/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>13007314
in order of best for you
money>sex>crack
in order of best high
crack>money>sex
if u can combine these three u win

>>13007314
>>13000000
WoW.

holy fcking shit dude...?
25 y/o virgin?
Power off your PC, stop being on /biz/ and go for it.

Think about the reason you want to have money. At the end of the day, its all about getting the right pussy for you. You can achieve that by either making money or just by being socially above average

>>13007314
fapping to teenage girls on tik tok > money > sex

Money no doubt

>>13007314
Money feels better, accept when i fuk ur mum

>>13007314
Money, obviously

>>13007314
Sorry to hear you missed your teenage years. It's all money from here on out

Having sex with someone who makes you money

>>13007314
>25 yo virgin?
fuck your mother if you want fuck

I've fucked around 20 girls, not a crazy amount but not prudish either. Making money feels better. I stopped dating last year and been focusing almost entirely on accumulating crypto. I'll have plenty of time to date when I don't have to work 60 hrs/week.

>>13007314
>>13007314
Whore your virgin butthole out so you can have both feelings as one

>>13007314
Why you gotta ask?

>>13007409
Are you me exept 60 hours working ?

Making money for the sake of making money is wage slave mentality.
Raw sex and cumming deep inside while passionately kissing is one of the great pleasures of being human.

Wow go get some pussy you idiot! Why not have both

>>13007421
Gotta hustle. I'm putting $1k/month into crypto for the rest of the year. I only have moon stack that I haven't picked up yet. After that maybe I can chill out a bit.

>>13007438
I'm about 2/10 physically.

>>13007314
21 yo pseudo virgin here - money is more fulfilling and allows more autonomy than the meme of having copious amounts of sex. Unless you find the 'right' woman and are able to start a family, how is it any different from masturbating really?

>>13007442
Only have one*

>>13007450
>pseudo virgin
what did he mean by this

>>13007465
Probably fucked 1-3 girls before but very rarely and hasn't gotten any in forever.

>>13007314

money buys sex
sex doesnt buy money

>>13007476
I know someone who is 26 but hasn't gotten laid since he was 15. So yeah he might as well be a virgin.

>>13007314
Making money. Pursue this, not the pussy.
Good thing is you can and will have lots of sex after making money.

If I could feel envious, then I would envy those who are so average that literally every degenerate woman on the street is a potential romantic and/or platonic relationship target, both socially and intellectually. While I am forced to live looking at pretty much everyone in disgust... And in this state, you don't really care that much about sex. It's a minor thing. Money is of greater utility compared to sex, even if you would be in a relationship with a decent person. You both could do more together if you had money. Sex vs Money should really never be a question. It's always money.

>>13007465
>>13007476
Well I slept with a girl once, but it wasn't a pleasant experience - due to various environmental factors, I wasn't able to finish the deed, so to speak. Plus, I was shocked at how underwhelming the experience was, considering how highly its valued by normies.

never had good sex in my life. never had it where i feel like im just fucking the shit of the girl i want in my life and im just going as i please.
but ive made 300 dollars in like 20 minutes and that feeling is good. it feels like i dont have to show up to a job where everyone treats me like shit and the floor manager has favorites. making that money in that short time makes me feel like i dont have to take shit from anyone and im made a good decision that took brains and balls. it feels like i was able to rise above the lies that school taught me and all thsoe teachers that had a smirk. its like smacking my manager and co workers in the face with my dick. it feels great that there are other ways of getting a meal rather than dealing with baby boomer politics of "honest" labor. this is

Making money, as with it you can buy premium sex.
Either way you're always paying for sex.

>>13007501
It's much better with someone you're close to. When you trust each other you can do pretty much whatever you want to them.

>>13007543
Yeah, it was a weird relationship, she liked me more than I liked her. The sex was more because of the 'le pathetic virgin incel at 21' meme, not because of genuine passion.

>>13007476
I lost my virginity at 14 and have slept with around 20 women over the years, but for the last 6 years have been in a dry spell of no sex. Am I turning into a pseudo virgin too now?

>>13007585
Piss off you degenerate boomer, I explained what I meant by pseudo virgin.

>>13007314
making money, but only if it's more money than you made previously. Otherwise you plateau and it loses the magic. Sex is probably better then.

>>13007446
That doesn’t matter bro. All you have to have is confidence. Read the book “art of seduction” to never have this problem again. If you build on personality, confidence, it will outway your physical looks. Stare them in the eye and ask them what there doing later they will have no choice but to stare into your soul and see that alpha. Work on yourself. I changed my mentality and went from getting 0 girls to a different one every weekend. Then I got a girlfriend don’t make that mistake right away!

>>13007653
>I changed my mentality and went from getting 0 girls to a different one every weekend

But how good looking are you?

>>13007338
This, just B.E. yourself OP

Dude I only weight 128 pounds right now. I have achny all over my back, man boobs. I’m slightly balding and have dandruff. I love at home with my parents. I literally got hardly any girls growing up. I changed my mentality, and everything changed for me. I drive an old truck and have been wearing the same shoes for over a year. I don’t go shopping or do any of that shit I’m a mostly outdoors type of guy. Girls really don’t care about money so I’m trying to save you from Great Depression possibly in the future? My girl is a pretty good looking sex freak and she makes 80K a year. Girls who have money themselves arnt into money. It’s the users that are. Most girls have self confidence issues themselves and think there not pretty even though they are so they need that alpha male to just be like shut up you are pretty don’t be a baby! Us males shouldn’t be thinking like that. Just keep a clean shaved face, decent hair cut at first. Smell good. Show some kind of pride in yourself. My girlfriend loves me because her parents have never even owned a gun that type of shit and I’m her protector hero in her eyes it’s literally that easy

>>13007501
Happens to everyone, you didn't enjoy riding a bicycle the first time, probably, it's the same, practice let's you discover what's good about it. It doesn't necessarily mean having a lot of partners, it means a lot of intercourse. Still something that if "abused" will tire you. Top tier would be living a balanced life, which is extremely rare, I do not have that also, if it comforts you.

>>13007753
I agree. I had this girl I liked and I tried to have sex with her like 4 times and nutted in about three seconds each time. She was just too hot. Shit didn’t work out, she found a bigger dick. It’s been about a year and I have a different girl it doesn’t really matter

>>13007769
It started by going to a bon fire and I didn’t expect to get any she was a hot blond came walking around and I was just like HEY do you like going to the beach. She said yea, I said get my number down. She took my hat and said you can get it back when you take me to the beach. It was dark people were drunk. OP should not be worried about his looks

>>13007739
>Achny
Never gonna make it

>>13007314
The love of a good 3d woman

>>13007779
>OP should not be worried about his looks

This is useless unless you post a pic of yourself.

I bet you're at least 6/10

>>13007753
Fair enough, I'm not depressed by the situation, just gave my two cents. Money>pussy

>>13007785
Well thanks to my girlfriend the Achny is almost gone.

>>13007790

Well we both know I can’t do that here

>>13007346
kek

Sex feels good for a little bit then there's that brief moment of euphoria but then you're kind of feeling bleak after

Stacking money is solid, consistent satisfaction

Dude just stop jacking off too girls can actually sense that a guy has a bunch of testosterone built up and they can smell it and feel it. It goes way back, start reaserching shit on YouTube it doesn’t matter how ugly you are I can bet you that. Stop watching porn and seeing these girls with fake asses and titties. Show pride in yourself because your a human and a male you already made it brother. If your obese then start fasting wake up early eat food even build the lifestyle that makes you love yourself once you love yourself girls will love you. It’s not about the money that’s why people end up killing themselves later on. Money hungry hoes will leave u lonely and they don’t actually care about you brother and your happiness and thoughts, ideas. Hobbies

Eat healthy food*

>>13007430
this

>>13007314
making money
ever win a huge pot in the casino? i'd bet the dopamine released by the brain is much higher than busting a nut
sex is overrated
also i swear i envy you, i wish i was a virgin and never had sex before
once you start having sex with different women, you slowly lose what it really means to have sex
stay virgin, find urself a virgin wife and enjoy ur life faggot
i'd give up alot to go back to being a virgin and anyone that tells you otherwise is a lying faggot

MONEY

>>13007409
t. Virgin

>>13007502
> never had good sex in my life. never had it where i feel like im just fucking the shit of the girl i want in my life and im just going as i please.

Damn dude i know exactly what you are talking about. For me, I've always been insecure about being hairy and having moobs. Or not getting it up because of PIED (like 90% of the time, which has destroyed my confidence). But most of all, I've always prematurely ejaculated and the second I'm in, I have to go slow the feeling of having to bust immediately hits me. Only with 1 girl did I not experience this, and it actually made me go ok I get why everyone loves sex. It's supposed to be like this. She ended up dumping me lol but those 3 sex sessions were nice.

For me I didn't make a lot of money in 2017, but I was able to cash out like 50k and had over 300K in alts. All that of course crashed back down to 8K. For someone who was broke and lived check to check, I didn't have to worry about monthly bills and that felt amazing. For those moments I felt the ultimate confidence and even fucked one of my coworkers. But alas, she basically didn't want to meet up again when I busted quick.

So when I look back, for me it's sex over money. I wan't to have those fulfilling sex sessions where I can really fuck a girl and feel that bliss. Maybe all the anons saying money> sex already can fuck for 20 min and feel meh to it, but coming from a guy who always blows his load under a minute and has trouble getting it up due to body insecurities, sex is everything.

>>13007790
Dude I can confirm. I’m not ugly but I have two friends who I would rate anywhere from 3/10 to 5/10. They told me you just gotta shoot your shot man. You’ll probably get rejected a bunch of times but you’ll gain more confidence as you do it. You can even start by just flirting with ugly girls to make it less intimidating. Ultimately it’s about not giving a fuck what other people think Godspeed anon

>>13007977
Not true, I'm sure your mum can verify.

>>13007485
>virgin
>has gotten laid
I don't think you know what the word "virgin" means, maybe you're confusing it with "normie"?

This book teaches about every type of girl, their personality and how to penetrate them. Every type of approach.

an orgasm is fleeting
but lying in bed and caressing the one you love
being able to tell them anything
that grows on you
you end up missing the person

money is a safety net.
you can feel secure.
but you may never get the feeling of relief of holding your lover close to you.

a rich man can build his empire
but when two lovers are together
they live in their own universe.

>>13008183
I don’t think you know what the phrase “might as well be” means

>>13008220
Then she cheats on you while she's overseas on a "girls' holiday" with her friends and you end up feeling every bad emotion at once. What you're describing is an obsolete concept in the age of modern feminism.

>>13008312
>being this insecure
Never gonna make it.

>>13008312
t. Incel

>>13008318
>>13008323

Not him but cheating is way more common than you think. Especially if it isn't outright sex, before I got into a relationship and picked up some moral fiber I'd regularly dance with and make out with chicks who had boyfriends (some long term) and were still playing the field. Women will always keep an eye out for an upgrade.

>>13008312
What was her name, anon?

>>13008348
Cheating is common among bar slags. Don’t date bar slags.

>>13008364

Ok so.. the majority of women. It's more about the principle, you guys think chicks are these totally romantic, wonderful creatures when they're actually more practical than men are. If they're dissatisfied with their guy they'll leave you just the same so don't make your life about a girl. That's all I'm saying. Good phrase to remember:

>men are romantics posing as realists, women are realists posing as romantics

There's a reason why your gf will always nag and demand things from you. They see a relationship as a business deal coated with a superficial veneer of romanticism.

>>13007314

>>13008364
Nailed it.

>>13008353
I'm 27 and I've only had sex with 3 women but i fucked all of them hundreds of times including anal. Is there something wrong with me? Every girl i've ever been with wants a relationship with me and im a sucker because it turns me on to see women happy. Should i just learn to say no and go for one night stands?

I'm 27 and I've only had sex with 3 women but i fucked all of them hundreds of times including anal. Is there something wrong with me? Every girl i've ever been with wants a relationship with me and im a sucker because it turns me on to see women happy. Should i just learn to say no and go for one night stands?

>>13008449
Do both anon. Take things slow that was my biggest mistake.. genuinely us men should be dating multiple women at one time as in simply stating that your not looking for anything serious until you find one that you actually do want.

making money while having sex
aka: the life of a swing trader

>>13008449
You're doing fine. One night stands are degenerate and only good if you're insecure about your bodycount. They are not fulfilling in any other way. I would advise you to stick with longterm relationships that you are passionate about, but if the girls are just pressuring you into it then you're being a cuck. Maybe you should try to sleep with a handful of thots just so you know you aren't missing out much. You might appreciate longterm relationships more after that.

>>13008468
>>13008484 was for you.

>>13008386
>If they're dissatisfied with their guy they'll leave you just the same
As they should. Why would someone remain in a relationship they’re dissatisfied with?
>They see a relationship as a business deal
Essentially it is. In the ideal relationship, both parties want something the other has. Does that mean women are incapable of feeling love? Absolutely not

>>13008564

No, but they might be more practical about relationships than men are, and that's why many guys get completely blindsided. This is why building your own franchise and making money is still the most important thing in your life, women and relationships will naturally fall into place and you can't depend on them.

>>13007314
Money 100%.

>>13007314
Dude I'm fucking 30 yo khv, some people just aren't meant to be having sez so I'm a volcel I have autism, anger issues and am blind in one eye, I can't do Amy job that requires a high degree of visual awareness or join the army or police force.

Sometimes you just gotta punch your prostate and go through life. Feelsgoodman

making money. its much harder to make money. sex it wack. sex only good if you want a child. once u have money u can just get a escort once month or what ever,.

LSD+MDMA>>>SEX WITH SOMEONE YOU LOVE>>>>>LSD>>>MDMA>>SEX>>> SLEEPING>>>>>HOBBIES>>>>>>>>>>>>MAKING MONEY

Both feel good for different reasons. Half the fun of making money is having someone to cheer you on while you do it and be impressed once you pull it off.

>>13007314
Making money literally doesn't feel like anything. Once you make say 70 or 100k a year you don't even need any more.

>>13009523
>not having sex with the love of your life while you're both candyflipping
Damn, son, don't disappoint me.

>>13008468
Nah, you're doing it right.

Things get unhealthy with how you think about women if you go after new ones all the time. Same goes for women who sleep around a lot.

>caring so much about woman

never going to make it

>>13007329
>crack
you mean poor people coke ?

>>13007314
OP I lost my Virginity at 28.

It was with someone I loved and im honestly greatful that it was. Society builds up this pressure on men to lose their virginity but its really not a big deal imo.

tl:dr there is NOTHING wrong with you OP.

>>13009652
crack is just processed coke so... no... it's a completely different high

>>13007314
The 2017 bull run felt better than any sexual experience I have ever had.

>>13009687
Crack is utter shit.
t.not a coward did even smoke crack

>>13007314
Money. Sex is only fun if you have a decent partner and i do NOT like hookers

>>13009708
can confirm. I had went all in on ADA and got 11x when I sold. The only that sucked about it was this tax season.

>>13007314
Sex is hugely overrated

Honestly I don’t even enjoy it anymore. Weed and video games are better. I hate my job so making money is a chore.

>>13009636
Aren't women the meaning to life.

>>13009808
no

>>13009808

No, most people feel like woman can redempt themselves from their existential angst, like getting certain woman can close all their struggles through their life in a circle like "story", biology helps to feel like this

It doesn't close any shit

When you realize woman just feel good but they won't ever redempt you, you will be still seeking meaning next day

The only thing that can bring true meaning is something that knows it all, only that knows what is truly meaningful and what can bring true joy

>>13007314
If you start a business, the moment you make even a little money and then a little more money on top of that it's like having sex with 3 Playboy playmates all day everyday right until you run into your next snag. At which point it feels like the entirety of Hell itself has been transported individually inside every cell in your body.

A female body, assuming we are talking 8/10 and not land whales, is the best thing on Earth a man can experience, the money making leads to that basically, but there's a catch, good sex gets repetitive over time, still better than not having it

>>13007314
1 - Blowjobs
2 - Money

Distant 3 - Sex

t. 20k linklet chad

It's okay anon I have a buddy who goes to a public university, turned 21 months ago, and still can't get any of that easy college girl puss. Try popping a xanax in their drink I heard it helps the process be a lot smoother

>>13007314
I would tell you if you where not an ignorant fuck. pls die.

>>13007314
Making money, hands down.

The only thing better than making a pile of money would be the moment you realize an 8+ of 10 17 y/o virgin chick is in love with you

>>13007314
ooooh that's a hard one to answer

There are a lot of sad fucks with money in the Western world, mostly computer engineers in places like SF and Toronto who can't get a woman to look their way

>>13010225

The catch is that they will be sad fucks too if woman looked their way, the problem is deeper

>>13007314
nothing feels better than knowing your wealth has increased substantially, a mental orgasm is better than a physical orgasm.

Making huge amounts of money ofc, not the wagecucking wage money.
Think about this actually, if u want sex and have a gf u have to pretend that you care for her shitty ass life. You have to buy her uslss consumer goods which she will throw away anyway. You have to spend several couple of thousands on the marriage , the interior furniture and stuff. Mostly you have to take debt to impress her or you must at least earn very good money. And if she is bored from you in marriage she divorce you and get half of your belongings. I know a lot of married people who can't stand each other but they keep on married because they down want to go thru lawyer and stuff. Ofcourse making money is better.

>>13010225

That wouldn't change if they had a girl raping them of money and treating them like trash like many rich beta men end up with. They think being single is the worst thing but don't know what harrowing dependency is like.

Once you cum you'll just want to be left alone, even if the chick is crazy hot once you cum you don't care about that anymore and start seeing her as the annoying bitch she probably is. You never want to get rid of money..

>>13010629
But in 15 minutes you'll want to fuck her again.

>>13010951

I hope that's not your argument to say that girls are more meaningful or joyful than money, otherwise you are a full blown brainlet

>>13007314
ive one timed qt blonde virgins and sluts. best feeling ever is raw acceleration. 0-150mph in a fast car is an amazing feeling. i cant imagine what flying a fighter jet must feel like

t. boomer ex chad

>>13010993
Money is a means to an end. Not the end goal. You should have higher aspirations than just wanting to see a number go up. Women, having personal connections, and as a byproduct of that, creating a family and having a lifelong partner to share life experiences with in life should be more meaningful than the quest for money.

>>13011061

>sex

Do you realize a good wife is inherently different of what biologically speaking good sex is about? If you want a good family you would seek a girl that is boring and ugly

>>13007314
making money

sex with gf is boring but I'm a porn addict

>>13007314
Making money, duh.

Genuine questions. How does unprotected sex feel in comparison to an unprotected BJ? How does sex with a random girl feel compared to sex with a girl you love?

>>13007833
Ding ding ding the right answer
Plus you have to deal with her crap afterwards

hhhhhhhhhuhhhhhhh grug feel better if

hunting
,rocks
or Yabba Dabba Doo?

>>13011142
>if your gf gives great bj it feels almost as good as unprotected sex
>sex with random girl is boring and mechanical
>sex with girl you love is full of amazing feelings

I get laid around once a year, get fed up with the girl about a month later and ditch her.

How anyone can stomach spending your valuable time with a woman, when you could be doing anything else is beyond me

>>13007481
this. imagine having so much money you can nut into pic related girls several times a week.

>>13011255
Because your "girls" are 4/10

>>13011078
Unfortunately this which is why i was thinking of hiring a few good genetics women to have my children/breastfeed while my average boring wife treats them like her children. Will something like this work out?

>>13010018
>the best thing a man can experience
You're either 16 years old, live at home over 30, or plain old retarded.

>>13012393

Another thing is that beautiful woman have borderline genetics for their children, so if you have children with a woman like that your children will be impulsive, drug addicts and will ultimately fuck up everything

>>13012546
What if you raise them with a tough dad attitude? If this doesn't work then how do you get your children good genetics?

>>13007314
fkng cringe if not larping

>>13007314
When you're 25, that's when you should have sex because your body is at peak condition and your sex health as well.

But, like everything, the more you do it the less pleasant it gets.

Pro Tip: pay a hot hooker and enjoy while you're 25.
You'll thank yourself when you'll reach 40

>>13013436

if you are a tough dad they will just say you were evil all the whole time and the drug dealer boyfriend will be the hero of the movie

>>13007739
>I drive an old truck and have been wearing the same shoes for over a year.
wtf is this something you're not supposed to do? my shoes are 3 years old now and it didn't even cross my mind to buy new ones

>>13008386
based & redpilled

>>13007430
/thread

>>13013920

this is absolute FUD

My life sex, sex drive, enjoyment of sex, and quality + quantity of women improved ten fold from my mid 20's to now early 30's

>>13009808
the ubermensch is the meaning of life

>>13007314
it’s a tough choice but i’m going with making money. Really is no better feeling than watching a 10k stack turn into 100k over night.

>>13007314
probably making money

16 year old > sex
20 year old > violence
25 year old > money