/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>12428780
Short NFLX
Yay or Nay?

>>12428780
kneepad ist back

Crypto is a leading indicator for stocks. Get ready for a bad day tomorrow.

>>12428795
Nay

>>12428807
It doesn't look sustainable to me, disregarding the absurd market cap and P/E ratio

But yeah this stock is similar to Tesla, makes no fucking sense

>>12428826
>Unironically the meme bubble chart.

>>12428860
It gets even worse

>>12428780
What's the source of this pic?

Selling my crypto at a 70% loss and buying index funds a couple weeks ago was the best decision of my life.

>>12428826
all markets are bubbles. netflix has big backers behind it in order to placate the masses. they are not going anywhere.

>>12428964
But does that justify a 145 billion dollar market cap? I mean fucking Disney is worth 160 billion...and they have ESPN, Fox, LucasArts and Marvel.

What does Netflix have?

>>12428964
Netflix is finished. Everyone wised up and stopped leasing them streaming rights to their shows and launched their own services. Nobody gives a shit about their meme original programming. Once Disney launches their own service it's all over.

>>12428780
I was going to make a vento aureo thread you little shit

>>12428887
>it's.... beautiful

I feel reborn

Im a Baby now!

>>12428980
Doesnt matter what it has, its going to all time highs to blow out the small specs again

>creating a new thread before the bump limit or image cap

>>12428780
Buy NIO

Reporting LCI Question

say the market re-tests dec. lows after lackluster bank earnings, in your opinion will lci go down in tantamount fashion, thus making a red day for the indexes a good lci buy opportunity? Trying to find a nice dip entry point but I dont know much about the price action for LCI

>>12429126
:D
>>12428780
:D

>>12428795
Yay

>all these anons talking about FOMOing into LCI now that it's up yugely

As a general rule, don't FOMO into things when they've already gone up significantly, just find another opportunity

>>12429661
FOMO is part of the squeeze. LCIguys shilling will pay off with small.specs not wanting to miss out, forcing the squeeze higher and higher
Eventually they'll be left holding the bag of course

>>12429661
its going to pump to $20 easy

>>12428990
numbers say that you're wrong. they have way more people watching them than the traditional cable channels.

buy SQQQ

Even my fucking SurveyMonkey is up like 30%

I hope your ready for the Golden Bullrun Part 3 starting tommrow

don't buy memestocks when buffet is watching you

*sips*

>>12429661
Wrong. Bubbles is the best way to get growth.

>>12429754
tell that to the shitcoiners

>>12429754
mmm grayons

>>12429773
Even I was able to make gains off shitcoins, easiest trades ever
I put $100 into Ravencoin and sold the next day for $400, fucking EZ
Of course it was worth $4000 the next day, which makes me want to fucking kill myself because I could have paid off my damn car
Also rode the potcoin pump and dump when Dennis Rodman went on TV kek

>>12429773
shitcoiners are making money you retard.

>>12429744
>tfw Apple is the biggest memestock of all

>>12429728
do not buy SQQQ

>>12429744
reminder that the bottom came 4 days after you made this post

>>12428887
Holy shit that is scary. It's literally the exact same image. Should I liquidate on Monday morning? This rally is not sustainable looks like we will crash hard once we hit October lows.

>>12429806
>shitcoiners are making money you retard.

>>12428887
i don't mess with tech because it's just not my thing

but damn if this don't make me wanna buy puts lmao

>>12429826
im not going to turn this into a crypto discussion, but for the sake of economic discussion. there is no reason to deny that some people did make money off cryptocurrency, even if more people lost their money. all markets are fundamentally like this.

>>12429826
Look at current tech evaluations and tell us bubbles don't give explosive growth you absolute mong

>>12429856
>>12429858
>trying to get me to defend an argument I'm not trying to make

pass

>>12429744
>implying Buffet would buy companies at their all-time highs

>>12429670
>>12429661
it hasn't even started.. look at volume.. it's going to climb nicely while you sit on your hands...

>>12429869
Want to share a slice of pumpkin pie?

>>12429744
>wannabe buffet who talks down to other people while falling for the exact same psychological traps they do and pretending to be much more knowledgeable about the market than he actually is

sad

warren buffet

>>12429885
I don't want to ruin it for you, if I buy in it will certainly crash... but if I put in $800 I could have $1600.... :^)
>>12429903
Literally you

>>12429869
>>12429903
haha idiot

>>12429642
It hasn't been trending with the market much.

>>12429929
I've never claimed to be anything other than a novice

>>12429903
coke is worth $80 per share. Literally grabbing any of it now is a great deal.

here's a redpill:
bubbles = where the current liquidity are. You want to chase where the numbers are rising the fastest to capture the cutting-edge trends.

>>12429949
I do agree that KO is a good buy, and that dollar cost averaging over time will put you in the green in the long term either way

SSO AND QLD RISE UP

TAKE THE PATRICIANS MATHEMATICAL IDEAL LEVERAGE 2X LETS GO

>>12429945
Aww, you're so sweet. How goes the the search for a daddy bear bf?

>>12429661
It might pull back but not in a huge way without bad news. And the shorts haven't covered. It's a good stock to fomo into for now.

If it does dip I'm adding a few thousand more.

>>12429998
Don't fucking tempt me you dummy fag

>>12429642
a lot of times in market corrections people go shopping for discounted stock... LCI being one of them

Also.. not all stocks are perfectly insync with the market

>>12429998
I don't see a reason for it to tank significantly in the near term either, I'm just saying at least wait for that dip/consolidation to buy in

>>12430056
The overall sentiment this general has towards LCI at the moment is way too positive for me to want to buy in right now
It reeks of FOMO

>>12430065
>The overall sentiment this general has towards LCI at the moment is way too positive for me to want to buy in right now It reeks of FOMO
FOMO or not LCI is undervalued as fuck.. it has been for awhile.. shorts let their algo run them into a pickle.. unraveling a short position that size isn't going to happen overnight.. not to mention according to finviz the float went from 32million to now 27million.. Guy Gentile himself took around 3million out of the float is locking his shares up

The float is getting locked.. shorts are going to get squeezed hard!! Go ahead and sit on your hands while easy gains pass you by.. it'll be a good lesson for you...

>All this speculation
Citi earnings is going to decide the fate of the market.

>>12430110
FINE FUCK YOU I'LL BUY SOME TOMORROW KYS REEEEEEEE

>>12430113
Goldman earnings indicate things are turning bad https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/12/goldman-says-earnings-may-grow-just-3percent-this-year.html

>>12430148
oh boy

>>12430110
i'm willing to let that happen, if necessary
i'll be watching the coming weeks, it'll be a lesson either way

>>12430166
>goldman telling retail to short

could things be more bullish

>>12430170
One day you'll understand what a short squeeze is

>>12428795
>>12428807
>>12429648
The stock market as a whole is forming a bear trap right now. Look for bearish divergence and topping behavior before shorting and accumulate on the C leg of the ABC correction.

High risk and high testosterone people can play the bear trap. by buying partway in and hoping they get out in time.

Here's a little chart I'm making of Buffet holdings with good FA indicators
Data comes from finviz and gurufocus

>>12430252
It's "Buffett"

>>12430272
I like it better as Buffet because of the restaurant lol, like your eating gains

>>12430272
warren buffet

>>12430280
Buffets are for fat people and degenerates.

>>12429126
babu babu babu babu babu

>>12430252
Why the hell did he put money on ORCL?

how fucked am I?

>>12430405
if you don't know anything about those companies (I'm assuming you just bought them because you wanted to gamble on penny stocks), just lock in your gains now

>>12430405
You could only be more fucked if you were restrained on my bed.

>>12430420
so what you're saying is I should buy more RGSE? got it! thanks pendugay!

>>12430467
no problem

>>12430467
the 5 day RSI and MACD actually look pretty good on RGSE

Does anyone here make most of their income from trading stock or crypto? if so would anyone be interested in throwing down for a place in puerto rico??

Puerto rico act 20 and act 22 will mean you won't have to pay federal taxes on your capital gains or your dividends.. meaning you will pay zero taxes if you live there for more than half a year.. I've been looking for somewhere to move and i think that might be the place.. seriously.. if any of you are interested let me know...

https://www.doradobeach.com/real-estate-puerto-rico/act-20-22-tax-advantages

>>12430507
yeah but the downside is you'd be living in fucking puerto rico

>>12430507
Australia is probably trader capital of the world ATM because they have no capital gains on anything

>>12430507
will I be living in the ritz carlton? if so, I might agree to this

>>12430467
Do you have trailing stops? Might be a good idea to put some in. Or move them up yourself like a muggle.

>>12430542
DON'T EVER TELL ME WHAT TO DO!
I don't need advice from you, ok?

>>12430535
Australian here.

You fucking what mate? Capital gains tax applies to like everything, crypto included.

Read the ATO website on CGT and Crypto

I just double checked and this also seems to apply for shares. So there you go.

>>12430507
You may not pay federal income taxes, but the area also doesn't get the benefits allotted to states. There's little value in being rich in a poor country, as they say.

>>12430526
>yeah but the downside is you'd be living in fucking puerto rico
that doesn't bother me.. i spend a lot of time in mexico.. couldn't imagine it being much different.. as long as i got internet connection and a bar close by with a pool table..

>>12430535
>they have no capital gains on anything
even for U.S. citizens? puerto rico is zero capital gains as well.. i'm also a felon and can't really go to Australia which is kinda stupid since Australia is basically a bunch of ex cons or decedents of ex cons..

>>12430539
there are some nice places.. was looking to buy.. but then decided to just look at rentals.. some decent ones by the beach

Could probably rent something similar to this for a year just to see how it works out.. id easily have my half of rent covered.. if we get a few people to go in we could live real cheap for a couple years and pay zero in taxes then go our seperate ways

https://puertorico.craigslist.org/apa/d/rincon-the-oasis-1-2-bd-furnished-beach/6775529802.html?lang=en&cc=us

I live in california and everything is expensive as fuck not only in buying property but also renting.. plus taxes here suck... (although i hear puerto rico sales tax are a little high)

>>12430578
you only have to be there half the year.. you could always come back to main land here and there.... just a thought.. since it's zero taxes...

>>12430578
I disagree, being rich in thailand has been nothing but beneficial for all the expats I've met

Zizek was right, Trump was the communist accelerationist choice the whole time.

>>12430539
heres a 4 bedroom.. if we get a few people we would have cheap rent and zero taxes..

https://puertorico.craigslist.org/apa/d/linda-casa-paisajes-ciudad-jardin-gurabo/6776715072.html?lang=en&cc=us

>>12430599
Was just about to say a place like Thailand. It all depends on the country, but broadly speaking anon's correct, not much gain in being rich in say Africa.

>>12430564
holy crap am was tripping, need to lay off the drugs

>>12430647
>>12430599
>>12430578
it'd only be for a couple years until you build up some wealth..

Also.. i wouldn't mind being a wealthy person in a poor area...

>>12430626
based and free market pilled.

Stupid question,

On Robinhood it says for a 12$ Call with a 2.48 premium expiring jan 18th for SQQQ, the breakeven point is 14.48

But the price its traded at currently is 14.52? Couldn't I purchase the option and exercise my option and take the 14.48 - 14.52 difference right away?

>>12430634
that looks really nice, why is it so cheap

>>12430634
that ain't half bad
I'm interested..

>>12430691
because you're living in a shithole. have fun being rekt by hurricanes.

>>12430564
>I just double checked and this also seems to apply for shares. So there you go.
>On biz, presumably because he trades stocks/crypto
>had to double check tax laws
I swear half of us would be absolutely fucked in case of an audit

Limit buy order $6.70.

890 shares.

If this Chinese meme stock is going to break, it's going to break this week.

>>12430739
Forgot pic

>>12430714
>>12430691
if we got 4 people it wouldn't be much at all...

>>12430691
>that looks really nice, why is it so cheap
it's puerto rico... but i doubt it's that bad.. theres a lot of millionaires that move there so you'll have the very nice areas and then some ghetto areas.... the huricanes are a thing.. but if just renting.. who cares.. just move back to states if shit gets fucked up..

>>12430589
Puerto Rico does charge their own taxes you know; they're just lower than in the mainland. That and there are a number of situations where you may still have to file federal income taxes--It's best to clear that up with an actual tax advisor, though.

>>12430599
You're welcome to think that. If you can stomach the lowbrow local offerings, you may well enjoy it. Enjoying a similar degree of amenities as is readily available in wealthier countries is going to be more expensive and difficult to obtain. In Thailand, specifically, the amount earned above ~$125k is taxed at 37%; so you're not getting huge savings there.

>>12430507
>>12430634
Cool idea, but what if I don't know Spanish?

>>12430748
>living with people from this website
>living with people who use tripcodes

>>12430768
yea i wouldn't live with myself lmao

>>12430816
well actually.. i'm pretty sure nobody wants to live with you.. i'm guessing you have major problems and never clean up after yourself..

>>12430768
why not? I like being around people that want to better themselves and grow... many people on /biz/ care about their future.

>>12430762
Most places people know english.. also.. theres a lot mainland people that live in puerto rico..

>>12430751
i've listened to interviews with people.. says the only catch is higher sales tax..

>>12430849
>never clean up after yourself
I took it to the next level. I buy maidservice every 2 weeks to clean my house lmao. I don't even own any cleaning products or anything.

>>12430581
/smg/ mansion when? Also, what's your felony?

>>12430849
Interviews with people isn't really a good substitute for an actual tax advisor.

>>12430875
possession for sales of cocaine and heroin

possession of heroin

had a renting and maintaining a place for sales.. and about 3-4 other felonies that eventually got dropped.

>>12430888
it's with people that live in puerto rico and actually have the experience with dealing with it

>>12430053
clearly, I just dont watch LCI much and was curious how it correlates, gracias

>Invest only in index funds
>DCA every month
>Solid diversification across the globe

>Down 10%

Is this bad? I feel like everyone is getting returns of 5-10-20%.

Or maybe it's just because:

1) people lie about their performance
2) people don't post about their losses. Certainly, people who have decent returns are more eager to post their returns than people who've lost a lot.

Any guesses hkw low PCG is gonna go? Im guessing at least $8 at most $5

>Leaving the new memes and dreams calendar out of op
Well fuck you too

>>12431127
the people who got more gains took greater risks. In the long run you will probably be far ahead of the gamblers

>>12431127
It's because we're late cycle, so the market will do poorly until we crash and start to recover. You picked literally the worst time to go into index funds anon.

asia is green.

>>12431194
wrong. this is the beginning of huge growth in the future techs.

>>12431157
whats this

>>12431157
>>12431259
Someone made a new earnings calendar in the last thread
I was going to include it in my awesome vento aureo thread (there's a stand named Green Day in part 5 of Jojo's Bizarre Adventure), but you ruined it

https://calendar.google.com/calendar/embed?src=moonmissioncontrol2.0%40gmail.com

>>12430405
I just watched the china hustle and i'd say pretty fucked lol

>>12431127

Take a look at the charts for the indices and compare against the period of time you have been in the market. You'll see clearly why you're down 10%. Longs who are up since October most likely sold when initial supports broke and bought back in shortly before or after the most recent low. Traders have been working with the volatility as per usual and should be making gains if their strategy is worth a damn through a combination of flipping oversold bounces, trading the VIX and inverse index ETFs, trading options, and shorting.

Your strategy is historically proven to be solid. It's a long haul strat though, and you have to be patient for things to work their way back to the long term rising trend. Cost averaging on index funds, using DRIP or manually reinvesting your dividends, waiting for compound interest to really kick in etc, is a several years kinda process.

Wew just woke up from a nap and I can't believe I was going to buy LCI
I'll pass on the FOMO lmao

>>12431204
lol

>>12431393
Screenshot your own post. Print it out. Write stock price 7.77 on it and circle the date. Hang it in your wall.

Your wall of shame.

>>12431393
I've taken great comfort these last couple months with having very little idea what LCI is besides a generic biotech stock.

>bank earnings week
yeah it's gonna be red.
bulls are about to be btfo

>>12431440
>being comfortable with ignorance
can God himself dig a trench so large even he can't fill it with the bodies of commietrash?

>>12431450

I'm betting most of them will meet or exceed expected earnings.

>>12431440
they manufacture generic drugs (drugs that currently aren't owned by any company because their patent rights expired)

>>12431497
sure but they will lower guidance and it'll end up selling hard.

futures down bigly

it's over

>>12431524
I think he knows what fucking generic drugs are
>>12431406
>>12431440
LCI is an epic meme I'll be happy to watch from the sidelines

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>>12431582
Doesn't matter until C ER tbqh

>>12431582
>>12431615
They are going to short the bottom AGAIN lmaoooooo

Natural gas futures up 5%!!!

>>12431524
>drugs that currently aren't owned by any company because their patent rights expired)
sounds like you need to do a bit more research pendulum.. lots of catalyst for LCI coming...

OTC or Source Exchange?

Both have similiar fees for me.

>>12431650
They bought the bull trap AGAIN lmaoooooo

>>12431127
https://youtube.com/watch?v=u5Pp1HEKSPM

Cheapies on payday, alright.

>>12431972
>trusting that spic retard
lmao

>>12431998
Who said anything about trusting? Also,
>"spic"retard worth billions
>Some faggots on 4chan
Hmmmmm. He's absolutely right in that video though. If you would just take the time to listen.

>>12431651

Ooooh baby. It's not dropping from that massive gap up. Some of portfolio will almost certainly be red tomorrow but the newly 25% chunk dedicated to energy sector (as of last Thursday) is gonna be real green tomorrow if this holds up. Come on OPEC gimme the good stuff this month! Oil! Gas! Fracking! All of it go go go!

Hope y’all get in on Saex too

>>12432138
are you suggesting that wealth is a measure of intelligence?

>>12431972
Title does not match what he says. And Usually these people who hate "diversication" which is irrational thing to hate, have lost bunch of money and they want to see others repeat their stupid mistakes, also many are gamblers not investors

A quick google search "cuban lost money" aaaaand .... long behold we have results he lost big time betting some shady ICO just recently

Any chances that Nvda hits 200 in a year?

how much would i need to invest to live offmonthly divs?

>>12432460
how much do you need to live per year

>>12432460
Usually around 200,000 minimum.

>>12432356
Are you implying it isn't?

>>12432494
i know for certain that i have more money than you. based on that, are you willing to concede that i have superior intellect?

>>12432482
More like 500k-1mill. Whenever people ITT post about dividend investing I chuckle. Poorfags can't into dividend income.

>>12432514
Nah, you're just a fucking cock sucker come to my house bro I'll fuck you up, I'll have you know I'm a Navy seal.

>>12429998
Well meme'd.
Saved.

hey anons

I am from EU, can I register on robinhood on a fake address? I would be able to withdraw money after that? Do they required send an ID?

>>12432540

need a US SSN dumdum

>>12432516
Hence I said minimum, if you were eking it out in a small city in Mississippi you could probably make it with 11,000 in dividends.

>>12432572
>>12432540
this, you need an SSN to make a robinhood account
use Interactive Brokers or Degiro

>>12432620
Interactive Brokers > Degiro.
I heard Degiro is shit/slow, possibly crap UI, and the fees aren't competitive.

Interactive Brokers is what I'd switch to if I ever outgrew Robinhood.

>>12432612
No way. The highest *reliable* dividend yeild you can get regardless of capital amount is like 7-10%. You would have to be able to live off of 4k a year. You really must be a commie, your financial sense is terrible.

>>12432667
>And for the fifth consecutive year, Interactive Brokers was ranked Lowest Cost Broker by Barron's magazine.

>>12432667
Same here, IB would definitely be the broker I'd use if robinhood just stopped existing one day
IB seems phenomenal overall, for a variety of different reasons

>>12432708
so basically don't even bother with degiro right?

>>12432735
If you don't want to use IB for some reason, Degiro is also an option for Yuros
IB is much better, though, from what I can see

>>12432612
>>12432698
10% of 200,000 is 20,000 anon.

>>12432742
Well i wanna to pay the minimum amount i could with fees because well i'm already going to be paying 28% tax on capital gains plus 15% regarding int dividends...fuck this piece of shit country

>>12432781
What country are you from

>>12432773
You said you could live in Mississippi with an 11k dividends portfolio. Maybe I misunderstood. Also, 20k is poverty tier.

>>12432788
Portugal

>>12432799
No, the 11k is the dividends you'd get from a very modest 200k dividend portfolio. Yes, it's poverty no matter which way you cut it, but all anon said was "live", and that's the bare minimum required to sustain yourself on dividends alone.

>>12432828
>11k in a year
>live
ngl ive done it
not fun tho

>>12432698
>7-10%
That still sounds high.
The S&P's average yearly return is roughly 8.7%
Having dividends close to our beyond that shouldn't be sustainable -- if it was, people would buy the stock and inflate the price until the dividend yield (as a percentage of price) dropped below the S&P's growth rate.
On top of that being unsustainable, such high yields will most likely sacrifice long term growth, meaning that inflation will cut into your returns over time.

I think the optimal high dividend yield would be about 3% to 5%.
I think T is the most classic high dividend stock, but thanks to GE, it's obviously not a good idea to go all in on it.
Utilities companies otherwise are pretty popular and typical high dividend stocks

>>12432828
Just thinking about it. 200k is the amount of net worth someone needs to live in fucking poverty without being a wage slave...... 90% of people will never even see that amount of money in lump sum in their entire life time....... What the fuck I HATE capitalism now.

>>12432460
Depends on how much you're looking to make annually. I'd say around $1 million for a comfortable life also affording you the ability to reinvest some of your income so you can maintain the same real income after inflation.

>>12432881
swing trade until you make it, git gud then git divs

>>12432806
I don't know very much about Portugal, desu
I know that it's right next to Spain, that there are a lot of beaches, and that Brazilians speak Portuguese
A good portion of Americans have never left the US, Yurop may be a lot of different countries right next to each other, but Clapistan is so massive and that your options are either

>fly
>drive to Canada or Mexico (which would likely take a very long time if you don't live next to them)

>>12432781
>>12432806
I'd recommend just throwing all your shit into SPY (or maybe SSO) and HODLing if you just want to minimize fees.

How much cash do you have to invest? Have you invested in stocks before / what's your investment style?

>>12432881
but think
11k as passive leaves you with full on NEET life
but if you have any ambition at all (which u prolly do if u have 200k) then you have all the rest of the time to work some minor fake job or be a musician or some shit meme like that. and you can do that meme-lifestyle with a safety net.

i assume a lot of people here want a lot more than that and thats fine, but 11k a year fr doing literally nothing aint bad any way you slice it imo

>>12432917
Literally my exact plan. It's the only way.

>>12432922
If you want a leveraged ETF, QLD is the most patrician

>>12432867
There's plenty of decent preferred stock issues out there yielding 7-10%. You don't really get capital appreciation with it, though. Also, your dividends on common stock can increase over time--If I recall right, Warren Buffett has an annual yield of over 100% on his Coke shares based on the price he bought at and the current dividend. Even adjusting for inflation, it's very high because companies in general have increased their dividends over time at a greater rate than inflation.

>>12432927
Like 2 scoops mentioned though. A 10% yield isn't really feasible. POSSIBLE? Yes. Also consider that you wouldn't be compounding the divis since they're your livelyhood.

>>12432928
>not making a memfolio that exists entirely out of derivatives
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>>12432944
>QLD
>Leveraged NASDAQ
>QQQ
>Literally 10% AMZN
>Yeah, let's go all in on that
>Literally 10% leveraged AMZN
Don't get me wrong; I'm about 1/3 QLD right now. But, if the other guy has an uncomfortably large amount of cash to invest, like, say 200k, then no, do not /all in/ on 10% leveraged AMZN

well, well, well looks like your manipulation and good luck has finally run out bulls. I expect a minimum -1000 tomorrow on the stocks market

>>12432922
lol with the EU i can't even buy SPY i have to buy UCITS ETFs but if i were to invest right now i would buy accumulating etfs on SP500 that we have here so i wouldn't have to pay the 43% tax on divs. But at the moment since i don't really have a lot of cash plus i'm a bit bearish on the stock market i'm not really investing right now.
>>12432918
Yeah i know we're quite an irrelevant country. I still really like it but since we have a really terrible economy and a fucking shit political atmosphere so i wanna move the fuck out after i'm done with college. Preferably to the US or Luxembourg

>>12432881
It's a raw deal. This is why we struggle. Some people simply accept their misery until they perish. Even if I make it, I don't think I could accept just living the life of a capitalist. I'd throw almost everything towards toppling this system.

>>12432917
>>12432928
Swing trading is pretty much a gamble. Here's a better strategy perhaps.

>>12432973
>not able to upload costanza.txt
GAY AS FUCK

>>12432963
depends on your goal desu
compounding divs? you gotta have a 9-5 and put stuff away to save

free memelife with minimal effort but no long term goal? div income folio and fuck off and do whatever u want

>>12432958
People need to stop using Warren Buffet as an example. He was a turbo Boomer who bought the literal absolute bottom of the entire market. Doing what he did in today's market is basically impossible.

>>12432944
>QQQ
>heavily weighted in large-cap tech stocks

not my style, thanks
i'd rather buy SSO

>>12431291
Okay
Talked with Upper Management

We'll allow your gay jojo thread with new memes and earrings calenderp

>>12432973
>That post
Lol. All jokes aside though, derivatives are for trading/speculation. Not investments. You must be one of the trolls who shills TQQQ as an actual long hold.

>>12432991
>Luxembourg
I've been hearing this country come up a lot lately. What's the deal with Luxembourg? Why's it so great?

>>12433001
Considering his bets on apple, I think he'll probably get raped in the next crash.

Also his market capitalization to GDP ratio bs is such a meme.

>>12433001
exactly i stopped listening to warren buffet a while ago desu

listen to baron von wuffet or ur never gonna make it in this market senpaitachi

if you think that this is amazon's peak. then you're wrong. bezos just divorced from his wife to double down on his autism.

>>12432977
>>12433002
Lmao stay poor you faggots

>>12432998
>inversion bonds
>inversion cash
>better deal than the S&P since 1920
Wtf are you getting your charts from?
Also, wtf even are inversion bonds?

>>12433039
based and qqqpilled

>>12433015
>id SMG

>>12433021
Really good wages, Luxembourg has the highest average salary in the world, and since it's in the EU i wouldn't have to get a visa i can just move there. plus like 20% of the country is Portuguese. But i really would rather go to the US since i also have family there

>>12433047
I made that chart myself in R. Inversion bonds or cash isn't an asset, but a strategy. Every time the yield curve inverts you sell your equities and put then in a safe-haven asset for a set amount of years, in this case, bonds and cash for 3 years.

>>12433049
They don't understand the new tech moonshot we're entering.
2scoops fucking works for amazon, but still is too stupid to see it.
Golden Bull NOW
Robot sex slave waifus NOW

>>12433061
But what about false flag inversion like in 1998?

>>12433024
That image gets me everytime

>>12433017
normally ™ bypasses spam filters desu
the power of costanza.txt cannot be understated

>>12433052
imma give it to u str8, as a hardline /int/ellectual who loves europe and europeans

as a dude in portugal, your gonna wanna run as fast as you can out of there no matter what, and soon. i have a VERY bad feeling about whats about to happen to the eurozone financial sector. and it could come sooner than expected due to unrest in france (imo)

basically anywhere that isnt one of the so called "PIGS" cunts. those are gonna get hammered like you wouldnt believe if the EU goes tits up

>>12433015
>tfw a n*ruto watcher has the audacity to call jojo gay

>>12433001
Buying a high quality stock at a relatively low price, then holding it for decades while they increased the dividends every year is impossible? There's been numerous times to buy things like Proctor & Gamble and Wells Fargo in just the past few years, but you wouldn't hear about it here because the share price is above $0.00001.

Obviously that's not all he did; he used to engage in arbitrage opportunities and sell covered calls, too. Both of those are still possible in some form (but only statistical, volatility, and merger arbitrage are possible for non-HFTs these days).

Citibank is going to moon tommrow and theres nothing you assholes can do about it

>>12433092
jojo IS quite literally a homosexual anime
meanwhile naruto falls under the distinction of "cuckime"
the cuckime menace is dangerous to all of us and in fact a psyop that the bogs are behind

N I O, the only stock to buy if you want a chance of making it.

>>12433114
>buying chinkshit
*dabs aggressively in ur direction*

>>12433091
I know man the EU's economy is really bad my god the EURIBOR is still negative after like 9 years since the great recession. I really have to gtfo since i'm living in one of the PIGS but i wanna at least finish my master's in finance and immediately leave. Whenever the next economic recession comes, the EU will not survive. In the current economic boom the EU is still struggling imagine with another recession...

>>12433077
the model was only using 2 and 10 year bond yield inversions, the one in 1998 was only between the 3 month and 5 year. That said there was a false signal in the late 60s I did take into account. It does do damage because of capital gains tax, but overall, it seems to be better to be safe than sorry. Hence I'm playing a defensive portfolio even though the yield curve only inverted from 1 year to 7 years. I still beat the market for 2018 so I feel fine.

here's the same graph but with a log scale.

>ES overnight prob goes down another handle
>this weeks down
>following 2 weeks flat to down

>>12433110
>>12433092
Ya'll should be watching Durarara!! instead. Absolute Kino.

>>12433100
Listen, I hate to break it to you, but infinite growth is a meme. See: GE.

>futures

200
PERCENT
DEMORALIZED

>>12433152
Durarara!! is a solid show, but LOGH is the peak of anime kino, no matter what contrarians on /a/ may say

>>12433161
I see the discussion is too highbrow for you. I'm definitely not going to waste my time.

>>12433152
>>12433110
>>12433092
You're all fuckin' wrong. Kaiji is the official /smg/ anime. All other nip animations are sub optimal to our cause.

>>12433130
According to the fed of st louis the spread between 2y and 10y in june 1998 was -0.05 but it went back up the next couple of months. I really like this timing strat of yours (much better than using MA200 that i was thinking of using) but my problem is if i here to apply it in 1998 and bought back in 2001 i would have lost a ton of money since the bottom was only in 2002/2003, so how would i were to distinguish between a false flag inversion and a real one?

>>12433181
>LOL UR STUPID
Nice counter argument, fuckboi. My point still stands. Infinite growth in a finite world CANNOT exist.

just buy puts all week this week and you'll make money. it's not hard.

>>12433129
>but i wanna at least finish my master's in finance and immediately leave.
yea that sounds unironically baste and redpilt
especially since that same education stateside would leave you in crippling debt
stick to that plan tho (finish then leave ASAP) or youre gonna get greece'D

>Whenever the next economic recession comes, the EU will not survive. In the current economic boom the EU is still struggling imagine with another recession...
i know
meanwhile, this is when EU bans DONT have all the red tape that burger banks have post dodd frank. theyre still massively overleveraged and havent recovered at ALL (cough cough DB cough)

combine that with all the civil unrest and this supposed bank run that could start as soon as tomorrow. and all the various demographics with growing resentment.
ive said it before: europe has a knack for turning into bloodshed absolutely overnight. i think we are closer now to such an outburst than the whole last century. especially given the added tension of not only internal problems in each particular country, but a EU-wide tension from every country together. add in demographic problems and racial tensions too and you got a bloodbath. i dont wanna see it at all since i have tons of friends over there, but unless you wanna get caught up in some serious shit, its time to head for open waters imo

>>12433152
>>12433170
>>12433190
LOGH is baste desu senpaitachi
only "newer" animu ive watched and enjoyed is lain tho

$IBM long http://fortune.com/2019/01/07/ibm-tops-2018-patent-list-as-ai-and-quantum-computing-gain-prominence/

>>12433217
LOGH is dinosaur kino though. You must be talking about the remake.

>>12433203
youre forgetting that this was LITERALLY the plan.
keynes is a stupid nigger and damned us all to poverty and death via infinite inflation

>>12433207
Wasn't there a screencap posted yesterday of a guy that lost ~$50k buying a bunch of puts on SPY?

>>12433207
wrong. buy calls and you'll make money. it's not hard.

>>12433217
Well even if the economy fails and the EU collapses i'm quite sure my country would still be quite peaceful, just a lot poorer. We haven't had a war in our territory since the 1820s and if we survived the unrest and commies coups during the 70s i think we can survive an economic collapse. Plus the Portuguese people are very tame for a lack of a better word.

what is everyone drinking tonight?

>>12433273
i'm taking xanax.. you look like a goober... but id probably kick it with you...

>>12433200
Hmm, I might have missed it when setting up my model. Here are the dates I used: 1929.01 1967.01 1974.01 1978.11 1980.10 2000.03 2006.02

I would consider the inversion in 2000 as a separate inversion that you would want to stay defensive for. The issue is that the code I used for my model doesn't work when periods after a yield inversion overlap. That said, stocks were actually lower in March of 2000 than in June of 1998 so if anything this would mean higher gains if you were in bonds that whole time and didn't pull out.

>>12433231
i only really go for the older animemes desu
just cant get into any newer stuffs
like the animation is "nice", but i dig the 80s style
prolly just nostalgia, but what can i say, im picky. just cant into 90% of whats put out nowadays

>>12433268
true. portugal is probably the last place thats gonna end up in death and destruction. yall will be too busy being solemn and staring at the sea.

still.
having a masters in finnce an having all of your wealth evaporate doesnt sound too fun

>>12433061
>I made that chart myself in R. Inversion bonds or cash isn't an asset, but a strategy.
>Every time the yield curve inverts you sell your equities and put then in a safe-haven asset for a set amount of years, in this case, bonds and cash for 3 years.
Okay, pretty solid.
>Every time the yield curve inverts
Which part? The 10yr-2yr spread?

Preddy gud, gommie faggot. You did good work.

>>12433217
>>12433170
>>12433152
peons
the best Anime/Manga of all time is called Fruits Basket
heh but what do you guys know anyway

>>12433207
>>12433247
*Ahem* buy calls AND puts and you're guaranteed to make money

>>12433306
im not an /a/utist desu
its not my specialty and i have admittedly "poor" taste on such things

>>12433273
My own tears. The only drink for real men. Also, who the fuck are you and please go back to whatever fucking subreddit you came from.

>>12433304
Ty fren!

And yes, this is the 10yr to 2yr spread. However, since the 2 year bond didn't exist before the great depression I actually used 1 year commercial interest rates for that one. Basically same methodology as here: https://dqydj.com/long-run-yield-curve-inversions-illustrated-1871-2018/

>>12433321
/a/ hates it. Says its for teenage girls, but they dont understand

>>12433334
what do they hate Princess Tutu too!?

>>12433273
This is pendulum, no?

>>12433273
Do you do black tar heroin

>>12433334
>Implying teenage girls watch anime
Then again, I've come to expect such retardation from that lot. Bested only by /smg/.

>>12433307
except for if vol goes down

>>12433334
>/a/
desu i havent been on or even looked at this /a/ in ages
i only trust /AM/ nowadays, and even then, the last few animes they shilled at me i just couldnt get into

>>12433343
i remember some weird crackhead sold me "opium" before, and it was just black tar. bretty fun ngl

shitty habit tho

>>12433349
My 16 yr old sister watches anime, she prefers cooking and sports ones, although she really enjoyed Drrr when I showed it to her.

>>12433338
i dont think so

>>12433306
Not true nik-nik, the best anime ever made is Akikan! (2009). I wouldn’t expect most people here to know about that hidden gem.
Also I’m scared of a retrace down tomorrow

>>12433365
>My 16 yr old sister watches anime
is she fat?

>>12433357
oh hey teh profit

>>12433349
I mean technically it is a lightnovel targeted towards teenage girls, called Shojo. Im not gay or anything dude, Its simply the best story ever written and gets 0 attention probably because of the label

>>12433283
thanks
>>12433331
I came from r/pennystocks
I'm staying here tho...
>>12433338
I don't like anime..or tranny porn
>>12433343
no

>>12433283
what drugs do you do and whats your favorite drug?

>>12433381
>>12433365
I was just about to say his sister must be a hamplanet

>>12433297
Yeah you're right but if i were to wait the whole 3 years in the first inversion and invested in the market i would have lost a bit in 2001-2002. Maybe we should only consider alarming inversions if they last more than a month? Don't really know of a way to know if it's the actual bottom.
>>12433298
Yeah especially considering we have our wealth tied to the most memest of currencies, the fucking Euro. Wow let's make all of europe (like fucking GREEECE) use the deutsch mark, that sounds like a great plan! fuck this continent when it comes to economics and politics

What are some meme fuck stocks that get hit hard when the economy and Dow is crashing?? I dont have enough money to put a put in on netflix as im tied up in crypto that im too iron handed to touch.

Overall im bearish on the markets. Futures look bad and the government is accomplishing nothing. Short netflix after earnings.

>>12433383
whomst is that?

>>12433391
>I came from r/pennystocks

>>>/out/

>>12433091
>>12433129
What is PIGS?
Portugal, Italy, Germany, Spain?
Why this acronym? What's special about those countries?

>>12433130
>the model was only using 2 and 10 year bond yield inversions
Based and redpilled.
Where'd you get your data from?
1920 is pretty far back for data.
Stooq is pretty good.

>>12433332
Ebin.
I like you now.
Commies are alright, as long as they've got solid data.

>>12433401
you can't time the market.

>>12433381
>>12433397
Nah she's actually really cute, tho I guess she was not quite in as great shape year or so ago when she was more into it but I don't think she lost more than 10 pounds max. I think anime is way more mainstream with gen z.

>>12433409
yes
i think ireland is considered one too
>What's special about those countries?
theyre all economic achilles heels

>>12433401
>fuck this continent when it comes to economics and politics
yurop in a nutshell, sadly

>>12433406
>Proud 5% shareholder in uvxy
Fuckign kek

>>12433416
I showed my zoomer cousin lucky star and he thought it hilarious

This is why Netflix will go to $1000 per share. Sorry not sorry! Sell T

Watch Full Metal Alchemist
Nina gets yeeted on
Hughes Dies

Watch Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood
Hughes dies again and Nina gets dabbed on

Why do I do this to myself? Dying inside at this anime funeral scene with Alicia, breh :(

>>12433423
This. Ireland was part of our little group of shit but they managed to bounce back and are doing great nowadays. We're all very weak countries economically and we have a ton of gov debt and we're using the same currency as france and germany so basically a recipe for disaster

>>12433425
*UVXY inc

>>12433407
make me leave pussy nigga

>>12433413
>you can't time the market.
Unless you have good data (and you actually use it properly)

>>12433423
>>What's special about those countries?
>theyre all economic achilles heels
>>fuck this continent when it comes to economics and politics
>yurop in a nutshell, sadly
Wtf.
As in weak national economies or defy macroeconomics?
I'm looking this shit up.

>>12430738
I was actually already pretty sure, as I used to work in the field (years ago) but double checked as I don't trade shares, just Crypto and wanted to be sure.

I'm clean on audits

>>12433416
>Nah she's actually really cute
Wanna know how I know your an oreimo fan.....

>>12433394
just cocaine, booze, xanax, and sometimes weed...

>>12433391
>I came from r/pennystocks
woah bro.. you sure you are in the right place?
You shouldn't let everyone know how much of a faggot you are right away. posting with a trip and face posting when you are this new... should've known it was a reddit poster

>I don't like anime..or tranny porn
I don't either.. but you better get used to it.. all these fags do around here

>>12433437
>We're all very weak countries economically and we have a ton of gov debt and we're using the same currency as france and germany so basically a recipe for disaster
i literally cannot even imagine wtf they were thinking/smoking when they thought this up
any idiot with ANY grounding in how2economy knows this is a recipe for disaster

>>12433401
Well it's ok if you miss the exact bottom so long as you get in before you get back up to where you left the market. I do think that as a rule of thumb, when you're actively managing these things, to wait a full year after the start of the crash to invest to let things settle and even start to recover if possible. The three years only works so well in the model because the average time between inversion is between 6 months and 2 years, so that 1 year later things have gotten to the point you're not trying to catch a falling knife.

>>12433441
Dear redditor, we say nigger here
now please leave

>>12433403
US car makers

>>12433441
we literally cant
this site hath become reddit
we cant even spam horrible shit at redditors to get you to leave

hiro WANTS you here, and thats whats gonna happen

here tho
have some BUGS

>>12433428
Netflix to go bust by 2020

Screencap this

>>12433444

>>12433444
2/2

>>12433455
I understand why they did it, it was one of the first steps to federalize. If we had the same currency it would be easier to unite all of eu countries into one federalized state but it was and is a disaster. They should have never allowed any of the PIGS countries to use such a stable and strong currency. but jokes on them its all going to blow in their fucking faces in the near future

>>12433409
>Where'd you get your data from?
Got the data from here: http://www.econ.yale.edu/~shiller/data.htm
Lots of useful stuff. It actually goes back to 1870 but I felt there were too many qualitative changes to our economic system for this to work pre-Fed.

>>12433447
Nah that shit was annoying. you do know there's plenty of incest in Durarara!! right? pic related

>>12433391
<_<
the anime girl being strangled in OP was supposed for scare you guys away

>>12433441
>make me leave pussy nigga
you might just want to leave yourself.. you have no idea what this site will do to you..

>>12433469
Don't worry, that kid doesn't even know what he just walked into. He'll be gone in a month after he looses all of his money.
>>12433441
Listen, buy LCI and listen to everything LCI guy says. You'll be rich.

>>12433407
How do I short your browsing history?

So I've been trying to find a solid gas company since I'm paying $18 to fill up my tank in my car, gas prices are ridiculously low rn so yaknow you just know this shit gonna go back up like gas and oil always do.

Found a few, but one called Kinder Morgan sticks out to me. Anyone know anything about it?

>>12433471
PROTIP:
keep an eye on those cunts. they are the weakest links in the chain. they will lead europe on the wy down. that should be your leading indicator for when shit is about to hit the fan

also tho, keep an eye on france
intl MSM and US MSM especially has been blacking it out since like week 3 but things are really heating up. i think france could be a catalyst if they get to the point where leaving the EU is the only option (its the only way i see it going if they cant totally subvert this protest (they cant))

why do you guys say the n word all the time?
makes no sense...I mean you would never say it to a black G-d in real life so why say it here?

>>12433478
>unite all of eu countries
their first mistake imo

>>12433498
I say nigger in real life. You don't? Sad!

>>12433492
you can't, sadly

Futures getting ugly.

Everyone back to their safehaven investments (weed stocks)

>>12433498
N

>>12433491
no thanks I'll just keep buying MNGA

>>12433504
imo if the EU would revert back to a EFTA or a EEA free trade area without a shit parliment or currency i think it would be fine

>>12433518
>>12433518
>>12433518
NEW THREAD

>>12433471
>>12433474
>>12433423
they made a fancy acronym for southern europe? honestly all you got to know about the EU is that the relationship between north and south is almost the same as between north and south america. especially when it comes to debt crisis.

>>12433509
I bet it's loaded with kink stuff...

>>12433470
Why.
They're profitable and people will keep paying for their subscription.

>>12433481
Dank.

>>12433511
down 30 points,
260 has been rejected 4 times now

we going back to 230

>>12433498
nigger. I have black friends and they don't fucking care if i say nigga

>>12433493
GBR for a long term investment until RAI starts doing something with it... they bought like 3 million restricted shares at 1.50 that will be subject to rule144 so they won't be able to dump anytime soon.....

Also check out DNR.. don't know much about it but I have some friends that seem to be getting interested in it for some reason

Speculate on SN.. they have a high short interest and the market cap is very very low so anything could happen with a quickness

speculation on MNGA because there seems to be a lot of pumpers around it...

CEI if they have gotten their shit together.. last i remember they sold off some assets to pay off some debts... lets see how that turns out for them.. could be interesting.

>>12433513
Buy some LCI....

>>12433498
>Shitposting this hard
I see you're a rusemaster.

>>12433528
the futures are going red now, so that we'll have a green week.

honestally cant believe people actually accepted this OP of anime girl being strangled

its literally guro hentei

>tfw shorted the bottom and lost a year of gains
>tfw youre ready to do the same on monday
WHO HERE READY TO GET NIGGER FUKCED

>>12433498
>why do you guys say the n word all the time?
because we hate niggers like you because your demographic and posting style is poison and dilutes everything that imageboards are and stand for. imageboards are about contrarianism taken to an unhealthy degree. theyre also about lack of moderation and freedom of speech. as more of your nigger friends come over, the site is gradually turned to cater to your needs. the needs of someone who requires heavyhanded moderation and consensus to exist. this in turn causes most imageboard dwellers to leave because we dont like reddit or anything you faggots stand for, increasing this dilutive effect

THATS the problem. nothin personnel kid
also
PROTIP: never willingly admit youre from reddit, an absolutely NEVER let anyone here know something about you that they can make fun of (like your mugshot you just posted) or anything that youre insecure of.

>>12433550
fucking kys yourself

>>12433550
you must be new here

>>12433190
If kaiji is your favorite, try akagi. 1 step further.