/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>12808427
If making means "programming" and it means "software", then yes.

>>12808441
clever

>>12808427
Please to join the club on the path to successes sir

>>12808427
It's one of the easier forms of wageslaving but it's still wageslaving.

>>12808427
only if you sell your own shit

>>12808427
>Is computer science the path to making it?

Only if you're black. My company will literally hire any blacks that can even spell J A V A or S Q L for "diversity" quota reasons. 2/3 of our new hires this year so far are blacks.

However, if you're asian or white, you're fucked. Get ready to compete with a billion smart Indians & Chinese H1B candidates, and be prepared to compete against their pay lower expectations.

If 'making it' means only be able to find employment in a few cities, topping out at $120k, and never rising above middle-management.

>>12808572
All 4 people with "manager" titles in my department are black women, and only 13% of workers here are white males. Our company gave our department a "B-" in diversity during a departmental review, and recommended we focus on more diversity...

>>12808590
I thought anyone who could spell “python” was making 200k+ After a couple years

>>12808572
Basically this. CS is pajeet tier.

You're better off opening a Real Estate Limited Partnership or Hedge Fund if you wanna get gauranteed riches. Just obtain the correct licensing. Private Equity is really hard to get started, so I would avoid it.

>>12808572
>>12808610
I have a Mediterranean phenotype. What if I identify as a Hispanic?

>>12808590
>topping out at $120k, and never rising above middle-management.

Which is why nobody stays a programmer past 40. You move onto being an architect if you have full stack skills or product manager if you have business skills. Can easily pull in 200k+

>>12808623

Honest answer... just put yourself as Black, even if you're white. It gives you a HUGE advantage like you wouldn't believe in hiring... especially at tech companies.

btw: we've never ever "validated" if someone was black... (think Elizabeth Warren). Too much risk for lawsuits so we just take the candidate at their word.

>>12808636
I've worked as a hiring manager. Our filtering software automatically forwards any applications from blacks, and we also dont send that info to the department managers. So it would be really easy to lie and say you are black to beat the software. The managers that interview you here at least would never know you lied.

>>12808610
>>12808572

DIVERSITY IS WHITE GENOCIDE
>DIVERSITY IS WHITE GENOCIDE
DIVERSITY IS WHITE GENOCIDE
>DIVERSITY IS WHITE GENOCIDE
DIVERSITY IS WHITE GENOCIDE
>DIVERSITY IS WHITE GENOCIDE
DIVERSITY IS WHITE GENOCIDE
>DIVERSITY IS WHITE GENOCIDE

>>12808636
Would this work for college too?

>>12808668
I'm curious, how does this work technically, do you filter the applicant's pictures or names or what else? I mean there can't be a field "race" in which the applicant enters "black", "hispanic" or whatever, right?

>>12808668
>Our filtering software automatically forwards any applications from blacks, and we also dont send that info to the department managers. So it would be really easy to lie and say you are black to beat the software.

Like I said, there is zero need to lie. Even if you are the whitest cracker that ever lived and claim to be black, no company would force you to take a DNA test. That would be highly illegal and get the company sued.

Even if you are a little tan, put "black" as your race in job applications.

>>12808707
You can tell by their fucking shit-tier names

Its not hard to spot a nonwhite instantly

>>12808707
Most applications ask for your race

>>12808707
There is a field for race. Its voluntary to be legal of course. But we used a software package called like APX or something that assigned scores to resumes based off experience and keywords, and any resume under a cutoff never got manually reviewed. The software was configured to automatically forward all black and hispanic applications for manual review though. We'd still manually reject a lot, but some with low scores would get hired.

>>12808682
>Would this work for college too?

Yup. There's a pretty famous senator (elizabeth warren) who went to Harvard by claiming she's "native american" and literally nobody ever checked.

Listing yourself as one of the "favored" minorities is one of the only ways you'll get a fair shot at jobs in the Silicon Valley nowadays.

>>12808707
>I mean there can't be a field "race" in which the applicant enters "black", "hispanic" or whatever, right?

Yes. It's on every single HR form in the US. Companies in this country are openly racist while pretending it's "equality."

>>12808725
Isn't this highly illegal? I'm not from burgistan obviously but if some employer in europe explicitly asked for the race of an applicant he would be sued to oblivion.

>>12808746
>>12808735
Okay thank you very much for answering guys, I honestly didn't think employers would be allowed to ask for race explicitly

>>12808750
>>12808758
Its legal if it is voluntary. And it says on the application that it is voluntary.

>>12808758
DUMB FUCK IT DOESNT MATTER IF THERE IS A FIELD

YOU CAN TELL FROM THE FUCKING NAME DUMB KIKE

>>12808750
>Isn't this highly illegal? I'm not from burgistan obviously but if some employer in europe explicitly asked for the race of an applicant he would be sued to oblivion.

Every single job application here in the US has one of these to fill in. Notice how some questions now state "what race do you identify as?" Again, if you're asian, indian, or white, just put yourself as "black." It's the only way you'll have a fair shot.

>>12808750
Not at all. Our census asks for your race. The government awards contracts preferentially to “minority owned businesses.” Blacks, Hispanics, and indigenous Indians are given huge favor for college admissions, employment, promotion, etc. We have something called “affirmative action” that was designed to integrate blacks into society after segregation, and it never went away.

>>12808774

BTW: never, ever identify yourself as "Asian" if you're a job applicant. You'll put yourself at a huge disadvantage. Just leave it blank or identify as "black."

>>12808668
>mentioning race in job applications
>the absolute state of amerikkka

>>12808572
t. Someone who has never had a real job ever

>>12808864
Nice projection. Go ask anybody who hires for a government agency or big corporation if they have a brown quota

>>12808896
All the big tech companies are like 90% white or asian. You'd know that if you'd worked or even interviewed at one.

>>12808615
>Real Estate Limited Partnership or Hedge Fund
>gauranteed riches

lol you fucking stupid dickhead

>>12808615
>>12808572
>>12808427

Unironically, accounting and finance is a good career. They can only automate is so much, and no one wants to learn this shit anymore for some reason. A lot of jobs in both, especially in smaller banks, which no one ever looks at.

>>12808924
Because only nerdy whites and Pajeets go into CS. The blacks and Hispanics that do are on easy mode. Do you seriously think blacks and Hispanics account for 20% of the applicants to Google?

>>12808682
yes. I listed native american without a tribal number(I actually am) and nobody checked. better to larp as black because you dont need an african tribe number

>>12808772
many black people have white last names like jackson or whitherspoon because they decended from white ownership. dumb nazi

>>12808774
Fuck, why are we grouped with whites. (sand nigger)

>>12808427
Yes, but in the Data Science direction.

>>12808625
How does one transition from programer to project manager. I have a 10 years Dev exp, CS undergrad, MBA, and CAPM... Just apply for jobs that require 5 years management experience for entry level management job...

>>12808427

SAUCE

>>12808572
Should I switch from a pure math major to a CS major? I’m fine with being degraded and coddled for a cushy high paying job.

>>12810454
No because data science is the new CS and they love math majors.

>>12810433
just get a promotion bro

>>12810591
No such thing as promotion in public sector... Will just go back to the linkedin / spamming job boards

>>12810522
Is it as cushy? My brother interns at some healthcare company and he said half of the employees do jackshit all day.

>>12808427
It’s a path to wagecucking at a reasonable salary that will plateau when you’re in your late twenties and you’ll be stuck doing it for the rest of your life, the days all blurring together, the voices in your head getting louder and louder until one day you can’t take it anymore

>>12810681
Is that when you go full workplace shooter?