/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>12476682
What jobs have you applied to? Being a PhD in Physics I'd assume you would know Python, LaTeX and MatLab. Maybe consider going data Scientist route?

>>12476682
You can always make some money teaching physics. Not much, but everyone is looking for physics teachers

>>12476682
Make YouTube channel teaching about physics so that others can learn about it through YouTube for free

>>12476754
Competition for data science is cut throat thanks to bazillions of boot camps and MOOCs churning out “”””data scientists””””

>>12476773
tutoring is much more lucrative and less stressful. If you're white, handsome, and went to a prestigious university you can make bank. I currently charge £50 an hour for online tutoring, £70 an hour (plus travel expense) for in person.

I typically do mostly online, 5-6 hours a day, 4-5 days a week, about £4000-£5000 a month.

I have a Masters in Mathematics from Cambridge, no teaching qualifications

>>12476773
I did apply for a teaching program. Got through to an interview but they said I “lacked the passion and drive to be a teacher”

Huh.


>>12476784
I learnt most of my physics from Youtube unironically. How am I going to profit when the likes of Stanford and MIT upload physics lectures for free?

>>12476819
Also i live with my parents and literally invest every single penny

>>12476682
I worked with a dude that had a PhD in Physics. Smart as hell but having a conversation with him was torture. He would explain every little fucking detail that it took forever to complete a 1 minute conversation.

He was a hell of a coder though.

>>12476819
Nice.

I would do that. But unfortunately I look like a creep and also balding, so parents would think I am a pedo.

Probably why I can’t get a job even though i progress to interviews.

I guess the Tinder-ization of the whole job market really does filter out ugcels like me.

Huh.

>>12476866
Yeah I also tend to overcomplicate things when I speak, I guess.

How did you hire the guy anyway?

OP you have a really poor attitude. All these people suggesting legitimate paths forward and you just shut them all down with excuses.

>>12476682
Medical device companies

>>12476893
Haha yeah. It seems that way, doesn’t it?

Huh.

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>>12476907
Haven’t looked into these guys yet.

What are your thoughts about this area?

>>12476819
I consider tutoring teaching... I guess the low hours would be nice in your situation, but there are much higher paying jobs for physicists in industry.

>>12476822
That's one fucking program, it sounds like your real problem is you have no drive. Maybe just go be a janitor or something at a uni, you'll get decent benefits and have to be a real fuckup to get fired.

>>12476682
The first job is always the hardest to get... It took me nearly two years to get my first job after I got my computer science degree.. and even then it was only first-line phone support at an ISP... so:

1. keep your hopes up
2. if your dream job doesn't pan out yet, go for something different
3. service jobs suck, but earns you a bit of dosh until you can find something better...

After the first job, the longest i've been unemployed for was a bit less than 3 months.After the ISP stint I got a coding/sysadmin job through my dad, which leads me to:

4. Your friends and family may be able to help you... use your personal network.

After that I had some good stuff to put on my resume and got hold of a few recommendation letters because:

5. If you work your ass off and get people to see your skills, it can pay off in the end

It resulted in me getting a glowing letter of recommendation from the CTO at my second job. Not only did I code my ass off at that job, I also took over a lot of the sysadmin work after a few months.

Since your PhD paper is still fresh, I would also suggest:

6: Be open towards getting an internship, even if it's unpaid

Since you're still inexperienced, it's a good way to get "the foot in the door" and additional refrences for future work. Do beware that you can get screwed over on internships and make sure that you get a contract covering the internship (unless you're protected by law of your country) and that you read it twice.

>>12476784 is on the right track. Do physics experiments/explanations on video and use it as an addition to your CV. Do beware, however, if you are on some kind of welfare or enrolled in work insurance, that anything that can be construed as work or earns you money, can cut your welfare off.

>I learnt most of my physics from Youtube unironically. How am I going to profit when the likes of Stanford and MIT upload physics lectures for free?
By catering to the layman like Cody's Lab, for instance

I'll only give you this advice once so listen. Go get a masters in medical physics and you'll be set. Chances are a lot of your credits will transfer. My best friend growing up also has a PhD in physics and went on to get his masters. Now he tells doctors how to treat patients and makes real good money.

>>12476846

must be nice not having meme perants who need you to help pay bills and buy groceries

>>12476682
I'm 27, have a college degree and have never made more than $15/hr + commission as a sales phone rep (SDR).

My 18 year old gf just got a $25/hr job doing tech support for a web company because the guy who owns the company is someone she has played video games with (in some vidya game group)

I'm happy for her but shit makes me want to pull my hair out

>>12477658
>the guy who owns the company
anon...

>>12476870
>so parents would think I am a pedo.
Are you sure? Have you tried? Do you drool when you see naked kids playing?

I'm not exactly the best looking person out there myself, but keeping a clean-looking exterior (well-trimmed hair and beard and a dab of eau d' toilette can get you a long way.

>Probably why I can’t get a job even though i progress to interviews.
It might also probably be that you're overly nervous, or that you give the "wrong" answers that make you less of a fit for the company. Unless you apply as a model, looks mean shit.. My previous CEO looked like an old pedo himself until he removed his fugly mustache.

Remember the 4x20 rule:

>The first 20 seconds
You are judged from looks, your clothes and your posture. All senses are active in the other party and noise or bad odor may have negative impact on the first meeting
>The first 20 words
The better and clearer you can explain yourself, the better you are off from the beginning. Think about what you want to say and how you introduce yourself.
>The first 20 steps
When you enter a room or walk over to, say, an interviewer, your gait and posture is read. For instance, if you walk with a tired, sloppy gait at the same time you speak with enthusiasm, the other party will likely consider you untrustworthy because of the conflicting signals
>The first 20 centimeters (aka.your face)
Smile, especially with your eyes (ie. a genuine smile). Show that you are happy and are excited for the meeting. Your face is your "business card", and what is remembered best by others

This ruleset is often taught to salespeople and job applicants in my country.

However, the most important rule is to greet others by giving them your hand, bowing or whatever is done in your culture as the first thing.

>>12476819
>I typically do mostly online
Tell me more. MS in mechanical engineering, but currently unemployed. This would let me tread water while I figure out what to do next.

>>12476682
Start a math/physics help YouTube channel. You could also make a website like khan academy after you get a little success on YouTube.

>>12477706
HAHAHAHH

>>12476682
1) Use your advanced knowledge of physics to build a time machine
2) Use said time machine to travel back to before you chose to get a PhD in physics
3) ????
4) Buy US Sports almanac, profit

>>12476682
Does the Aether really exist? Were we lied to? Tell me about wormholes.

>>12478149
ur mom has a wormhole between her legs lol

>>12476682
>Make a website teaching everything you know.
>Charge a subscription fee for the more advanced classes.
It's the only way to get back at the Universities that screwed you over, OP.

>>12478163
Faggot! Tell me about anti-gravity and forcefields.

>>12476822
I dunno, does Khan academy make money? He must or he wouldn't still be doing it.

>>12477706
OOF

I have a PhD in physics and there are a thousands of blockchain companies who need people who know some math and can do some coding. "blockchain architect". It's a thing.

>>gets PhD in physics
>>it’s a STEM they said
>>doesn’t understand the meaning of fucken hustling because ego would let them
>>fuck you

>>12476773
You make about $44 per hour as an entry level physics teacher, it's not too bad.

>>12476682
How many publications did you get during your PhD? Experimental or theory? Did you apply for post docs?

>>12478169
ur breath is a force field

>>12478334
Technically true.

>>12478140
why the hell would you need a mint condition US sports almanac from the past?

i'd start off with buying it in step 1 or 2, kind sir

>>12478244
Good one. Other niches may be stuff like cryptography

>>12478283
>$44 per hour
not too bad? that's a good fuckin' wage right there!
That's coming from a coder that has struggled breaking the $25/hr mark for years

>>12478587
That's what the uni pays to do stuff like run tutorials etc for undergrad university courses. Often they give this work to their PhD students.

>>12476682
become a teacher or substitute, they'll probably let you do almost anything

better than nothing

>>12476682
>struggling to get back on track with my phd
>psych myself up and get focused
>see this thread and have doubts again
Is it really a meme after all?

>>12477658
they play video games together in a group and he hired her for $25/hr

bro....think about what you just said

>>12478169
I thought everyone on 4chan was an expert on the latter

>>12478693
Depends how many publications you have out by the time you finish. This seems to be the most important determining factor as to whether you can do a post-doc (assuming u want to stay unis - I do they’re comfy). Also be prepared to do a post doc literally anywhere in the world.

How about you start a youtube channel and cover some fringe science topics that most 'scientists' feel uncomfortable about? Stuff like quantum mechanics, the observer effect, is it really possible for a message to be received before it's sent? Other topics could be tesla electricity/free energy, etc.

Follow it up with experiments on your channel.

A channel like that, I'd watch.

Don't listen to the wagecucks telling you to get a job, even a 6 figure job is not worth giving all your time and energy to. You also have to deal with all kinds of shitty people issues, like somebody feels threatened there is another smart person there, etc.

>>12477658
should get your tinder ready

>>12476682
>Spend 7+ years with debt studying boring shit so you can apply for worse paying jobs with more responsibility

OP you still here? I'm in a similar situation.

Went into physics hoping to contribute to the knowledge of humanity and shit and came out a bitter burned-out waste of life. Now all my work and studies feel useless because I really don't want to stay in academia.

If my parents weren't capable of supporting my financially I'd have already necked myself.

>>12476682
>Tried to read up on it a bit but then I realized I’d just be competing with people who have PhDs in Computer Science.
Wrong. There is a very high demand for all kinds of software development across the globe, whether its backend, frontend or just designing shit. All you need to do is create a few passion projects and land a few interviews. You have the competence to get a PhD in Physics, I'm sure you'll be able to do this with ease.
>I feel i need to leave behind a legacy before I can do that. Hence the blog/youtube idea.
Just make a blog about your struggles and show off your programming stuff there.

>>12476682
>fell for the physics meme
trucking is in big demand

>>12476682
Have you thought about InfoSec? A lot of people in that sector are not CS graduates. There are a lot of jobs that don't involve coding but require coming up with policies and putting it into documents so that C-suite and board of directors can understand what is going on.
You clearly know to approach problems systematically.
You have nothing to lose, start by reading "Navigating the Digital Age", if you like it then start reading more

>>12476819
Im done with masters too, currently sitting at 7 months unemployment. How do I go at this and market myself? Is there a specific website for tutoring?

>>12476787
So do some of those courses yourself. What have you been doing for 9 months to improve your marketable skills? I have a PhD in applied math (unrelated to machine learning, etc.) and I did multiple data science MOOCs. I got two data science job offers and one software engineer job offer (they didn't do any coding test and I told them I didn't have that much programming experience, but I guess I convinced them I could learn whatever I needed, plus the job involves some math).

>>12480266
based

>>12477578
>6: Be open towards getting an internship, even if it's unpaid

Been applying to internships and unpaid jobs but still no luck. But I'll keep trying. I guess.

Also I'm not on welfare since I'm lucky to be NEETing with my parents.But they're starting to get annoyed by my presence, so probably have to find something within the next month or two.

>>12477636
I'm already in $100k debt lol

>>12478244
I've been approached by recruiters from the blockchain scene. But when I get interviews with the actual hiring manager, they're like "oh, we're actually looking for someone with more experience in software development"

>>12479674
Same.

>>12480188
Not something I've looked into extensively yet. Doesn't this involve a lot of local/online networking and cryptography if we're dealing with cybersecurity?

>>12480266
>What have you been doing for 9 months

Been applying to jobs and preparing for interviews. The time all adds up. But now I've realized I probably need like 6 months to revise computer science to crack these coding monkey tests

>>12476787
If you done a master's degree in those 9 months or so wouldn't you now be close to obtaining Msc / phd level abilities of a data scientist? Almost anything regarding data analytics combined with high CS knowledge makes a lot and since it's booming (and probably will continue to do so for the next couple of years) there are plenty of jobs and career paths available.

>>12476819
The sad part is you're probably doing a much better job somehow than university does. If you would put your fees charged per hour compared to what a student on average spends to get an hour teaching in an university you're probably even cheaper. But in university the lecture room is crammed with 50-300 students (depending on the size) and you have practical sessions with TA's that sometimes don't even understand the material they're supposed to help you with.

>>12477578
PHD is pretty much 4 years of working experience. Not sure in what kind of rural country / place you live that it took you 2 years to get employed while holding a CS degree. Or you just weren't trying. A lot of my friends did a degree in something related to IT and they're all earning well above median. Maybe you just didn't try to get a good job or were not confident.

>>12476682
Anon if you can into math and know anything about data structures and mobile app development, you're invited to join my startup

>>12476819
your still trading your time for money. You should try to figure out how you can scale your operation. Perhaps hire tutors to work under you while you take a cut of their earnings. Be a capitalist and entrepreneur if you're so smart. I'm sure that not every single client of yours absolutely needs your expertise - find a 2nd or 3rd year undergrad in your field of study and exploit their situation to make a profit. This way you are learning about business, building a network, and exercising any leverage you have.

>>12478683
I mean I technically make $55/hour teaching at a University but they split up the courses among a huge number of adjuncts so everyone ends up with like 8-12k per semester at best.

>>12476682

Jesus, why are all these Physicist killing themselves?

You guys were made to do machine learning and neural nets, handling big data and shit. The companies are paying big money for it. Don't even need to know much programming. It's all about using the tools to handle and process data: https://www.wired.com/2017/01/move-coders-physicists-will-soon-rule-silicon-valley/

>>12476682
Holy shit, are you me? I finished my PhD nearly 4 months ago, but been looking for a job for close to 10 months. It's so fucking shit. All that effort, stress and shit pay, only to be struggling to get a job in the end. I have tried going via the data science route but I just can't land either a program like ASI or S2DS.
Maybe try quant stuff but be careful with startups, some really shady things in there. Otherwise try data analyst can be something, but they want SQL most of the time.
College is such a scam, I wish there is an alternative. Why they don't spend some time actually making courses that gives some practical knowledge of programming languages in the average workplace.
Fuck, thank god I did some programming with python and C++ during my PhD otherwise I wouldn't get any calls at all.
Any young anons out there who might read this, DO NOT DO a PhD, go get some real work experience.

>>12476682
>I feel i need to leave behind a legacy before I can do that. Hence the blog/youtube idea.

>>12476787
this guy understands skill debasement

>>12483035
>Any young anons out there who might read this, DO NOT DO a PhD, go get some real work experience.
Yep, the highest I went was a Master's. I know all my normie classmates were pushing for a Ph.D. I was proud to get my terminal Master's degree and get a job afterwards.

>>12477658
Holy fuck, if your trolling I take my hat off

>>12479674
>Went into physics hoping to contribute to the knowledge of humanity

>>12480188
>Have you thought about InfoSec? A lot of people in that sector are not CS graduates
So why even get a Ph.D in the first place? You know many of these programs are marketed towards people with literally only a high school diploma. A better track to go on would've been enlist in the military, get real world experience, government benefits, get advanced degree in something relevant to real life, and you'll be double-dipping in real-life. Instead they went the difficult route because all of you thought you were above the crowd. Tough luck, looks like that kid that enlisted right after high school is doing far better in life than you are. A degree doesn't make you smart, it's who you are and what you make of it. It's a shame because the market is so oversaturated with meme Ph.Ds and everybody thought they were special little snowflakes deep down inside, just like everybody else.

>>12479619
Exactly, that Ph.D will be an albatross' neck around you for the rest of your life. The pay won't be great, but more will be expected of you because you're a "doctor"

OP here. I just got an email that I've been invited for an interview in consideration for a Data Scientist role NEXT WEEK.

How do I efficiently revise Statistics, Machine Learning, Deep Learning, SQL, Python and R in less than a week? What are the main areas I should focus my time revising?

>>12483789
How much experience do you have with that stuff already? You can't cram all of that in a week.

These questions and answers may help you:
https://github.com/kojino/120-Data-Science-Interview-Questions
In my interviews, I was asked mostly the "predictive modelling" type questions. Basically when to use different ML algorithms, give an intuition of how they work, explain regularization and when to use it, explain different error metrics, etc.

It depends on the job, though. Some jobs are more stats based than ML. I personally didn't get any stats questions, though. You probably don't need to know Python AND R, one is enough (Python seems to more useful, especially for ML stuff).

Deep Learning is used a lot for computer vision, NLP, etc. For a typical "data scientist" job you should prioritize the "basic" algorithms first, like logistic regression, SVMs, random forests, and so on.

I didn't get asked about SQL at all. It was mentioned in some of the job ads, but not all. I've never used it. I don't think it takes long to learn, so this may not be a deal-breaker.

>>12483152

I genuinely pity people who dedicate their lives to better humanity.

They are great people but they do not seem to realize they are surrounded by retards who love to set shit everything on fire.

>>12483963
Thanks for the link. I haven’t done PDFs and CDFs in a while...

>>12476682
post resume again, kys im not searching

>>12484114
Sadly that's kinda true

>>12483963
im thinking of applying to a Masters in Data Science because I want to get into NLP / machine learning, and ideally data scientist jobs;

good idea or no?

I have a MA in social science already

Physicists should to into either:
1. Finance
2. Machine learning for SV firms

Is data science going to be irrelevant anytime soon? I got a STEM degree and have been trying to make a couple of businesses but haven't been able to live off of them since I started (6 months ago). Thinking about getting an MS in something that sounds important so I can do meme management consulting and charge boomers $100k how to open adobe reader

>>12476787
this is bullshit. I work for a mega org with a huge data team and we have a tiny number of "real" data scientists. it's nearly impossible to find qualified applicants, recruiters are necessary and they pull $200k salary easily plus bonuses. I'm basically a low level data scientist myself, but I'd never call myself that.

>>12476754
>Being a PhD in Physics I'd assume you would know Python, LaTeX and MatLab

why?

>>12485029
You pretty much have to write your thesis in latex, and all research is done using either MATLAB, Juilia or python. Usually MATLAB.