/biz/ - Business & Finance

me can believe SMG saged
its been almost year since that happened

pen this your fault -_-

>>13164929
All I did was talk about averaging down and how people shouldn't admire Baggie's trading strategy because it almost always with BTFOs you instantly or leads to losses in the long term

Pretty good 12 month run. Been pulling back into cash recently (currently at 20% and want more) because I’m biz’s favorite professional investor and my clients have literally been dumping their painstakingly designed diversified portfolios and buying index ETFs.

In my experience clients always buy what they WISH they WOULD HAVE bought and sell what they WISH they WOULD HAVE sold. So now we pull back and wait and see who is smarter....me or the normans

So consider this a “word to the wise”

>tfw juggling school, work, and full time swing trade-addiction
>getting 2-4 hours sleep a night
>markets close at 8 pm
>pass out while making a protein shake/getting ready to go work out
>sleep 15 hours

Feels good.
Sleep deprivation fucking me over. Binance refreshed last night while I was trying to set a sell order at 23 and sold my bag for 18.

>NEW YORK, March 29, 2019 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Tyme Technologies, Inc. (TYME) announced today that it has priced a registered offering of 8 million shares of its common stock, par value $0.0001 per share, and warrants to purchase 8 million shares of its common stock at a combined purchase price of $1.50 per share of common stock and accompanying warrant, resulting in gross proceeds of approximately $12 million. The warrants will be exercisable beginning six months after issuance at a price of $2.00 per share of common stock and have a term of five years commencing on the date of issuance. The shares of common stock and the warrants will be immediately separable and will be issued separately. The offering is expected to close on April 2, 2019, subject to customary closing conditions.

Pretty good swing chance. Snagging the bottom

>>13164962
> 15%
> good run
pick 1. i do twice that in a day with crypto. stay poor lol.

>>13165224
Post your overall returns

>>13165224
Remind me again of the trailing 12 month return on crypto you poor poor LARPER?

what brokerage do y’all use? should i really be using robinhood?

TYME, NEOS, EYEG (ones I found with my own system)
JAGX (meme stocktwits stock)
That's what I'm looking at for next week. I'll probably buy EYEG monday.
>EYEG
>Find it saturday
>friday it hit the 52 week low
>20% AH

This curse of hindsight I have.

>>13165251
Robinhood is fine as long as you aren't putting your life's savings into it

>>13165251
I use it but need to switch. Its costing me money. I've shit the bed on so many trades this week because no level 2/live charts

>>13165251
etrade for long term stuff, ameritrade for degenerate gambling. if you're only slinging nickels, use robinhood so you don't pay $12-16 per round trip trade

>What are we gonna to today, Brain?!

>Same thing we do every day Pinky, plot our way out of wageslavery!

Why was the last thread archived with 130 posts?

>>13165298
If it was just more of drunken tripfag rambling, I can assure you that nothing of value was lost.

16:00:02 $ 5.86 102,656
16:00:02 $ 5.86 735
16:00:02 $ 5.86 5
16:00:02 $ 5.86 13
16:00:02 $ 5.86 15
16:00:02 $ 5.86 53
16:00:02 $ 5.86 72
16:00:02 $ 5.86 1,525
16:00:02 $ 5.86 164
16:00:02 $ 5.86 1,000
16:00:02 $ 5.86 200
16:00:02 $ 5.86 2,784
15:59:48 $ 5.87 199
15:59:48 $ 5.85 866
15:59:40 $ 5.87 100
15:59:39 $ 5.87 100
15:59:39 $ 5.86 100
15:59:34 $ 5.85 122
15:59:01 $ 5.87 100
15:58:53 $ 5.87 100
15:58:52 $ 5.87 152
15:58:51 $ 5.87 100
15:58:51 $ 5.86 100
15:58:51 $ 5.85 100
15:58:51 $ 5.85 200
15:58:51 $ 5.85 700
15:58:37 $ 5.85 100
15:58:35 $ 5.85 282
15:58:06 $ 5.86 120
15:58:06 $ 5.86 100
15:58:06 $ 5.855 100
15:57:31 $ 5.87 100
15:57:10 $ 5.855 100
15:56:50 $ 5.855 100
15:56:45 $ 5.87 100
15:56:41 $ 5.86 100
15:56:39 $ 5.85 100
15:56:38 $ 5.86 100
15:56:38 $ 5.85 120
15:56:38 $ 5.85 100
15:56:38 $ 5.845 200

Anyone want to take a crack at interpreting this data with me?
>100,000+ trade doesn't show on charts
Ghost shares, spooky.
>trades in 100 share blocks slowly driving price up
Institutions getting the cheapies without setting off any radars?

>>13165327
>Institutions getting the cheapies without setting off any radars?
that's pretty much it. everyone is running software to either accumulate or distribute, and that software does its best to fight off the HFT scalpers. those 100 share blocks are not in the order book for long. this is why level 2 hasn't been useful in 20 years. >>13165260

>>13165251
ally invest.

SPY PUTS

>>13165251
FIDO - their pricing improvements really add up when you move thinly traded securities at size.

>>13165460
Note that this brokerage doesn't like you trading stocks priced under $2 and will charge you 2 cents per share in addition to the usual fees.

>>13165497
If you're trading stocks under $2 you're doing it wrong.

>>13165491
What the fuck did I just watch

>>13165542
there are some decent micro-cap biotechs under $2 (VTGN, SESN, LPTX)

>>13165542
>not buying biotech with 10x upside
Behold, the eternal poor.

>>13165542
>buy 100 shares of X for 1.25

>buy 1 share for 125

Pretty big difference when you gotta work for a living

Already up 15% on NIO calls

Were goina make chink bros

>>13165491

WTF!!!!!!

>>13165542
75% of my portfolio is under $3. :O

>>13165625
Why the fug would you buy nio calls

>>13165582
nothing wrong with 5 dollar stocks

>>13165581
Penny stocks are just gambling, if you want serious investments to maintain wealth you'll have to look elsewhere.

TYME - hmm, might pickup some shares monday. $1.76 per now. The consensus seems to be $10 per in the next few months. A nice gain in the making.

Okay guys so I'm dipping my toes in with 1k. Done some reading, watched some videos. How bad did I fuck up?
I have a small position in DIS, T, TSLA, SBUX. I'm certain DIS and T are gonna do well because they both have media coming out. TSLA was really down for a while, but they have a new car coming out and it seems like a good time to get in. SBUX has pretty much not stopped growing overall for a while and seems like they will continue to make some good decisions, not to mention they are one of the leading Sip providers.

>bitcoin finally crashing

Kek

>>13165773
You did ok. I'm in T myself. Hold on to him. Let his fat divvy keep you nice and warm when your an old man. The key is to buy on the "dip" so you can buy more with less capital. Also use drip to increase your share count/Divvy payout by almost 2x for free.

>>13165718
Because everytime I mention NIO I get comments like yours on the reddit and 4chan. When a company that produced no cars till 2017 and delivers over 10,000 premium ev suvs in a year is considered a scam by everyone yet valued much less than canadaian weed companies. Thats the biggest buy signal

>>13165778
>tiny pullback
>crashing

COPE

>>13165778
>Was at 3800
>Is at 4040
You high?
>>13165852
Yes. I have nio. But options on nio is dumb idea bud, tell me why would I try gamble instead of buying ADS itself.
>>13165773
Pretty dumb picks. You should be fine

>>13165812
My grandad was pretty big on investing, hope he'll be proud.

>>13165879
every bit I make from options I just sell and reinvest in shares since its cheap. But the stock has been bouncing off its support of 5 dollars so I don't feel options would be too bad rn.

>>13165879
>>13165860

See you st 2k

>>13165879
I bet you're the kinda guy who doesnt invest in Domino's before the superb owl

>>13165894

OH NO NO NO

>>13165892
Ok but NIO is ADS... That's a risky option play, what's your strike?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtUm1-3BTbM

You guys think cronos is going to see a dip in their stock tomorrow? This thing is insanely overvauled but people keep buying every fucking one of its dips.

I think the company had a revenue of 6 million thats fucking pathetic for its multi billion valuation

>>13165932
4.5 4/18 calls

>>13165772
Wait for under 1.5.
The SP usually falls to the price of the offering and then some because of panic

>>13165937
Hope so. Theta decay is fucking my 17.5 put. I think the 18-17 dollar range is the bottom. It's overpriced but dudeweed investors are too stupid to care.

>>13165923
dont be too cock we should actually get a pullback next week, its just not now for this delusional fellow
>>13165947
well good luck, it's just my understanding is there is no floor to Nio since its ADS
>U.S. dollar-denominated equity share of a foreign-based company available for purchase on an American stock exchange
so if yellow men want to devalue yuan tomorrow by 10% nio goes -0.5 usd minimum as a result if I understand this correctly

>>13165719
>Penny stocks are just gambling
Only when you buy simply for TA reasons.

>>13165923

Will AAPL fomo finally hit monday?

>>13164896
FUCK TRIPFAGS

/smg/ is cursed and shit and literally infested with discord faggots

>>13166067

>>13166097
quit making threads with your trip on you tremendous faggot no one fucking cares about you fuck off

>>13166134
well you seem to care about his trip

>>13166134

>The last thread died young.

Maybe we are going to bear territory after all.

>>13165719
>it's literally impossible for the stock of a promising business to trade under $2
Maybe you should just go back to discord, leddit, or wherever it is that tripfaggots go when they can't cope anymore.

>>13166143
Filtered

>>13166287
>>it's literally impossible for the stock of a promising business to trade under $2
not what I said. There could very well be very promising businesses, but finding them is a random crapshoot.

Going to the casino monicas, wish me luck

>>13164896
I need a good stock for 1-2 month gains. Has to be a stock I can use my RH margin on. Any tips?

I lost $175 on options on a $2000 account. Should I be feeling down about this?

>>13166323
And another aspect of this, this randomness is not just in the process of finding a good company, but in the process that creates a successful company as well. The only way to have any modicum of stability is with an economy of scale and being too big for people to just shrug off your absence. Before that point, the sheer number of variables which could cause things to go wrong is staggering. If there is something about a company that makes them so promising that investing in them is worth it despite all that, then they'd almost certainly be worth more than 2 dollars.

>>13166381
Lost 1000 on a 15k
It's fine, go all in on a biotech 5 days before a catalyst and sell 3-4 days before said catalyst.

>>13165491
This is the way to give birth. Lying on your back in the MR is the most painful way to give birth and it leaves you exhausted afterward.

As you can see here, however, the girl's fine. Her face is ugly, her teeth look stupid, she's never heard of Bate's eye exercises so she's wearing ugly glasses, that braid is atrocious, and she probably owns a trashy shirt with rainbows and a horse on it, but she's moving around just fine. No C-section and no lazy doctor who wants you lie back because he doesn't want to put a strain on his own back is ever really needed.

>Key iOS Chip Architect Gerard Williams III Departs Apple
>Mac Rumors-2 hours ago
>0Gerard Williams III, lead designer of Apple's custom iOS chips from A7 to A12X, has departed the company, according to CNET. While no ...
>Apple loses semiconductor engineer who oversaw development of A ...
9to5Mac-5 hours ago

Will this do anything to the SP?

>>13166323
>but finding them is a random crapshoot

I guess if you suck

>>13165491
is the baby dead?

Only the bad tripfags are left desu
Except baggie, obviously

>>13166512
maybe, but freshly splatted out babies usually look all fucked up so maybe not

>Started investing 2 days ago
>Newfag so only began with $150
>Have only made $2 so far
Is this good progress? I literally have no idea what to expect. I've only bought into NOK and DF so far and I only bought into them on recommendation from an anon here.

>>13166470
hard to tell, Apple is now banking company now
>>13166601
approximate that to annual and realize youre doing much better than any money managing fund out there. That being said, I dont expect you to keep doing this good for long

>>13166512
Probably should have laid down a gym mat. I saw it bonk its head on the ground.

>>13166767
newborn skull can be easily penetrated with needle, baby is prob bit fucked but overall will survive

Here's a growth comparison of MSFT vs AAPL dividend growth
Pretty similar desu

I seriously can't believe that no one ever mentions Alteryx on here.

Im thinking about long GM

>>13166696
The watch was pretty innovative. Wearables were a joke until apple did them. Same with tablets.

>>13166882
Big trade war and recession risks

Do you think JPM will destroy it's dividend on the next crash again?

>>13166512
>>13166562
>>13166767
>>13166811
probably stillborn, it came out with a blue face and the umbilical cord wrapped around its neck

>>13166888
Air Pods are amazing too.

So after going through this thread I have come to the conclusion that we aren't going to be talking about stocks..... we are going to be talking about tripfags... don't mention stocks in this thread guys.. if you aren't talking about tripfags you're in the wrong thread

Imagine holding BAC in 2008 lmao
>>13166902
zoomer detected
>>13166905
talk to me about dividend growth real slow

>>13166902
Yeah I wish I could just invest in airpods. I see everybody with them now opposed to before the christmas season.
they've also pioneered bluetooth headphones of other brands into the mainstream

>>13166891
yeee thats a thing, it trades at what 6 PE rn? Ridiculous for car company, recession, demand drop sure lets say they sell half cars they do, now its 12 PE stock assuming price stays same. With divvy of 4% and most importantly their investment in automation... Im not sure if its a bad buy

JNJ really is the king of dividend growth. If you go into dividend growth investing, and the stocks growth doesn't beat JNJ's 6% yearly for eternity, just don't fucking bother
>>13166934
PE doesn't matter, the entire auto industry is priced at that. They don't grow their dividend. The only reason to buy GM is their E-car sales, which Honda does better. You are continually proving to be an idiot trip.
Filtered

>>13166915
All the Big 4 managers at my office wear them.

My dream is to be a majority shareholder in every major food company so I can demand free food anywhere

>PE doesn't matter, the entire auto industry is priced at that.
Somehow I dont remember this autismo anon who needs to filter same trip 3x per thread

If you don't find this arousing you need to reevaluate your life

>>13167017
>1.4% yield
Wow so much moneys I'm gonna buy a shirt!

>>13167030
Dividend growth is more important than yield... You'll have huge yields and massive capital appreciation in 10 years.
Feel free to go with VZ's stagnant yield though

>>13167044
>10 years
I'll probably be dead by my own hand. is

Divis are for after you make your first mill. Now is the time to live fast.

>>13167093
Warren Buffet gets a 100% return every year on his original KO buy because of dividend growth
You are doing dividends wrong

>>13167106
I'm not doing them at all.
>21st century America will follow the same parabola as 20th century America

Get in while the gettings good and make a speedy retreat. Or you'll end up holding East India Company stock and averaging down every year until the empire collapses.

>>13167044
boomer thinking does not work anymore

>>13167130
>a biotech gambler has bad opinions
>comparing modern america to brit-bong tea trading
Y
I
K
E
S

>>13167189
Modern America is very comparable to the zenith of the British Empire.

>bad opinions
I just don't think passive wealth creation (money coming to you without you doing any semblance of work or critical thought) is an admirable strategy or sense of ethic in general.

you have to be literal retard to not care about yield and other parameters alarming we're overbought and overvalued in general. Buffet method only works if your entry makes sense with 10-15year forward, but if you retard you dont look at it and just buy dividend growers instead

>>13167230
>Modern America is very comparable to the zenith of the British Empire.
Wrong
>I just don't think passive wealth creation (money coming to you without you doing any semblance of work or critical thought) is an admirable strategy or sense of ethic in general.
And clicking buttons with 5 minutes of DD of smallcap biotech stocks is like slaving away on a farm?

and lets not forget how much money is currently in cash at Berkshire, even based boomer himself knows we need to get better performance before throwing money in dividend growers

>>13167249
>And clicking buttons with 5 minutes of DD of smallcap biotech stocks is like slaving away on a farm?

5 hours a day of research at least and 6-8 hours watching tickers during the day.
Most traders burn out by 35. It's way harder than "hard day's labor" wagecucking like construction or truck driving. I'd rather do either (I have) but I can't make the same kind of money.
Making money isn't easy and it shouldn't be

>>13167282
You make fun of wagies while having the most wagie mindset ever
>making money isn't easy and it shouldn't be
Poorfag cope. Stay poor and SEETH

>>13167249
>Wrong
USA Percent of world GDP - 24.02%
British Empire Percent of World GDP (1913) - 24.28%

>>13167314
Are you saying the East India Company era was the same as the 1913 british empire?
Filtered for being a historical brainlet

>>13167297
Ow so poor. Have fun with your 5% yearly growth. I'll take my 120% monthly.

>>13167327
Post returns

>>13167326
I'm not autistic enough to know any huge British companies that went under after WWI.

>>13167334
Post returns

>>13167333
>>13167342
>wanting someone to actually back up their inane shitposting with proof is bad

exactly what I expected from the type of person who posts NPC memes

>>13167342
>>13167333
I agree with your side of the argument you're in with the other guy, btw

>>13167364
>>13167371
>insults me
>agrees with me
Half filtered

>>13167342

>>13167388
Checked and lmao pathetic. Post back in 6 months after you lose it all, newfag. You're pulling a baggie hard

>>13167388
lmao. Absolutely btfo

>>13167388
whats your best performer and something you are down on now you thnk will go up relatively soon (1-3m)

>>13167230
>I just don't think passive wealth creation (money coming to you without you doing any semblance of work or critical thought) is an admirable strategy or sense of ethic in general.

It's not a matter of having an admirable strategy, imo, it's a matter of having one that works in the long term, and just putting it all in index funds works well in the long term

>>13167395
Will do. That’s all part of the fun dood. My best gains come when I’m on the verge of killing myself from a huge loss.

There might be another 10k baked into that number but RH can’t display options prices very good, especially after the market closes

>>13167388
You are now in the max confidence area of the dunning kruger chart. Remember that protecting your principal is priority number 1. My first year looked similar. Massive gains on bullshit. Thought i was some kind of trading savant. I was not.

>>13167438
>kind and wholesome posting during an argument
REEEEE IT'S OVER
:3
Good luck m8, hope you putt it out

>>13167428
what if I have no long term strategy

Is Ford a good stock for a newfag? Dividends don't seem bad for such a cheap stock

>>13167458
then your long term strategy is to just make a bunch of short term trades

>>13165240
Reminder that -80% only looks bad if you’re not shorting.

>>13167501
Thats the thing tho... I have shit I hold for quarters and some stuff soon will go on year of holding. I have some dividend centered plays some growth stocks, I hold commodities for different reasons and I even jump in and out of crypto when it makes sense. Basically Im all over the place adjusting to what asset and trade length makes more sense

>>13167470
Ford is a trash company. The only motor company worth investing in is Tesla, but it’s the next Enron.

I’m personally going all-in on SPY 4/19 $300 calls.

>>13167450
>thought I was some kind of trading savant

I feel that, I was acting like such a prick to homeless people until I lost big gains playing SPY options. REPH's CRL could've killed me if I didn't save it with CRON puts.

>>13167407
AVGR did really good for me (.65 entry, 1.1 exit). Keeps swinging from .89 to .99 every week until the FDA news is confirmed. Sells off each monday, pumps friday (people afraid of it breaking over the weekend).
I'm still playing JAGX (.23-.3) which is swinging back and forth on FDA rumors. Upward of 0.9-1 pump if good news breaks.

LPTX is the safest thing you can put your money in the 1-3 month period though. Baring some unforeseen outside force, another catalyst (or simply the run-up to it) will bring it back to the 3s at some point. There will definitely be one in May iirc.

I have INNT .03 dollar calls at 2.5 (recently pumped to 4 and is now oversold, pumped 11% yesterday and the calls hit .18) and ESPR (oversold on statistical anomaly in data, insider buys, double bottom with a short interest of 60%) $40 calls.
ESPR ones are already up 12% because I keep buying the dip when it goes under 40.

Have BLRX/PLX lined up June/July/summer

>>13167574
Their stock seems pretty stable. I'm more so looking at them for the dividend payout, bro. I know they can change that shit at any time but seeing as how the stock itself always seems stable around the $7-$9 mark I don't think I'll be fucking up long term investing. Worst case scenario I might lose a couple hundred bucks. Best case scenario I have an extra couple hundred every year.

>>13165251

NO. Robinhood is literal fucking garbage.

>>13167574
>300 dollar SPY calls
I loaded to cover the puts I bought anticipating the fed decision to not change rates would unsettle the markets. Figured if I was wrong we’d enter a buy frenzy.
Stupid crabs.

If the China deal is amazing and breaks in the next 2 days spiking the market 10% I’m gonna be a rich man lol

Well not rich. 20 grand is probably the max those options could get me if the SPY jumped to 310

>>13167044
>>13167017
Where did these charts come from, and are you saying you’re bullish on these companies that just slashed their dividends?

>>13167670
They didn't slash their dividends, they just haven't been fully paid out this year

>>13167670
I assumed 2019 was that low because we only just finished Q1

Buy the Dip. Why pay more if you ain't got to? Also buy more with what you do have. The sweet upswing will make you smile. (and a tidy profit when you sell). Even better is if it pays out a nice Divvy. Enjoy that Free Money while you wait.

>>13166858
>>13166696
>AAPL transitions from phone revenue to financial services and subscription based services similar to Netflix and Hulu
>growth company is now value company
>forced to jack up dividend as a result
Y/N?

>>13167742
T is the hero of the hour. His Fat Divvy/Price Per Share ratio is hard to beat. Especially when he shits down to the $26- 28 range. Sure you could go with CTL and pay less but you'd also get a much lower Divvy payout of only a $1. Fuck that shit I say. Why settle with only $1 per share when T will net you $2.04 for not much more.

People flock to VZ for the Divvy but when you do the math you can get almost two T's for 1 VZ and a higher Divvy payout to match. So put T on your watch list now and be alert. When he shits down to under $30 per you strike and buy him like it's crack.

I’m still confused about why SOXS paid me a dividend a week after I sold

>>13167812
It takes time to remove shareholders from the books. Enjoy your "free" money. or if Dripping, free share(s)

>>13167793
thats the fucking problem, they arent forced to do this look at NFLX you are comparing it to. They are becoming growing company without growth

>>13167589
What would you consider a good short interest number to avoid or get into?

>>13166934
GM is only operating at a 3 billion dollar profit. If their revenues half, for one, they almost certainly aren't going to continue offering a dividend, two, if they have a loss greater than 26.5 billion dollars then they will default, it's that simple. 26.5 billion is just about 18% of their yearly revenue by the way and from 2005 to 2008 GM posted a loss of 88 billion dollars, leading to their bankruptcy.

>>13167805
People like DIS stock and I admit it's hard not to see why. So much profit comes into Dis it makes you sick with Greed on a yearly basis. But they only pay out 2x a year of only 0.88 a share that costs $104.

$104 would net you 3 T shares and change with a net payout of $6.12 on the whole. V.S 1 Dis share that would pay you $1.76. Bag T now and get more for your dollar.

>>13167884
they lost money during the boom years of 05-07? lmao

Am new to understanding fundamentals and ownership. Is this kind of float a bad thing?

>>13167888
>>13167841
I’m not going to bet against Disney or Apple.

As much as fans hate on nuStarWars and nuMarvel, look at how much money this shit is generating (maybe don’t look at Solo).

And then look at how Disney is the only company that isn’t getting MeTooed out the ass, that they are poised to win hard in the streaming battle with ESPN, Pixar, Fox assets, etc. They even have a hand in Hulu.

Like someone else said, Apple manages to take stupid looking things and make them essentials, like iPods, smartphones, wearable tech, earbuds, and tablets. People are doubting TV because they blew it before, but this isn’t going to be like the old Apple TV or google glass.

The only problem is I’ll never be able to own enough Apple shares for the divvy to pay for my new iPhone.

I feel so stupid for not buying more Apple or any Disney last year. I can only hope we get some real cheapies later this year.

Please fuck everything up, Chaos Emperor Powell-sama

>>13167470
Ford has same issues as GM
>>13167884
>>13166891
But with even more debt.

I wonder if the AAPL event play majorly contributed to making the S&P crab

Blog post time.

I've seen a chick a few times over the last couple weeks, and while drunk last night, she asked if I viewed it as a long-term thing. So, I've been trying out this thing lately where I try to be honest with people, and lost story short, she kicked me out. Ngl, was not prepared for that

>>13167987
She's already deleted and blocked me on pretty much everything. Damn, chicks act fucking fast. Why do they do that shit?

How do I short millennials fucking? Read a story about the US reaching record lows for sexual activity. It’s natural progression of communication becoming more insular and introverted

>>13168018
Society is becoming more and more atomized, it won't be long before we consider everyone as merely strangers around us, and then only the state and the market will be holding us together. Lower sexual activity is one symptom of this, to the extent that people who are under 35 are actually having less sex than 55 year olds.

>>13168044
The partition inside my head separating my normie brain already regularly writes it off as too much social effort to blow a load

>>13167968
no, it's a good thing
high institutional ownership is always good news, and stocks with low float can explode upwards under the right circumstances

>>13168092
Institutional ownership can get frustrating though if you’re trading because the volatility becomes bottlenecked while they’re consolidating

>>13167987
Been fucking this girl for awhile.. she got pissed off at me the other week called me a piece of shit then proceeded to tell me to lose her number and that she's blocking mine.. blah blah blah.. about a week later she writes me asking if i can get pain pills.. i tell her yes but expensive.. she starts to conversate with me.. then i stop texting then just send her an emoji.. and she was like.. I still don't want to talk to you.. dont text me... lol.. girls are fucking useles..

>>13168018
I saw that too.
Isn't that almost a good thing? Doesn't it necessarily mean that people are becoming less promiscuous and hedonistic?

>>13168044
>Society is becoming more and more atomized, it won't be long before we consider everyone as merely strangers around us, and then only the state and the market will be holding us together.
>it won't be long before we consider everyone as merely strangers around us
I was just thinking about this recently. What's stopping people from going to San Francisco and going on a rampage? Wouldn't it be easy?
There's so many fucking people.
In the jungle, there's many, many animals packed into such little space.
In small towns, everybody knows each other.
In suburbs, most people know each other and can pick up on outsiders.
In cities, you're just surrounded by fucking strangers.

>>13168153
>>13167987
then last night my ex gf sends me pictures trying to get back with me..... sheesh

>>13168153
What emoji was it? Was it just a smiley face?

>>13168168
the unamused face.. I already know shes going to hit me back sometime

>>13168160
>I saw that too.
Isn't that almost a good thing? Doesn't it necessarily mean that people are becoming less promiscuous and hedonistic

Depends how you look at the data. I see it as correlating to the rise of incels. Either way you’ll need immigrants to keep the birth rates sustained and then more redittors will go on killing sprees.

>>13168092
That's what I was thinking but I remember reading it could be bad. I forget why.

I was also worried about the continuous sale of shares by the CEO, but I just discovered they are automatic. That means they were set into place months ago to avoid insider trading problems, and are just a way of taking profits, right?

>>13168118
But if I'm not trading, and just think this company has huge upside potential? This is my largest holding (except for VTSMX) right now and is hugely speculative. I can't believe I let it get so large...

Makes me nervous but also excited

>>13168213
yep
some of the higher ups in a company get paid mainly in stock, and these automatic sales are how they take their wage

Made a meme to post for a couple months from now

Movie night tonight at 9 mountain time!
We're playing Office Space (I've already tested it, it for sure works)

>>13168211
What's interesting about the data is that the divergence in male and female sexual activity was incredibly recent. 2012 at the earliest. Most incels blame the sexual revolution and the associated cultural trends as leading to hypergamy and all the problems in the world. But obviously that can't be the case. Rather, what came first was the trend towards less sex overall, and then the trend for men just grew more after a while. Men, psychologically, also experience loneliness more in terms of their sexual and romantic relationships, while women more experience it in terms of friends and family.

Dude
DLTH and DNKN are the most baste investments you can make

Is the catalog fucking up for anyone else?

>>13168368
>be a girl
>never be lonely because someone will always fuck you

Wish I knew that feel

>>13167850
Idk why I said ESPR was 60% short interest, dunno where that number came from.

It was at 22% when I got in. I like to look at short interest spiking to confirm my entry at the bottom. ESPR went from 8-10% daily to 22% on Thursday and then back to the original range Friday when it didn't get any lower.
Shorts trying to beat a dead horse and getting nothing it is a good sign.

>>13168566
Keep in mind what I just said. Women don't experience loneliness, for the most part, in terms of romantic relationships. Women may still feel lonely even if they can get sex easily.

>>13168368

What cause the spike in female virginity 2008? Obama?

>>13168163
>then last night my ex gf sends me pictures trying to get back with me..... sheesh
This ex gf is a different girl, right?
Is it the one that dumped you because you wouldn't marry her?
She broke it off with you, rather than vice-versa, right?
Why is she trying to get back with you?
The girl that I was seeing pretty much immediately started trying to remove/block me on everything, which seems to be how it usually goes. Did your ex not do that?

>>13168665
>Women may still feel lonely even if they can get sex easily
Yeah yeah sure.

>>13168677
Not virginity, just no sex in the past year.

Facebook. Its Occam's razor. All the recent problems in society are caused by facebook. Long facebook.

>>13168677
>>13168710
probably the recession, new pressures to do well in school, or unemployment that resulted.

>>13168185
Yeah, she didn't stick to her word the first time. Why didn't she block you already?

>>13168211
>Depends how you look at the data. I see it as correlating to the rise of incels. Either way you’ll need immigrants to keep the birth rates sustained and then more redittors will go on killing sprees.
It definitely will lead to the rise of male incels, so that means less promiscuous behaviour in the majority of males?
It means that less women are willing to have sex with a larger portion of men. It'd be odd if this doesn't mean less promiscuous behaviour.

The only way that this would not correlate with less promiscuous behaviour is if it means that women are raising their standards to a height that does not lead to relationships that will pan out for them, and are willing to sleep around with people that they know won't commit to them.

>>13168298
Dank.
Keep up the good work, anon.

>>13168739
>it means that women are raising their standards to a height that does not lead to relationships that will pan out for them

The main thing I hear from my sister and her friends (the only contact with females I have) is that guys in my generation just don't know how to speak or interact. They fundamentally lack the socialization skills to act like functional human males.

>>13168758
These 2 factors above all else.

If you’re an attractive woman with a genius level IQ, from a wealthy family, good luck finding someone who meets your standards.

And then we’ve got young men growing up on porn and video games.

Ganbatte, society.

>>13168368
>Rather, what came first was the trend towards less sex overall, and then the trend for men just grew more after a while.
I'm not sure if the chart or the article that had that data would support that conclusion -- only that the majority of people are having less sex and that young men are disproportionately contributing to this trend.
I don't think the article or chart has any data support that would support ordering of two trends like you had indicated: that the overall trend came first and that the male trend came after a while.
>Men, psychologically, also experience loneliness more in terms of their sexual and romantic relationships, while women more experience it in terms of friends and family.
I haven't seen any data to back that up, but it does make sense intuitively, and it is a very fascinating point.

>>13168777
She needs to gain some weight

y can chicks be attractive just by eating well and running a couple miles when I gotta do all that shit but also lift all this heavy shit and cut my body fat to dangerzone lvls? not fair

>>13168368
lmaoing @ heterosexual men

>>13168566
Kek. What a feel.

>>13168665
>Keep in mind what I just said. Women don't experience loneliness, for the most part, in terms of romantic relationships. Women may still feel lonely even if they can get sex easily.
I imagine the feeling that somebody is always willing to bang you is pretty similar to how a rich dude will always have gold diggers that are after their wallet.

Just get money. Then you will have gold diggers chasing you down for sex. If not, there's always legal prostitutes in Nevada.
That's why some level of money truely does buy happiness. You can pay for sex, and that's the source of loneliness in the male mentality.

>>13168826
>Just get money. Then you will have gold diggers chasing you down for sex. If not, there's always legal prostitutes in Nevada

I don't think I'd ever act in a way that makes me seem rich. I'd be like that dude from S3 of Fargo.

>>13168677
It's not a spike in virginity, actually. Look at the graph again. You had it backwards; they were having more sex.

>>13168710
Lel no

>>13168725
I still feel that the recession is somehow involved.

What can I as a poor wageslave with $300 to spare invest in to make financial gains

>>13168758
>The main thing I hear from my sister and her friends (the only contact with females I have) is that guys in my generation just don't know how to speak or interact.
Sounds about right.
So many women love to think that they're "so mature for their age"
>They fundamentally lack the socialization skills to act like functional human males.
The way that I was raised in school was that getting good grades is more important than popularity, or necessarily social skills / soft skills.
"Why should I care about soft skills? Just hire me because I'm good at math and can do the fucking job" was what I thought, and most other guys that were good at school. Put your head down and do the fucking work.

>>13168777
>These 2 factors above all else.
>If you’re an attractive woman with a genius level IQ, from a wealthy family, good luck finding someone who meets your standards.
>And then we’ve got young men growing up on porn and video games.
But, you've got attractive men with genius level IQ, from a wealthy family, and they've grown up with porn and video games.

>>13168872
VOO or VTI

>>13168888
>they've grown up with porn and video games.

The thing is that they haven't. I've got rich cousins and they've grown up sailing and playing lacrosse.

>>13168785
I think she's doing fine. Kek

>>13168810
Because women are raising their standards to stupidly high levels. Try dating a girl that's at the borderline of your standards -- e.g. "yeah, I'd fuck her and she seems alright, but I know I can do better."
I just did, and she was sad that I didn't view it as something that would pan out.
I think she's been through it before, but she wouldn't be willing to settle for a guy that's low enough that he'd be willing to settle for her

>>13168941
>Because women are raising their standards to stupidly high levels
And men are to blame. Thirsty ass mother fuckers that are willing to break their neck for a 7/10 to give them the time of day. When a mass of guys are willing to do that shit just to get their dicks wet, that 7/10 starts thinking she is pretty good and is more like a 9/10.

I bet if you ask a girl what she thinks she is, almost all of them would say 8-9/10. /biz/ of all boards should know something is worth however much buyers are willing to pay for it. Tinder and shit like it ruined women. Any men who use those shit apps and go to bars like a hound chasing every half decent piece of ass that walks by have only themselves to blame for why women are the way they are.

>>13168758
>guys in my generation just don't know how to speak or interact. They fundamentally lack the socialization skills to act like functional human males.

That goes both ways. Once, just once, I'd like to go on a date with a girl who doesn't check her cell phone constantly. Women place all the blame on men's (real) shortcomings meanwhile never once considering that maybe they could try to put in some work on their own shortcomings to meet halfway. They seem to think showing up and looking decent are the sole responsibilities they need to take care of on their end.

>>13168739
>women are raising their standards to a height that does not lead to relationships that will pan out for them, and are willing to sleep around with people that they know won't commit to them.

They are and they do.

>>13168824
Yeah, sometimes I think it'd be so much easier and I'd be so much happier at this point in my life if I was just fucking gay.

>>13168838
>I don't think I'd ever act in a way that makes me seem rich. I'd be like that dude from S3 of Fargo.
I haven't really watched Fargo, but if I was way more rich, I think I'd try to just keep living life the way that I currently am.
That doesn't mean the gold diggers can't sniff out your cash though. Or that you wouldn't try out paying for a prostitute.

>>13168872
The following:
>>13168902

Or, you know, you could go all in on SPXL, SOXL, or FNGU like a filthy animal and maybe even go for call options on them.
Some lessons seem like they can only be learned the hard way.

>>13169000
>I'd be so much happier at this point in my life if I was just fucking gay
I've truly contemplated how much more chill everything would be if I just decided to be gay. I'm sure I could get used to it given time.

>>13168932
Uh, I make 170k / year at the age of 23 and I have.

>>13168691
na she didn't do all that but her... the one that said lose her number is a different girl... girls are fucking weird

I've been slowly hearing about a REIT that offers immediate liquidity but uses crypto stable coins to provide it and I'm thinking about taking the risk

>>13169000
>haven't really watched Fargo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMSB09AJO8s

Its a pretty good show. I binge watch a new season every time the weather starts getting cold.

>living at home is terrible
>paying rent would mean no money for index funds/bear fund.

Do I start living in my car and taking all my showers at the gym? It’s actually a pretty nice gym, free towel service and I like to hit the steam room after a workout and before a shower.

I don’t want my laptop stolen though, or to be robbed or impounded.

>>13169000
>sometimes I think it'd be so much easier and I'd be so much happier at this point in my life if I was just fucking gay.
heard it's a pain in the ass....

>>13169064
Live in the woods

>>13169061
God I love that season, that character was so good and the woman who tried to kill him was absolutely amazing too.

>>13168969
>>Because women are raising their standards to stupidly high levels
>And men are to blame.
>that 7/10 starts thinking she is pretty good and is more like a 9/10.
Are the men really to blame here?

- If I'm the lone art teacher at a school and I make my course an easy A just to get people to take my class and inflate their GPA, am I to blame if the student suddenly thinks he's great at painting?
- If I start up a company and pay my first few hundred employees half in super inflated shares of equity that eke out their salary to some stupid high number, am I to blame if they think that's how much they should be paid? (even SNAP which is post-IPO pays developers $300k+/year, but primarily in equity on a dilutative vesting schedule, but pre-IPO companies can be way more predatory)
- If I sell a guy a fucking rock fresh off the ground for 500 bucks, is it my fault if he tries to sell it to some other guy for that much?

>I bet if you ask a girl what she thinks she is, almost all of them would say 8-9/10. /biz/ of all boards should know something is worth however much buyers are willing to pay for it.
And why are the buyers not to blame?
Think of all those BTC bagholders.
The fucking guy that took out a mortgage on his house to buy BTC.
If they came out at a loss, is the seller the one to blame?

>Tinder and shit like it ruined women. Any men who use those shit apps and go to bars like a hound chasing every half decent piece of ass that walks by have only themselves to blame for why women are the way they are.
If you don't take advantage of the situation, somebody else will
If there's 500 bucks on the counter, you don't know who owns it, and nobody's around.
Do you pocket the money?

>>13168941
I refuse to belong to any club that would have me as a member.

>>13168986
>>guys in my generation just don't know how to speak or interact. They fundamentally lack the socialization skills to act like functional human males.
>That goes both ways. Once, just once, I'd like to go on a date with a girl who doesn't check her cell phone constantly.
Kek. I just read something about this.
>"Historically, I’ve found myself distracted on dates, and I developed a habit of checking social media here and there. However, due to the time constraints of these three dates, I realized that I needed to be fully present and to shift my attention to anything but the person across from me would be extremely inconsiderate."
>https://swipelife.tinder.com/post/first-date-tips/
Kekekekek SHE'S SO FUCKING PROUD OF NOT CHECKING HER DAMN PHONE!

>Women place all the blame on men's (real) shortcomings meanwhile never once considering that maybe they could try to put in some work on their own shortcomings to meet halfway.
They have a sense of entitlement. After banging that 10/10 Chad, they don't understand why they can't get a lasting relationship with that 10/10 Chad.
>They seem to think showing up and looking decent are the sole responsibilities they need to take care of on their end.
That's all I'm looking for if I'm not expecting it to pan out lol

>>women are raising their standards to a height that does not lead to relationships that will pan out for them, and are willing to sleep around with people that they know won't commit to them.
>They are and they do.
This seems like a fair conclusion to reach

>>13169118
You make good points, but at the end of the day if men were not inflating the egos of mediocre women the world as a whole for men would be better.

>>13169085
>imagine being in the woods during the night

scary you are going to see some creepy shit.

>>13169029
>>I'd be so much happier at this point in my life if I was just fucking gay
>I've truly contemplated how much more chill everything would be if I just decided to be gay. I'm sure I could get used to it given time.
I've given this serious consideration while I was towards the much incel part of the spectrum, but I think I knew that I could get there, just that it'd be a good few years down the road.
Look at the kinds of girls that you want to date. Look at the guys that they date. Notice anything?
The guys are all a few years older and have a job and some stability.
You probably are even very confident that you'll go further in life than that guy.
However, you're not there yet. And that seems to be the only thing that girls are capable of seeing.

>>13169214
There comes a time in your life when you realize you're the type of creepy spook that people are scared of meeting in the forest at night.

>>13169201
This whole dynamic is the result of a scarcity of "encounters", the random moments where we all find love. Human interaction is so explicitly regulated and corralled that these moments happen less and less. In the absence of these moments, we are forced onto not a open market, but an auction block where we are evaluated without an existing relation or context.

>>13169054
>girls are fucking weird
Hahaha. Girls are fucking stupid.
They're naive and unrealistic.
They don't set goals or have a vision in life in the same way that guys do.
We set out to fucking conquer the world.
Girls just want to figure out how to get on the world conquerer's radar.

>>13169059
>I've been slowly hearing about a REIT that offers immediate liquidity but uses crypto stable coins to provide it and I'm thinking about taking the risk
>REIT
>crypto somehow involved
Kekekekek. I'd give it a hard pass.

I went to a wedding recently and the story of how the two got together was so self-deprecating and honestly pitiful (at least from my perspective).
The dude pinned after her since highschool even when she had a older boyfriend that she tried to elope with and orbited until he finally got her 4 years later.

>>13169219
>Look at the kinds of girls that you want to date. Look at the guys that they date. Notice anything?
The guys are all a few years older and have a job and some stability.
I never got this mentality. Just go to a bar past 11 at night and dress nice. All women want is someone to listen to their bullshit. Just pretend like you care about why their boss is an asshole or how worried they are about their sick fucking cat and you can fuck them. Once you fuck them, it's up to you whether you want to be in a relationship with them or not.

>>13169226

>>13169262
shes gunna cheat on him

>>13169245
girls are just emotional and make shit choices because of it

It's like herbivoring like Jim from The Office is a viable romantic strategy these days.
That's how elephant seals do it too.

>>13169061
>>haven't really watched Fargo
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMSB09AJO8s
Pretty good.
He described the difference between looking wealthy and acquiring wealth.
It's easier said like this: the cool kids at my high school drove shit like Chevy Camaros (probably leased) while living in their parents apartment while I drove a rusted out 90s pick-up truck from my grandpa... My parents house was pretty fucking nice though, so I think they weren't very mindful of the acquire vs display wealth thing.
>Its a pretty good show. I binge watch a new season every time the weather starts getting cold.
I don't like watching TV

>>13164896
F

>>13169067
Kek

>>13169245
Naive, perhaps, but I knew many girls who have goals and a vision for their life. Briefly dated my valedictorian in high school, she wanted to be an ambassador one day and got some really high profile internships in government agencies. I'll always be impressed by her, one of the smartest people I've ever met.

>>13169290
Probably. She's way too nice, tries to make conversation with me and I'm like the most uninteresting faggot ever.
But it seems like he's got it locked to a degree, never lets me talk to her for more than 2 minutes without drifting into the convo and I'm as nonthreatening as it comes.

>>13168305
>implying you'll ever be able to host a movie night correctly

>>13169317
you should fuck her.. whenever you get the chance just go for it.. i'm pretty sure guys around her are already hitting it behind her husbands back..

>>13169262
Their entire family is hilarious romantically btw. I'm childhood friends with the brother who's borderline autistic savant) and I think he got thrown outta his school for stalking some chick,

>Women are irrational
>I'm considering panic selling out of my FOMO positions
>I am, AFAIK, a human male
Really keeps the noggin bobbin'

>>13169146
That's a quote. I've heard it before, but didn't find it as relatable as I do now.
People want what they can't have.

Women are becoming less willing to settle? Is it exclusively women that are becoming less willing to settle?

I think they're just bad at finding a good deal. Why will women go after the older chad over a guy their own age will be more successful at that point in life?

I'm pretty sure my dad is fucking/trying to fuck the mom too.

>>13169302
>He described the difference between looking wealthy and acquiring wealth.
This is an interesting point especially when it comes to women and dating. Frankly, having 100k in index funds isn't sexy to 99% of women. Or at least it seems that way. You need to have some balance of materialism and actual wealth.

>>13169201
>You make good points, but at the end of the day if men were not inflating the egos of mediocre women the world as a whole for men would be better.
If I was not inflating her ego, then some other fucking Chad would.
If you could sell a rock fresh off the ground for 500 bucks, wouldn't you?

>>13169336
Groucho Marx

>>13169352
That's why I keep my fattest portfolio up on my phone at full brightness when I'm at the gym

>>13169227
>This whole dynamic is the result of a scarcity of "encounters", the random moments where we all find love. Human interaction is so explicitly regulated and corralled that these moments happen less and less.
You can be very misleading in your tinder profile, and it has become the norm.
You can now get fucked up in court for having drunk sex.
>In the absence of these moments, we are forced onto not a open market, but an auction block where we are evaluated without an existing relation or context.
I personally like Coffee Meets Bagels because it has the most women to men ratio, which means I'm less likely to get a raw deal and it's easier to get a good deal.
Why are there fewer "encounters" in modern society? Why is it going in this direction?

>>13169262
>I went to a wedding recently and the story of how the two got together was so self-deprecating and honestly pitiful (at least from my perspective).
>The dude pinned after her since highschool even when she had a older boyfriend that she tried to elope with and orbited until he finally got her 4 years later.
That does sound very self-deprecating and pitiful. Was he merely orbitting the whole time? Or did he at least go after other chicks? I have no respect for such a severe case of one-itis if he didn't at least go after other chicks.

>>13169284
>I never got this mentality. Just go to a bar past 11 at night and dress nice. All women want is someone to listen to their bullshit. Just pretend like you care about why their boss is an asshole or how worried they are about their sick fucking cat and you can fuck them. Once you fuck them, it's up to you whether you want to be in a relationship with them or not.
Bar chicks sound gross. How old are they?
>All women want is someone to listen to their bullshit. Just pretend like you care
I've heard this before. I know to do this shit.
This doesn't sound like good options though.

>>13169373
>Why are there fewer "encounters" in modern society? Why is it going in this direction?
Rat race for jobs, good schools, work day encroaching into free time, lack of stable careers (people constantly moving around for work have a more difficult time maintaining friends, relationships), more people living with parents, social media mostly designed around either existing relationships or conversations between strangers, very difficult to cultivate deep friendships, commodity relations taking over all other relations.

In short: capitalism.

>>13169290
>girls are just emotional and make shit choices because of it
They go off of their gut, and their gut occasionally tells them to make shit choices.

>>13169298
>It's like herbivoring like Jim from The Office is a viable romantic strategy these days.
What? Explain this. I don't know what you're describing.

>>13169314
How did that end?
Still seems like an odd direction to go in life. Like, I'd be very judgemental of a guy with the same goal.

Recession when

>>13169420
>What? Explain this. I don't know what you're describing.
If you become friends and wait long enough the girl you like will break up with the guy she's fucking and eventually pick you.

That's what Jim did in The Office. Idk if its linked but Jim/Pam from The Office are one of the iconic romances for millenials.

>>13169429
Oh it wasn't a serious relationship, we just went on a couple dates. Though I absolutely had a crush on her. On graduation I shook her hand and told her I knew she was going to do great things.

>>13166022
that new titanium card is going to absolutely JUST all AAPL shorts.

>>13169352
Kek
This is true.
Have you seen a guy with phaux-wealth before though? A high school football player with a nice car that he shouldn't be able to afford?
Does flaunting your wealth necessarily work? Perhaps sometimes, but not on every girl.

Also, why would you flaunt your wealth?
- what kind of girl would it attract?
- is this the kind of girl you want?
- if it is and for the kind of relationship that you want out of them, aren't there more effective ways of attracting them?

>>13169439
12-18 months from inversion. So March 2020 - September 2020

>>13169439
Dependent on many factors: trade deal, oil prices, crop yields.

Soonest if: no trade deal, oil prices have big movement in either direction, bad crop yields cause massive agricultural defaults.

Max: about a year.

>>13169496
Depends what inversion metric you use tho. Some inverted back in early december, so we could see something as early as july or so.

>>13169480
>Apple's latest Tesla hire may point to powertrain for full-scale 'Apple Car'
>AppleInsider-4 hours ago

:) my calls!

>>13169492
if they know where you work they're going to sniff it out. and that's usually one of the first questions

>>13169527
Just let it drop that you trade stocks for a living and the room's humidity skyrockets from all that extra moisture.

>>13169492
>Have you seen a guy with phaux-wealth before though?
See it all the time. The guy driving around the car he can't afford, putting fancy meals and drinks on his Amex Gold Card that he can't afford, wearing clothes he can't afford, etc. meanwhile he has a mound of debt and no long-term stability.

>Also, why would you flaunt your wealth?
I'm not necessarily saying you need to flaunt your wealth. You can have nice things without being overly flashy. I'm just talking about the implication. You can dress nicely, afford to pay for dates, have a nice apt/live alone instead of a crowded shitbox with roommates, have a nice car instead of a beater (but nothing too stupidly flashy), etc. not because it shows you like to spend money but because it implies some sort of stability.

It shows that you will be able to provide for them over the long term after Chad's debt catches up to him. It sets you apart (to some degree) from the chads who didn't actually making it and have nothing to show for their lives at 25 after all their poor decisions caught up to them.

>>13169439
Penciled in for 2020.

>>13169419
Thanks. I think you're right, and I've always been impressed by how observant/perceptive that you are.

At one point in time, humans were cave man and lived in caves or whatever. They formed tribes and stuck together in, like, hunting groups.
They probably formed very close bonds that probably lasted a lifetime. In fact, these tribes possibly transcended generations and were like wolf packs.
Then, at some point in time, we had Babylon, Sumeria, and the Roman empire.
It was more capitalist. Yet, Christianity came about in some context involving the Roman empire, right?
And the Christians condemned promiscuous behaviour.
Given this, did humans become more degenerate going from tribes to where they stood under the Roman empire?
Are we more degenerate today than under the Roman empire?

I wonder if zoomer girls will still be into older guys like how gen xers get wet over the boomers?
There'll be a shortage. They'll have less money. Guys their age or probably fitter by far.

>>13169439
I think pencilling it in for 2020 sounds about right as well.

>>13169453
>If you become friends and wait long enough the girl you like will break up with the guy she's fucking and eventually pick you.
Idk if they'd necessarily pick you.
Many times, even if a chick becomes available, if she simply isn't attracted to you like that, she'd still relegate you to "just remaining as a friend".
But yeah, if you're up for waiting around like that while some other dude is fucking her and you'd still be interested, then I guess that's a viable strategy.
>That's what Jim did in The Office. Idk if its linked but Jim/Pam from The Office are one of the iconic romances for millenials.
I do NOT like to associate with millennials.

YVR

PLUG

fat gains this week

>>13169583
>Are we more degenerate today than under the Roman empire?

Hard to gauge that. Roman empire got pretty darn lewd. This seems to go in cycles through history. Things get lewder and lewder until the society has a breaking point backlash. Flips to conservative, then prudish to the point of absurdity, then loosens up, the cycle repeats.

>>13169603

Of course. That's a constant.

>>13169480
That card does look pretty sweet. That's definitely going places.

>>13169527
Kek they do like to ask that!

>>13169548
>and the room's humidity skyrockets from all that extra moisture.
Fucking kek

>>13169583
>Are we more degenerate today than under the Roman empire?
you are like ignorant baby

>>13169614
>Of course. That's a constant
Androgyny is becoming a thing again though. Girls could start pulling toward less risky femboys. The general trend seems to be toward the risk adverse relationship.

>>13169603
there will always be girls that like older guys.. and there will always be girls that like younger guys.. there will always be girls that like fat guys.. there will always be girls that like skinny guys.. there will always be girls that like a hairy man.. there will always be girls that like a bald man.. there will always be girls that like dick

Hey guys. So I know you don't like basic questions. But i rcently entered the market and feel really bad for myself. I started with investing 700$. But they were bad stocks. Managed to hang onto $366. I would like to be able to recoup the several hundred I lost and get out of this game. Would you recommend just cutting out now, or investing in some kind of "safe stock" to make back the hundreds I lost? I really dont just want to watch those hundreds go down the drain. Has anyone else been in this kind of situation?

>>13169652
>there will always be girls that like a bald man

>>13169661
you never throw in the towel when it comes to investing for your future.. you need to add to that account and build

>>13169661

>Lost 50% of his net worth in a few days

Lol, wtf?

>>13169553
Nailed it.
The gold diggers try to sniff out long term stability.
>after Chad's debt catches up to him
>"I THOUGHT YOU WERE RICH THO!!! :'("
It's so lovely when you get to see women showing their true colors

>>13169603
I have to agree with the guy that said yeah, it's a constant.
Chicks go after older guys. It's hilarious and stupid.
>I'm not like the other girls. I'm SO mature for my age.

>>13169680
Probably fomo'd into a P&D. I made that mistake my first week.

>>13169661
Take this as a learning lesson not to try to pick individual stocks when you have no idea what you are doing. Take the $366 and invest it into VOO or VTI and don't check it for many years and keep adding to it every paycheck

>>13169583
The early empires were characterized by humans confronting slavery and money for the first time in history. Some theorists say this is when patriarchy first emerged, in the backlash against prostitution, the idea that "our women" could be bought. There existed periods of relative sexual "liberalism" and "conservatism". Augustus was big on mores and against promiscuity for example. Divorce was relatively liberal in the roman empire though.

But this question of degeneracy is only meaningful really from our modern perspective. The sexual mores of small tribes is almost always idiosyncratic. Some customs permit many wives, a handful permitted many husbands, most had child marriage, and in some there was an elaborate system of social ownership where a handful of powerful men "owned" all other members of the community in a formal sense and marriage was organized around their trading of these members. Perhaps the one constant was the organization around customs, whether you can argue these were more or less "Degenerate". What the advent of the market did was blow out these customs, and allow relations of pure, arbitrary exploitation. The rule of money is a law all its own, and it knows no humanity.

>>13169661

Identify the type of trade(s) that exposed you to that much risk. Don't do those sorts of trades anymore. Learn from this and keep going.

Do not quit. You're right at the important crux of the learning process where you are ready to absorb good information like a sponge. I'm a strong proponent of that idea that you can't learn properly until you take a nasty loss or two that really hurt.

>>13169614
>>Are we more degenerate today than under the Roman empire?
>Hard to gauge that. Roman empire got pretty darn lewd.
>>13169628
>>Are we more degenerate today than under the Roman empire?
>you are like ignorant baby

Well, this is roughly the point that I was driving

>>13169694
>>13169711
Thank you...appreciate it. Guess I’ll just do a lot more research, and try to make really smart decisions.

>>13169652
I think he was shooting for the average or what to expect from them.
And it's most likely a strong preference for sad, old dicks.
The zoomer girls will have daddy issues just as bad as the millennial girls, but we'll all try to frame it as "simply and inherently different somehow"

>>13169731
Dam n i can't wait to be a zoomer daddy

>>13169661
>>13169711

Also, to answer your last question; yes. I have lost obscene amounts of money of stupid trades. Embarrassingly, it took a couple of those before I smartened up and started to learn.

>>13169726
For sure. You'll be fine. Although do keep in mind that even the best and/or safest trading strategies will have inevitable drawdown periods. Learning how to weather through those is important too.

>>13169661
Kekekek. I once lost like $10k at open. I had never done more financial research on a company in my life.
I now have about 30k in Robinhood.

Why are you unwilling to pull out until you break even?
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost#Loss_aversion_and_the_sunk_cost_fallacy
It's important to note that you are choosing not to double down on your risk, which says to me that you have "learned a lesson" and are choosing not to take the same course of action that you had originally taken because you view it as a mistake.
Please see here:
>>13169025
We've all been there

>>13169731
Younger chicks are pretty easy.. just have a nice car and hold yourself well.. ill probably be fucking girls in their 20s until i'm 60

Just won 8k at the casino, I appreciate everyone's good luck earlier. Its what helped me win

>>13169759

Excellent! Now go all in on bioshit.

>>13169694
Is that what you do?
If not, why?

>>13169751
>Although do keep in mind that even the best and/or safest trading strategies will have inevitable drawdown periods

High volume momentum trading doesn't. Its the greed that ends up fucking you. Tried that a bunch when I first started before I learned to read indicators and do dd. Turned me into a bagholder.

>>13169766
It is what I do. I wouldn't suggest advice I don't believe in and practice myself.

>>13169756
>I once lost like $10k at open

Every day at open RH makes my account 30,000 dollars richer because of how they handle options prices and it disappears within 30 seconds.

>>13169716
people have always been degenerates

also "degenerate" is a relative term, everyone has different standards to what it means

for example, there are multiple first hand sources that quote the first christian empress of the roman empire Theodora (wife of the first christian emperor, Constantine) expressing sadness that her nipples holes wernt big enough to fuck, because she could only fit x amount of dicks inside of her mouth/ass/pussy at a time (she had regular orgies involving dozens, sometimes literally hundreds, of slaveboys gangbanging her, because emperors wife can afford the best...)

morals are a reflection of the timeperiod you are in, morals are not unchanging and constant throughout history, they never have been

punishments have historically been much more cruel and shocking compared to modern time ones too

>>13169784
It actually creates a weird accounting glitch where they don't call my margin even when I lose thousands

>>13169788
>Theodora (wife of the first christian emperor, Constantine) expressing sadness that her nipples holes wernt big enough to fuck, because she could only fit x amount of dicks inside of her mouth/ass/pussy at a time
lol that's some doujin level shit

>>13169697
So you're maintaining that modern society and society under the Roman empire could be thought of as equally degerate, and that money is the reason why because it either manipulated or allowed people to kind of transcend social norms and customs

Given that money and the free market are the source of society's problems, and that even in the USSR, free trade could still arise via the black market, is there any way to go about trying to close the Pandora's box that money and capitalism has brought us?

>>13169746
I heard seeking arrangements is the best place to pick up chicks that are looking for a sugar daddy.
Most of the chicks are college age, which would put them either at "zoomers" or borderline millennials

>>13169697
>>13169830
A great case study in how money has manipulated/influenced societal customs and norms:
>>13169846

>>13169757
Kek
Isn't there usually an age difference in your relationships though?
You definitely aren't dating girls your own age, right?

>>13169757
>not fucking girls in their teens

>>13169874
>Being the 29yr old at a Junior prom

>>13169883
fucking kek

>>13169871
>Isn't there usually an age difference in your relationships though?
my ex gf was 2 years older than me.. my gf before that was 2 years younger than me.. i've only fucked a few girls this year and they've all been 22-27.. i'm 28

>>13169874
I'd fuck an 18 year old... buutt.. i wouldn't date one.. I don't think i'd date any girl under 21 just because we wouldn't be able to do certain things together..

>>13169780
Based.

>>13169784
I've experienced that too. I thought it was a fucking whale screwing with shit.

I wonder where comfy is with that movie? Hmmmmmmmmm.....

>>13169892
>I've experienced that too. I thought it was a fucking whale screwing with shit.
I read up on it, apparently they do options prices by averaging the bid/ask or something.

>>13169874
Kek this

>>13169883
That would be a mind blowing experience

>>13169889
>>Isn't there usually an age difference in your relationships though?
>i'm 28
Half your age plus 7 is the rule of thumb for what's creepy
21 is fair game, dude.
Also, under 21 all the way to 18 or 16 is legally fair game depending on the state -- just because it's creepy doesn't mean it's illegal

>I'd fuck an 18 year old... buutt.. i wouldn't date one.. I don't think i'd date any girl under 21 just because we wouldn't be able to do certain things together..
Like what? Drinking?
What if she has a fake ID?

>>13169830
well I think maybe the romans were a little more degenerate in terms of sex because they didn't have anything better to do in their free time lol.

But regardless, no I don't think we can completely eliminate the market and money at least with society at it's current level of development. The USSR often did have better personal/social/sexual relationships, however, and the reason was because of good community programs, education, and guaranteed employment. I think decommodifying certain industries is possible, that we can have food, housing, water, electricity, some kind of job available for everyone, as well as allow people to have more free time with a shorter work day. These things would make a big difference.

>>13169846
I think there'd be a lot less women looking for sugar daddies and more women dating their peers (relatively speaking) if things like tuition at public university's were free and we had these kind of public programs I mentioned.

That said, I would be lying if I hadn't thought about relations like that before, of using capitalism and money like that to my advantage. Probably the greatest temptation it can offer.

>>13169912
>I read up on it, apparently they do options prices by averaging the bid/ask or something.
Kek, yeah.
Sometimes there'd be a price that doesn't make sense, like it'd be cheaper than ones that it shouldn't be (so you could arbitrage spreads) or it'd be profitable to buy at that price and execute immediately.

>>13169889
I'm 36. My Wife is 29. I make shit income. But we live decently and have zero debt.

>>13169920
when i was 22-23 i had a girlfriend that was 20.. I remember when she turned 21 i really didn't want to do all that new to being 21 shit so i won't do it again.

It'd just be a pain in the ass to do certain things with someone under 21.. atleast with the lifestyle i have..

>>13169944
as long as you're happy...

>>13169829
well she was an "actress" (actor=prostitute in roman times) before she got married, so she probably had seen some sick shit, even before Constantine became emperor (they were married before he got power)

people have always been kinky as shit, theres a couple shitty roman emperors (commodus, caligula, nero?) who had furry orgies (tons of people dress up in animal furs/costumes and fuck eachother all night...)

and of course bestiality used to be way more common (but still looked down upon by the majority)

Zeus fucked so many women as various animals (as a swan, as a bull, as an eagle multiple times, even as a housefly fucking some human girl once...) and as not an animal (he fucked one girl while he had transformed himself into a "golden shower"). he even created a cloud that some mortal man ended up fucking and impregnating (the baby from the man and a cloud shaped like a girl ended up screwing horses when he grew up, creating centaurs)

ancients were fucked up alll around the world, Zeus is just one great example (he fucked 80+ different children/animals all on his own if you read all the stories about him, not even mentioning the many adult women)

>>13169874
teenagers are terrible lays, (18, 19 year olds anyways, idk how younger would be better though)
also sex with a virgin girl is an absolutely awful fuck, and tightest girl ive ever been with was ironically a MILF (actually in my experience single moms tend to be tighter than single non-moms)

>>13169920
>>That would be a mind blowing experience
getting gangraped in prison probably is too, doesnt mean its an experience you should want


>>13169952
>I remember when she turned 21 i really didn't want to do all that new to being 21 shit so i won't do it again.
that shit is the worst, at 26 now i shudder when i see girls under 21 on dating apps, because most are so damn cringy with that shit

>>13169983
>also sex with a virgin girl is an absolutely awful fuck
>having sex with a virgin for the sexual pleasure
It's all about the sadistic feeling of ruining the first thread in a young girl's sexual tapestry.

>>13169927
>But regardless, no I don't think we can completely eliminate the market and money at least with society at it's current level of development. The USSR often did have better personal/social/sexual relationships, however, and the reason was because of good community programs, education, and guaranteed employment.
I can definitely believe that given other statements in this post/thread.
>I think decommodifying certain industries is possible, that we can have food, housing, water, electricity, some kind of job available for everyone, as well as allow people to have more free time with a shorter work day. These things would make a big difference.
Any policy that's abusable will be abused to the point of breaking. The USSR failed because it had too many rules that were too fragile.
If you look up George Soros on Wikipedia, you'll see that he apparently played a role in the downfall of the Soviet Union.

>I think there'd be a lot less women looking for sugar daddies and more women dating their peers (relatively speaking) if things like tuition at public university's were free and we had these kind of public programs I mentioned.
>a lot less women looking for sugar daddies and more women dating their peers
Well, that's the way that I wish things were and I kind of agree.
However, it's been said in health class that women physically mature a little earlier, and so although the whole sugar daddy thing would disappear, I still imagine there'd be some kind of social status thing and that girls would still date guys that were at least a little older.
>That said, I would be lying if I hadn't thought about relations like that before, of using capitalism and money like that to my advantage. Probably the greatest temptation it can offer.
Ok, so you understand that and try to avoid situations where money has an influence in your relationships?
Do you not cover a girl's food on dates?

>>13169999
>>It's all about the sadistic feeling of ruining the first thread in a young girl's sexual tapestry.
too true,
I see you are also a man of refined tastes

also nice quads of truth

>>13169999
>>13170024
Checked and based

>>13164896
What's the best way to make a profit during a crab market?

>>13169952
>when i was 22-23 i had a girlfriend that was 20.. I remember when she turned 21 i really didn't want to do all that new to being 21 shit so i won't do it again.
>all that new to being 21 shit
Like what? Drinking and... more drinking?
21 was not a huge milestone for me. I spent my 21st doing a studying binge for a final exam.
>It'd just be a pain in the ass to do certain things with someone under 21.. atleast with the lifestyle i have..
Most drugs are illegal regardless of age, dude
Kek

>>13170001
>Any policy that's abusable will be abused to the point of breaking.
Certainly there may be abuses in any such program, but I think most of them could be mitigated with the right restrictions and focusing on goods that are not easy to transfer or are non-excludable to begin with.

> The USSR failed because it had too many rules that were too fragile.
Well you break that statement down and it comes down to the collapse of discipline imposed by the communist party which was the basis for it's entire economic and political system. The good new for us is there we're beginning at a point where social control is much more sophisticated.

>Ok, so you understand that and try to avoid situations where money has an influence in your relationships?
Well I don't seek it out, though I feel happy to help out partners whenever I can when money's involved.

>Do you not cover a girl's food on dates?
I will on occasion, but most of the people I've dated or been partners with have been pretty independent and don't like it if I spend too much money on them. End up spending more on eating out with my mom lol

>>13170048
Daytrading SPY options.
I think crab market is over monday though.
Trade deal, rate decrease, golden cross bullrun until we hit ATH and crash

>>13170048
Dividends, fixed income.

>>13170059
>I think crab market is over monday though.
I'd rather not get my hopes up... Also I'm scared of dumps.

>>13170048
sell options

>>13170050
theres a lot of things that require you to be over 21.. like entering certain buildings that might have some good food... fuck.. even at Dave and Busters you have to be over 21 after 8 and thats basically just an arcade..

I don't drink all the time.. but if myself and a group of people want to go somewhere for a couple drinks or an event.. i don't want to be held back because my significant other can't go due to age.... it would really just be a pain in the ass for my life style desu..

>>13170065
a predictable market only lasts long enough for people to figure out how to predict it. By Thursday I'd nailed the index movement to a T, but then come close Friday it did the opposite of what I expected it would if we were gonna continue crabbing.

So one of my online classes says i need an appropriate profile picture.. I was thinking this picture.. anyone have suggestions?

>>13169983
>teenagers are terrible lays, (18, 19 year olds anyways, idk how younger would be better though)
>also sex with a virgin girl is an absolutely awful fuck, and tightest girl ive ever been with was ironically a MILF (actually in my experience single moms tend to be tighter than single non-moms)
These are both terrible how so? Because they don't know what they're doing?
I like it when people have no fucking idea what they're doing.

>>I remember when she turned 21 i really didn't want to do all that new to being 21 shit so i won't do it again.
>that shit is the worst, at 26 now i shudder when i see girls under 21 on dating apps, because most are so damn cringy with that shit
I have no idea what "all this new to being 21" shit is. Fucking drinking, partying, and going to bars? Is that it?
What do you see on their profiles that's cringy? Just that they think that "going out" is the coolest thing ever in their world?

>>13170087
Find a picture of your professor's children... you'll get an A for sure.

>>13169999
Kek, what a man of refined tastes.

>>13170048
>>13170073
This. Selling options seems like a good idea.

>>13170096
>I have no idea what "all this new to being 21" shit is. Fucking drinking, partying, and going to bars? Is that it?
>Is that it?
basically.. yes.. it takes a couple years for people to grow out of their teenage mindset. Most people go out drinking on their 21st birthday and by the time they're 23 they're tired of the bar scene but linger around until 25 then only go once in awhile after that.. unless they're alchys

>>13170105
yeah.. sounds like a great idea..

DUMP TIM
SELL THE RUMORS

>>13170073
>but if myself and a group of people want to go somewhere for a couple drinks or an event.. i don't want to be held back because my significant other can't go due to age.... it would really just be a pain in the ass for my life style desu..
Well, I don't like to bring my significant other when I'm out with friends, possibly even if it's really late into a relationship. That's just a very different group of people; it's dudes, and they can't necessarily be themselves when a chick that has emotions and shit is around kek

>>13170140
what rumor? Apple is already oversold, showing up on all the RSI charts.

>>13170086
>a predictable market only lasts long enough for people to figure out how to predict it.
Fact.
Fucking fact.
I only rely on fucking stats. This is why I wanted a machine learning model to trade for me. Intuition is shit. It's all about statistically proven. The market is not easily modelled and predicted. Anything that a normie can predict will be exploited until the pattern is broken.

>>13170087
Preddy gud.

>>13170123
I see. Cool.

I was comparing my holdings to insider buys and sells using simply wall st. I noticed that, surprisingly, Microsoft has seen huge insider sales over the last year with negligible buys. This includes Satya himself, to the tune of 35 mil last August. Would consider this to be a sell indicator? How do you regard insider trades as a metric or indicator in general?

Maxar saw a lot of insider buys last month. But their executives seem to be broke.

We could use a new thread.

NEW BREAD?!?!?

>>13170142
people do go out as groups.. my ex and I would always go do stuff with other couples.. usually when a group of friends go out its like 10 guys to 8 girls...

>>13170178
The people at the top always fucking know, dude.
Mark Zuckerberg was fucking dumping shares hard before end of Q2 last year.
It's a better indicator than looking at the financial ratios themselves, imo.
The patterns that normies can pick up in shit like P/E ratio are pretty much already exploited/utilized to the point of not meaning much.

>>13170181
We could use a fucking movie on movie night

>>13170187
>top heavy muscle
Do some flutter kicks girl.

>>13170152
Looks like ~60%, towards overbought?

Are you saying people are going to sell Apple?

>>13170195
My friend group is pretty saturated with incels. This seems like a bad idea.

>>13170204
comfy has failed YET AGAIN
if anyone's still down I could fire one up

>>13170221
>>13170221
>>13170221
NEW THREAD

>>13170208
https://finance.yahoo.com/u/yahoo-finance/watchlists/rsi-bearish-cross/

People are gonna buy apple because investors that like what they saw at the event finally found a dip to jump in after people sold the news.

>>13170123
No alchys who go out to bars are retards I e women who want to be "seen" Real alchys don't give a shit about being around and drink alone.

>>13170200
This Elon Musk guy seems to be buying a lot of TSLA, should I go all in?

>>13170248
>No alchys who go out to bars are retards I e women who want to be "seen" Real alchys don't give a shit about being around and drink alone.
This sounds true.
Alcoholism is about drinking alone. You just go for cheap shit that you like, buy it in bulk for the best deal. Why the fuck would you go out to bars to drink if you just care about the drinking part?

>women who want to be "seen"
Kek. This reminds me of all the "male gaze" shit that I've recently read.
Apparently women feel very powerful when they get a dude to look at them

>>13170229
What are you talking about? When was this list made?

Apple has already recovered and is up from where it was at the start of trading on Monday.

>>13170259
Kek.
He times his buys and sells to though.
You think he doesn't fucking care, and it's really hard to tell if he does truely care, but he's definitely timing that shit

>>13170300
What platform is that?

>>13170628
Schwab