/biz/ - Business & Finance

>My investments are with great companies.
>They will come back.

>>12578673
Yup, still firmly in denial

>>12578657
we're at depression. next comes disbelief with a rally to 10k.

>>12578683
Upbaoted

>>12578688
Nope, still way too many in denial.Your post itself is the very definition of it.

We haven't hit Capitulation yet. Once 2.5k comes it's going to be a blood bath down to the 1k range.

>>12578694
while yours is in capitulation
who's wrong?

>>12578711
?

>>12578657
You guys, it's seriously, unironically over. My life is over. There is nothing. We will not come back from.

Even if CL goes to top 4 it will not even be worth $10. Why did I ever believe I deserve happiness.

If you still think you'll be able to become rich off crypto you're in denial.

>>12578688
this

>>12578657
Currently we're clearly in Denial, this board is the perfect example of it.

>>12578721
You fell for the link meme, it was literally a joke. Sorry anon, we were just joking around.

>>12578721
Because you're an idiot. You're a worthless sack of shit, kill yourself

>>12578721
Just dont just yourself before 2022. We'll go under 1k people will completely lose interest, it will go sideways around between 700 and 2500 then the magic can happen.

>>12578729
HiStOrY rEpEaTs ItSeLf

>>12578657
>>12578688
>>12578694
Retards still comfy holding scam coins like holo, trx, rlc, link, req and you think we are in depression/anger lmao.
we still have a long way down to go and those who cannot see that gotta cope harder.
the simple fact that you still believe youre gonna make it in crypto shows how much in denial you still are

>>12578764
More often than not, it does.

>Points out why we are in Denial/Complacency with a Capitulation/Depressive kind of argument
im confused

>>12578780
DON'T TALK TO ME OR MY DEV'S MOZZARELLA AGAIN

>>12578657

we are entering denial bitcoin is colapsing but all the normies are like:

whatever, it will be 80k by 2021

>>12578847
zoom out, faggot

>>12578729
we're going to break 57k in the no doubt
adjust the gold price with inflation and compare it to bitcoins inflation %

>>12578861


6k was anxiety, everyone was saying "we bottomed out, the bullrun may start at any moment"

denial is now. (whatever, it will be 80k by 2021)

panic is 2800

capitulation is sub 2500

anger is 1800


there you have faggot, now go do something productive with your life for the first time in all your existence

>>12578847
/biz/ has been in denial for months
and it's even more clear if you analise their reactions. i'd short on that alone

O can only see people here saying “oh, you’re still in denial”, “forget it anon, you are never gonna make it”. “it’s all scams”.

sorry to break it to you, but you are all in depression already, and we are going to the moon this year. we can even get below 3k, but by end of 2019 we are gonna be above 4k and rising

We are nearing Euphoria.

>>12578688
This.

L O L
We exited complacency and are entering anxiety just now.
Regards, someone who actually knows his stuff

>>12578683
>>12578673
Only on /biz. Every norrmie and nocoiner that came only for easy money is past the depression phase

>>12578657
This

>>12578657
I was angry in November and depressed in August

>>12578657
Which cycle? The 2017 one has come and gone. Are you calling for a correction on 2014? I honestly want you to type it and read it until you understand how arbitrary and asinine this chart is.

We're crashing to allow acquisition of GOX reparations or we're actually headed to 0. It's one of the 2 and how quickly we dive to 1200 will indicate which.

>>12578657
Can't wait for reckter

>>12578657
I'm certainly angry at the fat russian.
For not being able to set up a live stream of his talks
For not hiring a couple more devs 1.5 years ago
For not writing ONE yearly update blog post.

>>12578780
>the simple fact that you still believe youre gonna make it in crypto shows how much in denial you still are
just imagine someone saying this 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017 - because they were - and just know that they're all wrong.
the only way you're right, is if crypto is actually destined to go to $0.
given the fact that global turmoil is on the rise very linearly and objectively due to environmental/population straining the limits of growth, it only goes to follow that Venezuelas and Turkey's will become more and more common, bleeding fiat m-cap into decentralized currencies.
there will always be a need for truly unregulatable borderless value, and no government will offer that in full because it threatens archaic power models; venmo and zelle is as close as you'll get.
It's a simple macro hypothesis, but it has yet to be proven wrong. one bear market and a whole generation of retail investors getting shafted does not change any of this, either.
but what do I know? I've just been buying BTC since $400 and Monero sub $10. I've already "made it" as far as happiness from wealth is concerned. Now I just want more so I can graduate from "security" to "influence" level of wealth.
good luck to everyone playing the game, and try to step back from it.
screencap me, papi.

>>12578973
The market is a dumpster fire.read this, make a convincing argument against it, and tell me it deserves ro maintain the current price, let alone go up

>>12580116
>so I can graduate from "security" to "influence" level of wealth
I bought around the same time as you anon, and am currently working on this as well. We are not just going to make it, we are going to remake the world as well.
God speed.

>>12578694
>>12578711
>>12578717
Haha this is why this stupid fucking chart doesnt mean dogshit.

>>12580132
>wohooo the market is a heavily manipulated mess
i dont need some plebbitor 13 months into a bear market telling me this

Its basic psychology at best. It was the case for 4 cycles now. The crash now hints that there will be a possibilty tha it will happen the 5th time. Imagine it never would have crashed after DEC 17. just trading between $15-25k for the next couple of years until development actually breeded the first killer app. be appreactive to the financially opportunities this crash now gave you. nobody will/ will ever do reassure you with the money you put into BTC/crypt during bear markets. you need balls to do that. literally spending 300-700 days in complete uncertainty for the 30-60 the mania comes back, and everything actually turned out the way you wanted it to.

>>12578673
This. I've been trying to "my investments are with great coins they'll come back"-pill /biz/ ever since we broke downwards at 6000 USD

>>12580116
do you see hope for alts or just BTC?

>>12580159
>>12580116
You better not forget us. Make this place better than it has ever been. God speed anons.

>>12580728
Not OP but alt season is during the BTC rally to previous ATH. When we get past previous ATH you all in BTC and wait until we go parabollic again then sell once we are at complacency/when alts moon again. That's my plan at least.

>>12580728
if BTC go's up alts will follow as it shows interest in the market.

>>12578657
we are in denial. stay deluded

>>12580116
people on 2014 werent going all in with 100% certainty that it would go back up. you still see hundreds of retards saying that they will go all in on "the bottom" because btc will go to 1 million dollars.

>>12578673

At this point, when people say
>We're at anger/depression
what they mean is
>WE'VE HIT THE BOTTOM BOYS! NO WHERE TO GO BUT UP!

We're still in denial..

>>12578972
>making it to anger
Should be changed to suicide

>>12580834
>IT’S OVER IT’S THE BOTTOM! I think we’re in disbelief desu

>>12578657
nothin personnel

>>12580808
what if you are the retard? ever think about that possibility?

>>12581004
Well, so far he's well on his way to 200k but the next three months will be critical unironically

>>12581004
we'll see whos the retard once btc is at 2k. hope you hodl it all. hope you fucking buy even more. just put all your money in btc and hodl all the way down to 2k.
>>12581376
this is the most brainlet shit ive seen in a while and i'm in /biz/ so, amazing accomplishment

>>12581421
>his is the most brainlet shit ive seen in a while and i'm in /biz/ so, amazing accomplishment

this was part 1/2 to show how not to read charts you morron. Part 2/2 is how it should be read, we are in depression.:
>>12581393

WE ARE AT FKING DEPRESSION HOLY SHIT I AM FKING DEAD PLEASE MOON BTC AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

>>12578973
>/biz
>>/reddit/
>>/out/

As far as timelines go, we are at or nearly at the bottom judging by weekly oscillators. As I retail investor I am not going to try and time the bottom in terms of $. Not starting to buy back in now is just as risky as waiting 100% on the sidelines for the wick into 2k range that may never come or only be here for a few minutes when it materializes.

We're around depression. Most people think it's going to 1k. This is actually bullish as fuck.

>>12581376
This is pro quantum Chad level TA

>>12578693
Fuck off back to r e d d i t, you're not welcome here.

>>12581820
how do you know what they do there?

>>12581847
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vifYelSTlMo

>>12581889
>this 5 year old video of big man tyrone that i probably found on r e d d i t will really show this anonymous stranger that im edgy and different
that said, a classic's a classic

>>12578657
We're between anger and depression.

>>12581954
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe1Hgtjm7Rg

>>12578657
more like panic

>>12578657
I’m fuckin angry so maybe your right op!!!

>>12582047
You’re late anon. We are all in depression.

>>12582017
you like talking about r e d d i t an awful lot
why are you letting it live rent-free in your head?

>>12578697
>>12578697
>fck

>>12578657
Confirmed: op is a fag. We are between complacency and anxiety

2.8K will be the final point

>>12580132
>Scams, clearly illegal exchanges, wash trading and fake volume,
but that's why I like crypto
lol reddit is so retarded
the blind preaching to the blind over there

>>12580687
>Its basic psychology at best. It was the case for 4 cycles now. The crash now hints that there will be a possibilty tha it will happen the 5th time. Imagine it never would have crashed after DEC 17. just trading between $15-25k for the next couple of years until development actually breeded the first killer app. be appreactive to the financially opportunities this crash now gave you. nobody will/ will ever do reassure you with the money you put into BTC/crypt during bear markets. you need balls to do that. literally spending 300-700 days in complete uncertainty for the 30-60 the mania comes back, and everything actually turned out the way you wanted it to.

We're entering anxiety

>>12578657
Fuck this sucker‘s rally. I sold and finally, I am free

>>12581664
All the normies I know who are interested said they’d buy at 1k, that’s how I know we are at bottom. Screen cap this you miserable faggots.

Normies in my office who FOMO'd in December have long forgotten crypto and you don't have idiots asking me if Tron is a good investment.

We are near the bottom lads. hang in there.

>>12578780
>the simple fact that you still believe youre gonna make it in crypto shows how much in denial you still are
It's not that I believe that, its that I need it. I literally do not have the capacity to wage slave for the rest of my life, I make it or I die.

>>12582625
Office normies - yea those fuckers are long gone

>>12582562
>greed
The type of person who buys during peak euphoria but not after an 85% drop is greedy and will get slaughtered by the market.

>>12579010
>We're crashing to allow acquisition of GOX reparations or we're actually headed to 0. It's one of the 2 and how quickly we dive to 1200 will indicate which.
based on what?

>>12580834
>>12580834
>>12580696
>>12578673
I have no emotional investment in the bottom, I'm just trying to time it. I don't see why it should retrace all the way to the $1k-2k range.

>>12581847

>>12578741
This

>>12580883
This one. Bottom is $2500-$2800

>>12581376
>>12581393

Hahahaha fucking denial

Bears clearly in euphoria

>>12581393
What's going to trigger the next run up? ETFs? Holochain fomo?

>>12581376
Why is the line before the drop from 4-3k? You are clearly missleading us. We already bottomed.

>>12584476
Be careful with timing the bottom, play it safe and dca within the 4-3k range.

>>12584788
The only bottom here is you, about to get fucked in the ass by a big gay bear, you delusional imaginary internet money moron

Wasn't plebbit calling crypto a scam not too long ago? I feel like we're close to the bottom. Just another dip down and wait for people to suicide and it's over for bear market. Everyone who planned on selling has sold at this point, I already conceded that if it goes down to 0 then I just didn't make it.

>>12578673
>>12578683
>>12578694
>>12578697
>>12578732
Delusional permabull Bitcoin Fund Manager is now calling for $1200

If you can't figure out whats happening you deserve to get liquidated

How come there's no regret? Seems like it would be a reasonable emotion

>>12584844
Top fucking kek, that's Robert Kim, guy is a known scammer, he's not a Fund Manager. I used to be in a private channel with him and kicked his dumb ass out.

http://robertkim-scam-korean-american-conman.blogspot.com/

>>12578657
nah, that'll be when we're back down to triple digits

>>12584829
Frankly, we are all small fish. Institutions will move the price down to accumulate more but after a year of downside, most retail investors that will sell have. These whales/exchanges/institutions are in a holding pattern now until the time is right to blow the market back up again. This is a new asset class for them to sell to retail, killing crypto would be shooting themselves in the foot.

>>12584844
He's being paid to prepare people for peak Willy Bot values so that they'll dump their reparations. Letting all of those plebs cash out at 3K in a market this badly leveraged would be catastrophic.

>>12584858
regret is for losers

>>12580132
https://deadcoins.com/

REMINDER THAT THE BANKERS ARE TRYING TO SMASH CRYPTO

Image feed, here

https://imgur.com/a/3oFTkRD

>>12584909
He's just a low level huckster, I know him personally. His whole shtick is talk, talk, talk... check the link I posted.

>>12584786
bakkt priced in. Tokenized digital trading in traditional stock launched earlier this month, no one cared because it's a trap for people to dump their crypto into boomer stocks which are about to plummet. Etf's priced in, last announcement on denial didn't budge the price.
Adoption is the only thing left and that will take nearly ten years, and the price will be reflected on an asset nobody hold right now because it doesn't exist yet.

>>12584909
gox is overhyped that 140k btc is not that big of a deal because not all of it will be dumped and not at once
whales will scoop that shit up like nothing

Hyper intelligent le 4channer business expert here. We are all in the complacency stage and Bitcoin will continue to fall until it is $0.00.

Crypto was a scam and a 2017 bullrun will never happen again. Everything is a fucking scam. The only thing that’s not a scam is index funds.

>coin needs at least 500% gains just to get my money back
>Dad said if I don't make a 4% profit from my initial investment by the end of the year the family fortune all goes to my brother

I don't think Im going to make it

>mfw everyone is now super bearish and people are unironically calling for 2k and below
>mfw this is pretty much the bottom and you're all gonna be salty as hell 5 years out

kek

>>12578657
seriously speaking, why would the market go up at this point? for what reasons?

>>12585136
Halvening, adoption, institutional money, governments investing as a hedge, normie greed after exchanges pump, really think Arthur is going to grind his money making machine into dust?

I'm bemused. Where is bemused on the graph?

Does anyone have any articles talking about regulating bitcoin because investors lost their life savings??

I feel like that will signal depression. but i haven't heard of it yet.

>>12585075

why you didn't had a stop loss

sub-3400 and dropping!

>>12578657
st. anger was the best metallica album for sure

>>12580159
I started late but this will be my life journey as well. I'm extremely patient and I'm learning as much as I can from every stage (newfag, I joined during june 2017, underwent a process of understanding blockchain, etc..and finally bought my first coin in november 2017)

Frankly, I have been able to detach myself from all the sentiment and I'm grateful for that. I believe that crypto is still one of the biggest transfers of wealth of this century and I'm sure it's not the end of it just yet. I will make it. I just need time and patience. Even if it takes me 10 years, it will happen.

>>12578657

agreed

Still see /biz/ in denial, god you retards just wont wake the fuck up

90IQ - Its gonna recover this year
100IQ - Its gonna recover in 2020
110IQ - Its gonna recover in 2021
120IQ - Its gonna recover in 2022
130IQ - Its gonna recover in 2023
140IQ - Its gonna recover in 2024
150IQ - Its gonna recover in 2025
200IQ - Its gonna recover in 2030
300IQ - It has already recovered

>>12580159
>>12580116

You fuckers better institute universal (opt out) basic income and abolish current welfare programs in order to combat automation induced crisis and reduce inefficient government welfare bureaucracy that is designed to trap the poor into welfare while simultaneously making them feel guilty about it.

>>12583356
SO BRAVE!

>>12578729
14 years till the top?!? Fuck, I’m 34...I don’t got that much time.