer pay the bills, Jay Cooke and Co. and other banking houses folded. The collapse of the railway financiers sparked high bank withdrawals, the failure of brokerage firms, and railway construction halted. By September 20th, the New York Stock Exchange suspended trading for the first time.

>>13288318

That came into existence only to move crypto from /g/

stupid newfags

>>13288283
Are they though? The dividend reduces future earnings and I have to pay tax on it right away instead of when I'm old and retired with low tax bracket.

where can i get a small loan of one million dollars so i can finally start making some real money?

>>13288291
Those are imaginary currencies.

>>13288171
is "schadenfreude"-investing a thing?
>big, stable company breaks in
say Volkswagen with the Diesel shit
>you KNOW they will recover
>bet while low, cash out once things return to business as usual

i'm ashamed to admit that i have 0 knowledge about the stockmarket except for the wagee-rebated shares i still hold from a previous employer and GTA, where there's a string of missions to sabotage companies and ride their competitors moonshot. feel free to laugh.

>>13288291
/biz/ - Business and Finance was originally made as a containment board for crypto tumors like yourself, but there are much better things to be talking about that are considered Business and/or Finance, like the stock market
You should either be moved to /trash/ or given your own /shitcoins/ containment board

how can I tell if these bumbs on my junk are measles or something else?

>>13288340
Unlike you I was here long enough to see it be a problem and also to miss the boat. But if you want to talk about crypto, I'm sure there's a great subreddit for you so you don't have to be reminded of your failures in the crypto market fren

>>13288353
I'm loading up on these low crude prices. Cheapies. Brilliant move to buy puts on USO.

>>13288363
>but there are much better things to be talking about that are considered Business and/or Finance, like the stock market

LOL. like the high level of discourse in these threads? top kek

>>13288420
moved into spy puts and right aid calls, we're going to make some money.

>>13288443
How do feel about snap puts?

>>13288436
These threads are better than "durr buy muh shitcoin because itll go 2 da moon" or epic satoshi shitposting
The entire crypto market is a joke kept aloft solely by hype and speculation
Any serious adoption of blockchain technology will come in the form of governments and companies making their own tokens, as history has shown

>>13288436
Much preferable to LE FUNNY BEAR WOJAK AND LE FUNNY RED WOJAK edits. Have fun, last (You) for you.

>>13288341
1. companies with dividends don't need the money usually. most good companies have a payout ratio of less than 60 percent (unless its a REIT or otherwise required to pay more out)

2. You can get around the tax by putting your divvy producing stock in a tax differed account.

3. with enough divvies, you will never need to sell any principal and can develop a yield on cost so high that is can provide a substantial chuck of your total capital investment on an annual basis (see Buffett and his KO divvy yield on cost)

>>13288436
>>13288460
The vast majority of coins in existence have absolutely no real life use whatsoever and exist solely as a vehicle for speculation, and the only real use bitcoin has over fiat currencies is buying drugs on tor
When have you ever used crypto to buy something other than drugs

>>13288456
Look when their earnings are purchase some puts, close ahead of earnings.

Fuck Dean, CAG is my best friend

>>13288491
MKC is and always will be my favorite food stonk
I wish I had been able to buy some at 120

Anyone know the name of the economic effect that happens when a commodity is used and taken out of circulation/ existence?

>>13288500
its good but at Cagny they said themselves they were 'shocked' at the past years growth

>>13288502
your mom's vagina

Selling GPRO to buy KHC was a mistake.

>>13288462
So far in this thread
>anime images
>>13288310
>Karen's smooth thighs squeezing my head!
>Karen's hot piss gushing down my throat!
>Karen's soft hands twisting my testicles!
>Bully me Karensama
whatever the hell that is

>>13288212
/pol/ BS

>>13288352
>more shitposting

>>13288401
>more shitpositng

yeah, like I said high level discourse!

take this crap thread over to /b/

>>13288571
Nice shitpost bro. Way to contribute to discussion.

>>13288571
One more you just so I can call out your level of Reddit spacing. Believe us, we can see your post. You don't need to give every little thought its own line.

Great, now we've had our fun, so leave.

short gold long oil

>>13288554
SELLING GRPO WAS GREATEST MISTAKE OF LIFE

>>13288571
D-does /biz/ even have non-poop post threads O_O

Me just clicked around alittle and not find any substance posts @_@

>>13288603
>resorts to the Reddit playbook

like clockwork

not buying DF at this time would be a COLOSSAL, UNBELIEVABLE mistake

Straight to $5 boys

>>13288631
You seem like someone who is easy to rape.

>>13288401
step 1. detach your penis. you should have learned how to do this in elementary school on penis inspection day

step 2. take a SOFT bristle brush and clean the unit carefully. use dish soap if necessary

step 3. eat it

step 4. ?????

step 5. you're done, because you have no penis there is no need to worry about the bumbs on it.

step 6. get tested for measles and herp, if it isn't either you don't need to do steps 1 through 5 but if you did, sucks to be you

>>13288645
Youd be surprised how hard it am to resist once you've been knocked around and pinned down T_T

Whenever you hear about rapists having scratches know his victim was brave

>>13288651
penis inspection day? I didn't go to catholic school bro.

>>13288672
>said the perfect victim

>>13288677
Maybe if you am'd you would no have so many things on yo peepee

There was a big fuzz about the 1st photograph of a blackhole today. Have you anons invested in space related shares? I've been thinking of buying MAXR or GomSpace.

>>13288729
Shitter stocks

>>13288697
Nuuuuuuu :(

>>13288729
No
Me not believe in space

The problems had emerged around 1870, starting in Europe.In the Austro-Hungarian Empire, formed in 1867, in the states unified by Prussia into the German empire, and in France, the emperors supported a flowering of new lending institutions that issued mortgages for municipal and residential construction, especially in the capitals of Vienna, Berlin, and Paris.Mortgages were easier to obtain than before, and a building boom commenced.Land values seemed to climb and climb; borrowers assumed more and more credit, using unbuilt or half-built houses as collateral.But the economic fundamentals were shaky.
Wheat exporters from Russia and Central Europe faced a new international competitor who drastically undersold them.

The 19th-century version of containers manufactured in China and bound for Wal-Mart consisted of produce from farmers in the American Midwest. They used grain elevators, conveyer belts, and massive steam ships to export trainloads of wheat to abroad.

Britain, the biggest importer of wheat, shifted to the cheap wheat quite suddenly around 1871.

By 1872 kerosene and manufactured food were rocketing out of America’s heartland, undermining rapeseed, flour, and beef prices.

The crash came in Central Europe in May 1873, as it became clear that the region’s assumptions about continual economic growth were too optimistic.

Europeans faced what they came to call the American Commercial Invasion. A new industrial superpower had arrived, one whose low costs threatened European trade and a European way of life.

As continental banks tumbled, British banks held back their capital, unsure of which institutions were most involved in the mortgage crisis.

The cost to borrow money from another bank — the interbank lending rate — reached impossibly high rates.

This banking crisis hit the United States in the fall of 1873.

Made some Shekel on Kroger
Time to buy more FDP

>>13288729
MAXR had many insider buys last quarter.

I shorted the bottom on SPY, fuck this market.

>>13288756

>>13288677
this explains your degeneracy

YVR bois

>>13288571
Yes KEK
Went through entirely of /biz/ and its 100% shootposts
What a pathetic board kek

Every time I give this board advice it turns out incredibly well but i never make money off it because the advice I keep to myself is what I trade on (and its working out terribly)

>>13283180
>Its probably time to buy AMD again
>>13286262
>sell AVGR PM

still hodling DLTH

>>13288826
post again when it actually starts to go up

>>13288771
>Time to buy more FDP
This SO MUCH
good post anon

>>13288765
What the heckies am "rapeseed" O_O ?

A major economic reversal began in Europe and reached the United States in the fall of 1873. The signal event on this side of the Atlantic was the failure of Jay Cooke and Company, the country’s preeminent investment banking concern. The firm was the principal backer of the Northern Pacific Railroad and had handled most of the government’s wartime loans, using a widespread sales campaign back by advertising to sell bonds to people who had never before owned securities.

Cooke’s fall touched off a series of events that encompassed the entire nation. The New York Stock Exchange was closed for 10 days. Credit dried up, foreclosures were common and banks failed. Factories closed their doors, costing thousands of workers' jobs. The volume of destitute people soon overwhelmed the abilities of charities to function. Most of the major railroads failed.

The public tended to blame President Grant and Congress for mishandling the economy. The causes were much broader, however. The postwar period was one of frenetic, unregulated growth with the government playing no role in curbing abuses. More than any other single event, the extreme overbuilding of the nation’s railroad system laid the groundwork of the Panic and the depression that followed. Recovery was not realized until 1878.

In addition to the ruined fortunes of many Americans, there developed from the Panic of 1873 bitter antagonism between workers and the leaders of banking and manufacturing. This tension would erupt into the labor unrest that marked the following decades.

Repost but anybody watching NVTA? It's been going up steadily for a while and I can't figure out why. Seems like a correction is coming soon so I hopped off but I'm still watching closely and wondering if anybody else is holding

>>13288862
load up now for when it goes up it goes up with or without you

dont underestimate the power of autistic gamer s

GAMES RISE UP

>>13288800
Im going to start inversing you

>>13288916
Yeah been off lately
Also in trading that referred to as "fading"

>>13288800
When I went to sleep last night you were being reall bullish what happend

>>13288952
The drugs wore off so the euphoria was gone.

AAPL reversing. Good job tricking retail market manipulators.

>>13288341
>I only invest in literal Ponzi schemes

Fucking cunts boneraped my portfolio into a 25 dollar margin call and prevented me from averaging down on those AAPL calls I bought at 201

Do i buy AMD now?

>>13288863
26-27 been a good range trade the past weeks
better not have broke

>>13288978
I hope so, my calls are at 205 for aplel.

AAPL just needs to break 200 then it zooms to 202, we'll be stuck there for awhile.
autistic cum rags fascinated with round numbers.

Fucking mods hardware banned from /pol/ again those stupid fucks REEEEEE

Liquidated today btw

>>13289029
Those will probably be worthless if they're for friday. I have one too and immediately regretted buying it. Otherwise I have some 200 and 197.5 for the 18th

>>13288892
Colza. Cheaper than olive oil, with a nutty flavour.

>>13289061
its for friday, what a fucking week.
Im just hoping to break even now.

I mean if you've been watching AAPL today you'd have seen large bids hitting all sorts of limit sells, this run mustve attracted a lotta baggies. There's no absence of buyers and sellers are unpanicked.

>>13289084
Tell me about it, every calculation I'd made playing the SPY was correct and I was all set yesterday to make my exit with a cool 5000 dollars, but then Trump ruined my life with a tweet.

>>13288896
Thanks, historyanon.

yah yah broke 2hundo

Fed minutes were a buy signal I guess? Or maybe we were just holding off until they released fearing a sell signal?

>>13289052
my IP range has been banned from posting on 4chan for months
faq says its temporary but guess not ...

Everytime I place a 69 limit order on NATH the price immediately drops to 69.01 this is SHENANIGINS

>>13289180
>Thinks fed minutes are a buy signal
Not gonna make it

>>13289234
They obviously were, since buying happened after they were released, Brainlet.

>>13288892
do you know Canola?

>>13288636
Just bought 250 shares of DF. We're gonna make it.

>>13289248
Major indexes still flat brainlet. Fed open to possibility of hiking rates... How is that a buy signal again?

>>13289275
Because buying happened after it was released along with increased volume at 2pm sharp. I don't think you know what a buy signal is.

Ok frens that are holding MCD, I just went out and purchased a Bacon Smokeass Artisan Signature Crafted quarter pound sandwich from one of your eateries. I'm going to tell you how it is.

AAPL is all over the place. I've got no clue.

>>13289293
Increased buying = indexes slighty negative now... thanks

>>13289313
Yeah, because 13 minutes have passed. A buy signal is still a buy signal even if everyone sells off afterwards.

>>13289294
ok first off the burger is overcooked, this is to be expected. The jerk dick person you're paying to make it didn't put bacon on it. The french fried onions are a nice touch, but the sauce doesn't know if it wants to be sweet, smokey or spicy. Overall it gets a 2/10 never again.

>>13289294
MCD's constant attempts to present their image as being more and more upscale is hilarious to me, they're never going to be able to get away from the stereotype of being garbage food. How great would it have been if they'd doubled down on that, embraced trashiness like a dollar store or something.

>>13289338
I can't believe the jerk dick who wants to get paid $15 an hour and collect a free yang every month just for breathing forgot the fucking bacon.

>>13289257
I might buy a couple hundred more in your honor

I should've just shorted lyft

>>13289356
they're also racists, they target black communities with patronizing, unhealthy bullshit like this lmao

>>13289257
>>13288636
burn it up
3 next week

>>13288892
What have your trades for the day been

All these financial news websites must be in cahoots.
>release articles about AAPLs win streak
>release articles the next day wondering why AAPLs win streak ended
Its your fault for pressuring selling dumbasses.

>>13289356
>wants a livable wage
>cant even make a sandwich
oh im laffin

>>13289334

Every time mickey d's tries to get fancy they botch it.

What WEED stocks are we buying today my dudes?

Looks like Canopy (ie the Bitcoin of weedstocks) is beginning to wake up. Could this be the start of the Green bull run?

Robinhood is offering level 2 data for gold fags.

CAG should go to 32 since they took back everything they said in the last guidance

>>13289507
>What WEED stocks are we buying today my dudes?
None honestly


Unrelated note, do you guys buy foreign stocks? Which ones?

>>13289624
where?

>>13289624
TD Ameritrade offers this data for free though. Just dont trade with them if muh 6.95 too expensive...

>>13289655
peep their blog. I wonder how well this will work, you think they're doing it entirely in house or will they just scrape data from a real brokerage?

>>13289637
Non-american stocks I have are Aurubis, Thyssenkrupp and Weibo.

>>13289429
me getting off SPY for good
so this ES_F

longed @ 2883, sold @ 2889

very easy day >_> not gonna make serious trades until ES either 2891 or back under 2841

>>13288171
SNAP to $20 by June 30

>>13289703
I've got SPY puts at $287.50, $287, $286.50 and $286 that expire on Friday... Am I going to make it?

>>13289637

Buy TCEHY for long term.

>>13289703
>me getting off SPY for good

Why'd you decide to do that, out of curiosity
Also, I didn't know futures were open during market hours

Should I FOMO into a biotech stock after it jumps 150%?

>>13289786
maybe

Almost time to short GBTC again

anybody got a tl;dr on them minutes? looks like nothing of value was posted and jsut algo rape.

>OTLK

>>13289786
Yeah totally (that's sarcastic). 99% of the time fomo is the worst thing a stock trader can have

>>13289825
No rate hikes in 2019. Pretty much what we already knew, thats why it sold off immediately.

>>13288475
>When have you ever used crypto to buy something other than drugs
I heard that you could use it to hire undercover police officers to murder your business partners and spouses as well.

we just went Facemelter

>>13288619
You shit up this thread more than the crypto kiddie trolling. Crypto kiddies only troll us like once a week too.

weird. gold miners just got ass pounded but the spot price is steady

>>13288636
Why?

Buying some IVZ cheapies

>>13289756
No
Stasticly this week is 90% of closing green

>>13289778
There dozens of reasons but mainly for more liquid and so dont have deal with slippage like on SPY or SPXU

>>13290028
MILK

>>13290045
I only have 2 shares :(((( bought in early February

>>13290069
I've been waiting for a solid uptrend, probably waited too long :(

Hurry /smg/! Should I sell or wait for tomorrow in hopes it goes up to $57??

>>13289338
Honestly this. Whats great is their "premium" offerings are shit. I don't exactly have cheap taste and reject junkfood 90% of the time. When I need a quick bite and I'm not home though I'll typically stop by McDonalds and get a big Mac.

>>13289991
No me dont O_O
Am good poster
Am postergirl

>>13290088
Hold forever. buy more.

MO and CAG are two of my gems this year. Bought when they tanked, held and collected dividends and returns. very lovely
Now I just need my friends NWL, DF, TLRY, and KHC to do the same :)

>>13290047
so I should daca and buy more as they go down?

>>13289786
Just say no to FOMO. At all times.

>>13290088
Sell, tabacco is bad for you

>>13290129
I know you're being sarcastic but I have kept buying in to long-term puts or calls and have it work out OK
I don't know if anyone successfully does that with 48 hour tickets tho

>>13290069
>Animucha

>>13290124
> girl

WTF JUST HAPPENED WE GAPPED UP AND MY SPY PUTS WENT DOWN -50% FUCK FUCK FUCK.

>>13290129
>daca
they have to go back

>>13290127
Was talking about my options since they expire Friday.

>>13290160
It's over for theta decay incels

BAC to hit 30+ next week, its been too long

>>13290124
Thanks Minuchan, everything spike but me!

>>13290124
RKG is not for bullying
BULLY ME RKG
PISS ON MY DICK

>>13290169
ahhhhh my bad
sell everything you own, including those options, and buy shares of MO.
and all kinds of other food and consumer goods stocks that pay dividends

>>13290177
I prefer BLK and JPM, but good job

>>13288619
>SELLING GRPO WAS GREATEST MISTAKE OF LIFE

you should have just HEDL like I am with GALT

>>13290181
>BULLY ME RKG
>PISS ON MY DICK

>>13290187
Thanks for advice fren

>AVGR

Get FDA approval, stock gets destroyed in the last 5 minutes

Shill me some options that will make me rich /smg/.

I can't tell if this is bull trap or bear trap.... Is the current price the new support or resistance?? I don't fucking get it anymore. I need a fucking vacation from this shit.

>>13290127
oh fuck Deans just recovered the days loss

>>13290250

Just shut up 'n' BUY.

>>13290208
I WASHED MY PENIS FOR YOU RKG

GALT am of GO UP

>>13290250
yo just buy value stocks
I'm gonna throw out random letters here
CCR
NUE
CAH
ABC
MCK
I just made those up

>>13290262
we got a big sky above us and solid grass beneath our feet
the milk will flow, the butter will churn

>>13290193
BAC is the new BLACK
Moynihan FOR THE WIN

>>13290281
>went down 5 cents immediately after I posted that

wew
still doing pretty good today on above average volume

>>13289793
>>13289856
>>13290139
the stock Im referring to is EMBI. Used to be called NMUS. Cannabinoid based medicines with positive preclinical data for the treatment of Glaucoma and other illnesses

SO GLAD I DIDNT SELL MY APLEL CALLS

>>13290308
I bet there's someone lurking in this thread trying specifically to fuck with me

Not going to work tho

It's a wonderful feeling to know that there has never been a single black person in these threads ever.

t. Proper Rich, Evil White Man

>>13290250

>>13290340
Nokobro

>>13290262
>Bought DF close to the day's bottom
Feels good man.

>>13290340
hey what up my n word

just got this ad.
dump pet products, they're marketing to normies now

>>13290363
those proshares assholes literally stole my idea

But they forgot to add GIS so it sucks

>>13290250
287 is support 2900 (idk what that is on spy) is resistance.

AAPL a sneeky bitch

>>13290434
timmy trillion sneaking back to that #1 spot

Free TA from friend at University of Rajshahi!
GreenDot ready for bull!

I thought it seemed suspicious that at the current rate AAPL would be hitting the 1 trillion right before their pre-earnings dump. Don't hold past the week before earnings. AAPL has never been bullish going into their ER. Buy calls before the ER and become rich. Tim would be a failure of a CEO if this ER isnt a knockout.

>>13290212
games fucking rigged bro

we have not had a red week all damn year. Isn't the spring time when all the boomers retire and put all their stuff up for auction?

>>13290449
>>13290434
Sneaking?
What part of "I'm TIM APPL and my dick is bigger than all of the 500 S&P's put together" seemed subtle to you?

>>13290465
Why do people use bars instead of candles?

Sup bros, having a beer before close.
I wish you all great gains, I hope we can all make it someday.

>>13290498
No Larp, all the boomers already pulled out their money in like 2012 at a fat loss
now theyre just living on social security

>>13290212
It was priced in. You can tell just by looking at the chart. Told yall to sells. I did.

When you're playing biotechy PR you gotta set your limit sells weeks in advance

>>13290282
>CCR
>NUE
>CAH
>ABC
>MCK
Just went all in, even spread across these. Thanks (I hope)

>>13290527
But if there's a good chance of a buyout and you have plenty of time to wait, it's best to hold on for the buyout, right? (Question not related to AVGR.)

>>13290212
biotech stocks are a dirty bunch to play with.
Same thing happened with mnkd, sanofi paid an FDA chink to delay FDA approval and completely fucked the share price up.
Luckily, mnkd is starting to get past all that and will make me filthy stinking rich in a few years.

I decided I want this market to crash so I can buy HY bonds safely during the recovery

If I buy HY bond funds now surely the market will crash all over me

>>13290555
it was random
but very lucky
like your digits

LYFT what are you doing?

>>13290311
Wait for a couple days then, see if it drops back down. It's probably not going on another runner like that. See if people want to take profits before you jump in.

>>13290499
>fake combobreaker and fake downgrade throwing a wrench in options market
Almost panic sold today

>>13290555
MCK is good, CAH is the same sector but a little worse
all pharmacies are under a lot of heat
slowly average into MCK and WBA in my humble opinion. good chance of oversold BOUNCE

>>13290590
Good Discipline!

I panic bought the spikes on apple and disney, thinking I might not get the chance at that level again. I'm a fucking retard.

Also bought the dip on MO, then it kept dipping and hasn't gotten back to my basis yet.

I'm the worst!

>>13290560
Lol no. Trade biotech on FDA announcements and data PR. Buyout pip dreams are the food of wishful bagholders without a catalyst to sell.

THEY'RE LYNCHING THE SPY!

>>13290525
Lol, the ones left behind still have their triple mortgaged mcmansion with a boat parked out front to pay for. They can't cash out until their 401k has enough to pay all of that off with enough money for yearly cruises and weekly olive garden.

>>13290620
I panic bought AAPL after Trump turned thousands of dollars of SPY calls into nothing. Almost thought I double fucked myself. but I should be able to break even on these AAPL calls, if not profit

> all these people here expecting DF to rebound

kek

>>13290651
well played, optioneer.

>>13290632
When I say fat loss I mean fat gain but they still panic sold

the boomers Ive talked to (co workers, family) tell me the exact same thing:
The husband was running out of money and their wife had at least 100k saved sitting in the stock market that they pulled it out to save them.
Same exact story across all these boomers.
weird coincidence at the very least

Super new to options trading, but I'm trying to understand what the benefit of higher calls are from a risk management point of view. From my perspective. Seems like you'd want the call to be reasonably close to the current price so your break even point is lower and you minimize the loss while ensuring you get into the profit zone faster. But seems like people tend to push for intrinsic value to be higher than I expected.

What am I missing here? I assume there must be a benefit. Is it more about the risk management factor in that you lose less of your money in case it fucks up?

What do I tell my mother?
She got spooked at the end of last year and moved everything to annuities.
She didn't believe in the Golden Bull

>>13290699
FUD the market to her so she feels like she made the right decision. Might as well.

>>13290699
Call her a fag and tell her she isn't going to make it

Ding ding ding! How did everyone do today? I'm down .05%, boring day. Nothing special, all my stuff was either flat or slightly down, disappointing. I don't know about this whole YVR thing, but no reason not to hold I guess

>>13290726
Up 0.48%
Thanks Tim Apple and Elon Tesla.

>>13290671
It doesn't have to rebound. It's been sold and sold into the dirt. with the current stock price if they just sell off what they can gracefully it will make a very very nice return.

>>13290699
your mom is B&RP.
please ask her what stocks we, /smg/, should buy
we will be eternally grateful for her sage wisdom.
she may not give you such advice so freely, you may have to ask about it in a roundabout way (talking about her favorite brands, etc.)

>>13290726
+0.67%

>>13290696
Stuff that's further from the strike price tends to be more sensitive to price movements in the underlying equity. (I forget which greek that is. no bully pls)

>>13290726
how long are you going to stay mostly in cash for
are you waiting for a crash

>>13290726
Fat 1% green day
special Shout out to CAG GIS and TSN

>>13290717
I trade very bullishly but publicly I'm bearish. You just seem much smarter when the market has a major move down.
I tell some acquaintance I'm expecting a crash and whether it happens today or 5 years from now they'll think back to me and just remember that I was right.

>>13290736
Like the past couple weeks/months?

>>13290718
based

>>13288171
Fuck it NFLX long calls, this is the bottom, we will see a move of 20 bucks into ER hype next week and people will want these 390 calls to scratch their gambling itch, once 366 breaks out 375 on Friday, once a typical Monday 3-5 buck sneeze, then the 15+ run

>>13290699
wait until tomorrow when we hit the circuit breaker and she's still got those annuities while the boomers all get laid off with out pensions or retirement savings and vote in yang for the extra yang a month to spend on cable tv subscriptions or what ever else it is boomers are buying,

>>13290726

Closed the day realizing $1,300 in profit.

>>13290743
I'm now less than 40% cash, I've just had an unusually flat week with few of my holdings moving significantly up or down. Odd. I think everyone knows I'm pretty paranoid and like keeping my powder dry more than almost anyone in the thread though kek. I am working on a scheme involving selling spy puts, not sure if it'll be viable anytime soon

>>13290773
I was wondering how much money a yang was

>>13290748
the crash is going to be tomorrow, except RAD is going to be the only business left standing, their stock will move to 2 yang a share and i'll have the rights to purchase 1000s at fifty cents each.

>>13290773
We're never hitting circuit breakers again.

>>13290696
A call/put out of the money is inherently worthless, and becomes valuable the closer you get to the strike because of speculation.
A call in the money is more expensive because it already has value. Options increase in value cent for cent if they are in money, with speculation acting as a multiplier

>>13290748
thats sad
In 2007 you actually had Warren Buffet talking about the bank issues as well as Jim cramer for the fed, nobody thinks bears are smart

>>13290726
You cant trade yvr

You gotta sit and marinate it

>>13290726

Flat. Pretty boring day. Nothing made any moves that required input.

>>13290737
I think that makes sense. So if your high call option doesn't quite make it all the way, then you walk away with less of a total loss potentially than one that was lower but not quite breaking even right?

Please tell me my 55 dollar lyft short puts will work. I've never traded options before. I'm scared. What happens if it doesnt make it by the 18th?

>>13290748
>I tell some acquaintance I'm expecting a crash and whether it happens today or 5 years from now they'll think back to me and just remember that I was right.

That's pretty silly, anon. Market has a big blow off every ten years on average. Of course you will be correct eventually.

>>13290806
When everybody loses their money they do. Bears dont get publicly lynched like cramer and the rest of CNBC did after the 2008 crash.

>>13290831
I know and it makes me look like a financial genius. If these were the 1920s I'd be going around selling snake oil.

>>13290830
it becomes nothing. worthless.
Sell it now.

>>13290726
-.0.05%
Obviously I blame the white male bankers.

I'm wasting too much time and money on this shit, I'm gonna walk the dog.

>>13290830

The Option Contract expires worthless.

>>13290726
I'm up 2k from Galt and lci.

Holy fucking shit it’d be foolish to fomo into this. Buy calls

>>13290843
Jim cramer even predicted the december correction if you watch Thestreet. bears are just pathetic negros and if they actually had money they would make more from dividends then attempting a generational short

>>13290527

I got my sell points set. Sell point was not there today. been holding this for a little while now. Will just keep holding.

>>13290565
Yeah they can be dirty. As long as one can cover and wait it out. Long run. Will be comfy as fuck

>>13290830

>>13290960
You mean the little clips in the street app? I forgot about those, we’re difficult to find but he seems like he drops the persona on there, free to be more honest. He actually seemed down/depressed a few times. Relatable, I like it.

When is lyft going to recover? Is it a lost cause?

>>13290465
I can’t tell if GDOT is picking up, or it’s just because the small cap banks rallied.

Actually should I try to scrape the bottom of LYFT tomorrow? Isn't UBER doing their IPO?

>>13291064
yeah his segments on the street on the nyse floor he used to do dailey, they were amazing because he dropped tips from his conversations with large specs and bank ceos Since he is CokeBrain and spills the beans

His info on Union Pacific jamie dimon during october was the only time youd hear about railroads and its impact during that time

>>13291082
lyft will recover once direxion comes out with the stupid cellphone app etf that comes with fang and throws in uber snap chat twitter lyft and grinder.

>>13291082
Idk. I'm thinking of chasing a 5000%er with 40 dollar puts.

>>13291127
That's if they put lyft in

which companies have you bet on to moon as a result of their 5g investments?

>>13291216
5g isn't going to have any meaningful impact in any market of any kind which is why I am net short companies that are investing in the technology.

>>13290696
>>13290820
Buying out of money options is a great way to clean out your portfolio is 1 easy step. Don't fuck with OTM until you understand option trading quite well (trade them for ATLEAST 6 months actively). If you
do not spot the trend correctly you will lose all of the premium, most likely, VS some. The most important thing about options is give yourself time to be correct, and watch out for theta decay. If I'm not going to exercise an option I usually sell it atleast two weeks before expiration and reposition on the same stock on a dip if the long term trend has remained.

>>13290737
Gamma is the Greek you are thinking of and the closer to the. Gamma measures the rate of change of Delta (option pricing per 1.00 in underlying equity) I think you are trying to say that calls with strikes further from equity price are more sensitive (higher Gamma); you have it backwards call Gamma is higher the closer to strike.

>>13291216
I suspect uptake of 5G will be limited in consumer markets due to pricing.
I plan to ride the 5G infrastructure hype up to launch (been doing pretty well from $INSG since last year) and dump once the rollout begins.

Thinking of buying LYFT 200 45 strike puts for April 18th.
>tfw can't buy options AH
I'm not gonna be able to get them that cheap come open.
Man I really wish I'd have loaded up last week.

>>13289212
It’s the nature of the dynamic IPs/phoneposting. They just tell the whole range to fuck off for most things except text posting. You can buy yourself that 4chan pass to get around it, but then, so much for anonymity.

>>13291344
>He's buying puts
>Get ready to PAMP EET

>>13291344
>gambling just after the trade deal is announced

theres going to be a lot of irrationality in the next few days

RIP Lyft Investors...

>>13291575
>LYFT

This market just ain't crashing. Fuck. Any recommendations for movies about crashes? I watched everything about the '07crash,but there doesn't seem to be a lot about the others.

>>13291711
This crash will be different. Won't be real estate. Maybe car loans or some other shit.
Am surprised derivatives haven't destroyed the world also

reminder that something happened in 2014 that aligned SPX and other indexes to WTI OIL
>>13291711
Big short is super fun, its not as much about crash as it is nice economy satire

>>13291761
what does it mean? I am brainlet

>>13291711
Also inside job, too big too fail, money for nothing.

All crashes start with the fed making a yuge mistake.

>>13289507
This hidden gem is about to take off. Fins at the end of April. U R WELCOME

>>13291793
did the fed make a mistake lowering rates recently? or we still good?

>>13291811
Low rates create bubbles... economy is slowing so they keep them low to pick up the economy... plus wall street is coked out on low rates so... they are screwed... by keeping them low, they can't go lower when shit hits the fan, they need to resort to other tricks.

>>13291786
well first of all it means if you invested in stock market only by longing whole index since 2001 you're dumb because % wise Gold shows better returns. You can clearly see that up until 2009 Gold is leading so even from 2007 youre better off with Gold rather than SP500. In 2009 market changed and gold is not leading anymore BUT most importantly last chart shows how identical WTI (oil) behaves to indexes. Oil is traded almost 3 times more hours so its more volatile but you cant deny correlation between oil and "economy". So no opec+ or Trump oily tweets or even freedom and democracy wars do not change oil trends

>>13291743
Consumer (personal) debt is my bet. Inflation figures are fiddled with to hide true rise in cost of living, people are maxing out credit cards with no hope of paying everything back if rate rises anymore.

>>13291743
I agree, but one cannot be 100% sure. That's why I want to know more about other crashes, like the great depression, which was partially caused by the automobile industry, if I'm correct.

>>13291761
Yeah, I loved it, it was quite entertaining, but Inside Job was SOLID. I even watched
"too big to fall "and some other crappy movie with K. Spacey.

I might sound very stupid now, but spy is made out of some amount of the biggest companies, right? So if a large fraction of those companies are oil companies...

>>13291863
this... also cross-check profile of personal debt with home ownership and you’re in for a VERY big treat

>>13291863

My pet theory is credit default swaps. A few companies default during a downturn and render at least one lending institution insolvent, resulting in a chain reaction of similar occurrences.

Also between Q1 2001 and Q3 2008 oil was racing with gold for highest return on investment absolutely BTFOING SP500 for 7 years. Commodities can and sometimes do outperform stocks significantly

>>13291711
The Dark Knight Rises

>>13291874
>I might sound very stupid now, but spy is made out of some amount of the biggest companies, right? So if a large fraction of those companies are oil companies...
not quite, as of now it makes little difference what index you play with. Only reason to pick DJI instead of NDQ is Apple and Boeing sometimes fall separately so you can arbitrage one index going different way

>>13291863
I can confirm. My parents got a €50k loan for personal use in 2 days. It seemed completely effortless and reckless .

Who provides student loans in the US? Banks or gov?

>>13291904
UUUU

>trump’s campaign just straight stole the OST for their new add—YT already took it down when WB complained

is sideways the new down?

>>13291904
have we started a fire, brother?

YES! THE FIRE RISES!

Fucking loved it, gonna watch it again soon.

on same time frame DJI barely stays with positive *inflation not adjusted* return
do not forget however, in next 2-4Quarter DJI will give back all gains and fall down harder than other indexes

Too bad oil is no longer independent rogue boi

>>13291970
yes, FED is VIX short

>>13291960
Gov provides student loans at a profit. They are backed by us govt but given to smaller banks to service. Students cannot default on those loans. Going rate is around 6%

Something changed in 2014 and I fail to see what was it....
Oil started to play by same rules as stocks and its been str8 up for stocks but not for gold. Up until 2014 gold was clear winner (that is of course if we dont count dividends on SP, divvies can change picture as a whole) I'd be comfortable with saying commodities vs stocks cycle just flipped and it's normal market behavior but it doesn't look nor feel like one

Glad to see there's at least something playing its own game

>>13291743
Corporate debt

Oh shit. Disney’s big day is tomorrow.

I’m betting for them in the long run, but how are we playing this? Do we expect it to pump and/or dump? Do we sell it off on the hype before the meeting, and try to buy back cheaper?

I don’t know about the current management, but Disney has managed to keep up with the cultural zeitgeist for the past 100 years.

If they acquired even more of hulu’s shares after the fox deal, would they have had to disclose it?

>biotech stock that's been on the decline since forever has been in sidewards movement for a few weeks
>buy stocks for ~500 euro on monday
>today it skyrockets by almost 50% because a danish consortium invested 6 million euros in the company
holy shit, today was a good day

>>13292394
Its gonna dump obviously, like every stock does after an "investor's day"

OH NU NU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx1zXvY3IVw

>>13292087
Mate, I've no idea, I'll just pretend it's coincidence till I do have an idea. Only brainlets come to biz.

>>13292458

Is the end nigh?

lige, gomment, subscgribe to find oud

who the FUCK is the sec and why are they making my boeing stocks crash

>>13292424
Who here /PHUN'd/?

>>13291853
Don't worry, they can just go negative interest.

>>13292448
Eiger seems like he prepares though.

If he comes in with a 6.99 bundle of Disney+, ESPN+, HULU-, maybe shows off a baby sitter mode that just shows your kids the Toystory trilogy on repeat, I think it could soar and never come down.

Also, hype up STAR WARS THEME PARK! And CAAAAAAAPESHIIIIIIT!!!

>>13292679
It doesn't matter. In the short term its guaranteed to sell off.
Case in point AAPL's March 23rd event sold off immediately, it took us a couple weeks for people to buy into what was actually presented.

So what are bank earnings gonna do? If JP Morgan beats expectations will it even go up?

>>13292723
yeah theyre gonna pump it because the fed will raise interest rates once in 2021 and they have to price in the 10 year yield by then to 2.7%

OLD THREAD!!!!

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>>13292752
M lookin at calls on in the 2% range for the 12th and they're super cheap, I can't imagine that the market would make a mistake like that.

>>13292546
That's me, my mistake. I heard that trump was going to kill airbus imports so I wanted Boeing cheapies.

>>13288352
Yellowstone Capital, don't sign the legal release they give you, make sure you form an LLC first and send them back a redacted version visually similar to what they sent you pre-signed without the Confession of Judgement