/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>12664311
unironically stop eating for a week

>>12664317
yes i did this around last november as well, i was all in BCH and the crash after the pump to 0.5 had me almost pulling the trigger

like i pulled out my gun and held it for a while trying to decide if i should. these feelings are returning again...

>>12664311
And they don't stop dumping and they don't stop dumping

AHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>12664317
and walk everyday with the extra time that is created. like holy fuck do you get bored
>>>/fit/49466595

>>12664311

Finance is not for you. Go camping, chill. Make some raspberry jam, IDK.

Lol this is the bottom or we're fucked.
Hedge bsv with the keynesian competitors

Simply go to the nearest designated shitting Street, should help your stomach issues sir

i just dont fucking get it... i have been into bitcoin since 2010. I have put thousands of hours of autistic research, i probably know more about how bitcoin works than most of the core developers not even joking. I could recite the whitepaper from memory at this point. I know what the fuck bitcoin is, and I put my money where my beliefs are. I fucking know I am right about this. why am I getting punished like this

>>12664388
Because SV is a shitcoin with no scaling plan?

>>12664403
just fuck off retard, i dont have the energy to tell you how fucking stupid you are

>>12664415
Bigger blocks isn't a scaling plan if you can't solve block propagation

>>12664311
BSV = Bitcoin can't loose you winny little faggots.
All blockchain technology is patented and will be only allowed on this chain.
Stupid fucks don't get it that law is law even when people don't like it.
I will buy more and more and more and sooner or later It will be #1.
I have no doubt at all.

>>12664388
>into bitcoin since 2010
>still here and not some multi millionaire
>invested in a fork of an imposter
Sounds like you make a lot of bad decisions.

>>12664446
yes it is clear as day to me, just as it is clear that csw and dave kleinmann were satoshi. all the retarded pajeet memes and muh scam fud from retarded 14 year olds on this board have zero effect on me. but why cant "the market" see what you and i see as blatently obvious

>>12664388
Re-read what you just wrote, anon. A perfect specimen of despair.
You are getting punished by the "popularity contest" short-term phase of the market. The trick to investing based on being savvier than the retard masses is to have enough patience to wait things out until the long-term "weighing machine" function of the market finally kicks in. If you have been around since 2010, you know this. BSV vs. BTC right now is just a fractally similar instance of Bitcoin vs. the Dollar.
Patience, fellow anon. We are going to beat the Jews and other parasites.

>>12664388
Man you'd have to be dumb after to see how bcash turned out and then invest into another destined to fail fork. May this be your lesson.

>>12664388
That's why you should know that neither Segshit Lightning notwork, nor BCH, not ETH can make it in the long run.
Bitcoin is BSV. Bei Patient and buy more you sucker.
You know that only Bsv uses the incentive model from the whitepaper, the miner economics..will have the metanet.
The other chains aren't even competition.
Just wait and see the others die while Bitcoin scales as it was intended to

>>12664456
fuck off you poorfag i am literally losing millions of dollars as we speak

>>12664311
>stomach wrenching

>>12664446
>law is law even when people don't like it.
Exactly the reason SV will fail. Immutable Child Porn.

>>12664388
We have to consider the mike hearn argument, that bitcoin is a failed experiment. I have zero doubt the entire world will move to electronic cash within the decade but the evidence doesnt seem to favour monetary reform. You have to hedge for dystopia

I think the biggest fud with bitcoin is that the idea of proof work governance has existed long before its invention but there has never been a society/organisation that used it. Its just virtue signaling if you say proof of work is superior when the evidence says it cant even perpetuate itself. Obviously distributing more power to the people who create the most value sounds good but history is just an endless degradation into more power to parasites who lie and cheat at the expense of those who create

>>12664388
LARP

Bitcoin is about to dump so it's literally falling below 10000

Meanwhile we linkmarines are enjoying out usual pump. Scooped up another 7k at 10.5k sats a few days ago. A pity I had orders at 9k sats which didn't get filled. Well whatever my stack is over 50k now, which by no means is worth a lot of money now, but it will sure be after a few more of these usual pumps :)

Also check em

what are you complaining about this shitcoin is still at least 90% overvalued

>>12664481
I traded all my BCH pre fork for Bsv at the fucking bottom.. that's how much I believe in it. I'm like you but with a better long term view.

Patents bitch.
Big blocks bitch.
Metanet bitch.
Law is law bitch.

We can't loose and PosM won't change this fact

>>12664491
Do you even realize that the internet is full of child porn and we are still allowed to use it you little mongo

>>12664415
enjoy losing anon, because that's what's happening to you

>>12664491
This retarded narrative is pretty tiresome. You can embed CP in any blockchain, shithead.
>>12664497
Hearn's argument is premature and in retrospect he was an idiot for selling near the bottom of the last bear market.
>proof work governance has existed long before its invention but there has never been a society/organisation that used it.
I'd be open to hearing out your argument here, since I've never heard anyone make this claim before, but citation definitely needed.

this thread is depressing. the market already decided that bch lost against btc, and you doubled down with a fork of a fork?

Why would a coin tgat people holding btc get for free ever surpass btc? Are cashies and SVs genuinly retarded?

Smart money is accumulating BSV - follow the money.
Btw, volume is going up, we get a nice little pump to 80-100$ soon

>>12664519
leave it to a bcash cultist to make that analogy

>>12664535
This.

OP, if nothing else cheers you up, just remember that this is the level of the people betting against you:
>>12664527
>>12664533
>>12664539

>>12664481
sure thing larper, go suck craigs cock while listening to his latest blogpost you brainlet

>>12664529
Pre revolutionary war Adam smith suggested america have representation proportional to work produced but thats not my point.
Governance systems dont have to be conceptualised academically for them to exist, if proof of work was what people claim it is (not altruistic) it should have established itself via evolution somewhere.
I dont think there was ever a more stable civilization than ancient egypt and they had a king

>>12664467
>yes it is clear as day to me, just as it is clear that csw and dave kleinmann were satoshi
And yet you're here wondering if you should kill yourself while true bitcoiners know bsv is a shitcoin. Ever thought that you fell for a cult?

>>12664611
Its like the same argument as socialism; everyone gets free stuff sounds good but the reality is gulags.
Pow is we incentivise value creation by giving more power to those best able to create it but all we get is core, blockstream, bitmain, shills and division.
Imagine if nchain dissapeared today there would be zero hope for proof of work winning, how is investing in bsv no brainer when its entire existence is dependent on satoshi and his mate mining/investing at a loss

Just remember, bsv is the bcash of bcash.

>>12664611
PoW is only even remotely feasible in the context of maintaining a blockchain. I don't see what the failure of previous governance or evolutionary systems to essentially invent Blockchain/PoW governance has to do with the chances that the "bitcoin experiment" will fail.
The only thing the Blockchain/PoW tech can be compared to historically is gold which, as we know, has been wildly successful as a stateless money for thousands of years.
>>12664621
Your time is coming, faggot.

>>12664331
yikes
This is why I don't own a gun
>>12664388
You're what we in the industry call a Virgin investor. Leave the moneymaking to the Chads

>>12664673
The characteristics of gold are dependent on physics/god whereas the characteristics of bitcoin are dependent on the governance system which is proof of work. The absence of any example of a proof of work governance system in nature implies it is not feasible, much less feasible than how moral a hypothesis pow seems makes it feasible.

Just had the thought that nchain is beginning to behave like a king wth its patents

>>12664739
>The absence of any example of a proof of work governance system in nature implies it is not feasible
This is 100% wrong. Just replace "proof of work" with any other man-made system of governance and you will see what I mean. It sounds stupid.

Personally I still believe that PoW, though much "messier" than legacy governance systems (which is essentially just another way of saying we don't 100% understand how every single moving part fits together), still has a chance of proving itself viable.
Core may have thrown a wrench in governance short term, but eventually either BTC miners start mining bigger blocks or the chain will lose its #1 position to one that scales. Bitcoin, as an experiment, is still in its infancy and it is premature to throw in the towel on PoW at this stage.
>Just had the thought that nchain is beginning to behave like a king wth its patents
It may be that the first stage of PoW establishing itself requires a "benevolent dictator" until the market matures to the point where miners are made to understand their role. Satoshi and Gavin were both effective benevolent dictators that could have shepherded bitcoin through the neonatal stage had they not been replaced by Core. If we must have a benevolent dictator until bitcoin grows up, there are far worse candidates than nChain.

SANJAY'S VISION GUYS! YOU'RE ALL HELPING FUND TOILETS FOR INDIA!

>>12664861
>Just replace "proof of work" with any other man-made system of governance and you will see what I mean
there are endless examples of monarchies that produced stable civilizations some for thousands of years.

>benevolent dictator
It's better defined by divine right i.e whoever is the stable solution to the game of power.
Bitcoin could make us come to that solution without war if people regardless of nation used the same currency.

I wanna buy your bags at 44

the absolute state of bsv cucks.

BSV = brainlets sucking vishnu

>>12664531
>people willingly buying a spork lmao

i have 63 bsv and 2 btc
wtf should i do?

>>12665106
Transform that 2 btc into bsv once it reach its TA level?

>>12664388
Bsv is literally just Craig Wright coin at this point. That's not how you gain adoption and success. Plus he isnt a very good spokesperson for a new financial age. Besides a fork of a fork is going to have pathetic levels of hash. There is a reason hal finney said not to follow too many splitting forks.

>>12665142
u think i should? whats the ta level?

I've been waiting for a thread like this. I try to bring up BSV in other threads (where relevant) and never get an honest discussion about it. I honestly think I'm going to go all in at these prices. While I do think we may see a dump to around ~$45 (pure speculation on my part), I think current price is still a bargain.
Why is there so little (genuine/substantial) discussion about this coin on /biz/? When will my bags pump? I just bought a house, so I only have a few grand to spare the re, but why wouldn't I go all in on BSV right now and HODL?

>>12665273
scum human

>>12664311
Do you not see the mass accumulation going on right now or what

Next time use a stop loss anon
It's piss easy

>>12665273
Beyond saving. Sad.

>>12665273
take 10% of what you want to put in bsv and spread it into alts that oppose proof of work

Craig Wright is a faggot

>>12664467
fuck you man. you are a retard. I'd try to explain but I have no time for you.

>>12664467
>but why cant "the market" see what you and i see as blatently obvious
Kek, delusion 101 folks. Neck yourself arrogant faggot.

>>12664311
Just buy some BTC and forget about that SV shitcoin and faketoshi. Don't worry, it'll be okay.

>>12664388
checked
>I put my money where my beliefs are.
Not going to knock anons for their beliefs, but would advice you suspend them when assessing market conditions. The market isn’t nessesarily concerned with virtue. It’s a nice thought though.

Example:
>More multinational corporate giants produce organic food for retail consumers not because of the virtue of the product, but only because of the demand for it.

>>12664426
Block propagation doesn't need to be solved. As long as 51% of the hashpower can receive the blocks in the correct order, in which they have incentive to do so.

>>12664388
>>12664415
dumbass fucking retard stop reading the whitepaper and open up the source code
if you read it now you might actually realize that "satoshi's vision" is not craig's spergfest con
if you don't fucking believe me just go to fucking bitcoin talk and FUCKING READ satoshi's posts
go there, read that shit and tell me craig knows what he's doing
I fucking double dare you you fucking retard

>>12665324
>>12665393
>>12665484
>>12665743
>The zero arguments brigade continues to shit on BSV with glee
Thanks just bought 100k

Hey guis it’s been a while.

Bitcoin SV is the only real Bitcoin.

>>12665324
How much property do you own and what do you drive? Are you a NEET or depressed wagie?
>>12665373
Smart. Any suggestions? Not BCH, right?
>>12665824
For real. The shameless FUD makes me want to accumulate.

>>12665743
I have memorized every satoshi post, friend. do yourself a favor and buy this book

https://www.bookofsatoshi.com/

>>12664481
are you the guy with 11k BSV in an electrum wallet?

>>12664467
>csw and dave kleinmann were satoshi
why do you think the market should care about this?

>>12666067
>implying that's a bad thing
I hold some of my BTC on fucking PrimeDice.

>>12666040
That second half of that post in pic related sounds just like CSW.
>>12665878
Hello. I sent think I've seen you're posts. Any news?

>>12666071
it's not a bad thing, i just want to know if it's him cuz 11k is $616k at $59, down from over 1 mil when he bought

>>12665726
That's not correct -- if you read satoshi's security proof, it assumes that honest miners are not constantly orphaning each others' blocks due to propagation delays.

Orphaning reduces effective hashpower. Attackers however can benefit from having a single consolidated pool.

>>12666084
I lost $10K in crypto

>>12666110
This is the same tired analysis that conveniently leaves out the fact that miners are incentivized to maintain the best possible connectivity with other miners.
Orphaning is a non-issue when all factors are taken into account.

I'd explain why you're a moron but I have no time for this thread

>>12665484
>>12666368
Kek, almost like you guys all read from the same script. SAD!

>>12664311
Anon i want to go all in

But the market doesnt want to

The market wins

>>12664946
Placing 45

>>12666040
Tezos

HAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Back

Stabbing

Vishnu

If you are one of the people against BSV simply because of Craig Wright, check out this brand new video (streamed 2 hours ago):

>The Craig Wright Timeline
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATapuAYgEeI

I suggest watching it at x1.75 speed. If you are lazy just watch a bit from 29:10

>>12664388
Because Craig is a legit scammer. I liked BSV as well, but I could not trust Craig. Sorry, bro.

>>12664311
You actually fucking bought BSV? Holy shit. You invested in a project and a man that is largely responsible for the giant bear market we are now in. A legit fucking scammer that is threatening to collapse all of crypto just to wage his eternal retarded war on crypto... My god you deserve to be poor

>>12668513
>nchain & blockstream spending millions of USD every month on BSV hashpower
>calling someone a scammer even though there's no way for him to exit with a profit
such scam

>>12668613
Why doesn’t that faggot prove he is Satoshi then, it would be so trivial, you literally have no argument.

>>12668630
1. That would enable Dave Kleiman's family to resume legal action.
2. That would make every government in the world know that he is Satoshi. Right now there is doubt.
3. That would make every criminal in the world know that he is Satoshi.
4. That would make every retard in the world know that he is Satoshi (in their mind they might blame him for their losses).

>>12668688
Bro, your cope is sad

also if he does a public signing people will just shift the narrative to "that only proves that he has the private keys, not that he is satoshi". so it wouldn't benefit him, however governments and courts can use it against him to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he is satoshi

>>12668698
you dense mother fucker... this stuff is obvious but you dont get it even if someone spells it out for you.

>>12668630
The way I see it, give it a couple of years and it will all come out. Either the Tulip trust opens up and CSW proves he was part of the Satoshi team, and he destroys BTC+Segwit too, or at least one of these doesn't happen. Then we'll know for sure what to do about BSV.

>>12668688
So he doesnt want to be known as satoshi so he tells the world hes satoshi but wont prove that he is satoshi (easily) so he can get around the problem - that he doesnt want to be known as satoshi

You are the literal definition of a brainlet.

welp I guess its time to accumulate. next goal 1000 BSV. if it goes low enough the goal is 10k or more. I am going to be the next Roger Ver. Fuck all you haters.

>>12664311
If it makes you feel better, I lost more on penny stocks than you lost even if you bought near the top.

>>12668750
Based

>>12668750

>>12668715
if you had watched the video i linked to in >>12667881 you'd know that he didn't want to come out as satoshi, he was extorted and then outed. but you just want him to not be satoshi too fucking much to actually check things yourself, it's much easier to just believe whatever someone else tell you to believe.

>>12668750
Build on it and fight it out for acceptance and adoption. Your road will be rocky. Godspeed anon.

>>12668715
This craigcucks are deluded as fuck

>>12669226
>la la la i can't hear you
that's my imitation of you

Crypto darwinism. The fake SV coin was the weaker chain and is now being killed off. Sorrynotsorry.jpg

>>12669184
yes

>>12669240

I see a bank

>>12669283
>>12669289
>la la la you are in cult, facts are not facts
you don't achieve much by doing this

While you are shouting cult, people are actually building great stuff on top of the Bitcoin protocol.

Thanks for letting me scoop bitcoin for 50€. Bought more.

>>12668688
The craigists truly are a cult
Anything except that he is just a compulsive liar and bullshitter. No proof of anything ever and nothing of substance

>>12669654
>great stuff on top of the Bitcoin protocol.
Bitcoin is ELECTRONIC CASH. not an application platform. SV is not bitcoin.

Stay Strong...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgqtcu0zo-k

>>12664491
crej couldn't make himself look any more idiotic if he tried

>>12664311
One of the most obvious shitcoins on the market

>>12669994
That's where you are wrong.
Bitcoin is the network of everything

I'd tell you not to kill yourself, but I don't have time for suicidal idiots

>>12670134
Point that out in the whitepaper shitstain. Oh, you can't

>>12670200
It’s the entire white paper retard

>>12670248
This

>>12669971
>la la la i dont want to watch videos or read anything but what i already agree with
jeez, another one?

Craig isn't Satoshi, proof is that he can't verify his identity on the public chain.

"Whats this? a new version of bitcoin? Well Ive never seen that before, better put a lot of money into this thing heh its going to the moon just like the original bitcoin."

funny that you can still pump and dump on people this hard after theyve seen the same story over and over again

>>12670313
Hello r/cc drones.
>faketoshi
Just as cringe as “hodl”. Mindless fucking drones.

>>12670432
>calls others mindless fucking drones
>mindlessly believes craig "faketoshi" wright

>>12670495
mindlessly taking in all the clear signs that he is in fact what's left of satoshi, you mean

>>12668688
imagine being this fucking retarded and convincing yourself of that

>>12664311

>>12670680
how could i possibly recover from this insightful comment?

>>12664388
>knows more about bitcoin than anyone
>cares about short term price
Not going to make it

>>12670913
Lol this.

>he doesn't know there's nothing after this

bump

>>12671294

Pajeets: Imagine not investing at these prices!

Me: I'm more than just imagining ^^

Wow look at their massive green dildo

holy fuck bought 5 minutes before the pump haha

>>12664535
Told you.
Starts now

>>12664388
> i probably know more about how bitcoin works than most of the core developers
(X) Doubt

AHH WHAT THE FUCK I WANTED TO ACCUMULATE

>>12671458
I did

>>12671420
You knew it fucker

>>12664311
Cheer up

holy fucking shit!

>>12671494
Npcs BTFO

Imagine the first pump off the bottom monthsago. And then imitating it again with btt and holo profits fueling it. 0.032-0.035 is like the absolute floor on this.. possible Craig pushes it to around 0.1.

End result is likely somewhere in between

mommy i'm rich!

Imagine the first pump off the bottom months ago. And then imagine it again with btt and holo profits fueling it. 0.032-0.035 is like the absolute floor on this.possible Craig pushes it to around 0.1.

End result is likely somewhere in between

>>12668688
If he didn't want to be known as Satoshi he wouldn't have offered fraudulent proofs to Gavin Andreson that involved digital slight of hand using a bash script: https://www.ccn.com/technical-proof-craig-wright-not-satoshi-nakamoto/

(note how he uses two seperate variables $signature and $signiture to perform the key verification)

You fell for a con man and you're not technically savvy enough to see through his sleight of hand. There is no 4d chess, occam's razor is that anyone who believes CSW is Satoshi fell for slick confidence tricks.

>>12671558
hey retard, thats the blog post thats not what he showed to Gavin. He signed an original message from Gavin with the private key from block 1 in his presence.

>>12664311
op what a pump we had are you happy?

>>12671633
Checked. OP, remember it is always darkest before the dawn. We are not out of the woods yet and the worst may be yet to come, but if you cannot trust and stick by your instincts/intellect in this life, then who the hell cares anyway.
Rage against the dying of the light, OP. It is in our blood and it is what made our ancestors great.

Volume is increasing fast

>>12671616
And I'm supposed to just supposed to take Gavin's word for it? No, I don't think so. Cryptocurrency is meant to be a trustless system: an end of trusted authorities like that. I have no reason to trust Gavin Anderson or that he wasn't fooled by CSW. Satoshi invented Bitcoin so I don't have to trust a third party in that manner and take his word for it. No signature with genesis block -> meaningless conjecture

You can believe what you like but your standards for evidence are a lot lower than mine and you are far more likely to be conned by someone who knows how to manipulate your FOMO anxiety.

>>12671732
CSW has literally no reason to reveal that he is satoshi, it only works against him, because everyone who would care anyway already believes him
>FOMO
He literally says the value in the network is transactional, not in HODL moonboy price action, which makes this part of your post nonsensical. CSW never said "invest in SV the price will go up!! HODL!!!", he's not a retard

>>12664311
Prime look at the falling wedge

>>12671732
>t. Guy who was not around in the early days and has no idea what kind of a guy Gavin was/is.
I also like how you completely ignore that it is just as possible to con oneself with evidentiary standards that are too strict as it is with those that are too loose. High-pass and low-pass filters both cut off information.
CSW derangement nutcases like you are essentially the fedora atheists of the crypto world, autistically clinging to an oversimplified framework of understanding that completely misses the bigger picture.

>>12671787
>CSW never said "invest in SV the price will go up!! HODL!!!", he's not a retard
Why would he when you retards do it for him? The flippening is right around the corner right? Just hodl till 2020 and the tulip trust gets unlocked (lol). Just look at all the bagholders ITT telling eachother to hodl.

>he has no reason to reveal
He has no ability to reveal he's Satoshi and there's no real reason to believe he is unless you are are just wishful thinking because of FOMO.

>>12671821
I agree with you, anyone who buys bitcoin SV as a speculative hold is an idiot. Didn't I write that in my last post?
People are building businesses and apps on bitcoin SV. The value is in the network and its use of bitcoin as electronic cash

>>12671819
I was around in the early days. I don't give a fuck about personalities. If you assert you are Satoshi, prove it using the technology Satoshi invented or be known as a LARPer.

>con yourself with strict standards
This is a very poor rationalization for the type of FOMO anxiety that will cause you to baghold long after everyone else has left the building. Shitcoins are shitcoins until proven otherwise. Good luck my friend. You will need it.

Whether or not CSW is Satoshi doesn't really matter, the fact is he and SV have the closest vision for what bitcoin should become as Satoshi did, which is why most people got into bitcoin to begin with. Everyone whose business model profits immensely from simply holding BTC and contributing nothing to the bitcoin economy voted for small blocks and that's how we got the original split

You fuckers are doing the same mistake again.

Discussing about CSW instead of BSV.
It's about Bitcoin, it's about what's it's evolving too, it's about how it scales.

Fuck CSW fuck Satoshi, long live the idea from the whitepaper.

Buy Bsv

>>12671857
>very poor rationalization for the type of FOMO anxiety...
Thanks for confirming that you are a brainlet with no argument.
>>12671867
This guy gets it.

>>12671898
Uh yeah people are going to talk about CSW when you bring up BSV and rightfully so considering he controls a majority of BSV hashrate.

Nobody wants to invest in a coin controlled by a fraudster. Dumb pajeets don't understand this apparently

>>12672046
>invest in a coin
>bitcoin SV
Anyone doing this must be a complete idiot and should re-read the whitepaper and a random sample of CSW's tweets

>>12672046
Am I fraud for telling my friends I'm the bhudda and then I became the Dalai Lama when I grew up?
Or I am hosting the Spirit of bhudda now?

Just kidding, csw clearly is Satoshi

>>12672117
bagholder cope

>>12672138
>csw clearly is Satoshi
hahahaha the bsv bagholder cope

please sir do kindly buying of bitcoin samgunshi vision

What you guys don't understand is Satoshi Nakamoto IS NOT one person, and Craig being one of the douchebag in the group didn't die in a horrible accident. Cope with it easily.

>>12672150
Why would I buy BSV when CSW literally tweets stuff like this?
>I will not be a "leader" for a bunch of lazy assholes who think you HODL and become rich. Without effort
https://twitter.com/ProfFaustus/status/1089351161264685058
I literally own 0 SV because I'd rather build apps on it and make money on the flow of commerce over the rails of internet money (bitcoin).
https://twitter.com/ProfFaustus/status/1092313893291085824
Anyone arguing in favor of holding SV has a severe reading disability

>>12664311
they'll pump it at some point in the future
all coins PnD and they all go through rotations
just set your sell orders and you should be fine

>>12672164
You fail to realize that I don't even care.
If it was not csw saving Bitcoin with SV.. I would even follow McAfee if he was the one saving it.
I'm in for the whitepaper version

>>12664415
who gives a fuck about scaling faggot
if you still think BTC is for everyday transactions then you need ur head examined
Bitcoin core or BTC whatever you want to call it is the winner because people believe in it and it has consensus, period
shove ur shitcoin in ur asshole Craig and get the fuck off this board

>>12672269
b-b-but i want to buy a cup of coffee with cryptocurrency

muh micropayments

aah, so that is why BTC is dumping today
Craig is dumping a large portion of his mined BTC and buying more of his BSV

>>12671819
Based redpilled NPC slayer

>>12671819
Based and redpilled

>>12672375
>>12672381
bagholder cope

>>12664311
Sad thread 2bh.

>>12669563
>pretending that a fraud is satoshi
>calling that a fact
you are in a cult - fact

>>12670295
>la la la
hi greg

>>12672396
R/cryptofaggot detected

>>12672422
>(5)
>Literally everything I post is a one-liner following the same theme.
For you newfags... this is what pajeet-tier shilling looks like. Filtered

>>12671867
> the fact is
nope

>>12672453
keep telling yourself that you've found the real bitcoin and everybody else is too much of a sheeple to see it

it's a good coping mechanism for not buying at $50 in 2013

>>12672472
sure thing reddit meme faggot. whatever you say. please be posting more reddit memeskond sir. buy more bcash sv - the true satoshi bcash

Just how delusional would anyone have to be to think CSW is Satoshi? More importantly, what difference does it make at this point? Core controls the hashrate.

Any version of bitcoin is completely obsolete anyway. Boomer crypto.

>>12672422
It is a fact. You'd have to be functionally retarded if you haven't realized it yet.

Only the slowest in the special needs class and literal shills still pretend like Craig isn't Satoshi.

>>12672522
But they will loose the hash when transaction fees alone don't pay miners.

What miners need are alot fucking transactions and these only fit in big blocks.

Chess mate

>>12672515
Sheeple? It’s one of the most controversial coins at the moment you fucking retard.
>denying that bitcoin ever changed
Good luck with your shitstains

>>12672685
you are illiterate, reread the post you responded to again

cope harder

>>12672685
He truly belongs on 4chan. Shame he'll get assraped in prison soon.
Perhaps he'll be able to shitpost from jail with us between sodomy sessions.

>>12672685
I have never seen a supposed billionaire genius be so petty, posting other peoples yachts and generally just being such an asshole.

His entire persona screams fraud.

>>12672721
Good. You’ll feel even worse when I make it then.

>>12665273
>I honestly think I'm going to go all in at these prices
what for lol? this shitcoin has no usecase. it's not bitcoin. no matter what the delusional cashies and craig cultists spout.

>>12664535

Yep, I had buys set at 60. Next target 95.

>>12673264
>one post by this ID

>>12664388
>it... i have been into bitcoin since 2010. I have put thousands of hours of autistic research, i probably know more about how bitcoin works than most of the core developers not even joking. I could recite the whitepaper from memory at this point. I know what the fuck bitcoin is, and I p

please tell me this is bait

>>12673458
>Reddit mentality

Hmm, the market is dumping while bsv is pumping. We have all seen this before. Craig has started to unload the next round of his mined BTC. Expect a week long dump again like the last time?

>>12673564
>Craig has started to unload
Yeah you love it don't you

>>12670567
My God, I've always wanted to fuck her

>>12669184
>he was extorted and then outed
no he was extorted with the threat they out him as nakamoto (which was not true but quiet inconvenient). the truth of the matter is craig may have been an early miner but all signs point to him not being a major contributor rather than some fuck that tries to profiteer off of a new paradigm and twist it to his own agenda. unsuccessfully i might add.

>>12664611
What are you even babbling about? That's not what PoW is.

>>12669971
>nothing of substance
well he has a distinctive writing style at least so it proves he never posted as satoshi nakamoto pre 2014

>>12673783
Bampin this epic thread for Magica

>>12673791
He has more patents than Thomas fucking Edison! If someone has the brainpower and vision to create bitcoin, it is Craig Steven Wright. You must have testicles for eyes if you don't see that

>>12674700
>He has more patents than Thomas fucking Edison!
guess who didn't had any patents? satoshi nakamoto! there is a key difference in not just style and attitude between the two but also their endgame.

in crypto patents don't fucking matter. the code and consensus is all that matters. it's a system that does not need legal enforcing or any central authority. that is what bitcoin is all about that cw never understood.

>>12674744
>in crypto patents don't fucking matter. the code and consensus is all that matters. it's a system that does not need legal enforcing or any central authority.
You are litereally a fool if you believe this. Altt that matters in this world is violence. Who controls that?

>>12674783
no in crypto violence is meaningless. central authority bullshit like patents and institutions are meaningless. consensus is all that matters. i can see you grasping for straws. but it's the truth.

>>12664388
wtf are u even talking about i bought btc in early 2017 and had an ath of $800k, how do you not have a hundred million dollars if you've been in btc since fucking 2010

>>12674806
You're not worth my time

>>12674843
heh that's one way to throw in the towel manlets say this in the bar when they fuck off with their tail between their legs.

>>12664311
DOO DE NEEDFUL
POO IN LOO

>>12673783
This

>>12664311
Its disentery pajeet. Don't drink from the Ganges. Also poo in loo.

>>12674744
>IP law, one of the few types of law with real global reach, will not apply to a blockchain of consequence
You are one dumb anon, anon.
>>12674806
You are the one who is grasping at straws if you think that crypto is 100% immune to the power of the state. I don't like the state either, and I like and appreciate how bitcoin subverts the state, particularly the modern "social democratic" state (aka, parasite paradise), but if you think the state and its workings will have no effect on the trajectory of this tech you are delusional beyond saving.

>>12675050
agian you fail to understandd the main concept behind crypto and bitcoin. just as craig fails to grasp it. he thinks he understands capitalism but his approach is juvenile like an average /pol/tards.

crypto doesn't need laws doesn't need authority and doesn't need trust and it still works. bitcoin proved this. that was the fucking point. because trust and authority always gets abused.

but fur arguments sake did satoshi nakamoto patent his revolutionary new crypto system kept is close source and tried to profit from it, or did he published it no strings attached not jut the whitepaper but a full working implementation?

>if you think that crypto is 100% immune to the power of the state
i said it doesn't fucking need it you imbecile. everything else in our lives needs a central power to derive the rules of operation from. crypto does not. that's the revolutionary about it. not fucking blockchain not the electronic transactions not the signatures all that crap is meaningless in itself. bitcoin doesn't need a legal system to work in. get it through your head!

>>12675050
In addition to IP laws. Don’t forget the US literally raided another country (NZ) to arrest (Kim dotcom) because of IP (pirating) protection. THEY WILL USE BSV IF THEY CAN PROTECT EVERY FUCKING EXPORT MEDIA.

>ILL JUST DOWNLOAD IT

NO YOU WONT. EVERY ELECTRONIC WILL BE CONNECTED TO BITCOIN AND RUNNING OFF A CLOUD. ANYONE WHO CANT SEE THE NEAR TERM FUTURE SHOULD GET OUT OF CRYPTO.

HOLY FUCK. ROGER PAYING YOU FUCKING SHILLS THAT ARE RETARDED.

>>12675155
what are you smoking? i want some!

>>12675179
Cringe boomer humour. Crawl back in your hole ver

>>12675155
>THEY WILL USE BSV IF THEY CAN PROTECT EVERY FUCKING EXPORT MEDIA
well apparently it's the opposite for now sv is the sole immutable public store of illegal content that is truly censorship resistant. well it's not secure like bitcoin but we will see how this goes with the states and 3 letter orgs.

>>12675217
please faggit i truly despise that attention whore psycho. well i despise all cashies to a degree subhuman scum they are, but some more than others. noone is that high on the shitlist as craig faketoshi gaylord wright tho.

>>12675230
They build applications off it retard. Instead of posting maybe you should read a book.

>>12675254
hmm... did you fry your last synapse? how is that an argument?

>>12675118
>it still works
The fact that 'it works' doesn't mean it has value.
Enjoy transferring your literally worthless shitcoins from address to address.

>>12675266
oh nigger you just don't get it... bitcoin is consensus. plain and simple. even the price is consensus reached by this wonderful thing called market price discovery.

>>12675118
>believes in the /pol/boogeyman
>Wants people to take him seriously

"MOM! THERE IS A NAZI UNDER MY BED AND INSIDE MY HEAD!"

You still need to convert crypto into something spendable that process is where it all breaks down.
Someone giving you large sums of cash is going to raise flags. You need to launder everything before you make a major purchase or the IRS will be all over your ass.
Get a grip.
Even actual legal tender is near useless without a source given, unless you are talking about buying your groceries, then yeah, above the law and shit.

>>12675289
You are absolutely a brainlet. You will be paying everything in bitcoin. Read the white paper.

>>12675288
i said craig has the understanding of capitalism as a system that is at the level of /pol/tards. rest is just in your head.

>>12675118
>agian you fail to understandd
>did he published it no strings attached
>that's the revolutionary about it.
Setting side the fact that you completely fail to comprehend what you are trying to argue against, this is some pajeet tier posting. Holy smokes you are not nearly as smart as you seem to think you are.
I mean, you actually put forward the argument that just because bitcoin doesn't need a legal system to function means that its development is unaffected by the law. You are ~90 level IQ at best, but I think even that might be generous.

>>12675287
Which affected by the government indirectly (while waiting for etf approval).
>prosecute owning of bitcoin
>normies flock away
>price = destroyed
How can you not see this?

>>12675288
>NAZI UNDER MY BED AND INSIDE MY HEAD
Checked, keked and heil'd

>>12675321
MOOOOOOOOOOM!

>>12675327
no faggot i said because bitcoin doesn't need a legal system to function the laws are actually beneath it. patents included. not to mention how ridiculous the entire idea of patens in the opensource world are. as for development yeah laws don't dictate the code at all. if a country made a law that you can't use integers in your code bitcoin would give fuck all about that.

>You are ~90 level IQ at best
if that's your argument nigga that speaks for itself.

If you dont claim income you can't buy a fucking thing. Your right to own property is forfeit, what dont uou fucking understand? How do you think they got Capone for millions in actual legal currency?
IRS: Who owns this?
I do.
IRS:Where did the money come from ?
Uhhhhhh
IRS: We are taking it and you are going to jail.

>>12675327
>doesn't operate within "the law"
>can use "the law" whenever necessary

BSV's patents cannot be enforced in most countries, refer to general processes and seem to be limited to software only. Good luck with the bags of shit.
By the way "the world" is not going to be using bitcoin.
Also since when has innovation stemmed from some faggot attempting to use financial and legal means to destroy the competition?

anybody have the website where you can upload files to sv chain? and view all the other files their?

>>12675343
come on... market sentiment is what forms the price and sure enough it can be influenced but it can not be controlled. it's consensus. they market is always right, which actually means saying the market is wrong is retarded. it just literally shows what people think something is worth. bitocin market cap is minuscule for now let's see how much they can influence it when it overtakes gold...
>>12675357
sorry if i hurt your feelings anon!

>>12675394
>Also since when has innovation stemmed from some faggot attempting to use financial and legal means to destroy the competition?
indeed

>>12675417
I am rubber and you are glue everything you say bounces of me and sticks to you!

>>12671867
well said

btw guys someone made a compilation to show how based Craig Wright is on twitter:
https://youtu.be/tDjdLVcgVdQ

>>12675374
>Developers and miners are above the law as long as they are using bitcoin.
trump_debate_WRONG.gif
>>12675394
>BSV's patents cannot be enforced in most countries
You are an idiot if you think this will be true for anyone with serious capital who develops a killer app for BTC/BSV
>>12675399
b.bitdb.network/

>>12675289
the goal is that your employer pays you BSV, then you buy food etc from a company that accepts BSV and then uses BSV to restock. eventually the government will accept BSV for taxes, i think California or some other US state have already started accepting crypto for taxes.

>>12675491
>b.bitdb.network/
fuck i need the trsanction number to file each file

>>12664481
lol pathetic larp

millions without stop loss? millions without cashing out?

you are a poor piece of shit and should kill yourself. i hope you lose all your money.
i know its not much but for a faq like you its still a lot and i hope its more than you can take.

not RIP you will not be missed

>>12675491
"Killer apps" bypass basic patent laws. Sure thing brainlet.

>b.bitdb.network/
This is where people are uploading endless images of CP. Immutable blockchain. What a dumpster fire.

>>12675560
>Be awesome dev team
>Create awesome app that leverages SV to build up a user base of tens of millions in a country where you are in violation of a CSW patent
Do you: (A) try and negotiate a licensing agreement with CSW and rake in billions or (B) give CSW the finger and see what happens.
Protip: If you chose (B), you might be a ~90 IQ borderline retard.
>Using the word "dumpster fire" to make up for your complete lack of understanding about what is being discussed around you
>>>/reddit/

>>12675701
>dumpster fire
This is what SV is, as you described.
>entertaining the thought of paying CSW for usage of the blockchain
cuck

>>12675847

>>12664317
My good friend did a water only fast for 10 days, fixed his stomach issues. Apparently fasting is VERY good for the body.

>>12675560
>Patent infringement is the commission of a prohibited act with respect to a patented invention without permission from the patent holder. Permission may typically be granted in the form of a license. The definition of patent infringement may vary by jurisdiction, but it typically includes using or selling the patented invention. In many countries, a use is required to be commercial (or to have a commercial purpose) to constitute patent infringement.
pretty much impossible to prove commercial purpose (ie your profiting) in case of an opensource software. even if you patent the technology so long the other guy doesn't see any profit from using your work (especially if he credited you for it and not trying to pretend it's his invention) you are shit out of luck in most courts.

patent trolling won't work in crypto it only works against snakeoil shitcrap projects that are "closed source proprietary solutions" ie no interest to us.

>>12675701
How hard is it to understand that a patent granted in Pakistan cannot be enforced in Iceland (ignoring WIPO which is limited and can be challenged jurisdictionally anyway?)

Devs can use any one of multiple chains and cannot be strong armed by nchains' nonsense in most countries.

I would say creating a forever-trove of cp that is going to expand infinitely is a problem. It's becoming increasingly likely that this is BSV's raison d'être (who the fuck is going to micro-pay for movies?) hence dumpster fire.

>>12675491
>Developers and miners are above the law as long as they are using bitcoin.
they are above the law. this is quiet literally demonstrated every time they ban bitcoin in a country. bitcoin doesn't care. it doesn't stop at the borders it can not be confiscated at the borders.

>>12675902
not only that but you would have to pay for all currently free services over the internet like sending a chat message wtf? and that is ignoring the nonsense about metanet making the internet svs "side chain"... which is like suddenly deciding "your legs are a side chain of your pants" retarded.

>>12675902
>How hard is it to understand that a patent granted in Pakistan cannot be enforced in Iceland (ignoring WIPO which is limited and can be challenged jurisdictionally anyway?)
Check out this guy who thinks that people who are serious about protecting their IP don't file in every jurisdiction under the sun like everyone else who does serious R&D. It could not be more obvious you have no clue what you are talking about. IP is global and has been global for a long time. Stiff bickies, m8.
>>12675911
Now getta load of this goy who thinks that serious devs are going to be constantly on the run hiding from the state when they could have a penthouse apartment in every major global city on earth. I wonder how many of these types of people have ever left their basement, much less their own country.

>>12675941
>cannot imagine paying a few fractions of a cent for search/curation/streaming services that are better than Jewgle, et al.
That's okay, buddy. We know you are differently abled. Your kind didn't see the world wide web coming either. Shhhhh... that's it little guy. Just focus on the white noise and everything will be okay.

>>12675992
I am involved in a start up that is developing its own global patent strategy as we speak. We are protected in the USA, so I guess that's good enough for China. Absolute brainlet.

Have fun with CPV.

Do it you faggot. One less asshole breathing oxygen on this planet.

>>12675941
As much as metanet allows you to pay for the internet with money instead of your data it also allows you to be paid for your data. So if you dont care about the data harvesting of the current internet in meta net you can continue selling your data and viewing ads but you will be paid instead of a third party

Imagine spotify where listening to songs cost money (paid directly to artist per second) but watching ads pays you.
We then have a marketplace for music which will massively increase the quality of music.

>>12676112
meh content creators are like 0.01% of the world. i'm not going to pay for my 10 minute tx chat messages per byte. it's fucking retarded no matter who says what. you can't replace a free service with a paying one that is shittier. if that worked we would all be sipping bottled air that smells like ass.

>>12675992
>It could not be more obvious you have no clue what you are talking about. IP is global and has been global for a long time.
Lol tell that to China, India or Russia. Clueless.

>>12676160
did you even read what I said?
I said if you care less about ads and data collection than paying then you will be paid to use the web in exchange for your data and viewing ads

>>12664311
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIh3SgIAP80

>>12675992
>Now getta load of this goy who thinks that serious devs are going to be constantly on the run hiding from the state when they could have a penthouse apartment in every major global city on earth.
they don't have to hide since there is no law they break. but suppose you make it illegal to make code changes to bitcoin and even make github enforce that retarded law how do you imagine that would do any good for you? you think that will stop development? you think devs can't work anonymously contributing by literal proof of work reviewed by the community? you think git actually needs github? fucking retard...

>>12676188
jesus fuck that's horrifying i like my adblocker and noscript where it is thank you!

>>12676210
>he thinks there is a free lunch

>>12676266
lunch maybe not but the amount of content you can consume for free is staggering. a lifetime is not enough. just the books and movies i torrented would amount to the net worth of an average boomer.

>>12676301
so you steal things

>>12676063
>Global patent strategy
>Not filing in China
Mmmmmhmmm. Please keep posting so the kids at home can get a really good idea of what kind of a special imbecile posts anti-BSV fud on 4chan all day.
>>12676188
Don't even bother, dude. It's in one ear and out the other with this jackass.
>>12676301
All your ignorance of how the big boy world works aside, this THIS shit is how I know your time is worthless and you are barely an adult. When you actually have money, the problem is not that there is a hundred lifetimes worth of content to consume it is finding the best content to consume in the limited time you have between doing serious shit. I and most other people like me who actually do valuable work for a living would pay through the nose if there was a guarantee that the content was 1SD better than the garbage pushed by YT and Netflix as part of the Jewed to hell and back media hellscape that dominates the early 21st century.
Not at all surprised that someone like you cannot see that value, but please keep posting here. You are a good foil for educating the people on the fence about what is actually going on right now in crypto. Even retards have their part to play.

>>12676475
I know what he is but he is refining my arguments for free by trying to find holes in them

>>12671616
>gavin
gavin glows in the fucking dark

>>12672204
that's very wrong
the code lacks comments
it was made by 1 guy and it's very evident

>If you are a good gir, one day you'll be able to enter SV blockchain
>YEEEEEY CAAANT WAAAAAIIT
>To prepare, we will have to go to that van over there

>>12677408
Nice slander. Theymos must truely be proud churning out double-plus goodthinking faggots like you with his precious (((narrative)))
>>12677446
Just because the code was written by one person doesn't mean that Satoshi wasn't a team.

>>12677582
>being this meme ridden
Do you have a single original thought?

Nobody is talking to you, idiot. Though I have to say being accused of using too many memes on 4chan is some pretty funny shit.
Seethe harder, faggot.

>>12677645
Typical SV supporter. Lacking in any critical thinking faculty, substituting it with an mesh of predigested slogans, delusions.

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>>12664311
Listen up you little cocksuckers, you are either with Craig, or against him. He fucking invented this shit, so he has the RIGHT to destroy anything in this space as he sees fit. How fucking DARE you faggots develop anything involving crypto without his express permission? Well, you've really fucked up now, because Craig is coming after you degenerate anarchists, and you will lose EVERYTHING, and probably end up in prison because of it. You "investors" have participated in the illegal buying and selling of unlicensed securities, and have encouraged others to do the same, which is also illegal.
I'm forwarding this thread directly to Craig, as he is a very good friend of mine from the bathhouse scene. Prepare to get fucked like only Craig can fuck, you retards!

>>12678172
Thanks, just bought 100k.

>>12678563
I'll have Craig take you off the "to be fucked in the ass" list. Any assfucking that still occurs is NOT intentional.

>>12678172
BASED and Alex Jones-Pilled

Posting in epic bread

>>12674744

When he created Bitcoin he didn't have the money to file endless patents, because at the time it wasn't worth anything.

Now he is a billionaire due to the meteoric price increase and can file however many he wants. Patents are fucking expensive man.

>>12679182

if CSW is SN than why doesnt he just post the block transactions for 1 btc in satoshies wallet

>>12679774
what's in it for him? Would it change anything other than the placement of the goalpost?

>>12679848
so you blindly let this guy shill you?

>>12679856
No. The proof is in the pudding.

>>12679868
And he's baking one poop-filled cheesecake

>>12679774
A mystery is more powerful than the truth
- in many ways

>>12679774
There are many reasons not to, and very few reasons to do it.

If you were intelligent enough to understand his work and his history in crypto, you wouldn't need proof to realize he is Satoshi. In fact I believe it's one of the primary reasons why he doesn't prove it, so all he retards in the world, like you, gets off his nuts.

He benefits from people paying him no mind and calling him faketoshi so he can work in peace without the constant eyes and scrutiny of millions of retard traders, fanboys, HODLers, haters and media stooges all up in his shit 24/7.

You are essentially doing him a favor by shilling against him.

Pump incoming.

>>12679774
it's already been said earlier in the thread:

1. That would enable Dave Kleiman's family to resume legal action.
2. That would make every government in the world know that he is Satoshi. Right now there is doubt.
3. That would make every criminal in the world know that he is Satoshi.
4. That would make every retard in the world know that he is Satoshi (in their mind they might blame him for their losses).
5. If he does a public signing people will just shift the narrative to "that only proves that he has the private keys, not that he is Satoshi". So it wouldn't benefit him. However courts can use it against him to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he is Satoshi.

>>12680052
This.
Especially point 1 and 5.

>>12680052
it's only those things secondarily

primarily he won't sign because the system satoshi made is proof of work.
if craig signs satoshis keys it becomes proof of stake because people follow the the authority of satoshi instead of the value of work

>>12680089
I see you follow him on Twitter

>>12680089
Decent enough point (minus the "proof of stake" part, would be more "proof of authority"). Wouldn't say it's the primary point though. I'm sure he's more concerned about staying out of legal trouble right now so he can keep focusing on his work.

Could you imagine being a part of this bch shenanigans. Holy fuck

>free fork
Muh true bitcoin. Must have less than 50 iq to believe ver and those other greedy fucks. Congratulations, seriously, you did well. This pump is also fake and sketchy as fuck. Good luck faggots

>>12680142
>Good luck faggots
you probably don't even mean that!

>>12680012
>>12680052

i dont understand why he would claim to be something and not do the only thing that would show to the world that he is. If he isnt than why did he say that he was -and give himself scrutiny for no reason. And if he is why doesnt he just own it then for better or worse. I dont know the man personally but he seems like someone to confront a problem head on not slinking around it for 8 years hoping people wont notice.

>>12680317
he was subjected to extortion and was then outed as satoshi, he wasn't the one initiating the claims. here's a little compilation of "the craig wright timeline": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATapuAYgEeI

>>12680317
He never wanted to go public but was doxxed, threatened and extorted to do it. Being well versed in game theory, he decided the best course of action was to go public, hence the BBC interview, but make the proof ambiguous enough to maintain plausible deniability. He ended up proving it privately to a handful of people, which seemed to be enough to satisfy the bind he was in. He intentionally made the proof so doubtful that he there is still a cloud of doubt in the public eye, but at the same time still letting certain people know that he is Satoshi.

I keep hearing this argument why he would go public without actually proving it unequivocally. But it makes sense if you realize he never actually wanted to go public but was forced to due to circumstances.

>>12680052
I cant code anon how do i profit from this? I mean buying sv are discouraged right

>>12664311
Sounds like u have stomach cancer anon. Sorry

>>12680380
just like in my japanese animes

>>12681102
Kek

Pump

Meme triangle.
Moon soon