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the legendary Golden Bull edition

>I'm new to the stock market, what stocks should I buy?
Before you buy anything, make a brokerage account and read investopedia articles and/or the books in the OP list. If you don't have a broker, you can't buy stocks, Pendulum is the king of cope, and if you blindly buy things without understanding how the stock market works or doing any research on the individual stocks you're buying, you will lose money and it will be entirely your fault.

List of popular brokers:
https://pastebin.com/mrSchZPg

List of basic stock market terminology for newfags:
https://pastebin.com/VtnpN5iJ

Real-time market news:
https://thefly.com/index.php

Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain

Free in depth technical analysis charts:
http://www.tradingview.com

Premarket Data:
https://pastebin.com/y9PRQLR3

Earnings Report Calendars:
https://biz.yahoo.com/research/earncal/today.html
https://www.earningswhispers.com/calendar

Pump and Dump Advertising:
https://stocktwits.com

S&P 500 VIX Futures (For SVXY/UVXY, higher is better for UVXY, lower is better for SVXY)
https://www.investing.com/indices/us-spx-vix-futures

Basic rundown on lean hogs:
http://www.theoptionsguide.com/lean-hogs-futures-buying.aspx

Suggested books:
https://pastebin.com/jgA5zTuC

Previous thread:
>>12332238

>> No.12336555
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THREADLY REMINDER THAT DIVIDENDS ARE YOUR FREN

>> No.12336564

FAKE AND GAY MARKET FAKE AND GAY MARKET FAKE AND GAY MARKET FAKE AND GAY MARKET FAKE AND GAY MARKET FAKE AND GAY MARKET FAKE AND GAY MARKET FAKE AND GAY MARKET FAKE AND GAY MARKET FAKE AND GAY MARKET

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>> No.12336575

yeah, im thinking we are back

>> No.12336582

Where do you find the important dates like today job report?

>> No.12336586

>>12336564
of course it's fake and gay. join us fucking the bears.

>> No.12336588

why are there two threads?

>> No.12336597

>>12336582
https://www.marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendars/economic

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Bought AMD and 1/25 $16.5 on market open. NVAX is decent but isn't pumping like I would like on the news. Overall bearfags on suicide watch.

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>>12336588
Its just That bullish

>> No.12336610

the other thread was made 50 second sooner >>12336538

as of article 3 sub section 16 of the Geneva convention, we have to use the quickest made thread >>12336538

>> No.12336611

Here comes Powell

>> No.12336615

>>12336597
>https://www.marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendars/economic
thanks

>> No.12336629

FED about to cuck us?

>> No.12336636

Damn it Powell, don't screw this up

>> No.12336638

>>12336610
doesn't matter when it gets mad it's which one gets liked first that counts

>> No.12336639
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We are back!

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>>12336610
maybe if buttgore had a quicker clicking finger

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>>12336610
>he doesnt know the power of perfect split thread days

never going to make it famalam

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>>12336611
Oh lawd he comin

>> No.12336652

>>12336610
on certain days when the high IQ posters are in /smg/ it requires two threads

>> No.12336663
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>>12336610
>caring about Geneva

>> No.12336668
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imagine being a bear

>> No.12336672

>>12336642
based Sentry

>> No.12336673
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MY BONDS
MY GOLD
MY VOO

>> No.12336681

What’s the Irish kike nigger saying?

>> No.12336683

Welp, looks like Powell is redeeming himself for being an out of touch boomer

>> No.12336685

guys, there's 4 outcomes:
Powell raises the rate:
The market go bullish because this indicate that there's nothing wrong with the economy, and recession is already priced in.
The market go bearish because this indicate that Fed won't be able to buy up our bags anymore.
Powell decreases the rate:
This is bullish because Fed will keep buying our bags.
This is bearish because the economy is totally fucked and we're going to experience a hyperinflation.

What do you guys think?

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>implying the jobs report told us anything we didn't already know
>implying this doesn't support the Fed's rate hikes
>implying any of the fundamentals driving the trend of decline have changed

The market is full of fools that deserve to have their money taken from them

>> No.12336692

>>12336681
he's saying he's worried about China issues spilling over and that the fed will be patient with incoming data. Market likes it

>> No.12336694

Hi I'm Jay Powell,

We have decided to let more data come in before making any decisions regarding adjusting the rate. Also we will be confiscating all gold to bring back the gold standard.

>> No.12336695

>>12336685
what happens if they don't change the rate?

>> No.12336697

BASED MICK

>> No.12336699
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there's going to be a recession 4chan told me so
the economy is a ponzi scheme
fuck boomers
fuck people
fuck you jessica from high school why did you fucking friendzone me i would have done anything for you

>> No.12336705

>>12336694
Goldbugs should be jailed, not for holding gold but for being too retarded for the general population

>> No.12336708

>>12336688
>Implying Bonds werent severely overpriced for the upcoming hikes

all money goes back to the SPX buddo

>> No.12336710
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Bears KYS

>> No.12336712

>>12336705
Goldbugs AND cryptofags

>> No.12336718

>>12336569
audible kek, thanks.

>> No.12336721

>>12336712
there's a lot of crossover

>> No.12336725

>>12336692
Fuck the chinks this guy is a total cunt

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>>12336710
>tfw /smg/ unironically shorted the bottom

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>>12336726

>> No.12336733

>phillips curve
just shut up boomer woman

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>McDonalds up 1.9%
This can't be happening

>> No.12336744

Metals, stocks, and crypto are all mooning. The problem is that we literally have too much money and we need to put them somewhere. So, I think that investing assets based on their marketability to the masses is the ideal strategy right now.

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>>12336741

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>>12336708
>>12336688
>implying he knows anything about bonds

you have to be a retard to still be a bear at this point

>> No.12336753

this shit is more rigged than boxing

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>>12336672
he really is best hero

more powerful than 10,000 exploding suns

and unironically the only one who can defeat sentry is sentry

they really need more Sentry storylines, even if its hard to write him good
the screenshots alone are worth it


>>12336694
golden standard is terrible, if you really want to be full retarded, it should be some composite material (something that has to be processed and made by man), not a rare element that has so much industrial potential (but is held back from basement prepper retards)

>>12336741
MCD thrives in recession

just like based WM

they only go up, in both bull and bear markets

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>>12336731
Kek

>> No.12336782

Noooo sqqq crashing

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Imagine being so retarded that you kept puts overnight from yesterday because you thought the FED would tank the market.

Imagine the market going green on open and you wait around for the FED and then he fucks you in the ass.

Imagine bearfags on suicide watch. Might as well KYS.

>> No.12336803

Do the right thing Powell and just say a rate cut is on the table, really fuck the bears hard for all the bullshit FUD of the past 3 months

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>>12336773
based Texanon

>>12336782
SQQQ crashes 3 times a week

thats when you buy cheapies, not sell losses

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>>12336782
>MFW watching the 20$ calls I sold for 100$ crash to 30$
Still gonna hold the share though.

>> No.12336823
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the market will continue to fall. Before the beginning of the decline in october, the market was overvalued from GDP at the peak by 46%. This is comparable to the tech bubble peak of 48% overvaluation as well.
https://www.gurufocus.com/stock-market-valuations.php

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ETERNAL BULL!!!!

>> No.12336869

>>12336823
the S&P 500 p/e ratio during the tech bubble was like 45. right now its like 15. this is not the same thing.

>> No.12336872

>>12336823
GPD doesnt mean shit
We had higher dow gdp ratio in the 1950s for about 10 years before it fell

>> No.12336885

>>12336869
Market is the cheapest it's been in like 20 years

Some stuff, like financials and industrials, are basically trading like this is a great depression

insanity

>> No.12336899

>>12336835
NONONO
GO DOWN

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>Dat tightening range

whats next, big pump, or big dump?

>last chance for cheapies, or last chance to play "catch the falling knife"
the dividends are delicious either way

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>>12336869
Nope, look up the shiller CAPE. It was over 30 in sept, before beginning of plunge in october. over 30 implies overvaluation.

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.12336933

>>12336920
CAPE schiller is a meme

>> No.12336938

>>12336920
also notice it was over 30 in 1929 and 2000.
https://www.gurufocus.com/shiller-PE.php

>> No.12336941

Think it is too late to get in on an oil ETF? Thinking of putting some money on a 3x

>> No.12336955
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>>12336933
Schiller COPE

>> No.12336957

>>12336920
Shiller ratio has been telling people that stocks were overvalued for like a century bro. Thats not how to gauge the markets

>> No.12336971

What do I buy for quick daytrade gains atm?
Everything is too green for my taste and market has already played the good news. Anything else positive coming up?

>> No.12336985

>>12336971
brexit :^)

>> No.12336991

>>12336971
just buy spy or qqq and ride this until spy 3000. if you're too autistic to buy the index that everyone else are buying, then buy emerging market memes and sleep in the night knowing that you bought "valuable" etfs.

>> No.12336996

Give me your honest opinion on Facebook stock pls

165 dollars average

>> No.12336998

>>12336971
can't help you bro, I don't daytrade

seems like a bad entry chasing, imo

>> No.12337005

>>12336996
rip

>> No.12337016

>>12336957
I would argue that shiller + buffett ratio is a pretty good set of tools to tell roughly where total equity valuations stand.

>> No.12337023

Can anyone tell me what the reason for Powells Speech today is? Will he announce a higher/lower interest rate? Or just some talking?

>> No.12337033
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>>12336941
just buy a bunch of WTI, and hold for a few years

OHI if you really need a ETF though (although it almost looks like ohio, so i'd avoid it)

you should have bought a 3x oil ETF 1.5 hours ago if you really wanted to daytrade it

>>12336971
VIIX or TVIX at the bottom
>they can go up if we bull, and they can go up if we bear

>>12336998
if you havnt bought in by 9:01am then you wont be able to daytrade well anyways

exception: afternoon FED meetings (watch the market go from +5% to -10% in the span of 3 minutes)

daytraders only trade from 9:30 to 10:30, then 3:30-4:00

>> No.12337036

>>12337016
I'd aruge that like 80% of the market is severely undervalued, while the popular tech names of the past couple of years are way overvalued

maybe this divergence clears itself moving forward

>> No.12337038

>>12337023
to send a message to the market that yellen and bernanke knows where he lives and they'll beat the shit outta him if he's not dovish enough

>> No.12337039

>>12337016
its terrible to use that to predict reversals. 'overvalued stocks' tend to continue going up. Since the sp500 average EPS has been in such a fierce uptrend since the tax cuts, its only natural the p/e is on the high side. Its not a bearish indicator

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To the anon that said MNGA was going to moon
FUCK YOU!
I'm done
never posting here again
Just sold all of my shares, you guys are fucking retarded assholes!

>> No.12337058
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>Powell as he woke up today

>> No.12337059

>>12336629
yeah they did it last time. they trap everyone like this and then the market crash.

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>>12337036
>>12337036
yep, you can sorta see that play out when looking at the steady eddy SPLV (low vol S&P500 companies) vs the Chad SPHB (high beta index).

https://stockcharts.com/freecharts/perf.php?splv,sphb

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>>12337036
Yeah people are getting irrationally scared about worldwide growth, with a particular focus on China. As long as they keep their people in check, China should keep growing for the coming future. AAPL also looks undervalued, pic related.

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>>12337056

>> No.12337092

>>12337056
>listening to these faggots shilling penny stocks
what a fucking idiot, 0 compassion.

>> No.12337093

>>12337039
yeah I know what you're saying, it's like the Keynes quote "The market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent.". Thanks for the advice

>> No.12337105

>>12337092
my wife just threatened me!
this isn't a fucking game! this is my life!
im done here! fuck you all!

>> No.12337111

>>12337005
Would you sell or keep on hodling

>> No.12337112

>>12337056
if you want to mess around with bullshit scam penny stocks, it should be like 1% of your total capital

>> No.12337116

muh waaamminz

>> No.12337123

wew lads, we've got a runner

F to all our bear friends

>> No.12337124

Oh boy, here we go.

>muh wymens and minoruhtees

>> No.12337128

Dow up 2000 today

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>>12337056

>> No.12337130
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>>12337105
>>this isn't a fucking game! this is my life!

whos fault is that?

>> No.12337136

>>12337058
>implying Powell didn't expect this
Delusional

>> No.12337139

Today will go down in history as the biggest single day SPY point gain. SPY 300 by Q1.

>> No.12337142

>>12337111
pretty obvious that you're not happy about the position, so maybe sell half and buy something else with it. that way you dont hate yourself when it goes back up, and you'll be glad you diversified if it stays out. buy some apple or google or just an index.

>> No.12337151

>>12337142
*if it stays down, rather

>> No.12337160

Quick question: is Powell allowed to own stocks/options? Can't he become a trillionaire with how much power he has over markets? How is that not rigged?

>> No.12337162

my mother fucking TLT put position isn't filling. fucking cock suckers.

>> No.12337167

Now let's complete the Bog wave down and finish -4% across the market to make sure no one wins

>> No.12337174

Wew finally Net profitable on GIS and BTI

>> No.12337182

all my cheapies are becoming less cheapie

>> No.12337185

>>12337160
nah just like trump he has to put his stuff in a blind trust for ethical reasons im sure.

>> No.12337188

Why can't the s&p get over 2520 bros?

>> No.12337194

>>12337160
i would assume he can with insider trading restrictions like all public companies have.

what's probably easiest is just putting his money in a trust to be taken care of while he is Chairman of the Fed

>> No.12337195

>>12337182

NBR, get on it.

>> No.12337197

>>12337188
it's at 2525 bro

>> No.12337209

>>12337197
xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

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He didn't buy AMD ahead of CES

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Boing boing, large bouncies happen in bear territory. Don't makeout with this fakeout!

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>>12337182
That sucks, when your cheapies stop being cheapies you have to kick them out of the nest and find new cheapies.

>> No.12337230
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heading straight to 2600 boys

>> No.12337237

>>12337160
the jewish elite don't care about markets, options stocks or bonds

this system was created by them for us goyim to play in

>> No.12337243

>>12337237
I'm thankful then, very entertaining games

>> No.12337263

>>12337223
strangle? or did you bet on the bounce?

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Drop incoming? Surely no one forgot about yesterday already.

>> No.12337300

Also, fuck RH for only allowing $1000 a week in instant deposits

>> No.12337301

I'm up around 1.5% in the past 24 hours and that should be concerning to the rest of you. My portfolio is never this volatile it's mostly bonds and defensive stocks. And the stock gains are usually canceled out by my small inverse ETF position.

My bet was on inflation and collapse, so take that however you will.

>> No.12337303

>>12337265
>ONE company misses its guidance
this means the ENTIRE economy has to tank! fuck, the bears are so retarded.

>> No.12337311

>>12337263
I'm not sure, I just bought the cheapies, sold my cheapies for new cheapies.

>> No.12337329

>>12337301
have you had enough gay sex today?

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>>12337056

>> No.12337334

>>12337301
i can't tell if you're long-con larping this commie bs or you actually want the world to go to shit and everyone be poor

>> No.12337337

Got in GE at $7.25 and it is the only thing red in my portfolio

>> No.12337361

>>12337301
bonds are getting murdered you larping faggot you. Look at the what's going on with these yields.

>> No.12337396

>>12337142
I know I have to sell Facebook but fuck I don't want to book the loses

Facebook is still growing in Asia and Instagram as well in Europe but I don't know about Facebook itself

Atm it's only a 200 bucks a month I put it to cost average down

>> No.12337409

the best thing about days like this is to check my mutual fund the next morning to see the gains

>> No.12337413

>>12337301
Im a fuckin brainlet, can you explain this a bit more?

>> No.12337441

>>12337329
No, not nearly enough.

>>12337334
I don't want the world to go to shit, I think it will, however. I'm on the side of economic development, I just happen to think that will lead us to socialism. if it doesn't, then I'll be on the side of what actually existing development comes to. Otherwise, politically, I just favor universal government programs.

>>12337361
Prices are inverse to yields Baggie, if yields are getting murdered it means the prices of my bond mutual funds are going through the roof.

>> No.12337444

>>12337441
yields are going up dip shit

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>>12337441
What bond fund are you holding that's actually green?

>> No.12337527

>>12337479
lol maybe he in Junk bonds.
But not really because Corporate debt is commie poison

>> No.12337539

Holy fuck

My sqqq crashed to the bottom

REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.12337546
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>>12337444
Mutual fund pricing lags a day and yields went down big time yesterday due to the lower manufacturing data, but regardless, half of my bonds are in TIPS, chances are we'll see inflation before the Fed can quash it. This unique combination, of tighter labor markets with otherwise signs of weakness, is exactly what I was expecting.

>>12337479
pic related. These guys usually only move by .01 or .02 a day.

>> No.12337557

>>12337301
>My bet was on inflation and collapse, so take that however you will.

1/3 CHF
1/3 CNY
2/9 GLD
1/9 BTC

is optimal for that.

>> No.12337567

market manipulation

>> No.12337582
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>Need msft to go up 9% in the next two weeks

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>>12337567
Stay mad faggot

>> No.12337617

>>12337413
What are you having trouble with anon?

>>12337557
>CHF
Maybe but I'm unfamiliar with Forex investing.

>CNY
A big part of this is trade war risk, and China is due for their first recession as an industrialized country.

>GLD
I'll probably buy silver instead, it's more undervalued, but who knows.

>BTC
Maybe like .001% of my portfolio lol.

I'm expecting a market crash and recession, not necessarily SHTF kind of scenario, so I need fixed income assets.

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>all these big green wangers wiping out yesterday's losses

>> No.12337636

CHAIR MAN GOOD?

>> No.12337666
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Noooo this can't be happening

>> No.12337685

>>12337546
thats because the fucking huge sell off went into bonds surpressing the yields because of the increased demand for the safety net. You're literally all doom and gloom because of yesterday's news. I'm telling you the golden bull was born this morning. 40 more years of gains.

>> No.12337698

>>12337617
Well, "collapse" is a strong word.

>> No.12337706

>>12337685
Capped, see you next week

>> No.12337715

>>12337685
My defensive stocks are still beating the market, but I suppose we'll just have to see what happens.

>>12337698
I should have chosen more carefully.

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Hopefully I can save face today
I was humiliated earlier today and nearly laughed out of /smg/
Time to redeem myself!

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>>12337685
I come in here to read post like this

>> No.12337753

Considering selling my AMD calls 1/25 $18.63 for a nice profit. Thoughts?

>> No.12337765

Well, it's been fun but you can't sell on the weekend.
So better sell now

Before ya'all get raped

>> No.12337771

>>12337753
Maybe you should hold on a bit more? There's a conference coming up in a few days where AMD is going to announce their next gen products.

>> No.12337779

>>12337753
what are you trying to do guy?
are you mocking me?

>> No.12337781

>>12337771
So they're going to announce Intel's last gen products?

>> No.12337789

>>12336751
>bonds
>in /smg/

>> No.12337796

He FOMO'd in

>> No.12337803

Can anyone answer me??

>>12337762

>> No.12337804

>>12337771
I was thinking of holding and selling on the day before or day of the CES.

>>12337779
No, i didn't see your post until now. I bought AMD stock and calls this morning.

>> No.12337833

i have $21 1/18 amd calls pls buy

>> No.12337837
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Are you buying anons?
The recession is over anons.... everything is ok now.
Bears BTFO!
I'm sure when Jerome and the rest of the Fed governors see this pump they'll be ok with it. In fact they'll be so happy for the gainz they'll call off the rest of the rate hikes this year.
Happy days are here again!

>> No.12337846

I got $311 in buying power. What do?

>> No.12337864

>>12337846
hookers and blow

>> No.12337866
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>>12337846
Short Bonds

>> No.12337873

>>12337846
buy MNGA
they are having a presentation in dubai and will moon

>> No.12337878

>>12337846
buy $310 of coke and have a party

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>>12337846
send me some

or buy some LMT

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>>12337846
Buy me lunch

>> No.12337888

>>12337804
>buy the rumor, sell the news
now you're getting it

>> No.12337915

Hey /smg/ whats my favorite band?

A: Green Day :^)

>> No.12337920

>>12337873
>>12337056

KEK read below
>>12337846

>> No.12337936

>>12337864
I don't do hookers and blow.

>>12337873
fuck that

>>12337866
ok now 20% has been allocated to shorting bonds.

Still have like $180, I have nothing in volatility. If I get VXX puts, and they do their pay out, at the end of the funds life. Do I get the whole put payout at expiration since the fund is worth 0?

>> No.12337947

>>12337936
buy coke

KO stock.

>> No.12337981

>>12337947
Not enough risk...

>> No.12337986

>>12337846
If you are looking for something that could pump hard I would say NVAX. Check into yourself and make a decision on that. Lots of good news. Volume is more than usual for today as well.

>> No.12337991

>>12337936
dont short vxx is too sketchy right now, Power hour during shitpost day often leads to bank pump and dump, but it didnt dump after so idk

>> No.12338000

>>12337846
Take a gamble on SN

>> No.12338001

Should i buy these TVIX cheapies guys?

>> No.12338005

>>12337991
i dunno I guess I'll keep some dry powder to pump some positions near close.

>> No.12338006

>>12337981
>>12338000
short LCI

>> No.12338023

>>12337981
Well if you're convinced everything I think is wrong, invest in CARZ etf.

>> No.12338031

>>12336695
more green candles for a bit

>> No.12338036

>>12337803
People still try to Get a peice of the pie to the crypto bubble , but we already ate the pie and popped hte bubble.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUDMy-GplkQ

>>12338005
good idea, you should always have cash in portfolio/account for sudden opportunities

>> No.12338094
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Watch SPX hit 2590-2600 than drop straight to 2k

>> No.12338136

>>12338094
Oh yeah this is definatley a bear market.
for sure, just keep holding on to your puts

>> No.12338138

>>12338094
Zey bought the dip?

>> No.12338146

>>12338138
Hey don't bog me asshole. Fucking run up the price on oil nat gas and gold if you wanna fuck with some one.

>> No.12338149

>>12338094
I bought SQQQ mid run-up today so pretty sure we just keep going up. Maybe I'll sell and the bear will return. Sorry.

>> No.12338162

>>12338136
I closed it at 2400, waiting for re-entry. nothing personal kiddo, i'm here to take money. not to have a emotional connection with stocks that will be worthless soon.

>> No.12338180

>>12338162
why would u sell low and buy high then?

>> No.12338186

Why are there two threads? Why are you all so autistic?

>> No.12338190

>>12338186
high IQ posting you cannot understand

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>>12338180
I'm shorting.

>> No.12338206

>>12338186
I'm a bull in this thread and a bear in the other one

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>>12338186

>> No.12338250

Thinking about buying some calls on chinese companies ahead of the Trump meeting on Monday. If the trade war is ended I expect them to go up a lot.

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frens what does it mean if big pump on low volume

>> No.12338256

>>12338205
you deserve your losses at this point.

>> No.12338265

LCI is on fire these days!
Thanks based LCI guy.

>> No.12338269

TQQQ is litterly oversold right now
Lmfao Oh bears u crazzzzzzzzzzy

>> No.12338275

>>12338252
boomers have taken control

>> No.12338283

>>12338252
Golden bull run for the next 10 years

>> No.12338294

>>12338256
Says the delusional boomer, stay blind kiddo. We're in a bearmarket now

>> No.12338295

w-w-what if the green candle just n-never stops?

>> No.12338304

>>12338295
Don't get irrational. We're still in a bear market.

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Is my math retarded here?

Let's say I buy 100 shares of SQQQ, then sell 50$ calls every month, regardless of strike price. Even if the strike gets called at 50% loss (10$ a share), as long as I have sold calls for 20 months, I would have broke even. In 40 months, I would have made back my initial investment. I could also buy ~25 more shares to limit downside if my 100 shares get called away before the two year mark.

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>>12338294
Bear market for sure

>> No.12338318

Am I safe holding 246 spy puts with expiry Jan 25?

>> No.12338325
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Really makes you think

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>>12338294
>>12338304

>> No.12338351

>>12338265
$20?

>> No.12338356

>>12338325
>the 50 year bubble
okretard.jpg

>> No.12338370

>>12338317
>what is reversion to the mean

>> No.12338385

>>12338356
he doesn't know but this is actually bear trap.

>> No.12338395
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What did they mean by this?

>> No.12338398

This bear market sure is spooky ;)

>> No.12338405
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stock markets: this is all fake bubble and we're all in it to make more money from thin air.

>> No.12338408

>>12338351
Is that your next target?

>> No.12338409

>>12338325
maximum sour grapes lmao stay poor

>> No.12338410

Up 15% today so far

>> No.12338420
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bears in denial and/or on suicide watch

>> No.12338422

Bearcucks on suicide watch

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>>12338408

>> No.12338440

>>12338429
Seriously though, thanks for shilling that stock here, it has been my biggest green recently

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>>12338422
imagine shorting the market after a 20% correction based solely on fear

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>> No.12338448

>>12338405
Stocks are backed up by real cash flow from real companies who are experiencing real growth

>> No.12338459

>>12338448
actual fundamentals are an alien concept to cryptofags

>> No.12338461

>>12338448
yes, but can you explain how it necessarily justify any arbitrary metric for valuation? lately, the growth is far more important than the yield. and, the growth only happens when the fed pump in the magical numbers.

>> No.12338473
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>Derivatives

>> No.12338479

>>12338461
DELET THIS

>> No.12338482

i would get out of oil btw guys. solar panels are actually booming right now. i see them everywhere and they are superior to oil in almost every single way except as an insurance against emp attacks.

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Does anyone know why i have 4 dividends pending since dec 14th? Is this a RH glitch?

>> No.12338491

do I buy this dip?

>> No.12338498
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very easy day

>> No.12338510

Pretty cool SPXL gave out a 3% dividend the other day in one swoop

>> No.12338515

>>12338482
>implying you don't need oil to manufacture solar panels.

look at this brainlet over here.

>> No.12338522

>>12338491
last week was the time to buy

>> No.12338532

>>12338482
petroleum is used in pretty much everything you do every day. it isn't just used for energy...

>> No.12338538
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>>12338482
topkek, solar is terrible for the enviornment to make, and deadly to the local wildlife when installed

Nuclear is the only viable replacement for oil, but its not used because of retarded governments

>> No.12338545

>>12338498
upboated

>> No.12338622

>>12338538
How is it bad for the environment though?
Like I get how some batteries are shitty because of lithium being dirty, but what's wrong with solar panels and the technology in itself?

>> No.12338645

>>12338538
Yeah we should really build more nuclear power plants. We have the means and technology to safely store waste. As technology gets more efficient and evolves we'll be able to utilize the waste and milk it for even more juice, but you get these hippies that act like they know something who have to push for shit and virtue signal like they're saving the world. Like mother fucker let me do what is actually efficient and go hug a tree and smoke fucking pot or something.

>> No.12338651

>>12338498
what was your 2018 P/L (%) ?

>> No.12338656
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JDST?

>> No.12338660

>>12338622
It actually absorbs a lot of light that's supposed to be reflected and raises ambient temperatures and leads to droughts in areas where there's widespread use of the solar panels, but you'll never convince the climate change mother earth fuckers.

>> No.12338664

>>12338538
>>12338645
Thorium molten salt reactors are the future. China is building them, they produce valuable byproducts and cannot melt down because the reactor is already molten.

>> No.12338668

>>12338645
nuclear is the future

>> No.12338688

My dirt cheap AMD calls almost doubled 1 day after buying! Yesterday was really tasty.

>Attention faggots
If you want to make ridiculous dollars, you should trade emini futures over the next 2 weeks.

>> No.12338705
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frens short tsla y/n ?

>> No.12338729

Rising wedge on 30 min breaking to down side

>> No.12338744

So long golden bull run

>> No.12338749

NOOOOOOO MY SPECIAL DAY IS RUINED!!!!!

>> No.12338762
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>>12338749
why do you keep holding these options for so long after you've already made a yuge profit on them, yet sell actual stocks too quickly during a period of downturn

>> No.12338763
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12338763

Hey guys, I’m balls deep in VUZI with a $5.80 average - anybody else?

>> No.12338764

Short
P
Y

Long
C
I

>> No.12338772

>>12338764
Lci finally made a move today

Thoughts on GALT?

>> No.12338779

anyone buying Altria (MO) for sick div and Juul/Weed vice exposure?

>> No.12338788

>>12338762
What are you talking about? I've already turned the memefolio over and am currently holding cheapies. These cheapies are getting kicked out of the portfolio next week so I can find new cheapies.

>> No.12338790

>>12338772
LCI $20

Not enough research into GALT.. i did glance at it.. looks like a lot of conv prefs on the books...

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Hi

>> No.12338832

>>12338790
How long till $20?

>> No.12338846

fuck I regret selling roku at 31. please shorts bring it down again.

>> No.12338853

>>12338824
Trump will help tank this market in a few minutes ;)

>> No.12338868

Trump Press Conference

SELL SELL SELL SELL

>> No.12338880
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>>12338622
>costs more energy to refine and manufacture than it will ever generate in its opperational lifetime
>kills all creatures that fly over it (flashcooking birds before they even hit the ground, not to mention the impact to any flying insects)
>kills all plant life underneath them (so cant be used over farmable land)
and they have efficiencies worse than internal combustion engines, 80% of energy is lost as heat waste (only 75% if you spend twice as much energy to manufacture "efficient" panels)

and thats not even mentioning the scaling problem, you could need to cover entire states with nothing but panels (so no sunlight whatsoever for those areas) and still not generate enough power for industrial use that a couple tiny power plants could make (coal, oil, or nuclear)

thats not even mentioning the local weather fuckups from having a new large thermal hotspot, which would basically cause intense global warming on a local scale (even disregarding the impact on any flying life above them, or plant life below them)

the only good thing about solar is that it can scale down nicely (but it still has shit efficiency) and most of the manufacturing impact is localized in china

the most efficient solar panels can maybe push about 30% efficiency, while a shitty nuclear power plant can top 66-70% energy efficiency easily

>> No.12338884

>>12336699
TRADERS RISE UP

>> No.12338894

>>12338868
it's all gaining

"we've pretty much concluded negotiations with (4 countries here)."

>> No.12338895
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>>12338868
The end of the trade war and China will build the wall for us as a thank you.

>> No.12338897

>>12338868
>>12338853
>he doesnt know that the Trump conference got script got leaked
why do you think we're pumping?

>> No.12338909

THE. PRICE OF YOUR GASOLINE IS .... LOW

THAT'S. LIKE. A TAX CUT FOR PEOPLE

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>>12338651
just started end of december

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Starting to think lci could squeeze today or next week. Impressive runnup the last few days.

>> No.12338954

>>12336601
i wonder if its too late to buy amd. ive got high expectations of their lineup this year, but that doesnt mean their stock couldnt be overvalued, and it may not return to 30 ever

>> No.12338956

>>12336685
Rate won't go down. Only question is if it goes up or stays flat.

>> No.12338963
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Most powerful drug equipment in the world on the border. Short cocaine.

>> No.12338965

>>12338945
I'm starting to hate this rat

>> No.12338966

>>12338954
It will get there if the market does. I'm in AMD because I went down with it. I'll go back up with it.

>> No.12338967

What happens if everyone sells their bags to the Feds? Wouldn't the Feds then end up owning everything?

>> No.12338972
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>>12338622
and a giant flaw with solar panels is that they rely on surface area (exposed to the sun) so if they arnt huge enough to fuck up the local area, they cannot produce meaningful scales of (non-residential) power, ever

even wind can be scaled up without having a linear increase in land area used

solar is nice for small low energy devices, and (sometimes) useful for residential use, but its a shit replacement for power generation

also every single piece of plastic, not to mention basically any clear material that is not glass (and most flame retardant coatings) are all made of refined oil, so we will never be able to stop pumping it for material use, unless you want health, food, and sanitation standards to drop like a rock

>> No.12338981

>>12338909
Thats the best part, I'm a contractor that builds natural gas plants we got like 3 different plant contracts locked down for the upcoming year/s

>> No.12338982

>>12338965
dont be an antisemite.

>> No.12338983
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G..guys, looks like I'm about to become rich. What ETFs would you recommend

>> No.12338987

>>12338967
>implying the fed doesn't already own everything and is just letting you borrow it at interest.

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>>12338963
>Short cocaine.
you mean Snort cocaine?

>> No.12338992

>>12338966
makes sense. hopefully it drops a bit this week so i can buy with my next paycheck and we can ride the 8nm gains train together

>> No.12338993
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DUMP IT ALL

>> No.12338998

>>12338909
my liberal state will use this cheap gasoline as an excuse to raise the tax on it, and when oil starts creeping back up mid spring into summer, well you think they'll cut the taxes?

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Biggest one day point climb in nasdaq history. Steak tonight boys. Also get fucked bears

>> No.12339000

>>12338967
>what if everyone sells

lmao what? 10 years of FED monetary policy has conditioned everyone to keep buying. Selling is a foreign word to these bubble economy boomers.

>> No.12339006

>>12338909
FUCK the people
I work in a refinery and just got my wage frozen

>> No.12339007

>>12338981
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liJS7xsKVz8

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>>12338999

>> No.12339016

>>12337265
All yesterday proved was that apple has no plans for the future. That doesn't mean every company is shit.

>> No.12339029

>>12339006
>being an operator
The fuck are you complaining about you do nothing all fucking day

>> No.12339031

>>12338919
Oh, ok.
Keep up the good work.

>> No.12339036

>>12337361
>bonds are getting murdered
You are supposed to buy actual bonds not bond funds you tard.

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>>12338972
solar panel benefits are that require no electric grid. can be installed at roof (tesla solar roof replaces traditional pricks) for example. so in future closer to equator all energy can be produced with solar power, when panels become more efficient as they constantly do. and in northern and darker areas energy will be produced combination of summer solar + fusion power plants. nuclear plants are fine too, thorium nuclear too

>> No.12339038

Trump press conferences must be extremely cringe to watch when you're inside a huge bank with all your bank buddies.

Can he really name 10 steel manufacturers?

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>>12338983
BASED WARREN

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>>12338967
they can reposes your wealth

take a look at your money, every single coin and bill is technically property of the united states

if shit hits the fan, the FED and IRS can just reposes their property from you

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>>12338999
Heh, Nothin' personnel
*teleports behind bullrun*

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>>12338993
This is so obviously a dead cat bounce.
The exact same thing happened a few weeks ago, and the following Monday was a bloodbath.

If you're not buying SQQQ on the low right now, you're never going to make it.

>> No.12339055

>>12339036
buying bonds in a rising interest rate market? What are you 60 years old?

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>>12339037
>equator all energy can be produced with solar power
as long as the equator has zero factories, so no industrial goods produced

>>12338664
India is working on thorium too, since they have entire beaches loaded with thorium sand, and they stand to become a large supplier if thorium power ever takes off

>> No.12339071

come on tariff man give us cheap stocks again.

>> No.12339073

>>12339048
lmao sqqq is going under 10 soon

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>>12338880
>>the most efficient solar panels can maybe push about 30% efficiency, while a shitty nuclear power plant can top 66-70% energy efficiency easily

You're a fucking retard with no idea what you're talking about.

Experimental solar cells have around 25% efficiency, consumer grade solar cells around 17-18% at the moment, maybe 20% if you want to be generous.

Meanwhile, nuclear power plants are around 35% efficiency, give or take a few percent. You need high temperature nuclear power plants for efficiency up to 70% because the Carnot's rule is a bitch.

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>>12336538
>>12336538
>>12336538
NEXT THREAD IS HERE

>> No.12339105

>>12339084
the old is new now

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>>12339074
steam turbines get a sweet ~60%, and nuclear waste heat can be used to keep the initial reaction going, so as long as the reaction is steady the plant nuclear beats solar no contest

the point is nuclear can scale up to efficiencies well over twice as high as any solar panel ever can, not even mentioning the land area costs that cripple meaningful large scale solar power generation