/biz/ - Business & Finance

African American studies

video games studies

cock sucking studies

I study cyber security and believe it should be up a tier

>information systems

Not even on the chart. Should I just kill myself /biz/?

I am an electrical engineer.

Its the lamest fucking job ever. Do not go into electrical engineering. Boring as fuck. Should be suicide tier.

>>1316576

I studied Philosophy

I would definitely agree it's shit-tier

Military is definitely NOT shit-tier if you do something good. I know someone who's an officer in the Royal Engineers. That's a pretty great job.

>>1316664
I'm actually about to do it. What's so boring about it? Don't want to kill myself

>>1316664

What do you do in it?

>>1316676
>>1316678
I design data centers and other small data rooms. You do CAD drawings, write specifications, spec out equipment and just deal with bullshit.

Most of it has to do with my salty attitude toward corporate garbage. But it can't be entirely me, because pretty much everyone I know has gotten out of engineering after a few years. A lot of them are in related roles, but no longer do actually engineering because its painfully fucking boring and repetitive.

I've left twice, but have had to go back because I went broke. Hopefully the third time will be the last.

>>1316695

As I posted earlier, I'm in information systems and have wanted to go into data warehouse design. Am I likely to encounter the same kinds of problems doing that?

>>1316703
The IT side of it is probably much more interesting than the infrastructure side, but I don't know much about IT stuff.

If you are interested in infrastructure, this white paper pretty much lays everything out. http://www.pueda.ch/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Uptime_Institute_Data_Center_Tier_Classification_5th.pdf

The only recommendation I have for anyone is go into computer programming. It offers the most flexibility of any field I know, while still offering decent pay. But I feel like computer programming might be in a little bit of a bubble now - kind of like the oil jobs were before the bust.

>>1316576
>geophysics god
>geophysics good

hitting a metal plate with a hammer and measuring velocity is retard-tier

>>1316719

Ok, thanks. That seems much more like the physical infrastructure side of things than logical design and requirements analysis, which is where I think my strengths lie.

I know everybody's into programming now, but I can't seem to work up any particular enthusiasm for it. I'm studying SQL, Java and Python but to me they're just means to an end rather than something I could see myself doing full time.

CS, first year

>>1316728
I hear ya. I started to take one of those udacity programming courses to change fields into programming and got bored with that too. I'm too old to go into programming now.

>>1316734

If you know your engineering nuts and bolts but don't want to actually do it, why not go into tech consulting? A friend of mine did EE and is now making bank as a consultant for Telstra (big telecomms company here in Australia).

>>1316744
I mentioned almost everyone I know has left engineering - they have left for those types of jobs.

I have a super spotty career history now, so my options are limited. Employers hate the excuse "I quit my job to pursue day trading." I won't last much longer doing this shit. I'm about to the point where I would rather make 10 bucks an hour at a pizza shop than do this shit.

>>1316695
>>1316719
>>1316664
Should've gone to grad school, cuck. I'm busy making quantum computers and shit

>>1316757
If you enjoy it good for you.

>>1316762
Fair enough, if you don't enjoy the field, you don't enjoy the field. But I think writing off EE as the "lamest fucking job ever" is somewhat extreme. It demonstrates that salary/prestige/whatever is no fucking way to choose your career, and I'm sorry it didn't work out for you.

My sympathies, anon.

>>1316576
I'm finishing med school this year

>>1316768
I am very biased I admit. I also have experience in only a portion of the field. But I can't recommend anyone go into a field similar to mine. Quantum computing may be fun. Data center infrastructure is not.

Yes, I am very salty.

>Studied anthropology
>got job in sales
>learned to code and became a marketing consultant.
>genuinely enjoy my job and make six figures at the same time
>make more then all the cucks my age

College major is literally a meme. All you need to do is figure out what you're good at and then use that to make money.

>>1316768
>prestige

Prestige is such a bullshit normie concept. Can you eat prestige? Can prestige keep me warm or pay off my bills? Do what it takes to make money. If a pornstar makes more money then you, that literally proves that society finds this person more valuable to you. "prestige" is how normies cope with mediocre.

"A..at least I'm a doctor! so what If I have to wait ten years before I make money, America despises me and my patients don't trust me. I have prestige!"

"S...so what If I have 500k worth of student loans I have to pay for law school. I'm a big fancy lawyer now! Sure I'm getting a shit salary to do shit work for 80 hours a week but I have prestige!!!"

>>1316798
>If a pornstar makes more money then you, that literally proves that society finds this person more valuable to you.

Are you Jewish by any chance?

don't know where else to post so this will have to do

Current situation
>18
>living with mom
>just graduated
>have no idea what I want to do
>been working at a restaurant making $9.50/h
>have $3k saved
>just got $10k from an insurance accident
>gf going off to college in the fall
>want to go to college i guess but i really cant decide what to get into
>I like working with computers and stuff, I've built my own

Plan
>keep saving from working @ restaurant
>start investing in mutual fund early
>hope to eventually become financially independent
>would like to get into college but idk what to get into, someone please help

>>1316838
>start investing in mutual fund early
>3k
>9.5/hr

from one bro to another, forget any notion of investing right now. concentrate on developing literally any other skill. if you get a job at 30k/yr right now, youll make more than a decade of your current "ivnestment" strategy.

get a different job, and get gud at it

>>1316838
Look here

>>1316852
This, if you want to invest, see it as a hobby, not as a means of getting wealthy. The wealth part will come later after you become skilled in something.

>>1316838

>I like working with computers and stuff

Computer engineering student here. CE isn't like building computers, but, if you want to learn how they work then do CE. Secure job, good pay, respected by other people, you aren't stuck with computers, you will be valuable in other roles like programming (if you learn a few more languages than what college teaches you), finance people like all engineering students, but, especially the "hard" Engineers like CE, EE, ChemE, Aero, etc.

You probably won't learn much about computers in first year other than maybe an intro to Computer science or some intro to programming classes. But, it gets real heavy on the electrical part of Computer Engineering in 3rd and 4th year. It is challenging, but, rewarding.

2 year I.T. program at a shitty community college, making bank now.

>>1316576
>triple major in 3 God-tiers
Feels good

>>1316902
heyy, i really enjoy working hands on, i could maybe see myself getting into coding but my thing is math isnt my strong field. Is there a lot of math when working in CE?

I was wondering another thing with the $10k that I just received from the insurance thing, im assuming the best thing rn would be to pay for my education instead of investing, I want to start earning good money im just at a loss figuring out how to do it :/

Got an MA in international relations. The field is riddled with nepotism.

I'm working in digital marketing now.

>>1316798
>he doesn't understand how a market works

Pornstars make money because there aren't that many people willing to degrade themselves on camera. There are more people with the potential to become a doctor or a lawyer than there are attractive people willing to film their gaping asshole.

Compensation doesn't translate into the significance of your work, it only measures how replaceable you are.

>>1316983
International Relations student here...

I feel you bro, I like my field but hell nepotism is strong, if you don't meet the right people or you don't want to suck some dinosaurs balls during uni you can forget of being anything but a teacher really

might as well learn to code and go freelance IT

Mathematician here. I wish I did more CS or Computer Engineering.

>>1316576
Math & Economics w/ CS minor (also working on CFA Level 1)

>>1316576
Psychology. Im going to med school though

>>1316976
without a doubt pay for your education over investing. There is 0 chance that you will be able to beat the loans interest rate as well as the compounding interest that you will be subject to if you don't pay it off.

Also, the time saved from being fixated on the markets.

Yes, there is math. I HAVE to take atleast 3 math classes as well as 2 pure physics classes.

Once you learn that math, the math in your electrical classes and other stuff you learn in CE is relatively easy.

If you reckon you could handle the quantitative stuff in CE or any E really, I would recommend you go for it. But, if you can't, go for programming. Not SoftE, if you did SoftE you will be doing math classes as well.

I suggest you learn programming at a programming boot camp if you want to programming. There isn't that much hands on stuff other than circuits and some other things. You will get to do a fair few labs stuff just in the intro physics and engineering units.

>>1317334
Mexibro quant dude

Economics major here, i genuinely enjoy it, and couldn't see myself studying anything else. But reading /biz/ makes me paranoid since it's considered meme tier here. People irl seem impressed I guess and the stats show its pretty up there for median salary.

Veterinary school, specializing in fish.

Studied business management in a university outside of the top 20.

Got loads of offers before I even graduated, now work in a telecommunications company as a sales manager. I earn above the average wage in the country and it's only my second job. Job was Chinese-speaking only which I learned in China when living there for two years.

Literally easy mode.

Barely tried in the degree, did my dissertation in two days, got a first honours.

2L in law school.

Currently double majoring in Philosophy & Political Science with a minor in Criminal Justice, History, & Ethics. I plan on attending law school.

>Want to study broadcast and media
>Too unrealistic
>Want to go into forensics
>Mediocre at genetics
>Want to study to become mortician
>Hard practice to get into
>Offered job that pays well and has benefits
>Goverment construction

>>1316576
nigger studies
>i don't study at all
>I don't even go to school
>I barely got past primary

>>1316576

Why on Earth is Transportation ranked so low?

Transport planning isn't that bad, it's just a pretty regular professional job writing policy. I work in the field and everybody I know earns a decent wage, roughly the same as your average solicitor or engineer.

Media studies and what?

God tier standing by. I've studied medicine.

I regret not studying economics and finance.

>>1316646
Isn't that just the business branch of Comp Sci?

I wouldn't worry, I hear they make good money.

I just studied regular comp sci. Now I need to find someone who will hire a guy with 2.2 Bachelours with Honours. (That's pretty meh by the by)

basic electrical engineering, hope i don't have to soon enough with bitcoin going to the moon

>>1317658
>broadcast and media
>Too unrealistic
Why unrealistic?

>>1316576
Networking is ez, and it will be a stable industry for many years to come.

>>1316576
Optometry

>>1316576
Accounting as great tier? I think it's for meh tier what do other /biz/ think

>>1316576
Seriously architectiture meh tier and good tier you're kidding me why it's on both tier

>>1316576
Applied Mathematics here, looking to do a MSc in Financial Mathematics. Is there anything I can do in finance that ISN'T being a quant?

Joke's on you my job is too shitty to even get on the list.

>>1318018
look into consulting

>>1318027
I've thought about this. What kind of "consulting" do they expect mathematicians to do?

>>1318042
either analyze data or Just bullshit businesses that hire you. Management consulting is a field that takes people in with any kind of degree, so the consulting you will be doing is the same as the consuting and english major would be doing, do an internet search. and harass your professors about what kind of jobs the other math masters students did after graduation. there are plenty of in the field of operations research. so do some internet research.

>>1318016
>>1316576
this, why is it there twice?

>>1317931
Not too many good media outlets on the east coast besides way up north.

>>1316976
Senior CmpE major here. You might want to watch out if you aren't good at math. Depending on where you go math may be intense at times, and with any good program it should. Just know that if you decide to go in that direction. Not that hard work can't overcome it, just know you would have to work at it if your math isn't strong.

IT isn't awful and still related to computers. Every company now has a network and needs people to manage it. A friend of mine, equally as smart as I am and capable of doing the math for CmpE, started out as CS but changed to IT. He works for a consulting company that manages IT services for several businesses.

Currently studying economics, but for now I'm finishing up my gen ed credits at CC so I guess I'm not REALLY studying it yet. So far I've only taken intro to micro and macro Econ, does the difficulty spike at the 2XX and 3XX level classes?

>>1316756

Dude, just join the SW (dark) side. We have cookies.

t. CompE working in SW

>>1316576
Philosophy and now I'm in the military.
I have like 2 bills, and 30k savings a year,

Kinesiology BS, one or two more semesters

Plan to attend Occupational Therapy school or Orthotics & Prosthetics, but the latter has turned out to be more of a cash grab.

Otherwise, god help me, maybe get a cert in sonography/ultrasound or something

>>1318471
Yes. I breezed through Intro and passed Intermediate econs without attending class, utterly failed econometrics.

Econometrics, you just have to pay attention during and work at. Don't be like me.

Intermediate Micro/Macro were some of my favorite courses. Econometrics is one of my least favorite.

>>1318531
Also; Economics, but I left school because I couldn't afford it and was a retard about how I went about going and had to move out of state temporarily.

Am taking off til I get back home, am taking some edx.org CS classes. Will probably go for a Comp Sci/Econ degree.

How the hell is foreign languages suicide tier?

>>1318527
Also, no bio or chem majors in here? I've found a lot of people here are into math, so that makes sense

>>1318016
architecture is as dead as dead can be. work is scarce, people honestly dont give a damn about architects, and the amount of proposals vs jobs is absolutely insane.

you can always get a job as a 13/hr cadmonkey though, so i suppose thats something

>>1318531
>>1318535

Thanks for the advice /biz/ bro. I'm not all that good when it comes to mathematics, so I'll try to read up on econometrics to prepare myself.

>>1316576
IR, master in international relations?

did you know there are Neets on here RIGHT NOW that will be getting rich investing in meme altcoins and will have had to never worry about picking a major, studying, cost of living etc

Neets who are buying Trumpcoin RIGHT NOW will be the ones you future waiters will be waiting on.

>>1317048
>>1316983

Im applying for a bachelor in international environment and development Studies (3years) which then leads to a master in international relations (2 years)

With that + working experience in developing countries and knowing the language of the dev. country, how hard would it be to apply for a job in the embassy down there?

tl;dr IR master, 4 languages, applying for a embassy job (work my way up from bottom), how hard?

>>1318540
am also curious about this

>>1318540
>>1318793
won't lead to a job

>no Quant Math in Unbelievable tier
discarded

>>1316727
You can generalize any major like that.

>>1319169
'quant math'?

what would non-quant math be exactly?

>>1318018
yup... in fact you're more likely to not be a 'quant' with that degree and no phd

plenty of mid office jobs in risk, finance etc...

quant dev roles in IT etc... too

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/substance/

>>1318042
in the context of a financial maths masters then working for a financial software vendor and configuring their software at client banks. Can involve working on new implementations, upgrades, enhancements etc.. you need to understand the financial products, pricing etc.. how your software prices stuff, how you configure some new security in the software, how to set up swap curves etc.. basically you become a jack of all trades

>>1316576
philosphy grads statistically make a pretty solid mid career income. this is a meme chart.

Currently working on an applied math degree from a top 5 school in mathematics. Is it meme tier? I have heard horror stories about applied math people unable to find work, even out of really good schools.

ain't a finance degree from unranked uni
deemed

useless?

Environmental science at an Ivy League school. Pretty comfy

>>1319926
gl with that

>>1319911
disproportional number of autistic types on those courses... if there are lots of people struggling to find work it is probably down to their autistic traits rather than the degree itself which is obviously rather useful

Maths. Going Year 2
Still can't decide between App. Math or Stats.

>>1316576
Anyone here in actuarial science or have any experience with it? Not sure if I should do some kind of good engineering (chem, computer, electrical) or actuarial science. Is the actuarial field as saturated and boring as fuck as I hear a lot? Can I do other shit with an actuarial degree or should I just major in stats or something?

>>1320607
I'm pretty sure you will still need to get the actuarial certification/exams from those actuarial organisations. Heck, if you want to be an actuary, just pass those exams.

Just major in something else

Doing carpentry at community college

R8

>>1316576
nursing (-:

>>1316664
>THIS
I make decent money, but MEP drawings are a slow boring death.
How many times are we going to do the same formula today? just 45 times before lunch
Boss wants it changed for no reason?
Sure. We'll just redo 2 weeks of work for it again
Oh? We're in a time crunch because boss changed too many things before deadline and it's our fault?
Guess we won't be going home for another 6 hours every day this month.
Engineering is autism tier. If you don't have autism, it's a slow and painful suicide.

I switched my major from Marketing to Finance, did I make the right choice?

What should I learn in University?
My 2 broadest topics I can think of are computer science (programming?) and finance.

Which one is more likely to not make me a wage slave?

I am getting a taste now about the wage cuck life, and I hate it. (let's say it's a "contract" job and I have like 2 and some years left)

Finishing up a history degree. I was considering going for my PHD right after school but the job market for college educators, particularly in the humanities is fucking horrid.

Thinking about going after an MBA in finance or something. My grandfather thinks I should go teach english somewhere for a year because it will 'look good'.

>>1320414
What sort of jobs could I expect? My goal is to end up completing an MFE program after my bachelors and then get into the finance/banking industry.

>>1320939
fucking teach middle school. theyre always hiring, and if you dont go postal, youll make a living.

try not to kill the students

>>1320939
why the fuck would you get a humanities degree?

>>1318613
in america

I have been a RN for 6 years now, 3 of those years I work in Palliative care. If you are the work to live type Nursing is great and everything about nursing is flexible.

Penalties, Overtime and no salarycuck shit. I work 3 nights-4 days off, 10 hour shifts over the weekend - racking in about approx 1500 a week ++ Fringe benefits . Nights, nothing drastic really happens, every patient is sedated, in fact I am posting on 4chan at 5am.

I live in area where rent is extremely low and next to my work. I just play video games or goto the gym 4-5 times week.

>>1316576
Particle Physics
I'm surprised to see it so high on a /biz/ chart though, researchers don't earn a whole lot here in the EU or anywhere.
I suppose this is about some other job physicists apparently do?

Automotive eng, I've worked for 2 brand name car companies already and haven't even finished 3rd year.

Is foreign languages really so terrible? At least you're providing a service if you become a translator or interpreter.

>>1321011
I fell for the "do what you love and you'll find a way to make money" meme.

My main concern is that I'm a type 1 diabetic and I can only be on my parents insurance for so many more years. I've also had the good fortune to have a dad who owns a pharmacy.

>>1321162
keep looking! it is your attitude that makes that degree a meme. Don't you have a portfolio, projects something that demonstrates your skills?

what the fuck are you good at? and learn to bull shit. people you should be able to get a job.

>>1316790
This.

My problem is I need to try more things. Hopefully I'll land this job and it'll help.

Civil eng
>enter uni
>3 semesters later there is a huge corruption scandal in my country involving the biggest construction companies
>economy tanks
JUST
U
S
T

>>1321345
I'm very analytical and a good public speaker, I get on well with practically every one I meet or work with. I'm not as good as I should be at managing my money, trying to improve.

Turning 21 in 2 weeks and I've been working since I was 15. 2 movie theatre jobs, 1 retail, 3 times a waiter. Currently working as an "engaged life program instructor" and waiter at a Senior independent living community where I'm well liked and teach a history class to the residents once a week.

I'm told a history degree is one of the most flexible.

Follow your passion is just as much a meme as do what you love (unless you are rich)

Knowing people who can employ you > networking and enjoying your youth > developing marketable skills > acquiring a certain qualification.

No serious industry is gonna care if you enter by age 20 or 25 or even 30. Also you will most likely only apply 10% of the stuff you learned, and most jobs will be painfully dull and repetitive.

>>1316664
T H I S
It's stable and fine if you are an immigrant but oh gosh the boredom of entry-level jobs.

Design circuit. Soldier parts. Test under oscilloscope. File tech report.

OR

Design antenna using cad software. Optimise said antenna for perfect gain. Test antenna in anechoic chamber. File tech report.

OR

Automate lab equipment. Measure latest diodes IV curve. File tech report

>26
>have no idea what to do with my life
>don't want to get a degree and just work, want to do something interesting with it
>decide to try elec eng because my brother-in-law does it, and it seems like I can get into the research side of it
>don't get in because some documentation issues, have to try again next year
>having major doubts again
Fuck me I hate being so uncertain about this stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2jE2aDPUnU

>>1316576
Physics, motherfucker. Heading into my 3rd year. I'm scared.

>>1318683
You know, anything's possible, but it just rings so false when you put it that way? I mean, can't you hear how dissonant and off-key you sound?

It's kind of like, yeah ok sure thing buddy.

>>1316664
isn't this true for any office job?

In my country (Sweden) there is only one business degree. We simply call it "Business and economics" and you can specialize in either business or economics. Then, you can specialize in finance, accounting, marketing, commerce law, economic history, macro etc. How do you rank that?

>>1321408
http://chronicle.com/article/Liberal-Arts-Majors-Have/236749
http://chronicle.com/article/Why-New-Humanities-PhDs/236528

you should save up your money in case you need to relocate to get a better job, also hit up your old college network, the least you can probably get is a sales job and move your way up.

It wouldn't hurt to learn some other more technical skill.

Also you can try to become a lobbyist. I am trying to think of jobs that fill the description of "professional convincer." you should also consider going abroad.

good luck, I admire you for pursuing what you love.

>>1321588
That's pretty shit tier.
There's wayy too much information in those sectors
to put it all under one degree. USA #1 for a reason

Getting an AA in comp Sci then gonna do either CS/Math, CS/physics, math/physics, or computational math

BS in EE, do freelance PCB design and run a small IT company.

>>1316576
I'm an info systems major going into my junior year. Does anyone know how good the job market is for IT, and if it is bad or the pay is mediocre, will I be better off improving my my coding skills than trying to work and stay in the field?

>>1316576
BSEE/MSEE master race checking in
but i will quit by year end to start trading full time.

How tough is aeronautical engineering? Heading off to college in August. I'm no retard, 1950 SAT and 30 ACT, but without an amazing work ethic.

>>1316703
>asking an electrical engineering about IT

It makes sense why you're in IT.

>>1316838
>gf going off to college in the fall

She's not your girlfriend anymore.

Also, consider your life 95% likely to be over if you don't go to college. I'd wager even 5% being too generous on how many people end up doing well without a college degree these days.

Just go to university, dumb fuck.

>>1317582
>knows manderin
>can't fathom why he is living easy-mode knowing manderin in a fucking business degree

without that, you would have been in-the-trash tier. your degree is useless. it's literally #1 most filled in the USA.

>>1321725
>engineering degree
>without an amazing work ethic.

You'll fail. You'd better learn how to study and take this seriously, otherwise don't bother wasting your time.

>>1321740
>Also, consider your life 95% likely to be over if you don't go to college

2 years in a trade school and you can make more than 75% of college majors

>>1321748
Of course, I brought my GPA from a 2.7 Junior year to a 3.9 senior year. Hoping to continue the not-shit-grades streak.

>>1321751
Sure, and your job will suck.

>>1321756
suck by what definition?

>>1321751
This.
Most of uni/college education is useless unless you need it to become something that otherwise you can't. e.g. Engineer, psychologist, teacher, actuary etc.

>>1321725
If you have the right attitude, and a stubbornness to be successful it won't be an issue. A lot of idiots take engineering and just chill out and don't pay attention to anything, get subpar marks and then freak out they won't pass their final exam.

CE here. A lot of people drop out because of weeding classes. Maths and physics are pretty big weeder classes. They have the heaviest content in the early years.

>>1321765
>daily health risks
>can only work for so long due to said health risks
>inb4 "just become a manager then/start a construction company" not everyone does that
>has little mental stimulation and anyone could do it
>no respect
>won't be remembered for anything

You're non-ironically trying to debate with me that a blue-collar job that any joe blow can do will suck less than a white-collar job as an engineer/scientist or something.

I don't even know why I engage.You clearly have an agenda to shill something so illogical.

>>1321780
Why are you defining your identity by what you do for money?

How are freshman chem classes for engineers? I have to take fundamentals of chemistry and general chemistry, and I fuckin hated high school chem.

>>1321787
Who said that you were doing it for money?

just graduated, studied chem E and math
had an internship in an oil company for a year that paid pretty well, but I can't find a job with the current oil prices.

Honestly, I picked the hardest/best paying major that I could find and now that it is not paying off, I am salty as hell. If this was 2014, I would easily get 75k starting, but now I might not get employed for a while.

Just got my EMT-B certification

Doing a bachelor's degree in clinical athletic training

My goal is to work in a sports medicine, weight loss, or physical therapy clinic of some kind.

>>1321780
eh no. I was saying a blue-collar job with 0 debt is better than a shitty white-collar job with tons of debt due to majoring in something stupid

engineer/scientist is another level.

Majoring in finance, just finished my second year so I've been able to take a couple finance courses along with a few econ, stats and accounting classes.

Don't really know what field I want to go in yet, also kind of worried about getting internships since shit's pretty competitive.

feels ok overall tho

>>1321824
> I was saying a blue-collar job with 0 debt is better than a shitty white-collar job with tons of debt due to majoring in something stupid
Good thing uni is free in my country and I'm majoring in mathematics

>>1322000
>good thing uni is free in my country
no it's not, it's taken directly from the taxes you pay (or will pay in the future), although the real punchline is that you aren't paying for your own uni, you're paying for other people to get degrees in liberal arts, and then paying for their unemployment benefits when they don't get a job after graduating

>>1322016
Actually it is since I have the freedom to move abroad where the largest job pools are, and get to be paid more with fewer taxes.

>>1316576
>BA in history
>Basis for a JD
>Joined military, became staff judge advocate, pulling $115k a year plus bennies, DoD paid off all my student debt and I effectively "work" 25 hours a week

Depends on what you use the lower shit for.

>>1316591
Niggerology?

>>1316664
idiots dont know how good they have it as usual

>>1316996
>Compensation doesn't translate into the significance of your work, it only measures how replaceable you are.
This has to be the dumbest thing I've ever read on this board in my entire life.

>>1317327
>>1317327
CS here, wish I'd done Math.

>>1316576
>Didn't finish college
>Work for an engineering firm
>Guaranteed to make 50k a year by end of 3rd year
>Profit sharing after that.

2.1 BSc in Economics and Computing
MSc in Computer Security.
Live in a major city in Europe and struggling to get a foot in the door of cybersecurity.

>>1323067
2.1 GPa?

>>1322078
Ebonics.

>>1323164

No, it's the English degree system. 1st equals best, then 2.1, then 2.2 then a 3rd.
If you get a 2.2 or lower, then you fucked up.

>>1316576
Mechanical Engineering, in the "Mech Eng Apprentices everywhere" Capital of England.

I'm studying Economics and I'm going to graduate in April 2017. I've never worked a day in my life, although I'm trying to get a job this summer. I have no debt, and about $3500 in cash. I have $5000 in a mutual fund, and $15000 in a GIC (Canadian long term investment) that's locked up until 2020. How fucked am I? I just want a comfy white collar office job with little interaction and a sweet $40 000+ salary.

>>1316576
Political Science and economics, 4.0 GPA, law school in 2 years

>>1323298
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh2JyX9cxos

Maybe this will lighten your mood.. or not.

>>1322078
Kek

Is Geography the most misunderstood major out there? I'm studying it right now (called Geographic Science at my school) and it honestly seems very solid, especially when you learn GIS, which I'm concentrating it.

>>1322381
>>1316576
So i started out in the uni studying in the unbelievable tier and shifted into the suicide tier.

>>1323919
never quote me or my wife's son ever again

I study architecture. Is it really that bad, and is it worth to do it until PhD.?

>>1322124
I'm sorry its my fault I was born and raised in a society and culture that doesn't constantly murder people for some stupid or financial reason.

>>1318473

>Working in software with a CompE degree.
>Women laughing hysterically.

Was doing extra hardware courses or higher level CS ones that much of a pain in the ass?

Besides, if you're going to spend all the time and energy to boost a CS degree to a engineering one, usually you do it to get those neat factory jobs that have job security unlike software.

What should I do if I'm awful at math? I'm pretty sure I took the same math class like four times under different names

>>1316576
Economics here are Bachelore of arts or acience. If arts then nope. If science then it needs to move. I had only 24 credits spent on sociology. Law. Econ history. Management basics, rest is darn maths.

>>1316576
Petroleum Engineering

send help

>>1324524
i fucking forgot this board doesn't have spoilers

>>1324442
>I'm pretty sure
You don't even remember the topics you learnt....4 times.

You should fuck off .

Still into this tier-shit?

>>1322479
I probably enjoy math way more than I would enjoy CS, but it was just that I took one intro to programming class and I hated it. It took me years to realize that CS was a lot closer to math. I don't even want to take that much, just Data Structures and Algorithms, as well as Machine Learning.

Going to study Economics come this fall. I'll take good tier I suppose

>>1316576
Why do you consider mechanical engineering only a "great" tier field? I'm considering taking it in undergrad, but everyone in this thread has refrained from calling it a good engineering degree

>>1321139
Where are you studying?

How about people offer something helpful ITT.

Most of us have good/shit/meh/okay/awful tier bachelors

Lets say we have Vanilla Bachelors in Business.

Whats a masters one can get to turn it around?

I see no mention of Supply Chain Management here...?

Isn't there money in Logistics?

>>1324035
Sleep in the studio every night. Plus you gotta be able to convincingly sell your ideas.

>>1321136
/biz/ doesn't know very much about the research world.

>still have time to choose my major.
Is financial mathematics is any good compared to a regular mathematics degree with a finance minor?
Which one will employers prefer?

>>1325270
The person who has more connections or more skills.

>>1321780
Implying that majoring in History is better than being a carpenter

AS vs AAS Accounting?

>>1325241
why do they put Physics so high up then?
I assumed this is about how much money you earn.

>>1325332
This. College is a lot of theoretical bullshit. Pick a high ranked major and network and learn skills. Much more effective than trying to learn abstract algebra to keep your GPA up.

>>1316610
sucks to be you anon

>>1316646
A lot of hiring managers don't know any better and just label all computer science related things as IT.

I got a job as an "IT Intern" but all I did was build web pages.

I'm all about power and status what should I study?

>>1320607
Depends on your country anon. God tier in the UK, but there's not need for me to go into detail if you're from outside the UK.

Accounting

>study comp sci
>create app/software
>sell for $100M

Imean why the fuck not

>>1326759
bump.

>>1316576

why is law so low?

normally you have to do a double degree with law, and it opens up alot of avenues into business. i know a few people who did law and moved into stuff like HR, risk management ect. and are earning relatively a lot of money in their late 20's. they dont even have to do the 12hr grind young lawyers do.

Graduated with a degree in mining engineering. Couldn't find mining work because I had no co-op experience, had average grades, and graduated at a time when the industry was suffering (2014). It's still suffering, as are my peers - I looked up my graduation cohort on linkedIn and crunched the numbers. 39% of them are employed as engineers, and 31% of them are employed in a mining-related field. Pretty shitty overall, but such is life in a boom-and-bust industry.

My work history since graduation has been pretty checkered. I did civil engineering for 8 months because I wanted to get engineering experience for my P.Eng. I had a reasonable pay rate and it was a great learning experience, I loved my boss, but the work wasn't for me. Now I'm a metallurgical EIT and volunteer at an MIT-accredited Fab Lab. I'm making reasonable money (55k/yr in a low-cost-of-living area), am highly respected by my co-workers, have extremely flexible hours and love the job. All I do is design and improve metal-purifying systems. So far I've managed to create 99.99991% pure indium from 99.99% pure material, and I'm fairly sure that I'll be able to achieve 99.99999% purity in my current production run.

>>1327801

con't

I'm not sure if I'd recommend anybody becoming a mining engineer right now. While the money can be great (my buddy is making six figures, untaxed right now and he's just 23 years old), it's a tough industry to break into and you can't understate how rough looking for work is during a bust in the industry can feel.

On the other hand the metallurgical sciences are actually really fun! If you can get a gig like mine and enjoy learning all day and actually getting to run experiments with an experienced tech to help you out, I'd suggest giving metallurgy or the materials sciences a chance. Maybe I'm a little bit autistic in that I actually enjoy troubleshooting and collecting data, but a lot of you are too. Give it a go if you're looking for a fun career.

>>1316576
About to try to do finance major and computer science minor

Anyone know if these disciplines are good for making money? (my preference is to work in field regarding AI trading)

>>1328017
Be really good at programming and you will make 6 figures starting. That said, the places where you get 6 figures also happen to be expensive.

>>1328023
thanks. do you recommend any particular language?

>>1328036
To put more context, my friend got an internship at Etsy which turned into a full time job, so he didn't search at all. He makes 6 figures. He uses the LAMP stack at work. If you really want to make the money, you really need to have the skill and be able to demonstrate it.

To answer your question, it really depends on what you are trying to do. If you are trying to get a job, I would recommend building a portfolio of your work to help you get hired. Also, if you're in school, learn the theoretical stuff(data structures and algorithms) as that is the one advantage you get over self learned programmers. If you are starting out, the language doesn't really matter, but I would say Python, just because it's so easy. Once you learn one language, learning others is much easier.

>>1328036

english

I studied English/History in order to become a high school teacher.
In Germany, that's approximately 54k$ starting salary.

I love my job and think it does not belong to suicide tier :^)

Got a master in Supply Chain after a bachelor in Humanities. How fucked am I

>>1328064
Same bro

Teaching is fucking great. I spend all day just screwing around with my students, reading, writing, watching movies, listening to music, talking, laughing...

I spent the last week of school going on fieldtrips. We went on like 3 fieldtrips back to back. Getting PAID to swim, eat hotdogs, and ride rollercoasters? Come on!

And now that school's out, I've just been, well, mostly day-drinking and going to the beach.

I'll take $50k to spend 3/4 of every year doing what I love and 1/4 of every year doing whatever the fuck I want. Fuck yeah

Accounting and Finance
One semester out from both degrees

>>1327770
>why is law so low?
Because getting a job in law is very difficult and a law degree isn't actually all that helpful for getting a job in law. So long story short, you're better off just doing something like history.

>>1319140
Maybe in America. Anybody who can speak and write in 2 or more major European languages competently can walk into a job easy here in Ireland.

>>1316576
Agricultural economics. Starting graduate school next year to get my masters in Agricultural and Applied economics

>>1328461
Will you work for an evil company like Monsanto?

>>1326687
It's not. Engineering, science, medicine and maybe a few others is though.

I'm doing IT, going to a trade school for the but I also wanna go to college to learn something.

Like a back up, how's Accounting like?

>>1316576
English Literature. Kill me now.

inb4 trAIDs

Any EE's out there want to comment on their job and how they like it. I'm an EE student and currently work in ITS for a dB firm, shits boring as Fuck. Every day im ether doing CAD or writing power reports. Is there anything better out there?

>>1328601
I work as an EE doing prototype ships for the military and it's very interesting.

>>1328591
at least you are having fun

International Business with a Spanish minor

>>1316908
Currently debating going this route, what do you do?

Anyone wanna chime in on an IT degree? Want to go back to school but also don't want to waste everything I've saved up for a 10/hr help desk job hellhole.

>>1328604
>EE in the Military

Oh hey, future me if everything goes right.

How hard is it to make it into the military as an officer with a degree? What branch are you in?

Double major in Applied Mathematics and Economics at one uni, law at another.

>>1328802
I'm not from USA. I'm in Europe working for SAAB.

>>1328825
Saab? Wait what? Saab went out of business I thought

>>1328837
Consumer brands is not the same as a company. Nokia and SAAB both are still alive and well.
http://saab.com/naval/

>>1328791
More info required man.
What country?
Part Time study? How long to complete?

Personally, I think any investment in yourself has to be worthwhile. A degree could open doors.

>>1328842
Gotcha

Well... I miss their cars. That's all I know.

>>1316610

ME TOO

>>1328862

US, trying to go into full time study. Probably about 2 years to complete. I'm in my mid 20s and it's daunting reading how the majority of the people in this field have been doing it their whole lives, so getting a degree this late night not even be beneficial.

>>1316576
microbiology good tier LMFAO my professor has a phd and cant find a job

>>1328894
Mid 20's is nothing. Practically still in nappies!!!
I don't know much about the US system. The only advice i can offer is follow your gut.

>>1328948

>Follow your gut

I can't. I'm indecisive as hell. It's why I still have no idea what to do. Fortunatrly I make decent money for a basic job, makes stressing over this stuff a lot easier.

Is being a history teacher in the US suicide tier? Is it really that saturated? What can I do to improve my portfolio to land a job if I major in history or polysci?

>18
>have 1k saved up (only worked 2 jobs in my life, used to be a stoner but got my shit together and have been sober my last 2 years)
>have a huge passion for political science and history, with no strong political opinions one way or another. I just love dissecting everything. I just learn useless shit in my free time
>worried about college and due to parents financial situation, have to attend community college for 2 yrs first

I don't know what to do. I want to pursue my passion, but I'm also anxious. I'm decently tech-savvy but pretty awful at math. The most I can do is some freelance web developer stuff on the side, but pajeet is kicking my ass right now in that market.

Any suggestions?

>>1329033
Stop saying you're awful at math. It's not true. It's just a mental block you've placed on yourself to convince yourself that it's okay to not spend hours studying like everyone else.

>>1329047
Honestly you're right. I'm just so worried because I've gained nothing from the math classes in high school. I didn't absorb any of the information.

I just feel I don't have the foundation there you know? This could also just be me trying to rationalize not working hard, I don't know. I'm indecisive and anxious anon.

Who Advertising here?

I've been considering this major as a back up for a while.

>>1316610
Engineering?

>doing geography

fucking kill me. the only subject at school that i liked and the only thing i can do with it is become a teacher. i'm either going to focus on GIS stuff or learn something useful once i leave uni

>>1329033
Ask yourself these questions:

>would you genuinely, sincerely be happy teaching?
>what's more important to you, time or money?

Only you can answer those questions, but me? I love teaching and I value time over money.

I've got friends making 90,000+ a year, and they work constantly. I'm not even sure they get vacation time, like, at all. And if they do, they're probably still working on their phones, sending emails and shit. Not even sure they like their jobs...

Me? 45k / year but I love what I do and I get 3 months paid vacation every year. You know what I did today? Went to the beach and drank beer. You know what I'm doing tomorrow? Going to the beach and drinking more beer. And I'll still collect a nice little middle class paycheck at the end of next week.

>>1328064
its actually 45k€ maximal. Assuming Gymnasiallehrer. You only make 20€/h and your free time is being robbed by useless meetings and such.

>>1328064
Additionally: Eng/His is literally the worst combination straight after Ger/His.

You are fucked.

>>1321558
>studying physics

Geophysics+Math
Like being in a tent so thought why the fuck not

>>1323349
the second i saw robert the kike reich appear I knew this video was going to be downright retarded.

>>1329302
Sure you did.

>>1329343
I did, in fact. What's your point? do you disagree with me?

Eng Writing Major
Eng Lit Minor

I have my own apartment and new car.

economics major, undecided minor, probably cs. Hopefully I can get into forecasting.

Might do a MS at my shitty uni since I could easily do it, and would probably look pretty good on my resume.

>>1318582
Chem major here.

6 months after graduation, now wondering why I did this.

Guess I fall in the "Goort" category.

I'm in Pharmacy Informatics.

>>1316576
how the fuck is chemistry god tier, I'm a recent grad chem major, and the ONLY internship i got was a shit lab bench position, which I hated. Had to co-found a fucking 3dprinting start-up just to get experience that won't make me fucking hate my life.

Accounting and Political Science?

>>1328934
agreed, microbiology is bullshit, this chart is bullshit

>>1316576
Philosophy
Shit tier but I would do it again

Dual degree with chemical engineering and finance. I work in brewing at the moment, decent pay and ok job. Got a lot of job offers from banks but after doing the degree, I feel like unless you are doing risk analysis your job is going to be suicide tier

>>1329178
You can get jobs with a physics degree, just not I physics.

Financials institutions occasionally hire them for their mathematical aptitude.

>>1324518
I have a B.A. in econ and it was mostly math/stat/econometrics. Also learned Stata/SAS/R through it. I dont think a degree should be judged by its cover

>>1318540
You can just teach yourself outside of school and skip the loan.

>>1329808
>hasn't engineered bacteria that either
>A: eats cancer
>B: accumulates the gold in sea water

shit creative thinking skills senpai
>>1329882
Why not do stats with a minor in econ then?
>implying economics is a science

Currently in college for UI/UX, wat tier & anyone else doing something similar

>>1329166
How can I tell if I will love teaching?


What are the signs I will? What if I have social anxiety?

>>1330414
It's a hard thing to know because the teaching classes you'll take won't really give you a good idea of what being a teacher is really like. You'll teach someone else's lesson to someone else's students and it will feel really "flat" and unrewarding.

But the ability to get up in front of people and talk, not just talk but instruct and teach and manage, is crucial and if the thought of that gives you anxiety, you might not want to go into teaching.

So my advice would be to take 1 or 2 education classes where you do a little fieldwork and just see if you can do it. After that, imagine having your own class with your own students and being able to do it your way. If that thought appeals to you, maybe you should be a teacher.

>>1316576
>*Jobs are rated by employment, usefulness to market, salary, and environment
> hurr astronomy>nursing>psychology durr
Where are these stats coming from, the 19th century?

Finished my commercial law major a few weeks ago

>>1316576
Fixed your image OP

>>1330642
>tfw the people giving you the most shit about being stressed over finishing your mathematics degree are a theology masters and a social work bachelors.

>>1316576
>Philosophy shit tier
>Petrol Engineer unbelievable tier

Please print out this image macro, dunk it in napalm, light it, and insert it into your anus.

>>1330642
I think this is right.

I think actuary>Engg, CE here that was contemplating becoming an actuary

>>1330665
It's only recently falling from grace, but petroleum engineering used to be an elder god tier major with one of the highest starting salaries of any non-med degree.

>>1322381
>Compensation doesn't translate into the significance of your work, it only measures how replaceable you are.
Great cause I have the talent to perfectly balance two tables on top of each other on my forehead. Guess the Circus will pay me as much as a cardiac surgeon gets paid, I mean, there's not a lot of people who can do what I can.

>>1316576
Psychology
tbf I think people have some misconceptions about what is actually studi but i'm sure it'd still be in shit tier

>>1316576
Computer Science senpai, just graduated and I'm making 6 figures straight out of college. Ask me anything, the meme is real.

>>1331359
Did you have a portfolio of your programming work? Did you get an internship which turned into a job after graduating?

>>1331374
>Did you have a portfolio of your programming work?
Nope never had anything like that. Most companies don't care honestly, just how well you perform in the interview. I was always above average on algorithm/data structure knowledge and I know to be friendly.

>Did you get an internship which turned into a job after graduating?
I had internships with two companies before graduating but I didn't end up joining either of them. Senior year I just interviewed around couple companies that came to my uni career fair.

Hey guys, question. I have an opportunity to intern with northwestern mutual. It's a life insurance/financial advising company.

I just did some research however and apparently the job involves using a personal network at times. I.e., friends and family. I'm not sure this is the career for me. I'm almost done with a management degree which is honestly a pretty bad degree so I'm not sure what else to do because I'm going to be needing a job.

You think it's worth it to try the internship? If anything maybe to de autist myself? I've never been incredibly outgoing or good at sales but I mean even if I don't like the job at all I think it might be a beneficial internship. Is it a good or bad idea?

The rep said that starting pay is on average 55k a year out of school and people who have worked there 10+ years make on average 300k. which sounds like a load of big fucking bullshit. I believe the pay is commission based

>>1329805
From what school? Also, did you read flat chemistry or engineering?

>>1331462

It's a trap, anon. In all seriousness.

First and foremost, your pay at the beginning (first 3 months at least) is actually just a "loan" from your future commission. So in other words, they aren't actually paying you. You're starting a loan and paying yourself - if you quit, you'll just owe northwestern money. If you don't quit, your future pay will be decreased to pay the company back.

Second, the job is like this. One day one. READ: FIRST DAY. You write the first and last names, email addresses, and phone numbers of 100 people you know. This is almost always (read: always) your closest family and friends, plus some people you met at school, or knew in the past. Teachers, neighbors etc. You sign a document that gives NW the right to own the list.

Then, your job, is basically to sell life insurance to these people - your friends and family. NW calls these "heads." If you do not make any sales or if you quit, NW owns the list and has your permission to work the leads. Your family/friends will be pestered for years completely outside of your control and the "do not call" list does not apply, since the information was "generated by individual research."

Finally, like many things in life, the job is not fair. Do not get me wrong, there have been many people who just busted ass and/or got lucky doing this job and are now very rich after building a book of business, etc. HOWEVER. For 99% of NW's victims, this is a trap not only because of reasons 1 and 2, but also reason 3: Nobody you know wants to buy life insurance. The folks who may actually need/want it already have it - and they got a better deal than NW can offer and all the people around your age do not fucking want/need life insurance. Just think - do YOU want life insurance? lmao no. I'm 28 and I don't want or need it. Additionally, most people have insurance through their work.

>>1331462
>>1331487

Finally, most "success stories" find success in one of three ways:

1.) They come from an insurance family. Literally - their dad/mom sells insurance and literally give them leads OR let them have old clients. I overuse literally here to express that you must believe this is the most common way.
2.) The family sympathy purchase. One head on your list will buy it simply to support you. NW banks on this and it's still part of the trap. The one sale will not be enough to support you, however, and you will still likely fail in a few months - but NW does not care. 1 sale for 1 new rep - even out of 1,000 hires is cost effective for them - especially since they're not even paying you.

3.) Working hard, finding a bit of luck, developing your own book of business from scratch. Since this is what all salesmen do, I would recommend finding another industry to do it in.

Good luck anon

>>1331359
Bachelor's degree? How often do you work? How enjoyable is it?

>>1331462
Fell for this. Cost me 300 buckaroos and two months of my time.

>>1331651
>Bachelor's degree?
Yes
>How often do you work?
40 hour weeks. I just started very recently so I haven't really experience having to work super long overtime or anything.
>How enjoyable is it?
It's satisfying, I work on interesting problems and I have a lot of leeway on how to solve it. And it's not I get the typical tech company perks like free lunch, cell phone reimbursement, etc. while being in a pretty low col state which lets me walk to work.

>>1331651
>Bachelor's degree?
Yes
>How often do you work?
40 hour weeks. I just started very recently so I haven't really experience having to work super long overtime or anything.
>How enjoyable is it?
It's satisfying, I work on interesting problems and I have a lot of leeway on how to solve it. And I get the typical tech company perks like free lunch, unlimited PTO, cell phone reimbursement, etc. while being in a pretty low col state which lets me walk to work.

>>1316610
wew

>>1321787
i have been told this so many times - "your career isnt what you are." You know what it means to me? FUCK YOU. Because every choice I made, all my genetics, all of my entire being, got me the job I have today BECAUSE of my personality. Your job is a reflection of who you are and anyone who says otherwise is just inciting bullshit.

>>1317638
How expensive will law school be?

>>1317658
Government construction sounds pretty cool to me brah

Third year Med student from turkey. Here we study 6 years and get a bachelor in medicine first. I plan to specialize in either radiology or nuclear medicine later.

All my friends envy me. But i curse the day I wanted to be a fucking doctor

>>1331750
You're going to have a safe and well-paid career for life, people will always respect you, and chicks will always want to suck your dick. Quit bitching.

>>1331500
you have seriously saved me so much fucking hassle and bullshit. I wish there were more than words I could offer you, but know that it's VERY much appreciated.

Thank you anon.

To do Robotics, Electrical or Computer Engineering?

>>1331782
Thanks for the tough love anon

>>1331782

Being a doctor when socialized healthcare is eminent....the glory days of American healthcare are over. Soon we'll have a universal VA care.

Accounting, thinking about either tagging on a double major in either finance or Management Information Systems.

For anybody that has done the MIS route, would you say it has helped you considerably?

>>1316617
Same but I think it's in the right spot, for the majority of schools (mine included) it's basically "couldn't hack it in compsci."

>>1331851
I'm just being jealous because I wish I had done medicine. I don't mean to belittle your grievances. Those are some of the positives I would identify though.

>>1331859
Well I'm a Brit so we've had social healthcare for as long as I can remember. There's definitely a lot of stress in our National Health Service. Which is bad. The strain that doctors are under these days is fucking insane. But, they have good salaries, and very good pensions, and the thing about being a doctor is that your skills are always in demand in every country in the world, which presents a few opportunities.

>>1331892
I wasn't being sarcastic anon, I honestly found your realism refreshing. Hope you will get wherever you want in your life

>>1331911
Thanks man.

>>1317638
You should think long and hard about law school before going into it. I'm serious. It's an enormous commitment and it's not like years ago. I'm not trying to dissuade you, but it's something you need to think about.

Most law school students fail to consider whether they should even become a lawyer at all. Lawyering is nothing -- repeat -- nothing like how you imagine it to be. It's an unbelievable amount of work, stressful work, and IF you even get a job practicing law (see below) you can expect to put in 60 hour weeks that will look something like this:

>taking phone calls from pain in the ass client
>reassure client that you're getting everything together
>work all week long on some complex summary judgement or some shit
>feeling good about it
>come in on Monday and read your emails
>email from opposing counsel yadda yadda you look it over and...oh shit...
>realize that the game has changed completely and all the work you were doing is now useless
>you explain the situation to your client and he wants a reduction on his bill
>he threatens to file a complaint with the bar association and that's the last thing you need
>end up writing off half those hours you worked on that stupid no-longer applicable summary judgement
>time to get to work!......again!

But that's if you can even GET a job. They're graduating like 2 law school students now for every 1 open spot actually practicing. If you don't: a.) Go to a top tier law school, b.) Graduate top of your class, c.) Have awesome connections ... you should probably not even pursue law. It's just the unfortunate reality.

>>1316576
Law enforcement in same tier as Cyber Security and Law. Nigger what even

>>1332125
And most of the lawyers you speak to will even tell you straight-up that if they could do it all over again, they wouldn't go into law.

The money *can* be great. The work *can* be rewarding. That shrewd, lawyery swagger and bravado is always fun. But it's just not worth it when you're putting in 60 hours a week, writing off hours here and there, taking calls from asshole clients who think they know better than you and expect you to somehow do the impossible. It's a lot.

I was considering law school for a long time. I love the idea of it but I know the reality would be so much different. I'll live vicariously through those lawyer friends of mine when we go out for drinks. That's enough for me.

>>1328517
Nah my plan right now is to get a job with the USDA for a while and start up a farm in a few years once I save up some cash

>>1328045
gotcha.

i am reading this
https://www.quora.com/What-should-my-college-major-be-if-I-am-wanting-to-get-into-designing-artificial-intelligence

apparently i need to do this
"You will need a strong foundation in theoretical CS. I'm not talking about an in-depth knowledge of quantum computing or complexity classes, I'm talking mostly about data structures like trees and hash tables. This goes both for theoretical AI and for engineering-based AI. It is inevitable that you will need to deal with CS at this level, and not having a good knowledge of it will probably be bad for you."

>>1331359
where did u go?

and nice!

>>1316790
What skills do you need to become a marketing consultant?

>>1332249
>>1332253
I don't think you have a realistic view on AI research. You're gonna need to go to grad school for any employer or uni to take you seriously. It's not a simple subject and is very heavy on math, stat, and cs theory.

Optical Engineer

Mechanical engineering, fuckers. I'm gonna smoke weed on the hyperloop, bitches.

>>1316576
Mechanical Engineer

Yeah I ain't Unbelievable but I have the most potential of all engineers. I can branch out to anything else in the field.

Which means it deserves to be the best degree anyone with a brain should get.

>>1316576
I don't fucking know - I can't make up my mind.

All my life I self studied theology - occultism - history of religions, and now more than ever I have a genuine interest in pure theology, I've self studied most of college material.

I'm also capable of getting a profession in programming - but not sure I'll be as happy doing it... really don't know what to do.

>>1332554
fuck yeah, how far in are you?

>>1332642
Last year. A year of depression fucked up my 4 year goal but im okay with it.

My last semester is gonna be amazing with only my Senior Design class being the only Mech class I need. Take 3 other classes and I'm gonna have an easy 12 hour spring.

>>1332661
>>1332642
Mech Eng PE here, 4 years in industry, 93k. Keep up the hard work, you'll go places.

>>1316576
I'd like to go into UX Design but its so hard to know what degree it is on this list. Working with computers, making sweet products, websites, being a "thought leader", making the good vidya getting the nice 70K+ doing it, seems like a good life.

>>1316576
God tier physics reporting in

>>1332700
>>1332661
would an mba be worth it on top?

Nuclear energy here. It's hard as fuck, I don't enjoy it, and I'm not gonna earn lods of emone in my country. At least I am almost guaranteed an employment though.

>>1332741
Okay, this is the best advice I got from one of my Professors who basically was there for all of Apollo.

Get your Bachelors and then get a job. Don't go straight for your Masters.

Why pay for it yourself when you can have your employer pay for it?

Its a great trade off of free education with the trade off of you have to grantee work there for whatever years they think is fair for your tuition.

>>1316576
Philosophy/History/Religion

I work in finance now. Decent base salary, good commissions. I just wish I had started earlier instead of wasting those years studying that shit. I find it very interesting, but I didn't learn anything I couldn't just find in books on online. I could have been at this point at 23.

Microbio and genetics
CRISPR is bae

>>1332794
what exactly do you do in finance that is so interesting?

im a mechanical engineer but im also trained in computer engineering

How fucked am i

>>1332249
In the end, what matters is your skill. Since you are trying to do finance with CS minor, you need a lot of mathematics. You should focus a lot on mathematics, and the finance and CS will become easier. I say that as a math major. It's easier to learn CS from a math background, but its harder to learn math from CS. The math I'm talking about is higher level mathematics, not calculus or before. Stuff like graph theory is helpful for learning data structures for example. You may need to talk to an advisor in school about this, as well as your professors if you are really certain what to do.