/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>13228356
Without a prenup, yes.

Any man getting married this century deserves to lose everything

>>13228367
>2019
>Still thinking prenups work

>>13228367
prenups get thrown out in court

>>13228356
Kek the fucking roastie in comments. Sure, she probably helped Bezos a bit in the beginning but she hasn't played any major role beyond that. $36 billion for doing (almost) nothing is insane. That being said, it sounds like it was a pretty good settlement for Bezos. She probably wasn't willing to risk having to settle for much less.

>>13228391
I keep hearing this. It's definitely not true in my country (northern Europe), at least not if you do it properly. Do they really not work in the US?

>>13228503
>$36 billion for doing (almost) nothing is insane.
it's all relative. the dude has 300 billion dollars. 36 ain't shit to him.

yes goy. dont get married or have children!!

>>13228356
how do i get a sugar mommy??

>>13228356
Well he cheated on her. It's not like she left him just for the money. She's 48 nearing 50. They've been married for 26 years and have 4 kids. What the fuck is she going to do with 36 billion now. I'm sure she'd rather just have had a successful marriage instead.

>>13228514
She can make any number of excuses
>he pressured me into signing the prenupt
>i didn't know about the prenupt until just before the marriage (howtf are you going to prove you told her about it a year before? or did you really wait a year to get married)
>prenupts hurt my feelings
>>13228524
by that logic everyone in this thread should get a few million from him, it's nothing right?

>>13228547
>he pressured me into signing the prenupt

>she pressured me into marriage

>>13228356
It forces a sell which lets him insider trade effectively

Crash is coming

>>13228571
the courts lean towards women, obviously. here's the math:
>men work more and make more money
>if we take alimony, ruling in the woman's favor generates more tax revenue in alimony fees
>always rule in favor of the woman

>>13228524
He has/had 148 billion. I'm sure he cares about losing 25% of his net worth.

>>13228514
prenups will get tossed if you try to regulate division of wealth gained during marriage and upheld if it regulates division of wealth gained before marriage.

for example you can agree that the castle you inherited is yours and it's appreciation is yours also you don't owe half of that to your spouse. but agreeing she doesn't get shit from your business that bloomed during your marriage will get tossed easily.

>>13228544
Based

>>13228599
It's pretty messed up that you don't even have the option to do it in the US. Why should two adults to be allowed to keep their finances seperate from each other? Well.. I'm sure most of you agree.. In my country you can keep everything 100% legally seperate.

>>13228648
not be allowed*

>>13228598
Getting out of a long term marriage for 25% is fucking amazing.

>>13228599
As it should be. She did half the work. Maintaining a man and family is unironically a full time job.

You incels dont know shit

>>13228667
i have no hard opinion on that subject btw. i can see how both sides are right and both are also wrong when it comes to this dispute.
my girl and me we make and save roughly the same amount. we got roughly the same emount of wealth. so this is not a question for us. even tho there is a concept similar to "common law marriage" here so she is entitled to half of my crypto gains in theory, but so far i mostly have losses she can have half of that.

>>13228667
>Maintaining a man
explain

>>13228544
for once I’m siding with the roastie, gross

>>13228758
it usually involves some calming motivating cleaning cooking and dick sucking
at least thats how i like my maintenance

>>13228514
>Do they really not work in the US?
Nothing works here.

>>13228799
>implying women do any of this
Cooking? AHAHAAHHHAHAHAHAHAH

>>13228852
mine cooks more than me at least
but its her bj skills why i would never leave her or cheat on her

>>13228878
So any divorce settling is for blowjobs alone. Nice.

>>13228852
Unironically this I don’t know any college aged women that can cook for shit excluding first generation immigrants and culinary students.

>>13228799
>calming motivating
The only calm and motivation I've got from a woman is calm from my overtime work at the office and motivation to get the fuck out of sight of the harpy I'm living with.
I lived with multiple women in shared apartments and the situation repeats itself whenever I lived with one. No problems with men - except the literally faggy ones.

>>13228524
She could liquidate it like the gox trustee and crash the remainder of his net worth. It'd btfo Amazon's financing to boot.

>>13228356
marriage is an ancient scam invented by jewish women whereby a relationship becomes a legal article, a contract, and the breaking of that contract results in the man losing half of his wealth, legally.

marriage, especially in this day and age is the most dangerous thing a man can do.
and since most men are starting to realize this and are familiarizing themselves with divorce rates (which dictate that more than half of married couples get divorced) have opted the state apparatus make it to where any couple living together for xyz amount of time, are by law legally married wihout actually having any marriage paperwork even signed. thats how bad the scam is now, and some women get divorced full time as a job having several marriages whereby they just take the mans money through nothing more than a pussy hustle. sad thing is, some men dont understand that women are apex predators, and they never will understand that until they get burned so bad by one they turn their backs on all women as the result.

t. divorced and half as wealthy as i once was

>>13228994
That wold just let him buy up more stock cheaply, because it would surely recover. In fact that's probably the real reason for this "divorce".

>>13229010
yea but even in this day and age if you dont get married but stay with the women for a long time you can get hit with "common law marriage"

stupid roastie will probably sell all the shares on market

>>13228386
Just wait until palimony becomes a thing. Women won't even get relationships if their lives depend on it in the event that becomes more widespread.

>>13229064
the only way around that is to either not live in those countries ie Canada or make sure that the woman doesnt live with you.

>>13229010
Sad. Remember the good old days when a divorce meant you beheaded your wife and got a younger one?

I want to go back to that. Who do I have to vote for to go back to that?

>>13228356
Just make her sign a prenup

>>13229865
There isnt any hope anymore. Feminism only exists to make women superior to men and to take advantage of men.

>>13229878
I've had 2 friends I went to an Ivy league with that both got prenups and guess what, it didn't even matter when it came court time. Both women simply said they signed under duress, and thats all a woman has to say to make a prenup null and void. There is no escaping the fact that whatever woman you marry, the single second you get married, she owns 50% of everything u have. Make no mistake, she will get it in the inevitable divorce.

Marriage is a death sentence for a man. Your whole life will revolve around pleasing a woman, "happy wife happy life" bullshit. And it's the other way around while the couple is engaged, because women obviously want the marriage to happen.

>>13228852
Even if they cooked, it wouldn't be worth it financially. Maybe if they were French trained pastry chefs. Most women consider making spaghetti and mashed potatoes cooking (takes 10 minutes each).

>>13229878
Prenups gets thrown out all the time. If the woman was under duress when signing it, say you gave an ultimatum, a judge can invalidate it.

>>13229932
That's the main issue:
>women want the marriage to happen

That's the thing, they know the benefits to your wealth that they gain simply by being married to you. If they can manage to con job you into marrying them, and they are very very good at pressuring you to fall for this trick, they own half your shit. It's an easy pay day for most women. Tricking the smart men is next level impossible for the average woman tho. Why do you think guys like McAfee never married? The reasons are obvious. There is no positive value added to your life by being married, and if you are so deluded into thinking the woman actually loves you and will never leave you - check the actual numbers on divorce because Sweetie, you are not special and neither is she.

Really hope this helps other anons not make the mistake of getting married.

>>13229972
What about the tax breaks man? If I don't get cucked by my wife, I get cucked by the government. What's a man to do?

>>13228514
The only thing that can protect a man in the U.S. from getting raped in a divorce settlement is to never be married in the first place.

>>13228356
im married with two kids and my life has never been more fulfilling.


p.s. married to a jap

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>>13230128

I had a Korean girl once but didn't want children with her because I was afraid they would have big heads! Do your kids have abnormally huge heads?

>>13228667
If you sign a prenup then BOTH parties agree to do it. Why should two adults not be able to make a legally binding agreement saying that they don't share their finances? We're talking about prenups, not marriage in general.

Also, something tells me you're in a relationship where your wife stays at home and takes care of everything. In that situation it makes a lot of sense that your wife should get a decent % of your net worth (assuming you didn't make a prenup).
But in most modern relationships the women aren't housewives. If you wife (or husband) has a much lower income than you or spends a much larger % of their income on consumption then it makes a lot of sense to want to keep most of the money you earned if you end up getting divorced.

>>13230196
based exclamation point user

>>13229972
In an age of er, "equality" getting married as a man is a riskier than normal endeavour that's for sure

>>13230128
Where are you currently located? Is she a japan native?

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>>13230277
lel checked
>>13230196

>>13228356
1/2 of everything is a meme. A married couple owns everything equally. There is no half this half that. The half only applies during divorce. Often that is not even the case when the husband has a lot of debt he often keeps all of it. Women already got children out of it so fuck off.

Divorce laws works differently around the world but now every civilized country use prenups and eventually even if you go full retard, the judges are not giving anymore the lifetime revenue to bimbos that marry a couple of years and divorce right after.

>>13228667
>marry roastie
>she has little ambition and prefers a low paying career with less work but more flexible hours
>grow your own successful business/career while she reaps the rewards by living with you
>she doesn't cook, clean, or maintain the home, and stops having sex with you
>you pay for restaurants or ordering food
>she cheats you on
>you divorce
>court gives her half your business
>court makes you give her more money as alimony to maintain the lifestyle you've been providing her
"She did half the work. Maintaining a man and family is unironically a full time job."
imagine unironically believing this cuckery

"b-b-but you shouldn't have married a roastie with no ambition"
people change, maybe she had a solid job with high upward mobility but she gave it up and changed plans after a few years of being married
maybe she didn't want other dude's dicks in her mouth but now she does

Nothing should be given just for being married, if she's helping at home while you work on a business, make that part of the business contract/agreement. Being in a relationship with someone should never entitle you to their assets.
It's maximum cuckery to be forced to pay them if they cheat on you, or if they're the ones initiating the divorce (which is usually the case).
No-fault divorce were a mistake.

>>13228356
Yes.

>>13230196
nah i was a bit spooked about race mxing but white+jap looks like it has a 90% success rate. both my kids looked total asian whem born but now they older they look more like keanu reeves than elliot rodger (i dont think keanue happa but.he has kind of asian face)

>>13230258

we live in japan atm but debating moving back to states. im from rural northwest so it seems unpozzed for now but we`ll see

>>13231621

Why would you ever have a woman work a job? Their job is to rais kids and maintain the house for the man.

Also, Jeff cheated on her you mongol incel.

>>13228367
They were married before they blew up though

>>13228356
She may have been instrumental in Amazon's success

he's fucked, she's going to sell those shares to google for a lot let to spite him off, to be honest he should've killed her, with 1 billion $ you can get a terminally ill man to shoot her and kill himself and leave the money to shoot her and khs and leave the money to his family.

>>13229010
>marriage is an ancient scam invented by jewish women whereby a relationship becomes a legal article, a contract, and the breaking of that contract results in the man losing half of his wealth, legally.

Do you have any idea how this shit worked just 20-30 years ago? This modern "marriage" is a whole different concept than it was before. And by different concept I mean it literally. They change the concpet of marriage when they included fags. It's no longer marriage.

>>13228356
that comment made me realize how true this statement is:
"men are testing ideas and women are testing men"

keep your calm, give them nothing and vote republican

>>13228514
All the woman has to do is cry to the judge, and that shit gets tossed. Friend lost half of a sizeable inheritance that he got before he had even met the woman. He even had a prenup for the inheritance, and it was a community property state. She said that she had relied on his wealth from the inheritance and the judge tossed it. They were only married 5 years and had no kids ,and she had a good job. She got a few million from what i remember.

>>13228367
>he thinks prenups work

>>13228356
> get married
> make a fortune
> use marriage to divorce and save a ton of taxes keeping you both with more money

haha

>>13231782
>vote republican
kek.
have fun spending taxes for dumb shit. at least the dems want to cut defense and help your kids get free college and healthcare (like literally every other western country)

>inb4 "muh money isnt your money"

whoever you vote for, you're paying taxes, might as well make pay for something that benefits you...

>>13232168

Look at this communist.

>>13232157
Cope

>>13232157

>>13228356
sucking his dick is a hard job

>>13228367
Those don't work anymore. Getting married if you're rich is retarded but he wasn't rich back then.

the law needs to be updated that if you as guy own more than amount x (like 1mil) , the 50:50 rule stops and the woman gets just a max sum of like y (eg 500.000) but not more.

there needs to be the understanding that when there is plenty of money it originates in 99.99% of all cases from the man. the woman that challenges that has to prove otherwise. current marrige/divorce laws are toxic for especially more wealhty men.

that bezos count should have received like few hundred thousands and thats it. like seriously thats already more than enough to have a good living!! total brain damaged that she gots a couple BILLION- just not right.

I actually think its a play to accumulate cheap stock when she liquidates

>>13231621
>marries shit tier woman
>complains afterwards

>>13232925

Just abolish the ability to divorce and it'll solve everything.

>>13228705
> my girl and me we make and save roughly the same amount. we got roughly the same emount of wealth

> so far i mostly have losses she can have half of that.

oof

his wife is so beutiful, seems so sweet...

>>13231621
>No-fault divorce were a mistake
nah, there perfect to break up the family unit! they do exactly what they were designed to do!

The only reason to get married is to provide your kids with a stable environment. No kids, no ring.

>>13231718
>She may have been instrumental in Amazon's success
Yeah, right.

>>13233175
The only thing she did was make him sandwiches while he made amazon

He could have paid a group of mercenaries to "deal with" the problem for far less than 35bn.

>>13233192
I mean that’s pretty important
He would’ve starved to death otherwise

>>13228356
Fucking boggles my mind we don't do the Ottoman system anymore: have a harem full of concubines to use and dispose of at your pleasure, with no legal liability for any of them

>>13228667
>maintaining a man
i.e. sucking his dick on a regular basis. You think the wife of Jeff fucking Bezos is doing any cooking or cleaning lmao. She achieved the dream of every woman and became the highest paid whore in the world

That's why i only have relatioships with boys.

Mental note: KILL YOUR WIFE BEFORE DIVORCE

>>13233952
THIS.

>>13228367
As I've said before prenups aren't realistic. Oh you're making $120k as an engineer. Sure are stacking that wealth Chad. Go for that prenup, that will work out just fine. Her mom will think you are such a responsible man for protecting your pathetic middle class nest egg.

>>13228356
The true redpill is that this was done to shield his wealth from either a market crash or antitrust action by the current administration.

>>13234911
Cope.

>>13228503
>Sure, she probably helped Bezos a bit in the beginning but she hasn't played any major role beyond that

Kicking off a company is the hardest part bro.

>>13234911
I just got REDPILLED

>>13230196
This is the key right here. All of you goofballs would not be whining about marriage if you would just marry an Asian woman instead of a white roastie.

billionaire or millionaire marriages shouldnt be looked at, at all when discussing on whether marriage is a safe thing for regular men today

look at the divorce happenings of people around your circle, your age group, and your financial group. thats how you decide. not by looking at the worlds richest people.

>>13234911

>>13232157
>> use marriage to divorce and save a ton of taxes keeping you both with more money

Well sir!

>>13234908
>butthurt_roast_beast.txt

>>13234977
This.

>>13228356

No, cheating on your wife is.

>>13235034
I think you didn't notice what board are you on
or you're just a retard who missed biggest bullrun in this century

>>13228544

Agreed.

A lot of anons seem to be ignoring that she cheated on him, after 26 years of marriage.

Like you said, I'm sure she would prefer to be married with monogamous man at 48 with 4 kids.

It's not like she's going to be living a YOLO life @ 48 with 4 kids.

>>13228356
Unequivocally, always yes.
No need to look elsewhere for the "what-if" or "if x then y," marriage is absolutely, completely, ridiculously a mistake.
If you doubt this, ask yourself why your chosen partner wouldn't just live with you and do everything as if you were a married couple, without the legal document? The ONLY reason is that your partner would want "security," which means he/she would want to have a hand wrapped firmly around the entire rest of your life, your finances, and your throat if they decide they no longer want YOU.
I'm not convinced that anyone can give even ONE good reason for marriage anymore. The courts have made sure that it's a complete loser's gamble.
If people "waited for marriage" with their sexual attitudes, or truly treated it like a life commitment, it might be different. Now, it's usually just the expected price of maintaining a relationship that goes on for over a year or so.
Reminder: no one will be able to give you a single good reason for marriage in 2019. It's sad, but the entire idea has gotten fucked beyond belief.

>>13235260
t. Never had a gf

>>13228356
In this day and age, yes

>>13228367
>>13228514
Prenups. Do. Not. Work! At least they do not in the UK, they are thrown out almost 100% of the time. The only real way you can protect your money here is by putting it in a trust, but even then, women are campaigning to get around that. So to be on the safe side, do not marry. Ever.

>>13235669
Isn't it the case that British men who marry Thai women in Thailand end up boring the Thai wife to death, making her escape the thing as well?

>>13235717
I have no idea what you are talking about.

>>13234908
Are you dumb? I don't care if a man makes 120k, 35k, or several mil per year, prenups are a must. No alimony, spousal support, no bullshit. Pre-marriage assets split as they were, after marriage MAY potentially be split 50-50 depending on each partners contribution.

>>13235743
Just know that British men make horrible, bland husbands all across the world. It's not a "british roastie" thing.

why do people even get married anymore?

Im dating 3 chicks at once and they all love to fuck once a week, i just rotate and go on dates whenever i feel like it and then drop them off home

I dont intend on having kids, so why bother getting married? Even the tax benefits aren't worth it

normies behave really fucking weird sometimes

>>13228356
Its not a mistake but it is a gamble. I've seen every type of guy and girl cheat on their spouse or screw them over significantly, even the ones that /pol/ would call good women and men. That's not to say you won't find a good person but there is no sure fire way of finding someone that won't take you for what you're worth one day. If you want a family you have to take the risk though.

>>13235819
Hedonist lifestyles aren't fulfilling lifestyles to everyone, that doesn't sound appealing at all to me and I'm single.

>>13228667
Is it a 36 billion dollar job though?

>>13229972
>>13229931
>>13229010

really based posts thanks for the heads up buddy. I've been red pilled on nearly everything except marriage, but I'm finally coming around to that too. Not worth it

>>13235759
Dude no you are dumb. Where are all the married anons with prenups giving the qrd? They don't exist. Prenups don't even hold up in court and you'd be laughed at by your SO for suggesting one while you're a fucking pathetic wage slave because you trawl a mgtow circlejerking forum.
t. Happily divorced anon

getting married to poors is a mistake

if your wife has more or equal its pretty good

>>13235852

You bet half your shit it's going to work.

>>13236302
Thinking the marriages where the man lost half of the shit that was his before the relationship had a very specific, defensible reason for this.

The man usually relied on his wealth to woo the woman. The relationship was advertised to her as a way to elevate her wealth, by the man. This gives him undue leverage over the woman which is then used to make her life hell.,This is a well known abuse tactic.

no

>>13228356
REMINDER: SINGLE MEN ARE SUBSIDIZING ALL WOMEN, NIGGERS, AND OTHER NON-WHITE MALES.

SINGLE WHITE MEN LITERALLY HAVE THEIR MONEY TAKEN AT GUNPOINT (LAWS AND POLICE WHO TAKE YOU TO THE RAPE-CAGE) AND GIVEN TO INTERRACIAL KEKOLDING ROASTIE WHORES AND THEIR MANDINGO-NIGGER AFRICAN BOY TOYS.

>>13228390
>>13228391
You are referencing extreme cases most likely. Prenuptial agreements have absolutely worked. Stop browsing MGTOW sites

>>13228524
how much will his shares be worth if this thot dumps hers on the market? XD

>>13233952
>One of the mercenaries gets the idea to blackmail him for 100 billion.