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fucking hell why does eating healthy have to be so expensive?
meat is not healthy you animal killing piece of shit
>>12796313I hope you at least steam or boil it.
>>12796313>implying eating more than a kg of meat per month is a necessity to being healthy
Because your a weak dog
>>12796329>boiling steak>not eating it rawhm
>>12796313You dont have to eat beef though you can get pork ALOT cheaper.
>>12796323>>12796335found the retards.
>>12796323It is, you vegan retard.
>>12796313meat is not healthy you animal killing piece of shit
>>12796313It's not at all expensive. Just eat chicken, fish and veggies and your diet will literally be healthier than 95%+ of Americans. Some red meat is fine, but most Americans eat way too much of it.
>>12796350This. And boil it or better yet steam it. Steamed veggies taste surprisingly good and fresh plus no oil is used.
>>12796350>but most Americans eat way too much of it.there's no such thing as "eating to much meat"most americans have a plant based diet, then they blame their problems on the 20% meat they eat, while its all the sugar, the grains/bread that's fucking them up. get your fucking head out of your ass.
>>12796348Enjoy your clogged arteries
>>12796323>>12796335>>12796350>>12796359veggies carry no nutrition. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_CXwa-_5Ukhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFF30jfTubUveggies aren't needed at all.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtgyJ--X61g
Veganism is cheap, healthy, and ethical. Would recommend. t. broke but healthy vegan
>>12796350This
>>12796380>veggies carry no nutrition.Supplement them with poultry, fish and some red meat once in a while.
>>12796381>t. broke but healthy veganimagine being so deluded you think you are healthy, hows that depression? vegtard?
>>12796313I remember when steak was 1/5th of the price it is todayoh wait, that was not even 10 years ago.anyone know what the fuck happened?
>>12796392Inflation Export
>>12796380>youtubeInto the trash it goes. Give me peer-reviewed papers instead, you pleb.
Not for me. I'm covering my protein needs with this. All other things are cheap anyway.
>>12796404> spoonfeed mefuck off.
>>12796390I am healthy and happy my brother. Where is this animosity coming from?
>>12796313>eating meat>healthyFuck i do agree though, I am mainly eating salad, fruit, nuts, seeds throw an egg in every so often...I have spent nearly £150/week at times! I don't shop @ whole paycheck either.Go ahead & bash, show your ignorance, i don't like to eat food that makes me lethargic, food should give you energy!
>>12796397lol and here i thought it was going to get cheaperfuck me
>>12796422and you have only been vegan for a year, two or less. cause no one can maintain the vegan life style. it destroys you.
>>12796434You keep attacking me for things you've made up lol. Why are you doing that?
>>12796443cause you spread your death cult diet to poor souls and if they decide to "try veganism" they will lose 3 to 5 years of their life to depression and ill feelings.
>>12796380> random non-scientific youtube videosYikes. I didn't tell you to go vegan. As I said, some red meat is fine. My main point was that eating chicken/turkey is at least as healthy as eating expensive red meats like those in OP's pic. The biggest problem in most westerners' diets is eating WAY too many shitty carbs, i.e. soda, bread, dairy, pasta, candy etc.
>>12796451>Vegan bad, pollute earth good.
>>12796380>being this retardedThese guys are just like vegans.
>>12796420>makes claim>gets angry when asked for evidenceHahah typical brainlet
>>12796492genetics you mentally ill waste of air pencil neck, a couple of vegans being strong and healthy compared to the rest of yous skinny pasty pale transparent nigger lovers doesn't make the vegan diet the go to.
>>12796380Sv3rige/Cringe retard spotted
>>12796313The secret to eating raw carnivore is that you should eat 80% fat. Animal fat is cheap as fuck, oftwn thrown to trash at the butchers I frequent. Organ meats are the healthiest and usually cheapest.
>>12796538are you claiming that you actually eat raw trimmings?
>>12796451If you believe the diet is bad and truly think it should not be spread, dont you think it would be more effective to present an argument backed my reasoning and evidence? I dont think your approach to persuasion is as good as it could be brother.
>>12796313Get about 8 chicken thighs, it costs about 3 euro. Then line a pyrex glass with foil. Put in onions sauce, pepper, garlic, w/e you want, and throw it in the oven for about an hr on med high. It will braise it in the liquid, get crispy on top, and you have food for a few days. Then add some rice and veggies and you're grand. Priced out each meal is like 1.50 euro. I buy lamb on days when it is the last day, as it can be half price. You gotta cook it that night or freeze it, but it is a deal.
>>12796552I don't care about the plebs that want to argue. either accept the info that is presented and do the research yourself, or stay a fucking pleb at the bottom eating grass with the sheep. you don't even need no science to understand european people grew up on meat and animals. now I'm going, fuck off plebs, go eat grass, i'll sell that expensive crap to yall losers while you eat your way to depression, i'll be feasting on the best meat cuts. fucking plebs. I regret trying to help yall.
>>12796451>cause you spread your death cult diet to poor souls and if they decide to "try veganism" they will lose 3 to 5 years of their life to depression and ill feelings.Look at he angry replace-religion-with-way-of-eating carnivore. Pathetic.
>>12796552yes I am agressive can't handle my T levels? fucking bitch ass go eat some grass
The deciding argument for being carnivore is that ALL current plants that people eat aren't natural. There are no edible carrots in nature. There are no sugar globes known as 'apples' anywhere in the non-human infested agriculture. Bananas are just a Frankenstein of a plant.
>>12796584Can't handle your stupidity more than T-levels. Fucking cretin.
>>12796592I still eat about 20% fruits and plants / nuts, but usually only in season. I also don't like entirely raw I sear my steak anyday.
>>12796313Just buy pork instead if you're poor. Pigs are fed less hormones/antibiotics, and it's also tastier.I can afford to only eat prime beef but I still eat pork because it's that much tastier. The occasional rib eye is only for variety.
>>12796584I sense rheumatoid arthritis in your future!
>>12796608I sense science paper vegan brainwashing in your knowledge base!
>>12796610I am not vegan...
So many vegan cucks in this thread.Must explain bitcoin core maximalism by 2017 newfags with 0.2 btc.
>>12796616you should go vegan man its so healthy. the best pleb food for the bottom dwellers! grains and plants! that's all you need to be a happy pleb!
>>12796628See >>12796427
>>12796606Pigs don't sweat, therefore they keep their toxins in their fat more readily. Would be cautious.>>12796605The 'seared' steak, and anything prepared thermically like that is the most unhealthy foodstuff out there - directly contributing to cancer. Look at Advanced Glycation Endproducts (AGE) and oxidation of unsaturated fat.Oddly enough raw animal fat seems to be the healthiest foodstuff of all.
stop eating meats you are fucking killing my children's future
>>12796637>The 'seared' steak, and anything prepared thermically like that is the most unhealthy foodstuff out therei don't sear it black man, I put it a pan to kill contamination from food handling, thats all. > Pigs don't sweat, therefore they keep their toxins in their fat more readily. Would be cautious.stay away from omnivorous animals, if you want to avoid nasty trichinosis, ( worm that lays eggs in your muscles ) no boar, bear or anything that is a scavenger, plant and gras eating animals are completely safe. I've been on a low meat diet for a year and it was the most depressive time of my life. I had meat 2 days a week. I now eat mostly animal products ( gras fed ) my T levels went up 40% by just switching to meat and supplementing vitamin D during winter.
>>12796313A 200g t-bone steak is 4USD, with 6/8 USD and 20 minutes you got yourself a meal.
>>12796657Good for you man
>>12796653wat?
>>12796313I think it's because there is high demand from poor people for factory farmed cheap meat. Which then causes organic supplies to be less in demand so the prices have to be raised because they're selling less.Its fucked.
>>12796676well yeah when someone goes around and starts saying "veganism is the best" it just sickens me cause it isn't, I used to be deluded too, I thought meat was bad. I felt like absolute shit but I never thought it was because I wasn't eating meats. so I get extremely aggressive when I see a vegan shill. being plant based took a year of my life where I accomplished nothing and was depressed all the time. I eat a raw steak and get high now lmao,..... anyway I need to go... laterino, don't join the vegan death cult if you want to be happy. animals are food, plants are medicine.
>>12796404here you gohttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5842847/
>>12796521I was skinny as a meat eater, tooAppalachian north east Alabama born and raisedi love my plants now, son
anti meat shilling is funded by glows
>>12796313>>12796606>eat pork or something else instead of beefThat's what I do too. Some beef liver three or four times per month to make sure I get all the important vitamins and minerals and the rest of the month going on pork, chicken, eggs and dairy and the occasional frozen hake. I spend less than 150$ per month on food and I'm making some good gains in the gym.>>12796694Based and meatpilled.
>>12796404>hurr durr muh peer-reviewScience has become a joke. A self-congratulatory sub-culture filled with intellectual retards due to the technocratic and burocratic nature of post-modern society. They've become just as close-minded as the average religious zealot. The "file drawer problem", or "publication bias" is becomming a real problem. If not properly dealth with, 90% of all scientific avenues will relegate themselves into the trashbin of history soon.
>>12796715t. butt hurt he will never be a scientist
>>12796404Peer review is a circlejerk. Literally anything passes as peer reviewed these days.
>>12796709https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-46865204https://edition.cnn.com/2019/01/16/health/new-diet-to-save-lives-and-planet-health-study-intl/index.htmlhttps://eatforum.org/about/who-we-are/what-is-eat/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wellcome_Trusthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliza_Manningham-Buller
Basically veganism is being pushed because it can be sold for higher profits since meat has become so cheap to produce.Don't fall for the green meme lands, stay red meat pilled
>>12796720I'm studying chemistry at one of the largest universities in Holland. You are a prime example of what i ment; either black or white, not being able to entertain other possibilities and ignoring everything that doesn't fit your own cherished beliefs. Scientists are people to, and as such, are subjected to the same psychological processes and factors as everyone else. The fact that you would deny this and place yourself on a pedestal of incorruptibility and moral righteousness speaks volumes. Science is, very rapidly, becomming a religion. And it's because of people like you.
>>12796755>Science is, very rapidly, becomming a religion. And it's because of people like you.When it's shutting the door to people like Watson who prove blacks have a lower average iq than whites, its certainly not.
>>12796720all humans use some variation of the scientific method. Everyones a 'scientist' ya cuck, just with varying levels of aptitude and areas of expertise
>>12796313we grow too much grain, if those farmers were grazing animals instead, it would be so much cheaper.>>12796739>https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-46865204>taxes on red meat are one of the many optionswhat a wanker, the guy who came up with that said he grew up eating red meat 3 times a day, so it obviously wasn't detrimental to him seen as he works at Harvard.>>12796404another study>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2716748/more people on keto would be a benefit on the NHS as well, currently overburdened with obese fatties with diabetes and all these other chronic illnesses.the magic pill on jewtube or netflix is a good documentarycompares the abbos before they started eating western diets.
>>12796764Watson's assessment is an interesting one that deservers further investigation. Him being ostracized by the academic community just goes to show the veracity of what i wrote here. Again, the academic world is becomming a joke.
>>12796574>yallyou're one needing help, assisted suicide that is. Yet you have audacity to attept to "help" others
>>12796313this is healthy
>>12796822Bread. Sugar. Salt. Gluten. Refined carbs. No nutrients. Imagine poisoning yourself with bread.
>>12796837Brown bread has good carbs faggot
>>12796822Replace the bread with a pork neck steak and we talkin
>>12796380I do think SOME veggies are ok, but the current GMO crops we have are complete shit for nutrition. I usually try to stick with stuff that makes me feel good, not in a bad way though. If I feel good while eating then feel like shit 30 minutes later it's bad. But stuff like chicken soup with bone broth makes me feel better and I don't even need much of it to get energy. Meanwhile if I eat fast food it tends to give me gas and headaches relatively quickly so I've just eliminated it completely. Same thing with fruit, I only eat it about 2 times a week for some vitamins but the current crops we have make them way too high in sugar for humans.
>>12796843>good carbsno such thing, they all turn into glucose and your body has to produce insulin to counter it
>>12796335>meat is not healthy>>12796373>clogged arteries>>12796381>veganism is healthy>>12796843Brown bread has good carbs
>>12796373You fell for propaganda.
>>12796381>healthy veganNo such thing.
>>12796902This, carbs are only "healthy" if you're poor, the health benefit being that they can save you money which can reduce your stress levels.
>>12796822>american "bread">healthy
>>12796902Meat eater here but you dont know shit about carbs educate yourself about glycamic index and such also some carbs(not pure) come with more additional nutrients more than othersGoing vegan us bullshit but so is keto
>>12796929Except even the best carbs in terms of glycemic index put you in a state of diabetes. And make you sleepy.In fact, at least pure sugar results in a high and crash that fades off quickly. Brown makes you lethargic for the rest of the day.And all fiber does is prevent your body from getting minerals and vitamins from meat, it's probably good for a periodic cleansing but it's extremely unhealthy as a day-to-day food.So yeah, all carbs are shit unless you're a bodybuilder who likes the bloated look.
>>12796951Fiber isn't even necessary. It's only memed as such because Americans refuse to install bidets.
My grandparents live in a village. And they mostly eat their own naturally homegrown food. Obviously veggies, but plenty of dairy products and meat like chicken and pork. And plenty of pork fat, too. We call it salo in my country.And they've lived a long life and don't have any serious health problems, capable of doing physical labor well in their 70s and 80s.The problem is not meat, but mass produced shitty food and sitting on your ass all day in polluted cities.
>>12796951I never mentioned fibres i was talking actual nutrients which a lot of natural carb sources have and you are completely missing the point like any keto retard. Its not about eating all carbs its about eating a balanced diet close to your ancestors one and no i dont mean 10k years i mean your actual ethnic ancestors which arent that far away and they definitly ate carbs you can keep your poisonos keto state all you want but its far from healthy or how we evolved the last thousands of years. We evolved with eating carbs fats and proteins all of them in balanced ratios not your anti something bullshit. We didnt evolve eating only carbs or only fat or only protein and if you dont get that you are a retardAlso retards like you probably dont even eat your ancestors probiotics so why are you worrying about carbs if your digestion is fucked anyway cunt? Thwre are more important thinga retarda like you should be working on. Im german/polish so ill eat sauerkraut/kefir for example because it makes sense
>>12796951>>12797066My post maybe sounds harsh but i dont like you keto fags thinking you are any better than vegans or other bullshit fads. Evolution decides what you eat and what is healthy for you deal with it.
just buy pork
>>12796323It is you brittle spaghetti armed vegan
riddle me this: why are there essential fatty acids and essential proteins but no essential carbs? DYOR. also, you need to eat a little bit of everything for general health/vitality. we're omnivores of course vegetables are good for you. you should aim to as many vegetables as you can tolerate and add in meat, fish, sometimes nuts, sometimes fruits. just eat anything thats made in nature that you're not allergic to.
>>12797115Because they were essential for keeping enough energy in industrial human societies when people where much more active. Tell them to get their energy through meat or whatever. There is a reason humans always added carbs to their diets when they were available because they provided a energy boost which is kind of early doping and it gets you an advantage over rivals. We need less of them nowadays yes but we shouldnt i think we instead should be more active and competetive like the greeks were. I think drop the carb load just a little and up your athletic game. Compete with your people and take pride in your athleticism.
>>12796323fpwp you retarded fucking plantnigger
>>12796313zero marblingyoure getting ripped off scotty
Funny that the most vocal about that bullshit carnivore diet is shawn baker, a psychopathic ex MD who lost his licence due to severe incompetence. I dont know if you're aware of it but you really need to be dangerous to your patients to lose your licence. The guy is a typical psychopath.
>>12797180>doctors>anything but legal drug dealers
>>12796359Teehee "this" "this right here" tee hee reddit, what an absolute twat you are.
>>12797188>you>a very low IQ
>>12796323Do the Archons bidding, faggot. Meat eating is a ritual of sacrifice. It's better when it's some cow instead of you.
>>12796380This has got to be the dumbest theory that I've ever seen. Ever since that douche went on JRE brainlet's have been eating only meat. That just sounds fucking dumb. > listening to a Dr. that lost his medical license and refused to get blood tests while he at just meat. Y'all are fucking dumb. > b-but the body can adapt to eating just meatYa and my buddy had stage IV lung cancer and his body was able to run at 70% of its normal oxygen supply so it started using CO2. Doesn't mean it was good for him.
>beef and pork>healthyOur ancestors didn’t hunt cows retard
>>12796313>those priceslmao, at least you have "free healthcare", right eurotrash?
>>12797309(Canadians and Australians count as Eurotrash too btw)
>>12797309Meat in western europe is like 3 or 4 times cheaper than this.
>>12797223>dismiss things because they "sound" dumb>parratos false information>argue with a totally unrelated disease in a made up buddyIs this the power of subpar IQ?
>>12797260Why don't you give us supporting details to your retarded theisis: "If our ancestors didn't hunt it, it can't possibly be healthy".
Go in the wood and tell me how many bananas and loafs of bread you find. Kek
>>12797419what's the point of "going in the wood" you moronic cunt? Hunter-gatherers made bread.https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/jul/16/archaeologists-find-earliest-evidence-of-breadThose shilling the 100% carnivore diet are low IQ retards.
Because you are muricanHere in Brazil eating healthy is freaking cheap, eathing unhealth tho...
>>12797345https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/country_price_rankings?itemId=121Is it too difficult to just give facts instead of your shitty and wrong little opinion?It's really a burden to read low IQs.
The best athlete in the world is vegetarian
>>12797479Look at that cucked up feminine soied body language.
>RIB EYE $27Jesus, here it's R$30 ($8)
>>12797478>exactly 2 to 3 times lower as what is pictured in the OPNice, thanks dude.
>>12797479b-b-but i thougt one of the best athlete in the world was shawn baker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBQ1HvG5tIU
meat is and has always been for the upper class
>>12797486
>>12797486This, even my brazilian gf is less feminine than him
>>12797479>The best athlete in the world is vegetarianhe wont stay the best being vegan, give it 5 years until he collapses.
Nearly everyone shitting on the carnivore diet isn't a "balanced diet" advocate, they're all just vegans who want to show how great it is to be weak.
>>12796492you're an idiot if you don't think that industrial agriculture doesn't destroy and pollute the earth. what is roundup? fucken vegan plebs think they're saving the world. unless you grow 100% of your produce organically on site, then you're guilty too. no moral high ground for you plant nigger.
>>12796313Meat can be healthy for some people but it is unethical and destructive for the environment.If you are this amoral to eat regularly mammals meat, you can also beat your dog when your upset, steal from old women, burn a forest and laugh about it. About vegetarian diet, i'm almost as strong without meat, and i'm less tired during the day.
>>12797675>eating meat because of hunger and need for protein =/= killing animals because of cruelty and tasteHumans are meat and veggie eaters, deal with it.
>>12797479>recreational rock climber>athleteyou're a fucken retard. kys
Its because your parents prefer doing their groceries in a big store than going to the butcher shop, fruit shop, etc. Centralization kills competency. Thank your parents
>>12797675>but it is unethical and destructive for the environment.thats bullshit, whats worse for the environment, me buying a local grass fed cow with some other townies and slaughtering it, every 2 months, or me ordering avocados, bananas, quinoia all that crap from all over the world shipping it to my country? fucking brainlet, you don't know anything about environment.
>>12796890>muh GMOfucking brainlets I swear
>>12796323Kek so many newfags fell for your bait
Not going to read this thread, but if you are trying to do a carnivore style diet don't forget to eat your nutrient rich meats and organs such as livers. Normally at a fraction of the cost of red meats and packed nutrition.
Been eating only beef fish and milk for the last year, my bloodwork is flawless, i have been eating mostly raw this year. Animal foods are nutritionally dense, unlike veggies or grains.Where my carnivore bros at?
>>12796323based
It isn't...I'm 32 and I'm healthier than I have ever been in my entire life AND am spending less than I ever have on food. The bulk of your diet should be: fruits, vegetables, beans. Then you occasionally throw in some whole grains, eggs, or meat. Like small amounts. And don't eat fast food, and rarely eat out.I spend maybe 150 a month on all food and groceries.
>>12796428>he didn't invest in steak back in 2003
>>12798359> beanslmaooooo get a load of this retard. beans are so toxic you can't even eat them without a good soak and long boil.
I really wanna like this guy but we all know if he was actually telling the truth, bitcoin would be worth nothing and BSV would be #1,
>>12797772Humans are also warriors. When was the last time you killed someone?>>12797822(pics related)
>>12796313I usually eat red meat 2 a week and chicken and canned fish the other 5 I don't run more than 20 bucks a week on protein
>>12798619you can't eat eggs or meat without cooking them either. what's your point retard
>>12798734>can't eat raw eggs or meat
>>12798734lmaooooo imagine eating so much toxic beans you think you need to cook meat to consume it LOL. HOLY CRAP LOL VEGTARDS ARE SO STUPID.LOL
>>12798734>you can't eat eggs or meat without cooking them eitherwhat the fuck are you inhaling?
>>12796323base and vegipilled
>>12798797Raw eggs and meat are so tasty :sIn any case if you like raw stuff you could always eat fruits ;-)
>>12798734>you can't eat eggs or meatthis is the average intelligence of biz
>>12796337eating pork is like having an interracial baby, they're filthy and disgusting
>>12796404>he's one of those retards who think that reading the abstract on some worthless """"peer reviewed"""" rag makes him smart
>>12796764this literally proves that science is becoming a religion of producing and believing "peer reviewed" bullshit that fits peoples opinions
>>12796313>fucking hell why does eating healthy have to be so expensive?The last 100 years was an anomalyYour food was cheap because oil was cheap, because slave labor was cheap, because water was cheap, because people like Norman Borlaug almost single-handedly solved the problem of breeding more productive wheat, corn, and rice. You kids are about to get ushered into a new ear where the there is no more easy picking, where 40% of the Earth's surface is already cultivated, where the planet has 9 billion people and 800 million are still hungry, where water is running out, there is synthetic pollution practically everywhere, where ecosystems are crashing, going all the way down to sub-95% and sub-99% levels. They're going to blow sunshine up your ass about how science and technology is going to save you but the reality is that endless war is coming, pestilence, chaos, starvation.... think about the fact they are injecting waste into the ground, sucking the groundwater dry, killing everything tin the oceans...Think about what is happening today, why your food is so expensive. Finance needed a place to convert its bullshit currencies and fake wealth into some thing real- that turned out to be real estate. Generational wealth bought it all and are going to jack its price up and extract rents from every generation that comes after. You will be a slave and your children will be slaves.
>>12798899We need to sterilize africa, china, and india
>>12798882Only a moron doesn't respect science.
>>12798947only a moron lives his live only beliebing what science papers tell him.
>>12796323I'm immediately leaving this thread after seeing what a shitty thread you've made it. Kys.
>>12796313Veggies are cheap as fuck. Buy lots of veggies, fish, and rice. Also get a lot of carbs and fruit. Meat in moderation is fine, but most people eat too much of it.
>>12797849I know we're not exactly monkeys but at zoos they can't feed them our fruits because they are too high in sugar compared to wild ones so they have to come up with other ways to get them their nutrition. Similar applies to humans, just because we can eat them doesn't mean we should. A lot of modern fruits are just lumps of pure sugar with little nutrition in between because they were bred that way (GMO just perfects them, but it's been getting worse even more that). I'm against GMOs not because GMO is inherently bad, but because the lack of diversity of fruits/veggies is detrimental to our longterm health.
>he isn't on the Tom Brady's diet>he thinks he is going to make it
shit meat, scotland is poor
>>12798836That's America in general, people think eating raw meat/eggs is bad for you here, we had to make our own version of sushi because Americans can stand the idea of eating something raw.
Ameritards are all so fat and disgusting murderers of helpless animals. Nature is love frens dont you get that? Love your animal frens and the world will love you back. Go vegan nao or kys rapist nazis
>>12798619If you can't handle beans the problem is you bud
>>12796323>This soγ fed pussy telling us how to eatI'm a carnivore who eats meat every day. Picking up hunting as we speak. Come at me pussy.
>>12799866go eat a bunch of uncooked white kidney beans, jjust soak em don't boil em. eat 250 grams. if you don't have to go to the hospital / have the shits for a few days / have to puke you aern't a human, you are a fucking gras eater sheeple
>>12800001Why would anyone do this>>12799911I hope you die of colon cancer
>>12797215>ArchonsThey cannot force us to kill each other either. They can go somewhere else, accept to die or maybe the one can take them back (don't know about that).
>>12796313Just eat corn starch like everybody else, it got everything your body needs
>>12796313i turned my family vegan. our household bill went from $800 per month on food to $300. we eat healthy as fuck non processed veg, fruit, lentils, rice, etc. even the cleanest fruit and veg is grown in nutrient depleted soil. best to grown your own. be well.
shit meat scotland sucks
>>12797215Gnostics aren't the true word of god and the lost gospels haven't been found yet(in complete form).
>>12800601please eat some eggs and fish at least. your diet will make you malnourished within a year or so
>Be me Iowanon>Lives in one of the states where most of the food in America is made and food is hella cheapTop Shelf Free Range Angus costing bouts 7.99/lb round these parts boys
>>12796313Go to Costco and buy the burgers. Shit is cheap and high quality.
Thought I was on fit. Where's the kino mentally ill "vegan malnourished" youtube poster?
>>12796313Just eat chicken, Brown Rice and green beans. I like seasoning my chicken with kickin chicken by weber and putting onions sauce in my rice.
>>12800919I have a feeling that's literally sv3rige.
>>12800950*onions sauce
>>12800950 S O Y S A U C E
>>12796492So many Steroids, so many lies. So many idiots that believe them.
>>12801011do you think shawn baker is not on steroids? guy has the T level of little girl because he must inject like crazy
>>12801027He is for sure. But really, we have to talk about nattys if we're going to relate anyone to the general population. Steroid users are in another dimension where they can eat anything and make gains.
>>12800864free range iowan fucknobody likes iowa
>>12800799What's he missing from his diet?
All non-vegetarians are barbaric peasant class filth.
>>12796323>man evolves over 1000s of years by eating meat into the supreme apex predator capable of even escaping earth's gravity>"meat is not healthy"????
>>12801578Thanks. Just bought 100,000 meat
>>12800950>>12800955>>12800961>*onions sauce
>>12800107>colon cancerkek, im not gay dude. I don't stick foreign objects up my rectum, stop projecting.
>>12800508>They cannot
>Eating only steak as your protein>HealthyEat chicken you retards
>>12801578https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0PF5R0ywp4We evolved by eating starch, thats why we produce so much amylases.
>>12801272Iron, vitamin B12, zinc for instanceEnjoy low test, 50Yboy
>>12796329>he doesn’t cook his steaks in butter
>>12802564>eat diet heavy in carbs>get diabeetus and obesity>why didn't my liver and pancreas evolve to handle all the starch?
>>12798917You won't need to. Global warming will do the extermination job just fine. 60% of all world food production will halt in a few decades from climate change and the world is already producing food with no surplus.
>>12796323every time I eat red meat I feel incredibly good, with more energy, more concentration, and motivation.
>>12802517Jesus Christ is in heaven.
>>12802760i cant fucking tell whos real anymore.>>12802760i cant fucking tell whos real anymore.thispersonisnotreal is a demoralization psyops to prepare us for the wagecage nwo
Meat elitarisme is even more cancer than vegan elitarisme.
>>12796392I pay $4/lb for Porterhouse and Ribeye, $3/lb for the English Roast I use for my potroasts, and under $2/lb for ground butcher trim as my burger. Sucks to be wherever you shop.
>>12802564does meat have a lot of starch? we hunted basically all our food except for some berries for tens of thousands of years. growing stuff fucking sucked in the early days before humans mutated the plants (selective breeding) and farming was way too nonbeneficiary until we figured out how to make alcohol
>>12796335>healthy - the state of being free from illness or injury.ur still gonna die eating healthy, ur genes matter more and most people ignore it when choosing a diet.
>>12802906The last video of Assange was also CGI. They can make vids of fake people. Kill them and make think they are still alive.
>>12799911>I'm a carnivoreNot even close. Try confused herbivore.
>>12802920Difference is meat eaters don't deny themselves one of life's greatest pleasures. Vegans don't save lives, all that happens is that less animals are born. It's impossible to be vegan anyway because traces of animal products are in basically everything.My biggest gripe though is that vegans always demand special treatment in social circles. It's super annoying having to cater to someone else's "way of life" when there is no actual reason for them to not eat meat besides that they just don't want to. The kind of people that refuse to use the same grill as meat eaters are the worst kind, it's not like it's poison and they aren't allergic either.Er, this might be off topic. Wait, what's the topic again?
>>12796323Humans are carnivores that can be omnivores in times of desperation. If you literally want to live life like prey, you're a fucking soiboy.
It's not. Buy ground beef and chicken thighs instead of rib eyes and filet mignons you fucking retard.
>>12796323I could break your arms like twigs and I'm not even that big. How does that make you feel?
>>12796521I need this on a t-shirt
>>12803104>Confused omnivoreWhy do betas have to be confused about everything?>muh many genders>muh agnostic>muh non politically affiliated
>>12796313I can eat well for about 50 dollars a week, and healthy too. Don’t buy different meals for every meal. Prep for about 3 days at a time. You eat the same shit, but you can season them differently
>>12802690Type-II diabetes was rare before "green revolution", intramyocellular lipids block your insulin receptors. Organ failures like greasy liver are also result of high fat and highly refined foods. Animal protein is main causes of kidney stone disease.>>12803063Tubers are plentiful and can be found in every climate. I am not denying meat but it was minor and unpredicable food source. Even chimps dont get more than 5-10% from their calories from animals. All evidence shows we are better adopted to plant-based diet.
>>12796902This is retatded. You realize protein ilicits an insulin response as well right?
>>12796313It's not true, If you look at the price per 100g, you'll see that chips and chocolate bars are orders of magnitude more expensive than bags of frozen vegetables
>>12803983well, maybe not orders of magnitude, but up to 5x-7x more
>>12796313Funny how meat is literally cheaper in Japan now lol
OH BOY, IT'S THIS THREAD AGAIN.
>>12802590Plenty of those just in my breakfast cereal alone.
>>12805174>B12 is in cerealProve it, post photos of the box
>>12796323OH NO NO NO
>>12797537That's because she had a late transition.
>>12798717i don't buy mass production crap, this graph doesn't include what I buy.
Raw grassfed milk > every other foodstuff
>>12805174Yep. And it stays in the cereal until you shit it out.What is chelation fren.
>>12805174>people still eat breakfast cerealIt's like you want to induce diabetes intentionally
>veganism is healthy!>meat is bad for you and unethical!>global warming!>Proof of Work is killing the planet!the absolute state of brainwashed basedcucks
>>12801578>the most difficult food to acquire is somehow the staple of the human diet, instead of the easiest to acquirewe evolved by eating fucking gruel dude
>>12798848Found the kike/sandnigger.
>>12802760Just grow it in the then temperate climates of Canada and Russia you retard. More CO2=more plant food in the air, and the loss of arable land near the equator will be made up for further north. 'Climate scientists' are lying pieces of shit who's job is invoke fear.
>>12806800>hurrr, we evolved eating gruel for 2000 years after hunting meet for 2 million years.
>>12797587You realize you need much much more agricultural produce per gram of protein to produce beef than to produce grains and legumes, right?Do you think you live in some sort of fairy land where all farm animals just grow on sunshine and air and a lil nibble on grass once in a while?The muhagriculture argument is actually an argument against meat production, not for it.
>>12806932The cost of people being sick from plant-eating related diseases far outweigh what you talk about. Unless you want to intentionally kill and disfigure poor people that is.Besides, shit like powdered fish fertilizer is used to temporarily unrape the soil for the horrid plants to grow.
>>12796335> animal killing piece of shit I dont kill the animals I only eat them.
>>12806932you realize that grains and beans are toxic and peasant food that devolves you right?
Been living off of rice and beans and beans and rice>the dave ramsey diet
>meat>healthyOP if you believe that your red cancerous meat is healthy and expensive you should watch the fish market and you'll probably kill yourself for good.
>>12805707It's not a rarity. Cheerios, Chex are examples.>>12806553You know most adult breakfast cereals have little added sugar?>>12806553Any source that those nutrients don't get absorbed? I know absorption depends on various factors, but I think I'm getting a significant portion.
>>12808490>You know most adult breakfast cereals have little added sugar?Cereals are all easily digestible carbohydrates, regardless of how much sugar is put there. Even raw corn cereal with no sugar is just diabetes in a box.>typical vegan nutritional knowledge level
>>12796362This.
>>12796323Based. look at all the assmadness it causes to the meatheads just because someone choses a healthy and ethical way of life. People who are unwilling to self improve always get mad at their betters.
>>12808539Cereal, or any regular wheat products, are fucking terrible for you. >what is “phytic acid”>what is “sprouted grain” Plz do some research
>>12808626>no reading comprehensionHave you eaten some flour-based product today in copious amounts? Your mental acuity indicates so.
>>12808638Buddy what the fuck are you talking about? You trying to say that eating processed grains and shitty white flour , is healthy?
>>12808672Holy fuck you're dumb. Just kys
>>12808713You must have some serious Autism. You just talk shit and have no facts or examples to back anything up. At least I give people something to research that is a real thing, phytic acid being a nutrient blocker that eventually, with enough wheat consumption, will cause problems with bones and teeth. It’s people like you that are a cancer to society that need to get grouped together and nuked, the world would be a much better place.
>>12808754Did you escape your tard wrangler? You lack basic reading comprehension in a manner that's just disturbing.
>>12796362>most americans have a plant based diet,Which does not matter, if all the average 'murican eats all day is fast food and movement is limited to the ways between their house and their car and maye a walk within the mall.
>>12808617do you know how many animals die every time a new field is planted to grow your precious crops, you vegan faggot?
>>12796335Seriously go kys you vegan
>>12808792
>>12808994>muh memeimage response>my head is filled to the brim with a hollow, echoing void
>>12808961vegans are killing themselves slowly. the problem takes care of itself don't worry.
>>12796323The more people here get triggered by vegans the more i want to be a vegan. More fud. Please keep fudding guys. Im buying more shares in veganism as you fight.
>>12796313It's not, brown/white rice, fresh meat/protein powder, literally any vegatable, all can be bought relatively inexpensive, even cheaper in bulk, just walk into any costco.
>>12796506you got btfo
>>12808940Even more crops are required to feed farm animals. 70% of USA farmland is used to feed farm animals.
>>12796313Chicken is pretty cheap dude. Buy some of that, cook it up with herbs, spices, etc. You can fry it, you can grill it, you can sautee stuff in the pan with it, use different kinds of bread crumbs (even with cheeses mixed in)Every night for the past decade I've had the same thing for dinner: A salad composed of leafy green/red lettuce, cucumber, scallions, shredded carrots, avacado, sharp cheddar cheese, chipotle ranch dressing (or regular ranch, or avacado ranch), and a large piece of fried chicken.Made me lose weight, makes me feel full even though I'm kind of a big dude still - the bigger benefit is that I just feel healthy after I eat.Stay away from added sugars. Never consume fructose or trans fats. Keep the sat fats low and always try to get alot of protein in your meals. That's basically how to get healthy
>>12810151That is the better argument in favor of vegetarism/veganism. If all human stop to eat meat, it'll be a huge relief for mother earth.
>>12810218Oh and hardboiled eggs - make a dozen at a time, peel em, and save them in a bin in your fridge. That way you only have to do it once every six days and you can add 2 hardboiled eggs to your salad every night for extra protein