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Somehow yes

>>12814615
my job is literally automating systems and honestly long term we will create more jobs than we disrupt

>>12814615
Surprisingly yes, and logisitics is only expected to grow.

>>12814690
PLC and embedded programming will be performed by AI within the next 2 years.

>>12814784
letting an ai write firmware is a really really bad idea

>>12814615

>>12814784
all programming will be AI within 5 years. This is why I don't take softwaredevelopmentfags who are developing AI seriously. You are developing AI to solve INTELLECTUAL tasks. Guess who is doing that now? Software Devs. The first thing you teach an AI to do is develop itself. Guess what fag, you just automated your own job. Now Mr. CEO or executive can fire your ass and take your IP. Welcome to business...fag.

>>12814615
I’m a neet who owns 300k link

Am I safe from automation?

>>12814958
Hello sirs, I am in the robotics/deep learning industry, what you are saying is not true. AGI is nowhere in sight

No job is. I predict that most jobs will be automated in a few decades.

The only people whose jobs will always be safe are the creative types: singers, songwriters, actors, entertainers (yes, this includes basketball players, baseball players), designers, scriptwriters.

>>12815008
>has never had a job

Show me a robot that can perform literally any skilled trade.

>>12814958
>5 years
breakthroughs in deep learning and ai have stagnated recently though

>im the guy who repairs, maintains and come up with machines
yes

>>12815026
I'm a CPA. Big 4 tax.

>>12815027
I'm about through with this board. 90% of you fags know nothing about where tech really is.

>>12815017
Actually companies have been hording entertainment to create what they refer to as a "lifetime entertainment bundle" of media that can be dished out and remastered as a person ages. This way there isn't a need for "new" content, just 15 years of content that is learned by the young, referenced and remastered for nostalgia by the middle age, and then syndicated for the old. There's no need to make anything new if you die before being able to see what's been produced up to this point.

>>12814784
Highly doubt PLC programming will be automated anytime soon. You could streamline a process but you'll still need someone to integrate everything.

Assuming you aren't just memeing, enlighten me on a case where a PLC program could be written by AI

I work in a factory and am floored by how much of the work myself and coworkers do is done by hand when we could all be replaced by a cnc machine and a robot with a glue gun for an arm.
>best paying job in my town
>50% of my income goes to rent

>>12815008
high paying jobs will be.
low paying jobs wont be

Well I just got offered an engineering job at a company with the word "Automation" in the title, so I'm probably pretty good.

>>12815017
http://www.thiswaifudoesnotexist.net/

>>12814615
I don't have one

>>12815026
How do you know all jobs won't eventually he automated away? You don't. Soon people will not be able to provide value better than robots. At that point jobs for people will no longer exist. At that point the richest will own us the homeless as slaves.

>>12814615
No, but it needs at least 50 years.

>>12815359
thats bs. there are a lot of industries that run almost entirely on cheap labour

>>12814615
Yes, unfortunately. Would fucking love to be unemployed and blame it on robots.

>>12815027
It didn't. You create selflearning being, then you give it time to learn.
AI is ready it just need time to learn just like human children do.

I honestly don't know, I'm an ATC and it makes sense for it to be automated but there's always the human factor. I guess as long as the planes aren't fully automated, I should be safe

More quantitative a field is, easier it is to automate. So pick qualitative careers that need some sort of license / regulation to operate - clinical nutritionist.

>>12814615
Of course, i'm the one automating the job of these retards.
Well, in a few decades my job won't be safe but heh, who gives a fuck about the future right ?

>>12815124
Well good luck with that, shit is already fucking boring because we keep treading old ground with nothing new. I'm sure masses don't get tired of it, but I have media fatigue because there's very few things that come out these days that are novel or hit me in a way that seeing something completely new. I've had to resort to making my own content for things I like (fanart) so I have something to do.

>>12814966
Now that BSV exist, you should at least be concern. Everything that Chainlink proposes will be done onchain in bsv blockchain. It will also be under the law and you can actually enforce the law in it. So the first one that proves that their system is legal, safe and with the capacity to be actually can be protected by the judicial system will win. Anarchy is good only for black markets

>>12814704
>Anonymous
We good for 5 yr

>>12814615
I have four "jobs" and at least three of them are safe, yes. Two of those are creative types.
It makes me tingle to think my cunty ex coworker office slaves will get thrown on their obese asses and go down screaming. Automate the lot of it, Alex.

>>12816249
What AI companies you holding?

Logistics and SCM should be good for a while

>>12814615
I'm a bartender, so yes, I think I'll be safe. No one wants to be served drinking by a soulless robot (unless your living in Japan). I'm studying accounting and I guess if I went into a small area of accounting like accounts payable/receivable, then I'd be fucked. I think I'll be fine with what I'm going for.

>>12814615
automation is not even 100% pefected. Give it a good 10 thousand years at best.

Also. Do you think most businesses have A.I money? Nope.

>>12814966
You are fine. We are still far from NEET robots.

>>12818274
some random crypto mover gave me some info literally about a crypto project that wants to develop an autonomous bartender, that shit is absolutely dead in the water right, might get a bit of media buzz but that’s probably it, still the guy seemed to have inside info so i got a few rocks.

>>12818274
>Bartender
You're fucked son. I think most people would take a drink from a bionic bartender than a real one. No shame of a bartender knowing how much of an alcoholic you are.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBF7EE2xnN4

>>12814615
As soon as they make a robot that can lead a team while clearing brush and cutting hand line in front of a forest fire, I will still be fully qualified to build, maintain, and program those robots.
t. Manufacturing Engineer turned Wildland Firefighter

I want to become a strategy consultant so yeah

>>12814615
My job is installing and maintaining the automation

>>12818274
Automated bartenders will come sooner than people expect. My guess is they will quickly spread once bars figure out the logistics of connecting all the hoses together and the problem of keeping the bar table from being buried under dirty glassware

>>12814958
When software can wrote itself, the AI Singularity occurs literally within hours of launch and Mr Shecklestein is out of a job (and probably life) as well. It literally makes ALL human jobs obsolete. Software Dev is unironically the last job for humans.

Songwriter, I can see pop/edm becoming automated one day, apparently will.i.am was making a computer to write his songs. I think humanity and culture will always need human music though.

No job is safe.

>>12817694
Oh my god kill yourself. You better be using your rupees to buy link you cancerous niggerfaggot shill

>>12815359
I think eventually socialism will just be the most practical economic system.

>>12814615

They've been automating the shit out of my field for years, still short people

>>12820702
I agree with this. What benefits is capitalism getting us right now exactly? The tech market has completely stagnated over the last 15 years- and amazing tech and discoveries were always the promise of capitalism. Moore's law ended. There's nothing to "invent" which corporate America is getting us. It's time to stop making people work to death for no fucking reason. It's just poor planning now.

>>12820702
>>12820735
hahahah
so wait, you're going to trust govt bureaucrats to come up with innovations?

>>12820771
It simply wouldn't be practical to have capitalism if wage labor were entirely automated. Income inequality would be even higher than it is now.

>>12814615
You can't automate me!

>Public Relations

Yes and no. We are going to consume advertising (and journalism with the way things are going) so the industry is growing and there will be more jobs but there will be automation options. More likely than not automation, in the form of computer written press releases and comments, will be a tool used by the biggest firms.

Customer Service / Tech Support?

>>12814784
the last think to be automated is the complete software development cycle. many things will be automated first

>>12819191
cafex is san francisco is doing this

These things showed up in a taco Bell near my house last week... The end is nigh minimum wagies let us all raise up and...fap to anime

>>12823371
this

what people don't realize that software automation is an extinction level event.

all our unsolved math and physics problems will be solved within 24 hours. no human will have to work again either.

>>12823411
I really really like this image. Can I save it?

>>12818274
keep bartending your whole damn life.

>>12814615
I work in tech support

No amount of machine will solve human stupidity

>>12823411
>all our unsolved math and physics problems will be solved within 24 hours
But will it solve my >tfwnogf?

>>12823746
>have you tried turning it off, then turning it back on again?

>>12814615
The machines I run will eventually be automated. I'll be babysitting the new machines that replaced my job and doing quality inspecting until they are entirely self-sufficient. I'm probably good for my lifetime. That or hop on the Wang train

>>12814615
I got rich from crypto a year ago or so and have been living like a bum ever since so I'd say so.

I make 100k a year doing that. And i am obviously a chad.

>>12823788
I also got rich a year ago but now im even poorer

>>12818445
They will die. Soon.

>>12820656
Kek shekle and sons wore the book on ai

>>12820718
That’s the power of 100 average iq

I'm a apprentice machinist so my career path is being automated away as we speak lmao

>>12823776
Nope not that one

>>12818274
Would unironically love to be served by a soulless robot

>>12820701
repent sinner

>>12820388
>>12814690
any advice on getting into the industry?

>>12814615
CNC mechanic reporting in.
My job is literally fixing robots, I'll be fine.

>>12814690
>we will create more jobs than we disrupt
I *actually* actually do this for a living and you're full of shit. My build scripts let me do in a day what used to take a controls engineer months before me.

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>>12825479
same question

>>12823411
I too love sci-fi books and movies.

>>12818464
Who are we kidding, a box with a blinking light is enough to replace us NEETs.

>>12814690
I'm an automation engineer in prototyping new machines and you have no idea what you're talking about

if we can implement all the tech we currently have we could reduce half of all jobs down to a tenth of what it was before. and that tenth person only has to overlook the robots.

>>12820656
>Software Dev is unironically the last job for humans
I wouldn't say that.
I'm pretty sure the size and flexibility to strength ratio of my human hands is better than what is in any robot arm I've seen so far.
I'm not saying it's impossible and I'll be impressed when I see it, but it'll take a couple of years for a bot to properly lay cables and screw something tight in places where I constantly scratch up my arms to reach.

And if you say that another bot should design it that it's reachable then the machine will be bigger
and if you think it can be split up in smaller parts, it will no longer catch the vibrations well enough.
Then probably that there will be a design by a bot that compromises on the vibration to accessibility ratio, which I have to give to you
But that's still all behind a large AI achievement wall
I think my job is save enough for a little while