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>>13158003
indoctrinated slaves, and highly advance maths.

Well paid craftsmen in need of work in the off seasons

>>13158003

makes no sense to seriously discuss this. the true history of earth and civilization is hidden

>>13158011
? it's literally just a triangle tho

>>13158037
i meant the methods of bringing the resources to build, the triangle is definitely an easy object.

>>13158003
So many theories. The most logical I find is that the pyramids where there before the egyptians. Doesn't explain how it was build though. Debating how the pyramids were built is the same as debating how coral castle was built. Maybe some kind of sound technique.

>>13158061
>coral castle
whats so impressive about that?

Or maybe an intestellar contractor lend them the equipment charging high interest rates. Hence the priests always need your money and still do because most of organized religion stems from egyptian elite and they're still indebted because of those pyramids. Would also explain why they indebt us. It's a classic victim becomes the bully scenario.

Post yfw you realize the pyramids had faster block times than bitcoin

>>13158088
Those coral blocks weigh a ton and the dude did it in late 1800's early 1900's without any modern equipment completely by himself. (supposedly)

>>13158061
>What are counterweights

>>13158113
I don't know dude. I'm not some kind of engineer or something. I'm just a dude admiring some other dude's work.

they just slide that shit up with alot of people, animals and ropes

>>13158090
lol that's the best theory I've ever heard

From looking at them society had to have been very very organized. I doubt Egyptians built the good ones (there are crap copies that are disproportional and fell apart) same goes for the central American pyramids
no relative culture we know of built them
they're probably 12k+ years old and that civilization was destroyed by the meteor shower and floods 11.6k years ago

Well the human brain hasn’t evolved that much in the past few thousand years. So they were basically as smart as we are now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug-vIoGK1Dw

>>13158003
With wooden frames filled with agglomerated limestone concrete. It was poured in place, obviating the need to use brute manpower to move heavy stones.

>>13158003
Its simple. Some high tech ancient civilization helped them. Probably aliens. There are many evidence around the globe dated for thousands of years ago. Just read Ancient Astronauts.

Aliems

>>13158126
So we as humans were over charged for shoddy work, but still have to pay the debt. Actually makes sense.

>>13158003
The law of one - you're welcome.

>>13158143
>>13158146
still doesn’t make sense, how does an alien lift even one block up?

Keep in mind they were built b4 the dark ages when the continuity of history and crafts was broken.
Nothing magical bout pyramids. If you cant 100% replicate the technique doesnt mean it was et n shit. Not only we dont know how pyramids were made, we dont know 100 other little things bout ancient civs. Does that mean sea people were et who decided to destroy the world? Or is diqus festos an example of et language, since we dont understand it? Nope

a Rothschild once said, they were built to honor the last of a Bloodline

Which bloodline? I dont know. I think its the B'nai Ha Elohim, aka the Sons of God, aka ayylmaos, who came down to earth and raped humans or neanderthals or homo erectus or SOMETHING I haven't been able to figure it out but I feel like its true

>>13158003
Brainlet here, what makes the pyramids so mysterious? Why are they so hard to build?

>>13158143
>>13158126
>>13158090
>>13158146
>new study shows that 70% of Americans believe the pyramids were built by aliens
man those americans sure are dumb

>>13158187
Based schizo poster

I'll summarize all the theories I've heard so far
>Slaves built them
>Toth build them in the 4th dimensional realm and it manifested in the third realm (this realm)
>Sound and vibration lifting the stones
>They were built by a highly advanced society before Egyptians
>Pyramids were mountains and rocks laid down bottom-up because of it.
>liquid limestone
>made by aliens... kind of the same as the toth thing
>just some brilliant out of the box engineering like Jean Peare's internal ramp theory.

Search for Bright Insight on YouTube. He has many videos debunking the mainstream archeologists. Basically it's this:

The time frames do not add up. Cutting the block, transporting it and then placing it takes way too much time then they had. The years don't match up. They had bronze tools and were cutting limestone and even granite. Yes it is possible, but it takes way too much time. Then there's the whole secrecy surrounding the pyramids. The egyptian archelogy was basically ruled by this one guys who wouldn't let anybody research the pyramids. Did you know there is a hatch on top of the sphinx? You probably don't. There is literally like 3 pictures of the head of archeologist being on top of the Sphinx with the hatch open. It's a deep rabbit hole which is why I recommend watching Bright Insight. He explains clearly and with facts.

the methods were shown on their glyph. They wet the ground with enough labours.

>>13158003
Great business and finance thread

>>13158159
aliens probably sent a meteor shower to destroy civilization after we defaulted on our high tech loan
priests are like debt collectors who bought our debt for pennies on the shekel off the ayys, but in reality it was the jews who got jewed on this interstellar agreement

>>13158037
the pyramid has many measurements which go along with the golden ratio. i believe there are also measurements for modern Meters, as well as light years, as well as the Earths circumference and lots of other stuff. its not "just a triangle, its actually 8 sided

Hi retards, the stones are actually just cast from molds in which they pour a mix of sand, limestone and some other shit. They are NOT huge granite stones. The stones can be easily reproduced today using the same techniques as the egyptians.

Historians are too hard headed and zealous to admit it's this simple, it would hurt their whole business.

>>13158207
>with facts
Did you check any of the facts or are you just relying on your made up credibility of this particular dude with a camera?

>>13158229
Also, it makes sense the more you think about it. How else would the stones fit with each other so perfectly, easy, the blocks were not molded and dried at the same time, creating a perfect fissure between the blocks.

>>13158249
>Watch a video of the mainstream archelogists demonstrating how egyptians cut the blocks for pyramids
>It takes them like an hour to get a 5 cm cut into it
>Compare the timeframe the pyramids were supposedly built and now compare the time it took to cut the block without even accounting for the transportation or just building the pyramid
>it doesn't add up at all
There you go

>>13158194
I'm really not, but when a Rothschild tells you something you shouldn't disregard it. Their records go back thousands of years, they have their entire geneology recorded from even longer. Some ancient Greek historian mentioned that the Essenes (related to the Rothschilds) have records that go back generations, and this was what 300 BCE? So they have records that go back way farther than that. If you want to find out look them up

>>13158003
Seizing the means of production by the working class

>>13158281
Rothschilds will also tell you climate change is real and that humans are soley to blame. Better start showering 5 minutes instead of 20 minutes anon. I know how you like your showers but you can't keep ruining our planet like this

>>13158003
One theory: from the descendants of the Atlantes after the flood.

I've seen one other more recent theory. They were built literally by Free-masons at the end of the 18th, beginning of the 19 century. They used liquid stones.

Supposedly they did it to make humans believe that their history goes thousands of years back, when in fact the current world is only about 1000 years old according to this theory.


In the end we don't know who built it.

>>13158366
don't different civilizations have a written history that's cross referenced a few thousand years
I think they're way older than what mainstream archeologists say

>>13158366
I'd find it hard to imagine that something like that wouldn't have been noticed and passed down by elders. I've heard similar stories from Africa where elders testify they saw archeologists plant bones into the ground and then dig them up not very much later. The pyramids have been decently documented troughout history. OR SO I"M TOLD FUCKKKKKKKKK

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

ITTSS ALL A LIEEEEEE

>>13158366
You know newton wrote a book theorizing that human history has been overestimated and bragged up? Before astronomy was used as a historical date keeping they used an approximation of the length of one generation (18-25 years) and bragged that length up to 30-35 years.

The book is called The chronology of ancient kingdoms amended.

>>13158003
ayylmao

>>13158383
Supposedly, according to this theory, history is fasified by the 13 satanic bloodlines.

>>13158391
I agree that locals should have seen western free-masons building it at the beginning of the 19th century.

However, there are some books prior to this era which shows the pyramids with very strange shapes, way sharper than the actual ones. Like no one had a clue what their true shape is.

> I've heard similar stories from Africa where elders testify they saw archeologists plant bones into the ground and then dig them up not very much later.

Yes according to this theory the 13 satanic bloodlines falsify history. Same for dinosaurs, supposedly their never existed.

>>13158003
/biz/ - Business and Finance

>>13158334
no they dont, but they did tell me that a polar shift is coming and it will be catastrophic like the last one

>>13158459
Could just be extreme christians. I mean I've encountered christians making shit up to convince people of their faith more than I can count. The most clear example from the top of my head was falsifying and adding parts of the Theraveda (Pali canons). That Buddha prophesized a King of King and Lord of Lords(christ) to come who would <insert christian prophecies here>. Which he never did.

>>13158492
Yeah so did Einstein. Still not here. And even if it does happen, there's little you can do about it.

And yes they do
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vS1l2X_G9Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRuBndJwIiw&t=12s
And he says it even litterly in his own words that you are to blame. And then goes on about ''our children''. A fucking maffioso talking about ''our children''...

It's a hoax. And the Earth is likely flat.

>>13158459
>the 13 satanic bloodlines.
It is but not like that. The pyramids did exist idiot, but the 13 bloodlines did obscure history through the creation of:

>monotheism - judaism, christianity, islam, buddhism. all these religions were made up by the bloodlines. Jesus worked for the elite families
>time- time is an illusion forced on us through religion by these elites. Before this we did not have a sense of past present future, only the NOW, or the ONE. But when the elites came they indoctrinated us into believing religion, which is basically a timeline heading towards "end of times" and "revelations" etc etc. Its all just a Jew trick

Time and religion are social constructs. The only thing that is real is bloodlines and the present moment

Caesar called egypt the new world, not the old world. thats a clue

>>13158492
lol 2012 movies got u bro?

>>13158103
aye

>>13158522
as soon as he talks you can tell he's high IQ af

Water canals and elevators.

Reminder that this thread is just bait, do not bother posting serious replies. There's enough evidence to contradict any tinfoil hat argument such as aliens or giants, no one would unironically believe in that unless they frequent /x/

>>13158722
like almost all the threads on this board. So lets all stop posting.

>>13158003
Water tech.
With air inflated bladders you can move limestone up the Nile.
Water filled shafts allow you to float the blocks to the current top of the pyramid where you can push them into place before removing the bladders.
It's very clever.

>>13158003
We simply don't know. Most likely some ancient civilization that lived the lands way before the ancient egyptians. They are atleast 10 000 years old. Probably even much older, built by humans before the last cataclysm hit the planet.

>>13158531
sauce on that?

>>13158193

The massive size of the stones stacked up perfectly in pre-industrialized, barely out of the New Stone Age times. It’s all about “how the fuck did they get those huge bricks there without machines?

There are ways to do it. The precise measurements and alignment were very doable then. The hard part was moving the rocks around. Egyptians literally did not have slaves (that’s a Jew myth) but they did have the world’s most advanced engineers and artisans at the time. No one knows how they figured this out—-so, aliens.

>>13158113
Yeah but they didn't have steel, let alone iron so even if they were smart enough to utilize a counterweight pulley what on earth would they use to handle the structural stress and compression? There wasn't even much wood they could have used.

Maybe diverting the Nile and using rudimentary water Mills to slowly hoist blocks along the riverbed? We know they had advanced hydrology basically from the inception of their civilization.

>>13158736
>>13158722
>>13158739
Have some (you)s.
From an economic standpoint they must have had a MASSIVE surplus of labor to build those things. Only when a society is flourishing with huge surpluses does it decide to manually stack millions of tonnes of rocks. Whatever they were doing, it was working

Niggers, which is to say slaves. Lots and lots of nigger slaves.

>>13158366

The theory that all history was invented in the last 150 years by a massive conspiracy is the most retarded thing I’ve ever heard, especially since that would have required the entire population of the Western world to fail to pass down oral traditions from one generation to the next. A 75 year old talking to a child who lives to be 75 himself fucking bridges that gap. Not to mention artifacts, places, carbon dating. The only way to rationalize all that is to get into some delusional Matrix-tier shit.

>>13158003
pulleys and counterweights duh

>>13158801
Or they saw it an investment they knew would pay off, a lot of theories say using them as tombs was an auxiliary usage. Main usage could have just as easily been having a cold place to store grain in the desert. Being able to carry over food from one year to the next would have let them compensate for production shortfalls on bad years when nobody else could.

>>13158695
I don't think he's that smart. And in general I don't think IQ is a good measurement for intelligence. But I don't believe a word a Rothschild says. I don't care what they have to say about anything. I won't even consider their opinion. They are Mafia and I have no business taking anything they say as anything more but deception strategized in their own house.

>>13158814
There is historical evidence that the builders were paid workers. Back 2 /pol/

>>13158846
You sound like an apologist for slave owners friend.

Just build it up hill and push it down.

>>13158103
crickets

>>13158830
>artifact, places
Fake, made with liquid stone like megalithic temples around the world.

>Carbon dating
There is some controversy around carbon dating.

>A 75 year old talking to a child who lives to be 75 himself fucking bridges that gap.

Not if they are brainwashed in public schools like people are in the west since the Renaissance era.

>The only way to rationalize all that is to get into some delusional Matrix-tier shit.

That's true. But what if Matrix is more than a cool film, but basically our history?

In the end i don't prefer this theory or the pre-flood theory (Atlantis). I just don't have a definite opinion on the subject.

>>13158830
>measure c14 in fossil
>determine rate of decay
>''How much c14 was in it at death?''
>... I.. I don't know
>''So how old is it?''
>... ...

>>13158836
No, pyramids were literally tombs for pharaohs. They did stash some goods along with him/her because they believed the pharaoh kept on living after death and that they would consume those goods but that's about it. Pyramids were too unpractical to use as storages. They built proper granaries for that, no need for pyramids

>>13158846
There's archeological evidence, yes. There are a lot of town vestiges around the pyramids where the worker gangs would live and socialise. They were all paid by the royal court.

Remember as you scroll this thread, these are some of the same people handing out investment advice.
Do with that what you will

I advise you to sell. At very least this is an uncertain time with the potential to be devastating to the project. If it's positive and this is the conglomerate they have been talking about for years it is in fact already priced in.

I just lost 10 iq points reading this thread, sweet lord jesus, lead these brainlets out of the mud.

Science is a religion and it's a stupid religion. Question the shit you learned in a school book and it's not very hard to see that they haven't got a clue. But its making money.
You got your ''Black science guy'' ''Bill Nye the science guy'' ''National Geogrpahic'' ''Nasa'' all selling you the headlines and making the big boy bucks. But a closer examination of the so called ''facts'' shows rather quickly that they aren't as factual and are very much subject to debate. But questioning the almighty religion science just like questioning the vatican around the time of Erasmus, Luther and Calvin is an act of insanity.

>>13158003
Read up on Thoth. Yes he is the Egyptian deity of wisdom, but he was once an actual living being. He is largely attributed by the Egyptians as being the smartest person ever. He is often portrayed as a wizard like figure from another place, frequently(and likely incorrectly) referred to as Atlantis. The Greeks even deified him after learning of his teachings(Hermes god of scripture/writing). That nigga built the pyramids for sure, or at least taught the Egyptians how to do it, and he was likely an alien.

/forbidden knowledge thread

>>13159142
>forbidden knowledge
>gets broadcasted on public TV
Muh hidden knowledge. You do realize that the same cycle has perpetuated over and over where people start studying into occult, get bored with it and then a newer generation picks it up again?

1900's people were looking into this stuff. Got bored with it.
1960's people were looking into this stuff and got bored with it. Most of them are your money slurping boomers you always like to condemn.
And now people are looking into it again only to find out yet again that it leads them nowhere and they're only left with more questions but no practical knowledge or solutions.

This stuff has never been hidden and anyone who's intersted in fiction could always pick up a book. It's not nearly as ''forbidden'' as they like to tell you. But they're making a big truckload of money of it.

>>13158126
>I doubt Egyptians built the good ones (there are crap copies that are disproportional and fell apart) same goes for the central American pyramids
>no relative culture we know of built them
>they're probably 12k+ years old and that civilization was destroyed by the meteor shower and floods 11.6k years ago

Except there is organic material in the limestone of the pyramids that you can accurately carbon date.

Gobekli Tepi and the sphinx on the other hand....

>>13159142
Want to know the story of this guy? A literal 50 y/o NEET living with his mom who decided to write a book about ''living in the present'' and is now a millionaire and a guru.

You want to take advice from a sheeple chosen guru that was a literal failure at everything but is now making money telling you how to live your life? Give me a break. And he litterly even says this in his own words.

I could write a book with some shitty easily marketed title giving common sense advice and people will think I'm a genius for it. In fact this is 90% of the industry in lecture right now. Self-proclaimed or sheeple chosen guru's that give you advice that's been regurtigated a million times before. But they all buy into it.

>>13159202
>he doesnt know about hermeticism and rosicrucianism

>>13159313
I've been deeper than you ever will.

>>13159142
This is probably the most accurate answer. Thoth/Hermes was known as Enoch by the Hebrews/Phoenicians/Arabians.

And guess what the book of Enoch was about

And guess why it was left out from the bible

>>13159307
>Calling Eckhart Tolle a NEET

He sat on a bench for like 3 years too.
His book is good read but out of context he sounds like the biggest autist.

>>13159367
In the book of Enoch, Enoch is a human, great grand-father of Noah if i remember correctly.

The sons of anak

>>13158280
This

>>13158003
Only retards still think the pyramids are a mystery. They just used concrete and cement mixtures to mold their own sandstone blocks. That's literally it.

>what has been never existed
I'd advice to live to that motto. You're not going to wise up reading lecture about Toth and ancient mysteries. You will only invent belief systems. Nobody has a clue and anyone who claims they do is likely only trying to swindle money from you one way or the other. Bet 99.99% of you don't even know the UK is a registered corporation. But then again you probably think we stem from monkeys >.>

The world is a business.

decentralized oracles

>>13159436
>Enoch is a human

What kind of human? I think he was a Neanderthal. The Gods chose them as the chosen race. The elites today look like Neanderthals. They have no empathy/sympathy like other humans

Precursor civilization build it around 12000 years ago.
They died out because some fucked up shit happened to our solar system including mars literally exploding from being hit by a giant lighting bolt.

>>13159367
Enoch and Thoth are not the same being, despite many people believing this to be the case, but you have a better grasp than most ITT.

“The lips of wisdom are closed except to the ears of understanding”

>>13158003
I've never seen the egyptian pyramids but i unironically started believing in ancient alien theories after seeing a number of sites in south america. sacsayhuaman outside of cuzco, peru blew my mind in particular. it's a masterpiece. imported stones, literally the size of houses, that interlock so perfectly that they didn't even necessitate the use of mortar. i was there with my late grandfather, an esteemed stone mason, and he was moved almost to tears by the scale and quality of the construction.

>>13159367
>And guess why it was left out from the bible
why?

>>13159690
what i find almost more fascinating is that the quality of incan stonework actually degraded with time. here is a good example, with earlier stonework on the bottom, and more traditional, later incan stonework layered on top. really makes you think...

It was the civilization before us.
We are the 5th.

>>13159725
eh could just be more efficient to do it that way.

Much like how if you look at modern buildings made of concrete and steel they look far inferior to a lot of the Victorian/Georgian buildings in London.

>>13159500
Literally this. They would need to kickstart the fourth industrial revolution in order to pull off that shit

>>13158193
>>13158792
And also the types of stone used in some of their monuments like granite, quartzite, etc, that is literally impossible to work with the bronze age tools they had at their disposal.

And if the outside structure of the great pyramid is already hard to justify the huge granite structure inside it's double literally fucking impossible. Granite cannot be cut with copper tools. It's been scientifically proven a million times.

There are alternative theories such as the blocks being artificial and made from geo-polymer (they poured them into place) to other more sci-fi tier like a defunct and lost advanced human civilization using some sort of sound levitation to move these blocks and cutting them with light or even retarded theories like the ancient aliens.

Also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2wrWX8Kbmg

>>13159786
yeah but this isn't so much about efficiency as it is simply about how they did the damn thing to begin with. it's hard to think of a more inefficient structure than the great pyramid, for example.

>>13158061
oh boy coral castle was one of my firsts. thanks anon, it's been a while.

>>13159690
why would aliens use stone?

>tell your slave to build you a pyramid
>he doesnt so you kill him
>repeat until you get a pyramid

Joe Rogan already solved this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVGiK0mpWYA#t=5m42s

>>13158037
8 sides

>>13159690
You can’t deny there was a massive flood. You also have no idea how advance society was technology wise. They could’ve been light years ahead of where technology is today.

>>13160622
where is the evidence then...

Hard work, 100 years, 1000s men.

>>13158003
Jewish slaves who were forced to work for free obviously.

>>13158792
the jews also caused the bubonic plague. and make matza with the blood of christian babies.

>>13160634
Ask the architect...

>>13159141
This gave me a weird feeling, like For a second I literally just questioned everything I knew about modern science and felt like I found “the answer” but every time I find “the answer” I seem to forget instantly now I’m stuck here thinking to hard...... laying in bed, wondering what’s real.... again. Thank you anon, almost had the answer this time. Maybe next time

>>13158003

They stacked rocks on top of one another. Wild concept, I know.

>>13158003
Aztec immigrants