/biz/ - Business & Finance

if this is real lets move there, because fuck the 4chan biz jannies

someone test it and report back

>>12580819
You have my attention. Could you theoretically post whatever you wanted there and it would be there forever?

>>12580872
yes, but in the future, service providers, like this pages needs to see if someone post CP to delete it.. they cant delete it from the blockchain, but prevent it from beeing encoded on the site.
so yes, everything forever.

>>12580899
How much does it cost to post to this new devilry? I have like a billion questions, but I won't annoy the shit out of you with them.

>>12580942
few cents. but can be adjusted by miners, as price and adotion increases, its likely that fees decrease.
miners want people to do as much transactions as possible to earn. they will make it as cheap as possbile so billions of people can do it, makeing them, the miners rich, who will then, secure the network even more and so on.. thats bitcoin bitch

>>12580992
I've been a hardcore skeptic since /biz/ inception. (Yes, I could've bought btc for about $100 once upon a time, but I don't gamble so I'm ok with not becoming a millionaire that way)
This. This, is moving me towards belief. AN ACTUAL USE CASE!

>>12580992
>making the miners rich
You mean making the chinese rich because they own all the ASICs.

>>12581075
you can buy bitcoin for 62$ at the moment.
this is your second and last chance

This is fucking cool

>>12580819
there already is a decentralized alternative to the internet called ZeroNet and you don't need to pay to shitpost there. also everything there is forever as long as someone seeds it (its built on bittorrent technology).

>>12581138
lulz no, the chinese, especially jihan wu are fucked. they lost the hashwar. bitmain going bankrupt, jihan wu dissapeared (probably in jail)

>>12581138
the chinese will soon control the shitposting on the internet.

>>12581155
it's cool but dumb. I imagine this will make the blockchain grow incredibly fast. Multi TB blockchain soon.

>>12581155
like this picture, so i uplaoded it to bitcoin.

its now there, forever

https://b.bitdb.network/#24a9a86e153675cc14a9d516af0db23d238924c174f39aa78557c48c9215556a

>>12581158
>117 users
yikes

>>12581197
hopefully, thats the only way it works.
full block = miners earn by fees instead by mining bitcoin.

it can only work this way. mining coins was only an early incentive

>>12581222
yea but how do you store 1000 TB?

>>12581237
with 1000 TB storage space obviously
you don't get anything for free you know

>>12581237
How Big Are Facebook’s Server Farms?

As Facebook grows, its data center requirements are growing along with it. The data center Oregon was announced as being 147,000 square feet. But as construction got rolling, the company announced plans to add a second phase to the project, which added another 160,000 square feet, bringing the total size of the campus to 307,000 square feet – larger than two Wal-Mart stores. Last year, Facebook secured permits to build another 487,000-square foot data center in Prineville.

https://www.quora.com/What-is-storage-capacity-of-Facebook

you think 1000TB is alot?
the blockchain will grow by 100TB a day in some years

It would be a shame if someone were to upload hardcore child pornography, making it a permanent, unexcusable offense in the blockchain

>>12581254
>>12581275
Last year Facebook built a 62,000 square foot data center on its Prineville campus to house its cold storage, which can house 500 racks that each hold 2 petabytes of data, for a total of 1 exabyte of cold storage.

>>12581286
its only random data on the chain.. iofjp0ij42nr9ß12jpädiqwljfmes

the one who decodes it, or the one who host a website with the decoded video is the one getting fucked.. also hosting CP will leave a trail to you which will get you fucked to.

>>12581286
also miners can choose to not accept OP_RETURN code. so they might scan it to remove it or outsource this to another business doing it for them..

IT NOT ONLY BITOCIN ITS A WHOLE WORLD WIDE ECONOMY which is emerging.

Miners will build fibre cables all around the world to compete against others.
bandwith will be a sentence, nobody uses it anymore cause its near to unlimited.

we wont have high hardware pcs anymore, we will have terminals streaming everthing to ours screens directly from the blockchain.

ITS A NEW ERA

>>12581148
What does the coin buy me? I can use it for uploading/ downloading right?

Please forgive my retardation, in advance. Despite having been here forever, I've never felt the need for more than bemused passing curiosity.

Unironically, 2019 is the year of decentralized file storage/hosting

Reminds me of that Holochain and IPFS thing :hmm:

>>12581339
>39
its Bitcoin. its sound money, you can transfer it to pay for stuff.
you can also pay for bytes to be stored on the chain.
everything can be stored on the chain.
websites, music , books..

there will be new websotes based on this.
you pay for a movie per minute and if it sucks you stop paying, forcing movie creators to acutally build quality to earn money.

Also... unrelated.

Anyone else seeing Hiro's new ads? He's got fucking Toyota ads, and shit, displayed. Dude's about to start making coin with this 4channel scheme.

I feel bad for old m00t and his garbage business tier acumen. Never could monetize this wart.

>>12581158
>Free to shitpost
>Will be there forever
Pick one

>>12581370
>Anyone else seeing Hiro's new ads? He's got fucking Toyota ads, and shit, displayed. Dude's about to start making coin with this 4channel scheme.
really looking forward to the coming upvote/downvote system

>>12581387
Never use the same key twice. Did you even understand the very little basic of bitcoin you stupid brainless piece of bread?

The best thing about metanet is that it aligns profit and information. The internet is about to be inverted from a user data harvesting system to a market for quality information. The amount of value that is going to be created by making trade happen on the scales and frequency of the information age is the singularity

>>12581286
been hearing you kikes threaten this for 10 years. fucking doing it already you pussy faggot, i dare you

thats just a jpg of the thread, its not an actual website

>>12581417
I don't want to get this thread nuked, but i saw some very disturbing rumors about the future of our secret clubhouse over on /pol/, and the mods blew up the thread within 2 minutes of posting.

Sad times maybe? :/

>>12581434
Another fucker who gets it

>>12581454
post the archived link

>>12581434
>The best thing about metanet is that it aligns profit and information. The internet is about to be inverted from a user data harvesting system to a market for quality information. The amount of value that is going to be created by making trade happen on the scales and frequency of the information age is the singularity
woke

>>12581466
I'm a phonefag since 2010 my dude... want me to see if I can pull up the old url on the 404'd thread?

>>12581370
Toyota confirmed alt right

>>12581487
>I'm a phonefag since 2010 my dude... want me to see if I can pull up the old url on the 404'd thread?
yeah, all 4chan threads are automatically archived so I can probably get the archived thread from the 404

OP what's your name on telegram

>>12581434
Actually the best thing is, that one coin is worth 62 fucking dollars at this moment. Bitcoin was worth 20k that did absolutely fuck all. Craig said by 2020 he estimates that a block will be worth 40k USD. 40k / 6.25 makes each coin well worth more than 62 fucking dollars.

>>12581519
And that’s 40k backed by real wealth / info / data / etc

>>12581203
>>12581155
https://steemit.com already is done on blockchain and it looks like an ACTUAL modern website.
this fucking slow garbage looks like it came straight from the 90s lmao so pathetic

>>12581508
Tell me your name then i tell you if you know me

>>12581528
Can you host images on steemit?

>>12581519
IDIOT
The block beeing worth 40k means a miner earns the fees worth 40k$ (minus bitcoin price) cause blocks will be gigabyte size and full of transaction and fees

>>12581494
>>>/pol/201270434
I think this was the one. It shows as just 404 in my history description.

>>12581559
https://boards.. 4chan .org/pol/thread/ 201270434
Added spaces to show full url

>>12581428
First of all, I'm on your side, shitbag. Show some respect.
Second, what I said is true of Zeronet and touches on the problem solved by metanet. I know you're excited, but maybe lay off the meth-posting for a little bit, fellow traveler.

OP is using proxies to talk to himself and/or has some other shills posting to fake interest in this retarded idea. No one wants to pay money to use a pathetic 4chan clone. Free 4 Chan clones fail hard let alone ones that require fucking crypto.

>>12581559
>>12581569
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/201270434/

>>12581582
I'm genuinely interested, as evidenced by two unrelated side convos I've started. Yeah, it'll be dildos at first, but you'd have to be real autism to not see the potential, especially since it's in its infancy.

>>12581582
>>12581608
I actually thought it was pretty cool just as a tech demo

>>12581605
Was it confirmed fake? I don't like 8ch. They b& me from their /pol/ for not living Jesus enough...

>>12581582
this whole thread reeks of curry, very organic

>>12581254
so will they be using RLC for the data storage and cloud computing ?

>>12581641
Are you suggesting that some unkown party is paying indians to shill the coin that started it all? The one where no developer stands to gain from an ico or any of that nonsense? The one where only Satoshi himself, whoever that may be, could benefit most from a pump? The one coin that cannot be pumped by anything said here? What would the objective be for that?
Answer ever single one of these questions.

Just get yourself a dollar of Bsv and try all the cool and fancy shit which is out allready and which is coming out day by day.
Sure it's proof of concept yet. But if you understand the concept, you might see the trillion dollars industry which will emerge from this

>>12580819
Why nobody posting their handcash handle anon i want to but don't wane get ban

>>12580899
Sounds like steemit?

>>12581158
>>Tfw No incentives to seed

>>12581725
yeah let's monetize shit that would otherwise be free! let's monetize posting comments!

>>12581351
The ux sucks, i think I'm learning ux

this is fucking shit

companies will make it so you have to pay money just to browse the internet and post comments

fuck that

>>12581711
Creg's a salty faggot who stands to benefit and needs fools to buy into his project as it's getting shit on hard from every conceivable angle. Also good luck enforcing US software patents in Beijing.

what does this mean for jannies?

>>12580992
>they will make it as cheap as possbile so billions of people can do it, makeing them, the miners rich, who will then, secure the network even more and so on.. thats bitcoin bitch

>those spelling mistakes
>gratuitous use of commas
>shilling Sanjeevs Vision

FUCK YOU CRAIG WRIGHT YOU SCAMMING NIGGER DIE YOU CUNT I KNOW ITS YOU

>>12581915
Kek

https://www.bitpaste.app/#/tx/new

Allready adopted by bitpaste.

Allready heard of Cambrian explosion?
This is one

Super Mario Rom uploaded to the blockchain

https://www.bitpaste.app/#/tx/caf33369839f29ed8511cf54ff2e7e9d9c00122a915a92feb8cb354ffe489cad

I unironically think, this is it.
This is Bitcoin, it just started to work by removing the limits Blockstream forced on it

>>12581825
There's no such thing as a free lunch dumbass

so should I buy bitcoin SV?

>>12582364
you just posted and it was free, wasn't it dipshit

>>12582364
Air = free

>>12582364
This.
Fuckers who think these web apps are free are as dumb as universal healthcare degenerates. Servers cost money to run. Dumb-asses.

>>12582225
> Encoded transaction cannot exceed 100,000 bytes.
RUDE

>>12580872
I'd suggest using IPFS as the backend - let the threads be purged out regularly. Just store the hash refs on the blockchain. Better for the chains performance & scaling too.

>>12581825
It's like gas poorfag. All dapps need these one way or another, it prevents network spam. We're talking less than a percentage of a cent ffs.

Fuck off, why would I pay for this shit? The new internet needs to be free for the end user.

>>12581339
You really never use Ethereum or EOS or something? Same principle, dapps are open & uncensored - but the tradeoff is they're pay to play (actually still cheaper than most supposed free shit paid by taxes or selling your data though). How new are you?

>>12581351
Ya know Craig, I still think you're a lying fuck about being Satoshi, but this is indeed close to what I'd originally wanted Bitcoin to be.
>tfw a scammer realises actually delivering the product will be infinitely more profitable than scamming a few pajeets & NEETs.

>>12581275
yea but how do you store 1000 TB? Who does it and why? Facebook?

>>12582580
It still can be - of the dev soak costs by monetisation of you some other way. Like writhing a PoWH implementation on top that profits when you deposit or something, or even just serving adds that offset gas costs. Every Website I own costs money, even the 'free' ones. If you're not paying upfront, I'm showing ads or selling something to cover that & profit.

>>12582628
Miners. Or data center who work for miners. Or data centers who become miners. It's a brand new industry which is forming

>>12582628
IPFS. Can store bulk data & is commonly used by Ethereum & other shit. Will work fine with this too. Just a big p2p DHT, like a cleaner version of Bittorrent.
>t. Dapp author currently checking the SDK for this out.

>>12581899
It means the good ones might get rich. The best jannies and shitposters will be rewarded for good content/curation.
>>12582225
I like this metaphor. It fits since the Cambrian explosion is believed to have been preceeded by a yuge die off in the existing ecosystem due to a mega ice age. This nicely fits with the die-off we are currently witnessing in this, the last and longest of the crypto winters.
>>12582345
We are all going to make it. The ghost of Satoshi cannot be put back into the bottle.
>>12582364
>>12582395
We have been held back by these ridiculous economic illiterates for way too long. Time for these people to lose all their money and FUCK OFF

>>12582394
btfo

OP are you _unwriter

>>12582676
So all miners need to run a full node with a full copy of the blockchain?

>>12582705
I wouldn't waste my time here to post about my insane developments your shithead, I would continue develop more insane stuff.
But I follow him on Twitter, yes

>>12582546
slippery slope

don't say I didn't warn you.

SLIPPERY SLOPE

today it's $ .001, in 2021 it's .50 cents per post

fuck that

this means the monetization of every micro movement/interaction on the web. the most Jewish shit imaginable.

>>12582740
No, all who run a full node, will be miners hosting the metanet.
There absolutely no incentive to have a full node if you don't have at least a few % of the global hash power.
....Like it was described in the whitepaper

>>12582772
Cause fees can't be adjusted lel.
Miners earn by having people transact. People transact when it's cheap. Posting on a website, getting access to your mother's nudes by sharing cryptographic secrets also count as transaction.

Miners do all they can so that your mother can upload her nudes and sell them.
They provide the storage, the infrastructure, the security and makes it cheap to use. Only then adoption = money

>>12582628
>Who does it
Anyone that can make a profit providing that service
>why
To make a profit

How can you be in bitcoin without understanding this. Miners arent mining for free, theyre trying to make money.
This is why btc is so fucked, without on chain adoption there is no security because its not profitable to mine when the block reward stops

>>12582777
Then it becomes like the problem of the commons, it's more profitable to mine without hosting the data even though the system doesn't work unless someone hosts it. If the cost of hosting data is small that's fine but that's not the case here, the cost can easily become more than the profit from mining and it probably will be because people will want to exploit subsidized data hosting.
>>12582821
How do you profit from hosting the chain if you don't need to do that to mine?

>>12580819
>23 fucking posts
MODS, do your fucking jobs. How is this not blatant advertising?

You fucking janny fucks deserved to get dabbed on, you hot pocket eating degenerates.

>>12582895
Fear, you are in fear you shitcoin Segshit will die . Looser

The only way a crypto version of 4 Chan would even work or be worth a fuck would be to use a coin that has infinite supply and very easy to obtain.

>>12582943
I don't buy shitcoins kiddo. Segwit and bitcoin are gay

>>12582952
dogecoin is the master coin confirmed

>>12582609
>You really never use Ethereum or EOS or something? Same principle, dapps are open & uncensored - but the tradeoff is they're pay to play (actually still cheaper than most supposed free shit paid by taxes or selling your data though). How new are you?
I'm a crypto skeptic, and I've been here as long as there's been a here ("buy doge short pnd" ~amdoge), but seeing a use case has me a little excited.

>>12582870
The data is mined into the blockchain for a price

Smash God

>>12583090
You need to pay more attention anon. Dapps & smart contracts were always the really exciting part of the use case - programmable money. Why do you think there's >9000 Chainlink and Holo threads ffs? Anyone close to getting a working product out is what we're all looking at, since Bitcoin core killed any chance of real use cases emerging from it. If BSV gets there first, it wins. Unironically gonna load my bags.

>>12583158
If BSV really is like old bitcoin the miners handle transaction verification, they don't need to store the chain. Data encoded on chain is exploiting the good will of volunteers running full nodes so it's rightfully considered malicious spam. The purpose of the chain in this use case (bitcoin) was to verify transactions not store data, there are incentives for verifying transactions not for archiving the chain.

>>12583171
I almost... almost... bought eth under a dollar, and in retrospect, I probably should've. I'm a "real" (plz no offense) businessjerk, so I treat everything I don't fully understand, and I can't properly value, as a gamble. Crypto that powers something, aside from speculation (eth), got me so close to making the move, despite incomplete understanding.

This though! This speaks to me. I'm a freespeech/shitposting enthusiast. It's my hobby and passion.

>>12583220
How donyou verify without having the data *facepalm*

>>12583220
>good will
>volunteers
>spam
Not gonna make it

>>12583262
The miner doesn't need to store any data after he verifies and transmits it to the other clients. You're implying miners need to keep a copy of the chain, do they or not? Is there an incentive to store data or not?
>>12583338
Do you get anything for running a full node or not? Is it economically viable? If you're invested in this project it seems like something you should know.

So should I buy Bitcoin SV?

>>12583433
These is the Google of bsv why would they run fullnode?

https://oyo.cash
https://trends.cash

>>12583561
That's what I'm asking, why would they? Do you think providing a search engine for unlimited amount of data is profitable enough to host it all for free?

>>12581275
Exactly my point. How does the average joe store that much data? The answer is he doesn't! He can't. More proof PoW coins are just around to prop up a new crypto elite.

>>12581387
I love that the image is poo coloured.

>>12581871

What if Told you It won't really fucking matter as crypto will just flow to you.

>>12582345
>This is Bitcoin
This is a peer-2-peer cash system? More like p2p Child Porn sharing network/data dumpster.

>>12581899

In the future we won't need jannies.

>>12582253

Kek Nintendo gonna DMCA the blockchain good look stopping pirates now.

>>12583719

Devil's advocate here.

If we are to embrace a truly decentralized web where nothing is censored of coarse there will be C.P. posted to it. But I can also see a future where People are incentivized to hunt down and murder those that produce and distribute C.P. on the decentralized web and society would be A OK with that.

>>12580819
i thought we were supposed to do it for free :(

Why is this thread filled with people who type like they aren't regulars here?