/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>12650027
it would literally take me 3 minutes to do create this from wood and old electronics in my garage

>>12650334
Prove it and do it

>>12650334
why havent u done this urself yet then anon and set up a 100mil ico and gotten rich?

>>12650027
OH NO NO NO

>>12650027
the amount of pajeet shilling for this scam is fucking remarkble

>>12650334
this wtf. and the actual sensor is the size of a briefcase and looks like something an 80s tech startup made in their garage

scamsetti pulls another one

>>12650344
half of u retards are buying 0xbtc and the bittorrent token lmao

some random untrusted "company" ran by a bunch of nobodies makes some prototype chink hardware and you think it's an important milestone?

they literally couldn't be any more irrelevant

>>12650347

Jesus Christ. How much more obvious can this scam be. Fucking zip ties, 1996 looking electronics.

They are putting on this facade. They will claim lack of interest and do a legal exit scam with the rest of the ico money. It’s obvious.

>>12650789
if it's so obvious, why are they showinng the claimed "shitty" tech?
If it's truly shit then they shouldn't say anything about it and do stuff to pump the price so they can exit at a higher price.
>imagine being this DELUDED

>>12650833
Because if they ever get taken to court, they can say we tried our best and “ran out of funding”. You have to make it look like your actually trying to “do the right thing” in a proper exit scam.

They are going to start announcing stuff before from now-feb 22 (exactly what’s happen) to pump this shit and sell all their locked/advisor tokens on the 22nd.

>>12650983
Team and advisor tokens are locked until April 22nd, not February. Furthermore, 10m tokens have been confirmedly moved from the development pool for the purpose of onboarding clients in the past month.

If you're going to fud, at least have the common courtesy to do it well. Or not on a reverse-shill thread where you're actually agreeing with the OP's subliminal messaging.

>>12651088
>Until April 22nd
See pic you absolute fucking retard. Do you even keep up with the scam your shilling?

>>12651160
don't be dense. They've delayed the lockup three times now.
>this time they will definitely dump

>>12651190
They delayed the unlock because they continiously miss deadlines and “investors” would loose their shit.

Amb will release the mainnet this month. Everybody will see the pitiful bundle numbers while amb says they have more big client “in the pipeline”. You idiots will continue holding while they dump on you. You must live in flint and drink the water, because nobody can be this stupid.

I apologize to Angel Chadetti and all the people working for Ambrosus for fudding and doubting this great project.
I know this sounds like bait but I unironically apologize and respect them.

Do people actually think adoption would happen this quickly? Because details of POC's havent been publicly disclosed, this means its a scam?
THAT is delusion

>>12651376
Hey anon, we didn’t necessary think adoption would be this fast, but somebody at amb sure did
>1 million bundles within 2 years
That was about a year ago.

Holy shit... at least the chinks of WTC have a working product, and its chip its way fucking smaller..

Just a perspective from a faggot in the embedded electronics field. These are just off the shelf RF modules. The patch antennas shown are for passive GHz range reception of GPS and other low gain satellite communications. These are not RFID compatibile (even with an external energizing transmitter).

>>12651160
How about you muster your courage and venture into the actual tg chat, where everyone's favorite janny will tell you what the actual date is? It's really not that hard.

Also, the key words are "at least," you faggot. And this project hasn't been legitimately shilled in here in months.

>>12650027

>Attach RFID to a box containing nothing but human fecal matter
>Scan it
>Enters blockchain as legit product
>Shipped to the merchant retarded enough to buy these supply meme shitcoins

Now eat the shit. Eat it!

>>12650027
Posting this again so dumb people can be warned about this:

This company is vaporware, I talked to both Angel and Rado about creating some hardware and software applications for them.

In the time since they have made very little progress as shown by their innovation lab updates. For a while I was convinced they would be a good company, but it turns out they are just like all the other blockchain startups. No real enterprise experience and application.

>>12652433
False. This is an example of Dunning-Kruger effect. Fuck off

>>12652447
Sure, here is a document of a project that I ran at a very large enterprise company consisting of literally the exact same type of hardware running on IBM hyperledger. This work was created in about a week, probably 45 man hours.

You don't have to believe me, I am just warning you there is very little here.

>>12652523
Fair

>>12652523
Nice what keywords did you use in google to find these?

>>12652605
What would it take to prove that this is my work? Honestly wondering why no one on this website ever takes advice. I come here and ask for advice and opinions quite frequent without seeing the need to background check people.

What do you want me to show you to prove I know what I am talking about?

>>12652433
Imagine if people actually believe you..

>>12652096
>tg chat
Fuck outa here with that echo chamber shit.

>>12652630
post a timestamp with something related to the project

>>12652681
To Ambrosus or to my previous work?

>>12652630
>Honestly wondering why no one on this website ever takes advice
Nigger are you for real? Do you have any idea how much terrible advice I've handed out in this shithole?

>>12652740
No he's not serious you idiot there is no such thing as a serious AMB thread on /biz/ it is all FUD even the tripfag in here is a fudding piece of shit.

>>12652702
Here is an email chain from Ambrosus headquarters and myself, they were not interested in expanding into the US market when I reached out. They are very nice, but they have not made much progress.

This looks better, and it’s a reverse ICO

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5101456.0

>>12652523
Ambrosus street shitters absolutely BTFO.
>>12652785
ADMINS WE NEED FLAGS

>>12652842
No one believed me so I posted
>>12652781
as well to show that I am not just shitting on Ambrosus for no reason, they are very nice people and I spoke on the phone with Rado twice. The problem is progress, and the fact that people are shilling and spending real dollars on this. They have millions and should be able to report more progress.

>>12652781
Oh fuck. Ok I believe you. Why the fuck would they turn down help and hire a fucking overpaid Versace marketer? Now I’m pissed

>>12652781
Sir do you have any insider information on Constellation? They are also allegedly working on hyperledger integration.

call me a larping faggot if you want...
I have no feelings toward this project either way
but a couple hours ago I posted a long reply stating the hardware shown was not correct for the application they are specifying. That post has since been removed by someone... take that as you will

>>12652781
Also FOAM is based in NYC and doing a lot of experimentation with IoT. Please share more

>>12652910
You have link ?

>>12652780
I'm serious this project is fucking trash.

>>12652921
scratch that, i am a blind faggot, carry on

imagine investing real money in this garage scrap presentation

YIKES

>>12652921
Da fun? The jannies deleting shit here?

every ""supply chain"" coins out there are trash and its supporters are the same type of retards that would think getting a degree in ""data science"" is a good idea as opposed to just majoring in math/stats

>>12652780
Lol this is exactly what I said. No one posts unironically in these cookie-cutter threads anymore. Aside from a chance at stumbling across quick-flip microcaps, this board has morphed primarily into a useless shitstain and will likely continue to be one until the market turns.

>>12652986
nah, just me be rarted. removed it to avoid undue FUD, see my above post

>>12652875
I guess they did not want to expand out into the US marketplace according to their emails.

>>12652894
I do not have any insider information on Constellation, if you would like I can do a report for you on this company as a consultant.

>>12652918
I do not know much about FOAM, if you would like I can do a report for you on this company as a consultant.

The truth is I have mostly moved out of the blockchain space, there were many enterprise use-cases which I spoke at conferences about a few times. The main problem with the technology is companies that ruin it for everyone else by providing vaporware.

>>12652781
Fuck off Joseph.

>>12653017
Haha I realized I missed it after posting.

>>12652894
Here is Constellation Labs in a nutshell. They are a well connected tech company supposedly building game changing technology in the heart of Silicon Valley. They know all the VCs and tech giants. Not a single one of them is buying their token. Whatever they are building, nobody believes in it except bagholding newfags who believed a team with no experience would change the world.

>>12653029
Haha it's funny to publish year old private email conversations to FUD. Kindly fuck off.

>>12653060
They are my emails, I am free to share them as I please.

I alleged the company is doing something unethical or is not doing a promised task, I should provide proof of my claims. I have no problem with any of the people at AMB, and I was not upset to not be included in their project. I am solely upset by the amount of people that come on this site and others and talk about how much Ambrosus is doing when it is objectively not true.

>>12653082
You are not part of the team, you have never been part of the team. You have no qualification to talk about their progress.

They rejected your application. Move on.

>>12650340
>>12650342
Because i shit in a toilet

AMB 1 USD TMR CONFIRMED.

>>12653082
you are a retard. after ambrosus goes big in europe they will expand to U.S.
You mightve been first to call for contracts before but now they will blackmail you. Retard amateur

>>12653134
First, I am no longer really doing work in the blockchain space as I said previously.

Second, why would a company that was not interested in expanding to the US when it was valued at $270,000,000 do so when valued at $7,000,000?

Third, why would the team of Ambrosus be browsing 4chan to blackmail me if they are running a highly motivated organization and making progress on cutting edge technology. Don't you think they would have better things to do than post on 4chan?

>>12653134
Yes, Joseph here blew it big time just to impress some kids on /biz/. Sad.

>>12653171
Scamsetti is definitely reading this thread. Shitposting is his fulltime job, since he doesnt have any real skills.

>>12653171
They are a startup, genius. They don't expand internationally without a working product even in their region.

In any case, they wouldn't have hired a smartass like you anyway after an thorough interview.

>>12653184
If that is the case then I would be gladly proven wrong. I am just speaking on my own experiences and my interactions with the company. I hold no animosity towards them and I hope they prove they are making progress.

>>12653203
You can believe as you wish. $270M USD would not be considered a startup to me. I went through two interviews with them.

>>12653184
I'm pretty sure he isn't posting anymore since the bearwolf viral campaign.

>>12653017
>>12653060
>>12653110
>>12653176
>>12653203
And here he is

>they have some electronics on a table
>therefore a token with absolutely no sensible value is valuable
sageru

>>12653223
And they didn't want you. Move on. Get a degree perhaps or at least some social skills.

>>12653171
Dude, you're a fucking moron. That $270mil market cap was with no working tech. Vechain was worth 9 fucking billion dollars, you absolute brainlet. Ripple was worth almost $150b. These valuations were entirely the consequence of massive and unsustainable speculative hype. If you are unironically this stupid, no wonder they didn't want to pursue any sort of professional relationship with you.

>>12653289
Okay, it is fine to think I am an idiot. The passion for the company is probably what will make it succeed in the end and I won't be a part of it so you can prove me wrong.

Again, I only wanted to point out something that I found borderline insulting about their IoT update.

>>12653013
Thanks for the offer but I do not pay for that kind of information.

>>12653332
No problem at all, sorry I couldn't be more help off the top of my head. I am not as in tune with many of the blockchain companies these days.

>>12653329
Ok can you point out that IOT update?

>>12653289
They realized in the interviews Joseph's expertise mostly lied in googling DIY IoT pdf files and were nice about rejecting his application. He's still emotionally shook about losing an opportunity of a lifetime and is blaming AMB for his lack of qualification. Just sad actually.

>>12650027
tf modules are from taobao cost cents dont beliv me
search humidity sensor, gps and active antenna in taobao

>>12653390
I’m lazy. Post pics here

>>12653358
It is the topic image of the thread.

If you can't find it on google here it is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSA6OlKu3Vo

>>12653379
Those documents are my own work, and I was an expert enterprise speaker at many blockchain conferences.

>>12653409
This nigga is based as fuck why are you even on /biz/?

>>12653409
I meant pics that it’s from taobao

>>12653409
Fair enough you know your stuff. I just don't understand why you are trying to FUD so hard when you have no real insider knowledge and just saw one project update.

>>12653502
Because the progress of the update compared to funding and hype makes no sense. People who are uninformed are investing or not holding blockchain companies accountable so I am informing them with my personal knowledge.

>>12653409
Show us your work besides an off the self IoT sensor reader, which by the way you didn't develop.

Also, it appears that you brought nothing new to the team because you lack actual experience and somehow think that following a pdf file to put together a lego IoT system makes you an expert.

>>12653519
Look man, I'm sorry they rejected your application and thankful you share your concerns with us. But the update just focused on a small area of AMB's product. It might be simple in your eyes but it is showing a working product. Show me one top 50 coin that does the same, especially in the supply chain sector.

>>12653649
I literally built a fully functional hyperledger based IoT device for supply chain tracking for a Fortune 500 company. No one is interested in this tech on an enterprise side at this time, and Ambrosus is not doing anything new.

>>12653649

LTO, not even in the top 100.
More like top 1000.

>>12653628
Those glasses automatically make him an expert though.

>>12653519
This dude is a hero

I mean I'm rather trusting Vlad Trifa and his ETH stars know what their doing than some mutt nobody who posts on /biz/.

>>12653502
>I just don't understand why you are trying to FUD so hard

>guy posts his experience talking to ambrosus and his insight and opinion on how it went and how they are progressing based on his years of experience in the field

>StOp FuDdInG ThIS CoiN

>>12653519
you need gassing for doxxing him. he's done nothing wrong. you dumb fucking amblets will never learn. fuck you and fuck angel versetti.

>>12653804

2nd part meant for >>12653693 and >>12653775

>>12653693
>>12653775

I am phone posting now. Handsome guy, I see you are members of the Ambrosus Telegram, which I joined with my real name so I could make sure my criticism of the IoT device was informed.

One of those images you took from my speaker profile at a conference.

The absolute state of Joseph.

>>12653804
>years of experience
He finished his bachelors in 2018.

>>12653897
Source?

>>12653904
facebook

>>12653904
This is Joseph phone posting, it is true. I graduated 2018, finished courses early in 2017 but had to wait. Not sure why it matters, lots of blockchain people are young and my work career started much earlier.

You can find me in LinkedIn and see my background if you want.

>>12653957
Nope it doesn’t matter .

You post here all you like

>>12653957
>smug /biz/ shitposter with bachelors degree from noname USA university knows better IoT than fucking ETH PhDs

Joseph pls

I've never seen FUD self destruct like that. Hilarious.

>>12654000
At least use my LinkedIn, I went to NYU.

>>12650027
what if the battery is empty?

>>12654072
Then replace it?

>>12654059
Great so you can go back there and get a real degree.

>>12654086
Please look at my LinkedIn, my degree is in mechanical engineering and nuclear physics.

>>12650027
Are those improved floppy disks?

You amb fags are some loosers. Seriously gas your self. You can’t even fucking take the opinion of a man who is more qualified than any of you faggots on the subject. Go back your gay ass telegram group and circle jerk eachother.

>>12654059
You realize the people working on AMB have DECADES of IoT experience?

>>12654164
So why did it take them a year to build a device that has the same functionality as demoed in the video as something myself and two others built in a week or two.

>>12654186
Based Joseph poster.

Between this IoT stuff that could could have been designed by a boy scout and the fucking zip ties to verify and track expensive vanilla beans that could have thought of by a 7 year old. You can see right through this scam

>>12654186
Where did it say it took them a year to build? Maybe the hard part was a solution that writes data to a decentralized blockchain.

>>12654132
Sorry I can't take you serious anymore after seeing those pics on facebook, manlet.

You have some serious mental issues which probably is the reason why you are still triggered after AMB judged you unqualified for a job. I feel bad Angel has to sit through losers like you.

>>12654186
https://youtu.be/SR8BzdyYZ64

FOAM just released this. Please give it a watch.

>>12654242
These guys are years behind, it's funny to watch actually.

>>12654237
Angels sees through loosers like him, yet continuously hires loosers who he has to fire after they can’t perform. Listen to wtf you just said anon.
SEETHING

>>12654227
Maybe they took a break from when I emailed to when they started work on sensors, that is possible. Since none of you seem to believe me here is a demonstration on my website we developed a decentralized blockchain based on IBM Sawtooth lake, this is an opensource (read, decentralized and not monitored by IBM) platform for record keeping. This took us about a week and a half of full time work to build, two developers. It is not polished, but it is meant for enterprise and is just a demo.

https://riaforce.com/blog/riaforce-develops-supply-chain-management-software-for-lockheed-martin.html

>>12654237
You are referencing the picture on my facebook where I am standing with one of my tall friends after winning an innovation competition based on IoT sensors for again enterprise use cases, gunshots in office buildings. I am 5'9" which is short sure, or at least not tall.

>>12654284
I wasn't asking you, Rakesh. Ambrosus shills can go right back to their designated shitting street.

>>12654317
>You are referencing the picture on my facebook where I am standing with one of my tall friends after winning an innovation competition based on IoT sensors for again enterprise use cases
Amblets, once again, BTFO

>>12654375
This guy Joseph is based as fuck real talk.
BROSEF

>>12654242
I do not know enough of the terminology in this video to be of much help.

It is a very dense presentation, if you are a team member I would recommend changing to a more easily understood presentation format.

For enterprise technology at least, half of the battle is having management and clients understand what you are doing. Frankly, often the more simple solutions are better. People can free to call me an idiot for having that opinion, but I have always followed the keep it simple but make it have a business impact method.

Again, sorry I can't help much more than that.

>>12654375
What if ambnet opens up, business is revealed and it shows profitable business. IF that were to happen. what would happen with amb

>>12654317
You should apply at Ambrosus. They just need the world renowned IoT expert and bachelor degree holder Joseph Paul Nardone.

>>12654399
This is Joseph, then I will be proven wrong, and the use-case of supply chain verification will make my products better. Perhaps they will also do some of the other proposed use-cases like insurance, etc.

If they produce a viable and impactful business application then they will improve the consumer experience overall.

I'm not rooting for them to fail simply pointing out something ridiculous based on the funding.

>>12654335
What was the point of posting that video then? "We are deploying on tendermint..." in the trash it goes.

>>12654317
Somehow in your logic, what is good for IBM and other enterprises is not good for Ambrosus?

Do you have patents to any of these sensors? I'm going with a no on that one.

>>12654392
Listen to this expert's advice. Did you know that he holds a bachelor's degree since 2018? When Joseph Paul Nardone speaks, the world listens.

>>12654440
I am not sure what you are asking, could you clarify?

My example of the platform was because someone presented the reason for it taking so long was because there was a decentralized aspect, when my experience was in a centralized aspect. I posted my documentation showing that decentralized is not much more complicated than the centralized versions. By no means do I like IBM or would I say IBM is a good blockchain provider, however, they are a blockchain provider widely accepted by enterprise companies.

Does that answer what you are asking? If not could you clarify, sorry.

>>12654444
I didn't know we were talking to THE Joesph Paul Nardone, this changes everything

>>12654428
tf why did you start with This is Joseph? weird ass nigga

>>12654469
Honestly he should apply at Ambrosus. Angel needs experts like him.

repacking off the shelf module as their own

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Ublox-NEO-6M-GPS-Module-with-EEPROM-for-MWC-AeroQuad-with-Antenna-for-Flight-Control-GY/32655856502.html?spm=2114.search0302.3.276.7bad3377t7J4ev&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_0_10130_453_454_10618_536_10890_317_537_319_10059_10696_10084_10083_10547_10546_10887_10307_321_10548_322_10902_10065_10068_10103_10884_10545,searchweb201603_0,ppcSwitch_0&algo_pvid=4673dedb-792a-4dd3-ba4f-fa134ac663a5&algo_expid=4673dedb-792a-4dd3-ba4f-fa134ac663a5-34

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/uhf-rfid-reader-module-with-RF-chip-PR9200-optional/32573423210.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.83.3b367ef7v6rg4w&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_2_10065_10130_10068_10890_10547_319_10546_317_10548_10545_10696_453_10084_454_10083_10618_10307_537_536_10902_10059_10884_10887_321_322_10103,searchweb201603_56,ppcSwitch_0&algo_expid=2744b5be-886d-4b25-9e84-a36b396e9f71-12&algo_pvid=2744b5be-886d-4b25-9e84-a36b396e9f71&transAbTest=ae803_5

>>12654392
I am in no way affiliated with this project. It is really only useful for developers right now. They have normie friendly material out though- https://youtu.be/EJeMVh4tm1w
>>12654440
I am interested in what this guy had to say.

>>12654537
Fucking hilarious.

His name was Joseph.

>>12654537
Big yikes

>>12654537
Fucking wow. Caught red handled. Where are the circle jerk tg people at now?

>>12654560
This is more easily understood thank you, what makes this any different from a cellphone GPS tracker for fleet management, or from a bluetooth meshnet that uses a walking algorithm?

If the answer is "That it is a blockchain" I don't think this is a good project.

>>12654537
wtf

>>12654611
>>12654621
Imagine being one of the autistic street shitters who attacked this Joseph guy when he was even polite enough to not call a spade a spade and simply out this blatant gypsy scam for what it is.

>>12654537
Fake news

>>12654633
GPS consumes significant battery life to the point where it is unsuitable for many IoT applications. It is also subject to spoofing in ways that a dynamic proof of location would be harder to forge. More discussed here: https://blog.foam.space/introduction-to-proof-of-location-6b4c77928022

As far as bluetooth is concerned I am not entirely sure what benefits this has, but their goal is to get people using this protocol, not to sell hardware. They have developed a Token Curated map built over Open Street Maps as well as a spatial coordinate standard that can be used in any EVM smart contract.

>>12654738
>LPWAN can offer the low power and longer battery life of bluetooth with the range of cellular. The trade-off is low throughput for high-capacity networks suitable for scaling. Another benefit of low power transmission is the access it allows to the unlicensed radio spectrum. LPWAN radios can operate on free radio waves without needing a license to offer coverage. Deploying a LPWAN, just like a blockchain, is permissionless.

cant make this shit up
shoo shoo poo poo

>>12654738
Okay the battery life is an okay concern, but again if little bluetooth beacons exist and have major documentation for their methods what is the benefit to using this?

I guess what I am asking at it's core is what specific use case would this be superior to like a few bluetooth devices in a store that track customer location, which is done all the time. Or just using cameras to track customer location via computer vision. I am not sure I see the benefit of why this needs to be blockchain based. Basically everyone, even in the developing world has a cellphone, so why wouldn't that be the go to hardware/infrastructure for any company looking to do IoT based tracking.

There was a lot of work being done in this when I lived in SF, here is a document:

https://techcrunch.com/2017/09/18/bridgefy-lets-developers-build-mesh-networking-into-their-apps/

This was my friend's company, it went out of business because enterprise didn't adopt, but the experience was worth it because they got good jobs doing similar stuff for bigger companies.

This might not look like the exact same thing you are talking about, but in principle it is working the same way right? Like instead of location pings, Bridgefy is sending messages between phones via consensus.

>>12654780
what am i looking at here

>>12654780

>>12654633
They are also working closely with similar projects that may eventually use compatible hardware(Althea Mesh and Flyingcarpet)

>>12654795
a very needful scam sirs, now do the needful

>>12654798
>>12654780
Holy fucking shit I'm pissed at myself for buying into this for so long. Why is Vlad Trifa still with these people? This is some bullshit

>>12654780
>>12654798
>b-but muh vlad i-invented the microchip, r-right?

>>12654792
GoTenna seems to have one-upped your friend's startup. They have even launched a line of military grade hardware
https://gotennapro.com

>>12654888
That is absolutely correct actually, I told them I saw a company at NYU that did something really similar but for the government. They tried to go for more civilian applications I believe. They sold their patent either way I think so I wouldn't say they got beat.

>>12650027
Not sure what Ambrosus is but it looks like you got scammed. Sorry anon

>>12654792
Hi Joe, I don't know how much experience you have on 4chan, but I'd like to say that you're input is fucking awesome and you've got serious balls letting these people post your face and admitting that it's you. I've seen plenty of people get fucked over the years.

In all likelihood, the guy insulting is either some third world savage, an AMB team member paid to monitor these boards, or someone who was stupid enough to get sucked in by their shilling.

Keep doing your thing my man.

>>12654939
It's literally Scamsetti himself

>>12654798
ROFL ambniggers btfo

>>12654237
HAHaHAHAHAHAHAHAHA AMB just got BTFO’d

Eat a fucking dick. For once an anon actually isnt talking shit and exposed AMB for the scam it is.

One of the best threds in biz to date

>>12654921

>>12654903
Nice, glad to hear that they were able to taste the fruits of their labor. GoTenna is really cool though you can even use it to propagate bitcoin transactions until it hits a node with internet access.

>>12654939
Thanks, I hope no one felt I was being mean to them. I knew people would criticize me for being young and for Ambrosus not wanting assistance, but I wouldn't call my critics a savage.

Many people invest in things and like the thought of losing what you had at one point is very difficult to overcome. Does this make sense what I am saying? Like I have made many bad investments, and it is really hard to accept that sometimes you have to recognize you made a mistake or were tricked.

Overall I wouldn't call someone a savage because imagine if you lived in a really bad country and you had dreams of making a few hundred dollars, it is easy to see why someone like that would freak out at me.

Again, there is also a chance that I am just uninformed and there will be a massive "disclose the partnerships" moment and I will get BTFO'd but most of my experience tells me that in business that doesn't happen, and enterprise adoption is slow or doesn't adopt at all.

As for my face it is okay, I am on lots of sites, however I hate this picture >>12654604 and when I took it I was like damn someone will make fun of me for that in the future lol.


>>12654983
Yeah GoTenna is really cool, it was first to the marketplace and had a good immediate use case, soldiers without radio contact so they could reduce to one sat phone and just use other "nodes" or whatever they call them. Very smart and seems obvious, but their genius is they thought it up and built it first. Only obvious after reading about it.

>>12655028
Not my fault you're so ugly. Keep the FUD going. Blame everything tthats wrong with your life on AMB.

>>12655028
thank you for taking the time to argue with the shills man, I appreciate your effort.

seems like a lot of these scams are getting exposed now
first DAG now this shit.

>>12655254
streetshitter

Based brosef and the persons who found the Alibaba link are unironically the modern day investigators reportors.
EXPOSED

>>12655274
>>12655288
Newsflash, chips are made in China. But I won't argue with organized FUD anymore.

>>12655316
Yeah honestly the chips being made in China is not a big deal, in the picture I posted of the IoT device that my team built it uses the same components. I was just arguing that it is not a new technology even in the fact that it uses blockchain. I feel this was misunderstood, people have built blockchain IoT devices like this more than a year ago.

>>12655330
Imagine orchestrating FUD because someone rejected your application 1 year ago.

>>12655288
i mean those are the very first things that appear on aliexpress when i searched the related key words they are not even trying that hard

>>12655254
its not fud faggot they could have at the very least did their own board, fabricated and removed the chinese labels not just bought off the shelf and pass it as their own design they have 32M itll take them at most 5k usd to hire some chink on freelancer and have the board fabricated and assembled

>>12655350
Oh, I did not even realize it was you I was defending. Yes I am the mastermind behind the FUD, all of these posters are actually me from different Duckduckgo windows.

>>12655350
>Imagine the "CEO" of a "company" making official company shitposts on 4chan

>>12655363
You are just sad, Joseph. Honestly I would also be if I was that ugly.

>>12655330
You're too polite to this autistic pajeet which I respect but he definitely doesn't deserve it. Good job keeping your cool.

>>12655380
Good job responding to yourself you freak. I'm out of this shitshow.

>>12655380
My message is a criticism of the project, did you see how much proof and detail I had to give in order to even get people to believe me?

If I freaked out that would just be another reason to discredit my opinion.

>>12655395
I've been having a discussion with this dude for the past few hours you fucking sperglord. Jesus Christ this level of delusion.

Some one can make a brand new Iphone just buying the parts from the Chinese electronic market, does that means Apple is shit?

>>12655559
>this

>>12655559
If it took apple a year to make a very simple phone, then yes.

>>12655402
Keep up the good work Joseph. Look at this way: you dodged a bullet and didn't get mired down with a scammy toblerone tracker project. Your intelligence, insight and professionalism will take you far in this world.

>>12651648
>These are just off the shelf RF modules.
>The patch antennas shown are for passive GHz range reception of GPS and other low gain satellite communications.
>These are not RFID compatibile (even with an external energizing transmitter).

Thought this was a good post and that anons should see it again.

Omfg I can’t believe this. The Amb”sensors” have the exact Chinese characters on them if you look close rnough

Lying conniving versetti lured Ambrosus investors in with list of NDAs with huge companies
Lying conniving versetti implied partnership announcements in Q1 after NDA expiration
Lying conniving versetti said partnerships with billion-euro companies would be revealed after Berlin meetup (never happened)
>https://youtu.be/0mBQJxrffyU?t=750 [Embed]
Lying conniving versetti saw market crash and started to spread this bullshit narrative of running a "proper, anti-hype" company
Lying conniving versetti lied about maintaining relationships with all these big companies under NDA (NDAs don't mean anything, just having a meeting requires one to sign an NDA)
Lying conniving versetti lied about expecting 1 million bundles daily if 20-30% of companies under NDA sign up to use AMB-NET
Lying conniving versetti spit on investors and said they have no rights to complain after funding $30 million
Lying conniving versetti coordinated pump and dumps on biz with failed grassroots marketing like swissbro hedge fund manager, kimchiwhale, mrbearwolf
Lying conniving versetti hid mainnet explorer to prevent people from seeing low/zero bundle numbers and keep them bagholding
Lying conniving versetti hid mainnet explorer to dump team/adviser tokens
>Proof: Oliver Bussman is no longer an adviser, he cashed out and left
Lying conniving versetti is spreading narrative of "long-term future" so people won't be shocked by shitty bundle numbers
LYING CONNIVING VERSETTI LIES ABOUT 30 PARTNERSHIPS SECURED (SCAMMERS ALWAYS GO BOLD RIGHT BEFORE EXIT TO DELUDE BAGHOLDERS ONE LAST TIME)

Amblets it's time to wake up. Versetti is a sly, conniving little liar who made sure to keep you bagholding with hopes of NDAs soon and paid larpers like swissbro, kimchiwhale, and mrbearwolf. If you have any pride left, you will demand Angel versetti (Kate) explain himself and make these scammers PAY

>>12656276
Can you please stop. I don’t know what to think anymore

>>12656343
join us

>>12656276
thanks for posting this. protip: remove "[Embed]" after you copy/paste.
>>12656343
read it and weep amblet.

resdex

>>12652781
HELLO RADO

Anyone gonna call cops on these guys?

>>12656636
What do you need cops for?

>>12652523
wtf is this shit, nigga?
youre babbling about hyperledgers and enterprise companies. this is just an off the shelf arduino uno (at least go for nano or micro next time), off the shelf dht22 sensor and arduino ide (lmoa) with someone elses libs.
this didnt take you 45h, this is at most 1h of work.
fuck me biz is fucking retarded, no wonder scams are getting millions for nothing.

OP thanks so much. I'm not invested in AMB anymore but there were warning signs on this project that a lot of people were concerned about. You probably saved at least some one person here a lot of money with this post.

Shitty coin and the defenders going out of their bodies at to dox people and cry about MUH FUD is only proof of that. OriginTrail is my main bet for supply chain now

>>12654537
lulz

>>12650027
1. buy stock components
2. Add shitcoin logo
3. Take picture

Retards go apeshit

>>12650027
I have a Raspberry Pi Zero and an RFID Scanner with some tags. Should I do an ICO? I think I can build a simple frontend and tokenize items until Sunday. Who would invest?

>>12657793
Depends, do you have a cool logo? Make a draft in paint and let me see.

>>12651088
tdlr you fucked

>>12655878
>>12654921

SELL SELL SELL THIS IS NOT A DRILL

>>12654838
Lmao Vlad isn't with them anymore bro

Evrything moved on and chose OriginTrail as their solution (something amblets won't tell you)

>>12654798
sminemgang module 1.0 u aaint g-got no shit on u-us nigger

>>12658335
damn now you just need an oracle to connect that shit to a blockchain nigga u ambnet right there

dude the mods in the tg are controlling damage by saying this is i"coordinated fud"

im already banned from tg someone else go spread the news via pm to all the ppl in amb tg
dont announce in main chat, pm them this thread
or this one >>12654921

>>12658335
where do i buy this futuristic sensor? iv already checked ebay and ALIBABA HAHAHAHA

Amb is a meme. Vlad Trifa funds Evrythng and they use OT... AMBlets eternally btfoed.
Just call em as I see em and this is a cashgrab.

>>12658369
Ambrosus contracted China to manufacture those idiot

>>12658696
prove these chinese contracts now faggot

>>12658708
It’s under nda to keep competitiveness or under a smart contract

>>12658696
Well at least they could have... u knw changed d labels from chinis to amb innobulshit labs

>>12658725
How is it bullshit tho?

>>12656782
That's my point, what I show in that image and all code/documentation for enterprise use took 45 hours to make.

I am not saying my work is superior to Ambrosus, I am just saying their work should not have taken so long or cost so much.

>>12658964
Well Joseph. You are a star now... you got banned from tg with all your comments

>>12658964
And I don’t say that as criticism. That took big balls and now that everyone saw Aliexpress...

>>12650027
someone call interpol

>>12658964
thank you for speaking out Joe, we will take it from here good man

>>12658717
con·ven·ientDictionary result for convenient
/kənˈvēnyənt/Submit
adjective
fitting in well with a person's needs, activities, and plans.
"I phoned your office to confirm that this date is convenient"
synonyms: suitable, appropriate, fitting, fit, suited, agreeable; More
involving little trouble or effort.

amb, deepbrainchain, bittorrent, rate3, lto, lin, irl, req... biz is dead

>>12659063
To be clear I did not find the components on alexipress, nor do I even think that is an issue. The issue is the timeframe and funding it took to reach that level of prototype.

I don't see why they would delete my comments in telegram, I was talking quite nicely with a few of their members Connor and Blastsomething. They just did not agree with what I was saying, so I thought it was best I leave their channel. I don't want people to believe that Ambrosus banned me, because they did not. But I am surprised they deleted my comments.

>>12659105
So let me just ask. Why is your angle here, why speak out when you have nothing to lose or gain since you don’t hold amb?

>>12659105
deleting comments is worse than banning, it means banning was next if you protested their comment deletion , it means they wanted to see how much they could play you before reaction

>>12659105
They are banning people all over TG now. This is bigger than people realize because AMB was a small community to start with. There are probably only like 30 members and the admins are in full damage control mode.

>>12659138
>12659138
west coast isnt up for another 2 hours
this is just getting started, telegram has no authority over anything outside of telegram

our methodical approach on reddit will give mods no reason to ban or remove content

>>12659116
My angle is that I was tricked by them into believing they were making major progress.

This alone wouldn't have made me post, but I see so many companies with clearly third world people supporting them but what people don't realize is that often these people from poverty tier countries spent their money to buy the coins. It is very upsetting to me. Some other company I helped previously is also clearly hyping everything they do to keep their small group of followers talking about how great it was. That company lost 98% of it's coin value, but still people from Venezuela and India hold onto the coin.

I don't want to say deceive but it is wrong to hype your product to make people think there is some grand secret announcement. If you are given others money that is precious and you should really try to at least spend it making something moderately impressive.

>>12659168

https://www.crayonic.com/ambrosus-smart-sensors

>>12659176
So you’re upset that Ambrosus is “lying by ommission”? That they didn’t disclose where they got the sensors or if they made it themselves from despite having “InnovationLab” plastered all over the video?

>>12659266
>Buying sensors from aliexpress
>Innovation

CHOOSE ONE AND ONLY ONE

>>12659266
No, it would insult me if for instance I gave my little cousin $500 to build a fort and when I went into the backyard 5 months later there was a cardboard box. On top of that they said "Isn't it great!" Sure it is a fort, but it does not reflect the time or capital invested.

Those sensors just are not impressive to me, but they were being shilled as if I should be impressed.

>>12659266
No, I am upset that this sensor is being talked about I'm high regards by people who don't understand what it is.

It would be like giving a child $500 and 5 months to build a fort, and then you check on it and there's a cardboard box on the ground. The result does not reflect the time and capital put in.

>>12659289
Ah I respect your viewpoint. If I recall on the YouTube comments on the video someone said “very impressive”

>>12659289
>>12659300

Sorry I double posted because I'm phone posting.

>>12659309
I can agree with some points and disagree with some but all I can say is mad respect for putting your name on the line and taking criticism knowing that people will scrutinize your personal life and your degrees to tear you apart

I found that in AliExpress in 30 secs wasn't sure it was d same module bcoz u blurred d image with Chinese labels on it and then an anon found verified it was correct after seeing it in ur own YouTube channel fren there is nothing wrong with buying think shit but passing it/ implying that it was ur own innovation is outright wrong and pajeet tier

Token Sale ended
22 OCTOBER 2017
$32,500,000
OF
$97,800,000 (33%)

https://icodrops.com/ambrosus/

18 MONTHS, 32 MILLION DOLLARS, AND 2 ALIBABA PARTS LATER LMFAOOOOOO

>>12654537

Lel, will they ever recover?

>>12659399

You summed up most ICOs.

Millions thrown away on incompetent software pajeets and beta nu-males who had no idea how to run a business, finish a product or secure a single purchase order.

Crypto destroyed billions of dollars of capital.

holy fuck is this real

>>12659839
Looks like the new Ambrosus narrative is that they were just demo’ing the sensors available in the market.

This is what happens you aren’t transparent. They never said anything when people were supposedly praising what they put in that table

Ok my question is why not tell everyone” hey guys we have Chinese sensors here”

Lack of transparent communication kills everything

>>12660138
Because that was never true

They waited until all of the logical questionsx thoughts and comments were erradicated before initiating unbelievable damage control

They are digging themseleves deeper by the second

>>12650027
wtf its just a wifi chip connected to an amd processor ayy lmao

>>12660175
Yea not cool deleting comments. You destroy people with facts, not with silence. What they did to remove Joseph’s comments was just absurd

it already rusting out at room temp
fugg this. back to the linky

>>12654242
He literally says "you could do this at home". Seems to be an extremely over-engineered solution when you can use the in-built 2.4ghz antennas which are common in phones for literally the same purpose and even push it to a blockchain all in a single software app.

>>12654392
i was honestly on your side until this comment, buddy, this presentation was simpler than half of the senior engineering projects at my state school last year.

>>12660604
That's fine, I stated a few times that I wasn't as up to date anymore, I was just being nice and taking a quick look at someone because someone asked.

You don't have to be on my side, I was just presenting my opinion and the reasons for my opinion in regards to the IoT innovation lab video.

>>12660604


>>12660604
This is actually just a demostration of connecting amb-net to (any) sensor.
They have developed their patented Sensor which didnt shown in this video, which shown to the community few weeks ago

>>12660653
That is good they are doing something then, does not change my opinion based on what I have seen. I am not here to convince anyone just stating my opinion and my reason for having an opinion on this topic. You can read my numerous other posts if you doubt my credibility, motivation, or argument.

r they claiming to design L1? unless they own crayonics they just bought it from them and labeled as amb product

>>12660742
Vlad is avoiding answering that question

>>12660752
Russian scammer

>>12660752
because he cant, its all smoke and mirrors

>>12660742
Can you read?

“Amber L1 and L2 devices useCrayonic IdentityCoremodule in combination with custom Ambrosusbusiness logic developed in partnership with Ambrosus for collecting data from certified sensors while triggering events in the style of a blockchain oracle.”

>>12660830
means the hitech stuff and patents is owned by cryanics not amb

>>12661035
Exactly. Scam

this the hitech patented stuff AMB is bragging about turns out they didnt make it themselves they are just a CASE STUDY of crayonics which owns the patent and tech
just like they bought from aliexpress and put it on top of their logo to imply its their "tech"

>>12661258
I thought there was simply a manufacturing partnership between the two, where did AMB say they patented this device?

But Kate said Ambrosus is above using Chinese made sensors???

>>12661308
Amb claims 2 completed patents for their IoT tech and more filed
>whoops

>>12661319
Holykek. This keeps getting better and better

>>12660742
https://blog.ambrosus.com/an-overview-of-the-ambrosus-innovation-laboratory-innolab-72d4f60394be

Read this post thoroughly.

>>12661319
pm as many inactive members in that telegram this thread
#justiceforjoseph

>>12661329
But where is the specific claim that they patented the sensor in question? The entire basis of everyone's concern here is that the sensor isn't patented by AMB but I can't find the evidence for them ever saying it was in the first place which makes these concerns hot air. They announced a manufacturing partnership with crayonic and crayonic is manufacturing sensors for them, where is the shadiness in this? That they aren't manufacturing their own sensors? Why would a startup make their own manufacturing factory when they can partner with another company to do it for them?

>>12661357
10 staff members since October 2018, and this is what they showcase? This supports my original point.

>>12661381
See the 7 posts above where Kate said they are above vechain using Chinese sensors

>>12661361
>pm as many inactive members in that telegram this thread

THEY'RE LITERALLY ALL BOTS LOL. ONLY 10 PEOPLE TALK IN THERE.

>>12661381

FUCK OFF BAESHOOR YOU SMELLY RANJEET

>>12661381
Ok you fuckin asshole. Can you stop luring more poor anons in your fuckin fraud.
>what is the problem
The problem is that we have seen pictures of cheap ass aliexpress boards sold of as the invention of some non existent "lab". I hope you have huge bags of AMB bro.

>>12661407
That doesn't answer anything in my post, it's completely unrelated...

>>12661381
Nobody? Why all the concern in the first place then?

>>12661466
Bump again, 260 replies and nobody even has any evidence for the initial concern?

>>12661601
The concern is that Ambrosus made it seem like they are creating everything or contracting it to crayonics. But turns out they bought Chinese made stuff and lying by omission

>>12661466
>>12661601
The "original concern" is what the fuck have they been doing with all that time and money? They have literally a week of work to show after an entire year. WHAT HAVE THEY BEEN DOING

>>12661601
The initial concern is related to how long and how much capital it took to develop their IoT showcase video which I linked to.

My argument literally had nothing to do with Chinese parts, but now you are just focusing on that because you can't refute the points I brought up when discussing my opinion.

>>12661630
I didn't realize the showcase consisted of the entirety of their product, I thought it was just a part of the whole. If what you say is the case then how come there is a completely different sensor on the crayonic website that was not showcased in the video? Wouldn't it stand to reason that there is more than what was shown in the video, I just don't understand how you guys came to the conclusion that what was shown in the video was the entirety of their efforts in the innolab.

>>12661629
>30-50 days of shipping from shenzen
Not a week of work dude

>>12650027
Why did they tape the floor?

>>12661694
Because crayonics will sue them for presenting it as their own. It is intellectual property you know

But hey let’s take this chinese part that hopefully no one knows about and take credit for it

>>12661694
The burden of proof is on you to show they have more sensors that work. I stated that the sensor demonstrated is not impressive at all, and that I felt it could have been built and had the software designed in a few weeks.

If you want to say they have some ace in the hole mega sensor system that is super cutting edge you can say it, but until I see a demonstration I am entitled to my opinion.

What information do you have besides a website showing a small image of a box/pill shaped thing that there is a unique and game changing sensor? What evidence do you have that that video is not the entire effort of the innolab?

>>12661722
thats the plywood they stole from construction next door down, its not the floor its some presentation board and it looks like utter shit, they have ruined themselves

#justiceforjoseph
He survived being doxxed

>>12661737

Joseph. post an ETH address so we can donate to you, you utter mad lad.

>>12661390
God, you folks are such imbecilic brainlets. Let me break it down for you.
1. The sensor tech video was intended to demonstrate how the base level of technology works to the community, as there are many community members who don't have IoT backgrounds.
2. The aliexpress links are ridiculous. The first one is a GPS that includes "antenna for flight control." If anyone can tell me how that relates to the project in any way I'll give them 4 amb. The second is for a generic RFID module and chip, which look generally uniform across the board because they serve literally the same function. If you need the specific functionality of RFID you use an RFID chip. Not that difficult to understand.There is nothing to confirm where the module shown in the AMB video is sourced from, or that it is what is shown on aliexpress.
3. AMB-NET has been created to communicate and connect with a variety of sensors depending on what corporate customers require. This is only logical, as different entities and products have different needs so far as tracking, storage conditions, security, etc.
4. Crayonic is an industrial partner of Ambrosus. Given that the Ambrosus logo is featured on the sensor on the crayon homepage, it is patently absurd to assume that Ambrosus had no hand in the creation and implementation of tech in the L1. The Oct. 5 blogpost makes this pretty clear.
5. The only information we have is what has been shared. No one has any idea what other work the Innovation Lab has been focusing on besides what has been relayed in a couple updates. Everything that the Ambrosus team has relayed has been their choice to share. It is foolish to assume that there s zero information that they haven't spoon-fed to the community.
6. If you don't realize that there's been a coordinated fudding campaign against this project for well over 6 months, largely through spam posts and constant reverse-shills, you haven't been paying attention.

>>12661777
So why would the team not disclose they are using Chinese made products after Kate bashed them? It manipulates people into thinking that they are using parts from non chinese makers

You do know this is fraud right?

>>12661764
That is okay, I do not even have an ETH address anymore. As I said I became very upset with how crypto companies were being run.

However, just make sure you mention me if you know anyone building AI or enterprise software. I would appreciate any new clients that might want assistance.

Anyway, my lunchbreak is almost over, I'll read more of this thread later.

>>12661777
no one is coordinating fud, we do not want to buy this scam, we simply want scams to be brought to light, nothing more

>>12661808
drop an email when you can i know someone who you might be interested in working with,

>>12661777
Nice blog entry you faggot waster of trips.

>>12661843
I posted my website in an above post, I am not going to again. My email is listed there. Thanks!

>>12661808
>enterprise software

dude, email your CV to Careers@SmartContract.com

>>12661725
Crayonic has those sensors on their own website, are you implying they should sue themselves?

>>12661737
I don't work at Ambrosus so the burden of proof is out of my control there, although claming the crayonic sensor is just a fake picture is pretty high conjecture. It is pure speculation whether that is the conclusion of all their efforts or just a piece of the pie. The only way to prove it is for AMB themselves to demonstrate more than that, but I wouldn't expect them to do that just to appease a bunch of anonymous strangers on /biz/.

As long as you admit it's just speculation then I guess your concerns are understandable, but others here are taking them as fact when you have no facts to back this up unless you work in the innolab. Also, considering they are a startup it stands to reason they wouldn't showcase everything in order to maintain competitive advantage, but you being a seasoned businessman surely understand this and just choose to ignore its legitimacy as a reason for my argument.

>>12661803
You act like it is not possible for there to be a similar version of a product that exists on aliexpress somewhere else. That's the whole point of aliexpress - getting a comparable but cheaper version of something. Incorporating technologies that may appear in some form of product on websellers is nowhere near the same thing as buying that product and using it exclusively. Are you unironically that dense? Furthermore, equating the bashing of Vechain and Walton's tech approaches with bashing all Chinese-made products is a childish generalization.

>>12661893
Maybe you need to take a closer look. THERE ARE DAMN CHINESE CHARACTERS EMBEDDED ON IT

>>12661911
You missed the part where he said you're generalizing Kate's comment.

>>12661940
You should start a professional dodgeball tournament. You would win because you are good at dodging

>>12661957
You mean exactly what you're doing? How is what you're saying not a gross over-generalization? I'm sure you'll just dodge this one lol

>>12661957
Tell me, are iPhone components made in China? Now, does that make the iPhone a Chinese product? Does where an RFID chip is produced somehow affect the functionality of that chip? Is it possible for technologies to be created in one place and for their manufacturing to be outsourced somewhere else?

Furthermore, among other things you conveniently ignore that what was featured in the video was just a sensor demo to the community, that it is just one form of sensor, that it is not Ambrosus's proprietary sensor, and that AMB-NET has specifically been created to communicate with a wide variety of sensor technologies depending on the needs of its' customers. But keep trying.

>>12662063
>>12662099
You desnee motherfuckers. The issue is that Ambrosus is saying one thing on one hand but doing a completely different on the other hand.

Idgaf it it’s china or Europe or Russia . If the team says they are not using Chinese made sensor but you ended up seeing it on a demo then wtf am I supposed to conclude from that?

>>12662154
>then wtf am I supposed to conclude from that?
inconsistency/dishonesty = SCAMBROSUS

>>12662154
Chinese-made sensor = RFID chip from China included in a demo sensor that isn't even their proprietary technology? Lol. I love you pay no attention to anything that undermines the weak points you're promulgating.

The team never said that out of a variety of customer-dependent sensor-technologies they might use to communicate to AMB-NET, absolutely zero components will be of Chinese origin. That is unequivocally false, and would be an unrealistic, counterproductive claim to make if it meant reinventing or paying more money for basic ingredients. If I want to make spaghetti, I don't grow the tomatoes for the marinara myself lol.

>>12662266
Kate just said so or are you ignoring that?

>>12662273
Post the image where she says, specifically and in clear detail, that no aspect or component of any sensor or any other technology to be used in concordance with Amb-net will be of Chinese manufacture (key word - manufacture).

I know it doesn't exist, but I'm interested to see what you come up with. Probably just the message that bashes vet and wtc and says AMB has proprietary sensors, a fact which I already conveniently sourced and explained for you.

>>12662365

>>12662397 >>12662365

HAHAHAHAHA, yep. Called it. For someone who's clearly doing this intentionally, you're a pretty shit lackey doing a relatively awful job.

>>12662460
Then tell Kate to stop manipulating investors into thinking Ambrosus has high tech sensors

He was banned because he was making broad assumptions based on no factual information, and because his tone was entirely accusatory. If you want information from someone, you say, "hey I see this and it raises some questions, can you explain what is going on?" Not "hey, I see this and it raises some questions, therefore you must be trying to scam us all." That's like walking into a McDonalds and saying "why don't you post all your ingredients on the menu, you must be trying to poison me!" And then immediately running outside to the sidewalk and screaming "McDonalds is trying to poison me!" before anyone even answers you. Just stupid logic.

Plus he picked some trivial detail about a sensor and used it to make all these ridiculous accusations about the company that had literally zero to do with sensors. And again, only people who choose to believe 4Chan garbage are influenced by this. Anyone who clearly understands the facts thought Joseph was out of line. After he was banned, Vlad popped on and gave a perfectly reasonable explanation about all the sensor nonsense. If you choose not to believe it, or you don't understand it, I don't know what to tell you. No one gets banned for asking reasonable questions. We actually have very healthy debate in that forum where a lot of clear information is disseminated. If Joseph or you or anyone else wants the real truth, simply ask a question. Don't start by automatically assuming Ambrosus (or anyone else) is out to scam you. If Ambrosus was really scamming people, they are the worst scammers ever. They wait until their token price is rock bottom and they've spent the entire past year spending tons of money to develop all this cutting edge technology only to then cut and run? Because that makes all the sense in the world. Listen to what you are saying.

>>12662949
Nobody cares what you have to say angel. You been exposed.

>>12662365
>>12662397
That image clearly shows they claim not to be using cheap off the shelf chink shit, when this thread proves they are.
IDK how you think it validates your point. Looks to me like you're left with a face full of coconut pie

>>12662949
Hi, this is Joseph. You did not ban me from the chat, I left after some of your community said that we reached a disagreement.

I will retract my statements specifically regarding the IoT sensor demonstration video I previously posted if you can provide proof there is a more complex sensor prototype, or can show a use-case in which this sensor system is actually being used to track goods.

I don't think my claim is based on no factual information, I was only discussing my opinion on a single video. I never said anything accusatory other than asking why this was all the innovation lab had to show after a year of development and 30M in funding.

What trivial detail did I pick? The hardware as well as the data visualization platform looked primitive and like a very rough prototype, not something that would be produced by a "10 person full time staff" as stated in your company's blog posts.

>>12663016
i should have clarified that was not my post, that was a response to asking why joseph was banned from tg, this convo is happening in my reddit inbox, i just copypasted your latest post in reply lets see what he says

>>12663016
Baist bro-seph is the real deal
Mah nigga
>amb is such a mess they can’t even exit scam properly

>>12663016
i just got black listed from reddit i believe

>>12663198
I don’t get it. If they are so legit, why is this bothering so much. They should be busy onboarding working on the bridge ect. The fact that they are so triggered tells me everything I need to know

>>12663198
I am sorry if that happened as a result of you sending my post, but I did not tell you or encourage you to send it. I assumed that your original post was from someone at Ambrosus, my apologies if you lost your account. I am not sure how reddit works.

Mfw people are still wasting their lives beating this dead horse.

>>12663278
false alarm maybe, i did have weird screens tho such as a plain white one with plain roman txt that said service unavailable thats it, and then this one
dont be sorry i hate leddit

>>12663016
Ugh, I am growing tired of this. Is this really Joseph after all this time? What are you doing going on Reddit and messaging people to stay away from Ambrosus? This is so stupid. Are you really just trying to prevent people from losing their money? I feel like there is more to it than that. Why would anyone waste their time doing something like this?

Look, I don't know if you were banned or not, I'm not an admin. I saw most of your earlier posts from Sunday, but I was asleep when all the stuff went down last night and by the time I caught up most of it had been deleted.

My point is, neither one of us have proof about the sensors one way or another. The difference being I trust Ambrosus because they have never given me a reason not to. If they say what their sensors are doing, my first reaction is to believe them. Not to go on 4Chan and spread FUD. You don't have any proof that what they are saying is a lie any more than I have proof that it's the truth. Neither one of us work there.

LMAO this nigga typed a novel

>>12663430
You seem like an intelligent person. I don't know how you can be so down on them. Have you followed them for the past year? I follow a lot of crypto projects, and by any reasonable standard, these guys are crushing it. Sure, they might have had the occasional delay here and there. But based on the magnitude of what they are trying to accomplish, a little delay is to be expected. And when they have been delayed, they have been super transparent about why and when it will be resolved. Also something that virtually no other crypto project does. I have seen a lot of scams. And these guys have raised zero red flags for me thus far.

I also follow Waltonchain and VeChain very closely and neither of them are anywhere near as transparent with their community. Furthermore, they have both been around for more than a year longer than Ambrosus and neither of them are more advanced in terms of technology, sensors, or tokenomics. Yet I still think both of them are solid projects. I just can't imagine how anyone could read all the Ambrosus blog posts, look at all the AMA's, Reddit updates, etc and still conclude that this is a crap project. Or vaporware or whatever.

As far as the trivial details and stuff, truth is I can't remember at this very moment, and I don't care to go back through the chats and look it all up. But that's not the point anyway. You were still accusatory, and that's not productive. That's not how you get information.

>>12663439
There are a lot of crap companies in the crypto space, but the last thing I'm going to do is go onto their social media and start talking all kinds of shit. I value my time much more than that. I simply focus on the companies that I deem to have potential. If you don't think a company is good enough for your time or money, then simply don't give them any of your time or money. Why do you have to go and spread a bunch of lies about them and DM random strangers on Reddit? I'll never understand that. You could have spent that same time researching how to be a better investor, or a better person. Or maybe reading a few Ambrosus blog posts so that you at least sound informed when you go on Telegram and start raising a fuss.

>>12663430
>>12663439
>>12663449

This is Joseph, I have no idea what you are talking about. I didn't post anything to Reddit, and I posted in this thread yesterday, I have nothing to do with anyone on Sunday.

I honestly have no idea what you are talking about, I only posted in this thread my opinion and the justification for my opinion.

>>12663439
>and by any reasonable standard, these guys are crushing it
Uh, in what way?

>>12663829
They haven’t produced anything that we have seen irl and mainnet has still not been seen even though it’s been out since “August “

>>12663495
I mean, ok, whatever. Maybe it was Monday. I can't remember. There's been a non-stop parade of FUD clowns showing up in those chats. It doesn't even matter in the end. Just go find a better way to spend your time than talking shit about technology startups for no good reason.

>>12663966
dude ur loosing ur script get ur act together might just be caused by very heavy bags

This is fun

>innolabs