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>>13225914
what do you even mean anon
It's entirely possible, but a lot of people who call themselves such are probably just dumb rich kids
you need to be a person who can be happy being completely alone OR who makes friends very easily

Did this for 3 months in Japan/Singapore. Could have done it for a year in SEA but it was my first time traveling outside my country and I wanted to stick to the first world.

I hope not. I want to get an RV and work remotely for a couple years before I settle down, if I can

>>13226225
>work in a tin box, in the woods all day
>it's dark by the time you get to leave your tin box prison to enjoy your remote location
>yfw you've confined yourself to a week in a tin box and can't enjoy the wilderness around you
Why do this to yourself?

>>13225914
No. Remote employment, including self-employment is more doable than any other point in history.

>>13226299
Why would you work normie office hours if you work remotely? Are you retarded or something?

>>13225914

No it's not.

T. Been one for the last 3 years, never looked back.

>>13225914
Yes. The first goal is to get a stable remote job.
Then go nomad.

>>13225914
wireless internet is degeneracy

>>13226431
Please elaborate

>>13226210
Bangkok has decent internet and everyone is a tiny little nonviolent elf, very comfortable

>>13225914
>not even a thinkpad
Disgusting

>>13225914
Did it for a year. It's definitely not a meme but this >>13226193. I enjoyed it a ton but I enjoy being alone AND I'm good at meeting new people. Eventually I got a bit homesick, but it was one of the best times of my life. I met so many people, got to experience different countries in a non-touristy way and I grew a lot as a person (yes I know it's a bit of a normie meme, but I really did).

>>13226299
>Sun sets at 10 pm
>Finish at 4 or choose your own hours as a contractor
>Have weekends
>Don't have to work in a urban shithole
Ever since I visited the Rockies I've dreamed about living there. I never received wnted to leave

>>13226225
RV anon here. It's a good life. When I lived in a house I mostly sat in one spot anyway. So why not do the same in a motorhome?

>>13226528
>I grew a lot as a person
It is a normie meme because it's vague and it means fuck all. It's how dolts justify going on gap years to jerk off camels. Be more specific.

>>13226528
Grew how? Genuinely interested.

>>13226210
Singapoor a first world country. rofl

>>13225914
>digital noman

does forex trading fit in that box?

>>13225914

I work online and make about 50k a year. This is a business, not a full time work from home job. I could hop around from place to place if I wanted to but I don't. Since I started doing this 7 years ago I've lived in 3 cities total.

>>13226599
Better at dealing with people
Experience different cultures.
Negotiating
Social skills
Confidence
Dealing with unforseen problems

Come on it's not that difficult

>>13226676
What's your main bussines?

How do I get a comfy remote job if I'm retarded and have no skills?

>>13225914

It's not really a meme, but at the moment you are limited to a couple of things that are already overly saturated.

Plus, you will also meet a lot of insufferable rich kids from Europe and North America who call themselves Digital Nomads, but they're just one bad decision away from messing up their entire lives back at home (financially speaking).

It's becoming a meme now because so many people label themselves as being one, and they are the fan base of people like Tai Lopez.

>>13226210
How was it/what did you do? I really want to go to those exact places for this

How the fuck do you guys get into this

>t. DevOps scripter

I will learn whatever tech is popular to do this

>>13226683
>Come on it's not that difficult

Bugger off mate. You're doing the presentation, not me. My first thought before you wrote that was problem solving and social interaction and I also thought the "growth" would be similar to that of a challenging work environment, which you seem to confirm (with the possible exception of experience of other cultures). It also sounds similar to how my girlfriend speaks of the time when she used to be an escort.

>>13226755
that last sentence though

expand on it

>>13226683
>Better at dealing with people
At the bars and vegetarian restaurants where all the foreigners go.
>Experience different cultures.
At the capacity of any normie tourist.
>Negotiating
Convincing the tuk tuk driver to charge you the normal price instead of the 100% mark up.
>Social skills
Drunk slobbering with other drunk foreigners.
>Confidence
When drunk.
>Dealing with unforseen problems
Yeah, theres a lot of those that you'll be unprepared for.

>>13226767
What is there to say? The jokes - I've heard them all. It's behind her and I'm glad to be with her now.

>>13226776
right behind her

>>13226755
Amazin'. A tranny ex-escort gf.. Truly, you are living the dream.

>>13226755
Stay at home then. Enjoy.

>>13226439
the human race isnt ready yet for instant access to information and communication anytime anywhere

>>13226774
Stay at home then. Enjoy.

>>13225914
I could do it with my adsense income, but traveling is too dangerous anyway
It is safer to be at home NEET

>>13226776
>anon has kissed the mouth that used to suckle old man cock

>>13226825
suck me

>>13227014
literally every girl these days

>>13227028
>>13227014
Expanding on this, if you're really concerned about dick mileage then you have no business fishing in the current dating pool. After a rough start she basically made a living mainly off a handful of regulars, so in terms of numbers I'm guessing she will about average for the current generation of women.

I've been learning C / C++ and making meme-programs for the past two years whenever i'm not retail wage-cucking. How the fuck do I get a remote job so I can escape western society.

>>13226985
teach me your ways senpai.

I'm a sophomore in uni and I might really want to do this in my summer before senior year, or right after.

Now I'm a 6'4 210 white south african, if I were to go to southeast asia wouldn't I stick out like a sore thumb? And would that be a good or bad thing?

>>13227097
Imagine doing this level of mental gymnastics to rationalize dating a literal whore. Disgusting.

>>13227655
cope

>>13227522
that belly piercing is a total turnoff

>>13227097
Not judging. Did she let you know right away? How did you react when you found out? Does she continue to do it and if so how much does she pull a year?

>tfw dual EU/US citizen
I'm a third year in uni but I have zero debt and zero responsibilities tying me down to any one country, so even if it is a meme I'd be willing to do it after uni

>>13226755
>It also sounds similar to how my girlfriend speaks of the time when she used to be an escort.

>>13226774
Have sex

>>13225914
They accept you only if you are gay

>>13226550
What are your monthly expenses. Where abouts do you set up?

>>13229224
>having sexual relations with a girl you don't fully intend to marry
Not going to make it.

>>13226774
that bitter high school kid who thinks he's figured it out, shitting on everything while doing nothing

when's the last time you lived abroad for a year?
never
I did for several years (not as a digital nomad, and everything >>13226683 talks about is true, simply because everyday things (getting an appartment, a work permit, getting a new group of friends, organizing money transfers, opening a bank account) in another language, on your own , in a different culture forces you to deal with stuff, whether you feel like you're in over your head or not. Every little hassle is a breeze when you come
back.
t.lived and worked abroad for 5 years, I now have a job that require a high level of inter-personnal skills, which I attribute in great part to living abroad.

>>13225914
What is the point of being a digital nomad when you pay physical taxes back in your home country. A fucking meme. Unless a digital nomad = tax avoider who likes to travel.

>>13231153
>you pay physical taxes back in your home country
Only the US works this way.

>>13231153

Jesus Christ. If you're a digital nomad you pay the taxes in the country of the person who gives you the assignment. So even if I'm in a country where I can live off 200 USD a month I can make the wage of a first world country if that's where the job 'is'. And yes that means you pay first world taxes too but who gives a damn.

You think if I'm on my computer in goddamn Zimbabwe doing a job for say, a US company, that the local IRS is gonna come by for a percentage?

>>13225914
yes. it's mostly rich kids. if you want to work online you'll fight indonesians and filipinos for $4 / hour jobs. just travel on vacation, or teach abroad. china is good.

Heading off to do this for a while in September after getting out of the military. Aiming for a a year minimum. Any favorite countries from those who went? Eastern Europe vs SEA?

>>13231165
true. even then you just need to file, there are no federal taxes due unless you're making over $125k if i correctly recall. still worth it desu.

How do you work remote? Why would any company offer remote work?

>>13230759
those are literally basic life skills you described.
i was abroad for only a year but it was so much fun. two drawbacks:
1) women, end up wanting to go out every single night... plus even in the day you want to "do stuff" and no I was not anywhere in Asia.
2) I didn't work a job that requires too much internet, but the internet infrastructure was the other part that was a bit of a drawback. if i wanted to cut back on money i worked off of 3G or whatever internet dongle it was. Plus my laptop was shitty... so if I do it again have to make sure there's good internet and a decent space to work. it's a minor issue that is actually a big deal.

>>13231469
why not
it's all cost related

no office to maintain
bigger and cheaper labor pool (look at US companies hiring Canadians, automatic 30% discount)
employee's been around for years, performs the same at home, can keep him around at home and cut costs for both sides
not just backoffice jobs i've seen sales and bizdev work from home too, they go out and meet clients the difference is they just don't have to go into the office at all

>>13231469
>Why would any company offer remote work?
All the good workers won't accept anything less.

>>13228223
where?

>>13227522
Anons I need to know - I just looked at apartments in Bangkok for an hour and this is ABSURDLY cheap. On a regular freelancers' salary I could afford to:
>disappear for a summer
>work a few hours a day
>focus on personal development and getting extremely fit
>fuck a new girl on tinder every single day
>if not on tinder, escorts are probably absurdly cheap
This might be a move. Plus I wouldn't have to worry about getting mugged because I'm probably a foot taller than any native Thai dude.

>>13231551
You forgot the part where every criminal thai dude has the following: Muay Thai training from a young age, calves of steel from kicking bamboo trees, sharp as shit machetes, the soulless disregard for human life that's common amongst SE Asians, the eternal rage of a bitter cuck from all of their women fucking white tourists.

>>13231593
>the soulless disregard for human life that's common amongst SE Asians
You know who else has that?

Yep.

>>13231638
One day again, brother.

>>13226210
you literally chose the 2 most expensive places in asia. might as well have stayed in western europe or usa.

>being a digital nomad
>paying taxes
now in gods name tell me why would you ever want to do that.

I did it for 7 months or so and I’m about to do it again. What people don’t realise is that there’s a lot to be said for the status quo that you’re currently in, mentally speaking. If you’re not in a good place already it will truly amplify when you’re on your own in Korea, you can’t have any jokes or banter with the locals because there’s not shared language, taxi drivers won’t pick you up because you aren’t master race (even as a white person after 12mn).

All the problems you took into this thing will come gushing out and you’ve just got to deal with them. On the whole that’s a good thing and I’m glad I went through it but when you’ve had back to back tinder rejections, can’t drink with anyone, family and friends are asleep - it will hit you.

If you’re 100% a-ok then you’ll be alright but you have a lot of stability encoded into your routine whether you know it or not and it’s worth understanding that before you go into it. A beer at a beach bar talking to the loud Aussie cunts only has so much depth.

But with that being said, it was one of the better things I’ve ever done and I’m going to do it again while being in a much fitter shape mentally and I wouldn’t know who I was to the degree I actually do if I didn’t do the first trip.

Currently working aboard in glorious Nihon.

I work for an Australian company so the timezone difference isn't much and I do standups with my colleagues everyday. I make about 14000 USD a month as an IT consultant and will probably pay no tax on that.

I would love to do this. What lines of work apart from coding are able to be done remotely? Where do I find remote jobs and what skills do I need?

OP here, my question was coming more from a place of "you can do remote work, have a decent income while not having a 'job' where you have to go into the office every day for x hours", not really the travelling part

>>13226550
Most boomer post ITT

>>13231638
Soon brother

>>13232724
>14,000 usd a month
>Digital nomad

>>13231593
>>>13231551
>the eternal rage of a bitter cuck from all of their women fucking white tourists.

>all of their women

The only girls fucking white tourists are hookers, sluts and gold diggers. The other 99% of Thai women would never date a foreign tourist.

Protip: most women on dating sites are whores and gold diggers, tattoos are a dead giveaway

>>13233593
T. Incel

>>13232457
>thinking he can avoid taxes in the age of FATCA and CRS
Retard

>>13227522
>trust fund baby detected

>>13232724
Nice LARP

>>13226456
spot on, friendliness of chink elves was surpising to me as well, but the city is too dirty

>>13226456
kek same here in Saigon

>>13225914
Only works if you're white and you avoid shithole countries.

>>13229224
unironically best answer to anyone pushing the digital nomad meme
nobody in a relationship with someone they like has any desire to go be a faggot in whatever foreign country. too busy and too happy for that shit
being a digital nomad is basically like suicide: it's the easy way out, admission you can't make it and giving up your hopes for a better life, settling for "good enough"
i've more respect for unironical tendie neets than expats, and most of you feel the same way if you're honest with yourself (including digital nomads themselves)

I'm intending to move to some dying town, hopefully not too far from where I currently live.

In fact, I've been thinking about posting something like a "I'll live in your place for free," kind of thing. Surely someone who can't sell their worthless old home would rather have someone live there and do a little bit of upkeep, than just let it rot.

>>13233606
> conservative middle class good Thai women like to hang out at bars and fuck drunken foreign tourists
> their family, friends and community would never look down on their behavior, leaving them with a bad reputation and become completely unmarriageable

Kek, you have a lot to learn about Thailand and its culture

>>13233703
This is true

I had a big desire to be a digital nomad(hate that word) but now I found a sweet qt gf that I really like and the desire to go anywhere almost vanished completely.

>>13233768
Yeah I used to live there for work and just lmao at the retards thinking 95% of the girls that go for them are not the lowest rank of Thai sluts

>>13226836
i guess that would make me an alien then? last time i checked I have cellphone with internet access...

>>13226413
mfw I have a stable remote job that pays well....but have 3 kids, wife, and a mortgage.
sucks. digital nomad is my dream, but I'm too tied down now. If only I was 10years younger again.

>>13226715
you can't. sorry, but comfy remote jobs are for absolute chads with badass skills.

>>13231518
only right answer

>>13233768
Only Thai chick I've ever banged was solidly upper class, dad owns a giant engineering firm in Bangkok. She literally fucks every white dude. Just because Thai chicks don't show interest in your neck beard and micro penis doesn't mean they don't fuck any white dude with a shred of self respect for what they put in their stomach.

>>13234134
>>>13233768 (You)
> She literally fucks every white dude

Slut

>>13225914
Living in 2nd world country with low costs of living and low taxes, while earning a 1st world top blockchain programmer salary.

If I want I can take more jobs - master of my own time, no wagecage.

Remote freelancing is the ultimate jobpill.

>>13234009
This is sad isn't it?
I don't wanna end up like this...

>>13233593
>hookers, sluts and gold diggers.
Mate that IS 99% of Thai women.

>>13231518
This


The neckbeards typying away in the basement as usually the code monkeys if they haven't been outsourced already

>>13231469
If you're a web developer you can skype or facetime or w/e app they use these days for meetings. Some jobs don't require any physical interaction or meeting. And actually most big corporates will look to move offices to home where it is possible. It saves the company a lot of money not having to rent offices. There's a lot of benefits in having workers work remote, if it is possible then it usually saves a lot of money.

>>13233708
That sounds like an inexpensive way to live, but what is there to do in a dying town? What are you going to do for fun when you are not working? Jack off to Internet porn for hours? Also, the grocery stores in dying towns probably also suck big time (Kroger's).


It might be a good idea to try this when you are still young and healthy and can live out of a backpack with a laptop. I considered this years ago, but H1-B visa Indians driving down the pay killed that idea.

>>13234262
you will, whether or not you have a wife and kids. after 30, we spend the rest of our lives wishing we were 10 years younger.

>>13225914
Kind of. But I laugh at any pleb who never even tried it.
I still work away from the office every once in a while, because routine sucks. But the whole nomad-ing thing doesn't leave enough time for working, and you quickly learn to realise that.

>>13226776
You realise that your girl is an untrustworthy whore right? Jesus Christ the state of this generation

Digital Nomad here. Working as a software engineer with a company out in the bay area. Managed to jew my way into going to Berlin for 3 months, and now I'm in Southern California living a 5 minute drive from the beach.

>>13227097
Wrong there are still plenty of high quality women about you’re just lazy

>>13234515
>That sounds like an inexpensive way to live, but what is there to do in a dying town? What are you going to do for fun when you are not working?
what do you picture my life is like? I could live in the desert if I had my pc and the essentials.

>the grocery stores in dying towns probably also suck big time (Kroger's).
yeah, that is a problem.

>>13234188
>Besides you

>>13234550
Living in either of those places sounds awful

>>13234134
>there are no exceptions to the rule
I also have fucked Hi-So girls but most of the girls that will even talk to you will be trash.

>>13226550
Because the tv tells me that it's bad and i do not think for myself

>>13226755
> It also sounds similar to how my girlfriend speaks of the time when she used to be an escort

>>13234009
You would want to exchange away your family in order to be a rootless faggot nomad in some third world shithole?

>>13226299
>Working during the day.
>Not waking at 11am, enjoying your cup of coffee down by the river, taking a hike to explore the local scenery, maybe moving camp a mile or two upstream, and finally settling down to bust out a few articles around 9pm after the sun has gone down.
The tin box prison is in your mind, pleb.

>>13232673
Insightful comment.

>>13235534
if I wanted to do that, I would. that's not what I'm doing though. I would have loved the lifestyle when I was younger though, before I had a family. I was a world traveler for years, but I was a poor fag living out of a backpack. being able to live comfortably anywhere in the world for short stays sounds ideal.

Im N.E.E.T so everyday is like an ongoing vacation.

I remember working 40 hours a week and felt so much worse off mentally and physically, most of my money went towards things i never needed or used. My quality of life has improved significantly

My parents own their own home though so your mileage may vary.

>>13234489
You lose a lot of effectiveness when collaborating though...It's way easier to walk over to someone and have a 5 minute chat than trying to talk over something like Slack.

>>13235746
I don't really think money makes that much difference when travelling young and the amount of fun you can have

poorfag traveller living out of a backpack with infinite free time > remote wagecuck that exchanged the office for a coworking space and having no time to actually enjoy the new locations

>>13231593
lol no. White men have poor tastes in Thai women.

>>13226620
>>13226599

What's hard to understand. I did the same thing and I felt like I grew as a person.

I went from hardcore political nut to a mellowed out laid back person
I went from nervous virgin to sexually confident and with a gf
I changed my goals in life
The new perspective on life helped me appreciate things I didn't know I had, and also to be aware of the good things other cultures have we don't
I became less "in my ways" in terms of how I thought and saw the world
Made a lot of new friends
Did a ton of cool things and gained stories I can recount to others
Made me more socially confident and experienced and more cultured
I went from being depressed about the shit state of the world, to happy that there are a lot of good places out there and the world isn't as bad as the media and internet make it out to be

All this sorta stuff is called growing as a person.

>>13233703
>>13233836

>letting a woman cuck you out of having an interesting life

I got a gf and it was fun for a few months, but then I felt like she was holding me back. I wanted to go explore the world again. So I broke up with her. Now I just fuck girls and have flings, I don't get into long term relationships, they just tie you to places. Someone who'd let themselves become tied down are just cuck faggots.

>>13227522
>wouldn't I stick out like a sore thumb? And would that be a good or bad thing?

No there are tons of white people in Thailand dude. And if you did stick out it would be a good thing.

>>13227655
Hey anon, when is the last time you had sex?

>>13225914
doing 6 figures working remote. i lived the digital nomad life for a couple of years, and desu its overrated.

life is way better when u find a paradise where the US dollars can get u anything

>>13237204
>t. rootless kike afraid of having a family

>>13238366
>life is way better when u find a paradise where the US dollars can get u anything
Like what?

>>13238414

I'm white and people who fall for the wife and kids meme are plebs.

>>13225914
Sounds neat. What are some jobs that allow for this?