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My gears are grinding. u?

Please delete this thread.
SAGE IN ALL FIELDS

Weird how people have no interest in this. Why is that?

>>13222650
everyone still here is either a blockstream shill or a shitcoiner pumping their bags. either way they are the sworn enemy of Dr. Craig Wright. although he still has a few based white autist friends on this board

>>13222650
>Why is that?
Lots of dullards around these parts, + the burgers are awake. Post take a intellectual nose dive after noon!

>>13222650
>>13222664
how about you give some sources instead of little screenshots with vague information on it. as usual you're just coming across as deluded worshippers as neither you or CSW never can give any good sources, any proofs or even have a decent discussion about any of this shit.

>why is that
Because you are larping faggots like /x maybe? Go summon your tulips u fags.

>>13222664
So at best Craig was some shithead hanger on ideas guy, contributing nothing to the Satoshi group.

>>13222694
Craig Wright vs Ira Kleiman lawsuit.

https://www.scribd.com/document/403759392/Kleiman-Wright-discovery-meeting-transcript

Funny how neither the defendants, NOR THE PROSECUTION denies Craig being involved in the creation of Bitcoin. This is the key takeaway of the court proceedings so far.

The prosecution merely argues that some of the Satoshi coins that Craig is in possession of, belong to deceased Dave Kleiman. His greedy Jew family wants some of those nice Satoshi bucks that Craig has.

THE FACT THAT CRAIG IS SATOSHI IS IMPLICIT IN THE LAWSUIT!

Do you brainlets get it yet????

>>13223193
If he doesn't have the private keys, he isn't satoshi. Stop trying hard retard and take this tale to leddit or twatter, we, as a hive mind, don't care about this utterly piece of dry cum

>>13223193
>he never mined bitcoin
Not satoshi

>>13223275
If Craig doesn't have the private keys, why is Ira Kleiman suing him to get ownership of some of the Satoshi coins? Your statement makes no sense.

Cope harder assblasted shill.

>>13223293
He never mined Bitcoin WITH Dave Jewman.

Therefore Jewman family has no right to any of Craig's mined coins, the Satoshi coins. They are his.

>>13223316
Oh ok

>>13223275
>biz
>hive mind

sure buddy, my trading is also completely based on opinions of the hive minded pajeet shill shitcoin cotton picker forum.

Every non-brainlet is all in BSV at this point.

>>13223297
If he owns the private keys, why doesn't he sign a message to dispel all doubt that he is satoshi nakamoto.

>>13223297
Get bought them in an auction from the feds after Sr
He's a phoney

>>13223360
Why don't you just get the hell out of this thread? You are clearly a brainlet

>>13222694
>give some sources
DYOR faggot. I am getting rich off market information asymmetry why would I help you in any way

>>13223360
Why do you think he owes you anything? He has a right to financial privacy like everyone else. He doesn't owe you shit.

>>13223361
>Get bought them in an auction from the feds after Sr
>He's a phoney

Maximum cope.

>>13223377
He is trying to prove that he is satoshi. Why does he not use the simplest and most convincing way to prove it?

>>13223377
I'm not conviced he is satoshi but, what would happen if suddenly everyone knew that he was in fact satoshi? He'd get murdered.

>>13223452
He unironically has body guards

>>13223398
He is not trying to prove anything, he never wanted to prove his identity in public.

Ira Kleiman is trying to steal his coins through a lawsuit, so now he is forced to prove that they are in fact his coins, and they never belonged to Dave.

>>13223452
Meant for>>13223398

>>13222664
>dr.

Satoshi being revealed defeats the entire purpose of permissionless, censorship resistant, decentralized, high powered money. The real satoshi would be smart enough to understand from the start that if bitcoin succeeded he would have to live with not being able to take credit for it.

>>13223465
So why does he claim that he is satoshi all the fucking time everywhere? Don't you understand how stupid it would be to say that you're satoshi and then not deliver when you are asked for proof?

Personally, I don't give a shit who he is, but if he doesn't want to prove it he should just shut up about it already. To me, his actions are those of someone who is not satoshi and is trying to fool everyone to be able to profit from satoshi's name. Unless he signs the message he will remain nothing but a fraud.

Actions like pic related also point in the direction of a fraud.

I think it is much more likely that Hal Finney was satoshi, since it was only after his death that Craig started claiming to be satoshi. The only logical explanation for Craig claiming to be satoshi but then not proving it is that he knows satoshi is dead and won't come back to call him out on it.

>>13223503
Now Monero will take bitcoin's place

It’s also weird how CSW is against monero. On bitcointalk I remember reading satoshi talking about how to make tx more private.

>>13223522
forgot the pic

>>13223522
I dont like they guy, but maybe thst's what he wants. To appear an impostor

>>13223537
well, mission fucking accomplished

>>13223530
Privacy, not anonymity. It's a big difference. Satoshi explains it best himself:
https://medium.com/@craig_10243/the-false-lure-of-anonymity-110a35088979

>>13223465
Nah you really think the creator of bitcoin only has the coins that ira Klienman is after. he’d have mined bitcoin a lot and have wallets that in no way could be traced back to “the creator”. That’s why he put 1 million in a wallet. He knew people would always keep an eye on it and they were dead the moment he did it.

>>13223560
You really believe CSW is playing 4D chess and went back and purposefully edited a blog post to make it look like he’s trying to be an imposter?

>>13223560
Explained succinctly in pic related

>>13223522

>>13223607
You can prove the source of funds with monero. It’s called a view key.

>>13223621
Read—>>>13223606

>>13223607
Doesnt fungibility require NOT knowing the source of funds?

>>13223621
Like I said, don't want to prove it? Then Shut up about it. Want to claim that you're Satoshi? Prove it.

Undeniable proof he is not who he claims

Satoshi - Asian name
Craig - white guy

We can stop this silly debate now

>>13223607
Stop giving this buffoon attention, its so tiresome

>>13223637
Craig has an interest in muddying the waters and maintaining plausible deniability whether he is Satoshi or not. He has no interest in becoming widely known as Satoshi to the general public, there are many negative consequences to this. Unwanted attention, sycophantic adulation, threats, a barrage of constan media coverage, trolls, sychophants, leeches, opportunists, organized criminals, interest from State actors, fake news machinery, EVERYONE watching his every move, and the markets reacting to everything he says.

The problem is that meanwhile feels the need to prove his identity as Satoshi to certain individuals in PRIVATE, so key people agree to work with him on the premise that he is in fact the real inventor. It's the difference in managing public versus private proof, so he can take advantage of the benefits of being Satoshi in business life, while at the same time keeping obscurity in the public. It's a balancing act that he is managing to get the outcomes that he wants.

There is enough evidence already in the public sphere to know for certain that he is Satoshi, but it takes intelligence and discernment to reach that conclusion. I think Craig is perfectly content with this arrangement - it's like an IQ filter for his followers - only those smart enough to "get it" will want to work with him.

>>13223621
ABSOlute horseshit.

only underage would believe garbage dribble like that

>>13223621
based
i hope willy is right and it goes down to 20-30 dollars
gonna make it for sure

>>13223747
you forgot sycophantic adulation by sycophants, creg

>>13223747
>He has no interest in becoming widely known as Satoshi
Anon, I...

>>13223693

>>13223747
This is exactly what I was talking about the other day, he is trying to exploit the "most people don't agree with me, therefore I'm smarter" idea. He's appealing to misfits that will believe they are some sort of chosen elite for believing in his bullshit. It's no different from a cult, and we have seen how far the followers of a cult leader will go in their zeal. If a good leader can exploit this idea of being special to get people to kill themselves en-masse, why are we so surprised that he manages to get some people to invest in his coin using these tactics?

>>13223747
This. Its rare to find a non brainlet on this retarded board. Enjoy your future wealth anon.

>>13223747
I really want to believe this is real. If this is true, how come big whales or wealthy known peopme don't realize this?

>>13223852
most of these big whales are too invested in their own little rent-seeking companies or blockchains that BSV will render completely irrelevant

>>13223852
I really want to believe this is real and the aliens are really contacting us to take us to their planet. Why don't people believe us when we tell them that all they have to do is kill themselves? Who don't they realise that the earth is going to explode and this is the only way they can save themselves? Please, reassure me, brother.

>>13223870
How come any big (((Twitter)))) crypto celebrity has come out to shill for BSV. Only people I see are money button and unwriter

>>13223895
Go back to R

>>13223870
Explain to me how BSV will catch up with most projects with actual repo activity and legions of devs, without using “muh patents”. I will wait. Remember that even if Craig was part of Satoshi, he was the ideas man and couldnt code shit.

>>13223913
>crypto celebrity

Most of them are retards and paid. They are influencers, would you take investemt advice from Kim Kardashian? This is exactly what you are doing if you listen to Twitter celebrities.

>>13223963
Ok then. How would you measure bsv adoption and organic growth apart from Price action?

man these threads used to be kinda entertaining but it has gotten so pathetic and boring im just gonna peace out

>>13223979
Have your (You) and don't come back , bye.

>>13223792
If you think he is anything like a cult leader, then he really fucking bad at it.

>>13223976
Blocksize over time and number of tx over time. Price is probably the worst indicator in a purely speculative universe and only brainlets use it to argue.

Also keep an eye on the stuff being built on the SV chain.

>>13223976
Volume in exchanges
Public development activity
Profitable mining
Results superior to existing solutions
And those are just a few that will never happen.

>>13224011
>volume in exchanges

You realize >90% volume is from wash trading?

>>13224004
>appealing to your being special
>no evidence but you should trust the leader
>no one else understands it, they're not intelligent enough
Yes, it's a cult.

>>13224032
Would you mind posting a pic of your hand?

>>13222650
wtf why would they do that to the elk? fuck is wrong with meat eaters. just fucking shoot him in the head sadistic faggots

>>13224098
pls be bait

>>13224139
look i have no problems with people killing to eat meat (personally i dont eat meat) but why the fuck would you make it suffer? just fucking kill it quick, fucking amateurs

>>13224032

How is it a cult exactly? Do you even have the slightest idea what a cult is and how it operates?

Craig doesn't even want a community around him, in fact he goes out of his way to talk shit about the crypto community, and actively prevents one being built up around him. You can choose to learn from him or not, your free choice. He fosters business relationships and partnerships with like minded people, that's not a cult.

A cult necessitates there being mechanisms to stop people from leaving your ideological space, through the exercise of social consequences for leaving, criticizing or exposing the community. Excommunication of family members, derision, harassment, corporal abuse and things like that.

Furthermore, cults go out of their way to shield members from critical or novel information that could break the ideological spell and have rules established to govern social behavior. Snitching, surveillance, tribunals, disciplinary actions, punishments, pledges, etc.

Following a personality on twitter and reading their medium articles has nothing to do with a cult lmao fucking brainlet

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2765PgtHkVk
imagine not buying sv

>>13224166
>Craig doesn't even want a community around him.
Then why is he and his inner-circle non-stop campaigning about his being satoshi, even going as far as suing people for denying it and whatnot? Why did he name his shitcoin "satoshi's vision" if it's not all supposed to circle around his identity?
>A cult necessitates there being mechanisms to stop people from leaving.
No, it doesn't at all. Some cults do have this, some don't. For cults that are not doing anything immediately punishable by the law this is not a requirement.
>Cults go out of their way to shield members.
Not really, no. Generally people that join a cult have the same information as everyone else, they are just conned into believing that all information is wrong and that the cult is the only reliable source of information. This fills the cult members with a sense of pride, for being the only ones intelligent of wise enough to see the truth.

>>13224272
>>13223372

>>13224289
Because I am tired of seeing 20 Creg threads every fucking day here and I want people to know that he is a fraud so that the non-stop shitcoin shilling show stops. Without people like me he might be able to attract more acolytes to his cult. I'd hate to see this happen.

>>13224272
You are too low IQ to entertain, sorry.

>>13224313
The people who you are attempting to convince are 10 steps ahead of you and 30 iq points above you. You are not entitled to a free lunch.

>>13224313
what are you some kind of whiteknight? lmao. the only thing you or anyone here wants to do is pump and dump coins to increase fiat. fucking pleb

>>13221951
>>13221968
Bsv price is all like "Braap Braap"

>>13224318
Then stop replying to my messages.
>>13224334
I'm not trying to convince anyone, the people shilling in this thread are already beyond salvation. All I'm trying to do is hinder your shilling.
>>13224369
Not exactly. Usually I wouldn't give a flying fuck about some random fraud. It's seeing 50 threads a day shilling this shitcoin that has triggered me into it.

Funny how today it's a few of you in this thread. Generally you don't gather more than 2 or 3 per thread. Is today shilling day in your discord channel or something?

>>13223788
checked

he's a con artist
real satoshi is dead
/thread

>>13221951
if anybody wonders what >>13222650 was it was a webm of an animal bleeding out:
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