/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>12338288
Go to Somalia to enjoy that sweet capitalism, bucko. Literally every developed nation is social-democrat. Go back to your containement board

>>12338349
Not everyone is cuck enough to enjoy spending 6 Months a year working for Abduls welfare money, nerd.

>>12338456
Abduls and Tyrones are neccesary when whiteys don't want to work. They are all consuming videogames and watching cuck porn.

>>12338493
Abdul's and Tyrones were never necessary. If they all vanished from the earth tomorrow it would be a better place. An argument that could be supported on multiple levels. From crime, to economic, to social cohesion perspectives.

I don't mind niggers on welfare, that's peanuts, what really pisses me off is politicians and bureaucrats living like kings off other people's money.

>paying taxes

>>12338288
>How do you deal with the fact that half of your income goes to a bunch of lazy brown people that leech of welfare?
I deal with it by joining them in Leeching
>get welfare from government
>sell weed to friends
>move money into cryptocurrency
>when made it move to somewhere else

>>12338349
>somalia
>capitalism

How are people so retarded allowed to live?

>>12338349
Also

>thinking socialism is the same thing as being a social democrat

These are the shit eating retards giving you financial advice on /biz/

>>12338542
I don't see any onions white farming or fabric. Only minorities are strong enough to make that jobs.

>>12338288
>Half income
By knowing it doesn't.

>>12338349
Somalia literally survives off of gibs in the form of international aid.

>>12338600
>libtards: we need universal basic income because robots are going to take all the jobs!
>also libtards: we need open borders and mass third world immigration to keep the capitalist ponzi scheme going

hmmmmmm

>>12338600
Nice try Ajeesh but learn English before trying to fit in with us.

>>12338288
yes anon, only brown people get aid

>>12338734
>you: the reason why this shit is happening is because of poor people fleeing their shitty situation and NOT because corporations and the Wealthy hording more and more wealth. At no other time, has wealth disparity been this huge.

But you would rather blame people that look different from you because you operate on the level of a fucking animal.

>>12338556
Military Industrial Complex and oil lobbies get more in taxsidies (subsidies payed for by the tax payer)

>>12339215
*than anyone else

>>12339215
Id rather spend a billion dollars on tanks than a single dollar on food stamps

>>12338288
>half of your income
After deductions and stuff, it is actually just 20%
And included in these 20% is health insurance. So I consider myself quite rich.

>>12339374
>>12339374
this is not including:
>mandatory health care (scales with income)
>mandatory unemployment insurance (scales with income)
>mandatory disability insurance (scales with income)
>church tax (scales with income)
>solidarity tax (if youre in the west) (scales with income)

Oh and theres a 20% sales tax and a 60% tax on gas. Enjoy. And fuck you for making more money than Ahmed who leeches of welfare, you capitalistic swine!

>>12338288
>half

yeah, you don't pay taxes kiddo. Stay in /pol/ and post about memes, that's more your speed.

>>12339322
Congrats for being a complete retard I guess? Never do anything half cocked

>>12338288
Put money into an IRA to lower your taxable income while saving for retirement.

>>12339444
>mandatory health care (scales with income)
Actually included in these 20%

>mandatory unemployment insurance (scales with income)
Actually included in these 20%

>mandatory disability insurance (scales with income)
Actually included in these 20%
But I have a private insurance against disability myself for a couple of bucks (which is also c-o-m-p-l-e-t-e-l-y tax deductible and pays into a pension fond).

>church tax (scales with income)
Which I am not paying, because I am not a believer.

>solidarity tax (if youre in the west) (scales with income)
Anyone has to pay it, not just those in the west.
Also, it is deductible - no or very low payroll tax equals low or neglectible solidarity tax.

>20% sales tax
Actually 19%, which is average for a developed country.

>60% tax on gas
Company cars are a godsend gift.
If you actually have the education to be worth having one.


Has to suck for you to not know your stuff around taxes, buddy.

>>12338288
Im ok with it because all you guys are funny

>>12339562
How do I get a Green Card?

>>12339115
Keep making up my arguments for me you stupid bitch, because you lack the frontal lobe activity to actually engage in a proper discussion.

At what point did I say I supported the multi billion dollar crony capitalist kikes? They're the ones pushing for middle east interventionism and driving the refugee crisis for the military industrial complex stupid fuck.

And yeah I hate the rapefugees too. They are a political tool used by neoliberals.

But go ahead you fucking animal - actually try to explain away the disconnect I pointed out in my post between 'all jobs are disappearing due to automation, and we need open borders because I don't want to pay more than $1.50 for a pound of tomatoes'. You can't and you won't, because you are stupid.

>>12338584
Because most of these retards were educated in liberal marxist institutions. These absolute morons have no concept of the real world.

>>12338288
>50%
Nigger what?

My taxes are about 20% & only around 5% of that goes to welfare.

Just keep making shit up dumbass

>>12339626
And thus represents the failure of western democracy. Hoards of sub 85 IQ vermin being led around the nose ring by 100 IQ smarty pants psueds who enjoy repeating utter bullshit with an air of authority because no one on reddit ever calls them out for it.

>>12338288
>half of your income
Ask me how I know you aren't old enough to pay taxes.

>>12339629
see >>12339444

>>12339322
Tough shit nigger, how's it feel to want?

>>12339594
Setting intelligence apart: if you have a greencard but do not make enough money to evade taxes the legal way in Germany, you sure as hell wont make enough money to evade taxes the legal way in the US.

>>12339684
Wew lad

>>12339472
>Put money into an IRA
free ireland when?

>>12339752
>>12339779
I have a Masters Degree and 4 years of experience in technical constructions. My net pay comes out as 22k a year. Im so fucking tired of leftists on TV demanding more of my income "because its fair". Im serious now, how do I move to the US?

>>12338288
Shitskin welfare is a meme. The US has terrible gibs.

>>12339814
Hahaha you impoverished faggot, I never finished college & make 5x as much as you.
Please stay in your 3rd world country, I wouldn't want my taxes going up taking care of any more poverty stricken pooskins like you

>>12339891
Thats impossible.Most people make minimum wage. If you dropped out you almost certainly make less than 10 bucks an hour

>>12338564
>he works
>he pays taxes
top cucks

>>12340036
Not impossible, I'm a .NET software developer. No one makes less than $100k in my Dept besides the Jr devs.
Not my fault you picked a dead end minimum wage career path.

>>12339814
>how do I move to the US?
See >>12339752

If you cannot legally circumvent or considerably lower taxes in Germany, what makes you so sure to be able to do it in the US?

Also for fucks sake, no wonder you whine about taxes, if you let yourself getting robbed by your employer every day - get yourself an actual job. Get off /pol and get your life together, before you cry about "muh taxes", "muh socialists" or "muh rapefugees" in the first place.

Scheiße Mann - ein Master in Maschinenbau mit 4 Jahren Erfahrung begnügt sich mit 42 brutto. Bei so viel Beta vergesse ich sogar mein Englisch.
100% selbst verschuldetes Elend, du Lappen!

>>12338288
>not wanting free everything
not today boomers! Begone!

>Are there any guides on avoiding taxes? Both legal and illegal are welcome.

Just don't live in a country.

>>12340224
I would never truely abondon the fatherland. No matter if they tax me 99%.

>>12338584
Every country in the planet except primitive tribes is capitalist retard. Yes even north Korea.

Division of labor, 2 classes of people (owners, workers), circulation of goods=capitalism.

>>12339619
since the other guy will not reply anymore, let me give you a response.

>because you lack the frontal lobe activity to actually engage in a proper discussion
nice

>>12340703
Thanks friend, someone gotta put brainlets on blast.

>if you don't want refugees you must love the people sending them here

>>12338542
>to social cohesion perspectives.

Yeah we can all become the exact same person.

>>12338288
You compartmentalize your life into an S-Corp and expense everything.

>>12338349
>let me use terms and labels in the wrong way and hope no one discovers how stupid I am

Vibe is releasing a FPS game on Jan 12th. It looks amazing. Not many people know about it yet. Binance & Vibe marketing campaign starting early Jan. Down 96% from ATH. Get in quick

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqSL-_zetzI

>>12342014
>because that's what he's saying

Damn what's with the fucking retards here lately? Seems more common the last month or two.

>>12338349
Somalia is the product of socialism you fucking mong

I will never understand the mind of a socialist. I can't understand why they want to help subhumans so much. They are dumb, come from a shitty culture and can't integrate in civilised cultures. The situation in their countries isn't our fault and they certainly aren't our responsibility.

>>12342946
god dammit can we just cut off the fucking gibs? even white people on welfare are scum

>>12338288
Vibe is releasing a FPS game on Jan 12th. It looks amazing. Not many people know about it yet. Binance & Vibe marketing campaign will start early Jan. Vibe is down 96% from ATH. Koreans are aggressively accumulating. Get in quick

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqSL-_zetzI

>>12338556
Welfare in all of its forms is like 60-70% of gov budget. Military budget is nothing compared to this. Politicians pay is nothing compared to this.

When the system collapses we need to design the new system so that only net-taxpayers vote. This system was doomed when we gave the voting rights to leeches.

>>12343794
Military spending in the US is a form of welfare

>>12340425
>redefines terms
>thinks he won the argument

Capitalism is an economic system based on the private ownership of the means of production and their operation for profit. Characteristics central to capitalism include private property, capital accumulation, wage labor, voluntary exchange, a price system, and competitive markets.

I don't think there is much voluntary exchange or private property in North Korea, maybe a little in the shadows, outside the governments "all seeing" eye. But the government owns every "means of production" that matters.

One characteristic of capitalism is economic freedom. In some countries even though private citizens may own a company in name, the state regulates and taxes the hell out of those companies. So does the private citizen really own it if he doesn't have any say in how things are run or doesn't get any real profit after taxes?

>>12338288
i just leech too, easy.

>>12338288
>50% tax rate
>implying all welfare recipients are moochers
>implying all of that 50% tax is going to moochers
Pic related, OP as of writing this post

>>12343957
This might sound like a good idea in the short term, but in the long term it is fucking stupid.

Gov welfare is unsustainable so your leeching days will end soon. You will have a huge gap in your resume, will be behind peers in both experience and asset accumulation, and your personality will change for the worse.
Also, stealing is wrong, mmmmmmkay?

just move to puerto rico. no income tax.