/biz/ - Business & Finance

Several months ago.

>>12909646
but who told you this is even gonna pump? why should it? can be 20$ easily bu july.

>>12909680
why the fuck did they decide to fly out Il never get it. there is no fucking reason. a woman, very fat, runned down all the stairs, burned herself, but made it. why fucking launching? like birds? bah.

PS: the video of the dancing israelis on youtube has been removed.

may yehova be forgotten and all the jews killed, amen

Even if he was, there's no way BSV will ever get adopted.

>>12909681
Joke's on you fren.
Imma buy @ sweet $2 in Decrmber.

>>12909646
we have definite proof that both of those statements are false. so realize is not the word i would use.

>>12909714
Do you not know that he was doxed when he first "revealed" himself?
Are you not familiar with game theory?
Have you not read his writings other than twitter?
Have you ever seen some of his interviews and listened to what he says, not how he says it?

This is not meant as an attack, but rather a way to help people approach the matter in a different way

>>12909738
>Do you not know that he was doxed when he first "revealed" himself?
that is a false statement
>Are you not familiar with game theory?
sure sure
>Have you not read his writings other than twitter?
i have it's garbage and mostly just whining about people being mean
>Have you ever seen some of his interviews and listened to what he says, not how he says it?
yes he is a fucking cunt that uses emotional appeals instead off arguments. only effective on people who are empathizing. nothing he says stands up to logical scrutiny.

>This is not meant as an attack, but rather a way to help people approach the matter in a different way
i understand and like i said i understand why some people fall for him. different personalities, craig can get to those people that use emotions as their main decider. he is a conman a manipulator. while those that are not more intelligent but more logic based in their decision making can't for the world understand why anyone would fall for his bullshit.

Creegpak is Satoj, and
BSV is bitcoin?

I don't understand your denial on this topic. Are you not here to make money sirs? Why then, do you resist this information. I know Satoj is not the guru you have made him to be in your mind, but so what? Do the needful and bet on the right cow.

He doesn't seem very honest to me.

>>12909821
archives remember, not that there is no "previous version" of the post that appeared in 2014. meanwhile his other posts from that time period first showed up in the archives the next day.

he is fucking backdating his posts and people are actually touting it as evidence of his involvement.

>>12909837
*note

>>12909768
It's too tiresome to reply to you in full. You've made up your mind, time will tell.

>>12909821
Same old worthless wikileaks tweet that has no independent research, check.

>>12909837
Same old bad image with two screenshots of archive.today that doesn't say anything to those that don't already know what it's about, check.

>>12909646
Pre fork.

>>12909866
>time will tell
sure it will
>that has no independent research
how about you check it out yourself?
>Same old bad image
i made it a few days ago wtf are you talking about, and you can't read dates or something? i even circled it in red. a post dated to 2009 is first found by the archive in 2014 with no prior version? yeah that sounds plausible when earlier and later posts are _all_ found and saved within a day. what proof do you want?

>>12909882
btw independent research is important, i have tried to find craigs actual post about misspelling bitcoin for Bit Coin turned out to be a forgery at least i couldn't find it anywhere. the truth is craig never made a public post about bitcoin in 2009. in fact i couldn't find anything prior 2014.

>>12909882
>how about you check it out yourself?
what makes you think i haven't, it's that tweet that is completely worthless

your image is shit because it doesn't explain anything to somebody that have no clue what he is looking at. spell it out exactly why the image is interesting. you just THINK your cute little circles makes things obvious to an outsider that have no idea who craig is

>>12909866
I don't know, man, going back to a post you made in 2008 to edit it and then using this as evidence... Sounds suspicious to me.

>>12909646
Who cares..

Neither csw or satoshi is BSV.

Anyone can mine it.

>>12909921
Hear hear. It's just bitcoin and in the end there will be only bitcoin.

>>12909961
you can't call minority forks bicoin. it's in the whitepaper hat bitcoin is and what it is not. and cashies dun fucked up when they forked off.

>>12909646
>Craig is satoshi
Szabo is satoshi
>BSV is bitcoin
BSV is a big block flow fee coin with artificial hashrate (mining on a loss) and outdated code
almost no commits on github (in fact none) also
>I know Satoshi is not the hero you have made him to be in your mind
I don't know about your philosophy, but Szabo's blog is pretty fucking amazing

>>12909646
sirs, do the needful. vishnu is not happy

>>12909646
>loses keys to genesis block and mined coins
>loses bitcointalk account pw
>loses email account pw
>loses p2p foundation keys

im totally satoshi guys! pls buy craigtoken!

craigposting needs to be a bannable offense

>>12910003
no, bitcoin's protection against threats IS to fork off. the BTC devs and the brainwashed morons that still believe in BTC were clearly a threat so people that wanted bitcoin and not segwitcoin-with-a-touch-of-sidechains forked the project and preserved bitcoin. unfortunately the Bitcoin Cash devs turned out to be threats as well so then the project forked again to preserve bitcoin and now we have Bitcoin SV.

>>12910516
Based and stiffed

>>12910516
It still blows my mind that most people don't seem to get this. Forking is exactly what we should expect in a decentralized system. It would be weird if bitcoin had NOT forked politically after more than 10 years and I can remember discussing forking as the ultimate governance mechanism of last resort on bitcointalk back in '12.
Then I realize that back in '12 almost everyone thought bitcoin was just dumb internet nerd money and it all makes sense: when it comes to anything of historical consequence 99% of NPC observers are almost always wrong. They don't get it and they never will, even when they are shining shoes for a few satoshis a pop 10 years from now.

>>12910056
szabo coined smart contract

he founded ethereum you faggot

>>12910597
screencapped this

2029

>>12910516
again yes forks are a way to deal with threats but only when they are majority forks. minority forks are a threat to the coin a form of attack that devalues both fork for short term financial gains.

>>12910744
it wasn't even that kind of fork since segshit was added whether you wanted it or not (a softfork). i bet you would pull that excuse even if the devs added an opcode that literally stole bitcoins and gave it to the miners, then "bitcoin is still BTC because most miners went with it". no, you fork off bitcoin if some toxic devs take over the project and ruins the whole progress.

you keep going on and on about craig being faketoshi and posting the same subpar images over and over when this isn't even about him, it's just about preserving bitcoin and the original idea of bitcoin not hitting a scale ceiling on-chain. fine if you're on the BCH side i guess but if you honestly believe BTC with it's crippled 1 MB blocks and non-BTC exclusive stillborn lightning network will ever go anywhere then you're crazy. store of value and "bitcoin isn't for poor people", the BTC side is mad. i hope BTC makes the max blocks 300k like they are talking about now because it would make it die off even quicker.

>>12910717
Szabo invented bitcoin and the concept behind smart contracts you nigger
http://web.archive.org/web/19970614010831/http://www.best.com/~szabo/smart_contracts_2.html

>>12911068
Szabo was not part of Satoshi.

>>12910744
>>BSV is a scam
>>51% attack,reorg the sv chain

protip: YOU CANT

>>12910937
Szabo, by the way, is against big blocks, they serve no propose and limit the total number of full nodes on the network
all your 'big blocks' ever fucking done was successfully store immutable child porn
your shitcoin is flat lining and there is nothing that fucking con artist schizophrenic can do except exit scam to pay for his lawsuits

I seriously hope you stay in /biz/ on the following years, unlikely after you get blown the fuck out

>>12911078
Szabo coded everything
satoshi is not a group
bitcoin was in the works since the mid 90s

>>12909684
They were probably too high up to make down and they decided it would be easier to become a splatter on the concrete than to burn to death

>>12910937
not just most miners most users also don't forget that tiny detail.

>>12910937
>segshit was added whether you wanted it or not (a softfork)
actually segwit doesn't exist to you if you don't want it, that's a big difference. it's an opt-in feature, you don't want it don't use it simple as fuck.

>>12911094
of course you can. with a fraction of btc hashrate if any miner decided they could mop the floor with it.

>>12909684
they couldn't make it to the stairways, they were physically blocked
they were hoping to be rescued, the only way they could go was towards the windows
it was getting hotter and hotter
and eventually they realized nobody was coming
do you know how painful it is to burn to your death?
they probably witnessed it too
they decided to suicide

>"It is believed that PGP causes the emergence of a decentralized fault-tolerant web of confidence for all public keys, but a chain of introduced introducers grows weak very quickly, due to lack of transitivity."
and thus the god protocol began to be formed

so i used metalense to comment on this thread on a second layer, immutable on the bitcoin chain.
For free.

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/metalens-extension/odoinflckdonpofihlicjjknlgnhhaem/related


here s the comment section for this thread
https://metalens.allaboard.cash/url/http%3A%2F%2Fboards.4channel.org%2Fbiz%2Fthread%2F12909646

>>12911966
and?

>>12912099
comment on any site even if it has no comment section

>>12911966
One bug I've found is that the https and http version of the page would have their own comments.

>>12912223
that sounds a bit like rape

>>12912858
You sound a bit like potato

>>12912253
it's a feature retard

>>12913249
Well it's getting fixed so go fuck yourself. The discussion is happening based on the content of the web page. It's not based on your connection to it, faggot.

>>12913169
damn this is so cool

>>12913441
It will turn into subsidized shitposting.

>>12913441
really? i remain unimpressed. that fag about my legacy way not even mildly amusing.

>>12913589
proves you really are hoarding BSV.

>>12913633
what?

>>12910003
>you can't call minority forks bicoin
you can't call protocols that were fundamentally changed from the whitepaper bitcoin.

>We define an electronic coin as a chain of digital signatures.

>>12913648
>implying btc was changed in a fundamental way

>>12913589
Your reply can be found at https://metalens.allaboard.cash/url/https%3A%2F%2Fboards.4channel.org%2Fbiz%2Fthread%2F12909646

>>12913655

P1: Bitcoin is a miner economy.
P2: Lightning network contradicts a mining economy.

Conclusion 1: BTC was changed in a fundamental way.

>>12913648

>>12913737
>second layer built on top of bitcoin changes the nature of bitcoin
of course... it's not like bitcoin will always be there pretty much unchanged. you can start screaming when they disable non-segwit wallets and transactions. that would be a bad omen.

>>12913768
this is more accurate tho

>>12913737
What stops anyone from making LN type networks for their coin? Won't devs have to specifically put code in there to stop it?

>>12913846

It's this.

>>12914009
Nothing would stop it besides law and capitalism. If the miners provide a better service because they aren't hamstrung, then nobody would be incentivized to use LN.

Wait, people actually take BSV seriously? Wish I was larping but I’m not

>>12914062
Follow it back to the Genesis block.

BTC checkpointed with segshit.

See map :
>>12914033

>>12914033
so in your head a 2013 wallet would sync up with sv? is that what you are saying here?

>>12914085
yes your 2013 wallet.dat works perfectly fine, you will find your bitcoins waiting for you on BSV

>>12914113
not what i asked, will a 2013 client sync up with sv chain? because only then you are allowed to draw a straight line to it from the genesis block.

>>12914085
Sure why not. bitcoin is an immutable ledger. You faggot

>>12914134
wrong, the answer is it would sync up with core. because that is btc and the client knows this.

>>12914126
> Only then you are allowed
Says who? The faggot that is you?

>>12914154
common sense
when you fork off you break the protocol and old clients no longer sync with you. it's not hard to grasp. and if you are the minority fork then you just created a shitcoin. when you fork a shitcoin to two other shitcoins you are just playing curry nigger with diarrhea.

>>12911110
btw i did some digging it seems based on node numbers that 10:1 user support went to btc. interestingly this is roughly how the hash was split between the chains.

so 500 sv clients and 20 transactions per block on average. you guys are more delusional than i ever thought. nobody uses your shitcoin except a few pedos.

>>12914500
Your post has been added to the blockchain!

when will this piece of shit stop dumping?

>>12914664
and? that means now it was 21 transaction?

>>12914685
Your post has been added to the blockchain!

>>12914685
>26 posts by this ID
literally kys

>>12914719
i just hate craigtards that much

Fuck it

How many to make it?

>>12914725
you definitely have craig derangement syndrome, you should seek out a psychiatrist lad

>>12914719
>>12914725
Imagine not understanding board culture to such an extent that you namefag AND make sure that more than half the thread is nothing but your posts countershilling a supposed "shitcoin." Then, imagine thinking this behavior will in any way produce the desired effect.
Only a BTC maximalist could be so goddamn thick.

>>12914824
you might be wright about that
>>12914837
it's not that we don't have ids nignog